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B
What's
up
everyone
thanks
for
coming
to
the
bishop,
call
thanks
for
showing
up
early
most
of
you,
so
I
reached
out
to
I
think
it's
either
b5
prime
or
d5
rave,
the
one
that
cooper
turley
runs
and
they
have
a
guy
working
on
listing
the
dx
tau
as
one
of
the
dows
to
show
up
on
there
and
I'll
be
working
with
them
and
just
making
sure
that
they
have
the
you
know
the
copy
correct.
B
We
have
an
agenda
today
that
has
some
stuff
that
nylon
wants
to
talk
about,
and
we've
got
a
pretty
hot
thread
in
the
dow
talk
regarding
pulp
machina
and
his
critique
of
dick
swap-
and
I
guess
it's
strategy
where
it
falls
within
within
the
d5
dex
sort
of
sphere,
as
well
as
where
it
falls
in
line
with
the
with
what
am
I
trying
to
say
with
the
alignment
between
the
dxd
holders
and
and
the
dx
dow
reputation
holders
and
that
social
contract.
B
C
Up
yeah,
so
I
I
haven't,
read
the
entire
conversation,
but
this
it
reminds
me
a
little
bit
of
the
conversation
like
back
to
like
governance,
stuff
like
there's.
It
seems
like
get
understanding
all
of
the
information
about
a
specific
topic
like
governance
or
dx,
swap,
for
example,
the
information
sits
across
tons
of
video
calls
different
forum
posts,
different
conversations,
different
key
based
chats,
and
so
we
it's,
the
style,
still
doesn't
really
have
a
great
place
to
publish
like
like
a
road
map
for
that
product.
C
So
there's
people
that
I
kind
of
thought
were
pretty
have
been
following
the
dial
very
closely,
and
everyone
here
knows
that
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
follow
everything
that
dao
is
doing.
But
there
are
a
number
of
people
who
you
know
are
pretty
ingrained
in
the
doubt,
and
they
don't
know
about
a
lot
of
the
initiatives
that
are
part
of
dx
swap
such
as
we've
discussed,
dx
swap
on
things
like
x,
die
chain
and
eventual
layer.
C
Two
we've
also
like
talked
tons
about
governance
and
things
like
that
and
what
types
of
governance
and
providing
letting
lps
govern
the
individual
pools
that
they
own.
So,
there's
all
these
missing
pieces,
and
once
again,
we
maybe
if
we
put
these
all
in
one
one
place
where
anyone
can
learn
everything
that
dxdow
is
talking
about
with
the
x-swap.
It
would
help
like
the
conversation,
because
a
lot
of
the
questions
come
out
and
they're
they're
they're
missing,
like
half
the
information,
and
things
like
that.
C
So
it's
hard
to
have
good,
valuable
conversations
that,
like
like
that,
have
good
outcomes
when
there
are
people
missing
a
lot,
a
lot
of
information
related
to
the
actual
topic.
That's
that's
like
my
overall
observation
and
and
where
that
place
is
we
dx
style
still
needs
it
needs
to
be
for
different
products.
It
needs
to
be
for
different
verticals,
but
yeah.
There's
like
a
miscommunication
going
on
which
we
should
we
should
work
on
solving.
I
think.
D
Yeah,
so
I
think
one
I
totally
agree
we're
so
siloed
still,
which
is
interesting,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
open
like
we
or
all
our
cards
are
open
and
but
it's
not
written
down.
D
So
when
chris
did
this
month
in
review
thing
like
there's,
there's
a
reason
why
it
was
loved
so
much
like
it
actually
got
like
everyone
was
happy
about
that,
which
is
a
signal
for
maybe
we
should
do
that
more
often
than
just
per
month,
but
it's
quite
some
work
right
to
aggregate
all
those
discussions
and
then
even
like
we
discuss
a
lot
of
things,
but
then
no
one
decides
something
because
we
can't
decide
so
it
was
just
discussed
and
then
should
we
put
that
on
on
paper
and
actually
go
with
it.
B
Some
people
retweeted
it.
I
think
the
gentleman
from
fuse
did-
and
maybe
we
could
do
more
of
that,
like
publicizing
even
like
the
smallest
progress,
they
don't
have
to
be
like
50
bullet
points,
but
it
could
just
be
like
we
had
this.
We
had
this
call
and
we
we
talked
about
abc
and
decided
to
move
in
this
direction.
C
Yeah,
I
mean
that's
useful.
That's
in
my
mind.
That's
a
separate
thing
then
like,
because
we're
talking
specifically
about
like
a
dx
swap
thing
right
now
and
like
the
question
is:
what
could
we
do
better
so
that
more
people
that
just
glance
at
at
dx
dao
and
they
glance
at
dx
swap
the
product
and
they?
C
What
could
they
read
that
they
have
a
deeper
understanding
of
like
what
the
actual
end
goal
of
dx
swap
is,
which
is
way
bigger
than
just
a
unit
swap
fork
and
why
that
would
be
good
for
dx,
dow
in
tandem
with
all
of
dx
styles
other
products,
like
that's
a
very
specific
document,
right
yeah.
No,
I
mean
like.
E
I
don't
think
it's
a
great
document,
but
that
document
exists
the
strategy
and
positioning
document
for
dx,
swap
that,
like
lays
out
all
of
those
things,
I
think
that
that
has
not.
I
don't
think
captures
kind
of
everything,
but
I
think
that's
like
the
goal.
We
need
to
like
work
on
that
type
of
documentation
that,
like
fleshes
out
some
of
those
ideas
and
even
just
thinking
about
like
last
week
how
we
were
talking
about
on
friday.
E
You
know
both
the
like
optimized
pool
governance
structure
and
then
also
like
maybe
doing,
rewards
right.
Those
are
just
like
new
ideas,
we're
kind
of
maybe
thinking
about,
but
they
kind
of
make
sense
to
us
because
they're
part
of
this,
like
larger,
like
larger
story,
and
I
think
we
need
to
document
that
I
think
we're
doing
a
oh,
I
would
say
pretty
good
job.
I
think
of
documenting
this
and
being
forth
right
with
the
community.
I
think
there
are
really
two
separate
and
I
don't
want
us
to
like.
E
I
think,
we're
kind
of
complicating
this
issue
and
there's
two
separate
things
right.
One
is
the
is
pulp
machina's,
specific,
original
post
and
idea
that
you
talked
about
in
key
base.
We
talked
about
in
the
call
on
thursday,
friday
and
today,
which
is
about
like
supplying
geek
style
liquidity.
That's
a
like
brand
new
topic
that
is
like.
We
haven't
really
touched
on
directly
and
I
think
that's
like
really
interesting
and
I
think
that's
only
coming
out,
because
we've
like
been
iterating
out
in
the
open
and
then
like
separate
to
that
is
some
people.
E
I
think
it's
important
not
to
look
and
give
credence
to
the
loudest
voices,
but
there
are
some
people
that,
like
disagreed
with
the
overall
like
strategy
of
dx
swap
and
for
that
it
seemed
that
those
people
I
think
were-
and
this
is
my
opinion-
those
people
were
giving
their
their
criticisms-
were
not
aligned
with
the
strategy
that
has
been
laid
out,
and
you
can
like
disagree
with
that
strategy
and
I
think
that's
what
like
pope
machina
was
doing,
but
it
was
kind
of
a
yeah.
E
I
think
that
was
how
do
we
deal
with
like
criticism
that
we
think
is
like
yeah,
I
mean
we
just
kind
of
have
to
deal
with
it
in
some
way
and
I
think
it's
fine
for
the
criticism
to
come
up,
but
I
think
they're
like
really
two
separate
strands
of
criticism,
and
I
also
just
to
close
this.
I
think
this
is
like
part
of
the
whole
process
right
like
someone
coming
and
posting
that
they
hate
dick,
swap
and
then
like
well
crap.
E
The
people
that
have
been
working
on
it
need
to
come
up
with
a
response
and
like
do
it
in
a
cogent,
coherent
way
and
that,
like
back
and
forth
like
actually
does
create.
In
the
end,
I
think
a
good
strategy-
governance
like
structure
all
of
these
things-
so
that's
my
broad
take,
but
I
am
interested
just
to
eventually
lauren
talk
about
that.
The
the
original
point
by
pope
machina
not
kind
of
how
the
tangents
that
I
got
sidetracked
after.
F
Yeah,
we
probably
should
dig
into
that.
Specifically,
I
think
that's
worth
discussing
here,
but
I
mean
he
he
had.
He
himself
had
flagged
it
sort
of
as
a
transparency
issue,
which
I
I
think
he's
right
that
there's
a
problem
here.
I
don't
think
it's,
because
people
are
being
opaque
or
like
trying
to
hide
things.
I
think
we
are
super
transparent.
I
think
the
problem
is
communication
right,
like
it's
just
not
easy
to
find
information.
F
E
F
I
I
think
that
communication
is
what
the
problem
is,
but
pope
machina,
if
you
look
at
his
original
couple
posts,
calls
it,
but
he
says
this
is
concerning
from
a
transparency
perspective
right,
so
I
think
communication
problems
can
have
the
effect
of
hurting
transparency
like,
even
though
we're
not
trying
to
hide
anything
right
like.
G
Yeah,
I
think
from
the
outside.
It
can
be
perceived
as
being
like
you're
trying
to
hide
something,
even
though
that's
not
the
intended
purpose.
It's
just
because
people
are
talking
about
one
particular
thing
on
key
base,
or
you
know
the
dow
talk
forums
or
what
have
you,
and
so
it's
just
kind
of
everything's
kind
of
scattered
about
in
its
own
silo
right.
So
I
could
see
how
that
one
could
exploit
a
system
like
that.
B
But
I
think
he
also
has
a
problem
with
like
what
what
we're,
what
the
vxdow's
doing
so
through
the
dx
value
you
used
to
only
get
dxd
through
the
trust,
and
now
you
can
get
it
through.
Dx
swap-
and
I
guess
that
breaks
away
from
like
the
perspective
of
an
investor
who
sees
bonding
curve
like
that's
the
only
source
like
okay,
so
I'm
in
anyone
else
must
get
in
higher
from
the
bonding
curve,
and
I
guess
his
argument
is
that
the
dx
style
itself,
providing
a
secondary
market
is
maybe
counter
to
that
right.
E
F
So
from
the
original
post
in
the
first
section,
second
paragraph,
he
says-
or
she
or
whoever
note
that
I
cannot
find
a
link
to
a
past
proposal
for
this
decision.
This
is
concerning
because
it
raises
transparency
and
good
governance
issues,
and
he
comes
back
to
that.
You
know
I
respond
to
that.
Specifically,
he
responds
again
like
kind
of
saying.
Yes,
this
is
a
transparency.
I
think
what
he's
trying
to
say
is
that
this
issue
that
he's
raising
like
should
have
been
brought
up
to
rep
for
voters.
F
Now,
there's
nuance
here:
if
you
dig
him,
this
is
what
skye
is
talking
about
like
there's,
some
things
that
pulp
machine
is
saying
that
maybe
he
just
doesn't
understand
about
tx
swap
like
all
pairs,
are
50
50..
So
that's
not
even
a
question
right
like
that,
never
needed
to
be
voted
on,
because
it's
the
only
thing
that's
possible
right.
So,
but
I
mean
like,
I
think
the
takeaway
for
me
here
is
that
you
know,
if
he's
seeing
this
as
a
transparency
issue.
F
It
is
a
transparency
issue
like,
but
I
think
that
the
problem
is
communication
like
we
need
to
work
with
dowstak
to
improve
by
the
way
I
sent
this
post
to
matan
and
everybody
at
downstack,
so
they
could
see
the
complaint
and
like.
I
think
we
need
to
work
to
like
make
sure
that
we
have
good
process
around
these
decisions
and
good
process
around
communicating
the
outcomes
and
where
they
are
and
like
what's
important
right.
G
F
E
Yeah,
I
think
we
need
to
and
again
I
think
this
is
like
a
positive
input
kind
of
leading
to
the
discussion,
but,
like
I
guess,
just
in
the
the
thread
that
I
shared,
which
was
like
you
know,
a
three
or
four
week,
discussion
on
dow
talk
like
we
basically
are
like
asking
and
seeking
for
community
feedback
through
that
whole
time
and,
of
course
that's
where
the
proposal
is
late,
you
can
see
a
link
to
the
proposal
there.
E
So
I
I
guess
I'm
saying-
and
I
think
this
is
where,
like
the
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make,
is
that
I
think
we
need
to
do
better
job
of
communicating
rather
than
like
rejigging
our
whole
like
processes
or
kind
of
like
that,
because
I
I
to
me,
I
think
that
this
is
like
we're
iterating
out
in
the
open.
No
one
was
kind
of
oh.
I.
G
F
F
The
machine
perspective
he's
looking
at
the
proposal
that
passed:
okay,
here's
the
final
whatever
and
there's
a
we're
going
to
provide
300,
000
liquidity,
and
it
doesn't
say
at
what
price
it
doesn't
say.
You
know
what
that
means
for
the
bonding
curve
and
he's
kind
of
like.
Why
didn't
that
get
attention
I
mean
part
of
it?
Is
it
wasn't
really
brought
up
from
that
angle?
And
it's
good
because
he's
now
bringing
that
up
right
but
like
what
did?
F
H
Mean
so
so
he's
looking
at
this
from
a
perspective
from
an
investor,
so
if,
if
that
was
the
case
of
only
the
money
being
taken
out
out
of
the
treasury,
it's
on
in
the
proposal
right,
it
said
how
much
it
would
take
out,
but
this
time
it
actually
it's
not
about
the
money
itself.
It's
just
hurting,
whoever
is
buying
on
the
bonding
curve
right
or
bought
at
later
time.
So
this
perspective
is
very,
very
specific
and
it's
more
strategic
than
than
than
the
money
itself.
Just
what
strategy
are
we
taking?
H
And
if
we
take
this
strategy
it
hurts
any
future
bonding
curve
buyers,
which
is
how
the
price
goes
up
on
the
on
the
mounting
curve.
So
I
think
just
just
to
separate
those
two
things
it's
just
like
it.
It's
almost
like
the
excel
has
a
strategy
because
of
we,
the
bonding
curve
and
and
the
secondary
market,
and
then
we're
breaking
the
strategy
by
adding
this
secondary
market.
H
E
That's
seeing
like
large
amounts
of
dxd
or
eth
move
should
definitely
be
paying
attune
to
that.
But
like
that,
I
guess
the
execution
of
that
like
strategy
hasn't
happened
yet,
and
so
in
my
mind
I
feel
like
we
had
like
a
first
hey.
This
is
what
we're
thinking
right
in
this
community
launch
parameters
that
were
passed
in
mid
10
september
and
then
like.
We
basically
haven't
done
an
update,
but
I
also
don't
think
there's
been
any
like
actions
that
have
really
like
happened,
because
we
haven't
been
proposing
to
move
around.
F
F
Sorry,
I
was
gonna
say
you
could
argue:
the
process
is
working
right
like
basically,
you
know
the
folks
myself
included
that
helped
kind
of
craft
that
original
strategy
right.
Like
we
made
a
mistake,
we
didn't
think
about
the
bonding
curve
situation
here.
The
signal
proposal
was
up.
It
passed
community
member
pope
machina
sees
the
single
proposal
sees
the
problem
flags.
It
raises
it
now
we're
discussing
like
the
process
is
actually
working.
I
mean
some
of
us
screwed
up
and
that's
what
we're
realizing
now
but
like
it's
and
like
didn't.
F
H
I
Right,
it's
free
yeah
yeah.
This
is
this
is
a
part
of
the
governance
process.
Right,
like
you
know,
we
post
something
there's
kind
of
like
something
that's
ongoing,
like
consensus
is
being
established
and
then
you
know
someone
kind
of
shakes
that
with
their
own
perspective-
and
this
is
yeah
part
of
the
governance
process-
basically.
E
Yeah-
and
I
I
completely
agree
that
kind
of
with
how
we're
kind
of
framing
and
accepting
this,
I
do
think
one
of
the
things
that
makes
me
so
bullish
on
the
extel
culture
and
community
in
general
is
the
ability
to
take
in
outside
information
and
not
immediately
react
defensively.
E
And
I
say
that
like
thinking
that,
maybe,
like
you
know,
I
or
we
are
reacting
defensively
to
that,
but
I
think
just
it's
a
really
really
great
trait
of
the
community.
If
we
can
like
allow
potential
criticisms
right
to
come
in
and
not
have
us
like,
become
defensive
and
start
like
saying
you
know,
that's
a
bad
idea,
or
you
know
that
so.
F
Yeah
and
criticism
is
good
and-
and
I
will
just
say
that
what
I
will
push
back
on,
though,
is
unconstructive
criticism,
but
just
negativity
like
if
you
are
criticizing
it
should
be
constructive.
There
should
be
questions
asked
there
should
be
ideas
put
forward,
and
all
that
is
very
good
but,
like
I
don't
think,
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
you
know
just
straight
negativity.
That's
not
really
helpful.
C
That
gets
back
to
john
your
your
your
point
right.
There
is
like
if
someone
is
going
to
say
something
that
I
don't
like
that
idea.
It
works
much
better
if
they
say
here's
a
better
idea
or
another
idea.
So
if
you're
like
dx
swap,
is
not
like
someone,
I
hate
dx
swap
for
dx
dow.
It's
just
gonna
be
a
flop.
C
D
In
that,
in
that
threat
john
and
me,
we
definitely
pushed
back
and
we
wear
defensiveness,
and
so
I
was
like.
I
actually
thought
the
same
thing
about
the
point
chris
mentioned
about,
like
I'm
emotional,
about
that.
So
I'm
like
immediately
getting
protective
and
go
like
all
in
and
like
okay,
let's,
let's
have
a
war,
but
it
is
much
better
to
actually
like
learn
how
to
talk
together
and
really
try
to
get
always
the
best
outcome
for
everyone
and
and
claymore
actually
did
it
at
the
end.
D
He
he
he
said
at
the
beginning.
He's
like
this
is
it's
it's
crap,
but
then
he's
like.
But
if
you
actually
do
something
like
this,
this
could
be
a
differentiator
and
it
could
work
and
it
actually
like
the
exercise
stuff
that
was
like
completely.
It
was
at
least
for
me,
it's
this
kind
of
planned
already
that
dx
club
and
omen
will
go
to
extra,
and
so
that
was
like.
Okay,
that's
like
good
good
points
he
raised,
and
this
is
something
where
we
can
start
working
on.
This
is
the
whole
ballgame.
E
Like
if
we
can
do
this
well
like
this
is
the
type
of
like
cultural
of
like
iteration,
that
you
can
like
build
anything
absorb
people
so
yeah,
I
just
you,
know
getting
good
at
this
process
of
constructive
feedback
and
iteration
like
in
forums
on
calls
in
like
social.
You
know
across
maybe
social
media
like
this
is
just
a
really
important
thing
that
we
can
get.
This
can
be
our
competitive.
F
D
But
I
guess
he
took
a
few
hours
to
actually
come
up
with,
like
a
proper
blog
post
who's,
not,
but
actually
like
guys
what's
going
on
here,
and
I
think
we
should
definitely
send
them
like
a
more
invite
letter
to
like
okay,
it
seems
like
you
want
to
draw.
E
Yeah,
so
you
know
the
main
point,
obviously
being
like
deploying
a
new
source
of
dxd
supply,
that's
managed
by
dx,
dow,
that
is
at
a
different
price
than
the
bonding
curve.
I
think
they're.
You
know
this.
E
The
reason
that
we're
in
this,
like
quote-unquote
situation,
is
because
of
the
100k
pre-med
right,
that's
like
dxd
that
the
dow
holds
that
it
can.
You
know
as
it
invests
it
can
quote,
unquote,
do
whatever
like
it
wants
to
and
that's
separate
from
the
bonding
curve,
so
any
gps
that
would
be
coming
off
of
this
did
not
come
from
the
bonding
curve.
So
then
the
question
is
like:
how
do
you
have
these
two?
Corresponding
things
exist?
E
E
Broadly
speaking,
I
am
a
little
worried
about
the
precedent
it
would
set
for
dxd
in
the
treasury,
because
I
think,
with
this
president,
basically
like
dxd
geek
style,
would
not
be
able
to
use
its
dxd
at
a
price
less
than
the
bonding
curve,
and
this
is
already
a
precedent.
I
think
we
have
for
worker
compensation
proposals
right
where
that,
like
dxd,
is
priced
at
the
bonding
curve
there.
But
I
do
think
if
we
did
something
like
this.
It's
just
kind
of
almost
whenever
dxd
would
be
used
from
the
treasury.
C
This
thing
that
I
mean
the
corporate
world,
like
you,
know
traditional
finance
world,
like
shareholders,
the
board
and
the
shareholders
make
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
they
want
to
monetize
at
a
certain
price,
and
now,
if
we
think
the,
if
dx
dial
really
doesn't
want
to
like
to
not
use
because
eath
is
too
low
or
to
not
use
dxd,
because
the
current
market
price
is
too
low,
it's
the
same
argument
right
like
let's
not,
let's
not
spend
the
dx
dow.
Has
it
doesn't
make
it
it?
Doesn't
it's
it's
it's
the
current
market
price
right.
F
I
I
think
there
is
a
difference
I
mean
eath
is
not
something
that
is
issued
by
the
external
right,
so
the
difference
being
that
you
know
dxd
is
issued
by.
I
mean
dx
now
effectively
right
through
the
the
bonding
curve,
and
there
is
a
price
right,
so
I
mean
in
effect
there
there
are
people
who
bought
from
the
dx
now
at
a
certain
price,
and
so
I
disagree
with
publishing
his
take
that
it's
a
like
a
new
bonding
curve.
It's
not
a
new
bonding
curve.
F
F
Workers,
but
we're
issuing
it
at
a
price.
You
know
workers
are
being
compensated
with
dxd
one.
It's
it's
investing
to
your
vest
and
two:
it's
it's
being
issued
to
them
at
a
rate
which
is
at
the
mint
price
of
the
bonding
curve,
so
so
not
below
what
anybody
has
ever
paid
for
dxd
from
the
bonding
curve.
That's
different.
H
F
I
mean
in
my
mind
the
point
is
so
it's
so
the
dow
can
use
it
right
and
yeah
and
who
knows
how
it
yeah
it
could
be
easy.
Yeah,
probably.
C
C
So
you
could
use
it
for
worker,
you
can
only
use
it
for
cases
like
in
this
argument,
use
it
for
cases
where
you
can
only
issue
it
at
the
bonding
curve
price
like
payments
like
the
dxtel
workers
like
because
at
what
point
like
one
year
from
now,
the
price
the
market
is
hovering
around
the
bonding
curve
price.
Again,
let's
say
like:
if
it's
one
a
little
bit
below
you
can't
use
it
and
it's
a
little
bit.
C
F
Yeah,
I
don't
think
we
should
be
that
extremely
negative,
like
that's,
why
I
use
the
language
that
we
should
respect
the
people
who
bought
from
the
bonding
curve.
I
think
another
way
to
look
at
that
is
like
you,
don't
want
to
use
dxd
in
a
way
that
can
like
negatively
impact
the
market
price
right.
However,
I
mean
you,
don't
really
necessarily
know
what
the
effects
are
going
to
be,
but
isn't.
H
Every
way
every
actually
way
of
using
dxd
will
like,
if
you
release
dxd
in
any
way
it
could
hurt
the
market
price.
That's
it.
It
will
impact
the
circulating
supply
yeah
and
also
like
we
don't
like.
If
a
worker
gets,
this
dxd
can
sell
them
and
it
will
affect.
Even
though
it's
invested
two
years
whatever,
but
after
two
years
it
will.
F
I
mean,
I
guess
we
can
kind
of
think
it
out
like
game
it
out
a
little
bit
right
like
if
we
adhered
to
a
precedent,
which
was
that
dxd
will
never
be
released
in
the
circulating
supply
from
the
pre-med
at
a
price
less
than
the
mint
price
on
the
bonding
curve.
What
does
that
mean
right
like
what
would
like
you
can
never
use
it?
C
I
would
argue
that
when
you
bought
dxd
from
the
start,
it
was
very
clearly
known
that
the
dow
minted
100
000
dxd
to
be
used
to
to
accomplish
the
xtiles
mission
so
like
that
was
transparent
from
the
start
to
then
now
say
like
the
dx
style
cannot
use
it.
I
mean
it's
a
vesting
schedule
and
you
want
to
know
only
the
investment
amount
now
over
the
over
the
year
multi-year
period,
but
that's
that
was
like
into
the
that's
built
into
the
smart
contract.
So
all
of
that
stuff
is
up.
C
That's
why
you
that's
why
it's
not
all
released
on
day
one
because
you
only
want
it
coming
onto
the
market,
but
that
would
assume
that
it's
meant
it's
supposed
to
come
onto
the
market.
That's
the
whole
point
of
the
monthly
vesting
right
yeah.
If
you
can't
use
it
like
they
might
as
well
just
burn
it
all.
F
C
D
Yeah,
like
one
interesting
point,
would
be
that
that
we
say
like
that.
We
say
as
soon
as
we
actually
do
some
burning
right
that
this
will
like.
I
don't
think
we
should
position
ourselves
that
we
will
not
release
dxt,
which
we
kind
of
do
right
now.
We
kind
of
like
do
everything
we
can
to
not
release
something
into
the
market
which
is
may
even
hurt
us.
E
I
basically
want
to
use
the
dxd
at
the
price
of
the
mint
curve
like
we're
doing
with
worker
compensation,
but
obviously,
like
you
can't
do
it
50
50
50
pool.
But
could
you
like
to
basically
say
like
half
the
pool
is
coming
from
the
pre-med
and
then
the
other
half
is
being
bought
on
the
open
market?
So
you
could
create.
You
could.
F
Theoretically,
niko's
gonna
probably
get
some
heart
complications.
I
think
it
actually
changes
the
implementation
of
what
he's
doing,
but
I
think
in
theory
you
could
provide
liquidity
at
the
mid
price
of
the
curve
right
and
the
problem.
I
see
with
that
the
what
happens
getting
that
out
when
you
provide
liquidity
at
the
price
of
the
curve,
which
is
above
the
market
price,
there's
liquidity
and
unit
swap,
is
liquidity
and
balancer
immediately.
What
will
happen
is
bots
will
arbitrage,
it's
not
even
an
instant
dump.
It's
just
arbitrage.
F
There
will
be
arbitrage
between
the
existing
liquidity
and
it's
going
to
bring
the
prices
in
the
equilibrium
it
will
bring
the
market
price
up
by
some
amount
and
then
but
what
in
effect
we're
doing
is
you
know,
selling
a
bunch
of
eth
for
dxd
but
and
which
maybe
is
a
good
thing?
Maybe
we
want
to
do
that,
but
the
bad
thing
I
see
about
that
is
the
arbitrages
are
going
to
take
a
huge
cut
of
it
and
they're
going
to
do
it
immediately.
F
E
Well,
I
think
it's
that's
a,
I
think
it's
a
precedent.
I
think,
like
the
other
thing
I'm
with
with,
like,
I
think,
I'm
thinking
about
this,
the
conversation
and
separate
swap
in
like
the
context
of
like
dxd
and
dxd
price
and
dc
holders,
who
are
kind
of
like
you
know,
maybe
going
through
a
little.
E
The
the
token
has
not
been
performing
as
well,
and
so
I
think
that
is
a
context
for
some
of
this,
and
I
also
think
like
there's
been,
you
know
whether
governance
things
like
there's
there's
things
that
we're
moving
towards,
but
in
terms
of
like
now
right
now,
dx
holders
can
kind
of
seem
to
be
a
little
bit
unhappy
and
then
separate
from
that.
E
I,
like,
I
think,
like
dhd,
is
like
priced
low
and
if
we
are
going
to
do
the
thing
of
like
a
share
buyback
like,
I
think
it
would
make
sense,
almost
independent
of
dx
swap
for
dx
dow
to
do
dxd
buyback
if
it
thinks
the
price
of
dxd
like
is
low.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
saying.
I
think
that
that
conversation
is
almost
separate
can
be
almost
separate
to
the
dx,
swap
one.
H
H
Yeah
I
mean
the
discussion
I
saw
yesterday.
People
were
bullish
and
I
don't
know
someone
where
I'm.
C
Now
also
also,
the
goal
is
to
turn
dx
swap
into
along
with
other
products,
into
a
revenue
generating
machine.
Now,
there's
gonna
be
to
do
that.
You
have
to
invest
like
vcs
spent
five
million
dollars,
10
million
dollars
investing
in
unit
swap
to
then
turn
it
into
a
revenue
generating
machine
game
like
like
this.
D
I
would
argue
it's
still
better
than
just
having
it
on
our
dao
avatar
address
right.
It's
it's
treasury
management
and
and
actually
boosting
our
own
product,
and
we
like,
we
don't
need
paradigm
or
hayden
and
crypto
twitter
like
we're
actually
doing
our
own.
C
Buying
back
some
dxb
to
average
in
with
using
some
dxd,
I
mean
you
would
buy
back
some.
If,
if
we
didn't
have
enough
vested
dxd
that
we
needed
more
dxd
and
it
was
still
locked
and
we
wanted
to
provide
more
liquidity,
then
you
would
buy
some
more
dxd
in
the
market
which
maybe
we
want.
Maybe
we
will
do
that,
like.
Maybe
that
does
make
sense.
E
Yeah,
I
think,
like
two
things
or
two
kind
of
questions
that
throw
out
there
one
is
there
an
argument
that
this
is
a
like?
Does
it
have
downward
pressure
on
the
price
of
gxd,
like,
I
think,
if
you
have
a
pool,
that's
priced
at
like
current
market
rates,
I
don't
know
if
you
could,
like
argue
necessarily
that
that's
like
going
to
create
downward
pressure.
E
This
is
downward
pressure
on
dxd,
even
in
the
short
term,
and
I
think
second,
if
the
price
of
gxd
on
the
open
market
right
now
was
0.75
feet,
would
that
change
anything
and
the
bonding
curve
is
still
1.03
or
whatever
like?
How
would
that
kind
of
change
things.
E
D
E
I'm
saying
if
the
market
price,
let's
live
in
a
world,
let's
imagine
a
world
where
dxd
is
trading
at
0.75
feet,
we're
all
really
happy
everything's
going
like
great,
but
the
mint
the
price
on
the
mint
is
still
at
1.03
e.
So
if,
if
the
excel
were
to
provide
liquidity
at
0.75
eth,
that
would
still
be
like
lower
than
1.03
and
still
be,
like
quote
unquote
like
breaking
the
social
contract,
but
like
I
don't
think
we
would.
E
I
guess
I
don't
think
we
would
be
having
this
conversation
if
the
difference
between
the
market
price
and
the
mint
price
wasn't
so
large,
and
because
it's
about
like
the
difference
in
size,
I
think
that's.
Why,
like
the
conversation,
is
much
more
in
the
context
of
like
dxd
price
than
it
is
in,
like
dx
swap
and
using
the
dxd
in
that
way,.
E
H
H
D
Let
that
talk
and
to
be
honest,
I
think,
we're
the
only
project
who's
besides
knossos
who's,
actually
who
want
to
get
their
tokens
back.
That's
like
a
very
important
social
signal.
That's
like
okay,
we
are
getting
our
dxd
back
and
that's
a
gamble
and
I
hope
it
will
work
out
like
right
if
we
buying
those
tokens
for
that
price.
Our
goal
is
like
that.
The
price
is
actually
like.
D
It's
actually
a
good
deal
for
us,
which
it
is
in
my
personal
view,
but
like
no,
everyone
is
printing
tokens
and
they,
like
the
only
thing
they
care,
is
eve
like
real
money
and
like
yeah.
So
I
think
I'm
I'm
pro
buyback.
H
This
this
actually
reminds
me
of
of
2017.
When
there's
a
lot
of
icos
and
price
pumped
up
people
bought
the
coin,
and
then
prices
went
down.
Let's
say
it
was
like
summer
2017,
not
the
december
january
pump.
So
what
happened
was
discussions
about
price
people
wanted
the
price
to
go
up?
There
was
projects
that
actually
worked
actively
on
keeping
the
price
up
with
hype,
with
announcements,
events
etc,
and
there
there
were
projects
working
on
the
technology
and
the
long
term,
and,
to
be
honest,
I
was
team
team
long
term
I
was
like
you
know.
H
This
is
long.
This
is
better
to
do
this
and
this
and
that,
but
those
projects
that
actually
worked
on
keeping
the
price
up
keeping
the
hype.
I
know
I
don't
like
this,
it's
not
my
thing,
but
I'm
just
from
my
sense
like
if
we
compare
10x,
which
had
I
don't
know
how
many
millions
they
had
100
million
like
in
ico,
and
then
you
had
monaco,
which
had
10
20
million
dollars
in
the
ico,
and
then
you
look
today
like
what
happened
today.
Monaco
is
like
or
crypto.com.
H
They
are
huge,
like
they're
top
15
top
20
crypto
projects
and
10x
is
like
top
600
project
and
if
you
just
look
at
their
strategy,
both
of
them
one
was
focusing
on
the
price,
the
other
one
was
focusing
on
technology
and
like
long-term
profit
profitability.
H
I
don't
think
it's.
You
can
compare
this,
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
I'm
saying
we
should
still
think
about
price,
because
this
is
how
the
money
we
have
like.
We
got
the
money
from
these
guys.
We
should
still
keep
this
up,
keep
them
happy.
Somehow
we
shouldn't
listen
to
them
blindly,
but
if
there
is
an
action
which
keeps
keeps
the
money
happy,
let's
say
we
should
consider
it,
even
though
it's
short
term,
I
I
think
that
that's
a
strategy,
even
though
it
doesn't
make
sense
in
the
normal
business
world.
G
Aren't
we
talking
like
at
the
core
here?
Aren't
we
all
of
these
things
we're
talking
about
just
kind
of
ways
to
mitigate
risk
on
it
from
an
investor's
standpoint,
so
like
people
that
buy
dxd,
they
don't
want
the
number
to
go
down.
G
Is
that
kind
of
what
we're
talking
about
here
and
then
I
would,
I
would
ask
further,
I
mean
we
can
tinker
with
the
machine
all
we
want,
but
that
doesn't
stop
somebody
from
coming
and
selling
their
whole
stake,
which
you
know,
we've
spent
so
much
time
tinkering
with
the
machine
and
then
it's
just
like
you
get
your
ship
gets.
You
know
swapped
with
some
wave
so,
like
I
don't
know
like,
is
that
even
possible.
F
C
E
Well,
that's
the
stuff!
This
is
goes
to.
The
east
rewards
thing
right.
Well,
why
don't
we
just
instead
of
buying
the
dxd?
Why
don't
we
just
incentivize
we're
going
to
buy
that
dxd
with
eth?
Why
don't
we
just
use
that
eat
to
incentivize
other
dxd
holders
to
like
deposit
into
dx
swap
and
like
that
would
maybe
be
like.
Obviously,
we
wouldn't
own
the
dxd
in
that
case,
but
that
would
probably
be
a
much
cheaper
way
of
getting
liquidity
into
dx
swap,
but
then
you're
just
giving
away
the
heath
which
is.
D
Also,
john
nico
is
that
do
we
think
about
having
how
much
dx
swap
is
burning
balance
somewhere?
I
think
that's
like
one
of
the
most
important
numbers
to
showcase.
I
was
actually
totally.
F
Yeah,
I
was
actually
working
on
this
last
night,
some
help
from
the
so
with
the
contracts
as
they
are
now.
The
dx
now
has
the
ability
to
set
the
address
for
the
fee
to
where
the
where
the
protocol
fees
go.
So
I
mean
one
thing
you
can
do
is
set
it
to
the
avatar
of
the
you
know:
it's
not
extended
to
the
treasury,
but
I
mean
the
the
social
contract.
F
You
know,
as
laid
out
many
places
already,
is
to
send
it
to
the
dx
trust,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
pain.
I
think
if
it's
from
the
avatar
to
the
dx
trusts
require
proposals
and
stuff.
So
what
I'm
actually
working
on
is
a
separate
smart
contract
to
be
the
fee
too.
F
B
All
right,
I
do
want
to
give
nylon
some
time
just
to
speak
on
his
part
of
the
agenda
today,
so
I
don't
mean
to
like
cut
this
short.
I
know
we
can
keep
going,
but
I
want
to
give
now
some
time.
F
We
can
always
continue
this
in
a
couple
of
the
other
calls,
including
the
dx.
What
calls
you.
I
Yeah,
so
just
like
a
few
updates
about
the
xdi
deployment,
so
it's
kind
of
it's
interesting.
What
had
happened
if
you,
if
you
go
to
the
link
that
incoming
just
shared
in
the
chat,
it
will
take
you
to
the
older
plug-in
manager.
I
You
see
like
the
lower
the
parameters
of
the
funding
and
voting
power
and
the
added
token
registry
plug-in.
But
if
you
click
on
top
on
the
breadcrumbs
on
top
to
like
the
proposal,
plugins
you'll
see
that
you
know
the
plugin
manager
doesn't
have
any
proposals.
So
what
happened?
I
So
basically,
what
happened
is
the
updating.
The
parameters
of
the
plugin
manager
is
actually
deleting
the
scheme
and
adding
a
new
one.
So
what
happened?
Is
that,
because
we
redeemed
the
plug-in
manager
proposal
before
the
funding
and
voting
power
proposal,
that
funding
and
voting
power
proposal
is
tied
to
a
plugin
manager
that
is
no
longer
registered
to
the
dao
makes
sense.
I
So
yeah,
that's
kind
of
like
one
thing
that
happened
so
like
there
is
a
fix
to
that.
We
are
able
to
register
that
old,
plugin
manager
back,
and
you
know
give
that
the
ability
to
basically
redeem
these
proposals.
So
you
know
the
people
who
staked
on
them
wouldn't
lose
all
the
gender
they
staked
yeah.
Exactly
so
that's
crisis,
don't
panic!
It's
okay,
so
we'll
be
able
to
yeah,
basically
redeem
these
proposals.
I
However,
we
did
find
like
an
additional
bug
that
this
plugin
manager,
this
updated
plugin
manager,
doesn't
have
the
same
permissions
as
the
older
one,
which
is
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
like
bad
news,
but
I
feel
like
this
is
actually
great
that
this
it
happened
so
early.
Now
that
you
know
we're
still
testing
stuff-
and
we
still
have
like
you
know-
take
money
out
of
the
dow
kind
of
proposals.
I
G
I
Do
that
it's
fairly
simple,
so
yeah
great.
I
D
Oh
no!
No
so,
like
my
wasn't
anyone
surprised
about
that,
we
have
like
less
numbers
for
the
extra
like.
Do
you
guys
think
we
should
actually
include
the
rest
of
the
of
the
guys
as
placeholders,
with
their
like
mainnet
addresses
just
so.
The
rap
distribution
is
actually
like.
Almost
identical
again,
it's
just
like
bigger
weights
on
main
are
even
more
bigger
when
it's
on
extra
and
that's
like.
D
Right
but
yeah
right,
I
mean
right
now,
they're
just
like
like
missing
completely,
but
they
just
have
like
their
own.
Their
old
placeholder
address.
They
can't
use
it,
so
they
need
to
like
burn
the
rep
on
the
old
address
on
x,
die
and
then
mint
it.
So
there's
it's
just
like
one
more
proposal.
F
So
if
those
addresses
are
inactive
like
they're,
not
paying
attention,
which
is
implied
by
the
fact
that
they
didn't
map
right,
then
it
shouldn't
really
change
the
outcome
of
any
vote
right
because
you
know
just
because
the
weights
are
bigger
on
next
time,
they're
just
bigger,
because
inactive
people
have
been
removed
right
and
in
other
words
they
wouldn't
have
voted
anyways
right
and
all
the
other
relative
weights
are
just
increased.
F
I
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
might
be
the
goal
of
like
xdi-
is
to
kind
of
do
things
like
a
little
bit
faster
and
I
mean
the
the
point
of
you
know
more
centralized
power.
I
don't
think
it's.
You
know
it's
not
like
a
hundred
percent
exactly
this.
It's
anyone
who
wants
to
join
the
style
and
has
reputation
in
the
mainnet,
though,
can
do
it.
So
it's
like
it's
basically
like
opting
in
to
use
the
x
died
down.
If
you
are
organized
safe.
D
So
nylon,
like
it's
clear,
the
current
one
is
dead.
I
think
the
as
soon
as
possible.
We
should
clone
right.
I
Yeah
yeah,
I
mean
it's
not
you
know
fully
dead
like
we
will
need
to
add
the
schemes.
So
you
know
mr
powers
here
could
have
his
gen
back,
but
yeah
like
we
will
have
to
like.
There
are
a
couple
more
things
to
do
it
there
and
then
yeah
like
this
week.
We
will
deploy
the
copy.
I
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
actually
think
it's
it's
kind
of
great
that
we
like
we're
doing
like
all
these
experimentations
like
fairly
early
yeah,
like
sky's
initiatives
as
well
with
the
whole
transferring
to
die
and
sending
like
you
know,
small
amount
and
then
taking
it
out.
I
think
it's
good
and
maybe
I'll
touch
a
bit
about
what
skye
asked
yeah.
So
when
you
send
funds
to
the
avatar,
then
there's
like
an
internal
contract
transfer
to
transfer
the
money
transfers
the
money
from
the
avatar
to
default.
I
I
So
that's
kind
of
like
a
problem
like
you
either
send
it.
If
you
send
it
from
the
bridge,
you
send
it
to
the
vault
and
like
another
option
would
be
to
just
send
it
to
an
address
first
and
then
that
address
sends
it
to
to
the
avatar,
and
that
could
be,
you
know,
can
also
create
a
contract
for
that.
Just
be
like
another
transaction,
though.
I
Yeah,
I'm
not
well.
I
guess
because
that's
like
the
outward
kind
of
address
of
the
dao.
C
Yeah
so,
and
how
do
does
the
dow
stack
bridge
have
alternate
receiver.
I
I
don't
know,
but
the
dallas
that
bridge
only
has
like
gen
an
accent.
It
doesn't
have
anything
else.
I.
C
Know
but
we
need
to
get
x,
we
need
to
get
x,
gen
well,
dow
stacks
x,
gen
in
the
dow,
so
that
they
can
do
proposals
and
stuff.
But
can
we
can
we
use
that
bridge
to
and
we
have
to
use
that
bridge
because
that's
the
x-gen
that
that
the
dow
recognized
that
alchemy
recognizes,
but
can
we
do?
Can
we
send
it
straight
from
the
bridge
from
the
dow
stack
bridge
into
the
vault.