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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - June 11, 2021
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This is the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting for Friday, June 11, 2021.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/e-nable-town-hall-notes
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B
B
A
B
We're,
I
guess,
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
I'm
hoping
we'll
have
a
couple
more
join.
We
have
some
updates
in
here
from
bob
I'm
hoping
we'll
get
to
hear
from
him,
but
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
is
I'm
just
curious?
Is
one
of
you
able
to
check
easily
the
youtube
page
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
fact
live
streaming
or,
if
anybody's,
watching?
You
want
to
put
a
comment
in
there
just
to
let
us
know
that
you're
seeing
us,
I
can
do
that
now
hold
on.
C
B
Yeah
definitely
let
me
just
check
here
I'm
curious
on
the
hub,
because
I
posted
posted
the
link
to
this
meeting
and
I
should
be
able
to
see
right
there
if
it's
working
yeah
it
is,
I
just
I
just
pulled
it
up
and
it's
it's
yep,
okay,
so
yeah!
So
let's
let's
go
ahead
and
get
going
and
then
we
can.
We
will
we'll
go
through
action
items
and
then
but
yeah
we'll
give
you
some
extra
time
to
go
through
and
show
us
what
you've
got
on
the
doc's
been
so
john
ben.
B
Both
you
guys
taking
notes.
I
assume
yes,
sir.
Thank
you.
No
introductions,
okay,
so
action
items
so
ben.
Let's,
let's
set
this
one
aside
I'll,
have
you
show
us
what
you
found
for
the
for
the
documentations
we'll
come
back
to
that
in
a
moment,
john
presenting
ecosystems,
new
members,
that's
done!
I
should
have
removed
that
last
time.
I
guess.
B
B
No
problem,
I
was
the
perfect
timing.
I
was
just
getting
to
the
action
item
about
the
sizing
badge
and
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
I've
been
thinking
about
this
because
I'm
I'm
holding
things
up
because
we're
waiting
on
me
to
do
this
new
tutorial
for
virtual
fitting
infusion,
which
I
can
do
it's
just
it's
a
it's
a
very
time
consuming
thing
and
I've
been
pretty
buried.
Lately,
I'm
wondering
if
we
shouldn't
just
go
ahead
and
get
the
sizing
badge
out
there,
because
you've
already
identified
the
test
cases.
B
We've
got
sets
of
sizing
photos
to
use.
We
already
have
a
virtual
fitting
methodology.
It
just
happens
to
use
blender,
but
you
know
people
are
doing
sizing
now.
So
there's
no
reason
we
couldn't
go
ahead
and
get
the
sizing
badge
out
there
using
the
existing
methods
that
we
have
and
then
add
other
tutorials
for
fusion
and
for
on
shape
and
things
like
that
as
time
permits.
If
you're.
Okay
with
that.
B
All
right
so
then
we'll
work
on
getting
the
sizing
badge
rolled
out
using
the
the
sample
cases,
the
photos
that
bob
already
came
up
with
and
we
just
have
to
pretty
much
come
up
with
some
language,
for
you
know
what
we're
looking
for,
what
people
should
do
and
how
they
should
submit
their
suggested
sizing
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
So
maybe
we'll
have
a
separate
meeting
about
that.
B
B
B
Got
it
okay?
So
there
are
some
notes
down
here
that
we'll
talk
about
which
include
customizing
the
notifications
and
I
had
some
suggestions
there.
So
we'll
come
we'll
come
back
to
that
one,
but
yeah.
We
might
as
well
still
go
ahead
and
fix
up
this
post
too.
Just
so
we
can.
Let
people
know
how
to
do
that.
B
I
do
have
our
key
metrics
in
here
I'm
only
providing
kind
of
the
high
level
summary
here.
We
do
have
a
whole
bunch
of
other
charts
and
graphs
showing
each
of
these
things
over
time.
I
didn't
want
to
overload
us
with
all
that
stuff.
I
have
them
if
anybody
wants
them,
but
as
far
as
these
weekly
meetings,
I'm
just
going
to
be
sharing
this
kind
of
dashboard
view
here.
Just
so,
you
can
see
kind
of
our
overall
activity
levels
on
the
hub.
You
can
see
our
average
session
duration.
B
You
can
see
how
many
active
chapters
we
have
down
at
the
bottom.
You
can
see
all
of
our
help
desk
activity,
a
number
of
badges
being
issued
things
like
that,
it's
just
a
kind
of
a
general
snapshot
of
activity,
okay,
so
discussion
topics.
Let
me
insert
here
and
we
will
start
with-
let
me
just
copy
it
from
up
here.
Docs
youtube
live
integration,
we'll
have
you
go
first
ben
all
right
do.
C
Sure
that'd
be
fine
and
I'll
just
go
through
a
quick,
but
it's
basically
seeing
what
you
guys
think
is
this
a
project
that
we
want
to
explore
for
the
community
and
if
it
is,
I
can
share
it
on
the
hub.
It's
something
that
I
worked
on
two
years
ago
with
rodrigo
who
runs
the
mexico
city.
One
of
the
mexican
city
chapters
sounds.
B
C
B
E
A
C
Right
so
the
the
question
is,
you
know
here
we
have
these
weekly
meetings
along
with
other
weekly
meetings.
We
take
videos,
we
have
these
side
notes.
Do
we
use
google
docs?
Should
we
continue
using
the
workflowy
or
is
there
another
method?
So
in
2019
over
the
summer,
I
worked
on
a
project
in
mexico
city,
looking
at
how
you
can
mine
video
captions
for
collaboration
and
really
the
test
case
was
enable
it's
been
collecting
dust,
but
I
figured
I'd
propose
it
because
I
think
now
that
we're
doing
youtube
live.
C
You
know
we
end
up
with
these
long
archives,
which
we
currently
have
they're
disconnected
at
times
the
powerpoints
and
the
videos,
and
it
can
be
undefined
to
try
to
search
through
these
videos
and
sort
of
a
useful
way.
It's
I
think,
it's
great
to
keep
archives,
but
the
longer
that
they
get
the
more
it
can
be
challenging
to
figure
out
how
they're
useful
or
continue
to
be
searchable-
and
I
know
this
is
something
that
john's
really
familiar
with
from
the
beginning
of
enable.
C
B
If
you
don't
mind
me,
jumping
in
real,
quick
there
ben,
I
might
need
your
help,
because
I
I
now
know
how
to
do
the
captions
like
when
you
just
record
a
video
or
upload
a
video
it'll
just
process
in
the
background
and
the
captions
will
be
ready
after
the
fact
for
the
live
videos
like
what
we're
doing
right
now.
I
have
captions
turned
on,
but
there's
nothing.
B
C
B
C
No
problem,
but
basically
in
a
nutshell,
a
video
is
published.
It
has
automatic
captions,
which
you
know
are
even
let's
say:
75
accurate,
that's
still
pretty
good
and
they're
editable,
so
you
can
go
in
later
and
you
can
fix
it
up
if
you
want,
but
heads
or
tails
those
captions.
If
you
open
up
on
youtube
the
I
forget
transcripts,
I
think
it's
called
you
can
actually
click
on
the
text
and
it
goes
to
those
different
points
in
the
video
which
is
really
useful.
C
So
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
how
could
that
be
integrated
in
with
notes,
and
we
thought
it
would
be
useful
for
international
ngos
like
enable,
but
also
online
education
and
potentially
like
a
political
congress.
So
it's
it's
a
bigger
problem
than
just
enable,
but
so
we
did
some
testing
trying
to
bring
video
in
with
the
notes
you
know
similar
to
what
we're
doing
here,
but
at
the
bottom
have
access
to
these
interactive
video
captions
and
then
on
the
side,
basically
pulling
out
specific
information.
C
So
using
an
api
we
had
locations
that
we
had
pulled
out
on
the
side.
So
if
somebody
mentioned
I
don't
know,
this
was
just
a
test
case,
but
if
somebody
mentioned
mexico
that
would
be
saved
on
the
side
and
that
would
be
sort
of
a
reference
point
that
you
could
go
back
to
so
this
is
a
little
video
I'll
just
share
this
link.
We
don't
have
to
watch
this
now,
but
we
did
get
it
working.
C
C
You
know
france
or
turkey,
and
also
you
could
look
at
categories
that
way
you
could
have
it
cross-reference,
google,
docs
and
then
there's
ways
you
could
maybe
do
batching
with
an
entire
video
library
using
these
kinds
of
themes.
So
that
was
the
project
and
again
it
was
with
rodrigo
who's
been
involved
with
the
enable
for
a
long
time,
I'm
going
to
share
the
link.
B
I
see
your
comment,
john
and
yes,
I've
used
that
with
my
sister
who's,
hard
of
hearing
google
meet,
does
do
real-time
captions
without
any
problem.
It
works
very
smoothly.
I
don't
think
google
meet
allows
the
live
streaming.
That
zoom
does
I'd,
have
to
look
into
that,
but
we'd
then
have
to
figure
out
that
side
of
it.
If
we,
if
we
wanted
to
go
to
google
me
something
to
look
into,
I
will
check
into
that
as
see
if
that's
an
option,
but
I
I'm
not
aware
of
a
live
stream
option
there.
B
C
B
Post
in
the
youtube
comments,
yeah
the
zoom
chat,
I
don't
think
does
yeah
I
mean
I
I'm
happy
to
hear
others
thoughts.
I
will
say
my
my
impression
is
that
it
looks
very,
very
cool.
There's
there's
some
very
neat
kind
of
things
in
there.
It's.
It
feels
a
little
bit
like
overkill
to
me
for
what
we're
doing
here,
so
my
vote
would
be
to
kind
of
stick
with
what
we're
doing,
but
if
others
feel
differently,
I'm
happy
to
explore
alternatives.
B
B
It's
sort
of
a
repurposing
of
a
space
that
was
in
there
previously,
and
the
important
note
here
is
that
we
have
sort
of
a
new
leadership
there.
Vivec
has
offered
to
kind
of
step
up
and
and
try
to
get
more
activity
going
in
that
space
and,
in
fact,
he's
forming
a
work
group
with
weekly
meetings.
So
if
anybody
out
there
has
any
interest
in
the
bionic
side
of
things
anything
involving
motors
and
sensors,
linear,
actuators
and
arduino,
and
all
that
cool
stuff.
This
is
the
place
to
be
check
out
the
bionic
design
space.
B
A
B
B
A
A
He
wanted
to
see
more
of
the
process
by
which
we
assemble,
so
I
made
some
videos
myself
of
assembling
esteban's
arm.
I
also
use
some
of
the
ones
on
the
hub
and
I've
sent
him
three
or
four
videos,
so
you
know
he's
staying
engaged.
He
and
I
are
are
going
through
the
process
and
he
seems
very
happy
with
what
we
do
very
nice
on
on
esteban's
arm.
A
A
C
A
That's
fine,
you
know
my
only
fear.
To
be
honest
is
I
I
printed
this
in
patchy,
but
you
know
the
the
various
joints
and
everything
are
not.
I
mean
they're
patchy,
but
if
he's
going
to
use
this
for
for
lifting
a
lot
of
weight
or
wear
and
tear
it's
ultimately
going
to
come
apart,
I'm
afraid
so
we'll
just
have
to
see
how
it
fares.
B
Yeah
yeah
pet
g
is
definitely
not
unbreakable,
it's
stronger
for
sure
than
pla,
but
I
was
just
doing
some
testing
on
the
the
new
hand
that
we're
designing
and
one
of
the
pieces
broke
during
testing.
So
it's
it's
still
something
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
and
how
we
design
so
and
then
and
then
there
were
some
notes
here
about
notifications
that
I
wanted
to
touch
on,
because
this
is
something
we've
been
talking
about,
and
there
was
a
suggestion
that
maybe
we
include
when
we
get
email
notifications
from
the
hub.
B
Maybe
we
can
include
in
there.
You
know
click
here
to
tune
your
notifications,
and
I
like
that
idea.
So
I
went
and
looked
into
it
and
found
that
yes,
we
do
indeed
have
a
direct
link
that
we
can
tie
to
for
the
notification
configuration
page
and
another
link
to
the
page
where
you
can
configure
your
email
summaries.
So
we
could
certainly
link
directly
to
both
of
those
places
if
we
have
the
ability
to
customize
those
emails
that
go
out,
which
I
assume
we
do.
But
I
got
to
talk
to
masby
about
that.
B
So
we'll
check
with
him
in
our
next
tuesday
meeting
and
assuming
we
can
do
that.
Then
yeah
we'll
go
ahead
and
include
this
as
a
little
footer
in
all
the
emails
that
go
out
so
that
everybody
has
it
right
there
in
the
email.
They
can
just
click
if
they
want
to
reduce
the
number
of
emails
or
notifications
they're
getting
so
I
thought
that
was
a
really
good
idea,
good
great
okay.
Moving
on
then
I
put
a
note
in
here
about
cad
tools.
B
We've
had
a
number
of
different
discussion
threads
going
on
this
lately,
fusion
360.
alexander
has
offered
to
do
a
tutorial
for
beginners
and
there's
been
some
discussion
in
the
hub.
So
I
linked
to
that
here
about
you
know
how
we
would
approach
that
and
what
should
be
covered
and
you
know,
should
we
be
doing
parametric,
etc.
So
I
know
I
think
that
would
be
tremendously
valuable.
Anybody
have
thoughts
on
this
or
alexander.
Do
you
have
anything
you'd
like
to
discuss?
While
we
have
the
opportunity.
A
B
But
in
terms
of
a
tutorial
just
showing
people
how
to
do
things,
it
would
be
nice
if
we're
showing
them
best
practices.
Now,
fusion
360
is
a
quite
a
tool,
as
you
know.
Well,
alexander,
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
that
we're
going
to
get
a
really
useful
tutorial
done
in
an
hour
I
mean,
I
think
this
is
more
likely
to
be
kind
of
a
series.
Wouldn't
you
think,
as
far
as
I've
tried
to
map
out.
B
D
B
Yeah,
let's,
let's
keep
the
discussion
going
on
the
hub
and
get
further
input
from
people
on
what
they'd
like
to
see
but
absolutely
go
for
it.
Just
you
know,
schedule
a
date,
I'm
happy
to
help
you
if
you
need
get
things
set
up,
if
you
want
to
do
the
whole
zoom
live
streaming
thing
whatever.
Just
let
me
know
how
I
can
help.
C
I
added
a
little
to
the
hub
post
about.
Maybe,
if
you
wanted
to
do
your
presentation
for
the
focus
follow-up
workshop,
we
have
it
scheduled
already
for
june
25th
at
1pm.
We
don't
have
a
topic
that
we've
picked
and
it
seems
like
there's
a
ton
of
interest
in
the
workshop
that
you're
talking
about.
So
that
could
be
something
to
consider
if
that's
not
too
far
away
or
too
close.
C
B
C
A
B
C
Great,
and
we
can
do
you
know,
decide
if
how
you
want
to
do
it,
do
you
want
to
do
it
through
zoom
or
youtube
live,
and
if
you
have
time
to
sort
of
schedule
out
a
series
we
could
have
that
to
share,
and-
and
you
know
I
don't
know,
if
that's
going
to
be
a
part
of
you
know
the
bionic
collaboration
or
if
you
want
to
have
a
space
specifically
for
yeah
it.
Wouldn't
it
wouldn't
be
bionic,
because.
B
C
B
C
B
No
problem,
we
were
just
talking
about
that
space.
We're
discussing
on
the
hub,
enable
device,
customization
is
so
we're
just
thinking.
Does
it
make
sense
to
have
a
space?
That's
just
all
about
cad
in
general,
as
opposed
to
having
it
under
device
is
device
customization
different
than
like
a
cad
space
or
those
go
together.
I'm
I'm
on
the
fence.
B
E
B
B
Next
yeah
so
anyway,
I
I'm
in
favor
of
the
idea
of
setting
up
a
new
space
for
cad
discussions.
That
would
be
a
great
place
to
put
alexander's
tutorials
it'd,
be
a
great
place
to
you
know,
talk
about
these
different
platforms,
so
maybe
I'll
go
ahead
and
set
something
up
and
I'll
just
make
you
a
moderator
of
that
space
board
and
we
can
see
how.
E
B
B
Okay,
so
then
yeah,
let's
talk
on
shape
a
little
bit,
because
I
I
this
is
you
know
something
that
I
looked
at
a
long
time
back
and
then
moved
away
from
it,
but
ward
brought
it
back
to
our
attention
and
it's
really
compelling
I.
I
agree.
It's
a
lot.
There's
a
lot,
that's
worth
sort
of
looking
at
as
a
tool
for
the
community.
It's
completely
free.
The
only
limitation
with
the
free
version
is
that
you
can't
save
private
designs.
B
Anything
you
save
is
public,
which
for
us
seems
like
it's
no
big
deal
right,
I
mean
everything
we
do
is
open
source.
So
we
have
free
access
to
a
fully
functional
cad
platform
that
works
across
every
platform.
It's
completely
browser-based,
so
you
can
use
it
on
even
a
chromebook
anything
with
a
browser
but
more
interesting.
It's
got
an
app
for
you,
know,
ios
and,
and
I
believe
android,
so
you
can
even
use
it
like.
I
use
it
on
an
ipad
with
an
apple
pencil
and
it
works
great.
It's
a
very
powerful
cad
tool.
B
B
B
A
B
C
B
E
B
And
I
have
to
say
what
I'm
finding
attractive
about
this
is
you
know,
fusion
360
is
also
kind
of
cloud-based,
but
it's
hybrid
and
it
mean
man.
It
really
brings
your
computer
to
its
knees
if
you're
working
on
heavy
stuff,
this
is
truly
cloud-based.
All
the
processing
is
happening
in
the
cloud
on
the
server,
which
means
it
doesn't
bring
your
computer
to
its
knees.
E
Yep,
so
so
here's
the
interesting
thing
is
when
you
start
a
project.
These
are
all
the
you
can.
You
can
create
all
the
different
parts
down
here,
so
you
can
see.
I
got
the
pins
and
then
everything
it
works
like
a
standard
parametric
cad
system
which
is
really
nice,
but
here's
here's
like
pin
a
and
then
what
I
did
is
I
created
an
assembly
over
here
as
a
tab
and
here's
some
of
the
parts
I
imported
so
like
like
this
pin
a.
E
B
E
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
absolutely
the
other
thing
too
is
what's
interesting.
There's
a,
I
believe,
there's
a
there's,
a
3d
printing
plug-in
too
that
we
can.
We
can
put
into
this
there's
an
app
store
right
here.
If
you
look
at
that
and
I
believe,
there's
a
let
me
just
take
a
quick
look
see
how
quick
it
comes
up.
B
B
E
B
B
E
E
B
E
E
B
E
E
E
E
E
B
E
E
B
B
E
E
B
E
B
For
onshape,
yes,
there's
they
they
in
fact
themselves
have
a
great
tutorial
library
on
their
site.
Just
it's
a
whole
series.
You
kind
of
go
through
from
start
to
finish
and
they'll
walk
you
through
everything,
starting
with
just
the
interface
then
going
through
all
the
different
functions.
It's
a
really
actually,
it's
a
nice
way
to
learn
cad.
E
Yeah,
here's
one
of
the
yeah.
This
is
one
of
the
finger
joints
I'm
working
on
now.
I
think
I
think
part
of
it
might
be
my
issue
because,
I'm
you
know
I've
done
mechanical
engineering,
but
getting
all
those.
I
was
looking
at
some
of
your
parts
getting
all
those
fancy
curves
and
everything
put
in
like
those
organic
curves.
E
B
B
C
E
A
E
D
A
E
B
B
B
E
B
B
We'll
look
into
it
we'll
report
back
next
week
for
now
that
gives
our
community
an
opportunity
to
go
ahead
and
check
out
on
shape,
see
what
you
think
share
your
feedback.
Let
us
know
what
you
think
and
then
we'll
revisit
it
next
week
and
talk
about
sculpting
or
surface
modeling
options
and
go
from
that.
Your.
A
A
B
What
that's
what
we're
looking
at?
Well,
you
can
definitely
model.
I
mean
everything
that
he's
doing
here
is
modeled
in
on
shape,
but
that's
solid
body
modeling
from
primitives,
whether
or
not
we
can
do
organic
kind
of
sculpting
and
surface
modeling.
That's
what
we
have
to
look
into
and
we'll
we'll
report
back
next
week
on
that.
E
E
B
E
B
E
B
E
B
B
That
one
there
yep
okay,
very
good.
Thank
you
or
we'll
come
back
to
that
next
week.
All
right
so
next
topic
here
is
volunteers
and
chapters
are
finding
the
hub,
overwhelming
and
overly
complex.
So
this
is
an
ongoing
topic
of
discussion
and
I
actually
think
first
of
all,
this
ties
in
with
the
previous
topic
that
we
talked
about
of
managing
your
notifications.
So
I
think
we
can
help
a
little
bit
by
making
it
easier
for
people
to
get
to
those
pages
where
you
can
fine-tune
your
notifications
since
we'll
follow
up
on
that.
B
B
I
wanted
to
talk
about
whether
it
might
you
know
when
we
think
about
the
complexity
and
how
people
get
overwhelmed
in
the
hub.
Obviously,
one
way
of
dealing
with
that
is
cleaning
things
up.
You
know
fixing
the
hub
making
it
easier
to
navigate,
making
it
easier
to
find
what
you
need
and
we're
working
on
that.
But
in
the
meantime
it
seems
to
me
that
if
we
had
people
that
were
in
this
concierge
role
of
kind
of
helping
people
find
their
way
as
they're
getting
onboarded.
B
C
Yeah,
I
was
gonna
say
it
came
up
in
previous
discussions:
the
idea
of
using
the
hub
sort
of
modeled
after
the
original
google
plus
community
and
trying
to
think
about
some
of
these.
These
key
topic
areas
like
introductions
and
education
as
as
having
partner
spaces
and
then
how
we
could
sort
of
set
up
that
to
continue
some
of
these.
C
These
conversations,
I
think
it
involves
you
know,
probably
sitting
down
with
with
masby
the
next
time
we
get
an
opportunity
for
that
and
and
looking
at
how
to
best
use
spaces
and
topics,
but
if
we
can,
if
there's
a
way
to
do
that,
that
would
make
a
big
difference.
I
think
in
terms
of
the
complexity,
but
it
does
have
to
sort
of
feed
back
into
a
central
dashboard
or
some
place
to
navigate.
B
C
D
D
Ben
is
often
right
there
to
answer
the
question.
Other
people
are
as
well
and
if
it's
related
to
masby's
development
work,
he
seems
to
be
well
plugged
in
so
in
a
sense,
I
think
we
may
have
the
best
kind
of
crowd-sourced
concierge
right
now,
but
obviously
I
don't.
I
think
it
does
not
address
the
feeling
of
the
complexity
of
the
environment.
C
There
was
an
a
con,
a
concept
that
was
shared
last
week
or
the
week
before,
about
having
sort
of
like
a
simplified,
yes
dashboard
and
then
having
like
you
know
it
advanced
like.
If
you
could
toggle
on
and
off,
you
could
basically
see
here's.
You
know
all
of
the
the
options
for
how
to
navigate
or
if
you're,
a
beginner
you
just
boil
it
right
down
to
you
know
just
have
several
things
that
could
be
something
again
to
look
into.
C
You
know
the
visual
options
but
yeah
we,
you
know
just
like
what
john
said,
I
think
having
everybody
in
the
forum
for
right
now
does
seem
like
that's
where
people
start
out
and
then
more
advanced
topics
do
tend
to
grow
into
new
spaces.
Like
the
bionics
page,
you
know
how
to
best
use
those
spaces
is
another
topic
you
know
again.
I
mentioned
the
introductions.
Maybe
that
belongs
in
that
new
member
space
and
not
in
the
main
forum
sort
of
clogging
up
the
the
feed
twice
a
week.
So.
D
I
do
think
it's
a
it's
a
well-defined
and
worthy
goal
to
think
about
what
a
newbie
environment
would
look
like
and
how
we
could
put
it
in
place
while
leaving
the
you
know
the
full
functionality
available
to
those
who
want
to
use
it.
I
suspect
that
masuri's
going
to
be
a
key
player
there
and
he's
been
scarce
lately.
D
B
Well,
I
want
to
remind
us
that
we
do
have
sitting
there
unused
right
now,
a
dashboard
that
isabella
put
together,
that
we
could
pretty
easily
kind
of
pull
from,
and
you
know
maybe
move
that
into
our
new
members
space
and
and
do
some
tweaking
on
it.
But
I
think
we
could
use
that
to
pretty
easily
build
the
dashboard,
maybe
both
dashboards,
that
we're
talking
about.
I
don't
know,
but
just
the
thought
of
using
that
as
a
starting
point.
A
A
She
interviewed
it
was
a
20
people
x,
number
of
people
and
got
this
feedback.
I
believe,
and
that's
very
worthy-
it's
not
clear
in
my
mind
yet
where
the
problem
exactly
resides,
or
maybe
it
resides
in
a
number
of
places.
Is
this
somebody
for
the
first
time
coming
to
the
hub
a
newbie?
Is
this
an
experienced
person
who
just
doesn't
have
the
time
to
and
and
finds
the
hub
intimidating
before
we
rush
to
a
solution?
I
guess
the
question
is:
where
is
the
problem
and
what
is
the
magnitude
of
the
problem?
E
I,
like
you,
said
when
you
first
log
in
everything,
is
everything
is
broken
down
into
spaces,
so
once
I
I
started
poking
around,
I
found
all
the
spaces
I
wanted
to
apply
to
and
then
that's
I
got
that
set
up,
but
it's
yeah.
It's
a
matter
of.
I
don't
know
I
I
didn't
really
find
it
that
difficult
I
mean
it
looks
like
when
you
first
log
in
it
does
look
a
little
overwhelming
with
all
the
with
all
the
tabs.
You
have
up
top
you.
B
E
C
B
C
C
I
did
just
check
and
there's
people
that
do
post
in
the
new
member
space
and
they
don't
get
as
much
attention
because
it's
you
know
the
forum
sort
of
has
got
the
most
the
momentum,
but
that
might
be
a
way
to
do
it.
We
might
be
able
to
set
up
this
information,
this
sort
of
model
that
isabella
came
up
with.
B
Yeah
because
you've
already
got
a
pin
post
there,
and
I
I
don't
think
we
need
all
of
this,
but
she's
got
it
broken
down
by
like
this
first
one
here
information,
everybody
needs
start
here:
how
to
use
the
hub,
enable
governance,
legal
and
funding
web
central
email.
Now
we
might
want
to
change
those
topics
that
you
know.
Some
of
that
might
need
to
be
adjusted,
but
just
the
idea
of
here
are
the
essentials
that
you
need
to
get
started.
D
You
know
I
did
want
to
mention
that
so.
First
of
all,
I
do
think
that
we
and
I've
been
working
working
on
doing
this,
but
we
do
need
to
actually
deploy
a
version
of
the
system.
Isabella
has
prototype
now
we're
going
to
have
a
a
brandeis
intern
in
the
fall
in
all
probability,
one
of
whose
specific
missions
is
to
do
that
to
deploy
and
maintain
the
system
that
isabella
has
started.
D
However,
I
did
want
to
float
one
other
one.
Other
scenario,
which
is,
I
could
imagine,
basically
a
curriculum,
a
series
of
exercises,
perhaps
each
with
a
badge
that
walks
people
through
first
steps,
second
steps
and
so
on
right.
So
the
first
thing
is
to
introduce
yourself.
Congratulations.
You've
introduced
yourself.
The
next
thing
is
to
explore
spaces
and
pick
two
that
you're
interested
in
and.
B
I
think
you're,
I
think,
you're
right
john,
because
right
now,
if
we
just
look
at
what
we're
giving
people,
our
main
resource
right
now
is
how
to
get
started
as
an
enabled
volunteer
and
it's
a
long
wiki
with
a
lot
of
text.
Okay,
so
you're
right,
I
think
if
we,
if
we
translated
this
into
something
more
visual
step-by-step,
you
know
like
almost
like
an
instructable.
D
B
Yeah
I
mean
that
could
even
be
a
category
of
badges.
You
know
there
could
be
a
badge
for
step,
one
step,
two
step,
three
step:
four
and
once
you've
completed
x
number
of
steps
you
get
a
badge
for
having
completed
the
onboarding
process,
whatever
that
might
be,
but
we
could
pull
it
together
that
way.
B
C
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
tangent,
but
I'm
just
curious.
This
is
probably
going
to
be
more
directed
to
masby,
but
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way,
so
we
have
it
set
up
where,
if
you
get
there's,
there's
badges
that
are
automatically
that's
right
sort
of
distributed.
So
if
you
get
your
phoenix
hand
badge
you
automatically
get
just
the
general
badge,
that's
I,
you
know
finished
a
device,
and
that
is
how
he
does
his
sort
of
searching
and
on
who
has
credentials
and
who
doesn't?
B
And
well
part
of
it
could
be
space
membership,
that's
a
good
idea,
but
some
of
the
other
things.
If
you
look
through
the
getting
started
guide
here,
we
could
automate
some
of
these.
Like
familiarize
yourself
with
a
code
of
conduct,
we
already
have
a
form
that
we
asked
them
to
fill
out
to
indicate
their
acceptance,
so
we
could
probably
tie
into
that
to
say
as
soon
as
they
submit
this
form.
We
issue
this
badge.
You
know
introducing
yourself
in
you
know
as
a
new
member.
B
A
B
You
know
what
what
you're
making
me
think
of
is
we
don't
need
a
badge
for
each
of
the
step
if
we
have
a
way
of
tracking
that
so
as
long
as
the
system
can
track
that,
somehow
that
step
one
has
been
done
step
two
has
been
done.
Step
three
has
been
done.
We
could
just
issue
one
badge
when
the
whole
process
is
complete,
you
have
successfully
completed
the
entire.
You
know
onboarding
process,
but
we'd
have
to
figure
out
how
to
track
behind
the
scenes.
B
C
B
Not
only
not
only
that
this
whole
guide
here
about
getting
started
as
a
volunteer
is
for
one
path:
that's
getting
started
as
a
maker,
but,
like
ben
says,
there's
you
know
some
people
don't
want
to
be
a
maker.
They
might
want
to
be
organizing
events
or
helping
you
know
with
with
documentation
or
who
knows
what
so
yeah
we
need
to
think
about.
C
B
C
His
hand-
but
you
know
just
to
add
to
what
he
said
before
I
do
think
you
know
badges-
could
be
that
sort
of
magical
way
of
giving
people
a
lot
of
different
options.
But
you
know
it
would
be.
How
do
you
sort
of
onboard
people
in
different
directions
with
the
badges,
and
I
do
think
that
even
just
using
what
we
already
have
could
be
something
exciting.
B
D
Just
going
to
borrow
the
laptop
everything
is
just
to
share
a
way
of
thinking
about
this.
It
it's
not
necessarily
possible,
but
one
can
imagine
a
branching
structure
that
starts
with
step
one
and
then
branches
out
in
various
directions.
So
just
imagine
that
tree
and
then
people
are
welcome.
You
know:
they're
they're,
gonna
start
at
the
trunk
and
they're
gonna
move
out
to
various
branches.
If
we
had
a
way
of
letting
them
leave
their
traces
on
those
branches,
we'd
see
what
people
are
doing,
they
would
be
able
to
show
their
progress
and
so
on.
D
That's
not
necessarily
badges
just
a
way
of
tracking
their
progress
within
a
mapped
progressively
complex
path.
Now
it's
not
clear
that
the
hub
is
conducive
to
that,
but
I
suspect
it
is,
but
we
we
should
perhaps
think
about
that
think
about
how
to
just
architect
pathways
which
can
be
branching
and
can
be
overlapping
but
become
a
map
that
people
can
use
to
progress,
not
just
to
find
where
they
are
not
just
to
exactly
so.
B
C
B
D
B
So
one
possibility
would
be
for
somebody
to
look
at
what
she's
built
here.
Look
at
all
these
different
sort
of
categories
that
she
has
and
look
at
trying
to
map
that
into
a
kind
of
a
workflow
diagram
and
look
at
which
one
would
link
to
which
and
and
then
we
could
from
that
diagram.
We
could
try
to
reorganize
these
pages
and
put
them
into
that
format.
That's
one
possibility.
D
B
Well,
we're
not
going
to
solve
it
today,
but
we
are
at
the
top
of
the
hour
we
should
wrap
up.
I
want
to
continue
that
topic
of
discussion
going
it's
something
that
you
know
is
going
to
take
time
to
figure
out,
but
you
know,
let's
just
let's
just
keep
exploring
ideas
for
now.
Let's
see
that
was
on
boarding
so
yeah.
I
think
I
think
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
wrap.
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
that
you
would
like
to
bring
up
for
discussion
before
we
close
this
week?.