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From YouTube: DXbiz Weekly Gathering [2022-07-25]
Description
00:03 Welcome
01:09 WAGMI Venture Studio Presentation
15:46 ETHCC Thoughts and Feedback
28:25 CoW Protocol in Swapr
33:33 DXdao Contributor Coordinape
34:02 Infinite Hackathon
39:56 Nimi
A
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
dx
dial
business
call
for
monday
25th
of
july
2022.
on
the
agenda
day
we
agenda
today
we
don't
have
any
new
member
introductions
under
exploring.
We
have
wagner
studio,
andre
who
will
present
in
just
a
minute
under
the
excuse
discussions.
A
We
have
the
ecc
and
paris
week
that
happened
just
last
week
where
many
of
the
exo
contributors
actually
attended
we'll
do
under
these
events,
we'll
do
a
little
bit
of
recap
and
then
I
think
generally
keenan
is
here,
but
we
just
even
discuss.
We
also
discussed
so
like
the
internet
hackathon
in
bogota
the
status,
and
you
know
the
co-organizers
and
stuff
like
that
and
under
the
accentures
I
think
we
are
exploring
the
nimi
opportunity.
A
So
that's
that-
and
I
think
the
coordinate
was
already
live
right,
the
appreciation-
and
so
I
guess
we
can
talk
about
this
also
later
and
yeah
so
andre.
Welcome
to
the
you
know
the.
B
A
Public
business
call
yeah.
I
would
love
to
learn
about
what
you're
doing
like
one
of
your
colleagues
reached
out
to
me
about
like
a
web
3
crm,
which
is
definitely
interesting.
Yeah
we'd
love
to
hear
more
about
what
you
guys
are
building
the
venture
studio,
and
you
know
about
this
web
3crm
as
well.
B
Yeah
happy
to
be
here
guys,
thank
you
for,
for
inviting
me
yeah.
We
are
one
vendor
studio.
We
are
a
web
3
starter
builder.
B
We
have
raised
3
million
euros
to
launch
several
projects
in
the
next
years
from
the
we
are
based
in
barcelona.
Our
main
investor
is
a
top
dc
fund
here,
the
the
biggest
one
and
also
is
we
have
as
a
shareholder,
the
crypto
exchange
the
biggest
crypto
exchange
in
southern
europe.
The
name
is
bitchumi
okay,
so
we
are
building.
One
of
the
first
projects
that
we
are
building
is
a
crm
and
marketing
automation
tool
for
web3.
B
We
believe
that
there
is
a
huge
opportunity
to
improve
the
relationship
between
the
water
holders
and
the
dubs,
so
in
terms
of
how
we
can
analyze
the
behavior
of
these
wallets,
how,
in
our
platform
and
outside
in
other
blockchains,
the
onboarding,
how
we
can
improve
the
onboarding
from
crypto
natives
are
known:
crypto
natives,
where
the
users
are
coming
to
to
understand.
B
What's
the
the
the
canals
that
are
performing
better,
the
channels
that
are
performing
better,
also
in
terms
of
help
desk,
how
we
can
start
a
conversation,
because,
right
now,
when
a
user
has
an
issue,
the
managed
disease
for
in
a
discourage
is
a
is
a
lot
harder.
So
and
we
are
planning
a
lot
of
things
all
related
about
marketing,
automation
and
control
and
manage
the
relationship
with
customers.
B
Partnering
collaborating
with
decentraland
with
metamask,
so
we
and
other
other
defy
defy
product
projects
like
potion
protocol.
I
don't
know
if
you
you
know
these
guys.
They
are
building
a
options.
This
amm
options
protocol
so
yeah.
We
we
want
to
involve
for
you
as
an
early
adopter
for
the
platform
that
we
are
starting
developing.
A
Yeah
so
super
interesting,
and
I
think
your
colleague
I
forgot
her
name,
but
she
reached
out
about
like
the
specific
so
like
crm,
do
you
wanna,
like
maybe,
expand
on
that
and
like
what
exactly
you're
building,
and
I
guess
maybe
some
of
the
ways
that
we
could
use
it.
So
just
for
reference,
I
don't
know
how
well
you
know
the
excel,
but
you
know
we
are
a
fully
on
chain
dial.
So
this
is
not
like
using
snapshot
than
the
standard,
multi-sig
server
combination.
A
We
have
smart
contracts
that
are
deployed
at
mainnet
and
the
gnosis
chain
and
that's
how
we
manage
sort
of
most
of
our
activities
and
yeah.
We
have
a
few
dapps
deployed
on
main
sorry,
we're
also
on
arbitrary.
So
we
have
a
few
apps
deployed
on
mainnet
on
arbitrom
and
on
gnosis
chain
and
we
sort
of
govern
them
through
the
dell
and
we
have
so
currently.
We
have
essentially
the
dxd
token,
which
is
sort
of
like
the
claim
on
future
revenue
of
geeksdale.
A
Then
we
have
swapper,
which
is
sort
of
like
an
improved
uni,
swap
sort
of
like
a
meta,
aggregator
I'll
call
it,
and
that
has
its
own
token
as
well
called
swapper
token
and
that's
live
on
three
different
chains,
so
yeah
this
is
sort
of
like
a
bit
of
background.
A
B
Yeah,
so
right
now,
for
example,
are
you
profiling,
your
watercolors
in
terms
of
know
better
about
how
they
are?
How
are
you
they
behave
in
your
platform?
For
you
are
you?
Are
you
implementing
something
to
try
to
to
make
them
transact
more,
for
example,
or
because
your
commercial
communication
right
now
with
your
your
current
wallet
callers,
I
don't
think
we
have.
I
guess
that.
A
And
you
know
others,
maybe
you
can
chime
in
in
here,
but
in
general.
I
think
you
know
we
look
at
sometimes
at
the
ether
scan
transactions
and
then
you
know
some
could
be
selling
we're,
not
really
sure
how
it
is
and
yeah
like
we
haven't.
We
don't
have
direct
communication
with
sort
of
like
wallets.
We
hope
some
of
them
are
in
our
discord,
which
is
you
know,
more.
The
public
facing
communications
method
and.
C
B
For
example,
you
don't
know
where,
where
are
they
coming
in
terms
of
when
you
are
growing,
if
it's
a
post
on
reddit
or
it's
something
other
protocol
that
mention
you
in
in
twitter,
so
this
can
yeah
to
know
yeah
yeah.
We
is
what
we
are
trying
to
solve.
Yeah.
A
B
A
Most
of
our
apps
are
also
deployed
on,
like
so
like
they've
deployed
an
ipfest
with
dns
is
the
gateway,
so
we
don't
have
any
analytics
and
that's
you
know
that's
by
choice
right.
You
don't
want
to
have
you
know,
sort
of
kind
of
like
website.
B
Not
only
analytics
but
relationship
because
in
the
end
you
can
start
a
conversation
with
a
watercolor,
but
you
need
to
understand
better
this
watercolor.
So
it's
why
we
we
need
an
analytics
platform
to
do
that.
Yeah.
A
B
A
B
B
Okay,
one
of
them
is
as
a
dab
or
that
now
you
were
able
to
know
where
your
users
are
coming
from
or
in
terms
of,
for
example,
feedback,
better
channels
to
provide
feedback
and
to
request
for
for
improvements,
because,
as
a
what
me,
one
of
our
missions
is
how
we
can
onboard
the
next
one
billion
people
into
web3,
okay,
so
one
of
the
the
things
that
we
are
we
want
to
build
in
this
crm
and
automation
tool.
B
It's
how
we
can
improve
the
onboarding
process
of
users,
for
example,
for
a
non-crypto
native
user,
or
how
this
user
is
able
to
provide
feedback.
I
understand
that
you
have
your
own
data
and
you
have
your
channels,
but
we
believe
that
you
need
feedback.
You
need
the
rig,
for
example,
the
requests
in
terms
of
features.
Are
they
coming
from
the
your
most
engaged
users
in
terms
of
transactions?
B
So
is
the
the
questions
that
as
a
as
a
developer
or
as
a
business,
I
will
ask
for
for
improve
my
my
my
platform.
So
it's
it's.
Some
use
case
that
we
want
to
solve
with
our
platform.
C
B
Is
is
through
actually
right
now,
it
depends
in
terms
of
feedback,
is
most
it
will
be
most
about
engaging
with
about
feedback
and
onboarding.
It's
about
better
ways
to
engage
with
the
user,
yeah
and
in
terms
of
analyze.
The
profile
of
the
user
is
more
about
tracking
is
how
you
can
integrate
in
your
that's
our
platform,
and
we
are
building
a
decentralized
data
platform,
so
is,
is,
is
about
that,
so
we
want
to
be
the
one
stop
shop
when
you
are
starting.
D
B
C
Our
product,
we
don't
use
any
tracking
and,
and
we
try
to
hold
back
even
though
we
really
want
to
use
tracking
and
know
what
what
what
their
use
is
coming
from
and
and
what
they're
doing
and
which,
which
features
they're
using
on
our
site.
On
on
our
app.
We,
we
don't
really
use
tracking,
because
it
goes
against.
B
C
Yeah
so
another
thing
we
are,
we
also
building
something
we
call
swapper
expedition,
which
basically
is
like
you
do
different
missions
on
swapper
and
you
collect
points.
Basically,
if
we,
if
we
did
swap
expeditions
together
with
like
a
questionnaire
where
we
ask
the
user,
we
basically
just
ask
them
to
answer
a
couple
of
questions
yeah.
B
C
He's
take
care
of
all
our
community
basically
and
twitter,
and
discord
and
yeah
the
influx
of
people
coming
in
and
out
so,
but
keenan
is,
I
think,
is
away
a
couple
of
days
or
something
like
that:
okay,
but
yeah
you
could
you
could
write
to
me
or
keena,
so
I'm
that
both
here
and
on
key
base
and
keenan
is
keen
and
on
on
key
base.
2.
are
you
in
our
key
base?
I'm
not
sure.
B
I'm
I
I
believe,
not
okay.
If
I
I
can't
I
can
put
here
my
email.
C
I'll
I'll
I'll
drop
you
my
mimi
page,
where
I
have
all
my
details.
Okay,
give
me
a
sec
here.
C
C
C
C
C
A
All
right,
andre
thanks
for
the
time
you
know,
feel
free
to
stick
around
for
the
rest
of
the
call
we're
going
to
be
chatting
like
mostly
about
paris,
which
is
the
latest
event
we
most
all
of
us
most
of
us
participated
and
then
some
of
our
like
our
future
events.
Okay,.
B
A
Yes,
so
yeah,
the
next
topic
is
sort
of
like
just
a
a
general
roundup
of
fcc.
I
think
you
know
we
had.
I
don't
know
personally.
I
had
like
a
great
time
both
meeting
like
you
know
the
style,
folks
and
other
folks,
and
I
think
also
in
my
opinion
that,
like
our
event
was
like
one
of
the
best
events,
because
it
was
like
a
really
nice
rooftop,
there
was,
you
know
there
was
really
nice
food
and
I
didn't
have
to
go
to
like
a
boat
or
like
get
on
a
boat.
A
I
I
got
on
the
couch
to
a
boat
and
then
it
started
moving.
I
was
like
you
know
what
the
so
so
yeah
I
was
stuck
there
for
a
couple
of
hours.
So
yeah,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
other
other
like
thoughts.
I
felt
I
think
you
know
the
more
more
things
happen.
Then,
the
more
more
events
of
these
we
attend,
the
more
sort
of
like
we
get
yeah
we
get
the
dxdow
brand
out,
especially
when
we
have
like
awesome,
swag
and
and
yeah.
B
E
Yeah,
I
can,
I
can
just
give
some
overall
thoughts,
but
there's
actually
quite
a
few
different
things.
So,
even
though
you
know
only
a
few
of
us
had
ecc
tickets,
which
was
obviously
a
great
event,
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
before,
the
recording
you
can
see
everything
on
online,
I
believe
so
make
sure
you
find
out
any
topics
that
you're
interested
in
go
back
and
look
at
that.
E
E
The
cool
thing
was
for
dx
style,
having
so
many
contributors
there,
people
got
to
also
attend
a
lot
of
the
other
side.
Events
that
sounded
like
the
stark,
the
stark
events,
the
thesis
events
which
we
went
to
a
couple
of
them,
the
the
protocol,
labs
and
consensus
events.
Those
all
seemed
really
awesome
as
well.
I
kind
of
wish
that
I
was
able
to
see
some
of
those,
but
I
didn't,
but
we
had
other.
E
You
know
a
set
of
people
that
were
able
to
attend
those,
and
so
we
had
you
know
people
across
all
of
different
things
and
it's
the
small
things
that
you
know
when
dxdow
has
this
presence.
I
actually
think
it
has
a
ton
of
value.
For
example,
you
know
the
thesis
that
one
of
the
first
events
was
the
thesis
event
organized
by
thesis,
unlike
sage
punks,
and
we
we're
talking
with
a
handful
of
the
people
that
are
working
on
tally
and
and
all
the
different
things
that
thesis
works
on
and
dx
dow.
E
I
think
we
had
like
maybe
five
representatives
there
and
we
were
participating
in
the
panel
nathan
asked
some
awesome
questions
and
even
though
you
know
it
was
just
a
side
event
and
it
lasted
for
a
couple
hours
like
they.
They
were
very
aware
that,
like
five
people
from
dxdow
were
there
there
weren't
five
people
from
you
know,
unit
swap
or
other
amms
or
talking
about
swapper
or
any
other
things
there,
so
that
you
know
puts
that.
That's
like
building
the
relationship
with
tally.
E
You
know
when,
when
it
comes
time
for
their
wallet
to
integrate
an
amm
or
something
like
swapper
and
and
dx
dow,
you
know
probably
have
a
one
one
up
leg
or
one
leg
up
on
something
like
that,
so
having
the
presence
of
people
at
all
of
the
events,
and
we
I
think
we
covered
many.
Many
different
events
is
really
awesome
to
see
the
the
event
that
we
organized
with
gnosis
chain
and
git
pop
and
then
nosy
safe,
joined
as
well.
E
The
event
was
awesome.
People
really
liked
the
venue,
the
discussion,
breakout
thing
wasn't
as
like
successful
as
we
were
thinking,
but
part
of
the
reason
was
is
because
we
had
such
a
good
crowd
there
that
everyone
was
already
in
their
own
group
discussions.
You
know
talking
about
different
topics,
whether
it
was
swapper
or
cow
swap
or
dao's,
or
decentralization
so
like
it
like
that
id
presenting
that
idea
was
a
good
way
to
like
put
some
format,
but
it
almost
wasn't
necessary.
E
I
mean
it
almost
achieved
what
we
were
the
way
we
achieved
like
the
environment
at
our
happy
hour
in
denver,
which
was
the
idea
it's
just
a
little
hard
to
do
at
like
random
bar
in
paris.
So
that's
why
we
kind
of
had
to
secure
the
venue
and
bring
in
drinks
and
bring
in
catering
and
stuff
the
merch
yeah.
The
other
thing
is
the
merch,
like
you
know.
E
I
know
people
in
the
space
that
don't
take
march
and
they
took
they
like
took
our
merch
and
so
our
merch
game,
even
though
it
was
like
more
scarce
and
and
not
like
in
everyone's
face,
was,
was
really
awesome
and
a
lot
of
people
were
talking
about
some
of
those
shirts
and
then
the
fans
obviously
made
a
big
splash
at
a
bunch
of
different
event,
a
bunch
of
the
of
the
different
events
and
the
fans.
E
I
have
a
feeling
that
fans
are
going
to
stick
around
at
at
ethereum
events
as
long
as
it's
not
winter,
probably
for
a
really
long
time,
because
people
love
waving
and
holding
and
taking
pictures
and
stuff
with
fans
which
is
pretty
pretty
cool
and
then
also
the
dx
down
dinner
and
having
a
chance
for
everyone
that
was
there
to
meet,
unfortunately,
was
in
like
a
slightly
sauna
restaurant,
but
we
took
over
the
street
and
hung
out,
and
that
was
a
really
great
opportunity.
I
wish
we
got
to
do
that.
E
We
did
that
in
smaller
groups
later
on
as
well,
but
yeah
anytime.
We
can
get
everyone
together,
it's
always
a
great
time
to
connect,
especially
for
people
that
hadn't
met
each
other
and
you
get
the
the
first
you're
you're
there
in
person
when
certain
people
get
to
meet
other
people
for
the
first
time,
such
as
nathan,
meeting
derek
the
second
time
after
not
knowing
he
was
dirk,
the
first
time,
which
was
pretty
funny
yeah,
so
that
those
are
some
good
thoughts.
E
I
think
keenan
I'll
probably
try
to
do
it
to
a
few.
Anyone
that
wants
to
the
what
we've
done
in
the
past
is
like
write,
any
thoughts
that
you
have
and
feel
free
to
put
in
a
we
can
start
a
forum
thread
which
is
like
things
learned
interesting
things.
You
know
things
related
to
dx
dial.
We
can.
We
can
share
those
anything
we
want
to
share
publicly
in
the
forum
and
then,
if
there's
any
private
things,
we
could
share
that
just
between
each
other
and
more
of
a
private
setting.
D
Yeah,
I
also
think
our
event
was
like
really
great,
just
like
it
can
be
like
so
difficult
to
book
time
with
people
and
like
just
knowing
people
are
kind
of
like
trapped
at
our
event
for
a
couple
of
hours
you
know
like
just
makes
it
really
easy
to
sync
up
with
people
like
had
to
schedule
meetings,
and
it
was
really
easy
was
like
yeah,
let's
just
chat
during
the
happy
hour
we
have
and
the
people
actually
showed
up,
and
it
was
like
a
really
good
way
to
just
kind
of
get
around
all
that
like
chaotic
planning
for
meetings,
and
I
think,
like
overall,
like
the
caliber
or
in
a
way
of
people
attending
our
event
was
like
really
good.
D
You
know
like
it
was
people
from
top
organizations
and
projects
and
like
from
developers
to
everything,
so
it
was
like
really
great
to
have
conversations
and
stuff,
so
that
was,
you
know,
definitely
see
the
value
in
that.
If
we
can
repeat
that
at
other
conferences
and
like
kind
of
ironically,
a
good
thing
was
like
we
had
really
good
ac
at
our
event
and
like
ecc,
didn't
you
know
so
people
just
also,
if
you
have
a
cool
venue,
especially
with
you
know,
ac,
if
it's
all
just
outside.
D
A
Yeah
agreed,
it
was
just
like
really
nice
and
yeah
like
like.
I
like,
I
mean
kind
of.
I
want
to
say
that
I,
like
sort
of
associating
with
gnosis
chain-
and
you
know
hypnosis
itself,
and
you
know
cuff,
swap
gnosis,
safe
and
stuff
so
yeah,
like
you
know,
I
think
this
is
good.
You
know
it
doesn't.
It
can
have
also
like
negative
things,
but
I
think
overall,
this
is
like
fairly
good
for
now
and
yeah.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
says
any
other
things.
E
Yeah,
I'd
still
like
to
get
maybe
there's
a
better
web3
tool
for
this,
but
the
the
inviting
people
to
our
event
and
and
the
event
and
eventbrite
being
the
tool
that
everyone
uses
in
the
space
and
everyone
just
signs
up
for
everything.
And
then
you
know
most
people
don't
show
up,
but
just
the
people
you
like
actually
invited,
show
up
and
like
what
was
the
point
of
even
having
it
on
eventbrite
and
yeah.
Kickback.
Maybe
is
an
option.
E
Apparently
there
may
be
some
merger
or
something
going
on
with
kickback,
but
staking
you
know,
staking
to
get
people
to
show
up.
There's
been
talk
about
other
hackathons
because
obviously
we're
talking
about
our
hackathon
a
bunch,
but
there
was
talk
in
other
hackathons
around.
That
is
there's
a
big
problem
for
hackers
that
come
up
to
like
whether
it's
denver
or
other
hackathons
and
then
actually
don't
submit
projects
and
don't
actually
build,
and
they
just
show
up,
but
they
you
know
they
applied
to
hack,
but
then
they
don't
hack.
E
And
so
we
were
talking
about
lots
of
different
ways
to
to
use
staking
or
incentivization
in
order
to
get
better
performance
and
get
better
output
out
of
hackathons,
specifically,
and
so
that
you
know
that
same
logic
could
be
applied
to
meetup
events
as
well.
So
unfortunately,
there's
that
the
the
eventbrite
was
a
bit
of
a
mess
which
is
unfortunate.
E
So
luckily,
with
the
with
the
four
sponsors
all
inviting
people,
you
got
a
decent
mix
of
interesting
communities
and
projects
and
things
which
is
great,
and
then
you
got
to
overlap
with
all
of
those
because
it
was
a
shared
event.
That's
the
benefit
to
having
like
a
shared
event
rather
than
just
dx
dow
organized
event.
I
think,
but
we
can
keep
experimenting
with
that.
But
yeah
like
air-conditioned
meet-up
spaces
there
are
places
for
people
to
come.
E
Hang
out
is
a
is
a
great
idea
in
general,
it's
hard
in
paris
because
the
venues,
but
we
could
think
about
that
more
for
other
other
events,
and
there
are
people
that
you
know
said
specifically,
you
know
a
year
ago,
they
didn't
know
what
dx
dow
was
and
then
they
started
meeting
dick
style.
People
at
you
know
paris
and
amsterdam,
and
lisbon
and
stuff,
and
now
they
are,
you
know,
excited
to
learn
more
they're
helping
you.
E
With
ideas
and
things
like
that
and
so
yeah,
the
presence
of
of
dx
down
these
in-person
events
is,
is
pretty
impactful.
I
think.
A
Yeah,
I
agree
and
I
think
yeah
our
brand
is
like
fairly
strong
and
yeah.
I
guess
we
just
need
to
continue.
You
know
probably
like
doing
more
events,
shipping,
more
products
and
yeah.
I'm
excited
for
like
something
like
carrot
to
be
like
a
little
bit
more
available
available
and
then
obviously
neemi
which,
like
I
I
basically
whenever
I
met,
I
would
meet
someone.
I
would
just
like,
send
them
hey.
You
know
instead
of
saying
elon
whatever
I
would
just
send
them.
My
name
and
it's
like
you
know,
people
like
it.
A
It's
like
super
cool
it
uses
like
web3
and
and
yeah.
I
think
yeah.
I
would
like
to
see
like
I
told
that
there
needs
to
needs
to
be
a
button
that
says,
like
you
know,
get
your
name
me
now,
and
so
you
know
they
see
this
and
you
know
they're
they
get
their
own
amy,
so
they're
pretty
cool
and
yeah.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
any
thoughts.
A
A
All
right,
so,
I
think,
like
the
next
topic
is
the
cow
protocol
in
swapper,
but
I
flew
with
ken
on
the
flight
and
we
were
just
like
chatting
for
like
five
hours,
and
I
said
that
yeah,
you
know
we're
essentially
building
like
a
front
end
that
enables
using
so
like
limit
orders
and
car
swap
it
does
have
some
limitations,
but
you
know
this.
This
will
work
and
it
will
be
very
cool.
Is
that
do
you
want
to
extend
expand
on
that.
C
Yeah
I
mean
we
talked
a
lot
with
the
cow
protocol.
People
talk
with
the
developers
and
and
with
their
marketing
person,
and
they
are
excited
I'm.
I
was
actually
a
little
bit
worried
that
we're
kind
of
like
stop
like
how
do
you
say
walking
on
their
toes
or
whatever,
because
I,
I
basically
said,
hey
we're
working
on
doing
the
limit
orders
for
cap
protocol
and
I
know
they
haven't,
had
they
don't
have
it
on
their
on
their
on
their
front
end.
Yet
so
I
asked
like
how
do
we?
C
How
do
we
proceed
with
this
without,
like
not
making
a
cow,
swap
look,
look
outdated
right
because
we'll
have
more
features
on
swapper
than
on
cow
protocol.
C
If
that
happens,
and
they
were
super
happy,
I
mean
it
seems
like
they're,
not
focusing
so
much
on
product
they're,
focusing
on
the
protocol
itself,
which
is
positive
for
us,
because
we
we're
we're
like
on
the
other
end
right.
We
don't
work
so
much
on
on
the
contract
side
or
on
the
product
protocol
side,
we're
mostly
like
a
product
team.
A
I
can
tell
you
that
I'm
I've
been
telling
like
this
entire
flight.
I
told
them.
You
should
optimize
for
cows
and
that's
kind
of
like
what
you
you
should
try
to
create
the
most,
because,
that's
you
know
the
biggest
advantage
of
cow
swap
over,
like
you
know
other
decks,
and
then
you
know,
if
a
cow
happens,
you
want
to
you
know
incentivize
the
referrer
right.
A
You
know
whatever
a
third
to
the
cow
protocol,
a
third
two
swapper
and
a
third
to
the
solver,
or
something
like
that
and
that
there
could
be
like
a
revenue
model
also
for
swapper
like
this
is
super
cool
and
you
know
they're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
it.
But
yeah,
like
I
think,
like
cow,
swap,
has
like
a
really
good
chance
of
becoming
yeah
like
like
a
very
good.
A
You
know
execution
method,
and
you
know
this
is
sort
of
like
the
economics
of
scale
if
billy
like,
if
there's
like
a
billion
daily
transactions
on
on
kao,
so
there's
gonna
be
like
many
many
cows
and
you
know
better
prices
settlement
that
goes
back
like
cheaper
prices
and
then
you
know
kickbacks
that
essentially
goes
back,
go
back
to
referrer
and
to
the
you
know
trader.
C
So
I
think
there
was
actually
an
interesting
thought
I
had
with
with
the
marketing
person
from
he
said:
basically
yeah.
Obviously
the
more
people
use
it.
The
better
a
cow
protocol
works
right,
so
so
their
strategy
is
to
to
make
as
m
as
many
protocols
or
other
frontends
as
possible
to
actually
integrate
capricor.
C
But
for
now
it's
it's
just
us
and
it's
a
balancer
that
has
that
integrated
and
and
it's
not
working
like
they're,
not
pushing
it
too
much
so
they're
working
on
me
like
what
what
uniswap
did,
which
is
like
a
widget
of
of
of
the
swap
box,
basically
and
and
then
you
could
white
white
label
it.
So
I
think
it's
pretty
interesting
that
that
what
we
are
doing
with
with
the
protocol
integration
is
basically
this.
C
This
widget
thing
right,
but
but
we're
doing
it
ourselves,
so
I
think
yeah
we
we
might
explore
on
how
we
could
evolve
this
integration.
Maybe
the
echo
route
integration
is
just
like
the
v1
right,
maybe
the
future
they
will
have
their
own
section
or
their
own
site.
We
don't
know
this
yet
and
depends
on
the
on
what
the
user
wants.
C
In
the
end,
we
had
actually
a
call
before
on
swapper
weekly
talking
about
this,
but
but
yeah
the
integration
is
just
just
the
first
step
and
and
we'll
we'll
dig
in
even
more
to
see
what
what
the
user
wants
and
yeah
how
to
use
the
protocol.
The
best.
A
Yeah
super
cool.
Anyone
else
has
any
comments.
A
All
right,
so
I
guess
the
next
topic
is
the
coordinate
is
live
and
I'll
just
paste
this
here
in
the
chat.
Don't
do
it
now?
Do
it
at
the
end
of
the
call
you
have
to
stay
focused
right
now
in
the
call
and
yeah.
So
that's
live.
Give
coins
to
you
know
people
that
you
work
with
and
you
like
working
with
it
with
this,
is
like
yeah,
it's
a
a
great
initiative
yeah.
So
on
to
the
next
topic.
A
We
have
dx
events,
dx
events
we
have
so
we
have
the
plant
hackathon
in
bogota.
I
think
keenan
is
not
here,
but
we,
you
know
we
discussed
this
in
ecc.
Maybe
he
would
like
to
update,
probably
like
in
the
dick's
voice
chat
but
but
yeah.
Basically,
we
decided
that
there's
gonna
be
a
sort
of
like
deadline
to
to
figure
out
like
if
we're
actually
gonna
go
through
with
this
or
not
and
and
yeah
like.
If
we
don't,
then
what
are
the
alternatives?
What
else
can
we
do
and
yeah?
D
I
mean
it
was
great
to
have
the
stickers
in
paris
as
well
right
just
to
give
out
and
tell
people
what
it
was
about.
But
I
don't
know
if
we
got
any
sign
ups
from
that.
But
I
guess
abuso
is
the
guy
monitoring
that
so
we
don't
know
or.
B
E
No,
I
was
maybe
the
first
one,
but
just
to
add
to
that,
so
we
we
we
discussed
it
because
in
general
it's
a
it's
a
tricky
situation,
we're
just
learning.
You
know
a
lot
of
people,
don't
even
know.
One
thing
we
did
learn
in
paris.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
I
thought
would
be
say,
I'm
going
to
devcon
and
they're
saying:
oh,
no,
I'm
probably
not
going
to
go
to
defcon.
So
there
there's
already
this
this
thing
of
you
know:
people
are
traveled
out.
It's
very
far
away.
E
Some
people
think
it's
slightly
dangerous.
Others
are
okay
with
that,
so
in
general,
and
then
people
don't
know
if
they
have
tickets
yet
and
things
like
that,
so
in
general,
most
people
do
not
know
if
they
are
going
yet
or
they
are
not
going
and
some
people
are
like.
Oh
I'm
going
no
matter
what
and
then
once
you
get
over
that
it's
a
matter
of
like
well
hackers
who
apply
to
hackathons
how
early
ahead
of
time
do
they
do.
You
know
things
like
that?
E
Do
they
decide
and
then
there's
also
competition,
so
there's
a
lot
of
factors
there.
E
We
obviously
there's
like
a
timeline
of
deposits
for
the
venue
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
you
know
having
some
certainty
about
those
dates
figuring
out.
What
what
we
need
or
don't
you
know,
have
a
plan
going
into
those
timelines
is
the
important
thing
and
then
we
are
yeah
realizing
that
you
know
dx
dao
community
alone,
you
know
main,
is
not
as
powerful
as
maybe
joined
communities
and
so
depending
on
who
the
co-organizers
are
and
who
their,
what
their
communities
are
and
how
big
they
are
and
how
influential
they
are.
E
The
idea
of
it
of
like
you
know,
a
hack,
a
hackathon
for
hackers,
where,
like
money's,
not
necessarily
the
price
but
like
status
and
and
like
what
do
you
call
like,
like
winning
the
hackathon
and
and
reputation
of
winning
a
specific
hackathon
hackathon
people
really
like
that
idea,
but
that
that
doesn't
mean
they
were
like,
like
rushing
to
apply
or
anything.
E
E
That
I
think,
we'll
yeah
we'll
have
to
make
some
decisions
at
some
points
in
time,
and
then
there
is
also
the
people
who
are
talking
about
in
general,
like
we
just
mentioned
the
idea
of
having
a
space
where
people
in
the
in
the
in
that
show
up
to
an
event
or
a
city
can
just
show
up
to
there's
games.
There's
hackathon
going
on
there's
talking
about
ideas
almost
like
think
about
like
a
happy
hour
that
lasts
the
entire
weekend
right,
like
the
the
crowd
that
showed
up
to
the
our
happy
hour
in
paris.
E
What
if
you
had
a
space
like
that?
Where
people
could
just
come
all
weekend
and
you
could
invite
people
there
and
things
like
that.
That's
also
an
interesting
idea.
Obviously
that's
different
than
a
hackathon,
but
that
is
a
potential
opportunity
as
well
in
a
in
a
cool
space
like
that.
So
we
can
keep
that
idea
in
the
background
as
well.
E
E
Yeah,
it's
kind
of
like
a
hacker
house.
Obviously
hacker
houses
are
becoming
more
popular.
There
were
some
in
austin.
There
are
some
in
new
york.
There
are
some
in
paris
they're,
usually
organized
by
like
polka
dots,
solana
and
some
other
different
communities,
but
there's
no
reason
why
a
hangout
hacker
house
where
ideas
can
be
talked
about
and
discussed,
and
it's
not
necessarily
a
judged
hackathon
that
that's
also
an
interesting
idea
whether
our
venue
is
the
right
spot
for
that
is
another
question,
but
we
can.
E
A
Yeah
yeah
any
other
comments,
thoughts.
A
People
are
dropping
so
yeah,
maybe
moving
on
to
the
next
and
last
topic
and
it's
sneami
sort
of
like
under
the
exventures.
There
is
like
a
bit
of
a
proposal
walking
around.
I
think
some
people
ask
for
feedback
and
yeah,
I
don't
know
dave,
do
you
want
to
you
want
to
talk
about
a
little
more?
We
we
could
probably
have
like
a
specific
call
to
discuss
this.
Maybe
once
there's
like
something
on
the
forum.
D
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
give
an
overview,
not
sure
if
everyone's
aware
of
neemi,
I
guess
most
are
it's,
it
was
actually
just
a
hackathon
project.
We
built
me
john
zett,
adam
and
milan,
at
the
eve,
amsterdam,
hackathon
and
the
whole
idea
was
like
you
know,
at
dx
style
we
use
ens
domains,
a
lot
kind
of
like
to
their
fullest
extent
by
hosting
on
them,
etc,
and
so
we
really
just
built
in
like
24
hours
or
36
hours.
D
However
long
it
was
like
a
very
basic
like
your
own
profile
page
like
I
guess
you
could
compare
it
a
bit
to
like
link
tree
and
what
nemi
does
it,
then
you
know
creates
a
page
from
this
uploads
it
to
ipfs
and
then
sets
the
content
hash
on
ens,
and
we
definitely
have
a
lot
of
cool
ideas
of
what
to
do
around
it,
and
I
think
you
know
it's
definitely
very
cool
the
fact
that
it's,
you
know
around
like
bringing
more
users
to
actually
use
their
ens
to
their
fullest
extent,
which
a
lot
of
people,
of
course,
don't
do.
D
A
lot
of
people
share
it
on
twitter,
but
don't
actually
host
any
content
on
it
and
I
think
dxo
is
you
know
I
don't?
I
don't
want
to
say
the
only
one,
because
I
don't
have
the
proof
of
it,
but
you
know
certainly
one
of
the
earliest
adopters
of
actually
using
ens
to
host
data
and
yeah.
So
I
think
that's
just
some
thoughts
going
around
about,
like
you
know,
should
nimi
be
a
project
that
should
be
carried
on
further
and
supported,
and
how
could
something
like
that?
Look?
D
You
know,
of
course
we
built
nimi
at
the
hackathon.
While
we
were
there,
you
know
representing
the
exile
pretty
much
and
yeah.
I
think
like
it's
just
about
like
finding
a
way
like.
Should
it
be
a
dxtel
product
should
it
perhaps
receive
a
grant.
One
thing
we
were
thinking
about
was
like
an
incubator
style
approach.
D
You
know
where
there
could
be
a
grant
and
then
some
of
the
people
could
keep
working
on
it
etc,
and
I
think
all
of
this
right
now
is
really
just
an
idea
and
probably
makes
sense
to
put
something
in
the
forum
and
see
how
something
like
this
can.
You
know,
be
developed
further
or
brought
further,
but
yeah.
I
think
that's
pretty
much
from
it
from
my
side.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
wants
to
add
anything
or
any
questions.
A
So
you
know,
obviously
you
know
you
guys
developing
this
and
winning
in
the
hackathon,
and
I
mean
I've
always
been
sort
of
like
an
advocate
and
especially
after
seeing
kyle
swapping
gnosis
safe
of,
like
you
know,
dx
now
should
sort
of
incubate
products
and
then
and
then
spin
them
out
in
a
way
and
then
dxtile
could
continue
supporting
these
these
projects
and
products,
and
I
think
this
is
like
a
good
way
to
sort
of
test
this
out,
and
you
know
this
could
be
like
you
know,
I'd
like
to
see
nemo,
develop
more
right
and
then
you
know
as
more
and
more
features
sort
of
like
pick
up
then
yeah
nimi
could
you
know,
go
and
become
sort
of,
like
externally
venture
funded,
and
then
you
know
the
style
could
participate
in
that
round
and
maybe
there's
going
to
be
like
so
that
allocation,
then
an
extra
extra
allocation
to
the
exile
like
for
reference
in
cow
swap
and
the
ignorance.
A
I
think
they
each
gave
10
between
10
and
50
percent
of
the
tokens
to
dick
style,
and
I
think
generally,
this
is
a
win-win,
because
you
know
I
I
doubt
dxdow
will,
at
least
in
the
near
term,
like
you
know,
sell
these
tokens
but
yeah.
This
could
be
like
an
interesting
way,
for
you
know
like
new
products
to
to
spin
out
and
become
so
like
their
own
thing,
while
still
giving
the
style
some
upside
in
that-
and
you
know,
dxd
token
holders,
eventually
so
yeah
these.
A
D
Yeah
I
mean
over
the
weekend.
Actually
some
chinese
guy
found
nimi.
I
don't
know
how
and
tweeted
about
it
to
his
fifteen
thousand
followers
and
they've
been
like
700
mimi
pages
set
up
over
the
weekend,
which
was
kind
of
crazy
and
like
we
had
to
upgrade
our
pinata
keys
and
everything,
because
we
were
like
ddosing
our
pinata
api
pretty
much,
but
I
think
it
would
be
great
as
well.
If,
somehow
that
you
know
we
for
everyone
who
sets
up
the
nimi
page,
there
could
be
some
awareness
race
for
dick
style.
D
Like
you
know,
if
neemi
is
like
incubated
by
dxdow
or
whatever
you
know,
it
could
be
like
oh
go,
go
check
out,
swapper
or
carrot
or
all
these
other
products
we
have.
You
know
I
think
like
it
could
be
also
used
as
a
funnel
in
some
sort.
You
know,
I
think
that
could
be
cool
as
well.
C
I
think
probably
neemi
is
the
best
education
for
web3
people
to
to
understand
what
web3
domain
is
and
and
what
the
difference
in
between
normal
domain
is
versus
a
yeah
just
an
ens.
I
think
we're
doing
we're
doing
quite
a
favor
for
to
ens
by
by
doing
this,
taking
taking
ns
mainstream.
Oh
sorry,
ens
content,
mainstream
or
ems
websites
mainstream.
So
I
think
we
we
got
a
statistic.
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
correct,
but
25
of
all
ens
content
hash
is
set
is
done
through
neemi,
which
is
quite
a
high
number
right.
A
C
A
You
know
I'm
seeing
this
right
now,
but
in
ins
in
nami,
there's
like
no,
no
mentioning
of
the
external,
so
I
don't
know
something
to
consider.
Maybe
if
we
have
like
you
know,
powered
or
incubated
by
dick
style
or
some
sort
of
like
you
know,
just
a
dick
style
logo
100.
C
Let's,
let's
sort
out
the
details,
I
think
we
should
like
have
a
our
own
call,
just
sort
out
all
the
details
to
to
move
forward.
Yeah.
I
don't
like.
I
don't
like
it's
like
in
the
middle
right
now
we
don't
really
know.
What's
what
is
what,
if
we
just
sort
out
the
details,
create
a
proposal
or
or
yeah
proposal
draft
and
just
get
it
get
it
accepted
by
the
dow.
C
I'm
not
sure
like
how
like,
if
someone
from
dexter
just
creates
a
random
project
like
it's,
not
a
dickstar
project
until
the
dao
accepts
it
right
or
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
weird
situation,
but
but
yeah.
Let's,
let's
solve
that.
A
D
Yeah
I
mean
it'd
be
great
to
also
have
a
nemi
on
the
jigstyle
page,
of
course,
as
well
just
like
to
raise
awareness
right
and
yeah,
I
mean
we
should
figure
that
out
as
soon
as
possible
and
just
to
answer
actually
gerald's
question.
D
One
idea
we
actually
had
something
we
would
do
if
we
had
more
time
would
be
that,
like
dials
can
set
up
their
mimi
page.
So
you
have
like
an
organizational
page.
You
know,
and
I
mean
gig
style
uses
it
cns,
but
you
could
have
it
on
a
subdomain
or
whatever
you
know,
and
the
main
purpose
would
actually
be
that
the
dow
can
then
issue
kind
of
like
an
nft.
That
proves
that
you
work
for
the
dao
and
then
this
nft
can
be
displayed
on
your
own
private
neemi
page.
D
You
can
request
a
badge
that
you
work
at
the
excel
or
contribute
to
certain
projects,
and
I
think
that
could
be
a
really
cool
feature
and
we're
also
thinking
about,
like
some
similar
connect
feature
between
individuals,
not
only
between
dao
and
contributors,
but
also
between
individuals
where,
like,
if
you're
a
friend
or
something,
maybe
I
only
want
to
show
my
email
address
or
certain
other
data
to
people
I'm
actually
connected
with.
D
A
It
is
sort
of
like
an
ens
without
really
utilizing
the
nft
at
all,
and
then
nimi's
is
you
know
it's
it's
the
minimum
viable
product
for
an
application
on
top
of
ens
your
own
website,
which
makes
total
sense
and
also
you
know
it
makes
a
little
sense
because
dx
dial
has
been
for
ages
using
what
you
call
it
like
like
ens,
as
opposed
to
like
essentially
anyone
else
and
yeah
like
this.
A
Is
this
is
sort
of
like
a
match
made
in
heaven,
and
I-
and
I
think
this
would
be
really
great.
D
Yeah
and
one
thing,
I'm
actually
not
sure
if
everyone
is
aware
of
this,
but
we
also
have
some
great
guys
on
this
call
from
if
limo
and
in
their
v2,
they
actually
kind
of
integrated
mimi
in
a
way
that,
if
you
don't
have
a
content
hash
set
on
your
ens
and
you
try
to
visit
your
ens
in
the
browser.limo,
it
actually
redirects
you
to
like
a
default
page
where
we
currently
like.
D
We
pull
your
po
apps
and
any
text
records
you
set
on
your
ens
itself
and
then
you
can
directly
from
there
like
claim
and
deploy
your
own
mimi
page
as
well.
So
that's
also
been
really
massive
to
kind
of,
like
I
mean
at
conferences,
if
you
want
to
explain
to
someone
what
neemi
is
it's
just
like?
Do
you
have
an
ens
app.limo
at
the
end,
and
then
you
know
they,
like
kind
of
like
get
to
feel
what
like
browsing.
D
D
Thanks
yeah,
we
were
more
than
happy
to
work
with
you
massive
improvement
for
both
projects.
A
So
excited
to
keep
seeing
what
we
can
do
together.
A
A
Yeah,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
end
of
the
caller
right
a
few
minutes
past
the
time
but
yeah.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
this
participating
yeah
and
if
anyone
has
any
other
last
comments
or
thoughts
and
if
not
have
a
wonderful
week-
and
we
will
see
you
tomorrow,.