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B
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
monday
22nd
of
november
2021,
the
excel
business
call
before
we
get
started.
The
east
denver
registration
opens
up
in
about
an
hour,
so
go
and
get
registered.
For
you
know
one
of
the
biggest
hackathons
I
think
well
the
biggest
hackathon
in
ethereum,
and
you
know
one
of
the
greatest
events
in
ethereum
yeah.
So
that's
that
I
think
yeah.
It's
gonna
be
open
when
the
when
this
call
ends
on
the
internet.
B
Today
we
have
guys
from
gro
protocol
presenting,
I
think,
they're
already
in
the
chat
under
the
discussions.
We
have
the
initiative.
Dao
idea,
that's
on
the
dow
tag
forum,
a
collaboration
between
xdi
and
steak.
B
Sorry,
a
collaboration
with
with
steak
for
stakedown,
rewards
sorry
not
to
take
that.
But
stake
rewards
on
swapper
treasury
diversification
proposal
that
went
up
also
on
the
forum
or
form
discussion,
the
pocket
network
deal,
and
if
we
have
time
you
know
the
gnosis
chain,
discussion
and
yeah.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
also
time
for
the
dx
ventures,
opportunities
with
double
and
atlantis.
So
that's
that
keenan
to
your
question,
it's
to
hack
in
the
hackathon
so
yeah.
B
So
I
guess
our
the
first
item
is
the
gro
presentation
and
I
think
I
saw
a
few
guys
yeah
joyce
and
chris,
so
yeah
welcome
to
the
dxdow
feel
free
to
take
the
next
15-20
minutes
to
present,
and
you
know,
get
some
discussion
going
and
remember
to
leave
a
few
minutes
at
the
end
for
questions
so
yeah.
The
mic
is
yours:.
C
Let
me
start
off
with
saying
that
I
think
we
have
been
speaking
a
little
bit
more
on
the
discord
and
also
in
dms
and
even
in
person
when
in
lisbon,
but
I
believe
that
most
of
this
group
might
not
have
heard
about
it
yet.
So
let
me
maybe
repeat
some
of
what
you
have
already
known
bear
with
me
for
this.
So
grow
protocol
is
working
on
stable
coin
yield
aggregation,
but
what
it
is
really
is
trying
to
do
beyond
the
technical
terms
is
to
make
define
more
accessible
to
everyone.
C
So
we
are
not
looking
particularly
to
get
a
lot
of
people
understanding
how
d5
works
in
behind
the
scenes,
but
really
to
say
that,
let's
get
into
it,
let's
actually
tap
those
opportunities
with
a
very
simple
and
easy
to
use
product.
So
that's
why
we
have
brought
to
the
world
with
power
stablecoin,
which
is
what
offers
a
deposit
protection
for
people,
users
who
are
looking
for
lower
risk
appetites
and
the
way
that
we
are
doing
the
risk
management
side
of
it
is
through
two
things.
The
first
thing
is
about
diversification.
C
Now
they're
still
bound
to
have
some
risk,
and
for
that,
the
remainder
of
it.
We're
looking
for
the
second
products
that
grow
office
fought
for
it
to
cover
for
power,
and
what
that
essentially
does
is,
instead
of
pursue
purchasing
an
insurance
for
your
investments,
we
are
using
risk
trenching
to
make
sure
that
any
risk
for
power,
stable
coin
users
are
actually
covered
by
faults,
which
means,
let's
say
when
cream
x
was
exploited
and
we
suffered
losses
as
a
protocol.
All
of
that
losses
were
being
bought
by
fault
users
instead
of
powered
users.
C
C
The
fact
that
now
treasuries
could
be
one
really
good
use
case
of
it,
because
no
one
wants
to
lose
that
type
of
funds
you
have
in
the
treasury,
that's
entrusted
to
the
dow,
but
at
the
same
time,
having
the
money
sitting
idle,
it's
okay,
but
then
we
could
do
better
than
that,
which
is
why
we
have
been
working
with
different
treasuries
to
talk
about
power
being
one
way
for
thousands
to
actually
have
make
your
stable
coins
work
harder
and
then
actually
help.
C
So
that
is
what
I
would
like
to
chat
more
with
you
on
how
that
fits
with
dx
dell,
and
particularly,
we
believe
that
dx
dial
has
a
7.4
million
stable
coin
treasury
today
and
having
a
five
percent
yield.
It
would
still
be
good
enough
to
help
actually
cover
the
burn
rate
that
you
have
in
terms
of
hiring
more
developers
or,
in
general,
growing
the
ecosystem.
C
D
Thanks
that
was
really
informative
and,
I
may
say,
you've
you've
prepared
well
for
this
presentation.
Joyce.
Could
you
rewind
back
and
and
give
us
a
walkthrough
of
exactly
what
happened
when
when
the
cream
exploit
happened
and
how
grow
reacted
to
it
as
a
team,
of
course,.
C
C
At
that
point,
we
couldn't
quite
tell
for
sure
if
the
entirety
of
15
was
gone
or
not,
and
because
we
have
not
seen
this
cream
strategy
being
written
down
according
to
the
exact
amount
of
loss,
we
have
to
take
actions
to
write
it
down
ourselves,
so
we
recognize
the
entire
15
was
lost
and
then
allocated
that.
Well,
we
don't
have
to
allocate
that
further,
because
the
aggregate
design
has
already
covered
it.
C
There
was
definitely
first
time
that
we
actually
see
this
in
action
because
so
far
grow
has
launched
publicly
in
mid-august,
and
so
this
is
the
first
protocol
exploits
we
have
seen,
but
because
of
the
way
that
this
products
are
designed,
we
do
see
that
it's
tested,
yes,
vods
does
does
its
job
as
a
protector
or
the
guardian
of
powered,
so
powered
users
were
all
good.
C
Some
extra
steps
that
we
have
took
taken
since
then
is
that
we
are
still
getting
more
information
about
how
exactly
those
losses
were,
and
the
few
compensation
that
came
through
part
one
is
on
for
cream
to
cream,
has
already
sent
us
back
some
cream
tokens
as
part
of
the
compensation
program
that
they
have
shared
on
twitter
and
those
we
have
airdrops
to
all
of
the
impacted
users.
So
I
think
that
probably
is
accounted
for
the
bulk
of
the
compensation.
C
C
So
we
have
also
recovered
about
720
k
us
dollars
from
that
and
those
we
have
also
sent
it
back
to
default
users
through
the,
as
it
is
part
of
the
recovery
through
the
strategies,
and
the
final
part
is
that
we
are
also
going
to
send
out
some
grow
tokens
still
negotiating
or
discussing
the
details
with
community,
because
we
are
seeing
whether
we'll
be
doing
the
grow
token,
as
a
compensation
for
front
or
running.
The
reason
there
was
a
front
running
is
on
the
fault
sign
what
that
means
is.
C
If
the
entire
strategy
has
been
written
down
at
the
instant
that
the
exploit
took
place,
then
there
was
no
front
running,
because
all
the
laws
would
have
been
shared
by
everyone
who
have
money
involved,
but
because
there
was
a
time
delay
between
actually
we
will
there
was
an
exploit
and
then
we
could
take
the
action
to
write
down
the
loss.
That's
why
there
were
some
fault.
C
Users
have
already
left
the
protocol
at
that
point,
and
so
only
the
remaining
false
users
have
taken
slightly
larger
than
slightly
larger
losses
than
they
should
have,
and
that's
the
portion
the
front
running
is
the
portion
that
we
are
using
grow
as
a
compensation
to
the
faults
users.
So
those
are
the
three
parts
that
we
have
come
up
with
together
to
help
compensate
the
losses.
C
It
was
not
going
to
be
a
full
compensation,
I
believe,
because
one
cream
token
has
depreciated
quite
a
lot
in
value
over
the,
since
they
just
announced
the
recovery
program
and
two
also
saying
that
fundamentally,
fourth
row
is
to
protect
powered,
and
it
is
in
fact
that
road
that
has
been
fulfilled.
So
you
could
almost
say
the
loss
itself
is
somewhat
by
design
and
it's
working
or
functioning
exactly
as
it
should
have.
So
that's
why
we
see
some
form
of
compensation
coming
through
from
cream
and
for
us
from
the
front
running
side.
D
And
I'm
wondering
how
could
the
dow
permissionlessly
manage
its
funds?
It
depositing
is
the
no-brainer
how
about
withdrawing?
D
Would
the
dow
rely
on
a
grow
protocol
or
is
there
some
kind
of
a
dashboard
where
the
dao
itself
could
operate
its
funds
and
withdraw
at
any
time
permissionlessly,
and
also
what
is
your
strategy
for
l2
like
what
are
the
networks
you
support
currently.
C
Gotcha,
and
so
where
we
are
getting
at,
I
would
say,
for
the
withdrawal
and
deposits
have
can
be
done,
permissionlessly
through
our
adapt.
Today
we
also
have
chris
online,
and
he
is
our
designer
where
today,
because
today
the
whole
depth
has
been
designed
more
for
a
individual
investor
or
individual
user's
purpose
for
the
treasury,
we
will
be
enhancing
that
so
that
it
would
not
only
give
you
the
functionalities
of
withdrawing
and
then
depositing
at
will,
but
also
to
see
more
of
the
performance
about
a
month
to
month.
C
How
much
of
your
treasury
balance
here
has
increased
in
value?
How
much
of
that
is
coming
through
from
different
sources,
and
then
you
have
in
case
you
would
need
to
produce
certain
reports.
We
could
also
help
support
making
sure
you
have
all
the
transactions
record
and
the
performance
view
as
well
in
terms
of
the
use
strategies
themselves.
The
current
mechanism
is
that
the
team
would
introduce
and
discuss
or
other
downs
can
propose
their
own
use
strategies
for
us
to
use,
and
we
are
now
nailing
down
on.
C
C
Everyone
in
the
protocol
are
using
the
same
strategies
and
but
then,
as
someone
of
a
dow
token
holders,
if
you
would
acquire
grow
tokens,
which
is
the
governance
token,
you
can
then
also
vote
in
future
snapshot
photos
about
which
your
strategies
to
go
for
or
to
not
go
for,
for
example.
So
that's
definitely
some
play
some
way
that
the
dow
can
influence,
but
there
is
no
separate
portfolio
or
separate
pool
of
money
for
the
dow
to
manage
their
own
money
in
them.
C
C
All
right
so
the
second
part
of
the
multi-chain.
We
are
very
excited
to
be
going
on
to
avalanche
soon,
but
then
the
way
that
we
are
doing
that-
and
I
keep
on
saying
soon
it's
really
soon.
I
just
couldn't
quite
tell
you
the
date
yet
because
we
are
working
with
a
partner
on
it,
but
then
the
way
that
we
are
doing
it
is
not
to
incorporate
that
into
our
core
products
already,
because
we
are
looking
at
avalanche
while
it
is
very
and
very
attractive
program
with
rush
and
then
also
with
a
very
user-friendly
interfaces.
C
It's
still
quite
new
and
then
the
strategies
that
we
are
partnering
with
has
a
very
high
apy
but
does
come
with
more
inherence,
but
it
does
come
with
more
inherent
risk.
That's
why
we
are
not
looking
at
integrating
that
yet,
but
having
it
as
a
standalone
strategy
in
what
in
a
place,
we
call
it
labs,
but
left
by
definition,
is
for
experimentation.
C
So
that's
where
we're
getting
at
but
going
forward.
We
are
also
looking
into
how
to
get
our
protocol
more
accessible
by
people
with
smaller
balance,
so
we're
looking
at
one
how
we
can
do
it
more
on
the
l2
side,
this
we
are
working
with
another
partner,
but
we
are
anticipating
that
things
would
happen
before
the
end
of
year.
Again
cannot
announce
the
date
because
they
still,
we
still
haven't
embargoed
under
the
agreement,
but
that
should
be
coming
soon.
C
The
third
part
is
then,
on
time,
in
terms
of
governance,
we
do
hear
a
lot
of
voices
on
participating
in
governance
sometimes
could
be
very
difficult
because
of
the
gas
costs
involved,
and
also
about
like
getting
the
tokens
sticking
them
claiming
them.
It's
all
work,
so
we're
scoping
out
a
few
different
options
on
l2
to
understand.
How
can
we
make
governance
participation
much
more
equal,
let's
say
for
people
with
larger
pockets
and
also
with
smaller
balances
alike.
C
Gnosis
chain
is
not
something
we
are
we
have
looking
to
already.
I
can
bring
it
back
to
the
team,
but
we
do
want.
We
are
working
with
olympus
pro
who
has
a
nosis
safe,
so
we
are
looking
to
see
how
we
can
get
closer
with
gnosis,
because
that's
apparently
a
lot
of
treasuries
are
also
looking
to
actually
working
with
them
in
terms
of
the
how
to
safeguarding
their
their
funds
as
well,
but
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I
couldn't
share
more.
I
really
I'm
really
bursting
with
excitement,
but
then
I
have
to
zip
my
mouth.
C
E
Do
you
mind
if
I
just
elaborate
super
quickly
on
top
of
that?
It's
chris
from
the
grow
team
here
hi
chris,
hey
thanks
for
the
warm
welcome
it's
great
to
be
joining
you
all
here.
So,
as
joyce
mentioned,
I
work
within
our
product
team
and
make
sure
that
the
various
products
that
we're
building
and
dabs
that
we're
building
are
simple
and
easy
to
use
for
individual
users
and
dowels
alike.
E
We're
chatting
with
a
few
dales
at
the
moment
just
to
understand.
You
know
what
are
the
product
needs
and
adapt
needs,
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
cherry
on
top
of
the
the
the
answer
that
joyce
gave
in
that
there's.
This
currently
no
no
locks
whatsoever
for
depositing
or
withdrawing
from
the
protocol.
E
So
it's
very
quick,
easy
and
permissionless
to
deposit
and
remove
funds
and
right
now
the
protocol
supports
usdt,
usdc
and
dye
for
deposits
and
withdrawals,
and
we
also
allow
to
deposit
of
any
amount
of
those
three
at
a
single
time
and
also
at
withdrawal
as
well.
So
you
can
maintain
the
the
same
stablecoin
through
deposit
and
withdrawal
or
you
can
choose
to
have
a
selection
of
those.
E
You
know
based
off
your
treasury
needs,
or
you
know,
given
price
rates
at
any
point
in
time
and
as
far
as
allowing
treasuries
or
treasury
managers
to
track
the
performance
and
funds
within
the
grow
protocol.
App,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
currently
talking
with
various
dows
and
treasury
managers,
to
make
an
experience
that
allows
you
to
quickly
and
easily
track
returns,
historical
returns,
as
well
as
the
current
rate
of
return
or
apys,
and
then
provide
easy
reporting
on
performance
from
the
grid
protocol
as
well.
E
So
we
see
there's
a
couple
of
ways
we
can
help
out
dows
and
just
making
treasury
management
a
bit
easier
now
and
then
we're
also
looking
at
things.
We
can
do
in
the
future
to
make
treasury
management
for
dallas
better.
D
Interesting
thanks
for
the
input
chris,
we
are
pretty
unique
to
defy,
even
though
that
the
term
dao
has
become
pretty
popular
and-
and
there
are
lots
of
those
out
there.
Most
of
those
are
just
daos
in
name
only
and
not
truly
decentralized.
The
way
dxdow
manages
its
treasury
is
completely
trustlessly
and
and
in
a
permissionless
manner,
through
a
multi-coal
scheme
and
every
single
action
goes
through
the
on-chain
governance.
D
So
we
we
do
not
have
funds
managed
by
multi-sigs,
and
I'm
wondering
whether
the
the
current
setup
for
withdrawal
would
allow
for
us
to
use
a
multi-core
scheme
to
call
an
action
and
withdraw
funds
from
a
non-chain
vote.
C
So
right
now
it
would
require.
Is
that
a
smart
con?
So
would
that
be
right
to
say,
then
the
entire
transactions
would
be
done
through
a
smart
contract
itself
right.
I
assume,
if
you.
F
C
Votes
then,
right
now
we
would
need
to
white
list
the
tx
origin
for
the
smart
contract,
but
that
is
something
that
we
can
work
with
to
make
sure
that
we,
once
we
whitelist
the
tx
origin
that
it
could
be,
it
could
be
allowed
the
smart
contract
to
interact
with
ourselves
to
deposit
and
withdraw
where
that
might
in
the
more
longer
run.
We
are
looking
to
remove
our
smart
contract
block.
Actually,
let
me
rewind
a
little
bit.
C
Yes,
we
do
have
a
smart
contract
block
as
part
of
our
design
initially
to
make
sure
of
safety
about
which
wallets
could
could
interact
with
us,
but
then
we
are
because
we
realize
a
lot
of
treasuries
do
have
different
ways,
but
they
have
multi-stake
or
they
have
different
wallets
and
that
is
coming
through
with
a
smart
contract.
So
necessarily,
I
think
we
are
looking
to
remove
that
smart
contract
block
in
order
to
accommodate
more
treasury
clients.
C
So
if
this
is
the
case,
I
could
see
that
the
key
things
might
be
more
on
the
smart
contract
side
that
we
could
do
white
listing
for.
D
Good
and
lastly,
what
are
your
plans
on
decentralization?
What
what
are
your
current
efforts?
How
is
grow
as
a
protocol
envisioning
its
future
as
a
collective.
C
Yep,
I
think
that
going
forward
we
are
looking
to
we
have
been
quite
work,
will
still
be
quite
new.
I
think
we
have
started
ourselves
being
decentralization
in
late
september,
early
october
through
the
token
launch.
So
so
far
we
have
about
a
thousand
and
nine
hundred
token
holders
and
a
lot
of
the
people
that
we
have
interacted
with
they're
interested
in
the
dow.
But
then
sometimes
we
still
need
to
do
a
lot
more
in
encouraging
people
to
go
vote.
C
We
are
working
on
that
path
and
hopefully,
through
a
combination
of
a
more
active
use
of
our
community
forum,
snapshots
votes,
we're
using
a
snapshot,
photos
right
now
and
then
being
going
to
make
sure
we
have
a
snapshot
first
with
on
chain
execution,
so
anything
that
the
snapshot
folds
decides
on.
If
it
has
an
on
chain
multi,
it
has
an
on
chain
execution
components
to
it.
C
Then
it
just
gets
implemented
directly,
so
it's
not
like
there
is
someone
that
needs
to
execute
on
it
per
se,
but
then,
on
the
other
side,
speaking
back
to
the
community,
I
think
we're
still
working
on.
How
do
we
set
up
frameworks
to
say
why
do
we
believe
that
certain
things
should
go
ahead
and
certain
things
do
not
and
having
this
framework
to
be
approved
by
the
community
so,
for
example,
thinking
about
back,
then
you
know
with
cream
exploit
right
we're
talking
about
well.
C
Why
should
we
have
invested
in
put
our
money
in
cream,
or
should
we
not-
and
we
realized
that,
because
of
how
early
stage
our
protocol
was?
A
lot
of
these
decisions
have
been
taken
through
discussion
basis,
but
not
necessarily
through
a
framework
that
the
dao
itself
has
already
thought
through
and
then
debated
about.
C
So
that
is
something
we
are
looking
to
change
by
setting
up
those
framework
throwing
out
what
we
believe
might
be
a
good
proposal,
but
then
having
the
dow
to
provide
inputs
on
community
forum
and
then
eventually
vote
for
it,
I
would
say
a
more
living
and
breathing
example.
Right
now
is
our
revised
tokenomics.
C
C
So
two
things
that
we
are
thinking
of
one
thing
we're
working
on
already
is
a
decentralized
marketing
team.
So,
instead
of
us,
the
core
team,
so
to
speak,
dictating
how
we
do
marketing
or
how
we
don't
do
marketing.
We
are
now
having
a
incentive
system
created.
So
then,
each
two
weeks
or
three
weeks
we
have
20
people
from
the
community
to
become
our
marketing
ambassadors.
C
Maybe
it
works
for
the
marketing
the
model
at
this
rate,
but
then,
for
example,
on
the
developer
side.
Is
that
setting
up
a
grants
or
is
there
something
a
bit
more
directed
telling
people
how
we
want
their
efforts
to
be
spent
would
be
the
best
way,
so
we're
still
in
the
exploring
side,
but
we're
definitely
going
getting
more
and
more
decentralized
in
terms
of
one.
The
overall
decisions
made
at
a
high
level
and
two
in
the
execution
level
as
well.
D
That's
really
interesting
to
hear
I'm
I'm.
I
feel
optimistic
that
we
might
have
something
to
offer
you
guys
that
there's
a
really
interesting
tech
being
built
in
gx
now
at
the
moment
that
the
industry
hasn't
caught
wind
of
yet
the
forecast
foundation
of
august
protocol
reached
out
to
us
and
they
wanted
to
decentralize
and
form
adele,
we'll
be
leveraging
technology
built
by
gx
dal.
D
C
G
D
B
Like
yeah,
we
can
dave
said
like
every
time
I
came
up
with
a
question
we
kind
of
already
sort
of
said
it.
I
will
say
that
I
think
you
guys
are
already
in
touch
with
dave.
So
dave
is
leading
sort
of
the
treasury
diversification
efforts
it
takes
now
and
then,
as
I
think
nathan
mentioned
here
before,
like
the
decisions
are
being
done
on
chain
with
like
a
dow
proposal.
In
this
case
we
will
have.
B
B
About
that-
and
we
have
some
people
here
from
that
team,
but
basically
deep
style
is
using
the
daostack
governance
platform
and
we
are
now
upgrading
it
for
our
own
use.
And
then
it's
been
getting
some
traction
from
several
other
communities
in
daos
and
we
believe,
like
this
is
a
better
governance
system,
a
better
scalable
like
more
long
term.
But
you
know
this
is
kind
of
for
another
topic
and
then
enjoy
saying
I'm
assuming
you
guys
are
already
in
touch
with
dave
right.
C
B
Yeah,
so
I
I
mean
I
would
say
here
I
mean
we
usually
what
we
do
is
we
also
open
like
a
telegram
group,
that's
shared
between
the
teams
and
then
and
then
yeah.
We
need
to
figure
out
like
what
are
the
like
if
it
makes
sense
for
the
style,
what
are
the
like
engagement
parameters
to
begin
with
and
yeah?
I
guess
test
it
out
if
it
makes
sense.
C
That
sounds
great.
We
now
have
a
I
yeah.
We
now
have
a
post
up
on
the
dx
style,
the
downtalk.oh
yeah.
B
C
So
I
think
like
it
depends
on
whether
you
see
that
might
be
a
good
first
step,
and
then
we
can
start
also
the
telegram
group
to
chat
more
about
the
details
of
it
potentially
in
terms
of
what
exactly,
how
the
execution
side
or
how
do
you
think
about
the
allocation
side?
What
amount,
what
make
for
what
makes
sense
for
you
guys
and
whatnot
so
then
like
we
can
see
how
to
take
the
conversation
forward.
C
B
B
Yeah
so
feel
free
to
stick
around.
We
have
a
few
more
topics
that
we're
going
to
talk
about,
so
I
think
the
first
one.
The
next
topic
is
the
initiative,
though
there's
a
post
in
the
forum
by
sky
and
a
couple
of
people
have
already
sort
of
commented
and
yeah
like.
Let
me
paste
this
in
the
chat
now
yeah.
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
versions
of
a
similar
idea
and
I
don't
know:
does
anyone
have
any
feedback
about
this?
What
they
think?
B
Where
should
we
should
proceed?
How
should
we
proceed
et
cetera.
F
So
really
cool
joyce
you
just
mentioned
g-force
and
g-force
is
actually
very
similar
to
initiative.
F
Dao,
it's
we
don't
have
it
established
yet,
but
it's
an
idea
that
we've
been
kind
of
throwing
around
and
it's
a
way
for
you
know
to
to
to
let
the
community-
and
maybe
you
know
certain
experts
in
the
community,
and
these
could
be
people
that
are
part
of
the
community
or
people
that
bring
new
ideas
from
outside
the
community,
but
really
to
like,
rather
than
you
know,
have
your
internal
marketing
department
like
decide
everything
and
which
tends
to
not
take
major
risk
and
like
stays,
usually
in
like
inbounds
and
stuff
to
like,
have
some
system
in
place
that
lets
like
a
more
organic
community,
explore
new
ideas
or
like
crazy.
F
You
know
innovative
things
that
that
maybe
it
would
be
tricky
to
like
pass
that
through,
like
the
normal
or
you
know,
to
pass
it
through
the
normal
governance
process
to
like
ask
for
a
certain
amount
of
small
money
just
to
like
try.
Some
new
idea
is
like
these
ideas
tend
to
not
happen
because
of
that,
and
so
with
initiative
down
having
like
a
system
in
place.
F
That
makes
it
easy
for
potentially
anyone
that
has
a
new
idea
or
maybe
a
subset
of
people
that
have
like
are
are
participating
in
this
initiative
to
basically
have
like
the
freedom
to
go
out
and
really
try
new
ideas
and
new
things,
and
then
report
back
and
then
have
the
community
as
a
as
a
as
a
whole,
like
kind
of
vote
or
decide
on
what,
like,
which
ones
were,
which
things
worked
and
which
things
didn't
work.
F
And
then,
ideally,
you
you
take
the
ones
that
did
work
or
the
people
that
found
ideas
that
did
work
and
you
re-up
with
those
people
or
those
ideas.
And
then
you
try
to
like
bring
in
an
initial
additional
new
people.
And
so
it's
interesting
to
is
there
a
choice?
Is
there
a
post
about
your
g-force
like
program
that
we
could
read
to.
C
F
C
A
good
way
to
just
kick
start.
Some
of
those
you
know
share
some
of
that
experience.
We're
also
running
our
first
first
epoch.
We
caught
every
two
to
three
weeks
that
as
an
epoch
right
now,
so
it's
in
the.
If
you
give
us
another
week
or
so,
we
can
share
more
of
how
exactly
one
whole
epoch
looks
like
too.
F
That's
awesome.
We
we
also
have
epochs
for
swapper
token
farming,
so
lots
of
doubt
lots
of
dowsing
communities
are
doing
very
similar
things.
That's
why
it's
great
to
like
do
cross,
collab
and
and
talk
with
each
other
and
so
yeah
back
to
the
overall.
What
elon
had
mentioned
in
the
beginning,
I
laid
out
like
a
framework
that,
like
kind
of
makes
it
a
competition,
and
I
don't
know
like
we
need
to
figure
out
how
many
people
are
interested
in
in
partaking
in
something
like
this.
F
If
there's
only
like
five
people
that
want
to
do
it,
then
this
would
probably
work
if
there's
50
people
that
would
want
to
partic
participate
in
something
like
this.
Then
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
narrow
that
down
or
or
select
the
people
or
to
select
the
ideas
and
then
there's
other
ways
to
do
it,
where
you
could
actually
have
kind
of
a
a
quick,
acting,
maybe
multi-sig
as
the
initiative
dow,
and
then
anyone
from
the
community
could
propose
a
very
simple,
quick
proposal
to
that.
F
To
that
that
smaller
group
and
then
that
group
could
fund
that
idea
and
so
one's
like
kind
of
a
competition
one's
kind
of
more
open.
The
key
would
be
to
outline
like
what
are
the
like.
F
You
know
the
progress,
so
any
idea
we
would
want
to
have
a
summary
of
what
that
idea
led
to
and
whether
you
know
what
the
results
were
and
then
then
that
would
be
easier
for
the
community
to
evaluate
that
idea,
and
so
we
would
also
do
this
in,
like
epochs
of
like
a
month,
long
or
two
months,
long
and
see
how
it
goes
and
then
evaluate
the
overall
program
at
the
end
of
the
two
months
or
one
month,.
D
Yeah
and
I
believe
the
best
way
to
quickly
move
this
forward
because
it
will
be
beneficial
for
a
marketing
effort.
If
anyone
has
any
comments,
any
additional
ideas,
any
commentaries
welcome,
because
if
no
one
does
that
would
pretty
much
mean
we
should
go
ahead
with
it
and
and
if
no
one
speaks
up
now,
I
don't
see
why
anyone
would
you
know
chime
in
later
like
if,
if
anyone
has
any
objections,
now
is
the
time,
because
if
no
one
speaks
up,
why
not
go
ahead
with
it?.
F
Oh
yeah,
just
one
additional
thing,
so
this
this
is
a
good
framework
for
like
marketing
and
I
think,
that's
kind
of
what
g
g
force
is
doing
too
doing
doing
two.
But
this
actual
framework
of
like
spending
quick
money
on
new
ideas
to
bring
value
to
dx
thousand
ecosystem
is
like
way
bigger
than
just
marketing
like.
F
If
someone
thinks
that
they
could
spend
a
hund,
you
know
500
hiring,
like
you
know,
a
hacker
student
to
make
a
a
dashboard
for
a
new
product
and
they
could
go
out
and
find
that
person,
because
we
talked
about
doing
this
as
like
a
bounty
like
a
bounty
board
system.
But
it's
one
thing
to
have
bounty
boards
where
people
have
to
come
and
look
at
a
menu
and
then
choose
versus
someone
here
feels
like
if
I
can
get
this
built.
F
If
I
can
go
find
someone
that
can
go
build
this
thing,
I
think
that's
going
to
bring
a
lot
of
value
to
dxdow,
and
so
it's
we
could
think
of
this
as
like
way
bigger
than
just
marketing
or
just
hacking
or
just
business
development
or
just
one
thing.
But
you
could
actually
apply
this
to
almost
anything
that
you
think
could
bring
value
to
dx
dial,
yeah
community
management
or
anything
basically.
B
Yeah,
I
I
I
want
to
say
that
you
know
obviously,
like
I
think
generally
people
are
in
support
of
this.
I
mean
like
why
not
it's
a
decent
experiment.
It
doesn't
cost
much
money.
I
will
say
that
there
are
a
couple
of
versions
of
like
how
to
conduct
this
experiment
and
how
to
do
it,
and
I
don't
know
I
like
I
outlined
one
version
which
I
think
could
be
like
a
like
a
very
easy
mvp
for
this
whole
thing
to
kind
of
like
test
it
out,
but
yeah
I
mean.
B
F
It's
holiday
as
well
getting
a
little
more
feedback
on
whether
people
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
rep
at
stake
right,
and
so
there
is
always
a
concern
where,
if
we
just
give
out,
you
know
500
000
bucks
to
like
a
bunch
of
people
who
say
they're
gonna
go
do
something
in
the
community
and
then
they
just
disappear
with
the
money.
Right
like
that's
a
problem
right
and
so
one
immediate
way
to
protect.
F
I
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about
and
and
yeah,
so
rep
at
risk
is
like
a
way
to
easily
protect
against
that,
like
I
don't
think
anyone's
gonna
walk
away
with
money
just
to
put
in
their
pocket
and
and
have
the
chance
of
their
reputation
being
slashed.
F
Or
you
know
you
know
actually
not
just
their
on-chain
reputation
but
like
as
a
person
unless
you're
anonymous
your
actual
personal
reputation
as
a
as
a
person
is
also
at
stake
right,
but
at
the
same
time
the
whole
point
of
this
program,
as
nylon
has
pointed
out,
is
that
it's
okay
to
take
risks.
If
we
spend
some
money
on
some
things
and
they
don't
actually
work
out
that
well
or
they
don't
contribute
that
much
value.
F
That's
okay!
That's
part
of
the
learning
experience,
and
so
that
is
important
to
understand
that
that
is
also
okay,
yes,
but
we
don't
want
people
asking
for
money
and
then
going
and
not
actually
trying
to
use
the
money
for
the
benefit
of
dx,
dao
and
and
walking
away
with
it.
That's
a
that
would
be
a
big
problem,
so.
F
I
think
so,
and
maybe
we
should
have
a
few
bullet
points
like
like
the
the
manifesto
of
initiative
dow
just
to
make
it
very
clear
that
that's
the
case
so
that
no
one
says
I
didn't
know
that
yeah.
H
H
B
D
Yeah
my
comment
earlier
was,
like
you
know:
sky
gave
an
example
with
like
500
000.
The
pilot
will
just
be
with
like
5
000.
You
know
five
people
getting
1k
each
or
2k,
so
you
know
there
won't
be
much
at
stake
and
those
will
be
trusted.
D
Then
they
would
be
a
subject
to
reputation,
slash
but
of
course,
that's
again
raising
the
question:
are
we
putting
a
price
on
reputation
and
it
has
to
be
thought
out.
B
No,
I
I
disagree
actually
and
I
think,
like
we're,
trying
to
eliminate
bureaucracy.
We
want
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
to
receive
money
for
a
certain
initiative
that
you
want
to
do.
If
you're
a
rep
holder,
then
you
can
request
and
I
think
people
sort
of
like
trust
each
other
to
you
know
I
don't
know
not
take.
B
I
don't
know
1k
and
spend
it
on.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
on
things
that
you
shouldn't
be
spending
it
on
and
then
like.
In
my
opinion,
this
experiment.
The
goal
is
to
remove
bureaucracy
from
I
don't
know
I
scrolled
through
twitter.
I
saw
something
interesting
and
I
think
like
I
could
give
it
like
three
hundred
dollars.
I
just
go
to
the
whatever
to
a
forum
post,
hey.
I
want
three
hundred
dollars
to
and
fund
this
nft
artist,
because
I
think
this
will
be
great
for
geek
style
and
that's
the
goal.
B
H
It
might
be
nice
to
lay
out
some
like
examples
or
just
guidelines
for
what,
like
we're,
expecting
it
to
be
used
for,
like
most
of
the
things
I've
been
thinking
of,
is
obviously
kind
of
related
to
governance,
and
I
don't
know
whether
this
is
the
correct
outlet
for
that
or
if
this
is
something
that
should
just
get
brought
up.
As
like.
Oh
there's,
a
few
bounties,
I
think
we
could
like
create
for
like
relating
to
governance,
and
if
that
should
be
separate
from
this
or
if
this
is
a
good
way.
D
To
do
that,
one
initiative
I
could
think
of
particularly
myself
is
asking
the
community
on
discord
or
in
twitter
to
read
our
dx
vote
article
about
the
future
of
governance
as
a
hybrid
between
reputational
and
liquid
token
governance
and
asking
people
to
come
up
with
memes
about
it
and
then
reward
the
best,
memes
and
and
use
the
funds
like.
If,
if
I'm
given
a
thousand
dollars,
I
will
ask
people
to
read
the
article
and
create
memes
from
with
the
information
from
the
article
about
governance,
2.0
and
I'll,
give
the
top
five.
F
But
yeah,
but
to
ross
to
your
question,
I
I
think
that
this
should
be
wide
open
for
anything
with
that
brings
value
to
the
external
ecosystem
it
includes.
Governance
includes
marketing,
includes
everything.
So
if
you
have
some
unique
little
ideas
related
to
governance,
I
think
that
that
should
for
sure
be
part
of
initiative.
Dial,
yeah.
F
But
we
should
yeah,
we
we
can
make
like
a
you
know,
five
bullet
outline.
F
B
Yeah,
I
guess
we
have
a
few
more
minutes.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about?
You?
Have
the
pocket
network
deal
that
we're
discussing.
D
F
F
A
A
H
Denver
things
open
and
it's
somebody
was
saying
in
the
discord.
You
should
apply
asap
so
yeah.