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A
Hello
and
welcome
to
txtau's
weekly
strategy
call
Friday
September
2nd.
Today
on
the
agenda,
we
got
a
discussion
on
the
swapper
buyback,
a
Refresh
on
the
upcoming
expeditions
and
then
we'll
have
a
discussion
regarding
the
follow-up
on
the
recent
posts
regarding
focus
and
restructuring
for
DXL
venki.
Would
you
like
to
share.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
we
collected
some
fees,
I
think
we
have
about
seven
seven
and
a
half
feet
collected
in
the
arbit
room,
and
then
we
had
about
32
35
000,
probably
in
gnosis
chain
and
I,
was
wondering
if
you
have
to
start
doing
BuyBacks
what
is
the
best
way
and
then
I
was
reaching
out
to
Dave,
and
then
we
thought
that
yeah,
it's
better
to
just
have
this
talked
over
in
the
strategy,
call
just
to
brain
someone
and
see
what
should
be
the
next
steps
so
yeah
should
we
should
we
do
the
BuyBacks
like
we
do
DxD
BuyBacks,
or
should
we
use
multi-six
for
the
BuyBacks
or
or.
C
A
We
we
wouldn't
be
having
the
same
concept
like
in
terms
of
security,
because
when
you
prioritize
security,
there's
a
drawback
and
that's
efficiency
in
in
time
and
overhead.
So
maybe
we
could
do
this
in
a
more
efficient
way
by
relying
on
a
multi-sig.
A
Do
we
have
Dave
here
by
the
way
yeah
I
know
Lily
recently
suggested
in
Discord
that
we
could
look
into
the
into
Cal
swap
to
conduct
BuyBacks,
but
as
far
as
I
remember,
there
was
still
some
roadblock
for
us
to
use
it,
but
I
wonder
whether
that
was
relating
to
just
DxD
or
whether
it
would
still
be
valid
for
swap
or
if
we
decided
to
use
Cal
swap
for
swapper
by
back
and
and
would
that
be
the
basically
the
the
shortcut
of
using
a
multi-sig.
B
And
if
we
want
to
use
cow
swap,
then
we
could
do
it
only
in
gnosis
chain.
We
cannot
use
arbitrum,
so
we'll
probably
have
to
bridge
the
heat
back
to
losses
chain
and
then
do
all
of
the
BuyBacks
and
losses
chain
I'm,
not
too
sure.
If
that
is
how
we
would
want
to
do.
E
D
F
B
It
helps
us
to
boost
swapper
during
this
ODC
period.
I
think
the
Odyssey
campaign
starts
around
end
of
September
or
by
the
time
that
we
have
swapper
in
the
ODC.
I
think
it'll
be
probably
end
of
September
or
beginning
of
October.
B
Maybe
so
I
think
it's
better
to
start
now
with
all
these
discussions
of
BuyBacks
and
then
by
the
time
that,
like
one
or
two
weeks
before
swappers
Odyssey
week,
is
there
if
you
have
a
decent
swap
or
a
price
I,
guess
it's
easier
to
attract
LPS
without
any.
You
know
kind
of
these
carrots
like
okay,
ODC
nfts
or
software
Expedition
nfts.
A
B
Arbitrary
I
I
think
it's
it's
fluctuating
a
bit
here
and
there
so
I,
don't
know
right
now,
but
I
I
guess
I
would
probably
think
it
is
arbitrum.
Yeah
I
think
it
is
arbitrary.
A
Yeah
there
are
more
than
4
400
addresses,
holding
about
18
million
tokens
on
Arbitron
and
and
and
the
amount
and
number
of
addresses
on
noses
chain
pales
in
comparison
and
mainnet
is
even
worse
yeah.
So
it's
it's
mostly.
A
It
could
be
a
good
chain
reaction
that
could
amplify
Odyssey
if,
if
we
do
the
expeditions
right
before
it
now,
with
the
pending
merge
on
the
15th
of
September
I,
don't
believe
The
Odyssey
will
resume
right,
then
it
it
would
likely
be
towards
the
end
of
the
month
so
and
and
if
even
when
it
resumes,
we
are
in
week,
six
of
the
Odyssey
so
optimistically,
The
swapper
Odyssey
will
be
sometime
mid-november.
A
So
maybe
here
comes
the
question
to
Keenan
about
how
long
we're
going
to
be
running.
The
Expeditions
and
I
also
have
another
question.
Now
that
we've
depleted
the
and
kind
of
like
the
multi-chain
liquidity
mining
is
pretty
much
coming
to
an
end
each
chain
catching
up
to
the
25
Epoch
allocation.
A
We
won't
be
having
recurring
farming
going
on
and
the
condition
for
the
swap
Artistry
was
for
people
to
stake
in
farms.
But
if
those
Farms
don't
exist,
should
we
be
thinking
ahead
of
time
and
trying
to
organize
some
farming
campaigns
specifically
for
that
month,
when,
when
the
swap
artists
will
be
happening,
so
people
could
fulfill
the
condition.
F
Yeah
took
the
the
words
right
out
of
my
mouth
actually
I.
Think,
regardless
of
what
happens
with
this
discussion,
you
know
what's
actually
the
emissions
we
have
our
final
campaign
for
arbitrum
up
now
and
I
think
there's
like
a
two-week
extra
for
gnosis
chain,
but
regardless
of
what
happens
with
the
next
steps
for
those,
if
that
gets
extended,
there
will
be
special
campaigns
alongside
the
Odyssey
slash
Expeditions
week.
That
just
makes
the
most
sense
to
me.
We
have
an
unallocated
fund
that
we
can
use
for
that
specific
purpose.
F
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
conflict
there.
Foreign
excuse
me
and
then
maybe
kind
of
segling,
that
into
a
bit
of
a
context,
call
for
Expeditions.
For
those
of
you
not
aware,
you
might
have
noticed
it
in
the
in
the
UI
of
the
15
update,
but
Expeditions
is
kind
of
a
framework
that
we've
been
working
on
to
keep
users
engaged,
particularly
with
the
swapper
front
end.
F
You
know
basically
dangling
a
metaphorical
carrot,
for
you
know,
engaging
with
their
front
end
participating
in
our
campaigns
and
such
we'll
have
rewards
titles,
custom,
UI
elements,
a
couple
other
interesting
things.
Of
course
it's
just
the
beta,
so
we
can
do
a
lot
with
it.
F
The
important
thing
is
that
it's
a
framework
that
we
can
use
for
these
things,
I
guess
the
conditions
right
away
were
initially
going
to
be
like
visiting,
swapping
lping
and
I
think
we
kind
of
reduced
that
for
the
beta
just
to
keep
things
tight
and,
like
you
know,
we're
just
trying
to
test
the
feature
but
overarching.
The
idea
is
like
this
framework
that
we
can
use.
Of
course,
marketing
is
very
difficult
and
you
know
a
world
where
we
have
to
keep
everything
completely
decentralized.
F
You
know
we
don't
have
Google
ads,
so
this
is
a
framework
that
we
can
use
to
pay
attention
to
who's.
Doing
what
to
get
people
to
pay
attention
to
our
front.
F
End
stay
on
our
front
end
yeah,
so
the
first
one
tentatively
named
exhibitions
beta
I
was
supposed
to
launch,
alongside
the
Odyssey
of
course,
there's
a
big
question
mark
with
the
Odyssey
right
now
as
Nathan
mentioned,
but
it
would
expect
it
to
be
like
a
smaller
requirement
kind
of
event,
not
an
insane
amount
of
conditions,
not
in
the
same
amount
of
things
to
do
mostly,
this
kind
of
a
fun
flavorful
hey
getting
ready
for
expeditions
kind
of
thing
and
and
giving
a
reward
to
those
participating
in
it,
which
would
lead
into
an
eventual
release
of
expeditions
that
would
have
a
larger
you
know
kind
of
support
from
content
more
of
these
kind
of
rewards.
F
So
that's
kind
of
the
goal,
we're
kind
of
experimenting
with
nft's
profile,
accents
profile,
titles,
thinking
about
a
couple
different
things
expect
a
little
bit
more
here,
considering
the
Odyssey
and
what's
going
on
with
that
and
yeah
I,
think
it's
good
update,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
questions
or
specific
questions,
venky
I
think
you're,
the
one
that
brought
it
up.
B
I
I
asked
a
lot
by
a
lot
of
people
about
what
Expeditions
are
from
within
the
smaller
Squad
and
I
was
just
talking
to
Nathan,
and
then
he
was
like
yeah.
Maybe
it's
also
something
that
he
heard.
That's
why
I
thought
that
maybe
we'll
just
bring
it
up
here
and
for
the
other
people.
A
Yeah,
if
there's
something
we
could
share
internally,
you
know
we
have
the
DAP
in
production
and
we
have
a
Dev
build
that
we're
working
on
and
anyone
can
test
internally.
We
if
we
could
have
something
like
that
for
the
Expedition,
so
we
could
familiarize
ourselves
before
it
goes
live.
F
Yeah
100
an
atom
who's
on
this
call,
we
need
to
sync
up
I
think
we
we
said
we
want
to
do
a
call
today,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
still
have
the
time,
but
we're
actually
going
over
exactly
what
we're
kind
of
talking
about
here.
A
Could
you
share
any
recommendation
of
how
you
feel
it's
best
to
proceed
with
the
and,
of
course
we're
talking
about
it
as
if
it's
something
that
has
been
decided
not
at
all
the
buyback
is
to
be
voted
on
by
token
holders.
So
it
is
something
that
will
first
go
through,
probably
an
Unchained
vote
by
dick
style
and
a
follow-up
snap
or
concurrent
snapshot
for
token
holders
and-
and
we
could
then
move
on.
G
For
Cal
swap
the
thing
is
we
need
to
create
an
order
before
eight
days
before
or
Maynard
five
days
before,
on
grow
this
train.
So
the
issue
is
around
fixing
the
price
at
the
point
of
creating
the
order,
you
can't
fix
it.
You
can
set
it
to
zero
and
then
just
rely
on
the
solver
to
match
at
the
best
price,
but
that
doesn't
seem
like
a
ideal
solution.
G
I
do
have
a
call
with
Cal
swap
on
Tuesday
I
believe
next
week,
because
they
said
there
is
a
way
to
do
it
without
having
to
preset
the
price
I'm,
not
quite
sure
how
that
would
work,
or
maybe
they're
not
intrinsically
familiar
with
our
governance
system,
but
curious
to
hear.
Maybe
they
do
have
a
solution,
and
but
primarily
this
is
for
DxD
buyback
anyway,
but
honestly
for
such
a
small
amount,
I
would
just
do
it
for
a
multi-sig.
So
you
don't
have
the
governance
overhead.
G
You
know
I
think
it's
the
easiest
way,
but
it
can
also
be
done
through
throughout
for
BuyBacks.
It
can
be
done
for
gpv1,
but
that's
something
I
would
definitely
not
recommend,
because
we
would
just
need
to
post
more
our
liquidity
and
the
relay
I
would
have
to
match
more
paths.
G
So
I
would
say:
yeah
easiest
way
is
for
multi-sig.
Second
option
would
be
potentially
through
cow
swap,
but
that
would
have
to
be
yeah
on-chain
governance
proposals.
A
Multiple
sense,
yeah
I
agree
with
all
that.
Maybe
we
wait
defer
until
you
have
that
meeting
and
maybe
get
some
feedback
from
the
Cal
swap
team,
because
that
that
could
help
us.
You
know
if
protection
would
be
crucial,
because
this
this
is
a
type
of
transaction
that
could
be
front,
run
and
yeah
the
the
way
you
explain
it
works
currently
with
the
eight
day.
A
Delay
isn't
ideal
so
unless
they
offer
a
way
for
us
to
go
around
that,
the
multi-seek
is
probably
the
best
solution
and
it
will
be
voted
on.
Of
course,.
D
And
then
the
question
comes
up
with
I
mean
we
have
two
worlds
right
with
liquidity:
two
blockchains
do
we
know?
Okay
did
someone
think
about
what
will
generally
happen
if
we
don't
provide
liquidity
rewards
on
other
trauma
economics
chain
like
do?
We
expect
that
most
of
the
community
would
just
go
away
on
arbitrome,
which
blockchain
will
survive
longer
without
liquidity,
Rewards
I
think
that
is
like
a
an
important
question.
D
We
need
to
find
answers
for
because
then
we
can
actually
like
have
more
impact
with
the
buyback
right.
If
and
like
this
I
think
without
knowing
like
all
the
details,
I
would
probably
diagnosis
chain
is
the
one
who
will
stick
around
for
much
longer
than
arbitrom,
which
would
probably
mean
that
if
we
do,
those
BuyBacks
closes
chain
will
be
the
reference
price
for
swapper,
which
means
potentially
all
the
BuyBacks,
should
have
my
grandchildren.
H
C
B
I
mean
if
we
execute
all
of
the
buyback
in
losses
chain,
then
we
might
probably
have
to
incentivize
more
for
the
swapper
X
die
there,
because
the
buyback
amount
will
be
more
than
the
liquidity.
That
is
there
right
now.
C
A
Will
be
a
huge
candle
up
and
then
a
huge
candle
down
and
we'll
we'll
get
back
to
where
we
are
and
we'll
basically
be
buying
swapper
cheap
from
paper
hands
which,
which
is
still
not
bad
yeah.
A
But
we
would
also
need
to
look
at
the
social
reverberation
kind
of
like
how
how
it's
going
to
reflect
on
on
the
image
of
the
token,
when
people
look
at
the
charts
right,
yeah
yeah,
it
kind
of
it
might
look
a
little
like
a
pump
and
dump
and
yeah
and
people
will
be
looking
at
who's
selling
and
what's
happening.
B
Would
be
nice
to
just
equate
whatever
amounts
that
we
have
and
then
split
them
up
by
some
random
amount,
or
that
doesn't
take
more
than
two
percent
slippage,
or
something
like
that
and
then
buy
back
only
for
that,
but
yeah.
Then
it
gets
into
how
much
overhead
that
we
want
to
do
for
such
a
small
fees
right.
A
All
right,
I
believe
it's
been
a
fairly
good
discussion
regarding
buyback
and
Expeditions
that
we
could
take
into
the
on
key
base
in
the
forums.
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
topic
on
the
agenda,
because
we
only
got
like
a
half
hour
left
and
that
could
be
a
longer
discussion.
Possibly
you
never
know.
Sometimes
it's
relatively
quick
people
are
not
in
the
mood
to
chat
about
heavy
stuff.
Sometimes
conversation
just
flows
and
never
ends
we'll
see
how
this
one
goes.
I'll
give
the
stage
to
Geronimo
and
John.
A
They
just
shared
a
preliminary
doc
dot
after
discussions
could
see
its
place
on
the
Forum
is
a
follow-up
on
the
recent
focus
and
restructuring
post.
So
yeah.
H
Thanks
Nathan
yeah
I
can
share
my
screen
here
in
a
second
and
then
maybe
just
walk
through
the
updates.
A
bit
kind
of
like
the
core
goals,
again
like,
as
initially
stated,
are
to
like
do
some
budget
cuts
and
like
refocus
on
on
how
the
product
development
is
is
done
so
here
let
me
obviously
this
isn't
like
an
easy
discussion.
These
are
not.
You
know.
H
These
are
kind
of
where
we
are
right
now
after
discussions
like
there's,
definitely
plenty
of
room
for
input,
not
only
amongst
ourselves
now,
but,
like
also,
you
know
once
it
goes
back
into
the.
H
So
I
mean
no
giant
Rush
here
like
if
you
know
we
have
this
recorded.
People
can
see
this
there'll
be
plenty
of
time
to
like
Digest
go
over.
I
was
actually
just
putting
everything
into
a
shared
Google
doc
in
terms
of
like
the
just
the
squads,
all
the
contributors.
Wear
these
like
budget
numbers,
like
the
high
level
budget
numbers
come
from
the
stock,
doesn't
really
kind
of
cover
that
this
isn't
that
piece
of
it.
But
okay,
let
me
see,
can
everybody
see
this.
I
H
Okay,
so
like
these
things
that
this
is
expanding,
the
list
that
was
included
in
the
original
post,
some
things
are
essentially
the
same
disengaging
from
contractors
now
that's
primarily
or
entirely
Space
Inch,
and
that's
like
about
a
half
a
million
dollars
a
year
in
spend
from
product.
You
know
it's
mostly
on
on
swapper
and
QA,
there's
three
three
guys
on
swapper
and
one
on
the
QA
Squad.
So
that's
that
limited
the
auditing
budget
to
300K
per
year.
H
H
If
you
want
to
get
your
code
audited
by
the
best
firms
and
and
get
the
industry
standard
like
double
audits
from
independent
parties,
but
the
the
intent
here
is
to
sort
of
set
a
ceiling
on
this
and
force
more
thought
and
discussion
about
how
we
to
our
smart
contract
development
even
ahead
of
time,
like
understanding
that
it's
going
to
cost
a
lot
of
money
on
on
the
auditing
right,
like
I,
think
there's
ways
we
can
be
more
Scrappy
and
more
lean
or
I
mean
I.
H
Think
we
already
actually
have
done
a
decent
job
of
being
Scrappy
and
lean
like
over
the
course
of
the
Excel.
Maybe
lately
we've
been
dipping
our
toes
more
into
kind
of
spending,
the
big
bucks
but
I
think
there's
ways
to
be
Scrappy
and
lean
by
like
how
you
roll
it
out.
Maybe
you
know
capping
the
amount
of
funds
at
risk.
H
You
know
working
with
Boutique
firms
that
don't
have
the
Big
Brand
image,
but
that
we
have
good
relationships
with
and
know
know
our
good,
like
Omega
team
sort
of
fits
into
that,
so
yeah
I
meant
to
really
kind
of
just
like
set
the
tone
on
which
can
be
a
very
significant
budget
item
events
budget.
H
This
is
yes
setting
again
sort
of
like
setting
the
tone
on
the
events.
Budget
still
think
it's
important
for
a
remote
first
Workforce
to
get
in
person
like
once
or
twice
a
year.
So
hopefully
this
this
allows
for
that
and
still
encourages
people
to
get
out.
There.
H
I
heard
something,
but
not
quite
sure
what
it
was
yeah
and
then,
let's
see
this
was
sort
of
an
addition
in
here
which
restrict
the
onboarding
of
the
developer.
So
I
mean
it's
something:
we've
talked
about
for
a
long
time
in
terms
of
like
bringing
on
Junior
developers.
H
This
kind
of
lays
out,
you
know
we
didn't,
have
much
detail
in
the
original
post,
so
this
tries
to
go
into
more
kind
of
specifics
and
make
some
recommendations
on
where
we
could
go
with
that
again.
This
is
like
open
for
discussion
here,
and
you
know
eventually
on
the
Forum.
H
H
Though,
of
course
that,
like
governance
is,
is
everybody's
responsibility
and,
like
you
know,
from
a
budget
standpoint,
we
should
really
understand
that
that
there
is
a
lot
going
in
there
in
terms
of
every
individual's
like
attention
to
the
governance
proposals
on
this
new
kind
of
product
development,
Squad
idea.
So
this
this
is
I.
You
know
I
think,
there's
some
misunderstanding
in
the
original
post
about
what
what
the
intent
was
here.
This
is
essentially
like
a
new
Squad
alongside
every
other
Squad.
It
will
have.
H
You
know
the
same
accountability,
there's
no
new
governance,
power
or
authority
really
here,
but
like
the
goals,
would
be
to
support
like
let's
see
here
like
yeah.
This
squad
will
aim
to
facilitate
the
creation
of
new
product
squads,
Advance
existing
product
squads
with
focused
deliverables
and
conduct
technical
research
to
inform
product
strategy.
So
you
know
the
new
product
squads
I
mean
I.
Think
Mimi
is
like
a
great
example
of
this
of
this
happening.
So,
like
you
know,
the
hope
would
be
to
try
to
facilitate
more
of
that
kind
of
thinking.
H
The
specific
deliverables
are
listed
kind
of
in
priority
here.
You
know
trying
to
address
that.
You
know
people
are
a
little
discontent
with
the
lack
of
delivery
on
on
governance.
2.0
we
don't
want
to
set.
There
is
an
established
Squad.
Obviously
that
is
working
on
this,
and
we
don't
want
to
like
step
on
their
toes
but
like
it
is
number
one
priority
and
whatever
this
squad
can
can
like
do
to
advance
governance
2.0,
it
would
be
like
the
number
one
priority.
H
Swapper
contracts,
like
carrot,
V1
front,
end
or
kind
of
like
the
other
things
that
are
out
there
for
the
existing
squads
and
then
I
think,
like
the
research
idea
is
like
that
we
don't
have
great
product
Market,
fit
and
and
the
world
moves
fast,
especially
crypto,
and
we
need
to
have
some
heads
up
about.
H
What's
what's
going
on
around
us,
I
think
that's
something
that
we
all
do
like
in
our
own
time
or
like
just
as
we
we
go
along,
but
maybe
adding
a
little
more
emphasis
on
that
when
it
comes
to
our
products
like
making
sure
that
we.
H
To
understand,
what's
going
on
around
us
and
discuss
it,
so
this
one
is
a
new
section
and
probably
the
the
biggest
change
it's.
This
is
kind
of
responding
to
a
lot
of
the
feedback
of
like
you
know.
How
does
this
proposal
really
change
the
status
quo
and
I
think
helping
guidelines
on
this
call,
but
he
I
I
thought
like
sort
of
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
with
his
reply
about
accountability.
I
mean
like
for
me
personally.
H
It
was
like
good
just
to
hear
somebody
acknowledge
that,
like
the
past,
it's
sort
of
been
like
me
and
I
think
he
kind
of
missed
it,
but
Geronimo
also
like
acting
sort
of
as
like
this
accountability
team
right
and
like
trying
to
go
around
and
like
make
sure
that,
when
things
weren't
working
well,
we
tried
to
fix
it
up
and
it
it
has
been
very,
like
painful
I,
think
for
the
Dao
overall
for
us
individually,
for
the
people
that
were
trying
to,
like
you
know
like
like
give
feedback
too
so,
like
I,
think
that
the
process
sort
of
is
broken
right
like
I.
H
Think
we
all
see
that
and-
and
so
this
section
here
is-
is
a
sort
of
a
nod
to
nylon
and
like
an
attempt
to
change
how
we
we
do
product
development
and
how
we
like
kind
of
do
accountability
right.
So
the
idea
here
is
is
like,
like
these
four
items
basically
will
be
in
the
hands
of
the
product
squads
to
to
figure
out
and
to
present
to
the
Dao
ahead
of
time
on
some
kind
of
Cycles
right.
So
maybe
it's
two.
H
You
know
six
month:
Cycles,
not
everybody
has
to
be
in
sync
right,
like
squads
will
be
on
their
own
time
frame,
but
like
there'll,
be
four
key
things
right,
so
like
they'll
they'll
have
to
be
a
budget
exactly
how
much
money
they
want
to
spend
and
we're
actually
recommending
here
to
use
a
multi-sig
so
that
the
squads
actually
have
the
responsibility
in
their
hands
with
the
money
and
that
the
governance
has
a
very
clear
focal
point
on
where
to
make
that
decision
on
the
budget.
H
For
that
specific
product
or
Squad,
and
then
you
know
detailed
estimate
of
how
the
funds
will
be
spent
like
with
the
roles
and
stuff,
obviously
like
over
a
six
month
period.
Things
will
change,
so
you
can't
be
perfect
here,
but,
like
kind
of
closest
we
can
get
and
then
big
things
here,
like
clear
goals,
you
know
people
use
the
terms
okr
and
kpis
and
key
performance
indicator
operational
key
requirements.
Those
are
like
just
fancy
like
corporate
jargon,
ways
of
saying
goals
right
so
I
think
we
should.
H
We
should
have
some
humility
here,
but
the
need
for
Simplicity
and
and
try
to
like,
keep
it
as
simple
as
possible
like
I.
Don't
it's
it's
hard,
I
think,
especially
with
like
product
development,
startup,
product
development,
to
develop
and
have
estimates
like
around
us.
When
you
have
a
good
spec
and
with
like
early
stage
products,
the
spec
is
constantly
changing
right.
So
I
think
we
understand
that
estimation.
Is
it's
difficult,
if
not
impossible,
for
what
the
stuff
that
we
kind
of
do?
H
But
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
have
some
simple
goals
right
so,
like
you
know
something
like
get
an
MVP
out
on
chain
for
everybody
to
use
with
like
a
core
set
of
features
like
by
three
months
in
right.
Something
like
this
like
a
focal
point
that
will
force
this
the
product
squads
to
deliver
and
like
kind
of
remove
any
you
know
like
keep
them
focused
and
like
not
spend
effort
on
on
things
that
aren't
absolutely
necessary
to
get
something
out
in
the
hand.
H
So
I
think
that
would
be
like
a
key
thing
that
that
we
probably
would
have
seen
better
results
with
if
we'd
been
using
in
the
past
and
then
nimi
already
sort
of
has
a
Golic
like
this
right
like
the
track?
Well,
actually
they
don't
have
the
jewelry
sorry
I'm,
jumping
ahead,
that's
the
the
traction
goal
so
yeah
and
then
I
mean.
Another
idea
here
is
to
like
make
sure
that
things
are
incentivized
around
the
delivery.
H
This
is
tricky
right
because
people
need
to
pay
bills
and
stuff
like
this
probably
needs
more
discussion
and
fleshing
out
like
how
do
you
actually
incentivize
it?
You
know
maybe
having
a
percentage
of
the
base
compensation
like
contingent
on
the
delivery,
maybe
even
having
some
more
upside
there
and
then
the
other
goal
is
like
a
clear,
simple
traction
goal
right.
So
this
is
more
like
the
the
delivery
goal
is
more
like.
Is
the
product
team
actually
operating
functionally
and
doing
their
job
in
terms
of
development,
and
then
fiscal
is
like?
H
Does
DXL
actually
want
to
focus
on
this
idea?
Is
this
like
strategically
like
a
good
move,
and
we
should
be
reassessing
this
periodically
right?
So
yeah
this
is
like
something
that
I
think
Mimi
has
already
laid
out
with
the
goal
of
raising
outside
Capital
within
six
months,
but
I
mean
this
could
be
other
types
of
traction,
whether
it's
like
number
of.
F
H
And
then
a
couple
more
things
here
that
were
added
on
that
you
know
probably
also
need
more
discussion.
I
mean
along
this
lines
of
like
if
we're
gonna
be
really
focused
on
kind
of
Rapid
or
more
Nimble
product
Cycles.
If
you
look
at
the
current
Mimi
proposal,
it
calls
for
up
to
40
percent
of
the
folks
time
to
work
on
it
and
I.
H
That's
been
a
huge
bottleneck
for
us
all
along,
so
this
is
sort
of
a
call
out
to
actually
like
change
the
compensation
guidelines
to
to
help
with
that
I.
Don't
think
compensation
is
the
only
thing
that
attracts
developers,
I
like
culture
and
like
what
you're
doing
matters
a
lot
too.
But
this
is
just
acknowledging
that
so
I'll
stop
talking
now
just
trying
to
kind
of
go
through
everything
and
yeah.
We
can
discuss
it
here.
H
A
Thanks
for
sharing
this
John
I
I
feel
like
this
could
help
clear
the
air
a
little,
because
after
that,
kind
of,
like
bomb
was
dropped
on
the
Forum.
People
were
wondering
like
what
now
right
and-
and
there
was
like-
almost
nothing
and
and
now
this
follow-up
kind
of
helps,
put
people's
thoughts
in
order
realize
what
what
the
ask
really
is,
although
looking
at
it,
it's
quite
comprehensive
at
the
same
time
like
on
one
hand,
it
lays
out
kind
of
like
a
path
forward.
A
On
the
other
hand,
the
fact
that
it's
so
comprehensive
in
terms
of
restructuring
it
feels
like
we
need
a
follow-up
on
the
follow-up
like
it
seems
like
we'd
need
to
figure
out
how
this
transition
should
happen.
If,
if
it
it's
going
to
happen
right
so
yeah
I
wonder
what
what
people's
thoughts
are
like
operation
wise
like
it,
it
looks
like
it
can't
be
an
overnight
thing.
A
So
how
do
we
follow
up
on
this?
How
do
we
act
on
it?
Of
course,
there's
got
to
be
a
vote
and
then
say
it's
approved
it.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
needs
need
doing
so.
A
H
C
H
Certainly,
they
would
take
some
time
to
adjust
right
like
and
like
this
is
sort
of
flipping
things
to
be
more
planned
or
planning
oriented
right.
Like
squads,
you
actually
have
to
like
plan
the
next,
so
I
think
it
says
here
like
I.
Think
January
1st
would
be
you
know.
I
think
a
few
months
is,
would
be
required
to
kind
of
get
the
plan.
The
forward
plan
together
and
give
some
lead
time
on
the
discussions
right,
but
yeah
certainly
would
require
some
transition.
J
Can
you
provide
a
little
bit
more
details
on
the
new
setup
with
nimi
I
know,
there's
like
the
incubation
proposal
just
passed
earlier
this
week
that
you
know
established
like
a
pretty
clear
relationship
with
nimi
but
like
under
this
plan.
It
looks
like
geeked
out
because
committing
additional
resources,
something
like
a
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
more
so
I
guess.
The
question
is
like
what
would
DX
Dow
be
getting
in
return
for
those
resources,
like
maybe
a
higher
stake
in
nimi
or.
H
H
That
that
is
a
good
point
and
would
need
to
be
addressed.
I
would
maybe
leave
it
to
like
zet
or
Dave
if
they
have
ideas
on
that,
but
I
think
maybe
the
most
obvious
thing
would
be
to
proportionally
or
like
somewhat
increase
the
stake
in
line
with
the
increased
expenditure.
A
Also,
on
the
accountability
side
say
it:
it's
January,
1st
2023
and
we
have
those
squads
operate.
A
multi-sig
manage
themselves,
which
is
a
big
urge
and
push
for
them
to
be
lean,
build,
be
effective,
get
to
Market
start
making
money.
What,
if
like
each
of
those
quads,
fails
in
six
months
like
what?
What
would
be
the
strategy
in
in
a
in
a
scenario?
It
doesn't
work
out
like
yeah.
H
The
individual,
like
individual,
develop
a
team
or
like
product
team
just
based
on
the
traction,
that's
like
where
the
Development
Goal
kind
of
comes
in
right.
If
they're,
not
shipping,
anything
or
something
like
like
which
we've
had
in
the
past
right,
like
like
kind
of
have
a
a
standard
like
some
kind
of
basic
standards
on
like
what
is
expected
for
deliverables
and
and
to
hold
the
teams
accountable
to
to
doing
those
deliverables.
A
H
D
Yeah,
so
the
only
limit
is
the
proposed
budget
per
squat
right
and
then
the
sport
needs
to
do
needs
to
think
about,
like
what
is
the
best
Team
structure
to
to
basically
be
able
to
operate
with
the
budget
right.
J
And
then
John
I
used
to
mentioned
kind
of
how
your
time
has
been
taken
up
with
dealing
with
the
accountability,
stuff
and
so
I
was
just
kind
of
curious.
If
you
could
provide
some
examples
of
that
from
say,
January
to
May
of
this
year,
where
your
time
was
taken
up
by
some
accountability
thing.
J
I,
so
you
said
I
guess
in
this
proposal
kind
of
acknowledging
that
some
of
your
time
of
last
year
has
not
been
on
as
much.
You
know
technical
product
development
or
something
kind
of
along
those
lines.
H
J
H
There
would
be
in
may
we,
you
know
things
weren't
working
out
with
Hamza
and
we
had
a
call
with
him,
but
he
just
sort
of
didn't
put
his
next
proposal
and
I.
H
H
I,
don't
think
that's
what
this
is
about
happy
to
answer
that
and
you
know,
maybe
a
different
form
on
the
tab,
talk
or
whatnot.
You
know,
I
think
that
that
was
addressed
to
I
I
caught
up
on
those
worker
proposals
and
they've
passed
so
I
mean
we
could
talk
more
about
that
if
you
want
but
I,
don't
think
that's
what
this
proposal
is
about.
H
J
H
H
F
J
Yeah
I
guess
like
when
you
do
a
layoff.
Typically,
people
do,
like
you,
have
to
name
names
and
so
I
think
it's
going
to
kind
of
go
through
that
process.
We
need
to
figure
out
how
to
kind
of
do
that
here
and
that
just
doesn't
really
seem
like
there's
enough
again.
Maybe
this
is
in
the
the
spreadsheet.
H
H
Any
other
questions.
Obviously
this
is
difficult
to
talk
about
so
in,
like
you
know,
this
is
kind
of
fresh,
so
I
don't
think
we'll
go
to
The
Forum
right
away.
Maybe
you
know
sometime
next
week,
hopefully,
but.
E
E
I
I
mean
from
supper's
side
I,
think
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
contractors.
I
think
we
were
aligned
there.
A
lot
I
think
we
we
me
and
venki
both
have
gone
through
the
resources
we
have
calculating
budget
trying
to
make
make
sure
we
we
can
continue
on
on
the
roadmap
or
on
the
future
roadmap
with
the
people.
We
have
I
think
we're
kind
of
confident
on
how
to
move
forward.
It's
mostly
contractors
I
mean
that
was
our
biggest
cost.
So
that's
that's.
A
F
Just
some
some
thoughts
on
my
side,
I've
been
I've,
been
thinking
a
lot
about
this
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
ready
to
share
formal
thoughts.
I've
been
chatting
with
a
lot
of
the
people
proposing
this
affected
Etc.
Obviously,
it's
weighted
in
favor
of
the
ex-boys,
which
is,
of
course,
a
bias.
I
have
to
consider,
but
I
expect
to
to
have
a
response
in
in
at
least
the
extra
shortly,
maybe
to
there
tomorrow.
G
I
guess
I
mean
I,
guess
I
also
have
some
bias,
given
the
nimi
part
in
The
Proposal,
but
just
like
trying
to
comment
as
an
outside
Observer
I
would
say
that
like
if
you
do
look
at
the
gas
governing
refunds
or
maybe
I
can
pull
the
data.
I
think
like
I,
probably
do
like
60
of
all
governance
transactions,
which
includes
like
submitting
proposals
boosting
if
you
exclude
voting
I,
think
I,
probably
much
higher.
Then
Chris
is
a
second
in
like
like
we're,
probably
very
close,
I,
probably
overtook
in
the
past
month.
G
I
did
see.
This
proposal
does
mention
that
more
people
would
be
involved
in
governance
right,
but
I
think
you
know
like
if
that
is
achievable,
and
you
know
I
think
people
are
always
late
on
their
worker.
Proposals
like
everyone
at
DXL
has
been
late
at
some
point
on
their
worker
proposal
and
I.
Think
governance
is
like
really
really
crucial
like
right.
You
just
can't
be
late
on
something
right
like
or
you
can
get
really.
You
know
so
I
think.
G
G
You
know,
particularly
with
like
stuff
we
found
out
over
the
the
recent
months
and
also
like
you
know,
like
we
we're
now
able
to
do
like
orders
on
Cal
Swap
and
that's
like
some
really
cool
stuff
and
like
just
curious,
if
that
would
have
ever
been
found
out
or
even
like
doing
the
trade
zone
curve
on
mainnet
and
stuff,
like
that,
you
know,
like
I,
think
that's
like
very
useful
stuff
for
the
Dow
and
just
some
thoughts
from
me.
Like
I,
don't
know
how
that
would
look
in
the
new
version.
Yeah.
I
H
I'm,
not
blaming
anything
on
Melanie
and
I,
don't
agree
with
the
zero
out
of
ten
rating,
but
I
think
the
important
thing
is
that
this
is
not
trusting
me
or
Geronimo
with
anything
more
than
it's
trusting
you
Adam
right,
like
you,
are
on
a
squad.
You
have
a
leadership
role
in
that.
I
D
So
basically,
every
rep
holder
should
watch
the
new
Squad
like
every
other
Squad,
and
we
also
like
I'm.
Also
personally,
fine
like
I'm
I've,
been
working
part-time
for
free
since
a
lot
of
months
and
I.
Think
that
is
also
something
people
most
of
the
times.
Basically
I
mean
you
most
of
the
people,
basically
describing
it
as
being
out,
but
I've
been
working
with
the
DX
gov
team.
I
ship
designs
not
like
as
consistently
as
before,
but
I've
been
working
for
free
right.
D
That's
like
I
was
always
committed
and
I've
been
committed
in
this
call
and
like
if
this
proposal
passes
I
I'm
gonna
stay
committed,
I
am
personally,
and
this
is
like
up
to
the
sport
I'm
fine
with.
If
we
don't
deliver
in
the
six
month
time
frame,
the
things
we
are
gonna
lay
out
I'm
fine
with
a
20
salary
cut
that
is
like
that
is
like
one
penalty
I'm
fine
with.
If
we
as
a
the
new
spots
will
not
deliver
what
we're
gonna
promise
and.
H
H
When
it
actually
asks
for
budget
right
like
it's,
gonna
have
to
meet
all
these
criteria,
but
the
goals
are
to
facilitate
the
creation
of.
E
You
say
you
work
for
free.
Obviously,
free
work
is
good,
but
this
is
not
what's
been
expected
expecting,
but
by
leaders
right,
that's
one
of
one
thing.
Another
thing
this
was
not
approved
by
the
Dao,
like
thou.
Didn't
ask
for
this.
You
didn't
ask
for
this:
I
haven't
seen
proposed
to
say:
hey
I'm,
going
to
work
for
free
I,
have
commitments,
and
here
here's
what
I'm
gonna
do
I
think
it's
weird
to
say
just
because
you
don't
ask
for
money,
you're
committed
or
or
like
you're
doing
a
favor
for
the
Dow.
So.
D
In
the
last
product
resource
call,
you
personally
asked
me
if
I
could
work
on
carrots.
There
was
no
issue
with
like
no
on-chain
proposal.
There,
no.
E
D
Yeah
like
I
to
to
make
this
clear
I
will
make
a
proposal
to
work
on
Karen
even.
E
I
mean
just
let
me
get
this
straight
I'm,
not
saying
like
I'm
thankful
for
the
time
you
committed
and
all
of
that,
but
just
from
the
downside
like
it's,
that
shouldn't
be
the
case
like
just.
If
you
don't
ask
for
pay,
then
then
you're,
basically
like
Untouchable
or
you
can
say-
oh
I,
didn't
do
this
and
that
that
therefore
it's
okay
I
think
it
should
should
never
be
okay.
If
people
have
some
leadership
role
or
commitment
to
to
just
Freebase
it
and
say,
hey
I
didn't
take
pay
and
that
therefore
it's
okay.
D
So
while
I
worked
at
dxgov,
I
didn't
had
any
leadership
role,
so
your
claim
about
like
leadership
and
then
like
no
problem
like
I
I've,
been
working
part-time.
Everyone
was
fine
with
it
until
like
now.
D
Of
course,
I
will
make
a
proposal
if
I'm
gonna
like
be
joining
for
like
full-time
the
squads
and
like,
as
you
guys
know,
carrot
will
not
like
ship
if
I'm
not
gonna
join.
If
you
find
someone
else,
I'm
fine
with
like
being
focused
primarily
on
the
r
d
spots,
but
of
course,
as
as
we
know
and
like
people
got
burned
with
like
no
proposals,
of
course,
I
I
will
obey
by
The
Proposal
process.
That's.
E
All
I'm
asking
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
I,
don't
want
to
go
back
and
like
talk
about
the
past
too
much,
but
if,
if
you're
going
to
have
a
leadership
role
on
this
stuff-
and
you
want
to
pass
the
proposal
like
this,
you
need
to
take
accountability
on
what
happened
in
the
past.
I.
Don't
think
yeah,
that's
all
so.
D
So
you,
so,
you
think,
did
the
whole
time
like
I
mean
it's
the
same
thing
with
like
every
one.
Without
a
proposal
getting
earned
right
like
I
mean
for
me,
I
have
the
privilege
to
like
not
request
the
payments.
D
E
So
I
think
like
from
from
my
perspective,
it's
it's
just
like
I
want
to
see
like
the.
If,
if
leaders
want
to
lead,
I
want
to
see
the
past,
and
if
there's
like
you
can
check
the
past
and
say
hey
these
guys
have
have
something
and
and
I
can
trust
the
future.
That's
what
I'm
looking
at
mostly
so
like
you
either
get
like
take
accountability
on
on
the
past
or
yeah,
or
you
don't
want
to
lead
the
future.
It's
kind
of
it's.
It
doesn't
make
sense
for
me.
E
E
And
this
is
not
just
about
you.
It's
about
Federico
too
I
love
you
as
a
person
and
all
of
that,
but
like
as
a
leader,
I
I
like
I,
don't
like
you're
you're,
a
lone
wolf
and
I,
haven't
seen
leadership
much
from
your
side
John
you,
you
showed
a
lot
of
leadership.
I
respect
a
lot
of
stuff.
You
have
done
past
year,
you
you
like
fallen
down
a
little
bit
and
and
but
the
I
I
see
leadership
in
John.
Definitely.
H
F
H
E
So
if,
if
I
can
maybe
ask
a
question
if
we
remove
a
huge
on
from
this
equation
and
it's
only
gero
and
Federico,
do
people
feel
as
confident
in
in
the
same
leadership,
and
maybe
it's
unfair
to
ask
it
just
like
this.
But
just
just
trying
to
to
see
where
this
Dynamic
coming
from
is
is
all
of
the
people
in
that
Squad,
a
leadership
position
or
it's
just
one
person.
H
H
Has
its
own
goals
right
so,
like
I
guess,
we'd
have
to
work
out
like
exactly
what
our
individual
roles
are
in
that
Squad,
but
again
I.
Don't
think
it's
like
you
know.
The
leadership
has
to
come
from
from
whether,
like
the
governance
actually
approves
individual
Squad
initiatives
right,
like
ideas,
can
come
from
different
places,
right,
yeah,
yeah,
I,
think
I.
Think
Mimi
is
a
great
example
of
this
right.
H
I
think
like
Dave,
coming
up
with
the
Copenhagen
Flames
idea
is
a
great
example
like
like
there's
there
by
Design
like
txt,
is
not
a
hierarchical
organization
right
like
I
I,
don't
want
to
have
that
kind
of
like
yeah,
that's
like
not
what
we
are
doing
here
right
and
I'm,
not
asking
for
that
authority.
Of
course
it's
been
very
difficult
to
try
to
act
as
a
leader
without
Authority
and
I.
Think
that's
sort
of
the
point
of
like
this.
The
changing
the
way
we
do
things
with
the
products
here.
E
E
H
Well,
I.
Think
too,
like
that's
why
governance
2.0
is
so
critical,
because
I
think
that,
like
txt
holder
side
of
the
equation,
that
has
a
business
perspective
for
it
right
and
they're
and
they're
not
like
clouded
by,
like
you
know,
working
together
with
everybody
else
on
the
contributor
side
right
so
I
think
that's
really
key
to
to
driving
things
but
like.
Hopefully
these
like
changing
up
at
least
the
Cycles
will
at
least
allow
us
to
be
more
Nimble
in
trying
to
find
how
to
make
money
right.
H
D
Yeah,
so
the
strategy
is
like
a
very
very
like
the,
in
my
view,
with
like
the
new
structured
changes.
The
strategy
is
the
most
important
part
right.
Like
Yuri
asked
me
like
what
is
Geeks.
Don't
know
it
was
like
a
dab
Builder.
Then
it's
like
governance.
D
What
is
this
down
now
and
like
from
my
point,
like
everyone,
has
a
different
view
on
this
right
and
consolidate
into
one
strategy
is
difficult.
You
guys
know
me
like
I'm
I'm,
chilling
at
chains,
sovereignty
and
way
more
hacking,
and
not
everyone
shares
the
same
use
as
me.
Right,
like
I
I.
Think
I
would
shoot
me
in
the
foot
if
we
like
include
strategy
here
in
this,
like
very
important
draft
proposal,
mainly
because
it's
just
like
a
very
subjective
view
of
like
the
current
market
landscape
and
the
way
I
see.
D
Everyone
is
extremely
focused,
like
extremely
busy,
without
actually
having
like
a
absolute
clear
overview
of
like
the
current
market
side.
Who
has
that
even
I
don't
think
anyone
on
crypto
has
a
clear
overview
of
like
what
will
be
looking
very,
very
strongly
forward,
but
I'm
also
like
it
will
be
tough,
because
we
have
all
like
different
mindsets.
Different
like
bullish
points
right
where,
where
everyone's
like
bullish
on
different
parts
of
like
the
the
person
and
I,
think
that's.
Why
like?
D
Where
there's
the
squat
structure
is
very
important
like
if
I'm
bullish
at
like
app
chains,
I
should
like
try
to
get
people
on
board
on
my
spot,
like
formal
former
budgets
form
like
a
delivery
goal
and
then
I
go
and
like
spin
up
a
blockchain
and
like
try
to
kill
it.
If
it
doesn't
work,
I,
hopefully,
can
come
back
to
Dexter
and
like
say
like
guys,
who
needs
help
or,
like
maybe
a
new
idea,
maybe
a
new
iteration.
D
But
it's
very
important
that
we
like
have
this
like
cycle
of
like
killing
and
like
progressing
and
finding
product
Market
field
and
strategies
like
after.
If
we
get
this
through
or
like
a
new
iteration
of
that
proposal,
then
it's
like
the
strategical
part,
and
this
is
like
so
important.
It's
like
it
will
Define,
potentially
like
the
next
three
years
of
tech,
Style
and
right
now,
I'm
chatting
with
you,
if
you,
if
you,
if
we
ask
any
Dexter.
D
What
is
this,
though
it's
very
difficult?
No
one
has
the
answer
like
we
are
not
we're
not
like
aligned
with
like
what
is
the
extent
and
I
I'm,
not
even
sure
if
we
should
be
aligned
at
what
is
this
drama.
D
Now
my
big
point
was
that
strategy
is
absolutely
hard
like
to
to
get
to
consensus
on.
Everyone
has
a
like,
potentially
a
vision,
but
after
this
we
need
to
sit
down.
Devs
need
to
look
at
Tesh.
You
need
to
evaluate
Technologies
need
to
write
up
views
of
what
is
currently
out
there
need
to
think
about.
How
can
we
make
new
protocols
which
are
interconnected
to
make
Revenue
to
be
to
make
a
new
experiment
happen?
D
Nimi
is
a
like
a
beautiful
example
of
this
right,
like
we
should
embrace
this,
and
this
is
like
how
we
should
do
things
like
a
hacker
development
culture
where
we
try
out
new
stuff
consistently
and
if
you
find
product
Market
fit
Double
Down,
On,
It,.
E
So
so
I
I
have
a
comment.
Actually
I've
been
through
a
couple
of
startups.
All
startups
have
trouble.
I.
Think
one
thing
that
happened
in
one
of
them
is
is
we
change
the
CEO
to
someone
else
that
has
had
experienced
in,
like
proven
experience
to
to
be
able
to
drive
a
company
from
like
building
to
actually
making
money?
E
That's
maybe
one
thing
I
would
like
I
would
like
support.
If
we
actually
got
a
proven
person
that
actually
can
make
money
and
not
just
like
maybe
guessing
and
trying
to
find
stuff
and
just
someone
that
can
sell
an
idea,
it
doesn't
even
need
to
be
product
like
and
there's
a
bunch
of
them
in
crypto
that,
like
just
they
don't
even
have
a
product
and
their
market
cap
is
yeah
insane
right,
so
they
drive
value
instead
of
or
like
focus
on
Revenue.
So
maybe
I
don't
know.
Maybe
someone
outside
of
big
style.
E
Maybe
someone
from
a
VC
that
has
done
this
multiple
times.
Provenly
done
this.
Maybe
we
should
sell
some
of
our
DxD
to
a
VC,
so
they
could
teach
us
like
Hey,
guys,
you're,
making
the
same
mistake.
Everyone
else
is
doing
right,
we're
probably
not
alone
with
these
problems
so
so
like.
How
can
we
fast
forward
from
these
mistakes
and
just
start
actually
making
Revenue
making
value
so
yeah?
Maybe
that's
the
person
we
don't
have.
D
Yeah
and
what?
What
are
the
incentives
for
that
kind
of
like
experienced
person
to
like
join
the
extra.
E
I
mean
obviously,
we
would
love
to
have
someone
that
believes
and
wants
to
drive
forward
and
wants
to
make
Taos
a
good
thing,
but
maybe
maybe
that's
not
enough
or
maybe
money
is
where
it
talks
right.
If
someone
provenly
have
done
this
in
the
past,
what
what
it
was
it?
What
is
it
worth
for
the
Dow
to
pay
someone
to
turn
and
turn
these
down
to
like
a
money
machine
so
yeah?
Maybe
that's
a
question
to
ask
like
Dixie
holders.
What
are
we
willing
to
give
a
person
like
this.
E
I,
don't
I
don't
most
like
most
successful
crypto
people
go
all
go
and
open
up
their
own
VC
firm
and
make
money
through
that,
so
my
idea
would
be
to
take
in
PCS.
I
know:
I
hate.
The
idea
I've
said
this
maybe
a
year
ago,
also
just
to
get
that
perspective
from
from
like
money
right,
pure
money,
pure
looking
at
numbers,
pure
looking
from
like
budgets,
money
and
revenue,
and
how
can
we
turn
this
around.
H
E
H
B
I
have
a
question
for
this
new
product
development.
We
have
mentioned
that
develop
a
front-end
prototype
for
carrot.
V1.
Will
this
not
be
ready
until
2023
January.
C
H
H
A
Yeah
I'm,
yeah,
I
I
think
we
went
over
and
we
should
call
it
but
yeah
yeah,
let's,
let's
take
it
to
The
Forum
or
in
key
base,
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
how
it's
gonna
pan
out
from
here
on,
but
we'll
figure
it
out.
If
we
keep
on
discussing
we'll
get
somewhere,
we
need
to
keep
communicating.
You
know.