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B
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
monday
february,
1st
2021,
the
external
wisdom
call
the
agenda
for
today
is
we
have
new
member
introduction,
a
quick
overview
of
the
airtable
business
table
bogdan
from
stator
is
here,
and
it
will
present
partnership
joseph
from
token
insight
he's
here
and
he
will
talk
to
us
and
present
himself.
Venki
has
a
few
ideas
around.
Did
you
do
diligence
for
ido's?
B
Chris
has
some
ideas
on
using
uma
for
the
extew.
We
have
kind
of
feedback
on
the
recent,
the
recent
testing
of
alpres
from
albanite
and
a
quick
discussion
on
arbitrum
and
the
style
announcement.
B
A
Yeah
so
elon,
just
on
that
point,
I,
like
the
the
the
relevant
entries
that
are
on
the
air
table
that
have
like
something
new
has
changed
in
the
last
week.
Those
like
things
like
uma
opportunities
for
dx
dao
and
then
like
the
current
new
situation
with
alpres
so
like
those
are
already
becoming
the
talking
points
of
the
actual
biz
dev
call,
so
there's
no
reason
to
run
through
the
the
entire
thing
which
would
take
30
minutes
like
it.
Just
doesn't
it's
not
it's.
This
is
not
the
appropriate
call
for
that.
A
I
think
all
right
yeah
most
of
it
won't
be
most
of
it.
There's
like
you
can.
You
can
be
a
part
of
that,
but
the
the
important
ones
where
something
new
has
happened
in
the
last
week.
I
think
those
are
the
like
become
the
topics
of
the
actual
biz
dev
call,
so
that
those
are
added
on
there,
but
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
those
as
well.
All
right
sounds
pretty
better
way
to
do
it.
B
Yeah,
okay
yeah,
so
maybe
we
could
just
start
with
book.
Then,
if
you
want
to
maybe
quickly
introduce
yourself
and
then
yeah
introduce
the
part.
C
Okay,
okay,
hi
guys.
First
of
all,
thanks
for
having
me
in
this
call,
my
name
is
bogdan,
I'm
co-founder
and
ceo
at
stator,
and
that
later
we
are
building
an
open
source,
peer-to-peer
lending
platform
for
nft
assets
that
will
offer
users
the
option
to
leverage
and
unlock
the
value
of
their
asset
without
losing
ownership
started.
This
idea
at
the
beginning
of
last
year,
when
we
saw
like
the
opportunity
with
the
nxt
market,
and
now
we
are
currently
on
drinking
with
the
product.
C
So
if
you
want
to
go
and
check
it
out,
you
can
do
that
right
now
and
and
regarding
the
product.
We
also
have
like
a
lot
of
information
on
the
website.
We
have
the
product
available,
the
core
set
of
functionality,
it's
quite
straightforward.
So
basically,
the
the
platform
will
act
like
a
marketplace,
so
the
borrower
will
have
the
option
to
to
create
a
loan
package
with
one
individual
asset
or
create
a
bundle
with
multiple
assets,
and
he
will
set
the
terms
like
the
the
loan
value,
the
wrong
duration
and
the
borrow
amount.
C
So
so
that's
like
for
the
first
version
and
on
the
second
version,
we'll
try
to
automate
as
much
as
possible
the
valuation
process,
which
is
quite
tricky
to
do,
because
most
of
the
assets
have
a
subjective
value
and
because
the
actual
market
is
based
on
scarcity,
you'll
never
actually
be
able
to
like
objectively
evaluate
a
game
or
like.
C
Let's
say
if
we
look
like
with
games
like
the
entire
game
or
the
the
actual
asset
from
the
game
or
like
the
the
assets
that
an
artist
has
so
at
this
point
is
quite
quite
complicated,
and
we
also
want
to
introduce
pool
lending
in
the
system
to
automate
as
much
the
the
entire
process
and
be
able
to
offer
fast
loans
to
the
users.
C
So
that's
like
the
the
main
overview
of
the
project
and
we
are
actually
looking
at
mesa
for
our
ideas,
so
we
are
planning
to
do
an
idea
of
somewhere
sometime
this
month
and
yeah.
We
think
mesa
is
a
great
product
and
we
would
love
to
to
work
with
you
guys.
C
So
I
think
it
would
be
better
if
we'd
have
more
like
a
conversation
on
all
this
on
this
subject,
rather
than
then
like
a
long
presentation.
A
Yeah
thanks
bogdan
and
I'll
just
say
a
few
things,
because
bogdan
and
I
and
martin
a
little
bit.
Also
we've
been
talking
about
the
project
in
general,
and
you
know
you
know
we're
working
on
a
new
version
of
mesa,
which
would
hope
will
eventually
be
hope,
new
and
improved,
but
bogdan
and
the
team
are
aware
of
they've
seen
the
different
ideas
in
the
past
and
things
that
have
happened
on
the
original
mesa
using
those
protocol.
V1
and
you
know,
are
aware
of
the
risks
with
it.
A
There
are
actions
that
can
be
taken
to
to
like,
like
minimize
some
of
those
risks
as
well,
and
so
and-
and
I
think
bogdan
and
the
team
are
like
are
also
like
quite
aware
of
gnosis
in
general,
and
you
know,
and
and
the
different
products
that
they've
made
in
general.
I,
like
we've,
been
talking
a
lot
about
nfts.
Also
here
like
the
lending
and
borrowing
like
will
become
a
very
popular
thing
like
it
will
become
more
integrated
into
d5.
A
This
will
eventually
happen
now,
there's
not
a
good
platform
that
does
it
and
it
becomes
harder
for
the
same
reason.
We
just
talked
about
of
like
fungible
versus
non-fungible,
but,
like
john
mentioned
before,
there's
going
to
be
better
and
better
ways
to
like,
like
like
live
value,
different
types
of
nfts
and
as
that
happens,
lending
and
borrowing
against
those
seems
like
a
like
a
no-brainer.
That
will
happen.
A
So
it
seems
it's
that,
like
this
is
an
project
like
in
a
space
that
has
a
pretty
big
future
and
I
think
it's
still
early
days
and
so
like
obviously
bogdan
and
team,
they
wanna
they
have
a
token
in
mind.
They
they
are,
they
have
been
bootstrapped,
I
understand
up
until
now,
and
so
they
have
a
plan
to
do
a
raise
and,
and
have
a
token
there's
a
few
tokens
that
are
out
that
are
out
there
in
the
market,
but
like
a
very,
very
small
amount
and
yeah.
A
B
I
guess
how
how
how
far
along
are
you
in
designing
basically
the
sale,
tokenomics
and
dates,
even
the
that
you
want
to
do
this
and
yeah?
I
guess
the
other
the
other
side
of
this.
If
this
would
be
us
and
martin
saying
like,
when
will
you
want
to
use
the
the
mesa
version
1
or
mesa
version
2?
That
just
depends
on
your
timeline.
C
So
right
now
we
are
in
the
process
of
raising
a
private
sale
and,
depending
on
how
well
this
process
grows,
we
will
look
at
the
the
ideal,
so
that
is
like
a
rough
corrupt
deadline
somewhere
like
in
the
second
part
of
this
month.
E
D
D
C
Yeah,
sorry,
I
understand
the
question
so,
first
of
all,
if
you
look
at
the
actual
token,
the
amount
of
shareholders
is
not
that
big.
So
there
are
not
that
many
shareholders
we
basically
distributed
the
token,
mostly
as
an
air
drop
to
our
stator
nxt
holders.
C
D
C
C
Scenario:
it's
like
a
very
small
risk
for
some
other
part
of
some
some
other
user
to
run
because
by
default
there
will
not
be
like
a
high
amount
of
tokens
that
are
currently
distributed.
C
Okay,
so
users
are
unable
to
buy
like
on
uni
swap
or
on
other
markets.
So
we
just
did
like
some
small
airdrop.
C
Yeah
so
yeah
we
just
put
like
very
little
amount
in
liquidity
just
to
create
a
pool,
but
you
cannot
actually
buy.
I
don't
know
10
each
worth
of
tokens
or
something
like
that.
Okay,
it's
like
a
very
small
amount.
D
A
Oh
yeah,
so
so
we
had
bogdan,
he
did
post
some
information
on
our
on
a
forum.
I
actually
don't
think
like
this
tiny
amount
of
like
ex
tokens
that
are
out
there
like.
If
it's
so
small
and
there's
no
liquidity
on
you
swap,
I
don't
think
that
should
really
affect
a
mesa,
sale
yeah.
I
also
wonder.
F
C
F
And
with
me,
in
the
current
version
of
mesa,
when
people
do
sales,
there's
a
bit
about
people
were
doing
or
projects
were
doing,
you
know
a
sale
over
time
with
like
different
brackets
and
like
if
there
was
free
floating
supply,
then
like
that
came
in
and
like
dumped
on
the
sale.
Basically,
that
could
be
kind
of
like
awkward
for
the
project.
F
I'm
not
sure
like
martin
would
know
better,
but
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
as
much
of
a
problem
in
the
newer
version
that
will
be
coming
out
for
mesa
like
the
relaunch
but
yeah.
That
was
just
like
a
consideration.
I
think
something
to
think
about.
If
it's
a
small
amount
or
it's
locked
up
or
whatever,
it's
probably
not,
that
significant.
A
And
then
I
guess
in
general,
for
the
new
people
here
and
and
also
like
in
general,
like
if
dxdow
community,
you
know
you
know,
is
supportive
of
this
project
after
we'll
have
a
little
discussion
in
the
forums
and
obviously
you
join.
This
call.
The
the
next
steps
would
be
like
you.
A
You
have
like
an
outline
for
your
for,
like
the
dates
and
the
size
and
things
with
the
ido,
and
we
would
we
would
basically
do
a
on-chain
proposal
to
have
that
token,
added
to
the
mesa
token
whitelist,
so
that
it
shows
up
on
mesa
in
the
drop-down
list,
and
then
there
could
be.
A
You
obviously
would
have
like
your
own
marketing
plan
around
the
sale
and
then
potentially
dx
dao
could
participate
in
spreading
the
awareness
of
that
sale
as
well,
and
then
the
sale
happens
and
then
there's
like
we
probably
want
to
also
talk
with
gnosis
about
like
or
or
be
aware
of,
the
of
the
extra
steps
that
need
to
be
taken
to
put
in
the
orders,
like
don't
have
the
orders
sitting
in
there
way
ahead
of
time,
but
you
kind
of
put
in
the
orders
very
like
closer
to
the
when
the
sale
is
going
to
happen,
so
that
the
the
the
attack
vector
of
like
with
the
that
happened
with
api
three
doesn't
happen,
which
I
think
can
be
avoided.
F
I
have
a
question
if
we
still
have
time
for
it,
yeah
go
for
it
so
for
the
nft
I
think,
like
doing
lending
against
nfts
makes
a
ton
of
sense.
I
mean
people
blend
against.
You
know
individual
objects
in
the
real
world
all
the
time.
F
One
question
I
have
is
like:
how
do
you
expect
people
to
value
the
nfts
or
is
there
a
model
yeah?
That's.
C
So
our
process,
especially
with
the
automation
process,
is
to
actually
value
the
artist
or
the
game,
because
if
we
take
like
a
bigger
picture,
if
we
take
like
a
look
on
the
bigger
pic
on
the
bigger
picture
level-
and
we
see
like,
for
example,
if
we
compare
like
a
set
of
10
games
by
volume
and
by
by
trading
activity
in
the
case
where
the
borrower
doesn't
actually
repay
the
loan,
I
think
that
if
we
follow
this
process
and
whitelist
only
games
that
are
popular
and
have
have
volume
compared,
of
course,
to
the
other
games
from
the
market.
C
I
think
that
we
can
increase
our
chances
to
resell
the
asset
and
break
even
and
also
like
we
can.
We
can
optimize
the
entire
process
based
on
the
based
on
the
loan
to
value
ratio
and
on
the
interest
rate,
to
make
sure
that
we
only
need
to
sell
like
a
part
of
the
assets
or
like
in
the
in
the
peer-to-peer
example.
C
The
lender
only
needs
to
sell
only
a
part
of
the
assets
to
break,
even
so
regarding
the
price,
I
think
that
we
should
let
the
market
evaluate
the
the
actual
price
of
the
assets,
and
we
take
a
look
mostly
at
games
and
maybe
like
a
deeper
look
to
see
if
there
is
some
kind
of
wash
trading
in
the
back
when
they're,
trying
to
in
the
case
that
some
some
some
user
tries
to
manipulate
the
market
right.
F
C
Yeah
yeah,
but
I
think,
like
I
get
the
point
like
you're
trying
to
evaluate
as
it's
one
against
each
other,
so
that
makes
sense,
but
it's
just
a
subjective
price
like
even
if
you
look
at
real
art
or
like,
if
you
look
at
luxury
watches
it's
not
like,
based
on
the
actual
amount
of
work
that
you
do
to
create
that
specific
asset.
Even
if
it's
a
painting
like
if
you
look
at
bensky
like
it's
the
popular
artist
here,
it
doesn't
matter
what
he
paints
right.
C
He
could
just
throw
a
line
on
a
painting
and
it
would
sell
with
two
million
dollars
or
something
like
that,
and
actually
it
was.
It
was
a
fun
thing
like
he
created
the
painting
and
after
the
option
was
after
the
auction
has
ended,
he
actually
destroyed
the
painting.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you,
bogdan
yeah,
let's
stay
in
touch
and
you
know
you
know,
feel
free
to
post
in
the
key
base
or
to
continue
the
dow
talk
topic
next
up.
We
have
joseph
from
token
inside
joseph.
Are
you
here
yeah?
I'm
here?
Can
you.
H
Hear
me
yeah:
we
can
hear
you
nice
to
meet
you
here,
gentlemen,
and
this
is
actually
my
first
time
joining
this
kind
of
meeting.
H
So
it's
really
new
for
me
and
okay,
let
me
make
a
brief
of
our
company
and
token
insight
is
a
technology
driven
financial
blockchain
company
and
we
focused
on
data
and
analytics,
so
we
work
to
continuously
provide
ratings,
research,
data
and
consulting
services,
focus
on
the
great
china
europe
market
and
including
asian
parts,
some
asian
part
and
as
one
of
the
most
influential
digit
asset
rating
and
research
institution
token
inside
has
issued
more
than
400
projects.
H
Writting
reports
and
hundreds
of
publications
focused
on
the
industry,
research
and
our
data
readings
and
research
reports
have
been
published
on
more
than
I
I
have
to
say
it's
like
7
70
platforms
globally
and
those
are
include
the
corn
market
cap
coin
gecko
and
missouri
delta
binance
info,
and
also
we
have.
H
H
H
H
Since
I
know
I
know
you
guys
started
like
2019
and
you
have
multiple
you,
governments,
multiple
decentralized
projects,
so
we
can
integrate
all
those
projects,
data
in
our
website
and
we
can
do
initial
rating
and
we
can
form
written
reports
for
for
dxd
token,
and
also,
if
you
have
any
market
needs,
I
we
can
assist
you
with
it.
E
B
Like
I
totally
think
that
a
strategic,
strategic
kind
of
like
goal
that
we
should
have
is
to
have
either
you
know
subdial
squad
or
something
for
the
asian
market.
It's
pretty
big,
and
you
know
I
guess
you
know.
Powers
here
has
also
lived
in
china.
The
chinese
market
is
big
completely
different
from
the
western
one
and
it
has
a
lot
of
potential
yeah.
I
need
to
figure
out
like
what's
kind
of
like
the
long-term
plan
for
that,
and
how
do
we
execute
it?
Yeah.
H
Yeah
sure
I
can
I
can
actually
I
can
share
some
proposals
since
it's
midnight
here
and
I
got
all
my
stuff
in
my
in
my
computer-
speak
my
company's
computer,
so
I
can
share
by
like
tomorrow
morning
to
keenan.
H
H
Great
great
great
so
I
mean
yeah,
we
can
actually
be
the
door
set
for
your
chinese
marketing
spending.
Since
we
are
we,
we,
our
brand
image,
is
quite
big
in
the
chinese
market,
and
our
report
is
is
has
a
very
strong
reference
value
and
the
credibility.
So
it
attracts
lots
of
high-value
clients
in
china,
not
only
investors,
but
also
like
some
industry
fellows
who
works
in
the
crypto
field,
and
we
have
actually
some.
H
F
Just
to
be
clear,
like
I
don't
think,
dxnow
has
paid
done
any
of
the
kind
of
like
pay
to
play
like
pay
for
listings
or
that
kind
of
thing.
But
I
think
what
is
important
is
like
having
a
presence
in
china
in
asia
and
making
sure
people
know
what
we're
about
and
know
how
to
get
get
involved
in
that
kind
of
thing.
F
So
I
think
if
the
focus
is
more
about
providing
information
and
like
engagement
in
the
asian
market,
for
like
users
and
like
members
and
and
less
so
on,
not
just
on
listings
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I
think
that
could
be
good.
H
Yeah
and
I
actually
googled
of
the
article,
the
chinese
written
article
about
you
guys
it's
not
that
much.
I
can
read
one
from
the
2019
and
another
one
is
from
last
year.
Then
there's
no
more
information.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
big
gap
for
you
guys
to
to
to
to
know
china
better
and
for
the
chinese
users
to
know
you
guys
better.
I
think
it's
going
to
be.
We
can't
work
on
that.
I
think.
I
H
I
see
you
have
the
omen
and
the
swapper
mesa
and
all
those
projects
we
can
just
do
that
separately
and
get
a
introduction
for
the
dx
style
this
organization.
I
think
yes,
we
can
do
that
and
we
can
just
end
analytic
listing
all
those
projects
by
their
data
by
all
the
projects,
data
and
make
form
multiple
reports
for
the
each
projects.
H
Okay,
so
if
you
guys
have
any
questions,
just
feel
free
to
drop
me
messages
and
yeah,
I
can.
I
will
make
the
document
documentation
already
prepared
tomorrow
and
I
will
share
it
to
canaan.
H
J
I
I
have
a
question:
do
you
yeah,
can
you
help
with
like
press
releases
for
asian
communities
or
or
or
can
you
are
you
only
do
you
have
connections
more
than
like
yeah,
for
let's
say
chinese
media
or
something
like
that.
H
And
personally
I
have
some
contact
of
the
media
guys
and
yeah.
I
can
I'm
glad
to
help
you
out
with
that.
J
Yeah,
that's
awesome.
Yeah
I
mean
yeah,
we
could
yeah,
we
could.
We
could
explore
stuff
here.
We
definitely
need
that
connection.
H
J
B
Next
up
is
venk
here,
yeah.
Thank
you.
So
venky
had
a
few
ideas
around.
Basically
the
diligence
for
ideos
kind
of
discussed
this
for
a
few
moments
before
the
call
started,
but.
A
Before
thank
you
before
you
jump
in
just
the
back
background,
when
you
know,
when
mesa
was
the
hot
ido
platform
and
we
had
lots
of
incoming
interest,
you
know
in
in
mid
2020
and
things
we
like.
We
really.
We
talked
about
ideas
like
having
a
minimum
set
of
criteria.
Obviously
we
don't
want
to
make
sure
projects
are
not
scammy,
we
want
them,
but
it's,
but
it
actually
it's
kind
of
permissionless.
So
we
want
to
be
an
open
platform.
A
That's
available
for
most
people,
assuming
they're,
not
a
scam
and
dxdow,
doesn't
want
to
support
anything.
That
looks
you
know
off,
but
we
we
hadn't,
we
have
never,
and
then
it
kind
of
died
down
a
little
bit
and
we
so
we
haven't
really
put
this
process
in
place
and
thanks.
Venky
has
been
helping
out.
A
You
know
with
some
biz
dev
things
and
he's
done
such
a
great
job,
with
like
the
structure
of
the
okrs,
that
it
made
sense
and
he
was
getting
involved
in
some
of
the
discussions
around
some
of
these
new
potential
ideos
and
things
so
he's
gonna.
A
But
it's
like
where
it's
the
idea
is
to
start
this
start
this
formation
of
a
process
that,
like
will
be
very
transparent
and
easy
for
people
internally
and
externally,
to
understand,
and
so
I
don't
know,
thank
you
if
you
want
to
like
run
through
some
of
the
ideas
you
had
at
least
the
initial
ones.
G
G
Yeah
so
yeah,
so
I
have
I'm
just
trying
to
consolidate
all
the
thoughts
that
I
have
in
my
mind
and
talk
to
martin
and
then
I
have
some
questions
from
our
discussions
and
then
trying
to
come
up
with
an
action
list
of
what
needs
to
be
done.
So
basically,
so,
first
step
whenever
any
project
that
approaches
us
is
basically
like
making
a
downtown
post
and
asking
them
to
write
about
the
summary
roadmap
roadmap,
where
they
are
in
the
road
map
and
what
do
they
expect
from
dxtel
and
then
yeah?
G
They
hop
onto
the
call
and
then
they
present
the
project
later
on.
I
think
it
is
good
if
yeah,
if
dxdot
also
participates
in,
if
if
it
is
a
project
that
is
backed
by
dx,
dom
like,
for
instance,
alpres
for
instance,
then
we
do
testing.
We
do
we
do
check
if
the
product
is
actually
ready
to
market,
we
can
check
if
the
products
understand
who
the
competitors
are
and
how
do
they
differentiate
from
the
competitors,
basically
trying
to
figure
out
the
product
market
fit?
G
How
decentralized
is
this
product?
It
is
also
good
for
us
in
terms
of
backing
projects
that
are
decentralized.
What
are
what
is
the
tokenomics
house?
Is
contracts
available
if
there's
been
any
audits
on
the
contracts
done
and
yeah,
somebody
has
had
it
here
so
be
transparent
about
who
owns
the
token
before
the
idea.
G
So
I'm
just
listing
down
items-
and
I
would
probably
reach
out
to
you
guys
and
then
get
this
list
better,
and
then
I
was
just
speaking
to
martin
just
before
the
call
where
we
were
trying
to
see
how
bounds
and
other
ideo
providers
were
doing
it.
So
do
we
have
any
non-curated
ideos
and
then
we
have
any
curated
ideas.
Do
we
have
to
have
some
sort
of
differentiation
between
that?
G
If
it
is
a
non-curated
or
do
we
even
have
a
non-curated
id
on
the
roadmap,
if
it
is
curated
ideo
I
mean
the
rep
holders
would
vote
for
the
idea
and
then
what
is
the
legal
implication
of
the
votes?
Can
a
person
that
is
voting.
This
can
take
part
in
the
sale
and
how
do
we
define
how
distributed
is
the
sorting
just
just
trying
to
sketch
out
thoughts
here,
and
I
would
I
would
reach
out
to
you
guys
and
yeah.
D
It's
important
to
start
thinking
about
this
kind
of
stuff
because
we
have
like
to
be
ready
if
there's
an
inflow
of
ideal
things
coming
to
us,
and
I
think
we
should
like
think
you
know
having.
Maybe
we
can
turn
it
around
think
like
in
labels,
we
want
to
give
to
ideos.
You
know
like
officially
support
the
geek
style,
sale
or
like
and
then
maybe
go
backwards
and
think
what
what's?
What's
the
most,
what
fits
to
these
labels
or
like?
D
Maybe
we
have
several
labels
like
decently,
high
decentralization
or
whatever
it
is,
but
maybe
it
was
easier
to
be
to
turn
it
around
and
think
yeah.
What's
what
we
expect
expect
if
we
put
like
a
decentralized
label
on
this
one
and
yeah,
there
are
different
things
to
explore
and
because
I
think
many
of
us
take
part
in
different
sales,
it
makes
sense
that
that
we
just
collect
ideas
and
then
maybe
sort
it
later
in
a
later
stage.
A
Oh
yeah,
no,
that
makes
sense
this.
A
What
we've
seen
in
the
past
this
process
of
of
incoming
interest,
especially
when
it's
when
it's
hot,
is
a
is
like
a
it's.
A
like
a
it's
like
a
touchy
process
like
it's.
Sometimes
it's
very
hard
to
tell
the
difference
between
a
project
that
is
legit
versus
almost
legit
versus,
like
not
legit,
and
so
having
a
structure
in
place.
That
at
least
makes
a
certain
characteristics.
A
Very
clear
is
a
way
for
dx
dow
to
be
open
without,
like
you
know,
dx
dao
is
a
is
believes
in
like
permissionless
and
open
openness
and
things,
and
so
it's
not
it's
not
like
it's.
We
don't
always
want
to
be
the
deciding
like.
Is
this
like
going
to
be
a
success,
a
successful
project,
or
this
token,
and
things
like
that,
rather
than
be
an
open
platform,
but
at
the
same
time
prevent
the
like
the
scam
projects
and
so
there's
a
fine
line
there.
A
So
having
a
having
a
structure
is
going
to
be
really
important,
and
then
I,
like
your
label,
idea
of
assigning
labels
to
to
different
projects
anyway,
yeah
this.
D
B
Yeah,
I
think
this
is
great.
Maybe
I
guess
this
should
also
be
like
a
dow
talk
post
and
then
we
can
iterate
on
that
there
and
yeah.
I
kind
of
feel
like
these
things
should
have
deadline
for
something
that
we
have
and
okay.
This
is
like
version.
One
of
this
is
how
we
qualify
an
ideal
and
we'll
have
iterations
in
that
too,
but
just
to
have
like,
I
don't
know,
a
deadline
till
the
end
of
february
that
you
know
we
issue
this.
I
J
Yeah,
I
have
one
thing
to
just
go
about
this.
I
think
the
times
we
had
back
then
when,
when
we
asked
the
projects
to
go
post
on
on
talk,
maybe
we
could
do
that
back
then,
but
now,
when
there's
options,
people
are
lazy.
I
think
we
can
lose
a
lot
of
like
potential
good
projects.
Maybe
we
should
do
the
first
step
like
and
maybe
some
don't
don't
want
to
talk
about
the
stuff
publicly
directly?
Maybe
they
just
want
to
ask
about
stuff
from
us.
First,
they
want
to
compare
us
to
others.
J
I
Yeah,
no,
I
mean,
I
think
that
makes
sense.
I
was
gonna
say
it's
actually.
This
is
probably
like
a
broader
funnel
from
our
like
opportunities
that
we've
been
talking
about
with
like
kind
of
the
air
table
and
that
so
I
guess
this
would
be
like
a
subset
of
that
funnel
and
then
for
the
opportunities
things.
I
think
exactly
what
that's
saying
about
some
of
those
are
like
proactive
and
some
of
those
are
incoming
and
so
yeah
I
would
imagine
it
would
probably
maybe
fit
through
that
existing
structure.
I
Or
is
this
like
a
separate
flow
because
for
rfc
stator
came
on
and
they
would
be
potentially
an
ido
there,
and
so
I
guess
I
came
in
through
the
opportunities
one
and
we
have
a
lot
of
different
ones
that
are
like.
Is
this
an
investment?
Is
this
going
to
be
an
ido?
A
Yeah,
it's
all
under
the
same
big
umbrella,
but
like
ido
potential
ido
is
a
very
specific
piece
of
opportunities
right,
it's
very
specific
to
mesa
it.
It's
it's!
It's
separate
category.
Yes,
there
are.
There
are
potential
projects
like
al
press
that
you
know
we
that
we
have
in
like
the
incubation
category,
which
then
could
eventually
lead
to
an
ideal
or
a
token
offering
as
well
but
there.
But
what
we've
seen
in
the
past
is
like
a
whole
list
of
projects
that
or
just
wanted
to
do.
A
An
ido
and
mesa
was
the
platform,
and
so
now
I
agree
with
that.
There
are
more
options
out
there,
but
at
the
same
time,
dx
dow
is
pretty
is
pretty
open.
So
if
the,
if
that
project
is
not
willing
to
publicly
share
like
on
this
call
certain
pieces
of
information
it
it,
it
fits,
it
might
be
harder
to
fit
into
the
dx
dao
mesa
ido
process,
but
we'll
see
as
these
come
along,
but
I,
but
it
may
take
going
out
in
recruiting
projects
to
mesa
when,
when
it's
appropriate.
Yes,.
J
Yeah,
this
is
why
I'm
saying
it
might
take.
Maybe
the
second
or
third
talk
to
talk
openly
about
the
details,
because
maybe
it's
not
necessary
for
them
to
talk
details
if
they're
not
even
sure
if
they
want
to
do
the
idea
with
us
right,
so
they
they
might
have
questions
about
now
like
details
about
misa
v2
is
very
unclear.
J
A
That
makes
sense
when
we
have
a
product
that
is
ready
for
for
ideos
like
there
should
be
marketing
material
and
benefits
and,
like
things
related
like
like
that,
that
can
be
sent
out
where,
when
someone
comes
to
mesa
ido
website,
all
that's
very
clear
why
you
should
use
mesa
versus
another
platform.
So
once
there
is
a
product
there
will
be
selling
like
that
product
will
sell
to
projects
right.
But
you
can't
sell
that
at
this
point.
So
right
now,
it's
handling
incoming
interest
rather
than
selling
the
selling
the
product
versus
other
options.
J
There
is
like
we
have
interest
already
now
so,
but
I
I
think
I
think
like
we
don't
want
to
be
the
second
choice
here,
because
someone
else
is
full
right
like
if
paul
casta
is
not
responding
to
someone
and
they
feel
hey.
Let's
go
to
miso.
Just
because
of
that.
J
I
like,
I
believe
that
we
can
build
something
that
that
makes
projects
come
to
us
and-
and
maybe
we
can't
explain
it
right-
maybe
it's
just
the
trust
factor
and-
and
they
want
to
know
more
like
is
this
the
same
team
that
did
visa
misa
versus
one
like
we,
people
don't
know
that
it
was
the
style
right
and
then
comes
the
exam
say,
hey
misa
v2,
so
it
might
be
just
yeah,
they
might
not
even
know
it's
us.
I
Yeah,
I
think
we're
kind
of
I
think,
there's
like
two
separate
things
here.
There's
like
the
deal
flow
process
and
then
there's
like
the
decision
process
right.
So
the
deal
full
process
is
like.
How
do
we,
like?
You
know
whether
it's
know
about
the
next
great
projects
or
like
have
them
know
about
us
like?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we
have
strong
deal
flow
and
then,
secondly,
it's
like?
How
do
we
make
decisions
about
that,
and
I
think
I
agree
with
kind
of
what
martin
has
in
there.
I
A
We're
not
right
yeah
yeah,
so
when
we
have
something
we
can
like
put
on
a
page
and
be
like
look
at
this
awesome,
you
know
first
version
of
mesa
ido.
We
then
we
can
put
that
out
into
the
community
right,
but
it's
hard
like
I
right
now
we're
just
handling
incoming
interest.
I
guess
we're
not
recruiting
right.
D
We
are
not,
but
in
the
way
it
would
be
nice
if
you
have
this
kind
of
stuff
ready
if
you
have
the
mvp
at
the
same
moment,
we
have
like
a
pre
yeah.
That's
why
we
start
now
because
then
we
have
like
we
are
ready,
then,
because
if
we
then
start
thinking
about
this,
then
you
know
like
too
late.
If
there
is
some
traction,
you
know.
D
B
Yeah
all
right
kind
of
short
on
time.
Chris,
do
you
want
to
present
the
idea
of
okay.
I
Yeah,
I
think
just
give
a
little
bit
of
an
update,
maybe
on
something
that
explored
a
little
bit.
So
I
had
a
call
about
a
week
ago
with
hart
from
uma
project,
and
there
were
maybe
two
possibilities
where
deex,
dao
and
uma
could
team
up.
One
is
on
omen
oracles,
so
they
have
what
they're
calling
an
optimistic
oracle
and
the
way
you
describe
it.
I
It's
basically
like
reality.ed,
plus
claros
combined,
and
so
they
have
the
token
holders
actually
vote
on
that,
and
so
they
use
this
for
their
synthetic
asset
creation
platform
now,
but
it
could
potentially
be
used
for
a
lot
of
different
things.
I
So
maybe,
as
we
look
for
omen
to
get
more
involved
with
different
oracle
providers
like
we
could
think
about
teaming
up
with
them,
and
then
second
opportunity
is
on
the
synthetic
asset
possibility
and
for
this
it
would
be
using
their
synthetic
acid
crater
to
mint
any
synthetic
asset
that
we
could
then
have
on
swapper.
So
the
interesting
thing
about
uma,
the
their
their
program
now
is.
They
have
what's
called
a
developer
mining
program,
so
they're,
basically
paying
people
in
uma
rewards
to
mint
synthetic
assets.
I
So
what
we
could
do
is
potentially
mint
a
synthetic
asset,
whether
it's
silver
or
gme
stock
and
then
put
that
on
swapper
and
then
actually
just
direct.
The
umer
rewards
to
the
lps
on
swapper
as
a
way
of
incentivizing
that
so
I
just
think
we
should
be
thinking
about
like
what
are
the
type
of
maybe
synthetic
assets
that
we
use.
Yam
finance
has
been
doing
this
themselves,
so
they
have
a
u-gas
token,
which
was,
I
think
it
was
actually
expired
yesterday.
I
So
it
was
the
price
of
gas
future
price
of
gas
they
issued
in
like
mid-december,
and
it
was
the
future
price
of
gas
on
january
31st.
So
people
could
use
that
potentially
to
hedge,
their
their
gas
cost,
and
then
they
just
launched
one
called
a
like
volatility
index,
which
is
based
on
kind
of
like
d5
tokens,
or
something
like
that.
So
potentially
we
could
do
this
for
a
lot
of
different
things.
I
It
could
be
something
like
the
d5
market
cap
percentage
of
overall
using
the
coin
gecko
one,
but
I
think
it'd
just
be
an
opportunity
to
have
some
type
of
like
incentivized
pools
on
on
swapper
and
have
something
kind
of
interesting
and
unique
to
bring
people
to
swapper
so
yeah.
Those
are
just
kind
of
the
two
two
things
that
maybe
uma
can
can
provide
and.
A
I
guess
the
other
one
other
interesting
thing
chris.
Would
you
kind
of
talk
to
me
about
is
in
general?
Creating
synthetic
assets
is
like
a
kind
of
a
gray
area
right.
It's
like
centralized
counterparties
like
uma
themselves
are
not
really
ideally
creating
the
synthetic
assets.
You
want,
ideally
decentralized
taos,
creating
synthetic
assets
because
there's
a
there
is
a
gray
area
and
so
dx
dow
for
dx.
Now
it's
an
opportunity
that
other
centralized
entities
probably
can't
take
advantage
of.
I
Yeah-
and
I
think
if
you
look
at
like
ftx,
for
instance,
is
like
actually
playing
this
very
well.
You
know
there
and
drama
was
talking
about
this.
I
think
in
the
trading
channel
last
week
and
talking
about
using
mirror
basically
to
mint
to
mint
gma,
gme
tokens
or
gamestop
tokens
on
ethereum
and
then
I'd
be
able
to
trade
them,
and
so
the
question
is
of
course
like
who
is
going
to
fund
that
synthetic
right,
because
it
has
to
be
over
collateralized
to
a
point
and
the
person
that's
funding.
I
It
is
actually
taking
a
short
exposure,
and
so
it's
actually
pretty
difficult.
I
think
to
find
people
to
fund
these
synthetic
assets
or
find
a
bunch
of
counterparties
to
do
that,
but,
as
like
ftx
is,
is
demonstrating
they're
creating
these
synthetic
assets,
maybe
they're
hedging
their
exposure
elsewhere,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they're
making
money
off
of
trading
fees
right,
they're,
getting
people
to
come
to
their
platform
because
they're
trading,
something
interesting.
I
And
so
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
made
for
jake's
dow,
because
it's
a
decentralized
entity
to
be
able
to
like
fund
these
synthetic
assets
right
and
you
you
could
actually
or
the
way
that
their
tokenomics
work
you're
supposed
to
be
able
to
earn
some
reward
for
for
minting
those.
But
really
the
the
benefit
would
come
from
trade.
The
trading
fees
that
we
would
get
potentially
on
swapper,
because
it
would
give
some
type
of
it
would
be
like
an
interesting
product.
I
It
would
be
something
that
would
draw
people
to
the
platform
and
then
they
would
like
be
trading
fees,
and
this.
I
Is
like
what
any
big
investment
bank
do?
They
create
a
product
and
then
they
are
gonna,
make
money
off
of
like
the
service
and
the
trade
fees.
I
I
I
But
I
think,
like
this
synthetic
acid
one
yeah,
if
we
have
an
idea,
maybe
of
a
couple
different
things
we'd
like
to
play
around
with
then
we
could
take
it
back
to
uma
and
then
potentially
see
what
type
of
developer
mining
rewards
they'd
be
willing
willing
to
do,
and
I
think
that
could
kind
of
we
could
drive
it
from
there.
So
I'll
yeah,
maybe
I'll,
create
a
dial
talk
post
on,
like
maybe
some
cool
products
that
we
could
potentially
create.
B
All
right
any
other
comments
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
topic.
B
All
right,
so
we
have
neyman
and
mdt
here
from
harmony.
So
there
was
a
proposal
by
emily
and
that's
a
nice
session
in
the
omni
channel
on
key
base
with
feedback.
Yeah
neymar.
K
Hi
everybody
yeah,
so
we
have
two
things.
Actually
we
didn't
propose
this
in
the
agenda.
I
think
one
of
the
guys
from
who
who
tested
our
post
proposed,
but
we're
super
happy
that
it
was
done
obviously,
and
we
have
option
now
to
discuss
two
things.
One
of
those
is
this
testing
session
with
lots
of
people
ahead
in
our
channel.
K
It
was
a
friday
friday
after
midnight
for
us,
so
I
was
not
there,
but
mdt
was
there
and
if
you
want
to
discuss
that,
he
should
be
the
one
talking
or
we
also
proposed
a
day
before,
like
a
feature
extra
feature
that
we
want
to
build
for.
Dx
dial,
which
is
dow
accounts
for
alphas,
so
that
dx,
tao
and
other
dows
could
have
their
own
account
and
can
have
their
own
official
publications
and
stuff
like
that,
and
we
can
also
discuss
vet.
A
Hey
name
in
this
guy
here,
so
basically
the
reason
I
wanted
this
topic
and
you
guys
to
be
on
this
call
today,
is
because
this
is
what
what
we've
learned
from
the
past
with
dxdow.
Is
you
know
you?
You
also
presented
an
opportunity
for
for
dx
dow
to
be
a
part
of
the
like.
A
You
know,
launch
and
growth
of
of
al
press
and
albany
and
like
be
a
incubation
and
maybe
investor,
like
future
token
potential,
token
holder,
and
so
if,
if
dx
style
thinks,
this
is
a
product
that
is
useful
and
valuable
like
dx
dial
is
a
community
has
has
has
a
hard
time
getting
to
like
a
decision
like
and
and
things
kind
of
sit
around.
A
I
we
don't
want
this
to
like
just
sit
around
and
not
get
formal
and
hard,
and
so
if
anyone
has
any
thoughts
about
because
we've
had
scenarios
in
the
past,
where
these
ideas
were
interesting
and
then
nothing
happens
and
then
it
fizzles
out
so
revisiting
it
each
each
week
and
making
sure
we
we
take.
Next
steps
is
like
what
was
important.
I
think
for
me
and
so
hearing
from
the
community
about
like
like
what
should
be.
A
The
next
step
is
the
most
important
thing
for
me,
like
and
and
and
the
fact
that
everyone
got
to
try
it
out
and
and
and
give
feedback,
and
things
is
an
additional
positive,
but
it's
basically
like.
What's
what's
next
hard
step
to
take.
K
God
I
mean
thank
you
for
helping
us,
you
know
advanced,
we
we
didn't,
we,
we
shoot
a
party
for
the
with
ourselves
to
edit
us
to
the
agenda,
but
so
thank
you.
K
I
mean
we
had
another
proposal
which
we
published
like
in
the
dow
talk
and
also
I
present
like
a
week
ago,
the
next
hard
step
from
us,
which
would
be
initial
investment.
It
was
not
investment.
I
think
it's
like
founding
the
bringing
albus
to
release
stage
which
would
take
about
two
months,
and
the
budget
was
a
fifteen
thousand
which
we
asked
to
be
paid
in
two
times
once
in
the
beginning,
and
once
once
the
product
is
ready.
Was
this
the
kind
of
actual
next
step
that
you
refer
to.
A
So
I
I
didn't
even
know
that
you
were
going,
you
guys
were
gonna,
be
on
this
call.
It
was
really
like
we
we
want
the
we
want
the
community
members
here
to.
Basically,
I
wanted
people
to
talk
about
whether
or
not
like
this
proposal
should
move
forward,
basically
and
and
happy
to
have
you
like
it's
an
open
conversation
like
maybe
people
could
talk
about
the
positives
or
negatives
to
to
funding
this
proposal.
A
Yeah,
I
guess
john
or
like
chris,
you
guys
kind
of
like
we've
had
we,
you
you're,
aware
of,
like
we've,
had
scenarios
like
this
in
the
past
and
they
kind
of
fizzle
out
so
like
I,
we
dx
now
is
not
very
good
at
like
closing
new
opportunities
like
this,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
what
I
wanted
to
make
happen.
Yes
make
like
get
to
a
yes
or
no
decision
to
fund
this
and
then
and
then
like,
then,
you
can
figure
out
next
steps
from
there.
F
I
mean,
I
think
I
feel
good.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
actually
test
it
out,
yet
so
apologies
for
that
I
mean
at
a
high
level.
It
sounds
good
to
me
right,
like
decentralized
blogging
is
like
a
problem
that
case
now
has
right
and
if-
and
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
geekstown
to
like
find
people
and
teams
working
on
the
problems
that
we
see
firsthand
and
like
help
them,
like
you
know,
by
being
a
customer
and
potentially
also
funding
investing
in
those
products.
F
F
I
Yeah
I
had
run
through
I
I
kind
of
done
like
a
first
post
on
friday
and
actually
kind
of
used
the
first
post
to
express
some
of
my
thoughts
on
the
platforms
of
your.
Should
you
kind
of
see
the
first
initial
thoughts.