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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - June 23, 2023
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A
A
All
right,
so,
let's
see
I
hate
to
keep
asking
about
this.
Every
week,
John
I
know
it
takes
whatever
time
it
takes,
but
are
you
still
working
on
that
fiscal
I
am.
B
Still
working
on
it,
yeah
I,
you
know
if
we
really
really
need
something.
I
can
write
something
to
describe
the
status
quo.
It's
just
that
I'm
working
to
change
the
status
quo.
A
A
A
A
Let
me
just
go
to
my
spreadsheet
here,
real
quick,
because
we
were
tracking
weekly
metrics,
all
of
these
metrics
here
about
Hub
participation
and
chapters
and
web
Central,
and
the
help
desk
and
all
this
we've
got
pretty
charts
that
show
our
growth
over
time
and
all
this.
But
since,
since
we
we
lost
some
volunteers
and
things
fell
back
into
my
lap.
This
was
back
in
April
I.
A
These
have
not
been
updated
and
at
this
point
it's
getting
to
where
it
would
be
a
little
bit
challenging
to
go
back
and
try
to
fill
in
all
the
weekly
data
and
get
back
on
track.
But
it's
there
for
you
to
do
with
as
you
please,
if
you
think.
A
I
mean
the
data's
there,
certainly
all
the
Hub
data
you
can
go
back
because
you
can
go
back
and
report
for
any
given
week
window.
We
really
don't
know
the
number
of
chapters
because
we
never
finished
the
chapter
audit,
so
that's
kind
of
up
in
the
air
anyway.
A
Web
Central
is
a
little
bit
tricky
because
it
does
not
have
that
facility
to
go
back
and
say
give
me
the
numbers
for
this
specific
week.
So
we'd
have
to
kind
of
look
at
the
current
numbers
and
then
just
kind
of
project
forward
between
the
the
middle
weeks,
the
help
desk
I
can
get
weekly
reporting
historically,
so
yeah
I
think
the
only
one
that
would
wouldn't
be
exactly
accurate
would
be
enable
web
Central
and
that's
no
big
deal
because
there's
not
a
huge
amount
of
activity
there
these
days
so
yeah.
A
C
A
All
right,
so,
let's
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
posts
of
the
week.
Julie
lesson:
module:
okay,
so
Julie
Hoyle,
let's
see
new
to
The
Forum.
She
teaches
fifth
and
sixth
grade.
Gifted
students
found
a
lesson
module
on
thingiverse,
where
students
create
adaptations
for
the
fingers
of
the
Raptor
reloaded
as
the
base
designed
to
allow
for
specific
function
like
holding
the
guitar
pick
as
an
example,
seeing
from
the
site
that
this
is
not
on
the
recommended
list
of
devices.
A
I'd
love
for
my
students
to
actually
provide
the
enabled
devices
to
real
recipients
need
some
guidance
on
how
to
get
started
and
if
I
should
go
with
the
Phoenix
hand
on
the
recommended
list
and
have
student
design
and
make
adaptations
for
that
hand,
I
would
have
somewhere
between
five
to
ten
hands,
to
send
out
to
recipients
at
the
end
of
the
project
with
possible
date,
December
23..
So
this
is
one
of
those
cases
where
and
I'm.
Just
looking
I
don't
know
that
we
have
Sarah.
Today
we
I
think
we
do
not
okay
well.
A
This
is
usually
where
I
would
ask
her
for
some
help
in
posting,
this
part
of
our
recording
so
I'm
going
to
offer
some
suggestions
here
verbally,
but
maybe
I
can
find
some
time
to
do
that
later.
A
But
what
I
was
going
to
say
is
that
yes,
I
would
recommending
recommend
using
the
Phoenix,
probably
the
Phoenix
V3,
because
not
only
is
that
one
of
the
currently
recommended
designs,
but
we
also
have
the
actual
CAD
files,
the
editable
CAD
files
available,
including
a
full
Fusion
360
model
that
can
be
used
or
that
can
be
exported
into
any
one
of
a
bunch
of
different
CAD
formats.
So
it
really
does
give
you
a
better
base
to
work
from
I.
A
Don't
even
think
we
had
the
true
CAD
models
for
the
Raptor
reloader,
if
I
recall
correctly,
so
I
think
this
would
give
you
a
better
base
to
work
from
having
editable
CAD
files,
solid
body
models,
and
the
only
other
thing
I
want
to
point
out.
Is
it's
pretty
common
that
we
see
this?
Where
a
group
or
a
especially
a
classroom,
is
going
to
make
a
a
bunch
of
devices
and
is
kind
of
expecting
to
be
able
to
send
those
to
us
and
for
us
to
get
those
into
the
hands
of
people
that
need
them.
A
It
never
really
got
fully
functional
and
has
since
dissolved,
and
we
haven't
really
been
able
to
replace
that
I
do
hope
that
we
will
be
able
to
come
up
with
some
kind
of
a
facility
for
this,
but
as
of
now,
it
really
is
kind
of
up
to
our
volunteers
and
our
volunteer
groups
to
sort
of
explore
locally
and
find
their
own
options
for.
C
C
I
have
a
potential
update
there,
okay,
so
our
friends
in
Canada,
a
chapter
who
I've
been
in
contact
with
it's
a
a
high
school
based
group.
They
have
just
shipped
out
their
first
dozen
hands
to
Kabul
well
specifically
to
Pakistan,
who
will
then
ship
to
Kabul.
C
But
half
of
those
were
assembled.
Half
of
those
were
disassembled,
we're
testing
to
see
you
know
what
arrives
and
how
quickly
and
you
know
in
what
condition.
C
But
if
you
know
assuming
wildmont
is
able
to
join
on
or
regardless,
it
would
be
a
little
bit
slower
if
I'm
on
my
own,
but
one
way
or
another.
If
we
can
establish
that
this
shipping
route
is
reliable
and
not
prohibitively
expensive,
all
we
would
need
is
to
have
someone
act
as
a
go-between
to
ensure
quality
and
making
sure
that
the
volume
wouldn't
be
too
high
to
you
know
to
make
it
infeasible
to
give
them
the
ability
to
do
it.
C
But
if
we
had
someone
who's
able
to
check
devices
as
a
waypoint
and
then
ship
them
out
or
a
group
of
people
or
maybe
a
chapter
spread
across
the
country
or
across
several
countries,
who
would
be
that
intermediary
Point,
then
any
device
printed
by
an
enable
volunteer
could
potentially
get
in
the
hands
of
a
recipient.
A
C
The
Dr
Ramin
is
the
the
head
prosthetist
in
Kabul
at
the
hospital,
the
orthopedic
center
there,
and
he
is
always
sending
me
pictures
of
people
who
are
in
need
of
devices,
so
he
will
I'm
sure
be
sending
me
pictures
who
of
people
who
have
actually
received
them
soon.
A
Well,
that's
great,
and
is
it
prematured
then
to
if,
for
other
people
that
reach
out
like
Julie
here
saying
you
know
hey:
where
can
we
send
these
devices
I
mean,
should
I
connect
them
with
you
or
what?
What
would
be
our
instructions
to
them
at
this
point
just
hold
off.
C
Let
me
really
soon
I'm
hoping
that
that
would
be
the
right
way
to
go.
I
think
I'd
be
very
happy
to
schedule.
If
there
are
multiple
people,
I
mean
I'd,
be
happy
to
have
like
a
weekly
or
bi-weekly
touch
Point,
to
introduce
people
to
the
Afghan
initiative,
I'm,
hoping
that
this
can
also
spin
off
into
other
targeted
Global
Endeavors.
C
We
identify
other
places
like
my
contact
in
Kenya
and
my
contact
in
Nigeria,
who
might
be
able
to
make
use
of
these
things,
also
excitingly.
If
we
are
able
to
confirm
that
we
are
cleared
by
the
FDA
to
print
leg,
socket
components
that
could
be
shipped
to
to
a
couple
of
sites
in
Africa
I.
Think
that
there's
there's
just
so
much
that
that
Canon
I
think
should
be
done.
C
Wow,
okay,
so
yeah,
it's
yeah,
it's
I,
think
all
of
this
stuff
is
finally
starting
to
take
off
a
little
bit
I'm,
just
waiting
to
hear
that
those
components
have
arrived
in
Kabul
and
once
that's
done,
then
I
think
that
we
can
try
to
establish
some
kind
of
process
where
a
maker
creates
something
it's
shipped
to
someone
to
ensure
quality
yeah
and
then
the
QA
person
then
forwards
it
to
Pakistan.
A
That's
something
I've
been
trying
to
do
for
a
long
time.
John
I'll
come
to
you
in
just
one.
Second,
we
have
a
comment
chat
from
one
of
our
new
participants
here:
Carolina
who
I'm
going
to
have
the
new
new
folks
here
introduce
themselves
in
a
short
while
just
want
to
go
through
these
posts
first,
but
Carolina
asks
about.
A
A
We
haven't
really
used
that
for
things
like
you
know,
shipping
a
device
to
a
recipient
on
an
individual
basis,
but
when
we
get
into
this
realm
or
we're
talking
about
getting
a
group
of
devices
together
and
getting
those
into
the
hands
of
people
that
need
them,
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
use
of
of
our
funds.
It
would
be
a
matter
of
you
know,
and
it's
it's
not
that
hard.
It
can
be
a
little
bit
intimidating.
A
But
if
you,
if
you're,
not
a
member
of
our
lumio
platform,
be
sure
to
sign
up
for
that
and
I'm
just
going
to
put
a
link
to
that
in
chat
here,
anyone
can
join
and
there
are
on
the
very
first
page
you
come
to
here,
you're,
going
to
see
a
description
of
the
process
and
if
you
just
read
through
this,
it's
basically
a
matter
of
writing
up
a
proposal
that
includes
you
know
a
description
of
the
work
to
be
performed,
or
in
this
case
it's
just
a
description
of
you
know
what
you're
looking
to
do
the
expected
results
or
impact
the
estimate
of
the
work
effort
which
is
not
really
applicable
in
this
case,
it's
more
just
a
straight
shipping
cost
timeline
the
names
of
the
responsible
individuals,
the
amount
of
funding
that
you're
asking
for,
and
just
a
brief
overview
of
your
work
with
being
able
to
let
people
know
who
you
are,
and
so
all
you
do
is
kind
of
write
that
up
and
then
it
has
to
go
up
just
as
a
discussion.
A
A
To
go
unless
you
know,
unless
it
becomes
something,
that's
really
frequent
and
we
wanted
to
bring
more
visibility
to
it,
maybe
at
least
for
the
first
several
of
these
it
might
be
easier
to
just
say
you
know
bring
it
here.
You
know,
have
all
the
details,
ready
get
your
quote
together
and,
and
that
sort
of
thing
tell
us
how
many
devices
and
who
they're
going
to
and
that
sort
of
thing
and.
E
C
By
a
vote
of
hands,
we
can
just
do
it,
and
I
might
I
might
suggest
that,
there's
that
we
could
develop
a
third
path
if
we
had
a
standing
budget
for
shipping
to
these
kind
of
targeted.
You
know
these.
These
Global
initiatives.
A
B
A
couple
of
things
I,
like
everything
I'm
hearing
I,
wanted
to
suggest
that
before
opening
the
floodgates
to
lots
of
people
saying
okay,
I
got
all
these
devices
that
we
build
we're
going
to
send
them
to
Afghanistan.
We
ramp
this
up
gradually
and
we
make
sure
that
the
loop
gets
closed.
Yeah,
you
know,
remember:
3D
printed
devices
often
need
adjusting
and
customization,
and
that's
that
necessarily
happens
on
the
far
end
and
that's
a
challenging
task
under
any
conditions.
B
So,
let's
not,
as
we
have
done
on
occasion
in
the
past,
create
a
mechanism
that
doesn't
quite
close
the
loop
and
get
its
intended
John
job
done,
which.
A
Is
just
I
agree,
I
and
I
also
want
to
just
point
out,
and
this
is
maybe
for
you
Adam
to
think
about
that.
You
know
I've
as
recently
as
within
this
last
week,
I've
had
inquiries
from
people
saying
Hey
I
want
to
start
making
hands
is
how
how
do
I
handle
things
like
getting
the
supplies,
I
need
and
materials
and
I
had
to
explain.
You
know
we
generally
just
don't
don't
help
with
that.
The
volunteers
take
care
of
that
themselves.
A
But
when
we
start
looking
at
a
program
like
this,
where
a
volunteer
is
saying,
yeah,
I'll
print,
a
bunch
of
hands
or
arms
that
you
can
ship
overseas
I,
we
might
want
to
think
about
a
program
where,
maybe,
through
my
company,
3D
Universe,
you
know
I
have
a
whole
line
of
skin
tone.
Pet
G
filaments-
maybe
I,
can
contribute
materials
at
no
charge
to
these
volunteers,
if
enable
is
able
to
help
offset
those
costs.
For
me,
if
that
could
be
part
of
the
program
that
we
get
approved.
That's
something
we're
thinking
about
too.
So.
C
I'm
sorry
I'm
just
really
excited
because
all
of
these
things
every
now
and
then
things
just
kind
of
align
chronologically
in
a
really
neat
way.
So
I've,
oh
boy,
where
to
start
up
this
one.
Okay,
so
thing
number
one
to
the
point
of
closing
the
loop
and
ensuring
that
there's
follow-up
care.
C
C
Who's
really
just
looking
for
assistance
with
inventory,
because
they're
in
areas
where
you
know
things
are
prohibitively
expensive
or
if
they're
exploring
additive
manufacturing
techniques
like
3D
printing,
they
simply
can't
get
their
hands
on
the
at
the
appropriate
filament
I'm
going
to
try
to
keep
my
thoughts
organized
here
so
bear
with
me
so
I'm
not
as
we're
worried
about
follow-up
care,
because
my
goal
is
to
provide.
A
C
So
that's
thing
number
one
so,
assuming
that
we
can
provide
them
with
adequate
sizing
and
enough,
you
know
enough
copies
in
theory,
they
should
be
able
to
just
slap
a
new
one
on
as
the
patient
requires
it,
and
it
can
just
be
integrated
into
larger
hand
kind
of
what
is
it
Theseus
ship
or
is
it
anyway?
C
It
doesn't
matter
thing
number
two
to
new
members
who
are
joining
I,
think
that
we
want
to
hold
off
on
ramping
sub
too
quickly,
because
a
filamentite
is
going
to
be
a
significant,
a
thought.
I
think
that
not
only
color.
We
also
need
to
consider
whether
the
material
is
going
to
be
durable
enough
or
yeah.
C
A
Polypropylene,
would
it's
a
it's
a
strong
material,
but
it's
probably
too
flexible
for
a
lot
of
our
devices.
It's
good
for
things
like
living
hinges,
because
it's
highly
abrasions.
A
Is
but
it's
as
far
as
I
know,
it's
not
a
material
that
you
could
really
thermoform
interesting.
It
has
tremendous
shape
memory,
so
it
just
popped
back
to
the
original
shape.
Oh.
C
Interesting
well,
we
we
should
probably
do
a
little
bit
of
testing.
You
know,
or
at
least
discussion
about
what
the
ideal
material
is
for
areas
where
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
Rough
and
Tumble.
Well,.
C
C
For
lower
extremity,
the
prosthetists
that
I've
been
talking
to
have
been
really
leaning
toward
polypropylene
for
the
leg
socket,
probably
because
it
is
a
little
bit
more
flexible
and.
A
D
A
C
Yes,
the
last
thing
that
I
want
to
speak
to
is
on
the
subject
of
cosmesis.
You
know
the
the
look
of
the
device.
A
lot
of
the
areas
we're
talking
about
recipients
are
going
to
be
much
less
interested
in
functionality,
they're
going
to
be
much
more
interested
in
having
a
hand
that
looks
like
an
actual
hand.
Yeah
we've
got
a
couple
of
people
who
can
actually
fabricate
silicone
sleeves
like
gloves
that
go
over
the
device
that
can
be
air
painted
to
look
like
the
residual
Tanya
Lurch
in
California.
C
She
think
has
been
active,
but
she
she
is.
She
is
a
community
I'd
love.
A
C
See
one
of
those
yeah
me
too:
we
had
a
conversation
last
week
about
all
of
this
and
she's
really
excited
she
has.
She
has
very
strong
feelings
about
model
type.
I
know
that
she
really
prefers
the
Connecticut.
C
Feels
you
know
me
walking
in
I'm
just
like
anything
that
gets
the
job
done
and
anything
we
can
slap
on.
Somebody
is
good
enough,
but
yeah,
but
yeah.
That's
really
cool,
so
I
think
that
I
I
think
all
of
these
things
would
be
great
items
to
you
know
see
what
survives
the
the
shipping
and
what
what's
the
relative
cost
and
what's
what's
a
realistic
barrier
to
entry,
that
people
could
clear
and
give
them
their
skill
level
and
resources.
C
But
once
I've
got
this
first
shipment
in
the
hands
of
people
in
Kabul,
I
think
that's
when
we
can
start
trying
to
ramp
this
up
in
a
way
that
could
be
sustained
and
I
will
also
say
on
the
subject
of
seeking
funding.
I've
been-
and
maybe
this
is
a
topic
for
a
few
minutes
from
now,
but
I've
been
in
touch
with
a
couple
of
I.
Don't
want
to
call
them
influencers
because
I
don't
like
that
term,
but
a
couple
of
amputee
folks
who
are
active
on
social
media
and
I.
C
F
B
A
Well,
I
I,
don't
know
how
we
phrased
it.
We
have
to
go
back
and
look,
but
the
idea
was
that
you
shouldn't
be
going
out
and
recruiting
people
specifically
to
come
in
and
vote
on
your
proposal
that
they
should
already
be
members
of
the
community.
I,
don't
know
that
we
said
anything
about
how
you
know
if,
if
you're
an
actual
member
of
the
community
I,
don't
think
it
matters
how
new
you
are
it's
just
you
shouldn't
have
been
brought
in
specifically
to
come
and
vote
on
this
proposal.
A
I
think
that
was
the
idea
good
I'm
actually
going
to
skip
ahead
guys
because
I
feel
bad
that
I'm
keeping
our
new
members
here
waiting
so
long,
so
I'm
going
to
skip
ahead.
I
want
to
have
them,
introduce
themselves
and
maybe
have
a
chance
to
ask
some
questions
and
then
we'll
go
back
up
in
our
agenda
and
pick
up
where
we
left
off.
So
I
want
to
welcome
Allison,
Carolina
and
ajir
I.
Don't
know
if
I'm
pronouncing
that
right,
I'm,
sorry
Allison.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself.
G
Sure
hi
everyone,
thanks
for
having
a
town
hall
here,
I
came
to
the
new
members
event
last
week,
so
I'm
an
assistant
professor
at
Oakland
University
in
Rochester
Michigan
a
little
bit
north
of
Detroit
and
I-
am
a
professor
of
engineering.
So
I
have
a
bioengineering
students
who
are
very
interested
in
prosthetics
and
at
Oakland
University.
G
We
have
Orthotics
and
Prosthetics
program,
and
so
we're
really
excited
to
potentially
work
with
them
to
get
locally
some
recipients
who
are
in
need
of
these
devices
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
join
and
participate
as
much
as
I
can
to
learn
as
much
as
I
can
about
the
the
group
itself
and
then
how
I
can
get
involved.
A
Well,
I'm
glad
you
had
a
chance
to
hear
the
part
that
Adam
just
shared,
because
it
sounds
like
we
have
some
better
chances
of
connecting
you
with
some
recipients.
Now
you
mentioned
local
recipients,
that's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
challenge,
and
I'd
have
to
say
that
for
local
recipients,
that
probably
is
going
to
fall
more
to
you.
A
What
we
can
do
is
probably
offer
some
suggestions
of
how
you
might
go
about
doing
that,
but
it
really
is
just
a
simple
matter
of
getting
the
word
out
in
your
local
community
you're
already
with
a
school.
You
know
we
often
tell
people
that
schools
are
a
good
place
to
start
just
because,
statistically
speaking,
most
schools
are
going
to
have
at
least
a
handful
of
people
in
their
student
population
with
limb
differences
that
might
be
able
to
benefit
from
these
devices.
You
can
also
you
know,
put
up,
you
know
we
have.
A
We
have
some
printable
materials.
They
might
be
a
little
bit
out
of
date
now,
but
I
think
they're
still,
probably
pretty
usable.
So
we
have
a
collection
on
Google
Drive
that
we
can
share
with
you
of
just
like
posters
and
things
like
that
that
you
can
print
and
maybe
customize,
if
you
want
put
up
in
maybe
local
libraries
things
like
that,
maybe
even
article
in
your
local
newspaper
they're
often
happy
to
carry
stories
about
this
kind
of
work,
and
just
things
like
that.
Anything
that
you
can
do
to
get
out
the
word
locally.
A
Religious
organizations
are
often
a
good
point
too.
You
know
if
you
go
to
a
church
or
a
synagogue
or
anything
like
that,
sharing
what
your
work
is.
There
can
also
be
a
good
place
to
find
families
that
might
benefit
from
this
sort
of
thing.
So
it's
really
just
kind
of
a
matter
of
organically
getting
the
word
out
in
the
community
and
inevitably
you're
going
to
find
your
way
to
people
there
that
that
could
benefit
in
that
area.
A
B
I
suspect
that,
sometime
in
the
future,
the
omniscient
and
ubiquitous
Adam
Jennings
is
going
to
provide
some
kind
of
guidelines
for
outreach
to
local
organizations
that
might
provide
access
to
potential
recipients.
The
whole
the
Fine
Art
of
Outreach,
offering
help
not
intimidating
and
not
discounting
the
value
of
professional
help
is
an
art
that
we're
still
developing.
It
turns
out
to
be
a
delegate
Act
of
diplomacy
to
have
people
welcome
amateurs
producing
non-medical
grade
devices,
which
may
nonetheless
feel
really
important
needs
that
medical
professionals
don't
fail.
A
We
yeah-
we
haven't
really
talked
about
that
here,
but
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
up,
because
what
we're
talking
about
here,
Allison
is,
is
doing
a
better
job
of
connecting
with
the
actual
medical
community
with
the
prosthetists,
the
OTS
Etc.
That
already
are
working
with
people
who,
maybe
maybe
they
can't
they
don't
have
the
insurance
coverage
or
can't
afford.
You
know
a
a
you
know
professionally
produced
you
know
device.
G
Yeah,
that
sounds
that
all
sounds
great.
That's
I
was
just
talking
to
our
director
of
our
onp
program
and
she
had
the
similar
concerns,
but
being
now
on
the
academic
side,
after
30
years
of
clinical
practice
kind
of
understood
where
I
was
coming
from
from
an
amateur
perspective
and
was
able
to
appreciate
both
sides.
But
she
brought
up
very
similar
comments.
So
she's
gonna
do
some
some
reaching
within
her
network
to
try
to
find
us
some
local
recipients
as
well.
B
C
I
I
don't
want
to
belabor
anything
and
I,
don't
want
to.
You
know,
suck
up
oxygen,
but
hi
Allison,
good
good,
to
see
you
again
really
quickly.
I
think
that
you'll
also
find
a
little
bit
of
a
generational
Gap
in
the
onp
community,
that
you
know
professional,
orthodist
and
process
prosthetists
in
terms
of
openness
to
accepting
open
source,
Printing
and
Manufacturing
techniques
as
a
sort
of
stop
gap
or
as
a
Fail-Safe
for
folks
who
are
following
through
the
cracks.
C
You'll
find
I
think
that
younger
process
are
much
more
open
to
this
kind
of
thing.
So
as
a
kind
of
I,
don't
know
a
low
rent
suggestion.
If
you
were
to
find
someone
who
was
newer
to
depression
or
if
you
have
the
ear
of
students
in
your
community,
I
think
that
they're
going
to
be
much
more
excited
about
this
as
a
potential
I
think
you'll
also
find
at
the
risk
of
white
nighting
a
little
bit
you'll
find
that
people
are
going
to
be
much
more
open
to
this.
C
If
you're
not
looking
for
local
recipients
and
aren't
and
again,
this
is
maybe
a
little
self-serving.
But
if
you're
looking
for
opportunities
abroad,
where
facilities
and
infrastructure
don't
already
exist,
to
support
the
amputee
Community
I
mean
there
are
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
16
million
amputees
globally,
who
do
not
have
any
access
to
Prosthetics
care.
C
So
most
of
those
people
do
not
live
in.
You
know
Europe
and
the
states,
so
just
food
for
thought.
A
Excellent
well,
thank
you
for
joining
us
Allison
and
please
join
anytime.
These
Town
Halls
are
always
open
to
everyone
and
we're
happy
to
help
whenever
we
can
Carolina.
If
you're
there.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself.
F
Yes,
sir
hi
I'm,
Carolina
I'm,
currently
a
student,
so
I'm
clinical
Engineering
in
Portugal.
F
F
F
A
You
so
good
to
have
you,
and
it's
always
nice
when
we
get
people
with
these
really
special
skills
who
can
actually
help
us
improve
designs
and
that
sort
of
thing
just
in
I,
I,
I,
hope
I'm,
not
telling
you
things.
You
already
know
here,
but
pretty
much.
Every
design,
that's
in
our
catalog,
is
open
source
completely
free
for
anybody
to
use
work
with
modify
improve
upon.
Some
of
these
Divine
designs
have
the
full
CAD
models
available,
so
you
can
even
download
you
know
fully.
A
You
know
solid
body,
CAD
models
and
work
with
those,
and
there
are
some
working
groups
that
work
together
to.
If,
like,
for
example,
next
week
we
have
a
bionic
Design
Group,
that's
going
to
be
meeting
next
Friday
and
they
work
on
some
of
those
power
designs
and
and
trying
to
improve
those
options.
So
there's
I
think
there's
lots
of
opportunities
for
you
to
contribute.
John
I
see
you
have
your
hand
up
to.
B
Yeah
Carolina
pleased
to
meet
you
I'm,
going
to
be
giving
a
speech
about
enable
in
Lisbon
the
end
of
November,
beginning
of
December
and
I
have
been
to
Lisbon
once
before,
but
I
understand
that
there
is
a
naval
activity
there
and
I'm
eager
to
find
out
more
about
it.
So
I'm
going
to
put
my
email
right
here
in
the
chat
and
I
would
love
your
help
figuring
out
how
to
make
good
use
of
my
time,
while
I'm
there
I'm
allowing
some
extra
time
for
travels
within
Portugal
or
elsewhere
in
Europe.
C
B
That
was
a
joke.
Oh
all,
right.
A
Okay,
I'm
sure
I'm
not
pronouncing
this
right.
Is
it
azir
help
me
out
on
how
to
pronounce
your
name?
Please
that's.
D
Right
HIV
good
morning,
good
evening,
everybody,
my
name,
is
azer
and
I've
been
working
in
the
I.T
industry
in
quite
some
time.
I
basically
work
as
a
cloud
architect
with
Oracle
at
the
moment
and
yeah
I
I've
come
across
enabled
I
saw
a
lot
of
projects
and
I
felt
I
know
I
should
you
know,
volunteer
what
was
because
I
have
that
I.
D
Couldn't
you
know
help
with
the
couple
of
reasons
that
I
have
you
know
thought
about
this
one
is,
of
course
you
know,
I'm
a
contributor
to
my
own
local
communities.
Here,
I
I
live
in
Hamilton,
closer
to
Toronto
in
Canada
and
my
my
best
friend's
son.
He
he
has
walking
disability
and
it's
by
birth
and
he
immigrated
recently
from
India
and
he
used
to
order
some
parts
from
the
States
before,
but
they
were
really
expensive
and
yeah.
D
That's
that's
the
reason
why
he
moved
in
here
and
yeah
I
just
want
to
see
how
best
I
could
you
know
put
my
you
know,
technical
expertise
in
whatever
way
possible
for
this
project
and
also,
if
you
know,
if
it's
possible,
if
I
could
work
or
any
you
know,
projects
with
respect
to
Prosthetics
to
help
him
that'd
be
really
great.
A
Well,
it's
great
to
have
you
as
Aaron.
You
can
certainly
get
involved
with
projects
related
to
the
the
Prosthetics
and
the
designs,
but
I
would
probably
be
even
more
excited
to
see
you
involved
on
the
I.T
side,
because
we
have
some
real
needs
for
help
with
our
infrastructure.
A
Absolutely
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
details
today.
Only
because
limitations
of
time
I
would
love
to
talk
with
you
another
time.
Maybe
we
could
even
have
a
one-on-one
session,
but
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
sort
of
management
has
kind
of
fallen
into
my
lap.
There
were
some
other
people
helping
who
have
kind
of
Gone
other
directions
and
I
could
really
use
some
help.
A
For
example,
most
of
our
online
assets
right
now
are
hosted
on
Azure
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
that
that
I'll
explain
to
you
another
time.
I
would
love
to
try
to
get
things
into
a
better
situation,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
minimizing
costs
and
making
it
easier
to
manage,
and
just
a
bunch
of
other
things
that
I
would
I
would
love
to
discuss
with
you
when
when
there's
some
time,
so
maybe
you
and
I
could
predict
I'm
going
to
put
my
email
in
the
chat
here.
A
F
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
great
to
have
you
here
and
I
I
look
forward
and
Louise
site
you're,
not
a
you're,
not
a
new
participant!
I
you've
been
a
long
time
volunteer.
But
since
you
haven't
been
with
us
here
in
a
town
hall
in
a
while,
maybe
you
could
sort
of
reintroduce
yourself
and
say
hello.
A
E
E
Problems
with
the
connection
here
and
well,
I
am
from
Venezuela.
Okay,
we
recently
began
enable
chapter.
We
are.
E
We
are
working
with
high
school
students,
we
are
I,
am
a
I
am
an
architect,
but
I
am
trying
to
work
this
at
a
at
a
high
school
okay,
where
we're
working
with
an
edu
and
we're
trying
to
teach
students
how
to
make
build
purpose
and
use
the
3D
printer
to
purpose,
and
recently
our
Makerspace
got
to
to
3D
prints,
and
we
found
that
this
project
would
be
perfect
to
engage
with
the
students
and
help
a
lot
of
people
that
in
Venezuela
have
absolutely
no
access
to
any
sort
of
Prosthetics.
E
So
right
now
we
are
helping
three
people.
E
They
are
trans
radial,
amputees
they
they.
What
we
have
found
is
that
most
of
the
amputees
here
are
traumatic
amputations
and
the
the
need
for
the
arm,
like
the
unlimited
arm
or
the
quaglu
I.
Think
it's
the
name
we
already
built
three
arms
and
we've
had
a
little
problem
with
the
shirt
residual,
the
short
residual
limb
and
we
are
trying
to
make
something
that
helps
with
the
leverage.
We
are
working
like
like
a
little
cone
that
would
function
as
a
socket
and
I.
E
Don't
know
if
there,
if
you
have
any
experience
with
this
and
we
are
trying,
we
are
right
now
trying
to
print
the
quaglu,
but
we're
still
not
finished.
We
have
found
a
little.
We
have
found
it
a
little
bit
harder
to
to
work
to
print
and
to
assemble
it.
A
Heard
that
before
it's
wonderful
to
have
you
here,
Louise
and
it's
great
work
that
you're
doing
I,
don't
know
that
I
was
fully
aware
of
of
the
situation
and
the
lack
of
access
there
in
Venezuela
I've
heard
similar
things
about
the
quavo
arm
being
a
little
bit
more
difficult.
I
don't
have
experience
with,
in
fact
any
of
the
arm
designs.
Unfortunately,
I
just
haven't
gotten
into
that
myself.
A
Does
anyone
else
here
and
John
I
see
you
have
your
hand
up?
Do
you
have
any
advice
to
offer
here.
E
B
I
worked
with
Chang
Liu
a
few
years
ago
to
develop
to
adapt
a
different
kind
of
socket,
which
goes
behind
the
elbow
and
fits
very
firmly
on
the
elbow.
Now.
It
limits
the
ability
to
move,
but
it
at
least
takes
the
pressure
off
the
off
the
flesh.
And
so
that's
something
to
consider
is
a
special
socket
that
fits
around
the
elbow.
B
And
then
then
you
have
another
question
which
is:
maybe
they
don't
have
enough
musculature
in
order
to
actually
manipulate
the
arm?
It's
still
a
valuable
cosmetic
thing
to
have
an
arm,
and
there
have
been
some
designs
where
you
can
put
a
a
latch
on
the
elbow
so
that
they
can
use
their
existing
arm
to
adjust
it
to
a
position
that
they
want.
B
E
Actually,
the
the
case
with
one
of
the
people
where
the
we
want
to
play,
guys
who
are
helping
he's,
he's
adult
and
he's
so
happy
he's
so
happy
just
I
mean
he's
having
difficulty
to
moving
it,
but
he's
so
happy
just
what
for
the
aesthetic
part
you
know
for
the
and-
and
he
just
feels
it's
so
important
for
me,
you
know
to
Feel
Complete
to
have
balance
and
even
though
he
he
still
has
trouble,
because
he
also
has
a
short
residual
limb.
But
he
that's
you
know.
B
A
And
another
thing
to
think
about:
is
you
know
if
we,
if
there's
not
enough
like
for
the
risk
driven
devices?
If
there's
not
enough
Anatomy
past
the
risk,
you
basically
move
to
an
ARM
device
and
use
the
elbow
if
there's
not
enough,
Anatomy
there
at
the
elbow
to
provide
the
leverage,
you
move
the
next
step
up
to
a
shoulder,
actuated
device,
and
there
are
some
options
with
a
harness
where
you
know
you
can
use
the
shoulder
movement
to
actuate
the
device.
Instead,
that
might
be
worth
considering.
A
A
All
devices
it's
down
here
under
it's
got
a
special
category
here,
niop
modules
and
it's
it's
a
little
complicated,
which
is
why
it
hasn't
been
well
adopted.
But
if
you
browse
through
here,
if
you
go
to
the
main
niop
category
here,
there's
a
link
here
for
getting
started
and
there's
also
a
device
wizard
to
kind
of
help.
You
find
your
way
to
the
right
design,
but
there
is
information
in
here
about
these,
including
all
you
can.
A
B
F
B
B
Actually,
I
will
post
into
the
forum
I'll
post
into
the
forum
and
I'll
flag.
Your
name
are.
D
A
A
E
Thank
thank
you
for
all
the
support
because
of
this.
This
is
very
important
for
people
like
me
that
have
no
experience
on
prosthetic
previous
work
and
we
can
try
and
we
can
help
people
because
of
all
the
open
source
and
all
the
support
that
you
guys
give.
So
thanks
a
lot.
A
Excellent
okay!
Well,
thank
you
all
for
joining
it's
so
nice
to
see
so
many
new
or
returning
members
here
in
the
town,
hall
and
you're
always
welcome
to
join
us.
For
these
same
time,
every
week,
I'm
just
going
to
jump
back
up
and
pick
up
where
we
left
off,
then
we're
just
looking
at
some
of
the
posts
from
The
Hub
this
week.
So
this
next
one
is
from
rishabh.
Let's
see
what
this
is.
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
review
these
in
advance.
A
Today,
I'm
sorry,
so
rashab
held
a
workshop
yesterday,
where
they
assembled
a
number
of
unlimited
arms.
You
still
need
to
string
a
number
of
the
arms
we
used,
the
0.5
millimeter
hundred
pound
fishing
line
recommended
in
the
stringing
video
for
some
and
the
string
provided
in
the
kits
for
others.
The
0.5
millimeter
fishing
line
seems
to
be
very
strong,
but
limits
the
functionality
of
the
arm,
while
the
string
provided
in
the
kit
seems
more
functional,
but
I'm
worried
about
the
strength
as
they
look
quite
fragile.
A
Okay,
so
I
assume
he's
referring
to
the
kits
that
my
company
offers
and
I
I
will
say
that
those
strings
are
quite
strong.
They
are
well
I,
don't
know
that
it's
100
pound,
but
it
is
80
pound
test
line.
If
I
recall
correctly
that
we're
using
so
I
mean
80,
pounds
should
I
would
think
be
plenty
strong
for
typical
usage
of
these
devices.
A
I
have
I
mean
I've,
been
using
that
in
devices
I've
made
for
years
and
I've
never
seen
I've
seen
breakage
elsewhere,
but
not
the
strings.
So
I
would
think
that
it's
certainly
strong
enough,
but
he's
asking
if
anyone
has
recommendations
on
a
better
balance
between
functionality
and
strength.
So
does
anybody
else
know
of
Alternatives
of
good
strong,
thin
lines?
I
know
people
have
talked
about
various
types
of
fishing
kind
of
leader
line,
but
I
don't
know
that
I
have
the
specifics
to
recommend
something
in
particular.
B
Not
really,
you
know,
there
are
braided
lines.
A
Yeah
I
I
mean
I
would
say:
maybe
do
some
testing
I'm
saying
this
to
rishab.
You
know
with
the
string
that
we
include
in
our
kits.
You
might
find
that
it's
stronger
than
you
think,
because
I've
never
heard
any
issues
reported
with
breakage,
that
is,
it
was
selected
specifically
because
of
the
strength
and
like
I
said,
if
I
recall
correctly,
it's
an
80
pound
test
line
that
we
use.
A
So
maybe
you
know
build
a
test
rig
or
you
know,
just
just
put
put
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
pressure
on
it
and
see
see
how
it
holds
up.
Maybe
you'll
be
pleasantly
surprised
with
just
sticking
with
that
and
if
and
by
the
way,
I'd
be
happy
to
point
people
to
the
source
of
of
what
we
get
and
where
we
get
it
from,
we
all
buy
all
that
stuff
for
the
kids
in
bulk.
A
It
comes
on
really
kind
of
a
big
reel,
but
it's
as
I
recall,
it's
not
all
too
expensive.
So
if
you
want
to
just
get
a
whole
big
reel
of
that
for
yourself,
I'd
be
happy
to
point
you
to
where
we
get
ours
from
also
a
recommendation
to
the
unlimited
arm
design
team.
Just
like
we
have
a
3D
printed
mold
for
the
armlet
portion
of
the
hand.
So
we're
talking
about
the
cuff,
the
part
that
goes
over
the
forearm.
A
It
would
be
very
useful
to
have
a
printed
mold
for
the
forearm
portion
and
I.
This
is
an
interesting
point,
because
I've
heard
that
the
arms
can
be
very
challenging
the
thermoform
properly
and
he
says,
having
a
separate
mold
for
the
right
and
left
hand
would
decrease
the
building
time
considerably
and
also
improve
the
strength
that
is
of
the
design
is
constant.
Heating
of
the
pla
part
during
the
assembly
probably
reduces
the
overall
durability
of
the
finished
product.
A
So
that's
a
really
interesting
idea,
I,
as
I
think
about
it
and
again
I'm
not
very
experienced
with
these
arm
designs,
but
when
I'm
picturing,
the
unlimited
arm
it
kind
of
has
a
almost
like
a
wrap
around
it.
It's
it's
not
like
the
cuff.
A
On
the
Phoenix
hand,
where
it
just
kind
of
lays
over
something
it
kind
of
wraps
around
the
arm,
if
I
recall
and
so
I'm
just
wondering,
if
that's
something
that
I
guess,
you
could
build
a
a
sort
of
a
template
mold
for
that,
even
if
it's
something
that
you
had
to
kind
of
wrap
it
around
I,
just
don't
I,
don't
know
that
anybody
has
really
done
that.
But
it's
really
an
interesting
idea
to
provide
kind
of
a
a
thermo-forming
template.
That
team
is
last
I.
A
Last
I
heard
the
primary
team
on
that
design
is
still
team,
unlimited
they're
out
in
the
UK.
We
don't
often
have
communication
with
them.
I,
don't
know
that
they're
active
in
the
hub,
so
I
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
actually
receive
this
I
might
suggest
and
again
I'm
hoping
that
we
might
have
a
chance
to
post
links
to
these
parts
of
our
recordings
today
on
these
these
posts
as
comments.
A
But
if
you
actually
go
to
the
team
unlimited
website
which
I'm
not
sure
I
recall
the
address
for
let's
see
here,
it
is
teamunlimited
dot.
Org
I
would
suggest
that
you
use
their
contact
page
and
reach
out
to
them
directly
to
provide
this
feedback,
because
if
it's
just
something,
that's
posted
in
the
hub,
like
this
I
I
kind
of
doubt,
they're
going
to
see
it,
so
we
might
want
to
reach
out
to
them
because
I
think
that's
a
really
good
idea.
B
Jeremy
I'm
playing
I,
see
that
you're
taking
notes
and
thank
you
because
I
could
have
helped,
but
I
didn't.
But
I
am
recording
this
on
fathom
and
I've
highlighted
a
couple
of
Snippets
of
video,
which
I
will
attach
to
the
relevant
Hub
posts.
A
Oh,
that
would
be
really
helpful.
Thank
you.
John
yeah
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
would
have
a
chance
to
get
back
to
that.
So
that's
great
and
the
last
post
here
we
have
is
from
Wes
Newby
here
in
Southern
California
I'm
having
trouble
getting
an
understanding
of
how
I
get
started
as
a
volunteer
maker.
How
does
one
determine
Community
needs?
Where
can
I
look
for
clients
in
need
of
these
Services?
How
much
demand
is
there
for
these
Services
when
we're
tired
and
have
time
to
I
have
time
to
devote
to
this?
A
A
Well,
yeah,
so
Sarah
already
welcomed
him.
There's
plenty
you
can
do
feel
free
to
send
me
a
message
and
I'll
buy
you
our
next
Zoo
meeting
for
new
members,
okay,
good!
Hopefully
we'll
get
him
into
one
of
the
new
member
meetings.
I!
Think!
That's
a
good
start!
A
We
have
long
recognized
the
need
to
do
a
better
job
with
onboarding
our
new
volunteers
and
helping
them
to
find
their
way
to
the
information
they
need
to
get
started.
This
is
something
that
I
think
will
greatly
improve
if
we
can
get
this
proposal
going
for
engaging
with
wildmont,
because
that's
I'm
sure
going
to
be
a
core
part
of
you
know,
one
of
their
their
kind
of
core
goals
is
improving
member
engagement,
and
so
this
would
certainly
seem
to
be
a
big
part
of
that.
A
So
Wes
hang
in
there
bear
with
us.
We
have
a
lot
of
good
things
in
the
works,
but,
as
of
now
I
think
getting
into
one
of
these
new
member
meetups
and
being
able
to
talk
more
interactively,
there
would
be
a
really
good
Next
Step.
Anybody
else
have
advice
for
Wes
in
getting
started.
C
Yeah
I
I,
don't
have
advice,
I
mean
honestly.
This
is
this
is
kind
of
the
thing
that
I
I
intended
to
address
when,
when
joining
enable
into
capacity
that
I
find
myself,
it's
it's
a
really
complex
thing
and
I
think
that
I
think
we're
really
getting
close
to.
Finally
having
the
right
mix
of
resources
and
time
to
start
developing
some
guidelines
here,
I
know
that
Sarah
sent
me
an
email
from
someone.
C
She
forwarded
an
email
with
who
was
it
one
of
our
regular
contributors,
I'm
going
to
see
if
I
can
find
it?
Oh,
it's
Brent,
John
I
think
you
were
well
Brent,
hollers,
yes,
so
I
think
Brent
do.
A
C
Yes,
it
looks
like
he's
interested
in
addressing
this
specifically
like
developing
some
kind
of
onboarding
guidelines.
I
know
that
that's
really
solidly
within
wild
months
Wheelhouse
in
terms
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
we're
interested
in
producing
I'm,
just
setting
some
standard
processes
in
place
and
making
sure
people
have
the
education
I
think
building
something
like
a
more
easily
accessible
and
you
know
readily
apparent
knowledge
base
so
that
new
members
and
old
members
can
access
it
contribute
to
it,
and
you
know,
have
a
little
bit
more
to
go
off
of.
A
A
We
never
really
kind
of
took
it
across
the
Finish
Line
as
far
as
kind
of
promoting
this
and
and
making
sure
that
people
find
their
way
to
this
page,
but
it
is
still
I
think
a
very
helpful
resource
that
wears
out
kind
of
how
to
use
the
Hub
it
talks
about
our
governance.
It
talks
about
some
of
the
common
questionaries
and
then
basically
instructions
for
getting
started
by
roll.
If
you
want
to
get
started
as
a
maker
as
a
chapter
as
a
device
recipient
as
a
school,
that's
awesome
so.
A
A
Okay,
okay,
well
moving
on,
then
our
next
recurring
meeting
is,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
our
bionic
Design
Group
next
Friday
that'll
be
immediately
following
the
town
hall.
So,
if
anyone's
interested
in
the
powered
devices
bionic
devices,
things
like
that,
please
join
for
that
and
you'll
find
the
details
in
the
HUB
on
the
calendar
and
moving
into
our
discussion
topics
as
we
are
just
about
out
of
time
here,
all
I
really
have
a
chance
to
do
before
we
wrap
up.
A
Here
is
kind
of
sum
up
where
we're
at
on
the
wildmont
proposal,
and
let
me
just
see
because
it
might
have
even
changed
within
the
last
few
minutes
here
for
all
I
know.
There
has
been
active
voting
and
oops
I
have
to
find
my
way
back
to
the
right
page
here.
A
And
polls.
A
Okay,
so
as
of
now,
we
have
18,
agree,
votes
and
two
disagree
votes
and
what
that
means
are
so
our
voting
rules
currently
are
as
follows.
To
be
approved.
Each
project
proposal
must
have
at
least
20
total
votes,
so
we
have
met
that
Benchmark
with
at
least
80
percent
of
the
total
votes
in
sport
of
the
project
we
have
80
percent
10
or
more
disagree.
Votes
would
require
discussion
on
town
hall
meeting.
A
So
as
of
now,
we
are
sitting
right
at
10
disagree,
which
means
that
if
we
don't
get
any
more
votes
and
it
stays
exactly
as
it
is
now
in
next
week's
Town
Hall,
we
would
have
to
have
a
discussion.
So
the
vote
is
set
to
end
next
Thursday.
We
would
not
finalize
any
decisions.
We
would
just
let
it
wait
until
the
following
day,
so
that
we
could
allow
for
a
conversation
in
the
town
hall
and
then
I
guess
during
that
town
hall.
A
My
guess
is
that
between
now
and
then
we're
going
to
get
a
handful
more
votes
and
they
will
probably
push
us
over
that
threshold
so
that
we
will
not
be
in
that
position.
But
that's
where
we
stand
right
now,
a.
A
Figured
and
I
just
posted
something
this
morning
in
the
hub,
inviting
people
to
please
jump
over
and
vote
if
they
haven't
already
and
I.
Think
that
led
to
one
or
two
new
votes
as
of
this
morning,
so
yeah
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
see
a
few
more
and
so
we'll
revisit
this
next
week.
But
it's
looking
really
good
I'd
say
it's.
It's
very,
very
likely
that
this
will
pass.
B
C
Well,
let
me
just
say
really
quickly
on
the
subject
of
the
kind
of
work
the
wildmont
will
be
doing
and
if
there
is
no
wild
want
that
I
will
be
doing
at
a
you
know:
solar
Pace,
the
discussion
that
we
had
the
new
member
meet
up
last
week
with
Chad
Lehman,
with
makers
making
change
was
really
exciting
and
I'm
hoping
to
work
with
Chad
in
the
coming
months
to
boost
both
the
state
assistant
technology
act,
state
champion
thing
that
we've
been
trying
to
get
going,
which
I
think
actually
has
a
lot
of
traction,
and
also
some
news
on
this
rehab
engineering
front
in
terms
of
giving
more
people
more
things
to
do.
C
I
think
that
a
partnership
between
enable
and
makers
making
change
could
be
really
exciting
and
really
supercharge.
This
so
more
on
that
later,
but
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
that
these
are
all
things
that
are
currently
in
the
works
guys.