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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting, November 13, 2020
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, November 13, 2020.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/2Us79f7
B
A
All
right,
let's
take
a
look
at
these
action
items.
First,
I
guess
bob.
I
assume
you're
still
looking
for
somebody
to
take
on
a
walk
through
through
the
ewc.
A
Yeah
a
little
slower
than
usual,
that's
fine,
keep
looking.
We
did
roll
out
a
fix
for
ewc,
so
we
did
some
updates
on
that
new
home
page,
very
good,
and
it's
it's
looking
a
little
better.
Now
we
still
have
have
work
to
do,
but
it's
it's
moving
along
next.
One
here
is
for.
D
What
was
that?
What
was
what
we,
what
what
type
of
person
would
you
be
after
so
just
someone
who's
new
to
the
who's
new
to
the
platform.
A
Well,
yeah,
we
were
looking
to
take
somebody
on
a
what
we're
calling
a
video
concierge
session,
where
we
would
basically
do
a
video
meeting
with
them
and
walk
them
through
the
process
of
setting
up
their
ewc
accounts
and
requesting
a
device
we
were.
We
were
hoping
it
would
be
somebody
in
the
u.s
just
because
of
the
time
zone,
differences.
A
Yeah
we
just
haven't
come
across
anybody
in
a
while.
D
No
okay!
Well
I
mean
there
might
be
someone
yeah.
You
could
do
it
sort
of
this
time,
this
sort
of
time
who
yeah
well,
if
there's
someone
yeah
yeah.
D
D
A
Okay,
let
us
know
if
you
have
anyone,
let's
see
john
arrange
orientation
with
jeremy
and
martin
okay,
that's.
I
think
you
just
put
that
in
there.
B
A
A
I
yeah
I
have
access.
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
what's
in
there,
so
yeah
we'll
need
to
walk
through
that
together,
and
we
would
need
to
figure
out
how
to
if
I
mean
in
order
for
me
to
clean
things
up,
I
would
need
access
to
all
of
the
accounts.
Feeding
into
that
the
different
you
know,
bank
feeds
and
things
like
that,
so
that
I
can
get
at
reconciliation
statements
and
things
of
that
nature,
so
we'll
have
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
A
Okay
anyway.
So
that's
a
work
in
progress,
we're
talking
about
the
quickbooks
for
the
enable
fund
and
various
you
know
for
the
rochester
enable
and
that
kind
of
stuff
bob
continue
reaching
out
to
shipping
carriers
to
investigate
enable
shipping
discounts.
No
updates
there.
B
A
All
right
john
review
conference
schedules
to
identify
potential
partners
in
the
prosthetics
community,
you're
saying
no
imminent
conferences.
You
want
to
explain
these
notes.
B
Yes,
but
I
was
reminded
of
the
existence
of
two
organizations
amputee
coalition
and
adaptively
abled
amputees.org,
both
of
which
are
doing
good
work
and
I've
got
online
support
group
meetings,
which
I
think
we
should
try
to
infiltrate
at
some
point
just
to
get
a
feel
for
what
they
do.
And
it
could
be
that
the
amputee
organizations
are
the
middle
ground
between
the.
B
A
Okay,
all
right,
and
then
I
was
tasked
with
setting
up
a
google
form
for
simplified
onboarding.
I
have
not
gotten
to
that
yet,
but
I
think
that's
still
worth
exploring
ben
reach
out
to
teachers,
pay
teachers
to
ask
about
an
api
for
their
platform.
E
Yeah,
I
haven't
heard
back
yet
specifically
about
their
api,
so
that's
still
in
process.
A
Okay,
all
right,
moving
right
along
then
we
were
going
to
have
a
presentation
today
from
safe,
but
she
emailed
me
to
say
that
she
had
a
conflict
that
came
up
and
asked
to
move
her
presentation
to
the
20th
so
next
week
we'll
have
that
ed.
Since
we
have
you
here,
we
were
hoping
at
some
point
to
have
you
give
us
a
presentation
about
sort
of
what
you
have
found
with
regards
to
eu
regulations
and
how
you're
navigating
those
waters
is.
C
D
So
so
at
the
moment
we
we
are
we're
we're
going
through
some
an
internal
risk
review
again
off
the
back
of
the
work
that
we,
the
we've
done,
a
lot
of
work
based
on
covid
with
the
nhs
in
the
in
the
uk
and
so
they're,
reassessing
the
risk
around
anything
that
we're
doing
in
the
kind
of
medical
space.
But
but
I
think
to
be
honest,
we
could
still.
D
I
don't
think
that
so
so
that's
meant
we've
paused
on
sending
out
devices,
but
I
don't
think
that
actually
would
preclude
us
having
the
conversation
about
this.
So
let
me
just
email
yeah.
Let
me
just
email
peter
david.
I
did
that
david's.
Just
actually
asked
for
a
summary
of
everything
that
we've
learned,
and
so
I
feel
if
I
email
him
saying
hey,
could
we
do
a
talk
he's
going
to
say
you
do
this
summary
then,
but
I'll?
Do
it
I'll?
Do
it?
D
Okay,
I'll
tell
you
I'll
take
that
here,
but
yeah
it
would
be
good
to
set.
It
it'd
be
good
to
set
a
date
for
that
like
per
day
in
the
diary
now,
so
that
we
can
just
so
that
it's
there
as
a
deadline,
because
yeah
otherwise,
so
is
there.
C
D
A
B
A
E
D
Have
thanksgiving
so
yeah,
okay
cool,
so
so
we
could
do
it.
Let's
go
for
the
27th,
then,
and
if
we
can't
do
that,
if
there's
something
that
blocks
peter
or
david
from
attending
on
the
27th,
then
we
can
go
for
the
11.
okay.
D
Yeah
and
I
I
just
wondered
whether
that
might
also
be
a
good
opportunity
to
introduce
the
3d
crowd
people
to
to
invite
them
on
to
the
call
as
well,
so
the
people
from
3d
crowd
who
are
doing
it.
So
I
mean
it'd,
be
good
it'd,
be
a
good
opportunity
for
them
to
because
they
actually
still
haven't
met
the
whole
of
not
all
of
them
have
met
our
internal
team
here
so
yeah
I'll
I'll
I'll.
Try
and
do
that
as
a
as
an
all-in-one
so
yeah.
A
But
yeah
cool
sounds
good,
go
ahead
and
move
along
just
let
me
know
if
that
changes
yep
all
right,
so
we've
got
all
of
our
usual
statistics
and
charts
and
everything
on
the
next
several
pages
I'll.
Let
you
guys
review
those
for
yourselves.
A
A
I
did
not
check
lumio
this
morning,
but
last
I
saw
we
have
no
active
discussions
or
proposals.
Is
that
still
the
case
yeah?
I
see
john
shaking
his
head,
so
I
don't
think
we
have
anything
right
now
on
lumio
to
discuss
things
with
the
chapter
wishbone
project
for
moving
along
any
updates
there
ben.
E
We
did
have
a
demo
from
benevidi,
which
was
interesting.
I
think
it
brought
up
some
really
interesting
points.
They're,
probably
not
going
to
be
the
silver
bullet
for
us,
but
there's
some
ways
that
we
might
be
able
to
use
paypal
or
there's
this
other
cyber
grants,
platform
which
looks
promising.
So
I've
scheduled
a
demo
with
them.
We
did
set
up
an
email
account
for
chapter
sharing
at
e-nable.org.
E
A
paypal
account
john's,
been
in
process,
setting
up
how
the
the
accounting
will
work
and
we
met
with
terry.
So
things
are
moving.
You
know
it's
it's.
The
infrastructure
side
of
things
are
taking
some
time,
but
I'm
still
really
optimistic
that
this
project
is
got
a
lot
of
potential
for
us.
B
Okay,
the
the
meeting
so
benevolent
is
not
a
good
match
for
chapter
share,
but
they
are
one
of
the
leading
utilities
for
fortune
500
companies
that
do
donation
matching
for
their
employees,
which
bob
is
something
I
actually
think
we
should
look
into.
A
B
E
Right
paypal
also
has
a
which
seems
like
that.
Maybe
the
first
step,
because
we
already
have
used
paypal,
you
know
with
enabling
a
feature
and
those
sort
of
things
we.
E
Enable
or
actually
it'll
be
enable
limited.
We
can
register
the
charity
through
paypal
and
have
it
as
one
of
their
approved
charities,
and
then
it
in
a
similar
way
is
part
of
their
rolodex
to
you
know
for
donations
this
time
of
year.
So
that's
in
process
already,
but
some
of
these
other
organizations
like
benevity,
have
a
larger
collection
of
nike
and
coca-cola
and
apple
and
ibm
and
microsoft.
E
A
Okay,
all
right
so
anyway,
things
are
moving
along
nicely.
It
sounds
like
ewc
improvement.
B
A
A
Okay,
so
there's
a
sponsorship
offer
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
This
came
into
general
and
creality.
Well,
I
actually,
oddly
enough,
I
just
had
a
call
with
last
night
because
they're
14
hours
ahead
of
us,
though
it
was
it
was
evening
here,
but
we
we
had
a
call
with
them
because
we're
looking
at
bringing
them
on
through
3d
universe,
but
this
is
entirely
separate
from
that.
They,
they
also
reached
out
to
jen
owen,
to
say:
hey,
we
love
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
at
enable.
A
Can
we
support
you,
you
know
in
the
past
I
we've
been
a
little
bit
hesitant
when
unknown.
You
know
printer
companies
come
along
and
offer
printers
because
they
can
sometimes
be
more
trouble
than
they're
worth.
I
don't
think
that's
the
case
with
creality
I'm
they're
they're.
Certainly
you
know
they're
they're.
How
do
I
describe
it
kind
of
hands-on
printers
they?
They
can
take
a
little
tinkering
but
they're
good
machines,
they're
very
popular.
A
I
I'm
thinking
that
it
might
be
good
to
take
them
up
on
their
offer
and
maybe
get
some
free
printers
into
the
hands
of
some
of
these
chapters
that
have
been
looking
for
printers
some
something
along
those
lines.
So
I
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
discussion
just
because
I
want
us
to
kind
of
think
about
how
do
we
go
back
to
them?
A
Obviously,
their
interest
is
to
get
some
pr
exposure.
They
want
to
be
on
our
page
of
sponsors.
Things
like
that.
So
you
know
the
question
is
what
what
do
we
ask
for
from
them
to
make
that
worthwhile?
D
They're,
definitely
I
mean
they're,
really
they
were
well
regarded
within
the
3d
crowd
community
and
I
mean
I'd
say
they
were
probably
the
most
popular
popular
printer
and
yeah.
That
was
a
sample
of
like
8
000
people.
So
it
was
a
good
wide
sample.
A
Yeah,
in
fact,
they
they
shared
us.
They
shared
with
us
on
last
night's,
call
that
you
know
they
sell
their
printers
through
amazon
of
every
of
every
100
printers
that
get
sold
of
any
brand
of
any
brand
of
3d
printer
of
every
100
machines
that
get
sold
on
amazon.
52
of
them
are
reality,
so
they
are
no
part
of
the
markets.
There.
D
That's
incredible,
I
guess
what
I
was
going
to
say
was.
D
I
think,
if
we,
I
don't
know
what
other
people
feel,
but
I
I
mean
I
feel
going
in
and
asking
for
donations
to
the
enable
fund,
rather
than
rather
than
printers
just
because
I
think
if
you
ask
for
printers,
then
yeah
there's
the
coordination
about
sending
them
out
and
everything
like
that,
and
I
mean
obviously
I
think
that
you
know,
because
potentially
you
could
say
the
the
service
that
they
would
be
offering
would
be
in
the
form
of
kind
of
you.
A
D
Enhanced
support
for
enable
members,
in
terms
of
them
being
able
to
you,
know,
access
people
who
are
printing,
that
sort
of
stuff
or
specific
guides,
or
something
like
that
so
rather
than
hardware,
which
is
sort
of
quite
finite.
In
terms
of
that,
I
feel
like
going
after
fun.
Donations
might
be
a
good
good.
I
mean
at
least
starting
with
that,
because
they
might
say
no,
but
it
would.
A
Have
you
could
ask
them
about
it?
I
don't
know
if
if
they
would
be
open
to
a
monetary
donation,
obviously
there's
some
benefit
to
them
to
offer
hardware,
because
they
already
have
a
huge
inventory.
They
probably
have
access
and
and
making
an
in-kind
donation
like
that,
I
think,
is
more
cost
effective
for
them,
but
it
doesn't
mean
we
can't
ask
anyone
else.
B
E
I
was
just
gonna
piggyback
off
of
what
ed
was
saying.
I
think
the
case
for
shipping.
It
would
be
wonderful
if
there
was
some
financial
support
as
well
as
printers
you
know,
if,
if
they
can
support,
if
they
can
put
money
into
the
kitty
for
this
wishbone
project,
if
we
have
a
bunch
of
printers
that
are
available,
some
of
their
funds
could
support
the
shipping
that
could
be
sort
of
an
interesting.
E
Each
individual
process
could
be
something
to
track
and
stories
that
they
could
tell.
A
E
B
E
B
Email
I
sent
to
karen
and
martin
with
regard
to
this
discussion.
A
few
thoughts
one
is:
they
do
have
a
global
fulfillment
network.
They
ship
heavy
boxes
all
over
the
world.
B
And
you
know
if
we
found
a
way
to
piggyback
on
that
for
delivery
of
printed
devices
all
over
the
world.
That
would
be
huge
yeah.
I
mean
just
as
an
example
of
a
thought.
B
A
It
to
them-
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
how
I
don't
know
how
special
their
shipping
rates
are
going
to
be
it's
something
I
could
ask
about,
but
I
mean
that's
again,
that's
kind
of
what
we
were
talking
about.
They
don't
do
a
lot
of
overseas
shipping
of
individual
printers.
They
have
resellers
like
us
that
would
buy
a
whole
bunch
of
pinners,
they
ship
them
by
sea
and
we
would
stock
them
and
we're
the
ones
shipping
them
out
to
people.
So
I
don't
know
that
creality
is
you
know
shipping
their
printers
all
over
the
world?
A
B
B
A
There's
I'll
just
point
out:
there
is
an
added
challenge
here
of
a
language
barrier.
It's
it's
kind
of.
B
A
B
The
package-
I
would
so
let
me
just
say
first
of
all,
I'm
sure
that
what
one
of
their
motivations
is
to
be
able
to
say
this,
the
enabled
community
is
using
reality
printers
and
so
a
pure
money.
Monetary
donation
would
be
off-putting.
I
think,
for
example,
if
they
were,
they
might
be
interested.
For
example,
in
saying
we
will
donate
one
printer
a
month
or
six
printers
a
year
to
the
chapter
share
project
they
might
want
to
do
it
in
the
form
of
a.
B
What
do
we
call
it
a
raffle
right,
so
they
get
leads
but
they're,
also
giving
them
away
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
coupling
that,
with
a
monetary
you
know
with
a
platinum
corporate
partnership
package
might
be
something
they
could
wrap
their
heads
around.
E
I
do
think
if
we
can
come
up
with
an
extended
relationship
instead
of
saying
you
know,
here's
a
number
of
printers
that
we
could
use
and
then
be
stuck
with
the
shipping
and
the
logistics
of
it
bob's
recent
dora
success
extended
over
three
years
is
really,
I
think,
a
huge
step
forward
for
just
being
able
to
plan
longer
term
as
a
volunteer
community.
So
in
the
same
way,
at
john's
point
is
great.
E
You
know
if
we
can
look
at
an
extended
relationship
involving
chapters
that
can
be
using
or
or
asking
for
these,
these
printers
in
exchange
for
reporting,
I
mean,
basically,
if
part
of
getting
a
free
printer
is
also
following
up
on
their
cases
and
their
projects.
That
would
really
be
a
huge
win
for
us,
but
the
shipping
which.
E
Up
first,
I
think
is
really
something
to
stew
on,
because
we
haven't
really
quite
figured
that
out,
even
just
for
devices,
let
alone
printers.
A
D
Something
that
some
of
the
so
some
of
the
some
of
the
organizations
that
were
looking
to
get
involved
with
3d
crowd.
I
mean
the
way
that
they
did
the
they
did
it
with
kind
of
a
community
discount
for
people
who
were
yeah.
So
you
people
who
could
say
I
you
are
printing
visors.
They
would
you
know,
in
that
case
visas
they
would
then
get
a
discount
that
was
for
filament,
but
I
think
there
were
also
discounts
offered
for
printers
as
well,
because
then
that
would
tick
the
box.
D
D
They'll
be
able
to
tell
the
story
and
that's
part
of
the
you
know,
corporate
sponsorship
package,
but
then
also
they
would
be
able
to
offer
the
discount
and
then
potentially
maybe
having
like
a
creality
them
being
able
to
do,
but
maybe
this
wouldn't
be
as
appealing
to
them,
but
then
being
able
to
do
like
a
creality
event
with
the
community
so
being
able
to
do
something
where
you
know
they
could
then
say
this
is
just
showing
how
the
you
know
like
a.
D
I
guess,
like
a
pitch
to
the
community,
about
why
this
printer
is
good
for
doing
for
printing
enabled
devices
that
might
be
appealing
to
them,
because
I
mean
that
hopefully
would
drive
the
the
that,
hopefully,
would
then
drive
adoption
of,
because
I
think
they're
gonna
what
they're
gonna
want
that.
But
I
mean
they
also
want
to
be
able
to
say
reality
for
good.
That's
like
their
that's
their
big
thing
and
that's
that's
worth
money,
that's
sort
of
being.
A
Able
to
say
that
I
don't
want
to
spend
too
much
time
on
this.
It
sounds
like
I
should
go
back
to
them,
maybe
with
some
ideas
about
how
they
could
get
involved
and
gauge
their
interest
and
and
see
which
of
those
avenues
they
want
to
pursue
and
we
can
sort
out
the
details
later,
but
I
think
I
have
enough
in
the
way
of
ideas
that
I
can
go
back
to
them
and
and
see
where
they're
leaning.
So,
let's,
let's
leave
it
at
that.
For
now,.
D
A
Yeah
we
have
a
page
up
on
enablingthefuture.org,
okay
for
co-working
and
sponsorship
opportunities
and
it's
still
a
work
in
progress
but
yeah.
The
page
is
up.
D
Yeah,
cool
okay,
so
that
so
we
could.
I
just
would-
and
do
you
think
that
would
cover
what
we've
talked
about
in
terms
of
yeah
in
terms
of
the
thing,
so
this
is
yeah.
Okay,
cool
I'll.
Have
a
look
at
that.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so,
let's
move
along
one
of
the
other
things
we've
been
discussing.
Is
this
it's
under
this
heading
of
long,
enable
concern
expressed
by
rob
reger,
and
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
a
sort
of
an
imbalance
between
our
production
capacity
and
the
current
demand
level.
As
far
as
people
finding
their
way
to
us
to
ask
for
devices,
we
have,
I
think,
a
lot
more
volunteers
making
devices
than
we
have
people
asking
for
them,
and
so
we've
talked
about
ways
of
addressing
that.
A
One
of
the
ways
that
we're
working
on
addressing
that
is,
we've
launched
some
google
ads
and
I
continue
to
work
on
kind
of
tweaking
those
they
are
up
and
running.
I
should
say
it
is
up
and
running.
I
only
have
one
ad
running
right
now
for
sort
of
free
devices,
I'm
just
popping
in
there
now
to
check
yeah
it's
it
hasn't,
really
changed.
A
Much
so
what's
happening,
is
it's
working
it's
showing
up,
but
we're
not
getting
as
many
impressions
and
clicks
as
I
would
hope
for,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
just
a
reflection
of
the
amount
of
search
activity
there
is
going
on
for
this
kind
of
thing
or
if
there's
there's
further
work
needed
to
be
done
to
tune.
You
know
the
ads
and
everything
like,
for
example.
A
So
far
today,
we've
had
29
impressions
and
four
clicks,
which
is,
I
would
think
there
would
be
a
lot
more
activity
than
that,
so
I'm
still
working
on
it
still
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
that
up,
because
I've
got
the
budget
set
pretty
high.
It's
not
consuming
anywhere
near
the
budget
that
I
have
set
and-
and
yet
it's
just
I
don't
know,
I've
got
all
the
keywords
that
I
could
think
of
in
there
and
it's
it's
working,
it's
just
not
showing
up
as
much
as
I'd
like.
A
C
A
A
A
So
we're
working
on
ads
to
help
build
awareness
of
the
fact
that
we
offer
free
devices
that'll
help
to
get
the
word
out
there.
We
talked
about
other
types
of
outreach.
John
is
working
on
kind
of
looking
into
compatible
organizations
that
might
be
able
to.
You
know,
help
connect
us
with
people
in
need.
A
We've
also
talked
about.
You
know
there
was
a
a
time
in
the
past
where,
in
order
to
request
a
device,
people
would
just
fill
out
a
simple
form.
It
was
a
google
form
with
a
small
number
of
fields
where
they'd
put
in
their
contact
info,
and
you
know
they'd
submit
their
request
and
they'd.
That
would
get
them
in
into
the
queue
and
we
had
quite
a
large
number
of
requests
through
that
process.
A
I
mean
well
over
a
thousand,
and
so
we
talked
about
maybe
revisiting,
that
of
offering
a
simple
form
that
you
can
fill
out
and
we'll
worry
about
getting
you
on
board
and
into
enable
web
central
later,
let's,
let's
first
just
capture
your
information
and
interest
in
a
simple
form.
So
that's
on
me
to
set
that
up
and
we'll
see
if
that
might
help
get
more
people
in
the
door.
E
Maybe
I'll
raise
my
hand
to
work
with
john
in
the
compatible
organizations
when
I
worked
in
cambodia
and
afghanistan
there's
a
big
sort
of
international
effort
with
landmines,
there's
a
lot
of
organizations
that
work
with
land
mines.
I
know
that
we're
sort
of
in
the
early
stages
of
lower
limb
support,
but
I
think
getting
on
their
radar
would
be
great
and
it's
not
just
lower
limb
for
those
communities.
So
there's
a
couple
really
large
organizations,
some
of
them.
E
I
actually
worked
with
in
terms
of
like
programs
for
children
in
the
past,
so
I
can
reach
out
to
some
of
them.
A
Okay,
we
had
also
talked
about
this
idea
of
of
sending
a
you
know
some
kind
of
a
kit
to
you
know
these
these
organizations
of
potential
interest,
something
that
would
have
information
about
enable
and
what
we
can
offer
as
well.
As
you
know,
an
actual
device
that
they
can
check
out
and
that
sort
of
thing
maria
had
talked
at
one
point
about
having
a
a
handbag
that
she
sends
out
that
sounded
like
it
was
similar
to
that
maria.
A
A
C
Jeremy
just
want
to
mention
you
know
going
to
ben's
idea
and
john
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
the
concept
of
anybody
in
the
world
making
a
device
to
successfully
send
to
anybody
else
in
the
world
is
difficult,
both
from
the
shipping
cost
and
the
fitting,
and
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
chapters
that
are
the
most
prominent
and
do
the
most
work
they
work
with
local
people.
C
I
know
from
my
26
devices
I've
sent
it's
extremely
difficult
to
work
from
a
long
distance,
even
with
the
simpler
device.
That's
right
forget
it
not
going
to
happen
not
today,
so
you
know
we
can
talk
about
approaching
organizations
in
cambodia.
It's
a
great
idea,
but
if
it's
successful
you're
not
going
to
have
people
like
me
sending
devices
to
cambodia
and
have
them
being
successful,
it's
just
not
going
to
work.
E
Right-
and
you
know
the
this
sort
of
goes
back
to
efforts
towards
sort
of
this
chapter
of
development
and
kind
of
the
local
network
infrastructure
that
we
have
as
a
community.
I
think
that
maybe
is
part
of
this
fix
to
the
imbalance.
You
know
something
we
consider
is.
E
Encouraging
chapters
supporting
chapters
between
each
other,
getting
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
thinking
about
with
this
wishbone
project,
is
establishing
sort
of
like
regional
hubs,
probably
based
on
language,
where,
if
somebody
gets,
you
know,
somebody,
let's
say
in
ethiopia,
says
that
they
need
filament
and
they're.
Struggling
part
of
getting
supported
would
also
include
a
mentor.
E
I
think
that
doesn't
directly
solve
what
you're
talking
about,
but
I
think
in
in
the
larger
picture.
It
does
help
to
support
that
imbalance,
because
we
can
sort
of
have
these
these
relationships
based
on
common
language,
and
if
there
is
somebody
that
needs
something
printed
in
cambodia,
we
wouldn't
be
sending
it
from
the
us.
We'd
maybe
be
sending
it
from
thailand.
So.
C
E
C
A
C
A
D
Yeah
I
thought
that
was
a
glitch.
I
thought
that
was
a
computer
thing,
but
I
guess
the
thing
is
that
you
know.
I
guess
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
look
at
is
what
are
the
tools
that
we
could
give
chapters
to
help
them
drive
demand
like
you
know
like
get
them
say
you
know,
have
a
have
a
thing
with
them.
It's
like.
Have
you
reached
out
to
local
occupational
therapists?
Have
you
you
know?
D
Are
there
any
charities
locally
to
you
who
are
limb,
different
charities,
who
you
could
reach
out
to
like
start
to
get
them,
rather
than
them,
thinking
of
themselves
purely
as
as
kind
of
the
supply
side
try
to
get
them
shifting
into
that
sort
of
demand
mindset
as
well,
because
because
that's
what
we
are
trying
now
to
work
with
this
guy
who's
who's,
who
does
kind
of
upper
limb
prosthetics
for
for
the
uk,
and
he
has
has
said-
I
mean
it's
slow
going,
but
he
in
theory
has
access
to
a
lot
of
demand
and
as
kind
of
the
the
lead
consultant
on
this
for
the
for
the
uk,
I
know
so
well
I
mean
we'll
see
how
it
goes,
but
it
that
seems
like
the
sort
of
avenue
that
it
might
be
interesting
for
chapters
to.
E
You
know
maybe
to
add
on
to
that
bob.
You
know.
I
know.
We've
talked
a
lot,
especially
in
the
spring
last
year,
about
these
different
non-chapter
entities
and
I
think
those
are
really
worth
exploring
at
the
same
point
having
some
process,
even
though
it's
it's
sort
of
loose
with
the
badges
having
that
process
to
sort
of
formalize
these,
you
know
the
chapter
entities
I
think
has
been
really
successful.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
continue
to
see
people
interested
in,
even
if
it's
sort
of
not
so
clear
how
long
that
they
last.
E
I
think
that
as
a
model
has
been
really
done
well,
we've
got
the
map.
People
are
interested,
it
sort
of
identifies
the
communities
based
on
these
sort
of
chapters.
So
you
know
in
the
future
we
can
explore
maybe
other
kinds
of
entities
you
know
whether
they're
you
know
resource
hubs
like
libraries
or
you
know
different
requirements
set.
You
know.
Maybe
it's
not
based
on
3d
printing
capabilities
but
educators.
We
can
have
different
kinds
of
entities,
but
we
don't
have
badges
or
a
process
set
up
for
that
or
a
map.
Yet.
C
C
C
E
You
know
it
could
be
something
too
to
consider
in
the
same
way
that
we're
talking
about
these.
You
know
video
concierge
supports
for
ewc.
I
think
the
badging,
having
sort
of
equivalence
you
know
being
able
to
have
somebody
do
the
badges
for
chapters
like
thailand
or
even
brazil.
If
they're
doing
the
work
it
should
be,
or
it
could
be,
an
opportunity
for
us
to
you
know,
maybe
get
some
volunteers
involved
to
basically
find
the
equivalents
that
they
need
to
be
documented.
E
You
know
the
documentation,
you're
right,
it's
sort
of
a
u.s
thing,
but
it's
it's
being
able
to
show
evidence
of
our
community
and-
and
I
think
you
know
or
organically
there's
chapters
that
are
developing
far
outside
of
the
badges.
They
don't
need
those
requirements,
but
as
a
community,
it's
really
helpful.
So
you
know
we
can
kind
of
think
about.
How
can
we
create
the
footprints
that
we
need
to
make
our
community
more
visible?
I
guess.
C
D
I
mean,
I
think,
that
the
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
well,
the
I'm
reminded
of
the
spider-man
theme
tune,
which
I've
heard
quite
a
lot
recently
because
of
it
really
like
spider-man,
but
they
they
say
that
action
action
is
his
reward
and
I
feel
like
the
I
feel
like
that,
like
at
the
end
of
the
day
printing
a
device
for
somebody
yeah.
D
If
it's,
if
it's
printed
for
somebody
locally,
then
you
will
work
on
that
device
until
it
and
you
know
until
it
fits
until
it
works
for
the
person.
And
so
you
know
it
feels
like
the
real
priority,
as
we've
kind
of
discussed
before
should
be.
It
should
be
on
that
that
kind
of
demand,
generation
and.
B
D
Think
as
well,
if,
if
we
can
drive
demand
generation
through
empowering
those
chapters,
I
think
then
that
will
get
people
potentially
that
will
get
individuals
who
aren't
in
a
chapter
to
maybe
start
moving
towards
the
chapters
I
mean.
If
we
can
say
look
you
know
people
are
saying:
oh
I'm
I
I
want
to
have
more
opportunities
to
print
and
we're
like.
Oh,
but
you're,
close
to
you're
close
to
here.
You
should
move
into
this
chapter.
That's
seeing
that
sort
of
this,
this
being
driven.
C
C
The
success
is
that
a
child
knows
that
somebody
cares
about
them
enough
to
send
them
a
themed
hand,
and
they
maybe
they
just
play
with
it
or
wear
it
as
and
it
doesn't
work
half
the
time,
but
it
looks
good
on
them.
Maybe
it
gives
them
courage
and
and
verification
and
and
less
makes
them
feel
less
different
makes
them
feel
special
in
in
a
school
setting.
It
teaches
students
not
only
the
the
technology,
but
it
teaches
them
empathy
to
make
something
that's
useful
to
somebody
else.
Instead
of
little
toy
boats.
C
D
B
B
They
have
a
wonderful
presentation
and
they're.
Clearly
a
thriving
and
as
of
now
well-documented
chapter,
success
story.
B
I
think
one
of
the
things
this
discussion
highlights
is
that
identifying
success
models
would
be
very
useful
and
I
would
put
forward
that
one
as
an
example
try.
Reach
is
another
great
example.
I
think.
Maybe
what
we're
saying
is
that
the
chapter
share
project
may
become
sort
of
the
center
for
focusing
on
the
chapter
as
a
unit.
Now,
that's
not
to
say
that
everyone
has
to
belong
in
chapters,
but
it's
a
target
that
we
can
think
about
empowering
and
building
up
those
case
studies.
B
So
it
may
be
that
we're
going
to
want
to
divide
and
conquer.
We
have
sort
of
badges
for
individuals.
We
have
now.
I
think
a
number
of
ideas
about
what
to
do
to
promote
chapters
we
can
think
about
creality
as
and
and
other
things
as
where
they
fit
in
there.
And
that's
that's
all.
I
got
it's
all
very
complicated,
but
I
think
there
are
two
approaches.
There's
the
individual
approach
and
the
chapter
approach
and
right.
E
E
Right
and-
and
I
think
it
doesn't
have
to
be-
you
don't
have
to
think
about
it
as
a
chapter
per
se-
it
can
be
right
now.
What
we
call
a
chapter
is
one
flavor
of
entity,
and
I
think
we
can
explore
in
the
future
other
kinds
of
these
entities,
but
the
more
developed
we
get
with
chapters
the
more
it's
going
to
be
a
model
for
other
things.
E
You
know
bob
mentioned:
how
do
we
measure
success?
I
think
that's
really.
You
know
the
measuring
part
is
worth
really
considering,
and
I
took
notes
on
all
the
points
that
he
made,
but
I
thought
it's
a
lot
of
angles,
a
lot
of
ways
that
we
can
consider
this
and
it's
not
necessarily
the
success
of
the
device
in
a
traditional
sense.
A
B
D
Yeah,
that
sounds
really
interesting.
It'd
be
interesting
to
speak
to
them
just
to
see
how,
because
they
obviously
would
have
had
to
navigate
the
to
an
extent
we'll
have
had
to
navigate
the
eu
stuff.
So.
D
A
Okay,
well,
let's,
let's
move
on
down
because
we're
running
out
of
time
here,
let's
go
down
to
our
other
partnerships
and
fundraising
section
in
the
notes.
I
believe
it's
worth
talking
a
moment
about
the
dora
foundation,
which
we
have
won.
Congratulations,
and-
and
thank
you
especially
to
bob
for
the
hard
work
on
that
so
clarify
am.
I
am
I
right
that
this
was
a
three-year
commitment
right.
A
C
I
I
think
there
is
a
conversation
to
be
had
at
some
point
about
the
best
way
to
encourage
how
that
money
is
spent.
I
realized
we
have
the
lumio
process,
but
this
may
be
an
opportunity
to
to
not
be
so
us
centric,
because
in
the
past
you
know,
adam
armfield
has
requested
funds,
and
you
know
this
may
play
a
part
and
parcel
into
support
of
chapters,
and
things
like
that.
B
I
haven't
written
a
letter
of
thanks
to
dora
yet,
but
I
will,
but
I
will
also
ask
them
what
kind
of
an
announcement
they
would
like
to
make,
whether
they
want
to
blow
their
horn
or
not.
E
Money
we
did
make
a
draft
for
something
that
we
could
potentially
share
and
send
it
to
john.
I
think
it's
also
probably
worth
thinking
about
maria's
handbag
idea
as
a
thank
you,
you
know
not
just
for
potential
donors,
but
you
know
the
people
that
we
want
to
sort
of
keep
on
good
terms
with
that
have
been
supporting
us
yeah.
E
A
When
you
guys
do
the
announcement,
when
you,
when
you
announce
the
donation,
let
me
know
because
I
also
want
to
add
them
to
our
sponsors
page
on
etf.
So
let
me
know
once
we're
you
know
ready
to
go
public
with
that,
and
you
know
send
me
their
logo
or
anything
else
like
that,
and
I
can.
I
can
get
them
added
onto
the
etf
page.
D
Because
I
I
was
just
I
was
just
going
to
say:
maybe
if,
because
you
know
stuff,
like
potentially
chapters
running
their
own,
you
know
using
the
funds
to
run
an
advertising
campaign
in
their
own
specific
market,
so
that
then
it
would
be
localized.
You
know
they
they
might
be
able
to.
D
You
know
that
generate
leads
kind
of
winning
their
own
market
or
yeah
just
more
widely
for
kind
of
what?
What
would
chapters
want
funds
for
to
kind
of
to
kind
of
beef
up
their
demand
generation
efforts?
That
would
be
an
interesting
kind
of
area
to
explore
to
see
see
what,
because
that
that
might
be
yeah
they
might
be
able
to
make
a
few
hundred
dollars
go
quite
a
long
way
if
it's
in
terms
of
advertising
or
printing
out
flyers
or.
E
Whatever
sort
of
like
the
localized
crowdfunding
campaign
that
we
almost
deployed
in
march
yeah,
that
could
be
worth
considering.
D
C
It
has
been
said
in
the
past
by
some
folks
internationally
that
they
feel
all
our
systems
and
everything
are
u.s
centric,
including
the
deployment
of
funds,
and
you
know
it
goes
part
and
parcel
with
everything.
That's
in
english.
You
know
that's
changing,
of
course,
but
anyway,
this
would
be
a
great
opportunity
to
spread
the
wealth.
D
I
mean,
I
think,
because
you
know
traditionally-
and
I
know
we've
focused
on
how
we
can
engage
some
of
the
chapters
who
haven't
been
as
as
active,
but
actually
maybe
it
is
worth
setting
up
some
sessions
with
the
chapters
who
those
successful
chapters
and
just
setting
up
a
you
know
a
call
like
for
an
hour
like
this.
Just
with
those
chapters
just
to
go
through
get
an
idea
of
what
they,
what
they
would,
what
they
would
need,
yeah
and
and
how
they
were
yeah.
What
what
could
be
done
to
make
it
feel
less.
B
Central
a
chapters
focus
group
yeah.
B
Yeah,
it's
a
good
idea
and
a
recurring
chapter
leaders,
you
know,
focus
group
or
discussion
might
be
a
good
way
of
flushing
out
what's
needed.
It
would
be.
A
B
A
It
up
here
we're
at
the
top
of
the
hour.
One
final
question
for
ben:
when
is
our
next
new
member
meet
up
for
the
hub
and
do
you
need
me
to
set
up
a
zoom
meeting
for
that.
E
We
we
met
this
week
on
monday,
with
ricardo,
who
is
a
research
he's,
not
even
a
student.
He
works
in
at
unam.
E
E
What
works
for
everybody?
It
wouldn't
want
to
be
11
to
12,
because
that
is
our
d
mass,
although
the
morning
is
probably
ideal
for.
A
A
All
right
so
9
00
am
my
time
on
wednesday.
All
right
I'll,
set
up
a
zoom
meeting
and
send
that
to
you,
ben
and
let
you
then
invite
people.
E
D
What
what's
the
what's
is
that
for
would
that
would
that
be
another?
Would
that
be
a
good
venue
for
some
of
the
3d
crowd
people
to
be
introduced
to
enable,
or
is
that
for
kind
of
like?
Is
that
a
kind
of
introduction
to
enable
kind
of
thing
yeah.
A
It's
just
it's
for
any
new
members
that
have
joined
the
community
and
it's
a
way
to
welcome
them
and
talk
them
about
where
they
can
find
resources
and
how
they
can
get
those
volunteers.
And
that
sort
of
thing
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
right
venue
to
introduce
a
group
like
that.
What
do
you
guys
think.
B
A
D
So
three
three
crowd
of
the
that
was
the
group
that
did
the
mask
the
visor
printing
in
the
uk,
but
they're
now
pivoting
to
support
new
projects.
So
one
of
them
is
around
disaster
relief,
so
is
around
creating
a
library
of
3d
printed
objects
that
can
be
used
for
disaster
relief
and
they're
working
with
a
number
of
kind
of
development
organizations
and
humanitarian
organizations.
D
One
is
enable-
and
so
you
know
we're
working
with
it
with
enable
another-
is
a
bioreactor,
a
3d,
printed
bioreactor
and
the
third
is
a
ventilator,
a
ventilator
3d
printer.
E
This
chapter
leaders
group
as
something
for
the
future.
I
think,
having
some
kind
of
presentation
from
a
group
like
that
for
the
chapter
leaders
might
be
worthwhile
to
consider,
but.
D
A
Okay,
all
right
folks,
I
will
I'll
follow
up
with
you,
ben
with
the
zoom
meeting
link
I'll,
see
the
rest
of
you
thanks
buddy.