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From YouTube: DXdao Community Call [2022-06-09] (audio) Twitter Spaces
Description
00:01 Welcome
00:08 Operation Decentralization Warm Up
01:16 The Merge - Ethereum Merge Discussion
19:31 Optimism/Wintermute
35:46 Swapr Recap
40:19 DXgov Recap
42:28 Karpatkey DAO Treasury Management
46:30 New Swapr Farms - COW Specifics
48:18 DXdao State of Audits
A
Hello,
hello,
everybody
good
morning,
I'm
your
host
keenan.
Welcome
to
the
june
9
2022
weekly,
dx
style
community
call
held
once
again
on
twitter
spaces.
For
those
of
you
not
aware,
we're
experimenting
with
spaces
in
anticipation
of
operation,
decentralization
dsl's,
upcoming
and
very
own
live
show
we'll
be
discussing
decentralization,
a
bunch
of
other
fun
topics
with
a
bunch
of
fun
guests.
So
look
forward
to
that.
A
Hopefully,
a
formal
announcement
early
next
week
so
eyes
peeled
for
that
today,
we're
going
to
be
diving
into
discussion
with
the
merge
kind
of
the
exciting
topic
in
the
ethereum
ecosystem.
Today,
a
bit
about
the
recent
optimism
exploit
and
then
more
on
the
dx
dao
side
chatting
about
our
audits
and
treasure
treasury
management
through
partski
and
much
more
other
topics.
A
If
you're
looking
for
any
live
discussion,
you
can
find
a
chat
for
this
call
in
our
discord
where
we
typically
have
held
our
community
calls
prior,
you
can
go
to
the
dxnow
handle.
I
think
the
host
of
this
call
directly
in
the
profile
you
can
find
the
discord
link
and
then
right
at
the
top
of
the
server
you'll,
find
the
mothership
text
under
the
voice
channels.
Category.
That's
where
we'll
be
having
any
text
discussion.
A
I
am
looking
forward
to
a
text
box
of
some
kind
for
twitter's
faces,
but
not
here
yet
unfortunately
yeah
to
kick
us
off.
Let's
chat
about
the
merge,
I
think
most
of
us
hopefully
here
are
familiar,
and
I
want
this
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
you
know,
open-ended
flexible
conversation,
but
just
to
kick
it
off.
For
those
of
you
that
are
not
the
merge
is
a
planned
upgrade
to
the
ethereum
network,
migrating
from
proof
of
work
to
proof
of
stake.
A
You
know
power
intensive
hardware,
it's
not
gonna
be
required
to
validate
the
network
anymore.
You
know
just
over
the
proof
of
stake,
so
either
emissions
are
going
to
be
more
sustainable
as
well.
You
know,
obviously
1559
making
things
deflationary
is
already
interesting
and
mixing
that
together
is
a
whole
other
topic.
A
As
of
yesterday,
the
merger
successfully
executed
on
robson
and,
if
I'm
correct,
I
think,
girly
and
sapolia,
maybe
I
think
we
have
two
more
test
nets
to
go
through
before
mainnet,
just
seeing
john
requesting
to
come
back
up
to
the
stage
yeah.
So
that's
kind
of
the
the
current
plan
with
the
merge
I'm
curious.
Anyone
on
stage
has
any
thoughts
insights,
any
thoughts
on
their
end.
I
guess
just
about
the
merge.
B
Hey
cannon,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yeah,
nice
yeah.
I
think
this
is
a
big
deal.
The
roxton
test
network
is
the
first
time
that
they've
demonstrated
the
merge
on
a
public
test
net.
Everything
before
was
sort
of
these
dedicated
test
nets.
So
it's
a
big
deal
that
that
went
well
and
it's
like
one
step
closer
to
the
real
deal.
I
think
they
they
still
have
a
few
more
steps
like
doing
it
on
gourley
and
the
other
test
net
and
yeah.
A
C
A
C
I
I
do
think
there
was
a
time
when,
because
really
this
is
you
know,
proof
of
stake
has
always
been
part
of
the
ethereum
roadmap
ever
since
the
first
white
paper.
So
even
though,
like
the
chain,
we
all
know
and
love
now,
this
group
of
work
chain
has
run
so
well
almost
for
for
seven
years.
It
always
was
when
proof
of
stake
went
through
this
date,
but
it's
actually
like
pretty
complicated
to
to
do
all
that
so
yeah.
I
think
there's
a
bunch
of
angles
to
look
at
here.
C
One
is
a
good
example
like
I
guess
is
the
merge
just
another
hard
fork
to
where,
like
the
consensus,
rules
are
changing
and
everyone
agrees
to
go
to
like
this
new
one,
but
like
this
new
one
is
not
just
like
a
new
release
of
the
software
on
the
proof
of
work.
It's
like
a
new
like.
I
was
like
a
new
network
almost
entirely
so
like.
How
exactly
is
that,
like
shift
happening
from
proof
of
work
to
proof
of
stake?
B
C
C
B
B
So
this
is
sort
of
like
kind
of
the
clock
is
ticking
for
proof
of
work
and
the
miners
right.
But
then,
once
the
switch
is
made,
then
I
think
it's
just
like
an
instantaneous
turn
off
for
proof
of
work.
Now
I
guess
in
theory
you
know
with
any
hard
fork
you
could
have
both
chains
continue
like
they
could
continue
with
the
proof
of
work
chain
on
ethereum.
B
I
think,
like
personally,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
difficult
for
any
miners
to
pull
off,
even
if
there's
some
economic
incentive
to
do
it,
because
there's
so
many
daps
and
you
know
like
application,
layer,
projects
and
protocols
and
even
centralized
exchanges
that
are
gonna
pick
a
winner
here
right
and
I
think
the
social
consensus
is
pretty
strong.
That,
like
the
merge
and
proof
of
stake,
needs
to
happen,
and
this
is
like
a
core
tenet
of
like
ethereum's
value
proposition.
A
Another
interesting
thing
kind
of
piggybacking
on
that
is
proof
of
work
miners.
What
exactly
do
you
guys
feel
is
going
to
happen
with
that?
Obviously,
there's
been
a
big
explosion
and
gpu
mining
and,
like
computer
hardware
being
utilized
for
the
ethereum
network,
I'm
curious
if
you
guys
think
that
that's
going
to
migrate
somewhere.
I
know
there's
talks
of
ravencoin
and
ethereum
classic,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
you
had
any
opinions
on
that.
E
You
know
yeah,
you
even
mentioned
the
term
in
the
beginning
is
for
many
many
years
now
people
have
been
thinking
like
once.
We
have
eth2,
which
this
is
not
called
eth2
anymore
after
the
merge
just
ethereum
running
proof
of
stake,
but
that
it
was
always
said.
Like
oh
wait
till
we
have
eth2,
then
then
things
will
be
more
scalable
and
you
know
the
network
can
scale,
but
at
first
there's
basically
yeah
when
the
merge
happens,
there's
no
additional
scaling
or
the
network
getting
cheaper.
E
That
is
very
clear
and
apparent,
and
so
that
whole
like,
but
not
like
if
we
work
in
the
space,
we're
probably
aware
of
that
by
now
that
the
scaling
is
supposed
to
come
on
layer,
twos
and
things
on
top
of
ethereum,
which
is
going
to
be
running
proof
of
stake,
but
maybe
it's
a
little
bit
more
efficient
like
economically
as
a
network
and
like
you're,
not
wasting
money
on
proof
of
work.
But
it's
not
like
once
this
merge
happens.
E
It's
not
like
all
of
a
sudden
ethereum
becomes
the
like
much
more
scalable
chain
or
anything,
but
the
world,
probably
like
many
people
in
the
world,
probably
still
think
that
that
is
the
because
they
heard
that
in
the
past
they
they
think.
That's
gonna
happen
when
the
marriage
happens,
and
they
may
be
disappointed
by
that,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
might
be
in
for
a
a
shock
which
is
an
interesting
dynamic,
because
it's
the
merge
happens.
E
B
I
mean
in
the
long
term
roadmap
you
know,
does
do
that
eventually,
but
like
the
merge
as
an
event,
does
not
effectively
really
change
the
like
block
yeah,
like
the
amount
of
transaction
throughput
on
ethereum's
l1.
So
I
think
the
main
effects
are
just
that
yeah
you're,
switching
off
proof
of
work
so
now
you're
no
longer
consuming
all
that
energy
or
wasting
all
that
energy
with
mining
and
yeah.
B
I
think
that
that's
the
main
thing
in
addition
to
that,
you
are
also
now
seeing
like
the
the
fees
getting
burned
as
well
right
with
the
eip
yeah
like
once
that
switches
off
like
the
issuance
is
going
to
change
significantly,
it's
going
to
go
from
most
likely.
The
projections
are
saying
that
it's
going
to
go
from
a
net
like
positive.
I
forget
the
exact
numbers,
but
you
know
it's
some
millions,
a
day
being
issued
to
the
opposite,
where
it's
actually
some
millions
of
dollars
worth
of
eath
per
day
being
burned
so
yeah.
E
F
So
someone
messaged
me
yesterday
saying:
oh
I'm
glad
the
merge
is
coming,
we'll
have
cheaper
transactions
and
I
was
like
no
it's
it's
a
change
of
the
consensus
layer,
not
the
execution
layer
and
the
data
availability,
so
we're
still
going
to
have
high
transaction
costs.
So
yeah,
there's
not
enough
information
for
newcomers
in
the
space
to
wrap
their
heads
around
what's
actually
happening.
E
F
Yeah,
flash
bots
are
a
big
thing
and
a
hot
topic
recently
has
been
the
recent
met,
boost
proposal
and
basically
it
kind
of
decentralizes,
mev
and
and
validators
would
be
able
to
compete.
But
then,
once
someone
wins
the
auction,
they
can
still
actually
exploit
meth
to
their
benefit,
so
it
kind
of,
like
still
doesn't
benefit
users
in
the
end
and
as
john
said
earlier,
the
basically
the
hope
for
cheaper
transactions
and
and
for
the
ethereum
network
to
scale
is
really
betting
on
rollups
and
sharding.
F
And
while
the
merge
happens,
kind
of
like
overnight
sharding
is
gonna
happen
throughout
a
longer
period.
It's
it's
not
an
overnight
thing
and
it
it
at
the
moment
with
roll-ups
roll-ups
themselves
are
kind
of
off-chain
so
that
they
can
scale
unboundedly,
but
the
bottleneck
is
still
the
data,
availability,
layer
and
layer,
one
so
with
just
roll-ups
alone.
We
cannot
really
scale.
We
need
sharding
and
sharding
being
something
that
will
take
a
long
time.
Basically,
cheaper
transactions
are
far
into
the
future,
and
sharding
itself
is
not
like
this
magical
thing.
F
That
is,
gonna
fix
everything
because
the
shards
like,
if
we
think
of
the
64
shards
the
data
availability
on
each
of
those,
is
not
one
to
one
with
the
main
nets
we
have
today,
it's
kind
of
like
probably
half
or
even
a
third
of
that.
So
if
we
think
of
64
shards,
basically
we
we
would
probably
increase
data
availability
by
at
most
three
times
what
we
have
right
now
so
in
even
in
the
best
case
scenario,
we
we
don't
reduce
transaction
costs
that
much.
F
And
fun
fact
sorry
fun
fact
john
mentioned
the
difficulty
bomb
and
something
interesting
with
the
robson
test
net
merge
was
a
dev
realized
like
a
couple
of
months
ago,
just
hours
before
a
premature
merge
was
about
to
happen
because
some
were
saying
the
malicious
dev
kind
of
like
did.
This.
Others
are
saying
it's
just
a
low
hash
rate
on
the
test
net
compared
to
mainnet.
F
B
And-
and
I
think
another
kind
of
interesting
question
topic
that
you
know
is
probably
a
bit
over
my
head,
but
is
like
the
question
of
like
you
know,
to
what
extent
is
proof
of
stake
going
to
enable
decentralization
right,
like
I
think
the
ideal
world
that
we
would
like
to
see?
Is
you
know
thousands
and
thousands
of
stakers?
You
know
with
their.
B
You
know,
however,
many
validators
on
their
machines
like
running
them
locally,
geographically
distributed,
but
there's
been
like
you
know,
some
interesting
points
and
criticisms
of
a
lot
of
the
you
know,
beacon,
chain,
validators
being
run
on
aws
servers
and
also
like
a
concentration
amongst
the
liquid
staking
pools.
I
think
in
particular,
lido
has
gotten
the
lion's
share
of
like
liquid
staking
and
some
of
the
you
know,
kind
of
centralization
tendencies
and
risks
that
that
creates.
A
A
G
It
was
actually
kind
of
a
joke,
but
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
read
the
book
a
higher
guide
to
the
galaxy,
but
I
just
feel
like
when
we
ever
when
we
finally
have
the
merge
it's
gonna,
be
like
it's
gonna,
be
like
such
a
disappointment,
because
we've
all
been
like
waiting
for
this
moment
for
so
many
years,
but
yeah
it
was.
It
was
funnier
a
few
minutes
ago.
A
Excellent
folks,
shall
we
chat
a
bit
about
optimism
here
before
heading
into
the
rest
of
our
schedule.
I
want
to
chat
a
bit
about
it,
of
course,
going
to
drop
the
the
post
mortem
here
in
the
chat,
those
of
you
joining
us
late.
You
can
find
the
chat
for
this
call
in
our
discord.
You
can
click
on
dxnow's
profiled
host
and
find
the
discord
link
in
the
profile.
A
A
A
B
Only
know
what
I've
seen
on
twitter,
so
it's
somewhat
limited
in
depth,
but
it
was
actually
a
little
bit
more
than
just
the
fact
that
wintermute
could
not
access
the
tokens
because
they
hadn't
deployed
their
gnosis
safe
on
optimism
network.
So
you
know
they
basically
gave
an
address
to
optimism
that
they
had
a
gnosis
safe
for
on
mainnet,
but
had
not
yet
deployed
that
same
noses,
safe
using
getting
the
same
address
on
optimism,
which
takes
some
effort
to
get
the
same
address
right.
B
Certain
conditions
have
to
be
met,
excuse
me
and
what
ended
up
happening
actually,
when
they
and
and
this
is
where
it's
a
little
bit
unclear
exactly
like
the
sequence
of
events
and
how
it
could
have
happened,
but
somebody
else
an
attacker
actually
deployed
their
safe
ahead
of
them
on
optimism
with
you
know
the
attacker's
address
set
as
an
owner,
which
apparently
is
not
possible
in
the
latest
releases
of
gnosis
safe,
but
because
winter
mute
was
using
a
safe.
That's
like
a
couple
years
old.
B
A
B
You
know,
there's
still
a
good
deal
of
centralization
with
the
optimism
roll
up
in
terms
of
the
team
controlling
the
chain
right,
it's
not
decentralized,
it's
not
permissionless
yet
so
I
was
actually
thought
it
was
interesting
that
they
were
committing
to
letting
the
attack
stand
and
like
just
kind
of
saying,
hey.
This
is
permissionless.
I
suspect.
Maybe
part
of
that
calculus
is
that
you
know
it
wasn't
their
fault
per
se
and
wintermute
is
agreeing
to
actually
cover
the
losses
by.
You
know
repurchasing
the
tokens
as
they
get.
F
B
Right
so
so,
there's
no
actual,
like
ultimate
negative
effect
to
like
the
token
supply
or,
like
you
know,
being
dumped.
Of
course
we
have
seen
the
price
go
down,
but
but
ultimately
winter
mute
is
like
going
to
make
them
whole.
So
I
guess
that
sort
of
takes
away
the
motivation
to
like
kind
of
yeah
modify
the
chain
and
which
would
also
be
maybe
a
negative
thing
for
the
optimism
brand
in
the
image
that
they're
trying
to
create.
So
but
it's
it's
all
very
interesting.
E
E
E
If
yeah,
I
guess
winner
mute,
could
have
asked
us
and
we
yeah
it's
partly,
and
the
reason
apparently
is
because
optimism
enforces
eip155,
and
that
is
something
that
is
preventing
the
current
factory
from
allowing
you
to
use
a
certain
function
within
their
factory
that
allows
you
to
achieve
the
same
address
with
the
same
owners
on
optimism
chain,
which
is
a
pretty
unique.
I
think
augusto
I
don't
know
if
he's
here
was,
was
mentioning
that
that
is
in
general,
a
problem
right,
that
is,
for
a
layer
two
that
has
kind
of
different.
E
I
don't
know
if
this
is
opcode
or
the
eip
or
if
there's
a
little
bit
of
mix
of
both
that
has
some
differences
that
that
people
need
to
be
very
aware
of
when
they
are
building
in
a
multi-chain
world.
These
are
the
things
that
that
you
only
learn
that
yet
people
mainly
only
learn
about
when
big
money
gets
lost
like
in
this
scenario
and
now
people,
unless
they
don't
pay
attention,
will
probably
not
make
this
mistake
in
this
scale
going
forward
again
but
yeah.
E
And
what's
that's
interesting,
john,
your
point
about
the
an
attacker
and
this
could
be
an
attacker.
It
could
be
random,
but
someone
that's
able
to
get
that
optimism
that
same
address
on
optimism,
because
it
was
an
old
old
factory,
is
something
interesting
and
I
think
that's
yeah
part
of
the
reason.
Dx
dow
can't
do
that
because
we're
using
the
latest
new
factory-
and
so
we
are
specifically
not
able
to
get
that
address
on
optimism.
B
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
say
that
as
well.
It
must
be
the
difference
between
the
factories
that
you
know
is
preventing
us
from
getting
the
same
address,
but
allowed
this
attacker
and
again
just
from
twitter,
but
it
appears
this
was
definitely
coordinated
and
intentional,
because
it
seems
like
this
attacker
address
actually
like
deployed,
like
some
large
number
of
safes,
to
get
to
the
right
nonce
in
order
to
like
actually
attack
the
winter
mute,
I'm
safe,
but.
E
Yeah,
so
so
that
is
also
interesting,
because
there
is
a
scenario
where
yeah,
where
safes
have
been
created
on
non-mainnet
chains
in
scale,
and
there
is
it's
not
random.
Maybe
I
guess
random's,
not
the
right
word,
but
it's
in
order
of
getting
the
right
nonce
and
that
allows
you
to
achieve
like
achieve
the
the
same,
safe
address
as
other
chains
as
like
mainnet
or
other
chains.
But
that's
it's
almost
like
brute
force
attack.
I
yeah
I
see
so.
B
F
Yeah,
I
I'm
not
a
fan
of
you
know.
Code
is
low.
I
I
in
fact
the
opposite,
but
I
liken
this
incident
a
little
to
squatting
domains
and
I
don't
think
the
attacker
should
be
called
an
attacker.
It's
not
really
a
hack.
It's
like
you
are
squatting
on
on
some.
You
know
you're
poaching,
some
addresses
that
are
nobodies
like
nobody
has
really
got
a
claim
on
them,
so
you
you're
not
doing
really
anything
wrong
and
just
those
guys
are
just
messing
up
on
their
own
with
their
ignorance.
F
So
you
know
you
always
sky
pointed
like
you
always
have
to
double
check
if
you're
not
sure,
but
I'm
glad.
This
kind
of
problem
is
just
about
old
and
new
gnosis
factories,
and,
and
has
it's
it's
different
on
eoa
addresses.
So
it's
kind
of
good
news,
because
otherwise
it
would
have
created
a
huge
problem
with
ens
names,
because
you
know
how
your
ens
domain
is
associated
with
an
address,
and
sometimes
people
automatically
think
yeah.
You
could
use
my
ens
name
on
on
this
other
network.
F
B
You
know
where
they
were
doing
something
on
their
own
and
accidentally
ended
up
with
the
same
address.
I
actually
think
the
chances
of
something
like
that
happening
accidentally
like
for
just
any
address
like
if
you're
just
creating
a
new
address,
the
it's
like
infinitesimally,
small,
vanishingly,
small,
and
that's
what
makes
you
know.
Crypto
networks
work
right.
B
The
fact
that
when
you
get
an
address,
there's
the
domain
space
for
those
possible
addresses
is
so
large
that
the
chances
of
a
collision
or
like
vanishingly
small
now
like
you
could
maybe
have
other
accidental
collisions
if
you
were
using
the
same
factory
or
something,
and
that
was
supported
somewhere.
But
again.
This
was
like
the
old
factory
and
had
just
been
deployed
to
help
the
winter
mute
team
and
optimism
out.
B
So
it
definitely
seemed
like
a
coordinated
attack
with
the
intention
of
like
stealing
these
funds,
but
but
yeah
like
it
is
good
that
this
is
just
the
old
safe
as
well
like
this.
Hopefully,
this
type
of
attack
on
safes
is
going
to
be
very
limited
and
relatively
easy
for
people
to
avoid,
but,
like
we
were
talking
about
a
little
bit
earlier,
just
a
working
multi-chain
and
like
knowing
which
addresses
you
have
on
which
chain
is
a
general
problem
that
everybody's
going
to
have
going
forward
right.
B
B
E
One
more
thing
on
on
this
because
yeah,
even
though
I
would
say
dx
dao,
does
not
depend
on
safes.
Dx
dao
as
a
dao
may
have
some
of
the
most
sophisticated,
safe
setups
of
any
entities.
Organizations
or
dows
out
there
and
part
of
the
reason
is
the
doing,
for
example,
bridge
transfer,
transfers
from
layer
one
to
layer,
two
like,
for
example,
on
arbitrum
less
possible
using
a
safe
on
optimism,
because
we
can't
get
the
same
address.
But
I'm
pretty
sure
dxdao
is
the
first
entity
in
the
world
to
ever.
E
Do
a
a
bridge
transfer
from
layer,
one
onto
arbitrary,
using
gnosis
safe
and
like
the
work
yeah
working
with
arbitrary
team
to
accomplish
that.
Basically,
the
fact
that
it
didn't
exist-
and
no
one
had
done
it
is
like
proves
that
dx
dow
was
the
first
person
to
do
it
basically
and
that's
going
to
be
yeah
more
and
more
important.
And
so
almost
all
this
bridging
activity
from
layer,
one
to
layer,
two
or
probably
later
ones.
E
The
later
ones
is
happening
from
eoas
and
that
just
that
often
is
obviously
a
big
risk
that
exists
in
this
space,
because
eoas
are
could
be
a
lot
less
secure
than
multisigs,
and
so
you
hope
that
people
will
start
using
multi-cigs
more
for
cross-chain
transactions
and
dx.
Dao
is
also
has
some
of
the
most
experience
in
in
that,
even
though
yeah
we
also
do
stuff
on
chain
through
our
dao.
A
Excellent
well,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
the
insights
really
fun
to
talk
broad
kind
of
ecosystem
topics,
but
transitioning
now
into
a
little
bit
more
dx
style,
specific
things
I
want
to
quickly
give
the
stage
for
some
recaps.
We
do
have
swapper
and
dxgov
on
the
agenda.
I
don't
know
venky
if
you'd
like
to
take
that
away,
give
us
a
little
sneak
peek
of
what's
going
on
in
the
swapper
world
in
the
last
two
weeks,.
H
Okay,
so
last
week
we
had
our
beta
12
live,
and
some
of
the
changes
that
we
saw
in
beta
12
are
the
new
swap
box,
and
then
we
also
enabled
support
for
polygon,
and
through
this
we
have
yeah.
We
have
added
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
texas,
sushi
swap
and
define
for
polygon,
and
now
we
are
currently
working
through
planning
for
beta
13..
H
Apart
from
this,
we
are,
we
are
almost
there
with
completing
updating
the
diy
farming
page.
So
with
this
update,
we
have,
we
have
opened
up
multiple
rewards
that
could
be
created
by
the
campaign
creator.
So
until
now
we
have,
it
has
been
only
possible
that
the
campaign
created
could
only
reward
one
token,
but
now
he
can
choose
up
to
four
tokens
as
rewards,
and
we
have
also
enabled
support
for
creating
campaigns
for
single
tokens
taking.
H
So
any
projects
that
wants
to
create
a
campaign
wants
to
take
a
single
token,
then
yeah
we
could
swapper
should
be
able
to
handle
that,
and
also
a
small
model
for
simulation
where
the
campaign
creators
can
actually
simulate
how
campaigns
apis
are
going
to
be
set
up.
What
is
what
is
the?
What
is
the
expected
stake
limit
that
they
want
to
have
like
a
bunch
of
things
that
are
there
in
the
simulation?
H
A
D
A
Okay-
I
don't
know
I
don't
really
know
what's
going
on.
I
don't
know
why
it
would
cut
my
voice
out,
but
I
am
here
and
sorry
for
not
ushering
you
in.
Thank
you,
no
problem
cool
cool.
Well,
next
up
we
have
dxgov
ross.
Would
you
like
to
give
a
quick
little
insight
into
what
you
guys
have
going
on
sure
yeah,
so.
I
I
hope,
hopefully
you
can
hear
me
yeah
yeah.
I
think
the
the
last
treasure
space
we
gave
like
a
pretty
brief,
update
and
pointed
people
towards
the
q2ish
update.
So
if
you
missed
that,
you
can
refer
back
essentially,
we've
just
been
kind
of
executing
on
that,
moving
over
and
splitting
up
the
two
applications
and
to
the
export
legacy,
which
is
focused
more
on
stable
stability.
Although
for
anyone
that's
been
trying
to
use
it.
I
But
there's
yeah:
that's
now,
given
us
some
more
work
to
do
as
well
as
sort
of
letting
us
move
forward
about
with
potential
deployments
of
some
of
the
contracts
for
the
the
new
wallet
schemes
we'll
be
using
internally,
indeed
style
and
guilds.
We
have
a
few
improvements
to
make,
but
the
you
know
it
was
very
good
from
sigma
prime,
so
yeah
we'll
just
be
continuing
working
on
that
for
the
next
little
while.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
very
much
ross
cool
cool.
We
have
a
couple
other
topics
today.
We
could
probably
go
into
them,
for
you
know
in
deep
detail,
but
just
being
conscious
of
the
fact
that
we're
10
minutes
off
the
top
there,
and
I
don't
want
to
keep
anyone
too
long-
let's
be
a
little
more
time
conscious,
but
the
first
topic
I
want
to
quickly
chat
about
was
delegating
treasury
management
to
karpatky
dao,
which
is
a
topic.
That's
been
in
the
forum
for
some
time.
A
C
Sure
and
we'll
not
be
able
to
capture
everything
so
we'll
first
off
direct
people
both
to
the
forum
thread
or
also
yesterday's
governance
discussion
when
capacity
presented
so
kaparki
is
a
asset
manager.
They
manage
currently
gnosis
dao's
treasury,
which
is
about
500
500
million
dollars.
Those
that
follow,
along
with
the
nurses
forum
can
see
their
reports
as
they
outline
the
various
positions
that
they
have
taken
and
adjusted
over
the
previous
weeks.
C
So
they
had
been
talking
with
various
members
of
the
deep
stack
community
about
maybe
trying
to
recreate
some
types
of
services
from
there
that
they're
doing
for
nurses
now
for
de-except,
and
so
this
proposal
would
basically
potentially
be
the
first
step
of
that.
Now
there
are
kind
of
a
couple
things
I
think
to
point
out
with
with
this
that
the
first
and
foremost
is
this
is
a
separate.
C
This
would
be
a
separate
type
of
treasury
management
that
zeke
style
has
done
before
so
for
most
of
deep
styles
treasury
management,
whether
that's
the
buyback
or
whether
it's
liquidity,
provisioning,
swapper,
that's
gone
through
deekstyle
governance,
now
investment
and
and
rebalancing
requires
a
lot
of
adjustments
and
things
that
maybe
don't
have
that
can't
go
through
governance.
So
this
proposal
and
kind
of
working
with
capacity
would
be.
We
try
to
maybe
bypass
some
of
those
governance
mechanisms
right
now
in
order
to
implement
this
more
financially
sophisticated
system
through
a
multi-sig.
C
So
that
is
the
discussions
going
on
now.
There's
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
about
the
opportunity
here
to
earn
an
additional
some,
maybe
some
additional
extra
yield
on
the
treasury,
but
maybe
the
downside
being
that
some
of
the
the
treasury
sovereignty
that
deeks
out
like
values
is
lost
long
term.
There's
a
lot
of
agreement
between
the
parky
geeksdown
community
about
the
need
to
build
decentralized,
trustless
infrastructure
to
manage
treasuries
for
dao.
C
This
is,
I
really
think,
like
you
know,
as
you
said,
like
a
trillion
dollar
market,
that
going
forward
as
all
of
these
pools
of
capital
move
on
unchained
and
as
they're
all
managed
by
these
different
dows
and
different
d5
protocols.
There
will
need
to
be
smart
contract
infrastructure
that
actually
facilitates
the
trading
of
that.
That
does
not
rely
on
individual
signers
or
people
to
kind
of
like
double
check,
and
so
that's
the
type
of
tooling
decentralized,
tooling
that
deekstyle
wants
to
build.
F
A
Excellent
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
chris
for
the
context
and
I've
put
the
form
thread
in
the
chat
here
on
discord.
If
anyone
is
looking
for
it,
it
is
also
one
of
the
top
discussions
in
the
last
week,
so
it
should
pop
up
right
away
when
you're
visiting
dow
talk
next
up,
I
want
to
quickly
highlight
the
new
swapper
farms
which
launched
about
50
minutes
ago.
I
won't
call
attention
to
individual
pairs,
but
I
want
to
quickly
mention
that
the
cow
cares
for
those
of
you
who
are
farming
cow.
A
A
So
we
have
a
two-week
kind
of
interim
campaign
for
cow,
you'll
need
to
stake
on
that
and
unstake
in
two
weeks
and
then,
presumably
after
the
fact,
we
will
have
a
longer
allocation
of
cow
instead
of
four
weeks.
Looking
for
something
like
eight
to
twelve
area,
so
there'll
be
a
little
bit
of
micromanagement
for
you,
cow
farmers
here
in
the
next
week
or
so
and
then,
hopefully
less
after
the
fact.
So
keep
your
eyes
peeled
for
that
we'll
be
sharing
an
announcement
shortly
once
we
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
confirmation.
A
C
A
Cow
cow:
what
is
it
cow
wrangler?
That
was
my
kind
of
my
self-proclaimed
title
for
the
first
week
of
deployments,
I
love
cow
wrangling,
what
a
fun
fun
term
yeah
our
last
topic
here
in
the
last
couple
minutes.
I
want
to
quickly
highlight
dxf's,
state
of
audits
and
kind
of
forward-looking
what
we
have
going
on
with
audits.
You
know
what
we
have
done
with
audits.
B
We
also
are
having
the
guild,
which
is
the
erc20
guilds
being
developed
by
dxgov
audited
by
sigma
prime,
and
we
got
the
initial
report
back
from
sigma
prime
and
are
currently
processing
that
this
is
interesting,
because
sigma
prime
is
one
of
the
top
auditing
firms.
It
does
cost
quite
a
bit
of
money
to
work
with
them,
but
they
are
one
of
the
best
in
the
business
and
I
think
we're
seeing
this
in
the
quality
of
the
report,
which
will
be
shared
in
due
time
once
once.
B
It's
kind
of
processed
we'll
be
publishing
that
so
that
the
whole
community
can
see
it
and
in
addition,
we
are
also
cueing
up
audits
for
carat
v1.
So
this
is,
you
know,
an
iteration
on
the
smart
contracts
for
carrot,
which
is
live
with
the
alpha
system.
Right
now,
currently
carrot
that
alpha
only
supports
single
erc,
20
collateral
and
using
reality.eth
as
an
oracle.
B
The
the
v1
will
have
a
lot
more
flexibility,
supporting
any
types
of
oracle
templates
and
also
any
type
of
kpi
token
template,
meaning
that
we
could
have
multiple
erc20
collateral,
nfts
or
anything.
You
could
imagine
in
the
initial
audit
we'll
be
including
a
template
for
multiple
erc20
tokens
and
also
with
that
will
come
support
for
multi-condition
logic,
where
you
can
actually
weight
different
conditions
with
different
weights
in
the
carrick
campaign.
So
this.
B
B
So
looking
forward
to
a
carrot,
v1
release
later
this
year,
there's
also
a
couple
other
smaller
things
going
on
with
auditing,
including
we
just
got
the
report
back
for
a
curve
wrapper
which
so
helps
swapper
eco
routing
on
gnosis
chain,
by
enabling
the
swapper
user
to
trade
with
the
native
currency
directly,
instead
of
having
to
separately
make
the
step
to
wrap
extine
themselves.
But
yeah.
F
B
A
Yeah
fantastic.
Thank
you
very
much,
john
for
stepping
on
stage
here
with
the
cow
wrangler
gonna
put
in
the
chat
here,
a
link
relevant
link
to
those
of
you
that
may
or
may
not
be
aware.
We
added
technical
documentation
to
the
stocks
not
long
ago,
so
we
do
actually
have
a
section
with
all
of
our
previously
published
audits,
and
I
would
assume
john
would
work
together
on
making
sure
that's
updated.
After
all
of
these
new
ones,
coming
in
for
v1
and
guilds,
absolutely
yeah,
yeah
fantastic.
A
I
think
just
at
the
top
of
the
hour
here,
gonna
wrap
it
up.
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
has
any
final
questions,
concerns
or
thoughts,
but
one
thing
I
want
to
quickly
highlight
is
the
dx.landing
page
update,
which
is
boosted
and
expected
to
finish
in
a
day
and
three
hours.
I
believe,
let's
see
here
one
day,
three
hours,
33
minutes
so
yeah
coming
up
tomorrow.
A
This
isn't
a
very
massive
change,
but
a
lot
of
broken
links
and
missing
information
has
kind
of
been
rectified,
so
everything
should
be
a
little
bit
more
concise
a
little
bit
more
accurate.
So
that's
a
fun
thing
to
kind
of
look
forward
to
on
the
dxed.e
front
page,
but
opening
the
stage
up
to
anyone
here
with
some
final
thoughts,
questions
concerns
topics.
A
Excellent
well,
thank
you
very
much
everyone
for
being
here.
Thank
you
very
much
to
our
speakers
very
much
so
appreciate
you
being
up
here,
we'll
see
you
actually
in
discord
next
week
for
our
weekly
community
call
will
be
happening
on
discord
stages
and
then
the
week
after
that,
looking
forward
to
hopefully
operation
decentralization,
the
first
episode
but
again
pay
attention
to
our
socials
and
discord
and
twitter
for
a
formal
update
on
that
probably
early
next
week.
A
So
whether
or
not
the
first
episode
will
be
the
week
after
next
week
or
it'll,
be
a
little
bit
later,
but
yeah
we'll
see
you
next
week
in
discord,
you
can
find
the
event
in
the
events
tab
at
the
top
left
of
our
server,
so
you
can
find
that
and
pay
attention
to
it
and
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
we'll
see
you
next
time.