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A
Live
okay,
it
says
we're
live
so
now.
I
can
officially
welcome
all
of
you
to
this
week's
town
hall,
and
hopefully
we
have
some
people
watching
on
the
live
stream
as
well
as
the
folks.
Here
we
do
have
that
as
usual
in
the
hub.
The
link
and
everyone
is
welcome
to
join
in
via
the
comments
on
the
youtube
live
page.
We
have
those
we'll
have
those
momentarily
up
on
screen
here.
We'll
keep
an
eye
on
that.
A
I'm
actually
gonna
go
ahead
and
do
that
now
share
my
screen
and
get
our
notes
up
here.
Chat.
Okay,
so
we
have
in
the
in
the
lower
right
corner.
Here
is
the
chat
from
youtube
you
guys
might
want
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
zoom
chat
separately.
We
do
use
that
a
good
deal
during
these
meetings
and
then
we'll
go
through
our
notes
here
today.
So
do.
A
Yeah,
it's
in
the
it's
always
in
the
post
on
the
hub,
but
I'll
put
a
copy
of
the
link
in
here
too.
Okay,
great.
A
And
let's
see,
gonna
go
ahead
and
sk
normally
in
the
you'll.
See
right
here
in
the
in
the
notes
is
where
we
usually
do
introductions
of
new
folks,
and
I
would
introduce
our
friends,
allison
and
kevin
here,
but
I'm
gonna
hold
off
on
that
because
you
guys
are
kind
of
our
featured
guest
today,
so
we're
going
to
go
through
our
our
action
items.
A
Real
quick
cover,
a
couple
of
our
just
take
a
few
minutes
to
go
through
a
couple
of
things
here
and
then
we're
going
to
a
lot
more
time
to
talk
with
you
guys
we're
going
to
come
right
back
to
you.
So,
let's
quickly
go
through
action
items.
I
am
still
working
on
cleaning
up
our
evidence
requirements
as
bob
had
requested.
I
know
how
to
do
it.
Now.
It's
been
tested,
I've
done
it
on
a
few.
I
just
have
to
work
my
way
through
the
rest
and
that's
still
in
progress.
A
The
next
one
was
for
me
to
ask
masby
about
asynchronous
email
notifications,
and
this
has
to
do
with
being
able
to
do
push
notifications
to
our
mobile
devices,
which
we
might
be
able
to
do
using
google
tools.
If
we
were
getting
emails
more
quickly,
I
asked
masby
about
making
asynchronous
and
the
bottom
line.
Is
it's
not
an
option
based
on
the
way
home
hub
is
currently
built?
A
It
is
being
run
by
a
cron
job,
but
that
cron
job
is
running
every
minute
right
now,
so
it
might
actually
be
okay
for
what
we
want
to
do.
We
got
to
circle
back
with
who
actually
john,
who
was
that?
Was
it
alexander
alexander?
That
was
you
looking
at
doing
the
push
notifications
right,
yep,
okay,
so
maybe
knowing
that
a
crown
job
is
running
every
minute,
is
that
worth
pursuing?
I
mean
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
You'd
at
least
get
them.
You
know
within
a
minute.
A
A
A
Okay,
I'll,
follow
up
on
that
all
right.
So
today,
special
presentation-
or,
I
should
say
really
discussion
with
our
new
friends
allison
kevin.
We
should
get
two
momentarily
quickly
go
over
our
metrics
here,
I'm
not
going
to
spend
much
time
on
this.
Nothing
really
out
of
oh
wait.
A
second
I
got
to
refresh.
Why
is
this?
I
just
updated
this,
and
yet
it's
showing
me
last
week's
this
happened
last
time
too
some
kind
of
a
little
bug
here.
Sorry,
folks!
A
A
You
are
yeah,
it's
just
that
image
is
just
there
there's
only
one
instance
of
the
notes.
It's
just
the
image
all
right
so
anyway,
nothing
really
out
of
the
ordinary,
except
for
a
number
of
likes
for
some
reason.
There's
some
very
likable
content
on
the
hub
this
week,
so
we
had
49
likes,
but
otherwise
things
are
pretty
much
in
line
with
what
they
have
been
ben
and
bob
did
a
a
chapter
kind
of
a
re-audit
this
week,
and
so
the
number
of
chapters
did
drop
a
little
bit
from
199
to
195.
A
Just
because
there
were
a
couple
of
sort
of,
I
guess,
inactive
chapters
that
had
to
be
archived.
Otherwise
everything
is
pretty
pretty
common
all
right.
So
here
we
go.
I
want
to
welcome
allison
elliott
and
kevin
dardick.
Am
I
pronouncing
your
names
right.
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
the
team
for
those
of
you
who
are
watching
and
listening.
Who
might
not
be
aware.
These
are
our
new
interns
from
brandeis
university,
very
excited
to
have
you
with
us
and
we
wanted
to
have
a
chance
to
have
you
guys
introduce
yourselves
here.
These
are
our
weekly
town
hall
meetings.
We
are
live
streaming
these,
so
people
can
watch
either
real
time
or
after
the
fact,
and
just
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
what's
going
on.
A
This
is
kind
of
how
we
try
to
sort
of
gather
all
the
good
stuff
going
on
throughout
our
community
share
best
practices
share
stories.
Things
like
that,
so
this
is
we
wanted
to
give
you
guys
an
opportunity
to
sort
of
introduce
yourselves
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
background.
Maybe
your
areas
of
focus
for
study
and
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
you
know
what
you
are
gonna
be
up
to
here.
A
I
know
you've
already
had
some
discussions
with
with
ben,
and
so
maybe
we
should
start
start
with
allison.
How
about
alison
start
with
you.
D
D
I
do
have
some
experience
with
event
planning.
I
was
the
education
manager
of
an
organic
farm
for
almost
four
years
about
three
a
little
over
three
and
a
half
years,
and
I
planned
a
lot
of
on-farm
events
that
were
free
to
the
community
and
kind
of
boosted
their
social
media
and
worked
on
website
development
and
kind
of
put
them
on
on
the
map
a
little
bit.
So
I
have
experience
with
that.
I'm
also
a
board,
fellow
through
groundwork,
lawrence,
which
is
based
in
lawrence
massachusetts.
D
It's
a
non-profit
environmental
agriculture,
education,
youth,
empowerment
type
program
and
I'm
helping
them
plan
their
annual
event,
their
fundraising
event.
It's
called
their
glow
gala
and
then
another
event
planning
experience
that
I
have.
I
worked
with
three
other
committee
members
on
an
impact,
investing
and
esg
event
series
for
the
fall
semester
at
brandeis.
So
that's
all
going
to
be
virtual,
but
we
are
going
to
have
one
in-person.
D
Mixer
type
event
so
definitely
have
experience
there
and
in
regards
to
marketing
kevin,
and
I
both
took
a
marketing
course
over
the
summer,
and
I
actually
have
my
own
food
blog.
It's
called
the
farmer
foodie
and
I'm
doing
an
independent
study
project
this
semester,
where
I'm
going
to
be
working
on
like
website
development,
design,
social
media
development
and
kind
of
doing
a
lot
of
research
as
to
how
to
like
boost
a
business.
D
So
I
think
a
lot
of
that
will
kind
of
transfer
to
what
I'm
doing
with
you
all
at
enable,
and
so
I'm
excited
to
basically
like
help
enable
plan
organize
kind
of
all
the
marketing
materials
and,
like
event,
planning,
I
guess
just
like
event
planning
in
general.
That
could
be
transferable
from
like
one
location
to
another
kind
of
almost
like
a
tool
kit
for
future
use,
not
just
like
short-term
use.
D
A
A
E
About
yourself,
thank
you,
yeah
I'll.
Try.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
it's
great
to
meet
all
of
you.
I
am
the
onboarding
consultant,
so
I'll
I'll
be
taking
a
look
at
the
website,
both
the
hub
and
the
main
website,
and
trying
to
make
it
easier
for
new
volunteers
to
get
started
with
and
join
the
enable
community.
E
My
background
is,
I
studied
at
brandeis
for
undergrad
philosophy
and
physics,
and
I
was
a
science
journalist.
E
E
Nothing
no
worries
at
all
and
another
interesting
qualification
of
mine
is.
I
ran
the
satire
magazine
at
brandeis
for
three
and
a
half
years,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
herding
cats.
You
could
say
and
also
organizing
information
of
varying
types.
I
led
all
of
the
layout
for
the
magazine,
which
was
an
interesting
combination
of
satire
articles
and
other
types
of
media.
E
Yeah,
I
think
that's
all
of
my
main
qualifications
that
are
relevant
to
enable.
A
F
F
We
have
a
couple
of
great
candidates
and
they
have
been
exceedingly
well
prepared,
both
by
isabella
who
precedes
them
and
by
ben
who's,
really.
A
A
Yeah,
I
I
agree
really
nice
job,
ben
and
thanks
to
everyone
involved,
it's
it's
just
great
that
we
could
make
this
happen.
I
noticed
that
ben
put
ally
in
the
notes.
Instead
of
alison,
do
you
prefer
ali.
A
Okay,
good
to
know
all
right,
let's
see,
then
I
think
we
should
probably
then
get
into
some
of
our
other
topics.
Just
because
this
is
you
know
we
wanted
you
guys
to
be
a
part
of
all
this.
So
if
you
don't
mind
we'll
we'll
move
along
and
talk
about
some
of
our
other
discussion
topics
here
and-
and
I
it
sounds
like
I
know-
ali
you
mentioned-
that
you
plan
on
joining
these
kevin
are
are.
Is
this
something
that's
relevant
to
your
work?
E
B
Yeah,
it's
going
to
be
great
to
have
two
interns,
both
focusing
on
different
projects.
I
think
we're
all.
The
three
of
us
are
going
to
kind
of
coordinate
which
monthly
meetings
to
join-
and
you
know
maybe
some
kind
of
community
projects
that
we
can
work
on
together
and
build
towards
some
events,
obviously
picking
up
on
some
of
where
isabella
left
off
with
the
original
materials
and
and
sort
of
following
the
structure
that
she
had.
B
C
F
Probably
worth
mentioning
that
part
of
the
larger
agenda
is
that
ben
is
hoping
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
document
formalize
and
potentially
offload
many
of
the
many
of
the
repetitive
recurring
programs
that
he's
put
in
place,
which
have
turned
out
to
be
a
really
major.
I
think
contribution
of
our
oh.
A
F
A
little
central
group,
so
that's
going
to
hopefully
increase
our
resilience
because
it
won't
all
be
in
in
the
skill
set
of
one
person.
Well,.
B
And
that's
a
great
point,
john:
the
the
project
that
I've
been
working
on
with
enable
is
you
know
it's
aiming
to
be
a
sustainable
thing,
so
you
know
some
of
it
I've
a
lot
of
it.
I've
documented
especially
working
with
isabella,
but
it's
going
to
be
great
to
get
feedback
from
ali
and
kevin
going
through
the
semester
to
be
able
to
have
everything
that
we
need.
So
the
media
coordination
can
continue
as
a
fellowship
and
that's
something
that
we
had
approved
through
the
sp
earth,
actually
through
lumion
yeah.
B
But
it's
this
is
really
the
moment
for
pulling
that
stuff
together.
So
I'm
really
grateful
to
be
able
to
sort
of
put
a
bow
around
that
project
and
then
sort
of
see
what
develops
after
that
nice.
A
B
I
I
mentioned
it
briefly.
I
mean
I
there
is
something
about
getting
oriented
with
enable.
That's,
like
you
know,
jumping
into
cold
water,
there's
just
a
lot
of
information
all
at
once,
so
I
mentioned
it
as
being
something
that
would
be.
There
could
be
some
alignment
there,
especially
because
you
know
some
of
the
the
things
that
we're
we're
looking
at
developing
with
them.
B
I
think
will
inform
some
of
the
projects
that
we're
working
on
together
and
vice
versa,
but
I
I
figured
we'd
sort
of
ease
into
that
one,
because
that's
sort
of
a
marathon.
A
It's
marathon
and
we'll
continue
to
take
the
lead
on
it,
but
I
in
listening
to
their
backgrounds,
I
I
feel
like
we,
we
may
need
their
their
help.
In
the
shorter
term,
I
mean
with
what
kevin
was
saying
about
how
he
can
analyze
information
and
present
it
to
a
non-technical
audience.
It's
a
lot
of
what
we're
struggling
with
right
now
and
analyzing,
our
metrics
and
trying
to
average
finances
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
with
what
ally
does
with
you
know.
A
You
know
her
organizing
of
marketing
materials
and
outreach
and
event
coordination,
just
to
think
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
alignment
there.
I'm
not
saying
we
need
to
drag
them
into
that
today,
but
I
think
we
would
get
a
lot
of
value
about
figuring
out
how
to
get
them
involved
in
specific
parts
of
the
process
we're
going
through,
because
I
heard
a
lot
of
relevant
skills.
B
I
think
you're
right,
jeremy
and
and
maybe
what
we
can
try
to
do
this
next
week
is,
you
know,
pick
a
couple
projects
and
then
we
can
start
working
on
them
together,
but.
A
Sounds
good
yeah?
No,
I
think
you're
taking
the
right
approach
so
anyway,
just
a
quick
summary
for
anyone
who's
not
aware
goldman
sachs
approached
us.
They
said
they
have.
This
thing
called
the
analyst
impact
fund,
which
allows
their
analysts
to
put
forward
candidates
of
charitable
organizations
that
they
would
like
to
support.
They
go
through
this
whole
multi-phase
process
where
they
go
through
different
types
of
presentations
to
the
committee
with
the
final
winner
being
awarded
250
000,
but
there
are
25
award
slots
going
from
250k
down
to
2500,
and
so
we
are.
A
We
have
already
moved
into
phase
two,
so
we
are
no
longer
among
900.
We
are
now
among
300
and
100
of
these
300
will
move
to
phase
three.
So
that's
where
we're
at
right
now
we're
in
phase
two
preparing
the
presentation
that
will
determine
whether
we
make
it
to
phase
three
and
we're
feeling
we're
all
feeling
really
good
about
our
chances.
We
have
some
very
unique
differentiators.
We
can
really
leverage
their
funding
in
ways
that
I'm
not
sure
others
can
as
well.
A
So
we're
developing
answers
to
their
questions,
giving
them
all
the
information
they
need
to
prepare.
Those
slides
and
it's
going
well,
anyone
else
have
anything
to
add
to
that.
A
F
A
F
Okay,
so
the
basic
strategy
is
to
say:
we
have
this
amazing
big
network
and
internally
we
have
an
oversupply
of
makers
and
an
undersupply
of
recipients,
especially
in
the
united
states,
where
this
all
began
and
where
we
still
have
a
lot
going
on.
F
In
remote
lands
remote
to
us,
our
distributed
network
still
does
not
reach
a
lot
of
the
people
who
could
really
use
it,
and
what
we
do
do
and
continue
to
do
is
generate
huge
amounts
of
information
and
know-how,
which
is
mostly
available
in
the
language
of
the
creator,
even
though
we're
a
multinational
international
group.
Therefore,
the
approach
being
taken-
and
this
credit
for
this
goes
as
much
to
the
goldman
sachs
young
people
who
are
sort
of
taking
us
on
as
to
us.
A
three-pronged
approach
says
you
know.
F
First
of
all,
we
really
need
to
develop
a
way
to
get
our
offerings
out
to
those
who
need
the
most
that's
going
to
take
the
form,
probably
of
a
mobile
makerspace
specification
and
template,
which
we
would
like
to
install
in
one
refugee
camp
and
test
the
whole
process,
which
would
also
include
training
and
documentation.
So
the
people
who
really
need
this
and
may
not
even
have
internet
can
make
use
of
the
enable
network
and
all
of
its.
A
F
Secondly,
in
order
to
address
the
imbalances
which
vary
from
location
to
location,
between
a
supply
of
makers
and
a
supply
of
needful
potential
collaborators
and
recipients,
there's
going
to
be
a:
how
did
we
describe
it?.
A
A
F
Institution
liaison
right
so
we're
we're
a
network
we're
a
network
of
in
many
cases,
volunteers
and
non-organizations,
and
yet
there
are
many
organizations
and
ngos
and
medical
professionals
who
are
part
of
the
larger
ecosystem,
which
we
do
not
have
particularly
good
or
systematic
relations
with,
so
that
liaison
chip
role
exists
and
then,
as
a
third
leg
of
this
stool
there's
an
education
spot.
We've
realized
recently
that
fully
half
of
our
chapters
are
at
universities
and
high
schools
and,
of
course,
everything
as
we've
discussed
with
enable
involves
learning
and
education.
F
So
this
will
be
an
opportunity
to
really
try
to
organize
the
materials
similar
to
what
kevin
is
working
on
and
very
it
may
even
be
what
kevin
ends
up
contributing
to,
so
that
the
information
available
is
more
readily
available
to
all
of
our
volunteers.
A
F
A
That's
right,
number,
the
second,
the
second
leg.
Being
this
outreach
and
partnership
focus
this
liaison
that
can
help
establish
these
new
partnerships,
and
I
want
to
add
that
that's
really
important,
because
we've
done
a
great
job
of
getting
the
word
out
there
about
enable,
but
mostly
what
it's
done
has
brought
a
lot
of
volunteers
to
us
that
are
saying
hey.
A
I
need
people
to
make
devices
for
so
this
would
help
us
to
get
access
to
the
people
that
actually
need
our
services
and
then
the
third
prong
is
an
open
source
educational
hub
to
gather
and
coordinate
all
these
great
educational
materials
and
everything.
So
and
then
it
looks
like
ben
wanted
to
say
something.
B
I
was
going
to
mention
that
it
it's
sort
of
a
progressive
thing,
so,
if
you
imagine
you're
doing
programs
with
different
schools,
students
graduate
and
they're
working
in,
you
know,
let's
say
biomedical
engineers
or
maybe
working
in
in
different.
You
know
hospitals
or
clinics
or
something
like
that
they
can
be
helping
to
partner
with
some
of
these
professionals
to
help
guide.
Some
of
you
know
the
the
projects
and
the
evaluation
that
we
need
and
then
that
feeds
into
the
idea
of
being
able
to
have
a
a
recipe
for
a
clinic,
a
maker
clinic.
B
That
could
be
something
that
could
be
utilized
in
a
refugee
camp
or
sort
of
crisis
situation
response
and
that
again
feeds
back
towards.
You
know
it
cycles
back
to
informing
sort
of
the
the
valuable
things
that
we
want
to
be
teaching
new
folks.
A
You
know
I
always
I
I
love
these
processes,
because
I
feel
very
confident
that
we
will
end
up
being
awarded
something,
but
I
I
I
almost
don't
care
honestly
because
there's
so
much
value
just
in
going
through
this
process,
we
get
such
a
better
understanding
of
ourselves
and
what
we're
doing
and
where
we
need
to
focus
and
what
we
you
know.
So,
whether
or
not
we
win
the
award
we'll
come
out
of
this.
A
On
the
other
end
in
a
much
better
position
to
kind
of
know
where
we
need
to
focus
our
energies
and
we'll
still
be
able
to
move
forward
on
at
least
some
of
these
things.
So
I
I
love
going.
It
was
the
same
thing
with
what
isabella
did
in
her
internship.
I
mean
it.
It
was
so
helpful
to
me
in
getting
sort
of
an
outside
in
perspective
on
on.
You
know,
what's
sometimes
hard
to
see
when
you're
sort
of
sitting
inside
of
it
so
very
helpful.
A
Right
so
yeah
yeah,
absolutely
so
I'm
gonna
move
on
we'll
keep
you
guys
posted
on
how
that's
going,
but
so
far
so
good
and
next
topic
I
got
here-
is
animal
prosthetics.
This
is
something
that's
new
for
us,
kevin
and
ali
that
we've
always
focused
on
on
people
and
making
devices
for
people
primarily.
Although
we've
had
a
couple
of
volunteers
here
and
there
that
have
done
work
with
animals,
it's
just
never
really
been
a
coordinated
effort
within
the
community
and
and
we've
had
so
many
inquiries
from
people
through
our
help
desk.
A
Hey.
Can
you
help
my
you
know
dog?
Can
you
help
my
bird?
Can
you
help
my
there's
a
sloth
recently
turtles,
you
name
it.
They
need
there's.
You
know
animals
that
need
help
and
we
decided
you
know
hey.
We
have
all
these
volunteers
that
are
like
hungry
to
help
somebody
and
if
we
don't
have
people
for
them
to
help,
maybe
we
should
you
know,
get
going
with
the
animals,
so
we
are
finally
doing
more
of
a
coordinated
effort.
We
set
up
a
space
on
our
hub
for
this
we've
invited
people
to
join
us.
A
We've
started
to
collect
the
existing
open
source
designs
that
are
out
there
and
start
to
bring
those
in
alexander
who's
here
with
us
today
is
currently
working
on
kind
of
redesigning
and
reorganizing.
Our
enabled
design,
catalog
and
I've
asked
him
to
try
to
kind
of
incorporate
sort
of
an
area
for
animal
designs
in
there.
So
it's
just
it's
just
really
in
the
beginning
stages.
But
to
me
it's
very
exciting:
it's
a
nice
expansion
of
what
we
do.
B
You're
here
your
loudest
friends
are
animals
too
john.
The
was
I
gonna,
say.
Jeremy
mentioned
designs
again.
These
are
all
open
source
devices,
so
there's
different
makers
in,
and
chapters
in
different
places,
for
example
lars
and
germany
partnered
with
some
folks
at
a
zoo
and-
and
I
think
what
was
it
a
secretary
bird.
B
From
I
think
natively
from
somewhere
in
africa
on
the
the
plains,
but
he
developed
this
prosthetic
and
worked
with
that
team
and
and
got
a
lot
of
publicity
about
it.
But
yeah
there's
been
a
bunch
of
posts
recently
I'll
I'll
actually
share
with
you.
A
Since
ben
mentioned
the
you
know
he
got
on
the
topic
of
open
source
designs,
I'll
mention
that
there's
something
unique
about
us
that
you'll
learn.
If
you
look
through
our
design,
catalog
enable
per
se
does
not
own
any
of
these
designs.
There
is
no
enable
the
enable
does
not
legally
exist
as
anything
there
are.
Some
chapters
that
have
non-profits
but
enable
as
a
whole
does
not
exist
as
a
legal
anything,
and
so
each
of
the
designs
is
owned
by
whatever
individual
did
the
design.
A
So
our
design
catalog
has
a
whole
bunch
of
different
owners,
but
for
the
most
part
they
are
all
shared
as
some
form
of
open
source
license,
usually
creative
commons
share
alike.
Sometimes
non-commercial,
sometimes
not,
but
almost
all
of
them
are
creative
commons
share
alike,
so
you're
welcome
to
use
them
you're
welcome
to
change
them
just
give
credit
to
the
original
designer.
That's
how
most
of
these
work.
E
B
What
alexander
is
working
on
is
taking
those
open
source
designs
and
devices
and
then
being
able
to
zoom
in
to
some
of
the
there's.
There's
some
specific
things
related
to
the
engineering
of
different
designs
and
being
able
to
pull
those
sort
of
features
or
qualities
out
and
list
them
and
evaluate
them,
and
and
make
it
easier
for
other
engineers
to
sort
of
pick
up
pieces
where
others
left
off
is
that?
Does
that
sound
right,
alexander
ish.
A
Okay,
some
far
away
all
right,
let's
move
on
so
our
next
topic
here
is
just
case
related
stuff,
there's
just
a
placeholder
for
where
we
can
talk
about
things
that
are
related
to
specific
cases.
There
was
a
note
here
previously
just
about
the
fact
that
we
do
have
the
ability
to
build
out
custom
teams
within
enableweb
central
if
we
want
to
make
use
of
that,
that's
one
of
the
tools
within
our
community's
tool
set.
A
So
if
some
of
these
more
challenging
cases
that
we
have
need
more
than
one
person
with
different
skills,
we
can
build
out
those
custom
teams
in
enable
web
central.
Let
us
know
if
anyone
wants
to
do
that,
we'll
be
happy
to
help
you
bob
rieger,
especially,
would
be
the
one
to
help
with
that.
Specifically
right
now
we
have
a
challenging
case
that
we're
working
on
for
a
gentleman
named
bishnu,
and
we
talked
about
that
last
time.
A
Bob
is
taking
the
lead
on
this,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
this
now
I'll
leave
it
until
bob
is
back
with
us
to
give
us
an
update,
but
he's
he's
running
with
this
case
now-
and
I
don't
have
anything
else
here-
that's
specifically
case
related.
Does
anybody
else
have
any
specific
cases
going
on
that?
Are
that
need
to
be
discussed
here
that
you
might
need
help
with
or
anything
like
that?
A
Okay.
Moving
on,
I
got
a
topic
here
for
outreach
and
partnerships
which
I
don't
have
anything
here
right
now.
I
just
put
it
in
here
as
a
placeholder,
partly
because
of
our
project
that
we
have
going
on
now
with
goldman
sachs,
and
this
is
now
kind
of
an
area
of
focus
that
we
have.
So
I
think
there
will
be
discussion
here
and
we'll
we'll
start
capturing
notes
under
this
and
partly
because
of
ali
being
with
us,
I
think
she'll
be
very
relevant
to
you
know,
helping
us
to
start
make
some
some
movement
in
this
area.
F
I
do
there
are
some
relevant
meetings.
The
amputee
coalition
has
an
event
coming
up
and
allison.
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
you
looked
into
them
and
we
should
learn
from
what
they
do,
how
they
do
it
and
perhaps
establish
some
kind
of
a
relationship
it
may
or
may
not
be
too
late
to
make
a
presentation
at
their.
I
think
virtual
meeting,
but
it's
worth
looking
into.
B
B
That's
not.
I've
talked
to
a
couple
folks
about
collaborating
on
that
and
trying
to
get
that
going
once
a
month,
but
I
might
try
yet
again
in
september
and
see
if
I
can
find
somebody
to
to
come
and
speak,
but
it
does
seem
like
you
know
again,
you
talked
about
the
amputee
coalition.
I'd
love
to
have
more
events
for
folks
with
limb
difference.
The
audit
that
we
did
we've
it
looks
like
we've
got
a
well
it'd,
be
nice
that
yeah
spent
a
little
bit
more
energy
on
that.
So
that's
that's!
B
A
part
of
what
ally
and
kevin
have
in
the
orientation
materials
is
supporting
those
kinds
of
outreach
opportunities,
great
yeah.
A
I
like
it
all
right,
let's
move
along
here.
Our
next
topic
is
technical
stuff.
So
in
here
we
have
3d
scanning
cad
related,
we
kind
of
talk
about
tooling.
Sometimes
I
don't
think
I
have
anything
new
to
go
through
here,
we're
kind
of
capturing
some
3d
scanning
tools
and
techniques
that
might
be
useful
for
the
community,
we're
kind
of
talking
about
cad
tools
and
the
pros
and
cons.
We
had
an
excellent
presentation
just
last
week
from
andrew
and
ward
can
ben.
A
A
A
F
Well,
jeremy,
I
did
see
that
you
took
a
look
at
the
spentes
system.
F
Scanning
and
socket
making
system
with
a
really
nice
interface.
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
the
developers
and
I
think
they'd
be
happy
to
work
with
us,
but
it's
going
to
take
someone
perhaps
like
you,
jeremy,
to
really
interact
with
them
and
figure
out
how
we
can
adapt
it
for
what
we
do.
They're,
not.
A
I
was,
I
was
already
thinking
about
that
yeah
and
there
would
be
some
very
significant
challenges
in
adapting
it
to
what
we
do,
because
the
way
they're
using
it
making.
You
know,
I
don't
know
what
they're
called
braces.
You
know
something
that
just
goes
on
the
outside.
It's
all
one
piece,
so
they
their
software
actually
lets
you
like
move
the
limb
around
after
you
scan
it
and
stuff,
it's
amazing,
so
you
can
put
it
into
the
position
that
you
want
and
then
make
the
cast.
F
A
C
F
Be
that
we
use
it
for
the
brace
component
of
our
devices
and
then
we
work
on
adapters.
But
I
will
point
out
that
the
approach
that
the
collaborative
team
is
working
on
right
now
is
based
actually
on
taking
a
solid
object
and
then
merging
in
negative
spaces
which
breaks
it
up
into
several
pieces.
So.
A
You're
right,
it's
a
good
conversation
to
have
I'll.
If
you
can
make
an
introduction.
John
hook
me
up
with
the
right
person
I'll
drag
alexander
into
that
conversation
too.
Probably,
and
maybe
we
can
talk
with
them
and
see
what's
possible.
F
A
Okay,
our
next
topic
is
research
and
development,
mostly
a
placeholder
right
now,
because
I
know
alexander
has
some
very
exciting
plans
for
developing
our
research
and
development
capabilities
as
a
community.
But
right
now,
as
I
said,
he's
working
on
sort
of
organizing
and
should
say
reorganizing
our
design,
catalog,
which
will
sort
of
lay
the
foundation
for
some
of
the
other
r
d
work
he
wants
to
do.
Alexander.
C
Long
term,
I
think
enable
has
a
lot
of
people
and
a
lot
of
makers
and
technically
as
a
technically
enable
is
a
research
organization.
From
the
point
of
view
of
the
engineers
and
from
that
point
of
view,
we
have
a
lot,
and
I
mean
a
lot
of
manpower
and
we're
not
currently
organizing
any
r
d
initiatives,
meaning
that
most
of
the
engineers
end
up
redoing
other
people's
work,
simply
because
they
don't
know
about
it.
So
the
point
is
to
try
to
coordinate
everything
and
give
a
direction
not
necessarily
force
everybody
to
take
that
direction.
A
That's
right,
it's
all
about
visibility.
As
long
as
we
can
make
everyone
aware
of
what
everyone
else
has
already
done
or
is
working
on,
they
can
make
their
own
choices
from
there.
At
least
we
can
let
everyone
know
what's
going
on.
I
think
that
would
be
very
powerful,
so
anyone
else
have
anything
to
add
to
that
in
terms
of
r
d,
or
should
we
move
on.
C
Also
for
r
d,
we
would
pull
back
the
developments
done
by
other
chapters,
which
there
are
a
lot
of
chapters.
We
have
a
lot
more
people
than
we
have
on
the
hub.
Just
when
you
clarify
language
yeah,.
A
A
Somebody
needs
to
mute.
Please
we
are.
We
know
that
we
need
to
make
improvements
in
the
hub
to
make
it
easier
to
use
kevin.
We
are
going
to
have
a
lot
to
talk
to
you
about,
mr
regard
being
the
onboarding
sort
of
specialist.
The
question
is:
we've
heard
that
people
feel
a
little
overwhelmed.
They
have
a
hard
time
finding
what
they
need
in
the
hub.
That's
what
we
need
your
help
with
figuring
out.
How
can
we,
you
know,
modify
things
within
the
cut
within
the
limits
of
what
we
can
do.
A
There
are
definite
limits
with
the
hub.
What
can
we
do
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
find
their
way
and
get
to
what
they
need?
So
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
to
talk
about
here,
but
I
don't
know
that
there's
anything
to
talk
about
right
now,
unless
anyone
else
has
anything.
F
You
know
we
should
dig
up
and
dust
off
the
deloitte
materials
which
are
relevant
here.
They
did
a
good
job,
giving
us
some
advice,
only
some
of
which
have
we
actually
followed
through
on.
So
that
should
be
part.
A
A
They
actually
started
with
the
enabling
the
future
website,
given
that
that's
where
most
people
kind
of
find
their
way
to
initially,
and
so
they
were
looking
at
how
that
website's
laid
out.
What
do
they
see
on
that
home
page?
What
is
that
linked
to,
and
then
following
that
through
to
the
hub
and
to
enable
web
central
to
look
at
what
can
be
improved
in
those
ben.
B
This
this
was
something
that
isabella
did
spend
some
time
on
in
her
presentation.
She
sort
of
spells
out
how
much
of
a
I
don't
know
knotted
mess
some
of
our
websites
can
be,
but
that
might
be
a
good
place
to
start
and
then
go
into
enabling
the
future
and
the
deloitte
work
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
it
you
can
pick
a
string
and
just
it'll.
Take
you
really
far
away
from
where
you
started
from,
but
there's
there's
some
great
stuff
out
there.
A
And
I'll
just
mention
kevin
by
the
way,
as
you
start
going
through
this
you're,
going
to
come
across
things
that
are
problematic.
That
might
be
quick
fixes,
like
this
information
here
conflicts
with
this
information
here
or
whatever
reach
out
to
me
about
those
things,
I'm
admin
on
enabling
the
future
and
on
the
hub
and
on
enable
web
central.
So
I
can
make
changes
on
any
of
those
as
needed
very
quickly.
A
A
We've
got
a
a
placeholder
topic
here
for
governance,
and
really
this
was
just.
This
came
out
of
really
isabella's
presentation.
There
was
a
discussion
of
how
do
we
get
more
of
our
community
involved
in
this
process
right
here
I
mean
even
even
calling
it
governance
is
a
little
misleading
because
we're
not
governing
we're
not
setting
rules,
we're
it's
more
about.
How
do
we
get
them
involved
in
this
collaboration?
How
do
we
get
them
involved?
A
In
the
discussion,
how
do
we
get
more
people
involved
in
sharing
what
they're,
doing
and
and
learning
from
each
other,
and
just
you
know
getting
these
these
there's
so
much
good
work
being
done
throughout
this
community
that
we
don't
have
visibility
into
and
and
others
could
really
benefit
from,
and
that's
what
that's
what
these
are?
I
don't
know
how
I'll
love
to
come
up
with
a
better
word
than
governance,
but
that's
really.
What
we're
talking
about
here
is
getting.
How
do
we
get
more
of
the
community
involved
in
this
collaboration
and
sharing
process.
F
I
will
just
sort
of
nutshell
the
way
we've
come
to
understand
what
we
do:
allison
and
kevin
you're
gonna
you'll
notice
from
this
conversation
that
there
are,
as
ben
said,
all
of
these
tendrils
interconnecting
all
of
these
different
aspects
of
enable
which
are
valuable
in
their
own
right,
but
confusing,
collectively,
and
all
of
these
initiatives
that
we
would
like,
we
hope
to
organize.
F
But
we
claim
not
to
actually
do
real
governance.
Our
form
of
governance
is
what
we
call
a
duocracy,
and
our
method
is
more
like
a
gardening
than
it
is
like
anything
else.
F
We
try
to
cultivate
a
rich
and
fertile
space
in
which
the
right
kinds
of
things
can
happen,
but,
as
you
may
know,
if
you
insist
that
a
plant
grow
where
it's
not
supposed
to
grow,
it
will
just
die,
and
so
the
best
we
can
do
is
to
try
to
cultivate
and
structure
that
space
in
such
a
way
that
volunteers,
which
is
a
word
from
the
plant
world,
now
that
I
think
about
it,
will
pop
up
and
do
interesting
and
good
things.
F
There's
we
have
no
ability
to
coerce,
which
is
just
fine,
but
we
do.
I
think,
as
we
have
proven,
have
significant
ability
to
make
good
things
happen
in
a
non-coercive
way.
B
Right
not
to
mix
metaphors,
but
kevin
mentioned
earlier
herding
cats.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
john
and
I
have
used
in
presentations
is
it's
like
hurting
cats
and
birds.
At
the
same
time,
so
you
know
you
gotta
create
an
ecosystem
where
okay,
the
birds
can
be
over
here
and
the
cats
aren't
gonna,
get
all
the
birds,
and
you
know
maybe
they'll
get
a
couple
birds,
but
not
all
the
birds,
and
you
want
to
sort
of
keep
things
together,
and
so
it's
it
is
more
about
kind
of
structure.
I.
B
It's
so
good
birds
and
cats,
but
but
the
yeah
it
does
get
more
familiar
in
terms
of
you
know
where,
where
things
go
and
there's
there's
definitely
repeating
themes,
the
more
of
these
town
hall
meetings,
you
join
the
more
you'll
say:
oh
yeah,
we
talked
about
that
last
week,
but
things
do
happen.
It's
it
is
sneaky
how
it
how
it
happens,
but
sometimes
a
lot
of
things
happen
at
once
and
other
times
things
are
sort
of
on
the
the
back
burner
to
cool
for
a
while.
B
So
working
with
volunteers
in
a
large
distributed
decentralized
group
is
sort
of
just
regularly
maintaining
what
is
where
and
like
john
said
sort
of
gardening.
You
know
saying
well,
this
doesn't
need
to
be
there
or
I
can
connect
these
two.
So.
A
I
love
the
gardening
concept.
So,
let's
see
here,
is
it
fair
to
assume
that
ali
and
kevin
both
of
you
have
seen
the
recording
of
isabella's?
Excuse
me,
isabelle's
final
presentation.
A
Awesome
yeah
just
want
to
make
sure
you
have
access
to
that,
because
that'll
give
you
a
great
lead-in
to
where
she
left
off
all
right.
I
don't
think
I
have
anything
else
to
go
through,
so
let
me
just
open
it
up
with
the
time
we
have
remaining
to
ask.
If
anybody
here
has
anything
you'd
like
to
discuss
anyone
at
all.
A
It's
not
unusual,
we
have
zero
live
viewers
right
now
and
it's
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
people
to
watch
these
guys
just
so
they
understand
when
we
say
that
these
are
live
streamed
and
recorded.
I
mean
when
I
go
back
into
youtube
and
look
at
the
the
views
on
these
recordings
like
we
might
have
20
people
that
watch
these
out
of
our
community
of
thousands.
B
I
could
take
the
last
five
minutes
or
two
minutes
to
share
the
orientation
materials
that
we
put
together
for
kevin
and
ali.
There
were
these
four
themes
that
kind
of
came
up
and
they're.
I
think
they
parallel
what
we're
doing
with
goldman
sachs
instead
of
a
a
three-legged
stool,
it's
a
four-legged
chair,
but
nice
yeah.
Please
see
if
I
can
pull
that
up
really
quick.
B
Great
yeah
I'll
be
quick,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this
whole
thing,
but
we,
you
know,
set
up
the
the
two
internships
again
ali
is
doing
sort
of
event,
planning,
consulting
and
and
also
kind
of
media.
B
Marketing
that
kind
of
stuff
kevin's
looking
at
onboarding
operations,
consulting
also
probably
some
some
digging
into
our
archives,
but
when
I
was
trying
to
think
about
how
to
get
a
big
picture
on
the
the
larger
shifts
that
are
going
on
within
enable
and
and
what
are
some
themes
that
that
relate
to
really
all
levels
of
volunteering
and
and
what
we're
aiming
for.
B
I
was
thinking
about
sort
of
these
four
themes,
so
there's
device
user
leadership,
which
you
know
again
is
looking
at
the
recipients
as
being
a
leadership
role
within
the
community,
not
just
a
receiving
role.
But
you
know
how
do
we
in
going
back
to
this
whole
idea
of
ecosystems?
How
do
we
create
a
space
that
gives
opportunity
for
equity
and
cultivating
empowerment
for
device
users?
B
There's
the
educational
development,
educational
community
development,
which
is
you
know,
I
think,
we've
already
talked
about
internationalization
and
regional
networking.
A
B
Right,
no
yeah,
it's
it's!
It's
growing.
When
I
first
started
working
with
the
hub,
I
did
an
audit
and
I
remember
it
was
about
a
third.
So
that's
that's
pretty
interesting
that
in
the
last
year
it's
gone
from
a
third
to
almost
a
half
yeah
yeah,
so
internationalization
and
regional
networking.
You
know
anything
from
translations
of
materials
to
you
know
coordinations
between
volunteers
and
chapters
in
different
places,
pulling
things
back
together
into
the
hub
and
then
reporting
at
the
end.
A
I
just
add,
if
I
could,
on
the
internationalization
side,
helping
us
to
understand
the
differences
in
different
regions.
In
terms
of
you
know
the
regulatory
landscape
sensitivities
to
you
know
the
different
social
climate
around
prosthetics.
You
know
different
attitudes
from
medical
professionals
just
helping
it's
not
it's
not
all
the
same.
It's
very
different
in
different
places
and
helping
us
to
understand
that
would
be
part
of
that.
F
I
want
to
flag
that
I
think
that's
a
really
good
definition
of
eight
of
something
we
need
to
do
is
sort
of
to
map
the
different
psychosocial
regulatory
landscapes
on
the
planet.
B
Yeah
right
so
in
some
ways,
if
we
think
about
what
we're
doing
with
goldman
sachs
there's
with
goldman
sachs
there's,
this
extra
level
of
you
know
kind
of
coming
up
with
these
templates,
these
sort
of
exportable
kind
of
maker
clinics
that
is
sort
of
a
one
step
beyond.
But
one
of
the
things
that
didn't
come
up
with
that
three-legged
stool.
Is
this
device
leadership
as
as
being
sort
of
a
guiding
force?
B
I
think
it's
sort
of
assumed
in
what
we're
doing,
but
the
the
reporting
is
something
that
they're
helping
us
with
as
well.
But
that's
that's
something
that
I
think
we're
really
trying
to
learn
how
to
have
have
a
better
reporting
relationship
with
with
different
chapters
and
volunteers
and
bringing
some
of
these
experiences
data
insights
back
to
share
with
other
folks.
You
know-
and
I
think
some
of
that
could
be
device
design
like
what
alexander
is
doing.
B
Some
of
it
has
to
do
with
regional
needs,
which
is
what
jeremy
and
john
are
talking
about,
and
just
basically
community
contributions.
You
know
getting
a
sense
of
who's
pushing
in
what
direction,
but
I
did
want
to
share
that.
So
that's
you
know,
it
goes
on
and
I've
got
a
bunch
of
links
into
resources
for
for
these
guys,
but
I
thought
that
getting
your
feedback
would
be
great.
F
A
Don't
want
to
lose
this
ben,
we
don't
want
to
lose.
This
is
a
this
should
be
like
a
template
that
we,
I
mean,
there's
a
lot
of
great
information
on
what
you
laid
out
here,
and
I
just
don't
don't
let
this
get
like
this
shouldn't
be
a
one-time
thing.
This
just
turn
this
into
a
template
that
we
can
use
in
the
future.
F
B
No,
it's
some
of
the
stuff
to
working
with
isabella
was
was
really
helpful
to
think
about
sort
of
the
internship
process,
and
I.
A
B
B
Of
big
picture,
you
know
it
is
interesting
to
see
how
how
what
we
do
is
shaped
depending
on
the
people
that
we're
collaborating
with.
So
you
know
in
terms
of
working
with
goldman
sachs
versus
working
with
more
like
in
educational
side
of
things,
materials
creating
curriculum.
E
We
had
just
mentioned
the
brandeis
prosthesis
club
before,
and
I've
been
given
their
contact
information
this
morning,
though
so
I'll
send
them
an
email
later
today,.
B
Great,
that's
awesome
and
that's.
We
had
talked
yesterday
about
the
brandeis.
It's
a
club,
3d
printing
club.
B
Yes,
so
so
part
of
the
onboarding
that
that
kevin
is
going
to
be
exploring
is
talking
to
them
about
becoming
a
chapter
potentially
and
then
learning
about
that
process.
While
he's
I'm
talking
to
them
about
it
and
maybe
even
finding
out
just
about
what
they're
doing
and
being
able
to
report
on
that.