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A
Welcome
to
the
d
style
governance
discussion
for
january
6
2021,
the
first
one
of
the
new
year,
wanted
to
start
with
just
a
a
quick
proposal:
roundup
as
there's
a
couple
things
in
the
queue.
Oh,
I
just
deleted
that
so
there's
not
too
many
new
proposals.
I
mean
certainly
not
too
many
controversial
proposals
going
on
there's
a
couple
worker
proposals.
Obviously,
there's
been
a
little
bit
lower
voter
turnout
on
some
of
these
proposals,
as
the
price
of
gas
is
skyrocketed.
A
So
it's
something
to
kind
of
follow
a
little
bit
and
there
have
been
some
proposals
that
have
kind
of
inched
towards
the
the
deadline.
So
I'm
trying
to
watch
as
best
as
I
as
I
can
and
all
the
proposals
that
I
would
want
to
vote
on
and
make
sure
that
they
pass,
but
that's
something
we
should
all
kind
of
be
on
it.
So
there
are,
I
guess,
there's
a
proposal
to
reimburse
the
launching
of
two
contracts,
two
dig
style
contracts
and
then
there's
a
couple
different
worker
proposals.
A
I
know
for
nico
and
john,
and
then
there
was
one
other
one.
I
thought
was
somewhat
interesting,
which
one
was
that.
A
Any
comments
on
proposals
in
the
queue
or
any
thing
to
to
say
about
those.
C
A
I
like
how
you
describe
the
current
situation
as
ethereum
going
up.
I
don't
know
if
other
people
have
thoughts,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
a
couple
people
have
done
the
last
week
or
two.
I
think
it
makes
sense.
Given
the
volatility
there's
a
discussion
on
how
exactly
to
calculate
this,
I'm
a
little
like.
A
I
don't
think
this
is
in
any
way
close
to
a
large
like
a
long-term
solution,
and
so
I
think,
like
the
stablecoin
path,
is
definitely
the
best
way
to
go,
and
I
think
we're
working
there
towards
that.
But
I
think
this
is
like
a
fine
short
term,
so
we
should
give
in
the
like
volatility
here.
D
A
And
I
think
the
other
thing
just
with
all
of
these
things
in
your
proposals,
I
think
it's
just
important
to
be
upfront
about
what
exactly
you're
doing
just
so.
People
are
kind
of
clear
with
with
the
calculations,
so
I
mean
I
think
most
people
are
pretty
reasonable
here.
It's
just
let
everyone
know
exactly
what
you're
doing
and
happy
to
have
feedback
there.
E
Yeah
yeah,
the
only
one
that's
like
an
outlier
is
federico's,
but
that's
because
he
he
proposed
that
idea.
His
idea
like
before
he
ever
did
his
monthly
proposals,
so
he
was
using
a
monthly
average
which
he
laid
out
from
the
start
and
he's
done
that
for
the
last
couple
months.
So
I
think
that's
fair,
because
that's
what
he
chose
from
the
start
and
it's
pretty
conservative.
B
C
E
What
about,
I
think,
a
lot
of
people's
like
periods
ended
at
the
end
of
december
right
and
there's
still
quite
a
few
people
that
need
to
put
in
like
their
new
proposal
for
the
next
two
months
right
and
it
seems
like
I
mean
everyone
still
worked,
everyone's
still
working,
but
those
are
gonna
be
now
okay,
seven
days
or
eight
days
like
early
mid
through
jan.
Is
there
a
strategy
around
that
or
like
clearly
everyone's
kind
of
waiting
for
the
for
gas
to
come
down
slash?
E
You
know
you
got
to
put
work
into
like
what
your
plan
is
for
the
next
two
months,
which
is
similar
to
like
the
last
two
months,
but
with
adjustments
and
feedback
and
stuff
like
that
which
takes
time.
Obviously
right.
A
Yeah,
I
can
speak
for
myself
here.
Yeah
I
mean
I'm.
I
guess
I'm
not
too
concerned
about
getting
like
paid
immediately.
I
do
like
trust,
geeks
down
and
trust
like
the
they
can
kind
of
recognize
that,
and
then
most
of
my,
like
some
of
my
hesitation
is
like
well
there's
just
a
lot
of
proposals
right
now,
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
wait
to
wait
for
some
of
that.
A
I
think
we
should
get
more
consistent
with
this,
but
I
think
that
the
like
onus
is
on
dx
dow
as
a
collective
to
come
up
with
like
a
better
way
of
distributing
or
administering
salary
like
every
month,
because
this
is
it's
just
like
a
little
bit
of
a,
I
guess-
confusion
on
how
and
when
to
submit,
but
I
think
like,
given
that
everything
is
like
we
can
have
everything
on
chain
we've
like
documented
everything.
I
think
that
there
shouldn't
be
that
much
risk
to
an
individual.
A
F
A
Cool,
so
let's
switch
into
the
gas
discussion,
which
I
think
is
maybe
more
of
a
discussion
on
the
rising
price
of
youth,
but
that's
causing
a
lot
more
just
expenses
to
run
the
dow,
and
I
think
when
we
look
at
gas,
you
know.
I
think
these
are
administrative
costs
of
like
running
an
organization
on
ethereum.
In
the
same
way,
you
have
to
pay
almost
as
a
company
as
to
pay
taxes
or
payroll
for
all
these
things,
but
costs
are
getting
higher
and
we
are
pushing
some
of
this
cost
on
to
individuals.
A
So
the
governance,
gas
refunds
number
two
is
up.
This
is
for
december,
so
the
contract
has
been
funded.
I
actually
think
that
was
lower
than
the
highest
month,
which
was
like
the
october
and
more
in
line
with
november,
which
is
about.
I
think
it
was
eight
or
nine
e
for
the
for
the
month
is
in
terms
of
a
cost
to
the
dow,
but
just
the
last
couple
weeks,
obviously
gas
is
has
skyrocketed.
A
So
there's
been
a
discussion
on
reek
looking
at
the
gas
refund
subsidies,
so
just
for
some
to
set
the
table.
I
think
so
voting
proposals,
voting
and
proposals
are
reimbursed
at
75
percent
and
then
staking
and
execution
and
yeah
the
execution
bot
are
all
reimbursed
at
a
hundred
percent.
A
So,
given
the
the
kind
of
rising
costs,
I
think
the
concern,
of
course,
in
the
short
term
is,
should
we
increase
the
subsidy
to
make
sure
that
we
are
encouraging
people
to
vote
or,
and
then
I
guess
kind
of
long
term
like
this
is
obviously
like
a
short-term
solution
and
we
need
to
think
of
more
long-term
solutions
that
are
gas.
Efficient
sky
has
a
is
a
that's
a
great
comment.
I
don't
know.
A
People
have
gone
to
fees.wtf,
which
is
a
very
depressing
site,
but
looking
at
geek
styles
paid
55
eve
in
fees,
I'm
assuming
that's
over,
like
the
life,
the
the
lifetime
of
d
style
so
probably
includes
a
lot
more
lower
ether,
but
yeah
that's
a
concern.
So
how
are
people
thinking
about
like
gas
refunds?
I
know
this
is
just
a
a
constant
nag
and
we
need
to
think
about
the
long-term
solutions,
but
in
the
short
term,
should
we
be
moving
to
to
increase
to
subsidy.
E
So
so,
if
if
as
long
as
proposals
pass
and
someone
bites
the
bullet
and
if
you
don't
need
15,
we
like
voter
turnout,
but
we
don't
need
15
people
to
vote
on
each
proposal
unless
it's
an
important
proposal
like
the
bonding
curve
wanted
right,
and
in
that
case
75
people
still
voted
like
you.
Don't
want
to
be
100,
so
90
like
something
below
100,
so
that
so
it's
not
attacked,
but
you
also
don't.
E
E
Percent-
I
don't
I
didn't,
I
didn't
know
staking-
was
being
reimbursed
in
the
beginning.
G
Yeah
so
staking
doesn't
make
sense,
because
there
is
a
bounty
already.
E
A
We
just
started
chatting
a
little
bit
about
get
gas
refunds
and
so
yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
you're
kind
of
aware
of
the
situation
and
figuring
out
how
to
solve
this
in
the
short
term,
but
making
sure
we're
we're
figuring
out
a
long-term
solution
here.
H
That's
something
that
we
can
do
on
the
long
in
the
long
run,
but
what
I
what
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
was
impressed
when
I
did.
The
claim
of
refunds
of
what
we
spent
on
voting
and
staking
is
that
right
now
the
percentage
that
we
are
refund
is
75
percent
and
last
time
I
spent
like
a
hundred
dollars
on
creating
it
or
or
staking
voting
and
creating
proposals,
which
means
that,
for
example,
I
spend
75
dollars.
I
A
H
H
H
Maybe
not
really
that
we
have
a
hundred
percent
refunds
on
creation
of
proposals
and
I
think
something
else,
but
it
will
be
better
if
we
can
increase
it
and
maybe
even
like
live
at
the
leave
a
limit.
For
example,
we
are
not
going
to
spend
more
than
10
ether
on
refunds
per
month
or
something
like
that.
You
know
like
set
a
refund
or
a
different
way
to
calculation,
to
refund
as
much
as
possible
to
our
to
the
voters,
because
we
are,
there
was
voting.
I
did
four
votes.
A
Yeah
I
mean
you
could
take
that
ethan
go
by
die
and-
and
you
know
yeah
I
mean
I,
I
think
I
think
there's
like
two
things
we
need
to
be
doing,
and
one
is,
I
think
what
skye
is
saying
is.
We
are
like
monitoring
this
because
it
isn't
like
a.
A
We
can't
encourage
everyone
to
vote
on
everything
just
because,
like
the
gas
cost-
and
I
think
that's
something
we
want
to
get
to
long
term,
but
I
think
it's
a
concern
and
that
I
think
yeah
I
get
to
the
second
is:
is
I
like
something
around
like
a
90
refund
for
this?
A
Just
because
I
think
that
is
probably
about
the
same
cost
structure
that
we
put
on
to
the
individual
when
it
was
75
percent,
but
I
I
guess
I
just
don't
want
us
to
get
complacent
into
just
like
subsidizing,
more
and
more
like
gas,
because,
like
that,
is
that's
a
serious
cost
to
dx
dow,
and
so
I
just
think
we
should
be
looking
at
this
as
like
a
short
term.
Almost
emergency
fix
for
like
what
do.
We
do
right
now
and
I
think,
there's
a
host
of
different
ways.
A
We
can
figure
out
how
to
limit
our
overall
gas
usage,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
somehow
we're
feeling
the
pain
of
these
gas
expenses,
because
they're
real
and
like
that's
money
coming
out
of
geek
status,
treasury.
G
Yeah
exactly
like,
as
far
as
I
remember,
you
made
a
you
try
to
like
summarize
the
the
proposal
into
buckets
and
it
seems
like
backup.
Proposals
are
the
most
most
used
proposal
types
and
I
think
we
we
should
be
able
to
find
solutions
for
that.
G
So
yeah
like
we
need
to
find
solutions,
for
that,
like
one
way,
is
to
move
quick
with
with
like
squat
squat
payment
sprites
instead
of
individual
payments,
which
is
not
better
than
the
current
system
in
terms
of
skin
in
the
game
process,
because
I
think
if
the
d
star
was
paying
out
a
bigger
chunk
to
the
squad,
then
the
dig
storm
may
have
like
the
better
position,
but
in
terms
of
like
being
more
efficient,
I
think
that's
still
the
better
way,
especially
with
goods
coming.
H
Yeah,
even
the
gills
they
can
be
payable.
For
example,
let's
say
dxo
can
create
a
dxo
worker
guild
and
you
can
even
send
some
ether
there
and
it's
going
to
be
paying
the
gas
cost
of
the
kill,
but
they're
going
to
be
way
lower
that
the
current
gas
cost
that
we
are
spending
for
voting
is
taking
the
the
biggest
issue
that
we
have
right
now
is
the
amount
of
proposals
we
need
to.
We.
We
should
focus
on
decreasing
the
amount
of
proposals
and
focus
on
one
worker
proposal
per
worker
per
period
at
maximum.
H
That
would
be
ideal,
something
like
to
keep
the
the
engagement
active,
because
right
now
we
have
to
submit
at
least
two-
and
we
have.
H
E
Yeah
agusta,
what
you're
describing
is
exactly
what
john
and
I
have
been
discussing
with
block
rocket.
So
it's
probably
going
to
take
like
january
slash
february,
because
it's
going
to
need
an
audit
and
it's
more.
It's
like
this
one,
one
proposal
from
the
dow
to
fund
the
worker
proposal
bank
and
then
people
just
do
authorization
once
per
period
with
all
the
details
of
their
their
worker
and
then
it
like
the
the
payment
contract
pays
out.
So
what
you're
describing
is
is
what
it
hopefully
will
exist
like
in
two
months
from
now.
E
A
A
John,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that,
because
I
guess
we're
are
we
dealing
with
like
a
short-term
emergency
like
situation
where
we
like
need
to
make
sure
we're
increasing
the
gas
subsidy
like
right
now
and
then
maybe
is
there
a
solution
that
we
get
like
a
little
bit
cheaper
solution?
We
get
for
the
next
like
two
months
and
then
we
have
a
long-term
solution
or
is
it
like?
B
Yeah,
I
think
what
augusta
just
said
here
I
agree
with,
which
is
the
the
increasing
the
gas
refund
should,
I
think,
cover
us
until
we
get
the
payroll
system
for
the
worker
proposals,
but,
I
think
kind
of
more.
Broadly
speaking,
we
need
more
scalability
for
other
types
of
decisions
right
like
we're,
adding
we're
about
to
add
this
multi-color
scheme
and
there's
like
a
bunch
of
things
that
the
dxtel
controls
there.
B
So
you
know
a
more
general
system
that
scales-
and
I
think
this
probably
you
know
stuff
that,
like
augusto,
is
working
on
with
like
signed
votes
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
maybe
even
moving
to
side
chains
or
layer.
Two
for
certain
things.
H
Yeah,
that's
another!
That's
another
thing
that
there
is
a
lot
of
thing
that
it
can
be
done
on
the
boarding
machine
level
where
we
can
optimize
a
lot
of
the
boarding
and
signing
of
codes.
H
That
is
going
to
be
the
next
goal
of
the
dx
vote,
that
to
optimize
and
compare.
How
much
are
we
spending
on
on
on
boats
using
this
new
smart
near
the
new
body
machine
that
that
I'm
designing
compared
to
the
one
that
we
are
using
right
now.
B
Because
I
think,
under
current
conditions,
it's
basically
like
the
optimal
thing
is
to
have
not
everybody
voting,
but
just
enough
votes
to
pass.
I
mean
really
just
one
vote.
Basically,
as
long
as
we
have
enough
attention
on
the
proposal
so
that
people
are
paying
attention
to
what's
going
on
and
would
vote
when
it's
necessary.
But
you
know
with
these
kinds
of
costs,
you
don't
really
want
a
hundred
people
voting
on
something
so
long
term.
B
I
think
we
need
to
move
to
something
like
the
signed
votes
where
it's
you
know,
individual
vote
costs
are
close
to
free.
H
H
How
can
we
say
mine
to
mine
it
into
mainnet,
but
they
will
appear
there
like,
for
example,
you
can
have
one
vote
on
mainnet,
but
five
voters
already
sign
an
approval
of
the
of
the
of
a
proposal
on
another
network,
but
this
can
be
transferred
to
maine,
but
this
is
not
necessary.
This
will
be
just
to
signal
like
have
show
a
level
of
agreement.
That
is
that
the
proposal
has
on
the
community
and
in
case
someone
or
anyone
wants
it.
H
These
votes
can
be
signal
and
transfer
too
many
that
that
would
be
ideal,
that
that
would
be
the
idea
to
show
the
to
use
the
same
account
that
you
that
we
are
going
to
use
in
a
minute
but
to
share
the
votes
on
another
on
our
network
with
the
same
cryptographic,
signature,
and
that
in
theory,
will
optimize
and
show
cryptographically
in
in
a
way
where
we
can
verify
cryptographically
the
agreement
or
disagreement
of
the
community
on
a
proposal
without
having
to
automate
it.
A
Anything
cool,
and
so
just
kind
of
I
mean
put
a
so
I
feel
like
we
have
the
short
very
short
term.
It's
like
we
want
to
increase
to
90
refunds,
and
then
we
have
like
a
medium
term.
I
guess
with
the
block
rocket
like
payment
system
and
then
like
the
long
term,
solution
that
we're
really
talking
about
to
fix
this
is
is
what
augusta's,
building
with
the
new
voting
machine.
A
Cool,
so
why
don't
we,
I
guess,
jump
I
think
that
covers
most
of
things
on
the
dxd
worker
payment
component.
So
why
don't
we
jump
right
back
to
talk
about
the
multi-call
scheme
parameters,
so
this
was
a
post,
I
think
originally
by
nico,
and
so
this
is
a
new
scheme
that
will
be
installed
that
will
allow
deekstyle
to
interact
with
a
set
of
smart
contracts
to
really
expand
the
capabilities.
But
in
order
to
install
the
new
scheme,
there
are
certain
parameters
that
we
need
to
agree
on.
A
So
I
think
there
was
some
discussion
on
this
last
week.
I
think
specifically
to
the
rep
reward
and
a
couple
others,
and
then
I
saw
gusto,
had
some
additional
thoughts
on
this.
I
guess
for
building
his
voting
machine
gap,
which
I
guess
is
different
or
different
than
this,
but
just
seeing
out
what
we
need
to
decide
for
this
multi-call
scheme
to
get
installed
or
for
the
the
proposal
to
pass
and
then
augusto-
I
don't
know
if
this
and
then
the
time
to
maybe
talk
about
the
quiet,
quiet,
ending
period.
H
Yes,
yes,
I
found,
I
found
this
parameter
and
I
understood
how
it
was
working
when
it
was
working
with
the
exporting,
dub
and
yeah.
It
looked
kind
of
funny
to
me
because,
even
if,
if
you
use
a,
for
example,
a
big
a
long
time
for
a
quite
ending
boarding
period,
the
proposal
can
takes
way
more
time
to
be
to
be
congruent
to
reach
a
conclusion
right.
H
In
my
opinion,
the
way
I
think
it
should
work
is
that
it
should
happen
and
in
time
where
you
can
plan
ahead,
I
I,
I
think,
the
one
of
the
good
things
about
blockchain
is
this
immutability,
where
you
know
that
certain
thing
will
happen
at
a
certain
time
depending
on
these
conditions,
and
this
certain
thing
is
a
proposal
execution
or
or
rejection,
depending
on
the
amount
of
votes
that
is
going
to
have,
and
when
I
saw
that
this
could
change
with
both
in
the
last
minute.
H
It
didn't
look
right
to
me
and
I
never
saw
that
anywhere
on
any
democracy
system.
You
know
we
we
never
saw
anything
like
you
go
and
you
vote
and
you
have
a
time
to
vote
and
that's
it
if
you,
if
you
don't
go
on
board,
you
you
meet
the
chance.
H
So
yeah
that
was
surprising
to
me
is
an
insurance
parameter
is
something
that
it
can
be
interested
interesting
to
use
on
another,
for
example,
a
weak
governance
scheme,
for
example,
something
where
we
are
going
to
make
where
we
are
going
to
be
making
quick
decisions,
and
you
can
allow
more
time
for
the
voters
to
vote
but,
for
example,
something
on
on
on
a
very
important
scheme,
I'll
I
wouldn't
use
it.
I
will
just
use.
A
Just
before
people
jump
in,
I
just
want
to
get
clarity,
so
this
is
the
same
like
we're
deciding
the
parameters
for
the
multi-call
scheme,
or
is
there
like
an
additional
thing,
a
gusto
that
that
you're
talking
about
that's
separate
from
this?
So
this
is
about
the
the
multi-col
primers
for
the
multi-color
scheme.
H
That
is
why
I
think
that,
having
allowing
the
time
of
a
proposal
that
finished
to
change
can
have
an
impact,
maybe
even
later,
for
example,
if
you
are
if
we
are
going
to
for
example,
what
kind
of
what
kind
of
impact
can
happen
a
relayer
on
on
a
on
a
contract
that
is,
there
is
trust
in
the
time
where
a
proposal
is
going
to
be
executed.
H
Is
it
going
to
be
changing
the
time
that
the
propose
is
going
to
passes
because
of
last
minute
votes
so
yeah?
This
can
have
an
impact
on.
How
do
we
plan
to
execute
the
proposals
and,
for
example,
okay?
We
know
that
this
is
going
to
pass
at
a
certain
time,
but
it
turns
out
in
turns
out
that
we
cannot
promise
that,
because
someone
can
vote
at
the
at
last
minute
and
extend
that
proposal
time.
G
Yeah,
I
considered
the
overtime
as
a
protection
mechanism.
The
fact
that
like
if
we
wouldn't
have
that
there
could
be
as
always,
a
cartel
in
the
background
who's
like
thinking
up
about
when
to
vote,
and
if
we
don't
have
the
overtime.
G
E
So
this
is
actually
common
in
the
nft
space,
which
you
guys
are
all
now
familiar
with.
So
whenever
there's
an
auction
that
ends
like
at
noon
on
friday,
like
on
open
c
or
on
super
rare,
for
example,
there's
a
time
when
the
auction
ends,
but
if
someone
comes
in
like
one
minute
before
the
auction
ends
and
they
put
the
highest
bid,
it
extends
per
minute.
So
there's
new
time,
endings,
it's
not
two
days,
but
it's
five
minutes
you
have.
E
H
D
Was
just
gonna
say
that
it's
kind
of
nice,
with
the
with
what
we
have
with
the
smart
contracts
that
we
can
have
a
basically
have
this
be
triggered
where
we
do
have
an
issue
where
there's
some
sort
of
voting
cartel
coming
at
the
end?
That's
why
you
don't
see
it
a
lot
in
traditional
elections,
because
you
don't
have
something
run
in
this
manner
and
it
seems
to
have
worked
out
pretty
well
for
the
two
couple
times
that
it
has
initiated
for.
D
E
So
it
does
cause
a
problem
with
futarki
which
like,
if
no
wants
to
do
that,
and
then,
if
we
want
we've
experimented
with
it.
Like
the
prediction
market,
which
is
linked
to
proposal,
he
has
to
have
some
end
date
right
and
and
wait
like
two
days
after
yeah.
G
Yeah
like
we
could
have
like
the
the
market
creator
could
have
known
that
something
like
that
can
happen
in
holographic
consensus
like
if
you
then
yeah
the.
A
E
B
You
there's
a
key
difference
here,
right,
snapshots,
free,
so
the
problem
we
just
talked
about
right,
where
it
costs
hundreds
of
dollars
to
vote.
What
is
that
causing
to
happen?
It's
very
obvious
right.
How
many
votes
do
we
have
on
proposals?
Sometimes
only
one,
if
you
have
only
one
person
voting
on
a
proposal,
the
quiet
ending
period
is
super
critical
right,
because
if
you
have
low
voter
turnout
as
a
normal
state,
it
doesn't
even
need
to
be
a
cartel.
Anybody
here
could
just
simply
wait
to
the
very
last
minute
and
flip
a
vote
right.
J
Yeah,
I
I
I
want
to
add
to
this.
Maybe
that
like
it's
actually
I
mean
I,
I
guess
it
started
as
sort
of
I
don't
know
if
a
bug,
but
you
know
the
fact
that
you
know
there's
high
gas
fees
and
it's
very
expensive
to
vote.
It
became
sort
of
feature
of
holographic
consensus
that
you
can
pass
a
vote
with
minimal
amounts
of
participation.
J
So
you
know
if,
if
john's
worker
proposal
has
been
voted,
yes
and
I
see
that
it's
being
voted
yes
and
it
will
pass,
then
I
say:
okay,
I
don't
need
to
vote
on
it
because
that's
kind
of
in
agreement
of
the
dao
dow,
once
you
have
contentious
proposals
or
or
things
that
are
debatable.
You'll
have
high
participation
rates.
Like
john
said,
if
we
don't
have
the
quiet
ending
time,
the
guarantee
will
be
proposals
that
are
trying
to
exploit
this
and
basically
flip
it
in
the
last
minute.
B
Yeah
and
this
and
this
kind
of
goes
back,
I
think
a
core
thing
to
consider
with
voting
in
a
holographic
consensus
world
is
voter
attention
right.
It's
all
about
voter
retention,
it's
very
important
to
direct
voter
attention
to
where
it
needs
to
be,
and
time
is
obviously
an
issue
here.
We
sleep,
we
go
on
vacation
whatever
and
if,
if
something
can
change
in
a
very
short
time
frame,
it
just
breaks
voting
and
that's
why
we
could
take
seven
days
to
pass
a
proposal,
etc.
J
Also,
I
kind
of
want
to
add
that,
in
terms
of
participation
rates,
average
proposal
on
diggsdow
has
more
like
percent
reputation
voted
on
than
like
wi-fi
proposals,
which
is
you
know
it's
it's
kind
of
interesting,
because
it's
free
in
wi-fi
so
yeah.
This
is
just
like
you
know
something
to
mention
like
the
voter
apathy
is
existent
in
all
governance
systems.
This
has
just
protection
against
it.
D
A
Augusto,
do
you
want
to
maybe
close-
I
think,
we'll
close
this
out
here
and
we
can
maybe
push
this
to
like
a
poll
in
the
forum
if
we
can't
get
consensus
here.
H
Yeah
yeah.
No,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
someone
body
and
last
minute
and
using
his
bout
in
power
to
turn
at
the
vote.
I
mean
that's
how
it
works.
That's
how
democracy
works
everywhere.
If
that
is,
if
you
created
a
proposal
that
you
think
that
can
be
overrun
at
last
minute,
you
should
try
to
get
more
votes
on
it
and
maybe
the
minimal
many,
maybe
the
minimal
amount
of
votes
that
in
your
head
is
enough
for
your
proposal
to
pass
is
not
enough.
H
Maybe
two
percent
is
not
enough
and
you
should
try
to
get
to
five,
for
example,
which
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
safe
number.
You
can
get
maybe
two
three
four
five
with
I
know
five
people
voting,
maybe
six,
maybe
that's
the
minimum
amount
of
votes
and
you
need-
and
we
are
on
an
organization
where
there
is
more
than
400
accounts.
So
if
you
have
only
two
votes,
only
two
accounts
voting
on
a
400
on
or
400
that's
a
very
low
participation
rate.
So
maybe
we
should
aim
for
something
a
bit
higher.
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
the
key
thing.
If
you're
going
to
make
the
analogy
to
have
democracies
and
voting
works
in
other
systems,
most
of
these
other
systems,
like
the
senate
in
the
united
states,
you
have
a
quorum
right.
You
can't
have
one
person
pass
a
bill,
but
we
don't
have
any
quorum.
So
that's
a.
J
Big
difference
right,
yeah,
but-
and
you
know
another
difference
to
democracy-
is
that
you
you
vote
once
every
four
years,
like
it's
concentrated
and
once
every
four
years
you
have
to
vote
on
something
I
think
it
will
like
the
dig
style
system
will.
Actually,
I
don't
know,
maybe
migrate
into
something
like
that
that
big
proposals
that
are
being,
I
guess
offered,
will
happen
every
set
period
of
time,
and
you
know
we
will
call
upon
the
entire
reputation
of
the
dig
style
to
vote
on.
G
Yeah,
so
for
me
it's
very
simple:
if
we
remove
the
overtime,
we
will
remove
a
security
protection,
which
means
we
will.
We
are
more
attackable
and
that
doesn't
make
sense
like
we
should.
Actually
it's.
B
No,
it's
very
simple
think
of
an
example.
Let's
say
I
make
a
proposal
right
now
that
says,
send
out
a
million
dollars
to
me
and
then
somebody
votes
against
it
right.
So
it
looks
like
it's
going
to
fail.
Nobody
wants
to
spend
the
gas
cost,
so
they
don't
vote
anymore.
I
wait
to
the
very
last
minute
and
I
vote
for
it
and
I
take
the
money
around
that's
extremely
dangerous.
We
can't
do
this.
H
None
because
it
still
needs
to
be
boosted
and
a
boat
only
after
boosted
proposals.
If
not
your
reputation
can
get
locked,
but.
A
Yeah
holographic
consensus
and
staking
it's
like
it
almost
like
accomplishes
or
boosting
proposals
it
like
accomplishes
the
aim
of
quorum
without
nectar,
necessarily
like
establishing
it
so
yeah.
I
think
it's
it's
it's
tough.
I
don't
know.
I
don't
want
to
we're
kind
of
a
little
going
around
in
circles
here.
I
think
we're
like
disagreeing,
so
I
don't
know
how
much
more
time
we
want
to
spend
on
this,
but
I
think
we
kind
of
need
to
get
some
consensus
here.
B
B
C
B
H
J
Agusta,
I
want
to
say
that
you
know
there's
what
we
want
a
governance
system
to
be,
or
you
know
how
we
want
people
to
participate
in
it
and
then
how
they
actually
use
it
and
like
we,
we
can
try
and
you
know,
force
people
to
use
a
system
a
certain
way,
but
they
will
use
it.
You
know
the
way
that
feels
the
most
comfortable
for
them
and,
I
think,
jack
from
colony
when
he
came.
J
They
took
this
what
we
described
to
like
a
whole
nother
level
for
them
a
proposal
when
someone
makes
it
automatically
passes
until
someone
challenges
it.
So
it's
kind
of
like
the
same
thing
here
we
assume
and,
as
you
can
see
like
99
of
the
proposals
in
the
dow
in
the
dx
dow
have
passed
because
there's
consensus
around
them,
so
you
don't
even
need
everyone
to
vote
on
them.
So
this
is
kind
of
the
notion
of
of
you
know
this
governance
system
and
a
good
protection
against
you
know.
B
A
B
A
A
Else,
cool,
let's
kind
of
quickly
touch
on
the
tenderly,
want
tenderly
one.
I
think
just
tenderly
want
tenderly,
which
is
a
meme,
mean
pool
explorer
that
we
talked
about
on
the
development
call
yesterday
and
I
think
it's
a
really
cool
product
that
could
really
add
some
interesting
features
to
deekstyle
products
and
yeah.
So
I
think
it's
a
500
a
month
service
that
we'd
like
to
purchase,
so
that
needs
to
go
through
a
proposal
and
we
need
to
figure
out
exactly
how
to
make
that
payment,
but
yeah.
A
I
think
there
was
pretty
broad
support
for
it
yesterday
on
the
developer
call.
So
I
didn't
know
if
anyone
else
had
any
thoughts
about
it
here,
there's
a
little
bit
of
some
logistics
to
figure
out
on
how
exactly
we're
paying,
but
I
think
it
seems
to
be
a
service
that
we
would
like
to
to
pay
for.
L
Yeah,
like
one
shot
side
note
from
my
side,
I
am
not
sure
how
deep
I
mentioned
it
yesterday
but
like
we
talked
a
lot
about
potential
integration
in
edx
style
products,
but
for
the
first
use
case,
and
that's
why
it's
kind
of
like
urgent
from
my
case
or
from
my
perspective,
is
that
we
actually
plan
it
for
some
of
these
security
operations
of
the
duke
style,
especially
like
for
monitoring
the
multi-core
proposals
and
also
an
integration
and
alchemy.
I.
A
And
then,
in
terms
of
next
steps,
should
we
yeah
like
how
should
we
get
a
proposal?
I
mean
I'd,
be
happy,
I
mean
it'd,
be
fine
if
the
the
first
one
we
needed
was
a
a
little
bit
of
a.
We
just
had
a
proposal
that
sent
the
money
to
you
or
to
someone
else
or
put
in
escrow
like
how
should
we
kind
of
move
forward
with
this.
L
K
Sure
thing
so,
hi
everyone
welcome
from
central
here,
I'm
here
for
the
logistic
parts
of
things.
Let's
show
that
I'm
a
real
person
as
well
anywho.
So
basically
I
don't
know
if
you
guys,
if
you
would
be
doing
the
proposal,
then,
if
you're
beeping
every
month,
if
you
would
be
voting
for
every
month's
payment,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
that
well.
A
We're
just
thinking
about
an
earlier
discussion
about
proposals.
I
feel
like
this
is
an
example
of
one
we'd
like
to
probably
have
vote
once
and
then
maybe
like
stream
the
payments
going
forward.
Having
said
that,
we
definitely
don't
have
like
the
technical
capabilities
to
do
that
right
now.
K
Okay,
so
that
I
guess
like
also
an
escrow
account
where
we
could
like
pull
every
first
of
the
month
is
also
a
thing
we
would
be
open
to.
So
that's
another
one
and
then
basically,
there's
also
a
way
where
you
guys
can
pay
up
front,
for
example,
for
five
months,
and
we
would
then
bundle
an
additional
amount
for
free,
for
example.
So
you
would
basically
pay
2500
usd
and
we
would
activate
tenderly
for
six
months
and
then
you
can
postpone
this
decision
for
six
months.
K
That's
that's
another
thing
that
we
can
do
it's
basically
up
to
you
guys.
So
I
mean
we're
open
for
all
of
the
other
ways
as
well.
So
yeah.
A
I
think
we
have
a
forum
post
on
this.
I
remember
seeing
something
but
niko
you
might
have
just
said
that
to
me
correctly.
I
can't
remember
if
we
we
have
a
forum
post
on
this,
then
we
can
maybe
like
follow
up
on
there
exactly
the
logistics.
I
think
sky
is
saying
a
multi-sig
might
make
sense
too.
We
would
have
to
probably,
if
we're
going
to
do
it
soon
about
obviously
only
be
in
eth.
A
So
maybe
we
go
through
something
that's
something
specific
for
the
first
time
and
then
we
think
of
a
long
longer
term
solution
here.
K
When
it
comes
to
and
everything
else,
we
must
unfortunately
due
to
regulatory
reasons
here
at
serbia,
except
in
usdt
only
so
it
has
to
be
a
stable
currency
and
right
now
we
have.
We
have
everything
set
up
for
usdt
on
our
side,
so
I'm
not
a
fan
of
it.
I
would
much
more
gladly
accept
die,
but
things
are
the
way
they
are.
Unfortunately,.
A
Yeah
I
was
just
laughing
at
usdt
having
some
like
regulatory
approval.
It's
is
is
interesting.
Considering
it's
it's
it's
a
structure.
We.
A
K
A
Yeah,
I
think,
a
multi.
I
think
a
multi-stake
probably
makes
sense
for
this
first
one
and
we
can
do
the
transaction
or
exchange
off
or
outside
of
dx
style,
maybe
in
the
in
the
multisig.
L
A
And
then
moving
along
wanted
to
provide
another
update
on
the
contributor
guidelines
we
talked
about
last
week.
I
think
the
first
maybe
draft
that
we
have
of
a
chunk
of
that
we've
got
completed
that
pulp's
been
working
on
and
this
is
specific
to
an
onboarding
guide
and
having
kind
of
a
steps
of
that
so
pope
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
take
over
and
maybe
walk
us
through
what
you
have
so
far.
D
Yeah
actually,
there's
one
point
that,
after
kind
of
fully
drafting
it
through,
I
kind
of
wanted-
we
talked
about
it
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up,
but
yeah,
please,
you
know
when
you
guys
have
some
time,
take
a
look
at
it
and
if
there's
any,
please
comment
if
there's
anything,
that's
confusing
to
you
or
too
much
detail.
D
Anything
like
that,
but
the
main
thing
like
policy
wise
for
us
is
the
idea
of
the
trial
period.
We
kind
of
came
to
consensus
two
weeks
ago
about
doing
a
two-week
trial
period
in
order
it's
kind
of
like
an
anti-sybil
attack,
which
I
think
is
a
great
idea
and
definitely
based
on
our
past
like
issues
or
experience,
it's
necessary.
D
My
one
question,
though,
is
then:
it
gets
very
kind
of
mushy
and
confusing.
With
our
current
structure,
we
had
more
of
a
two-month
trial
period
where
we
have
this
like
70
payment,
90
payment,
then
100
payment,
it's
it's
just
it's
getting
a
little
bit
bureaucratic
in
my
opinion,
and
that's
just
my
opinion.
If
people
disagree,
it's
fine,
but
it
feels
a
little
bit
like
okay,
okay,
we're
doing
this
two-week
trial
period.
We
want
to
make
sure
you
say
who
you
say
you
are
you
can
do
the
work,
all
that
kind
of
stuff?
D
Okay,
here's
your
performance
review
after
two
weeks.
Now
it's
like
okay!
So
when
I'm
putting
in
this
worker
proposal,
am
I
asking
for
70
for
or
you
know,
am
I
doing
a
two-month
period
request?
Am
I
asking
for
70
in
the
first
month
and
90
in
the
second
month,
there's
just
like
so
many
random
factors
that
it
gets
a
little
bit
like?
D
What's
what
exactly
are
we
trying
to
accomplish
with
the
you
know,
with
all
these
different
steps,
and
if
we
want
to
do
a
trial
period,
should
we
maybe
extend
it
to
one
month
and
make
that
this
anti-symbol
portion
of
pay
month
or
should
we
try
to
do
something
else?
Stick
with
the
two-week
and
just
kind
of
maybe
remove
this
whole
percent
of
pay
for
new
workers
scheme.
A
Yeah
and
just
to
looking
at,
like
the
worker
proposal
guide,
I
think
this
is
hopefully
and
martin,
as
you
talked
to
a
couple
people
and
trying
to
onboard
people.
Hopefully
this
really
is
something
that
people
can
take
and
like
have
as
a
pure
explanation
for
like
how
do
I
get
prepaid?
When
should
I
get
like
send
a
proposal?
What
should
be
in
my
proposal?
A
So
I
think
this
guide
is,
is
a
pretty
handy
one
that
actually
has
like
text
for
what
the
proposal
should
be
and
how
to
calculate
it,
and
I
think
that
kind
of
the
question
that
pulp
is
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
trial
period
is
maybe
the
the
biggest
question
mark.
We
have
on
how
to
kind
of
explain
that
or
how
to
do
that
so
yeah
in
terms
of
the
trial
period.
How
should
we
approach
that
as
a
as
an
onboarding
guide?
M
N
Yeah,
basically,
I
combined
this
with
the
one
you
sent
me
for
the
website.
So
basically
that
was
like
had
the
tables
it
was
like
more
organized,
but
generally
the
the
idea
is
like
really
simple.
I
mean
you
go
on
a
trial
and
then
test
your
team
dynamics
with
like
dx
style
and
then
how
you
work
together,
but
you're
also
not
being
used
for
like
free
work,
etc.
So
it's
like
you're
trying
you're
trying
to
see
how
you
you
work
together.
So
that's
what
that's
one
of
the
cool
things
about
the
proposal.
N
For
me.
It
makes
it
made
clear
like
you
do
like
you,
you
place
yourself
on
level
one
to
five
and
then
decide
how
many
hours
you're
going
to
work,
and
then
you
do
the
math
on
your
own
and
then
start
submitting
proposals
and
then
starting
submitting
what
you're
going
to
work
on
for
the
next
two
days
or
for
like
the
next
seven
week,
days,
etc.
N
But
I
I
think
I'm
missing
something.
So,
for
example,
are
there
like
daily
stand-ups
in
terms
of
like
when
we
do
like
agile.
M
N
M
N
Okay,
so
maybe
like
you,
basically
create
a
crew
or
like
a
micro
team.
Yes,
that
manages
the
project
and
then
they
do
like
a
like
a
governance
between
themselves
and
then
they
decide
what
the
eventual
result
is.
Yes,
yes,
that's
the
idea.
Okay,
I
think
okay,
yeah.
G
I'm
part
of
the
omen
team
and
for
several
weeks
now
we
didn't
have
any
calls,
because
we
knew
everyone
is
just
busy,
and
everyone
knows
what
what's
to
be
done.
But
now
we're
actually
like
growing
to
a
point
where,
like
once
per
week,
we
do
a
sync-up
call.
So
it's
like
it's
definitely
up
to
the
to
the
project,
to
the
team
to
decide
how
they
organize
it's
they.
G
I
don't
think
it
is
smart
to
have
like
a
global
rule
for
everyone,
so,
like
everyone,
every
project
should
decide
how
they,
how
they
handle
communication
and
structure.
N
M
N
Coming
definitely
definitely
that's
like
80
hours,
which
is
more
than
enough
to
see
how
the
new
the
new
person
is
going
to
cooperate
within
the
team.
A
A
So
what
I'm
kind
of
hearing,
maybe
is
the
structure
here
is
like
someone
comes
in
they'll,
say
adam
is
a
perfect
example,
since
I'm
just
kind
of
talking
today,
so
they
have
a
two-week
trial
period
that
is
going
to
be
administered
or
kind
of
scope
of
work
is
given
by
like
a
squad
guide
or
product
manager
that
martin's
doing,
and
then
at
the
end
of
that
two
weeks,
they
if
everything
goes
as
well
and
right.
I
think
we
defer
to
the
squad
guide
on
that
or
squad
leader.
A
Then
they
would
submit
a
worker
proposal
which
would
have
a
kind
of
scope
of
work,
and
that
would
presumably
cover
two
months
and
then
in
that
worker
or
sorry
one
month
there
would
be
one
month
payment
in
that
worker
proposal
and
then
for
that
worker
proposal.
Would
the
payment
be
at
100
since
they've
already
passed
the
trial
period
is
that,
where
we're
ending.
M
You
know
that's
right
now.
I
I'm
on
my
second
month.
I
think,
and
in
a
way
it's
okay,
because
you
really
have
to
adjust
to
to
the
system
and
it
needs
yeah.
You
need.
I
don't
know
it
needs
time.
You
know
to
get
really
involved
and-
and
you
are
not
that
performant
if
you're
much
more
performant
if
you
are
in
for
several
months,
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
fair,
it's
on
the
on
the
on
the
person
for
themselves.
That's
a
discussion.
I
I
think
it's
okay.
For
me,
it's
okay
personally,
because
yeah,
but.
D
I
don't
know
it's
good
like
both.
I
think
all
of
us
would
don't
really
have
any
skin
in
the
game
with
this
question
at
this
point,
because
we're
kind
of
going
to
be
past
that
stage
anyways.
But
I
agree
it's
definitely
a
bit
of
a
pick
up
phase,
no
matter
what
just
to
get
yourself
familiar
with
everything,
but
I'm
more
thinking.
Just
as
like
clarity
of
structure
and-
and
you
know
it's
a
lot
for
it's
already
we're
already
kind
of
a
new
structure
it.
D
We
understand
that
there's
some
pick
up
time,
but
as
long
as
people
are
meeting
their
goals
and
we're
doing
performance
reviews,
do
we
really
need
to
be
doing
this
calculation
of
70
90
for
the
next
two
months?
We
just
had
this
discussion
about
how
we
have
too
many
worker
proposals
currently
in
our
on-chain
voting
system,
and
that
means
we
are
going
to
require
a
new
worker
to
do
two,
a
proposal
and
then
a
payout
in
the
first
month
and
the
second
month.
M
One
other
reason
to
do
is
this:
you
know
you
make
too
many
two
months
two
weeks
trial
and
then
then
you,
you
know
how
it
works,
but
then
you
at
this
point,
if
you
have
to
make
like
a
proposal
for
two
months,
I
don't
know
for
me
it
would.
It
would
be
too
difficult
to
say
what
I'm
doing
the
next
two
months
for
my
for
myself,
maybe.
N
N
So,
maybe,
like
I'm,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
like
leaning
toward
agreeing
with
pulp
on
like
going
with
the
two
weeks.
It's
like
much
ease,
much
more
favorable
for
everyone.
A
F
You
could
be
a
bit
more
aggressive
with
the
payment
reduction,
perhaps
something
like
fifty
percent
for
your
two
week
trial
period
and
then
then
full
pay
for
if
we
want
to
continue
working
with
you.
A
D
That's
what
I
would
propose
just
for
clarity
and
simplicity,
and
I
think
I.
M
I
I
think
that
it
makes
sense
to
have
it
simpler,
the
calculation,
but
in
a
way
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible
to
you're
new
and
then
you
have
like.
If
you
take
you
serious,
you
have
to
write
down
what
you
do
the
next
two
months
and
sometimes
it's
not
very
clear
what
you
do
in
the
next
two
months.
So
how
should
what
should
you
write
down
in
that
moment?
B
M
Me
for
myself
it
has
been
not
easy,
but
it
was
possible
to
do
it
for
one
month
and
for
two
months
it's
just
yeah.
I
don't
know
for
me,
it's
it's
it's
it's
for
me
as
a
person,
it's
difficult
to
say
what
I
will
do
in
the
next
two
months
like
you
know
that
it's
not
not
difficult
to
say,
but
it's
difficult
that
because
then
you
think
you
have
to
fulfill
this.
M
What
you,
what
you
told
people,
but
maybe
goals,
are
shifted
in
this
time
and
then
anyway,
yeah
it's
changing
and
if
you
knew
the
possibility
that
the
goals
are
shifted,
it's
much
higher
than
if
you're
long
or,
if
you're
part
long
of
the
system.
But
these
are
details.
You
know
in
the
in
the
end
yeah
it's
not
so
important
how
how
yeah.
F
Is
it
possible
that
this
could
be
mixed
in
with
our
experience
level
system
we
have?
Currently?
Perhaps
you
know
your
first
and
or
first
and
second
month
could
be
an
experience
level
lower
than
your
desired
level
to
make
sure
that
those
first
two
months
end
or
month
are
you're
able
to
properly
give
the
work
that
you're,
saying
you're
able
to.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
that
is
a
little
complex.
I
guess
I
think
we're
we're
getting
to
a
little
bit
of
a
structure
here,
but
I
I
think
we're
going
a
little
bit
in
circles.
I
mean
we
can.
I
think
we
we
should
get
a
post
up
of
this
in
the
forum
and
then
we
can
kind
of
go
from
there,
but
like
to
me
this.