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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - December 9, 2022
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This is a recording of the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting.
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A
Okay,
we're
live,
welcome
back
folks
to
another
town
hall
and
go
ahead
and
get
started,
even
though
we
might
have
one
or
two
more
joining
I.
Think
John
at
least
will
be
coming
back
here
soon,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
going
here.
I
want
to
start
with
welcoming
a
new
participant,
Jesse
Robinson
thanks
for
joining
us
Jesse.
You
want
to
please
introduce
introduce
yourself
for
us.
A
Tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
background
and
how
you
found
your
way
to
us
and
any
particular
interests
you
have
and
how
you
might
be
able
to
be
looking
to
get
involved
or
how
you
might
be
able
to
help
us
out
sure.
B
Yeah
so,
as
you
said,
my
name
is
Jesse
Robinson
I'm,
the
director
of
the
glimsher
tech
and
design
Hub
at
Shadyside
Academy,
in
which
it
which
is
in
Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania.
She
decides
a
K-12
school,
but
I
focus
mainly
on
the
the
senior
school
campus.
B
B
Actually,
wrapping
up
my
dissertation
at
Duquesne
University
talking
about
makerspaces,
specifically
my
initial
interest
in
the
enabled
project
is
this
year:
I
run
three
classes
in
my
Makerspace,
but
my
favorite
class
is
called
Community
connections
and
Tech
and
design,
and
the
theme
changes
every
year
and
this
year
our
focus
is
on
assistive
technology,
so
we've
partnered
with
enable
and
we're
my
students
are
starting
their
their
Phoenix
version,
three
hands
and
we've
also
partnered
with
the
open
wheelchair
project,
where
we'll
be
soon
starting,
our
open
wheelchair
PVC
construction
and
so.
B
We've
also,
we
have
one
student
who's
actually
going
to
be
presenting
to
my
class
pretty
soon
she
works
volunteers
at
a
veterinarian
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
some
possible
prosthetics
for
Animals
there
as
well
excellent.
A
Okay,
I
just
want
to
recap
a
little
bit
of
that
since
John
just
was
able
to
join
us,
because
I
I
want
to
make
sure
he's
aware
of
this.
So
John
Jesse
joins
us
as
a
you're,
a
teacher
at
what
school
yeah.
B
A
B
It's
it's
an
instructional
technology,
it's
in
instructional
technology,
but
my
focus
is
on
maker
spaces,
more
so
kind
of
a
cart
before
the
host
horse,
meaning
I.
B
Think
98
of
makerspaces
are
probably
made
wrong
or
incorrectly
in
the
fact
that
we,
you
know,
we
fill
them
with
multi-million
dollars
worth
of
equipment
and
don't
really
put
much
thought
in
pedagogy
and
Scaffolding
first,
and
you
know
that
seems
to
be
true
in
Independent
Schools
at
least
where
you
know
we
I
have
all
the
3D
printers
and
all
the
laser
cutters
and
all
the
vinyl
cutters,
and
you
know,
following
the
kind
of
a
cookie
cutter
model
of
most
maker
spaces,
and
then
you
know
we
we
think
okay,
now
what,
after
we
have
all
the
equipment.
A
B
Called
Community
connections
and
Tech
and
design
and
that
changes
every
year
so
the
first
year
we
created
a
children's
show
where
the
students
learn:
puppetry,
animatronics
game,
green
screen
techniques
and
animation
the
second
year
we
did
sustainability.
So
this
the
kids
learned
Hydroponics
we
did
the
Ikea
grow
room,
which
is
an
open
source
project.
B
I
actually
have
to
spray
for
fungal
fungus
gnats
later
today,
because
that's
it
is
what
my
maker
space
is
currently
filled
with,
and
then
this
year
the
focus
is
on
assistive
technology,
so
we
partnered
with
we're
partnering
with
enable
creating
our
first
arms
or
hands
and
then
we've
also
partnered
with
the
open
wheelchair
organization,
foundations.
Awesome.
That's.
A
Awesome
so,
like
I
said,
I'm
really
glad
you
could
join
us
for
the
benefit
of
of
Jesse.
Let's
maybe
go
around
and
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions
for
the
rest
of
us,
I'll,
just
I'll
start
so
I
think
Jesse
already
knows
me:
I'm
Jeremy,
Simon
long
time,
member
of
the
enable
team,
one
of
the
co-founders
with
John
here
and
really
help
wherever
I
can
behind
the
scenes.
A
I
do
a
lot
of
infrastructure,
stuff,
I,
I,
sort
of
share
a
lot
of
my
businesses
infrastructure
to
help
support,
enable
and
do
a
lot
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
to
to
help
where
I
can
and
let
me
hand
it
over
to
John
Nix.
D
So
hi
nice
to
meet
you
I
love
what
you're
working
on
Jesse
co-founder
of
enable,
but
currently
also
very
much
involved
in
Eco
restoration
as
a
way
of
addressing
climate
issues.
I
was
not
familiar
with
the
Ikea
grow
room
but
I'm
looking
at
it
now
now
so
you
have,
you
have
done
a
grow
room,
but
it
was
a
one-year
project.
D
It's
an
ongoing
thing.
Well,
that'll
be
something
to
talk
about
as
well
just
to
connect
the
dots
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
I
decided
that
this
this
little
enable
experiment
had
had
proven
that
it
has
legs
and
it
has
lasted,
and
it
has
been
addressing
a
niche
problem.
D
There's
a
non-niche
problem
that
threatens
all
of
us
right
now
and
so
I'm
sort
of
exploring
the
possibility
that
we,
some
of
what
we
learned
at
enabled,
could
be
applied
to
the
climate
problem,
so
I'm
pulling
together
a
Global
Network
of
volunteers
who
are
in
that
space
to
see
what
we
can
do
and-
and
that's
my
history
in
a
nutshell,.
A
All
right,
let's
go
over
to
Ward
next,
if
you're
able
to
talk
in
awards
at
the
office
yeah.
C
Yeah
yep
word
Halloween
mechanical
engineer:
I've
been
engineering
for
a
long
time,
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you
how
long
I'm
licensed
I
got
my
professional
engineering
license
in
the
state
of
Connecticut
and
I'm
here
for
any
support.
Anybody
needs
I,
guess,
engineering,
wise.
B
E
I'm
Sarah
Gilbert
I'm,
a
journalist
with
a
background
in
public
health
and
and
medical
research
and
I
am
taking
over
for
for
Ben
Reuben
as
enables
current
media
coordination.
Fellow
so.
A
Being
able
to
talk
at
him,
you're,
muted,
hey
sorry,
I
posted
something
in
the
comments.
I've
got.
Oh.
A
A
A
number
of
important
projects
he's
got
a
background
in
sort
of
I'm
gonna
get
this
wrong,
I'm
sure,
but
process
engineering
as
well
as
Healthcare,
help
me
out
if
I,
if
I
got
that
wrong
in
the
chat,
but
I
know
he
has
this
really
interesting
combined
background
in
in
in
the
healthcare
space
combined
with
process
engineering,
and
so
he's
been
helping
us
to
kind
of
get
our
act
together
and
is
helping
to
work
on
a
number
of
important
projects
like
in
Afghanistan
initiative,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
devices
into
those
that
need
them
physical
therapy,
with
an
emphasis
and
amputee
Rehabilitation.
A
Thank
you,
Adam,
that's
much
better
than
the
way
I
described
it.
So
he
has
a
very
relevant
background,
but
also
has
is,
is
now
working
on
sort
of
process
engineering,
and
so
he
can
help
us
fix
some
of
our
broken
processes
and
really
been
trying
to
get
some
new
leadership
and
organizational
structure
in
place.
A
Trying
to
find
people
like
yourself
that
are
willing
to
kind
of
step
up
and
help
us
kind
of
move
certain
initiatives
forward,
kind
of
take
ownership
of
certain
areas
of
responsibility
and
enable
it's
been
a
struggle,
because
everyone
has
different
schedules:
everyone's
got
their
day
jobs.
You
know
it's
really
hard
to
coordinate
things
in
an
environment
like
this,
but
Adam
has
been
doing
his
best
to
help
us
try
to
move
things
forward.
A
Yeah
so
he's
been
a
regular
participant
in
these
meetings
and
helping
us
trying
to
find
others
that
we
can
bring
into
the
fold.
So
we're
really
glad
you're
here,
Jesse
there's
lots
to
be
done
and
we
need
help.
Not
only
getting
things
done
but
figuring
out.
Are
these
the
right
things
to
get
done
and
there's
other
things
we
haven't
thought
about
and
I
just?
How
can
we
help
to
best
support
this
community
and
facilitate
its
continued
growth?
You
know
enable
is
a
community
that
has
always
done
its
own
thing.
A
It
grows
by
itself
very
organically
and
it
succeeds.
You
know
without
help
from
us,
but
you
know
that's
not
to
say
that
there
aren't
every
now
and
then
little.
You
know
hurdles
that
that
we
can
help.
You
know
clear,
or
you
know,
areas
that
we
can
help
to.
You
know
smooth
the
way
for
so
we're
just
trying
to
kind
of
help.
Yeah
go
ahead,
John
and.
D
I
would
add
that
when
it
does
proceed
on
its
own
or
it
does
make
advances
when
someone
says
here's
a
particular
thing,
I
want
to
do
and
then
does
it
often
they
can
get
support
around
what
they're
doing.
D
A
Is
when
Sarah
Monday
yep
so
we'll
and
we'll
review
those
upcoming
events,
but
yeah
the
most
important
thing
to
understand
about
us
Jesse
is
that
nobody's
in
charge
here
it's
it's
truly
a
a
volunteer
community
and
everybody
is-
is
an
equal
participant
here
to
whatever
extent
they
want
to
be,
and
so
we
call
it
a
duocracy.
If
you
see
something
that
needs
to
be
done,
you
just
kind
of
do
it
and
you
know
nobody's
gonna
stand
in
your
way.
A
You
don't
need
permission
from
anyone,
we're
all
just
kind
of
doing
our
best
to
help
each
other
out
here.
So
with
that,
let
me
bring
my
notes
back
and
we
will
proceed.
I
was
just
looking
at
that
Garden
very
cool
all
right
so
on
we
go
we're
going
to
review
our
action
items
first
here.
First
one
was
for
me
to
create
an
I
think
this
was
from
last
time.
I
forgot
to
cross
it
off,
but
yeah.
We
did
create
a
new
badge
for
that
adapt.
A
Yeah
I'll
get
a
shipment
off
before
long,
but
it's
a
good
way
to
keep
your
idle
printers
happy
they're,
easy
to
print
and
you
can
just
kind
of
run
them
on
one
right
after
the
other.
So
next
one
is
for
Rick
to
begin
sending
chapter
audit
emails.
But
actually
here
let
me
move
this
one
up.
The
first
one
was
for
me
and
Rick
to
meet
to
review
the
process
for
sending
out
those
emails
following
up
for
the
chapter
audit
and
we
had
something
come
up
and
we
were
not
able
to
meet.
A
We
actually
had
a
meeting
on
the
schedule
but
had
to
had
to
postpone
it
because
something
came
up
so
Rick
and
I
are
gonna
have
to
regroup
this
week
and
get
that
done,
and
then
he
will
begin
sending
out
those
follow-up
emails
to
individual
chapter
leaders.
A
It's
just
I,
like
I,
said
before
it's
going
to
be
a
process.
They
probably
takes
several
months
to
complete
and
and
we'll
just
gradually
fill
in
responses
as
we
can
get
them
and
then
once
we're
done,
you
know
we'll
kind
of
see
what
we're
left
with
and
maybe
retire
some
of
the
ones
that
we
were
never
able
to
reach
Jeremy
and
John
draft
lumio
discussion,
Thread
about
new
proposed
voting
guidelines,
and
that
has
been
done
and
just
this
morning,
I
posted
the
discussion
thread
that
John
and
I
had
drafted.
A
So
it
is
now
up
on
lumio
as
a
discussion
thread.
So
I
would
encourage
all
of
you
to
read
that
I
invited
everyone
that
is
current
member
of
the
Lumia
platform,
so
everyone
should
have
notifications
in
their
inbox
about
this.
But
please
take
a
look
at
that
and
comment
and
share
your
thoughts
in
about
a
week.
This
will
turn
into
a
proposal
which
means
there
will
be
voting
on
it
and
that
voting
will
run
for
10
days
per
our
suggestion
here,
and
then
we
will
see
how
the
voting
goes.
Now.
A
Right
right
anyway,
the
discussion
threat
is
going
I,
see
here
that
it
says
184
we're
notified
and
11
have
seen
it
so
far.
So
it's
off
and
running
so
we'll
see
we'll
revisit
that
next
week
and
see
what
kind
of
hopefully
we'll
have
some
comments
on
that
and
some
discussion
going
that
we
can
review.
A
About,
oh,
that's
a
good
point.
Can
I
ask
one
of
you
to
do
that?
Who
has
who
has
time
John
or
Sarah
who'd
like
to
do
that
I
see
John
smiling
Sarah.
Can
you
help
us
with
that.
C
A
A
E
We
no
we're
gonna
we're
working
on
scheduling
a
call
for
next
week.
Okay,.
A
Sounds
good
Jesse
just
so
that
you
know,
Ian
is
a
professor
with
Brandeis
University
and
he
has
been
helping
us
to
kind
of
coordinate
our
internship
program
and
our
current
intern
is
a
student
named
Nish
who
happens
to
be
I,
think
a
a
student
at
his
University.
But
you
know:
there's
there
was
a
broader
push
using
the
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
it
the
handshake
platform,
which
I
guess
is
for
finding
interns.
A
You
know
across
the
whole
network
of
schools,
and
so
Ian
was
kind
of
helping
us
to
coordinate
and
and
manage
those
interns.
Currently
I
think
we
just
have
one
active
and
Nish
is
working
on
kind
of
helping
us
to
trying
to
revamp
our
device
catalog
and
how
we're
presenting
that
and
there's
discussion
of
trying
to
tie
it
in
with
the
NIH
3D
print
exchange.
The
National
Institute
of
Health
has
a
site
for
3D
print
printable
devices.
A
So
there's
there's
work
supposedly
being
done
there
that
we
wanted
to
just
get
an
update
on
so
that
that's
what
that's
about
and
then
the
next
one
is
Adam-
and
this
is
just
kind
of
this-
has
been
here
a
long
time
which
this
was
the
work
to
try
to
coordinate
this
new
leadership
team,
which
is
unfortunately
proven
to
be
very
difficult.
A
You
know
what
we
really
need
are
people
like
yourself,
Jesse
people
like
Adam
people
like
Sarah,
who
kind
of
come
forward
and
say
I
have
some
time
available,
I'd
like
to
help.
Unfortunately,
these
are
very
hard
people
to
find
John
go
ahead.
A
A
D
Time
for
all
of
our
emergent
leaders
has
been
difficult,
but
Jeremy
I'm
gonna
raise
the
possibility,
Adam
I'm,
going
to
invite
you
to
consider
not
just
being
a
participant
in
these
meetings,
but
becoming
more
of
a
leadership
at
this
these
meetings.
D
It
may
be
that
this
is
the
opportunity
for
those
who
are
together
to
to
begin
taking
a
leadership
role
and
I
I,
just
suspect
that
Jeremy
and
I
have
got
a
certain
momentum
view
which,
at
this
point,
may
be
discouraging
the
direction
so
I'm
just
opening
it
up
to
suggest
that,
since
convening
a
whole
new
cohort
hasn't
worked,
but
in
fact
we've
gotten
Rick
and
Adam
on
board,
encourage
them
to
to
oust
the
old-timers
at
their
convenience.
Yeah.
A
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
many
hundreds
of
these
weekly
meetings,
I've
hosted
and
I'll
just
keep
doing
it
until
somebody.
You
know
kicks
me
aside
so
happy
to
have
somebody
take
over
or
split
it
into
portions
I.
Think
that's
a
good
idea,
but
I
I
I
think
it's
it's
actually
very
encouraging.
Just
what's
Happening
Here
organically,
like
I,
said
I
mean
here
we
are
it's.
You
know
we
got
Adam.
We
got
Jesse
here,
Jesse
just
out
of
curiosity.
How
is
this
day
and
time
for
you?
A
B
B
And
I,
you
know
I
mean
this
is
a.
This
is
one
of
my
busier
semesters.
Okay,
but
you
know
at
maximum
I
teach
two
classes
a
day,
so
yeah
I'm,
pretty
flexible,
terrific.
A
Just
a
side
note:
I,
I'd
love
to
have
a
side
conversation
with
you,
Jesse
I,
just
I'm,
really
interested
in
what
you
do.
Obviously,
I
have
interest
from
my
business
3D
Universe,
where
we
connected
through,
but
also
I,
have
partners
with
an
organization
called
bitspace.
That
I
think
there
might
be
a
lot
of
synergy
there
and
I
don't
know
exactly
how,
but
a
lot
of
what
they
do
is
designing
custom
maker
spaces
and
I
I.
Just
what
you
were
saying
before
about
it
really
sounded.
B
Absolutely
you
know:
I
I
try
to
I
try
to
keep
my
dance
card
filled,
yeah.
A
B
A
Let's
see
did
we
cover
all
the
action
items
I
think
we
did
so
we'll
move
on
I,
don't
have
any
kind
of
special
presentations
lined
up
right
now
we
always
open
these.
These
Town
Hall
meetings
to
special
presentations
from
anyone
in
the
community
Jesse.
A
So
if,
if
somebody
has
an
interesting
project
that
they've
been
working
on-
or
you
know,
has
something
else
that
they
want
to
share,
they're
always
welcome
to
come,
and
you
know
take
time
in
these
meetings
as
and
use
it
as
a
way
of
presenting
to
the
community,
since
these
are
live,
streamed
and
recorded,
but
I
don't
have
any
on
the
schedule
right
now.
A
So
we're
always
just
kind
of
looking
for
you
know
interesting
things
going
on
chapters
that
have
cool
projects
going
on
things
like
that
and
we'll
we'll
try
to
get
those
onto
the
schedule.
Here.
A
Here's
a
look
at
our
weekly
metrics.
We
always
just
kind
of
spend
a
moment
on
these
because
they
don't
they
don't
really
change
that
much
we'll
get
used
to
seeing
pretty
similar
numbers
here
so
just
to
go
through
this
real
quickly.
The
top
section
is
the
enable
Hub.
That's
kind
of
where
we,
you
know,
coordinate
and
collaborate
and,
and
you
know,
connect
with
each
other.
We've
got
over
3000
active
members
in
there
right
now.
A
We
had
19
new
folks
come
in
this
week
over
15
000
posts
in
our
main
Forum,
but
that
includes
all
the
messages
that
were
ported
in
from
our
previous
platforms.
So
that's
actually
a
you
know
almost
a
decade
worth
of
history
there
that
represents
five
posts.
This
week,
four
topics
that
were
covered
by
those
four
posts-
each
post
gets
flagged
with
topics
that
it
has
in
it,
and
15
likes
just
indicate
how
much
engagement
we
have.
A
People
are
spending
an
average
of
just
under
three
minutes
on
the
on
the
Hub
in
the
session
enable
web
Central
is
a
matching
platform
that
we've
run
for
a
number
of
years
now,
but
it's
it's
I
I
will
say
it's
life
is
likely
coming
to
an
end.
We
are.
We
are
really
trying
to
find
the
right
alternative
because
we
no
longer
have
the
development
support
that
we
need
to
maintain
a
platform
like
this,
and
so
we
are
really
working
to
find
a
good
alternative
and
we're
testing
one
that
we
have
up
now.
A
We'll
talk
more
about
that
later.
We
think
we
have
somewhere
around
200
chapters,
but
we're
in
the
midst
of
a
chapter
audit,
so
that
number
will
change
as
we
figure
out
how
many
really
are
still
active.
Our
help
desk
saw
14
inquiries
that
were
enabled
related
this
week.
10
badge
requests
and
one
enable
web
Central
related
inquiry
for
a
total
of
25
tickets.
A
All
of
those
are
being
handled
by
Rick
Williams
who's,
usually
at
these
meetings,
he's
probably
tied
up
this
week,
but
he'll
be
back
next
week,
I'm
sure
so
he
he
handles
all
these
tickets
through
the
help
desk
for
us
now,
which
is
which
has
really
been
a
huge
help
and
our
enable
fund,
which
is
the
collective
fund
that
we
use
to
fund
projects
through
this
lumio
voting
platform
that
we've
alluded
to
stands
at
about
25k,
but
we
have
another
20K
commitment
coming
in
on
an
annual
commitment
that
we
have
from
the
Dora
foundation,
so
that'll
bring
us
back
up
to
the
45k
range
around
the
new
year,
and
that
puts
us
in
pretty
good
shape
for
at
least
another
year
at
the
rate
that
we've
been
using
it
okay,
so
on
we
go,
we
usually
won't
spend
that
much
time
on
the
stats.
A
I
just
wanted
to
just
kind
of
introduce
that
to
Jess
here
hosts
of
note
from
the
week,
so
there
were
okay,
a
few
here.
Thank
you
for
the
help
on
this
Sarah.
The
first
one
here
is
Cena
Joseph
guidance
for
printing
fingers.
Let's
take
a
look
at
this
one.
I
didn't
see
this
one
electronics
engineer
student
from
India
looking
to
build
a
cheap,
affordable,
prosthetic
arm
which
will
be
controlled
using
EMG,
looking
for
a
good
3D
print
file
for
printing,
which
I
can
control
every
finger
independently.
A
We
need
Rick
here
to
answer
this
question.
I
know:
Rick
has
been
working
on
Independent
finger
control
with
separate
actuators
John.
Do
you
know
anybody
else?
That's
been
doing
that
kind
of
thing:
independent
finger,
control.
D
I
think
Eric
bubar's
has
a
group
Eric
bubar
may
have
a
group.
That's
worked
on
this
kind
of
thing
and
Adam
Armfield
comes
to
mind,
but
I
don't
really
know.
Having
said
that,
I
meant
to
write
a
note
to
Cena
pointing
out
that
that's
it's
a
it's
a
very
difficult
task.
It's
the
obvious
thing
if
you're
looking
at
technology
and
Commercial
bionic
Prosthetics,
but
the
fact
is
that
even
the
commercial
bionic
percentage
are
probably
less
functional
than
body
value
Prosthetics
and
let's.
D
A
What
I
was
going
to
say,
I
think
there's
a
middle
ground
here
right
because
I
think
EMG
is,
is
the
problem
potentially,
but
there
are
approaches
to
powered
Prosthetics
that
don't
rely
on
EMG
that
could
be
considered
here.
You
know
there.
There
are
there's
the
the
kind
of
the
button
or
switch
approach
where
you
push
a
button
with
your
your
other
hand
or
flip
a
switch
to
to
actuate
it.
There's
the
there's
people
using
what
is
it
called
a
capacitive
sensor?
A
What
is
the
one
that
does
pressure
on
the
arm
that
senses
pressure
I
can't
think
of
what
it's
called,
but
essentially
a
physical
pressure
sensor
such
that
when
you
are,
are
stressing
your
your
muscles?
It
causes
a
tightening
that
that
actuates
the
sensor,
rather
than
relying
on
EMG,
which
is
more
finicky.
So
there
are
alternatives
and
again
I.
Think
Rick
can
explain
a
lot
more
than
than
I
can
Jesse
I
saw
you
run
and
get
some.
Is
this
something
you've
worked
on
the.
B
This
is
actually
something
one
of
my
students
worked
on,
so
each
finger
is
actually
controlled
by
a
separate
servo.
It's
based
off
of
we,
you
might
you
Bionic,
oh
yeah,
yeah.
We
looked
at
that
one
okay
yeah.
So
currently
the
way
this
is
working
is
there's
a
glove
that
the
student
uses.
Yeah.
C
B
The
fingers
and
that
actually
closes
all
the
the
servos
and.
B
Servos
and
then
it's
run
by
an
Arduino
Nano.
Now
that
can
be,
you
know,
used
that
can
be
probably
partnered
with
just
switches
or
just,
as
you
said,
those
kind
of
compat.
They
have
those
capacitive
fabric
that
can
actually
can
be
touched
and
there's
also
those
Flex
switches,
also
so,
depending
on
what
how
the
muscle
moves
it
can
actually
use
be
used
to
kind
of
clench
clench
the
fist
specifically
but
fantastic.
A
B
A
Yeah,
no
thanks
for
showing
that,
so
you
know
the
usual
routine
Sarah.
If
you
could
help
us,
maybe
post
a
link
to
this
part
of
the
video,
so
they
can
see
listening
on
our
discussion
here,
I
tagged
Rick
in
that
post
and
hopefully
he'll
be
able
to
jump
in
later
and
share
some
some
thoughts
on
that.
Let
me
get
my
shared
screen
back
up.
B
D
Well,
so
Rick
is
working
on
a
multi-finger
control
device
using
linear,
actuators
and
he's
got
really
a
an
unconventional
approach
which
I
think
has
got
a
great
deal
of
Promise
and
he
may
be
presenting
at
the
bionics
World
soon
in
beep,
X,
apps
and
Sarah.
Did
we
get
a
read
from
vivec
about
that?
He.
D
Anyway,
we're
trying
to
get
Rick,
because
it's
really
just
a
brilliant
improvisational
engineer,
I
would
say
to
give
us
a
presentation
about
his
whole
process.
D
Whether
we
get
it
or
not,
is
not
clear
because,
as
I
say,
he's
improvisational
rather
than
prep
Preparatory,
but
he's
doing
really
really
interesting.
Work.
A
A
Started
yeah
I
mean
they
got
files,
they've
got
a
tutorial.
An
assembly
manual
and
Wiki
I
mean
this.
This
looks
very
interesting:
I'm
gonna
have
to
check,
check
the
assembly
manual
out
and
maybe
try
one
of
these.
This
could
be
a
fun
project.
D
You
know
this
is
a
descendant
of
the
exit,
which
was
one
of
the
very
first
of
the
sword
and
I.
Remember
Andreas
Bastian,
saying
these
guys
really
nailed
it
on
the
documentation
and
the
technology,
but
I
have
the
impression
that
it's
a
it's
a
difficult
project,
especially
I,
would
add.
If
you
don't
read,
Japanese
I'm.
A
No
I
think
this
whole
thing
that
it's
loading
yeah
now
this
whole
thing
is
in
Japanese,
so
I
have
to
see.
Maybe
they're
I
wonder
if
their
Wiki
has
a.
B
Oh
there's
the
yeah
there's
the
design
Bloom,
that's
the
Ikea
open,
yeah.
D
B
A
E
B
Pieces
are
but
again
they're
it's
an
it's
a
really
elegant
design.
A
Really
It
looks
interesting.
All
right,
I'll
have
to
go,
spend
some
more
time
with
that.
Okay,
let's
move
on
here,
Arjun
Shah,
Channel,
just
finding
recipients.
This
is
a
common
challenge
that
people
in
our
community
face
that
we've
been
trying
to
sort
out,
which
is
how
do
we
find
people
that
we
can
help
people
that
need
our
devices?
We
know
they're
out
there,
but
they
are
not
aware
of
us
and
we
don't
know
who
they
are.
So
how
do
we
connect
those
dots?
A
So
this
person
is
saying
president
they're,
the
president
of
Forsyth
County
chapter
in
Atlanta,
Georgia
running
the
chapter
through
a
club,
High
School
prepared
everyone
on
how
the
whole
process
works,
but
our
biggest
issue
is
finding
actual
recipients.
We
keep
looking
on
enable
web
Central
can't
find
anything
contacted
some
local
hospitals.
There
aren't
really
interested
it
kind
of
takes
away
from
their
whole
idea
of
profiting
off
a
prosthetic.
If
anyone
has
any
ideas,
okay,
so
I
guess
we
can.
We
can
kind
of
give
the
the
standard
response
here.
A
We
don't
really
have
the
answer,
but
we
can
give
you
some
some
possible
ways.
You
can
go
about
this,
you
can
try
local
organizations
such
as
you
know,
other
schools,
churches
and
other
community
organizations
can
be
a
good
source
for
people
that
might
have
limb
differences
in
your
community
and
what
else
John
help
me
out
here.
C
D
We
normally
there
are.
There
are
support
groups
on
the
web,
but
the
truth
is
I
think
we
should.
D
We
should
think
about
a
communication
when
people
join
the
web,
they're
just
pre-pairs
them
for
the
notion
that
currently
there
are
more
makers
than
recipients
for
these
devices
that
therefore
we
should
direct
them
towards
the
splints
project,
which
does
benefit
people
immediately,
which
is
soon
to
be
announced
and.
D
And
you
know,
I
I
keep
coming
back
to
the
notion
that
I
think
that
Rick's
I
wish
I
could
remember
that.
C
D
Fame
litho
pain
technique
he's
got
a
just
a
lovely
technique
for
producing
a
lithopaine
Jesse
from
a
sonogram
which
allows
blind
mothers
as
well
as
others,
to
sort
of
feel
the
the
the
infant
while
it's
coming
is
a
really
interesting
project
for
enabled
people
between
splints
and
lithophanes.
It's
an
opportunity
to
break
out
of
the
prosthetic.
A
There's
a
lot
more
than
that.
You
know
part
of
what
I
was
hoping
to
see
through
this
project.
That
noosh
is
doing
is
not
only
porting
our
catalog
over
to
NIH
but,
like
I,
said
breaking
into
categories
that
would
include
not
just
Prosthetics
but
also
other
types
of
assistive
devices,
because
there's
so
many
out
there
there's
you
know
little
gadgets
to
help
people
open
doors
or
you
know,
do
other
physical
tasks
that
they
might
not
be
able
to
do.
A
Or
you
know,
tools
for
the
blind
tools
for
the
hearing
impaired,
there's
all
kinds
of
things
that
people
in
our
community
could
be
doing.
If
we
had,
you
know
a
way
of
presenting
those
files
and
instructions,
and
we
just
so
far
I
think
the
focus
has
just
been
entirely
on
the
Prosthetics,
but
it
doesn't
need
to
be
yeah.
D
Let
me
use
this
opportunity
to
report
that
James
quilting
from
enabled
Thailand
was
visiting
this
weekend,
and
he
showed
me
something
that
I'm
actually
quite
excited
about
which
could
potentially
address
this
issue.
D
This
is
the
gripper
hand,
which
he
and
his
now
scores
of
users
in
Thailand
have
found
is
the
most
functional
simplest
device,
and
this,
which
is
a
TPU
printed
cuff,
which
is
printed
flat,
but
is
of
flexible
material
as
you
can
see,
and
produces
a
really
nice
tight,
conformant
and
adjustable
grip.
Now.
The
interesting
thing
about
this
combination
is
that,
with
a
small,
medium
and
large
of
each,
you
could
have
off-the-shelf
solutions
for
near
wrist,
amputees.
D
That
may
well
be,
but
this
raises
the
possibility
that
there
are
probably
thousands
of
people
tens
of
thousands
of
people
in
the
United
States
and
and
around
the
world,
who
could
just
order
one
of
these
from
an
ongoing
inventory
that
we
would
create
of
small
mediums
and
larges
before
we
would
just
make
it
very
easy
for
people
to
ship
them,
because
these
don't
need
customization,
and
he
has
people
who
walk
in
choose
one
and
walk
out
with
a
prosthetic
and
that
might
potentially
address
our
underutilized
maker
situation.
A
Yeah,
it's
a
great
idea-
and
this
is
a
great
example
with
Jesse
being
new
here
and
even
for
Adam
that
maybe
we
haven't
encountered
this
before
with,
but
I
think.
This
is
a
great
example
of
where
we
have
a
great
idea
and
I
think
we
have
all
the
pieces
for
right.
We've
got
the
files,
obviously,
for
printing
what
John
is
showing
us.
We've
got
the
instructions.
A
We've
got
everything
it's
all
in
order
to
make
this
a
successful
sort
of
to
achieve
its
potential,
as
as
John
is
presenting
it,
it's
all
about
how
it's
presented
to
the
community
and
getting
the
right
visibility
on
it,
making
sure
that
people
become
aware
of
it
and
that
this
is,
you
know
something
that
would
be
valuable
to
contribute
through
I
and
that's
where
we've
we've
we've
struggled
is.
Is
you
know
how
to
how
do
we?
How
do
we
share
these
things
in
in
a
way
that
will
get?
A
You
know
the
right
attention
on
them
and
I?
Don't
know,
that's
that's
something
that
needs
somebody
to
kind
of
take
the
lead
on,
because
I
know
John
is
is
busy
with
other
issues.
So
you
know
it's
a
great
idea,
but
now
somebody's
got
to
actually
figure
out.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
present
that
to
the
community
and
get
people
actually
making
those?
Where
do
they
get
sent?
How
do
they
get
collected
distributed
Etc,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
pieces
to
figure
out
there.
A
D
By
the
way,
if
this
is
also
a
next
step
for
for
Ukraine,
I
suspect,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
have
lost
hands
recently
and.
D
D
Well,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
it's
James
has
modified
the
glipper
with
the
gripper
in
in
several
ways,
there's
a
a
little
slot
here,
there's
a
loop
holder,
so
you
can
put
a
pen
or
pencil
in
here
and
it
Nestles
very
nicely
into
place.
Okay,.
A
A
Ty
gripper
hand
for
the
TPU,
cuff,
okay
could
produce
in
small
medium
large
and
be
ready
to
use
Okay
I.
That
sounds
like
it
has
a
lot
of
potential,
given
how
many
people
we
have
that
are
anxious
to
print,
and
you
know,
I
had
this
as
a
separate
topic.
Maybe
we
ought
to
just
jump.
A
Let
me
see
if
there's
any
other
post,
that
we
wanted
to
look
at
okay,
I'll,
tell
you
what
let's
go
through
the
one
other
post
and
we'll
move
quickly
down
and
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
because
I
want
to
talk
about
collection
and
distribution
of
devices,
because
that
ties
into
what
we
were
just
talking
about,
we'll
have
to
figure
out
how
to
make
that
work.
Let's
quickly
go
back
to
our
posts
of
note
from
The
Hub
there's
one
more
here.
A
I
wanted
to
look
at
this
is
from
Joshua
trabzinski,
who
has
a
cute
little
opossum.
That
needs
some
help.
It's
lost
half
of
its
front
leg
below
its
elbow
and
there's
been
some
good
discussion.
I
was
glad
to
see
that
Rick
Williams
jumped
in
on
this
one
and
pointed
out
that
you
might
not
really
tolerate
a
prosthetic,
most
likely
would
nod
off.
He
says,
but
he
had
a
really
interesting
idea
of
just
using
something
like
shrink.
A
Tubing
heat
shrink
tubing,
not
shrinking
it
on
the
on
the
animal's
limb,
but
using
something
of
a
similar
size.
You
know
pencil
or
whatever,
to
form
it
and
just
put
it
on
the
limb
just
to
see
if
the
animal
will
tolerate
having
something
on
there
and
and
trying
it
out
for
even
a
couple
of
minutes
a
day.
I
thought
that
was
a
really
interesting
idea
before
you
go
forward
with
trying
to
make
a
device.
So
I
don't
know
anybody
else,
have
any
any
thoughts
to
contribute
on
this.
A
Just
wanted
to
call
it
out
here,
no
okay!
So
on
we
go.
We
have
other
things
to
discuss
upcoming
recurring
events.
I
won't
go
through
the
whole
list
here,
but
we
do
have
the
next
chapter
leaders
meeting
coming
up
on
Monday
at
noon,
Eastern
that
John
will
be
running
and
remind
me
you're
going
to
talk
about
the
is
it
there.
A
D
Overarching
topic
is
whether
a
naval
in
2023.,
okay,
we're
approaching,
but
we'll
also
talk
about
the
hopefully
just
launched
splints
for
Ukraine
initiative.
Okay,.
A
B
B
A
Yep,
oh,
that
would
be
great
you'll,
find
the
details
on
the
calendar
in
the
hub.
There's
a
zoom
Link
in
there
great
okay
and
then
take
a
quick
look
at
December
events
here,
I
think
there's
only
a
couple
remaining
so
there's
the
chapter
leaders
meeting
that
we
just
talked
about
on
Monday
and
then
the
following
Friday
yeah.
E
It's
so
it's
the
combined
education
and
new
member
Meetup
awesome.
A
Okay,
so
is
there
a
let's
see
talk
about
how
to
mobilize
the
enable
education
efforts
with
David
mazur
of
adapt
3D
and
how
to
it
sounds
like
they'll,
be
talking
about
getting
those
devices
to
people
in
Ukraine.
Anything.
To
add
to
that,
sir.
E
No
so
so
David
is
a
is
a
high
school
student.
He
said
he
may
be
able
to
attend
briefly
for
part
of
the
meeting
and
if
not,
he
will
send
a
video
to
stream
in
the
meeting
right.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so,
let's
move
on
here
discussion,
topics,
I,
don't
need
think
we
need
to
spend
much
time
on
these
first
couple
of
topics.
Splints
for
Ukraine
is
a
very
cool
project.
If
you're
not
familiar
with
it,
There's
the
link
check
it
out
super
easy
to
print
they
print
flat.
You
don't
need
to
form
them.
A
You
just
print
them
flat
flat
pack
them
ship
them
off
to
this
guy
he'll
get
them
to
where
they're
needed
in
Ukraine,
and
then
they
can
thermoform
them
on
the
spot
very
easily,
where
they're
needed
they've
got
downloadable
designs
for
wrist
splint,
which
is
this
one
here
very
simple
design
very,
like
I,
said
very
easy
to
print
flat.
They've
got
finger.
Splints
they've
got
Palm
splints,
so
there's
different
ones.
You
can
choose
from
you
just
got
to
print
them
print
yourself,
a
label
ship
them
off.
That's
all
there
is
to
it.
A
So
it's
a
great
great
way
to
put
your
printers
to
use
without
having
to
spend
much
time
on
it.
Lumio
voting
process.
We
already
covered
all
this,
so
we
had
a
long
discussion
last
time
about
making
some
improvements.
We
hope
to
our
voting
process
and
those
have
been
written
up
in
discussion
form.
Those
have
been
posted
on
lumio,
so
we
invite
everyone
to
review
this
and
share
their
thoughts
on
here
Jesse,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
it.
A
This
lumio
platform
is
how
we
sort
of
make
Community
decisions
together
and
how
we
decide
on
allocating
funds.
So
everyone
decides
together.
So
if
somebody
decides
thinks
something
should
happen
or
that
we
should
invest
money
into
some
project,
then
it
gets
written
up.
It
gets
discussed.
It
gets
voted
on
by
anyone
in
the
community
and
if
the
vote
approves
it,
it
gets
funded.
It's
it's
entirely.
Communal,
Community
Driven.
So
if
you,
if
you
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
get
in
there,
I'd
I'd
love
to
have
you
part
of
that
process
and
you'll.
A
In
fact,
I
can
just
send
you
a
link
to
check
out
later
I'll
just
put
this
in
the
chat
lumio
there.
You
go
all
right
so
that
discussion
thread
is
up
and
running.
Do
a
quick
review
of
Open
tickets
in
our
help
desk
system.
We
don't
have
Rick
here
today,
but
he's
been
pretty
on
top
of
this
lately.
So
I
don't
think,
there's
going
to
be
too
much.
It
looks
like
I
think
he's
had
a
couple
of
appointments.
These
last
few
days
is
they're.
A
Usually
aren't
this
many
tickets,
it
looks
like
he's,
got
about
a
half
a
dozen
that
he
hasn't
gotten
to
yet
I.
Don't
think
it
makes
sense
for
me
to
take
the
time
to
go
through
these
here
together.
I
think,
let's
hold
off
on
these
he's,
going
to
get
through
these
I'm
sure
later
in
the
day,
and
then
we'll
look
at
them
next
week
to
see
if
there's
anything
he
needs
help
with
so
we'll
move
on
the
chapter
audit
is
in
progress.
We
had
a
very
poor
response.
This
is
the
challenge
that
we
always
have.
A
We
send
out
our
our
request
for
information
from
the
chapters.
Please
take
a
moment
to
fill
out
this
form.
It's
it's
a
pretty
simple
form
asking
for
basic
metrics,
take
about
I'd,
say
a
minute
or
two
to
fill
out,
but
of
the
252
that
we
sent
it
to
only
16
have
filled
out
the
forms.
So
now
we
now
we
start
to
try
to
follow
up
with
them
one
one
at
a
time
and
and
try
to
beg
them
to
to
fill
out
our
form.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
skip
this
one
for
now.
I
think
we
have
a
big
discussion
to
have
about
just
how
do
we
get
things
done?
There's
this
whole
discussion
of
task
management
and
how
do
we
encourage
more
people
in
the
community
to
get
involved
and
take
on
initiatives?
Just
this
morning,
I
was
starting
to
play
around
with
the
idea
of
a
like
what,
if
we
use
some
kind
of
a
kanban
approach
and
I
was
starting
to
look
at
platforms
like
this.
One
is
Taiga.
A
There's,
there's
open
source
platforms
that
provide
a
I.
Don't
have
a
sample
up
here
that
I
can
show
you,
but
the
idea
was
a
you
know,
a
kanban
that
we
could
set
up
where
you
just
you
know
what
they
look
like.
You
got
cards
for
each
of
your
different
initiatives.
You
have
different
columns
for
the
different.
You
know,
states
that
they're
in
you
know
open
needs
help.
You
know
waiting
for
review.
You
know
what
needs
to
be
deployed,
whatever
those
those
different
phases
are
and
people
can.
A
A
I
also
went
in
and
and
in
as
I
was
looking
at,
that
I
I
realized
that
in
the
hub
there
was
a
new
module
that
got
released,
which
I
took
the
liberty
of
installing.
So
in
our
main
Forum
now
on
the
sidebar
you'll
see
we
have
tasks
now,
there's
nothing
in
here
right
now,
but
we
now
have
the
ability
to
create
task
lists
and
create
tasks
within
those
lists,
so
I
take
it.
A
The
task
lists
are
intended
to
kind
of
be
for
an
initiative,
and
then,
within
that
initiative
you
can
have
as
many
tasks
as
you
want.
So
we
can
kind
of
group
these
by
initiative,
so
I
I
think
this
is
worth
playing
with,
since
it's
integrated
into
the
Hub.
You
know
pick
a
topic
pick
an
initiative.
Maybe
we
try
using
the
you
know
the
Ukraine
one.
A
But
the
last
topic
I
wanted
to
move
on
to
that
I
did
want
to
take
some
time,
for
is
this
collection
and
distribution
of
enabled
devices,
because
this
kind
of
this
is
relevant
to
what
John
was
talking
about.
If
we
have
a
design
that
we
want
to
invite
the
community
to
just
print,
you
know
in
standard
sizes
and
we'll
we'll
get
them
to
where
they're
needed.
We
got
to
make
sure
we
have
a
good
mechanism
for
that.
A
You
know
because
people
are
going
to
really
want
to
get
involved
with
this
I'm
going
to
start
getting
emails.
Oh
this
is
great.
I
want
to
be
part
of
this.
Where
can
I
send
my
devices,
and
we
need
to
have
a
good
answer
for
that
right
now
we
have
two
places
that
we
tell
people
to
send
their
devices
to
when
people
make
just
generic
devices
in
a
random
scale.
That's
not
for
somebody
in
particular,
and
they
want
to
get
them
to
somebody
in
need.
A
There's
a
group
called
The
enable
Alliance
out
on
the
East
Coast
that
was
supposedly
inventorying
and
testing
and
doing
QA
and
then
getting
them
to
where
they're
needed
and
there's
another
group
in
Atlanta
Georgia.
That
was
supposedly
kind
of
our
enable
collection
point
that
was
supposed
to
be
collecting
and
inventorying
and
queuing
and
again
Distributing
them
to
where
needed
for
I
don't
know.
A
Several
years
now
we
have
been
directing
people
to
send
devices
to
both
of
those
places
and
in
both
cases
we
have
been
completely
unable
to
get
any
reporting
back
whatsoever
from
either
place.
We
have
no
idea
how
many
devices
have
been
received.
We
have
no
idea
where
they
went.
We
have
no
idea
if
they
got
into
the
hands
of
people
that
could
use
them.
A
It's
just
been
a
black
hole
and
in
fact
that's
why
we
started
the
collection
point
in
Atlanta
is
because
you
know
we
weren't
getting
the
information
we
needed
from
the
other,
and
we
were
hoping
that
we
could
do
a
better
job
with
this
one.
It
just
never
panned
out
I,
don't
know
if
the
people
down
there
changed
I,
don't
know
what's
happened,
but
it's
just
a
black
hole
at
this
point,
so
we
really
need
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
establish
a
proper
collection?
A
You
know
process
where
there's
actually
some
reporting,
where
somebody's
maintaining
a
I
mean
it
could
be
as
simple
as
a
Google
sheet
that
you
know
anyone
can
look
at
you
know
and
see
how
many
devices
what
types,
what
sizes,
what
materials
are
they
made
out
of?
Where
have
they
been
sent?
We
don't
even
need
to
know
who
they
were
sent
to.
We
just
need
to
know
you
know.
12
of
them
were
sent
to
you
know.
Afghanistan
10
of
them
were
sent
to
the
UK,
whatever
you
know
some
general
ideas
of
what
they
were.
A
What
would
was
done
with
them?
We've
just
never
figured
out
how
to
pull
that
off.
So
I
think
that
needs
to
be
figured
out
in
order
to
do
what
John
was
talking
about
well.
So
with
that
lengthy
rambling
introduction,
let
me
open
it
up
for
discussion
and
get
your
ideas.
B
Well,
I
mean
it
seems,
like
you
need
more
collection
places
or
what
more
more
collection
hubs
I
mean.
If
these.
A
Maybe
I
mean
it:
it
gets
complex
then,
because
I
have
people
reaching
out
to
me
saying
you
know
as
I.
You
know
the
one
that
operates
the
help
desk.
You
know
we're
always
going
to
increase
from
people
saying.
Where
do
we
send
these
devices
I'm
concerned
that
if
we
have
a
dozen
different
collection
points,
if
I
give
them
a
list?
Well,
you
can
send
it
to
any
one
of
these
places.
You
know
it
kind
of
starts
to
get
confusing
I.
A
D
D
The
answer
is
yes,
if
so,
don't
just
end
up
in
a
carton
somewhere,
and
that
has
to
do
with
whether
there's
a
market
or
pre-made
devices,
which
is
also
an
unaddressed.
Question
I'll,
put
myself
on
music
now,
because
I
can't
mute
the
dog
boy.
A
Your
dog
is
in
a
rare
state
today,
John
so
I,
it
looks
like
we
we
lost
Adam
I
know
he's
not
feeling.
Well,
maybe
we
continue
this
discussion
next
time,
because
I
I
think
he
would
have
valuable
input
into
this
being
that
this
is
his
whole
focus
and
his
current
career
process
and
and
organizational
you
know,
sort
of
improvements,
so
I
I
think
he'd
have
some
valuable
insights
on
this,
so
I'm
happy
to
let
this
sort
of
percolate
for
a
week
and
we
can
revisit
it.
A
But
I
think
this
is
an
important
thing
that
we're
not
doing
right
today
that
if
we
could,
if
we
could
get
this
in
place,
if
we
could
figure
out
this
mechanism,
it's
going
to
help
free
up
a
lot
of
other
sort
of.
You
know
repressed
potential
in
the
community
right
now.
A
We've
got
a
lot
of
people
that
are
that
are
able
to
to
help
produce
these
devices
and
by
the
way,
if
we
can
figure
out
the
mechanism
of
this
of
collecting
and
distributing
devices,
and
if
we
combine
that
with
what
I
was
saying
before
of
broadening
our
catalog
Beyond
Prosthetics
and
opening
it
up
to
include
all
these
other
kinds
of
assistive
devices,
this
same
mechanism
could
benefit
that
as
well
right.
This
could
be
a
collection
point,
for
you
know
devices
for
the
other
types
of
physical
impairments.
A
For
the
hearing
impaired
for
this
you
know
site
impaired
all
these
different
types
of
assistive
devices
you
could
have
inventories
of
all
of
them
and
as
soon
as
you
learn
turn
of
somebody
that
has
a
need
for
one
of
these
things,
you
just
have
one
sent
off
there.
So
there's
some
really
interesting
potential
in
this.
If
we
can
figure
out
how
do
we
get
visibility
into
what's
actually
happening
in
that
collection,
Point?
What's
in
the
inventory
and
what's
gone,
where
that's
the
part,
we
haven't
really
done
well
with
so
far.
D
C
A
Well,
it
could
be,
it
could
be,
I
mean
all
it
would
take.
Is
each
item
would
have
to
you
know:
it'd
have
to
have
a
you
know
a
skew
on
it.
We
have
to
figure
out
how
to
you
know,
label
and
barcode
things,
but
it's
possible
I.
The
trick
is,
you
know
we
couldn't
just
have
people
sending
you
know
sending
all
these
various
things
couldn't
just
be
sent
directly
to
our
warehouse.
They
wouldn't
know
what
to
do
with
them.
What
would
probably
have
to
happen
is
they'd
have
to
come
here.
A
We'd
have
to
figure
out
what
they
are
package
them,
make
sure
they're
labeled
properly
and
then
send
them
off
to
the
warehouse,
which
is
still
not
out
of
the
question
there
are.
There
would
be
other
considerations,
I
mean
we
do
pay,
storage
fees
and
then
pick
and
pack
and
shipping
fees
and
all
that,
but
that
doesn't
mean
it's
not
an
option
for
the
community.
If
we
could
figure
out
how
to
you
know,
share
those
costs
back
and
forth.
D
E
D
For
which
is
probably
are
non-united
States
groups
that
would
use
them
in
bulk
and
I
think
about
the
sonograms,
which
are
custom,
but
quality
control
issues
are
probably
not
too
severe
it.
If
we
really
wanted
to
do
this,
I
think
we
should
focus
on
devices
that
are
happening
to
be
useful
because
they
don't
have
to
be
precisely
customized.
A
Right
now
we
still
have
the
challenge,
then
of
how
do
you
handle
all
the
different
color
options?
I
mean:
do
you
try
to
you
know?
Do
you
do
a
different?
You
know
identifier
for
each
one
of
those
and
try
to
track
them
separately
so
that
somebody
can
request
this
or
that
color
or
do
you
just
consider
them
all
based
on
the
type
of
design
it
is
and
lump
them
all
together
and
they
get
shipped
a
random
color.
A
You
know:
there's
there's
a
lot
of
complexities
to
figure
out
there,
but
it's
something
we
we
could
explore.
If
you
think
that's
worthwhile.
D
A
That's
a
good
point:
I
mean
because
I
don't
think
I'm
in
a
position
to
take
that
on.
So
you
would
still
need
somebody
that
would
maybe
a
school
group
or
something
like
that.
That
would
agree
to
be
the
point
of
receiving
devices
inspecting
them
properly,
identifying
and
labeling
them
and
then
maybe
they're
the
ones
that
would
forward
them
off
to
our
warehouse
or
something
like
that.
You
know
that
is
a
possibility
that
we
could
explore
so
I'd
say:
let's
leave
it
at
this
for
now.
A
Let's
just
we
got
to
figure
out
the
collection
and
distribution
whatever
that
is,
and
yes,
my
my
infrastructure
might
be
one
part
of
a
possible
option,
but
let's
explore
other
options
too
and
see
what
we
can
figure
out.
A
Okay,
we're
at
the
top
of
our
hour,
so
I
think
you
need
to
wrap
for
today.
Let
me
just
ask
if
anyone
else
has
anything
that
you'd
like
to
discuss
before
we
wrap
up.
E
Yeah
I
I
don't
want
to
keep
everyone
over
and
I.
Don't
I'd
also
like
to
have
everyone
there,
including
Adam
and
Rick,
but
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
my
role
and
and
some
ideas
that
I
have
going
forward.
So
maybe
I
can
put
that
on
the
agenda
and
we
can
do
that.
A
Media
coordination
role
and
the.