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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - September 15, 2023
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This is a recording of the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/e-nable-town-hall-notes
If you want to join into the meeting itself, you are welcome to do so. You'll find the Zoom link in the events calendar on the Hub.
A
A
Already
well
welcome
everyone
to
yet
another
town
hall.
This
is
the
September
15th
2023
Friday
meeting
I'm
gonna,
just
split
out
my
notes
from
my
other
tabs
here,
real
quick.
A
So
we've
got
a
couple
of
posts
of
note
on
the
Hub.
There
are
a
couple
things
that
I'd
like
to
draw
particular
attention
to,
and
then
we
have
some
outstanding
action
items
that
we
need
to
discuss
before
we
get
into
that,
though,
tomorrow
raised
I,
think
a
good
point.
We
should
take
just
a
moment
every
now
and
then
just
to
remind
people
who
are
maybe
new
to
the
community
for
who
we
are,
and
you
know
generally
what
we're
doing
here.
I
can
go
ahead
and
kick
things
off.
A
My
name
is
Adam
Jennings
I
am
a
physical
therapist
by
training.
I
joined
the
enable
community
in
a
more
official
capacity
last
year,
as
enables
Outreach
coordinator
I've,
recently
taken
over
these
Town
Hall
meetings
from
Jeremy.
We're
kind
of
shuffling
some
responsibilities
here
and
there
trying
to
lighten
the
load
where
it's
needed.
I
will
also
say
that
I
am
also
one
of
the
co-founders
of
an
organization
called
wildmont,
which
is
run
also
by
Mr
Jason
Tennyson
who's,
also
on
the
line.
A
Wild
Mont
has
taken
on
a
great
deal
of
Project
work,
including
fundraising
activities
and
some
specific
partnership
activities
over
the
past
few
months.
More
on
that
later
in
this
meeting,
because
we
need
to
resubmit
for
a
community
approval,
we
are
at
three
months.
A
Oh
yep
go
ahead.
We
can
allow
that
Fatima
recorder
John,
but
let's
move
on
to
Jeremy
Jeremy.
Do
you
want
to
go
next.
B
Sure
I'm
Jeremy
Simon
been
with
the
enable
for
it's
been
over
10
years
now,
I
one
of
the
co-founders,
along
with
John
who's.
B
Here
as
well,
and
you
know,
I've
I've
played
a
number
of
roles
in
the
community,
including
making
devices
for
recipients,
but
nowadays
I
help
out
more
behind
the
scenes,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
related
to
infrastructure,
helping
to
maintain
the
systems
that
support
our
community
like
the
Hub
and
the
enable
web
Central
matching
platform
which
may
be
replaced
with
a
new
one
eventually,
but
the
help
desk
system
that
we
have
a
sort
of
a
live
chat
bot.
C
Sure,
I
too,
am
the
co-founder
of
enable
I
have
played
more
of
a
role
of
evangelist
and
organizer,
while
Jeremy
actually
keeps
the
ship
of
state
of
float.
C
A
All
right
and
then
let's
well
Jason,
why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
give
a
brief
intro
good
morning
by
the
way,
hello.
D
E
Morning,
all
right,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
all
right,
perfect,
hello.
Everyone
I'll
put
a
face
to
the
name
here
as
well.
My
name
is
Jason
Tennyson,
as
Adam
mentioned
I'm
working
with
him
under
the
umbrella
of
wildlife
I'm
a
registered
nurse
by
background,
and
my
chief
role
here
is
to
to
take
the
lead
on
fundraising
and
do
some
additional
Outreach
activities
so
happy
to
be
here
and
happy
to
meet
you
all.
D
A
A
Doing
well,
tainara
is
an
occupational
therapist
she's
based
in
Brazil,
and
she
is
leading
up
our
efforts
to
create
a
more
focused
Healthcare
Community
within
the
enable
Network
we're
really
excited
about.
Where
that's
going
to
go,
yeah
and
then
I.
Think
Sarah
is
that
you
under
enable
events?
G
I
am
the
enable
Communications
coordinator
I
took
over
for
Ben
Rubin
almost
a
year
ago
now
and
I
help
with
all
sorts
of
different
Communications
initiatives,
the
newsletter
that
people
get
every
month,
coordinating
the
calendar
and
our
monthly
programming
and
reaching
out
to
different
chapters
and
to
people
when
they,
when
they
join
and
post
on
the
Hub
and
helping
with
helping
people
with
different
projects
and
initiatives
and
any
tasks
that
involve
writing
and
and
sort
of
other
other.
Behind
the
scenes.
A
Alrighty,
so
that's
it
for
the
folks
who
are
generally
in
quote-unquote
leadership
positions.
It
looks
like
we've
got
a
couple
of
other
people.
Online
I
saw
it
how
you
doing.
H
Hi,
hello,
I'm
very
new
to
this.
We
just
got
started
in
Singapore.
This
is
my
first
town
hall
meeting,
so
I'm
not
entirely
familiar
and
you're
really
happy.
A
You're,
fine
you're,
fine,
we're
we're
pretty
we're
we're
pretty
easy
breezy
with
the,
especially
with
the
introductions
we
love
having
as
many
people
as
we
can
on
the
line.
So
did
you
just
create
a
chapter
in
Singapore?
Is
that
right.
H
Yeah
I
mean
we've
had
a
bit
of
a
false
start
and
we've
been
doing
sort
of
bringing
assistive
technology
closer
to
people
who
need
it.
We've
been
working
with
persons
with
disabilities
and
their
caregivers
to
do
3D,
printing,
not
necessarily
Focus,
thesis
and
Prosthetics,
and
things
like
that.
But
smaller
things
and
now
we've
built
the
confidence
to
be
able
to
take
on
Prosthetics
as
well,
so
we're
just
about
getting
started
there.
A
That's
great
well
very
happy
to
have
you
I.
We
have
a
number
of
meetings
on
the
calendar
each
month.
We
have
right
now
these
weekly
Town
Halls.
We
also
have
hosted
by
tainara
our
monthly
Healthcare
meetings.
We
have
a
a
monthly
new
member
Meetup,
which
I
believe
is
also
combined
with
our
education
group
meetings,
as
well
as
a
bionic,
Design
Group
and
maybe
a
couple
of
other
things
here
and
there
we
try
to
bring
in
guest
speakers
and
some
other
things
each
month
as
well.
A
So
it's
plenty
to
do
plenty
to
listen
in
on,
but
if
you
have
any
questions
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
you
know
just
drop
a
pin
here
during
this
line
or
if
you
have
a
question,
feel
free
to
speak
up.
You
know,
there's!
No!
We
don't
really
have
like
a
you
know,
a
rule
against
that.
Certainly,
and
then,
if
you
have
any
other
questions,
The
Hub
is
there
for
Community
Support.
A
So
if
you
need
directions
to
the
hub
or
instructions
on
how
to
to
register
or
get
involved,
just
let
us
know.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
again,
for
the
welcome
I
mean
that
I've
been
trying
to
spool
up
on
the
discussion.
That's
been
going
on
in
the
Forum
and
it
sounds
like
there's
a
Vibrant
Community
and
it
sounds
like
again
that
you've
got
a
very
inclusive
atmosphere.
So
I
mean
I'm
very
happy
to
see
that
there
is
this
kind
of
added
an
atmosphere,
yeah.
A
No
we're
we're
thrilled
to
have
you.
Thank
you.
Well,
let's
dance
right
through
the
to-do
list.
Here,
we've
got
a
number
of
posts
from
The
Hub
this
week.
I
am
going
to
cue
those
up
real,
quick.
Thank
you
Sarah
for
getting
these
prepped.
First,
we've
got
in
the
hallway
to
17
year
old.
This
is
Mohamed
Salman
also
I
should
know.
My
apologies
gang.
There
were
a
couple
of
items
on
my
to-do
list.
I
want
to
just
knock
this
out
at
the
top.
A
I
came
down
with
food
poisoning
this
week
and
was
completely
out
of
commission
for
a
few
days.
So
my
apologies.
If
there's
something
that
we're
working
on
together,
that
I've
dropped
the
ball
on
I'm
doing
my
best
to
play
catch
up
now.
So
if
there's
some
things
on
here
that
are
still
outstanding
from
last
week,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
blame
that,
but
let's
let's
get
into
it,
Muhammad
Suleman
asks
they're
a
17
year
old.
A
A
So
I'm
not
clear
whether
they
already
had
a
device
and
they've
misplaced
it
or
if
they
want
one
for
the
first
time
regardless
it
sounds
like
they
need
a
new
device
and
it
looks
as
though
one
person
has
replied
a
couple
of
times
and
they're.
Looking
for
specifically
CAD
programs
to
use
I,
don't
know
what
Muhammad's
familiarity
with
CAD
is,
but
it
looks
like
Boris
offered
to
assist
with
the
adapting
design
at
no
cost.
That's
really
nice.
A
Okay,
no
response,
yet
it's
been
a
few
days
all
we
should
follow
up
here.
A
Okay
and
then
we've
got.
A
Oh
same
question:
just
posted
a
different
way:
more
detail
was
offered
in
the
second
post.
Okay,
we've
got
a
soft
Fox
I
feel
like
I've
seen
Saul
before,
maybe
maybe
I'm
confusing.
With
someone
else.
My
name
is
Saul
in
metric
in
South,
Africa
I
said
that
right
ahead
of
hand,
Prince
SA
and
NPO
that
uses
3D,
printing
and
manufacturer
press.
Oh
that's
great.
D
By
the
look
of
it,
I
would
be
very
interested
to
see
if
they
did
any
any
videos
or
anything
like
that
with
it
as
well.
That'd
be
nice.
A
South
Africa
is
the
other
side
of
the
continent
from
Florian,
but
I
wonder
if
this
sounds
very
similar
to
the
model
that
that
they're,
exploring
at
ugani
looks
really
cool,
though
it's
really
clean.
A
I
think
that's
well
and
done.
We've
got
another
post
from
Saul
I
think
this
is
what
I
was
thinking
of
two
devices
found.
Some
challenges
wanted
to
share.
Solutions
and
good
old
teary
dropped
in
the
comments
there.
But
let's
see.
A
Lee
tepes
gosh
guys
my
basic
level
of
functional
understanding
is
really
shown
here
generally.
B
They're,
referring
to
Lee
tippies,
which
are
the
the
silicone
fingertip
grips
that
we
include.
B
A
B
Probably
hard
to
find
elsewhere,
but
there
it
that's
just
what
we
chose
for
the
kids.
You
do
not
have
to
use
those
you
can
there.
You
can
use
various
types
of
sort
of
rubberized
Coatings.
It
looks
like
they're
linking
to
one
there
any.
G
B
Kind
of
you
know
you're
just
looking
for
some
kind
of
an
anti-slip
surface,
so
there
are
lots
of
ways
of
doing
that.
You
can.
You
can
take
a
pair
of
rubber,
gloves
and
cut
the
tips
off
of
them.
You
know,
there's
people
have
come
up
with
lots
of
different
solutions
for
that
this,
this
one
I,
don't
know
I,
guess
you
could
use
something
like
this,
but
being
like
a
tape,
I
don't
know
how
well
it's
going
to
adhere
unless.
F
C
For
maintenance,
what
it's
very
suggestion,
I
think
is
a
good
one.
He
points
out
that
glue
gun
glue
readily
available.
That's
a
good.
B
C
And
seems
promising
to
me.
A
So
this
is
I,
think
I
posted
or
posed
this
question
to
the
group
a
about
a
month
ago,
but
on
the
subject
of
touch
screen
compatibility
do
any
of
these
materials
work
on
like
a
smartphone
screen.
B
A
Because
it
would
be
difficult
to
use
these
devices
to
hold
the
phone
I
think
in
some
cases,
so
I
think
it
would
be
maybe
a
worthwhile
Avenue
to
pursue
that.
If
we're
looking
for
a
function
like
day
to
day,
you
know
make
having
some
kind
of
material
that
would
be
able
to
interact
with
the
touch
screen,
so
they
can
use
it
and
they're
assuming
they
have
a
an
intact
residual
hand.
C
Yeah,
we've
done
that
and
it's
it's
not
hard.
I
mean
even
a
very
light
weight
thread
thick
wire.
That
makes
contact
with
your
skin
and
then,
for
example,
is
embedded
on
the
surface
of
the
hot
glue
with
the
trick.
It
can
be
done
well.
A
I
have
I
have
like
cycling,
gloves
that
are
like
for
winter
that
have
like
just
simple
pads
that
I,
don't
think
need
to
be
I,
don't
think
it's
the
contact
with
my
my
hand,
that
makes
them
active
something
about
the
material
and
the
pads
on
on
the
fingertips
allows
them
to
interact
with
the
touch
screen.
C
That
works
it's
an
example
of
a
great
project
for
a
kid
of
any
age
to
research.
A
Sure,
okay,
so
it
looks
like
I'm
just
going
to
do
a
quick
AJ
follow
up
on
this
one.
A
Okay,
were
there
any
other
posts
on
the
Hub
that
were
included
in
this
list
that
anyone
wanted
to
draw
attention
to
before
we
move
on,
go
ahead,
John.
C
C
A
Let's
go
ahead
and
talk
about
that
now.
C
Okay,
so
zainab
is
is
back
in
the
game,
looks
much
more
rested
than
the
last
times
we
have
seen
her
after
the
earthquake
in
Turkey.
C
They
expect
a
Rush
of
young
people
with
recent
amputations
from
the
February
earthquake
and
they're
getting
organized
to
deal
with
it.
They
have
asked
for
a
list
of
best
models
with
links
and
comments
on
how
to
use
them.
C
We
should
we
should
have
this
it's
a
short
list,
but
we
should
compile
just
a
memo
about
gripper
hand,
Phoenix
and
kinetic
hand,
Etc
unlimited
arm
the
the
short
list,
with
the
recommended,
robust
Solutions
and
appropriate
documentation
I.
You
know,
I
fear
that
we've
forgotten
that
we
have
failed
to
do
the
simple
thing
while
trying
to
do
many
of
our
ambitious
things.
C
So
we've
got
these
great
big
compendia,
but
she
wants
us
just
to
give
give
her
the
bottom
line,
and
we
really
should
do
that
so
I
want
to
get
that
on
the
radar
they're
going
to
be
dealing
with
quantity,
I,
suspect
and
Jeremy
can
answer
this,
but
I
don't
think
the
Connecticut
is
hard
to
print
it's
the
joints
themselves,
which
are
a
challenge,
but
you
know
I'm
reminded
again
that
if
we
could
Mass
produce
the
flexible
joints,
then
people
could
really
hand
out
lots
and
lots
of
kinetic
hands
instead
of
lots
and
lots
of
Phoenix
hands
and
I.
C
Think
that's
the
sweet
spot.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
turkey
is
one
of
our
largest
chapters.
Ever
they
have
a
big
need
and
I'm
hoping
we
can
get
organized
around
them
to
support
them.
C
Other
topics
that
we
discussed
are
a
grant
collaboration
and
I've
written
to
actually
Adam
and
Jason
about
this
I
think
there's
some
real
opportunities.
They
also
have
a
documentary
that
is
being
made
about
them,
and
so
it's
also
a
big
publicity
opportunity
and
so
Adam
and
Jason
and
Jeremy.
If
you're
available,
we
should
you
should
catch
up
on
that
video.
We
should
Circle
back
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
support
and,
frankly,
capitalize
on
the
magnitude
of
the
need
and
opportunity
in
Turkey.
A
A
great
Point
in
apologies,
John
I,
haven't
I,
haven't
seen
that
yet
Sarah
brought
that
to
my
attention
earlier
this
week,
but
I'll
get
to
that
soon.
You
mentioned
a
grant
collaboration
opportunity.
Can
you
expand
on
that.
C
C
E
With
grants
and
and
bringing
other
folks
in
I
mean
that's
that's
opportunities
for
other
Specialties
as
well,
so
you
know
with
the
the
sort
of
Grant
crawlers
that
we
go
through,
where
it
lists
all
of
the
all
of
the
available
grants.
E
You
know
some
are
directly
tied
to
education
or
some
are
tied
to
you
know
different
medical
areas
right
so
that
that's
where
the
partner
partnering
comes
in
and
of
course
it
just
adds
scale
and
highlights
a
need
and
being
able
to
tell
the
the
local
stories
from
that
particular
from
that
particular
organization.
So
it's
going
to
to
help
expand
some
of
the
categories
of
grants
that
we
could
apply
for
now.
E
What
that
collaboration
would
look
like,
as
far
as
you
know,
receiving
the
funds
and
and
splitting
it
up-
and
you
know
obviously
we'll
we'll
have
to
get
something
on
on
paper
there,
but
John
you're
right
on
the
money
here,
no
pun
incended,
but
this
is.
This
is
a
good
opportunity.
A
Okay,
well,
let's
Circle
back
on
this
next
week.
I
want
to
well
no
we'll
cover
scheduling
things
at
the
end
of
the
call.
Let's
keep
on
moving
down
just
circling
back
to
our
discussions
with
Florian
at
yugani
perfia
we've
been
having
some
ongoing
discussions
offline
he
and
I,
and
we're
very
excited
about
how
we
can
potentially
collaborate
to
make
something
mutually
beneficial
across
a
couple
of
different
fronts.
A
Speaking
of
joint,
fundraising
and
Grant,
seeking
efforts,
there
are
a
number
of
opportunities
here
where
we
could
partner
with
yugani
to
utilize
some
of
their
storytelling
materials
in
our
own
Grant,
seeking.
Basically,
they
have
some
really
targeted
need
for.
Those
of
you
who
aren't
familiar
on
the
call.
Ugani
is
an
organization
that
was
founded
just
a
couple
of
years
ago
by
a
bioengineer
by
the
name
of
Florian
valleys
based
in
Brussels.
They
work
primarily
they've
started
in
Kenya
and
they're,
beginning
to
spread
across
the
African
continent.
A
Looking
into
a
couple
of
specific
regions
that
have
high
clusters
of
people
with
limb,
loss
of
all
different
Stripes,
you
know
lower
extremity
and
below
knee
above
knee
upper
extremity
below
elbow
above
elbow,
both
congenital,
which
is
you
know,
a
limb
difference
that
was
obtained
upon
birth
or
acquired,
which
would
be
some
form
of
limb
loss,
but
we're
looking
into
because
ugani
prothia
specifically
provides
devices
for
the
lower
extremity
right
now,
they're
using
3D
printing
technology
in
these
really
low
overhead
settings
to
turn
out
a
ton
of
devices
to
help
folks
who
have
no
access
to
prosthetic
surfaces.
A
It's
a
transformative
model
they've
been
wildly
successful
in
reaching
a
huge
number
of
folks
right
now,
after
just
two
years
in
operation
they're
the
number
three
Prosthetics
provider
across
the
African
continent,
they
are
really
interested
in
working
with
the
enable
to
use
a
modified,
enabled
design
to
start
providing
hands
to
folks.
A
There
are
some
issues
with
the
the
hand
designs
that
would
are
available
currently,
namely
there
are
some
cosmetic
issues,
some
need
for
possibly
looking
into
some
kind
of
design
that
would
facilitate
a
silicone
cover
or
something
that
would
make
it
look
a
little
bit
more
like
a
natural
hand,
depending
on
the
the
specific
region.
Community,
having
a
hand
that
looks
like
it's
unnatural
is
enough
to
you
know,
prevent
someone
from
being
comfortable
wearing
it
in
public
and
around
their
their
community.
So
that's
something
that
we
need
to
explore.
A
There
are
also
some
considerations
about
how
rough
and
tumble
the
prints
need
to
be
and
how
functional
they
need
to
be
the
kind
of
way
they
they
need
to
be
able
to
bear,
for
example,
but
once
we
can
get
some
of
these
wrinkles
ironed
out,
we
have
some
fundraising
opportunities
that
we
could
explore.
They
want
to
provide
these
enable
hands-free
of
charge
if
we
could
lead
some
fundraising
efforts
to
provide
for
having
those
distributed.
Folks
in
these
areas,
I
think
that
could
be
a
really
good
use
of
our
communities
time.
A
A
couple
of
other
areas
here,
I,
want
to
dance
right
through
this
we've
got
lots
of
opportunities
for
exploring
some
research
and
documentation
to
support
some
of
the
designs.
That
ubani
is
using
some
a
common
problem
in
the
African
continent
is
that
any
research
and
Innovation
that's
developed
there
it's
hard
to
get
Traction
in
the
International
Community.
There
are
a
number
of
reasons
for
that,
but
collaborating
with
members
in
U.S
or
EU
based
educational
facilities
or
others.
You
know
around
the
world
to
turn
out
some
white
papers
testing.
You
know
they.
A
They
were
joking
on
the
call,
the
other
day
that
you
know
they
can
hit
their
sockets,
that
they
print
with
a
hammer
and
show
how
sturdy
and
resilient
they
are
nobody's
going
to
care.
If
somebody
from
MIT
takes
a
video
of
them
hitting
a
socket
with
a
hammer,
Suddenly
It's
going
to
like
blow
up
in
the
international
MIT
researchers,
you
know
unable
to
destroy
this
this
cheaply
printed
device.
A
So
I
think
that
we
we
should
see
who
in
our
community
would
be
interested
in
working
to
to
stress
test
some
of
these
things.
If
that's
something
that
would
be
of
interest
a
couple
of
other
things
here,
remote
training
initiatives.
This
is
something
that
I
think
dovetails
nicely
with
this
discussion
that
we
are
having
with
ultimaker
the
other
day.
Jeremy
I
think
that
we
could
try
to
find
some
ways
to
provide
some
of
this
Baseline
training.
A
For
those
of
you
who
weren't
on
last
month's
Town
Halls
where
valorian
spoke,
the
one
of
the
issues
that
we
were
there
experiencing
is
that
there's
not
a
baseline
level
of
digital
understanding
for
use
of
computer
technology
and
smartphone
technology.
They've
got
these
brilliant
prosthetists
who
are
able
to
fabricate
these
devices,
but
when
it
comes
to
like
just
being
able
to
receive
a
cad
file
from
a
scanned
residual
Limb
and
convert
that
into
a
you
know,
a.
A
So
if
there
were
opportunities
for
members
of
the
enable
Community
to
provide
training
or,
at
the
very
least
Point,
their
prosthetists
to
training
somewhere
online
I
think
that
we
could
really
help
to
better
facilitate
having
these
devices
made
at
volume
and
then
just
circling
back
to
that.
First
point
about
designs:
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
collaborate
on
if
there
were
an
enabled
ugani
joint
venture
and
getting
something
that
would
maybe
be
a
better
fit
for
the
communities
that
they're
looking
at
across
the
African
continent.
A
We
could
do
this
in
a
couple
of
different
ways.
I
would
really
love
to
see
like
a
community
design
challenge,
something
that
would
spur
some
interest
from
the
broader
community
and
get
folks
focus
on
like
targetable
goals,
for
what
the
new
design
could
look
like.
A
E
I
just
want
to
point
out
here
Adam
just
having
that
that
hard
number
for
joint,
fundraising
and
Grant
seeking
efforts-
and
that
was
the
point
that
you
know
they
made
on
that
call
as
well.
It's
you
know,
it's
a
it.
It
gives
you
the
facts
like
hey
fifty
dollars
per
hand,
and
you
think
you
know
four
fifty
dollars
the
impact
that
you
can
have.
So
that's
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
good
sales
pitch
that
we
we
have.
You
know
definite
numeric
values
there
and
then
shooting
for
for
the
Thousand
hands.
E
It
just
gives
us
a
little
more
structure
to
to
what
we're
looking
for
now.
If
you
apply
apply
that
to
something
like
you
know,
maybe
like
a
a
crowdsourcing
or
or
what
have
you,
you
know
you
you,
you
have
a
definite
goal
and
I
think
it
just
adds
a
little.
You
know
a
little
more
incentive.
C
My
only
comment
is
that
we
should
talk
about
a
thousand
recipients,
not
a
thousand
hands.
We've
fallen
into
that
trap
many
times,
I
love
that
finding.
C
A
Any
other
thoughts
on
these
I'll
be
hammering
a
number
of
these
in
the
weeks
ahead,
just
because
this
has
become
sort
of
a
personal
Crusade
of
mine
trying
to
find
something
out
of
this.
This
collaboration,
but
if
not,
we
can
move
on
down.
A
Okay.
So
just
a
quick
reminder:
tainar.
If
you
want
to
speak
to
this,
if
you're
still
on
the
call
issues
well,
she
might
have
had
to
drop
tainara
at
works
during
this
time,
so
she's,
frequently
unable
to
jump
in
without
prior
notice,
but
the
September
Healthcare
meetings
have
collapsed
from
the
two
down
to
one
which
is
on
Monday
of
next
week.
A
We've
got
a
speaker
who
will
be
coming
to
address
the
I
believe
some
functional
experiences
of
upper
extremity
amputees
and
how
I
don't
know
exactly
all
of
the
topics
that
could
be
covered,
but
it
should
be
a
a
very
interesting
discussion,
I
believe
and
again,
I
apologize
if
you're
listening
to
this
after
the
fact,
I
believe
we're
going
to
be
shifting
to
one
Healthcare
meeting
per
month
instead
of
these
two
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
curious
or
interested.
A
These
Healthcare
meetings,
kind
of
have
two
main
prongs:
on
the
one
hand,
we're
attempting
to
convey
some
basic
health
care
knowledge
to
this
community,
which
is
largely
made
up
of
non-healthcare
folks,
so
that
we
can
get
a
baseline
understanding
out
in
the
ecosystem.
For
you
know
the
kinetics
of
human
body
movement,
you
know
what
healing
means
in
a
residual,
limb
post
amputation,
how
the
point
of
contact
between
the
residual,
Limb
and
the
device
that
is
being
printed.
A
You
know
what
kind
of
design
considerations
need
to
come
into
play
because
of
the
the
physics
of
how
that
that
motion
occurs.
So
that's
on
the
one
hand,
on
the
other
side
we're
attempting
to
package
and
convey
some
a
better
Baseline
level
of
understanding
about
these
devices.
For
members
of
the
Healthcare
Community,
oh,
was
that
tainara
yeah.
A
Back,
that's!
Okay!
That's!
Okay!
I
just
was
reminding
folks
what
these
Healthcare
meetings
are
about
and
reminded
them
that
we've
got
a
speaker
coming
in
on
Monday.
Do
you
can?
Can
you
speak
to
what
Our
Guest
is
going
to
be
addressing
on
Monday.
F
Oh
yeah
Natasha,
it's
a
huge
name
here
in
Brazil
with
she's
a
professional
therapist
too,
and
she
now
doing
a
doctorate
in
electric
electrician
engineering
and
she
development
a
lot
of
ship
Technologies
for
people
who
need
so
with
3D,
printing,
so
I
think
she's
a
a
great
speaker
to
us
in
this
meeting
and
so
Monday.
You
can
see
her
talking
a
little
bit
what
she
makes
here
in
Brazil.
A
A
A
This
is
part
of
our
assistive
technology
program
collaborations,
so
I've
been
speaking
with
Scout
Mary
for
the
past
couple
of
months,
he's
the
director
of
the
Missouri
ATP
or
atap,
and
what
we
have
ironed
out
is
what
I
think
of
is
a
pretty
neat
and
tidy
plan
to
get
the
ball
rolling
on
on
what
a
group
effort
between
the
enable
community
and
some
of
these
targeted,
State
assistive
technology
act.
Programs
would
look
like
folks
on
the
call
who
aren't
in
the
states
my
apologies.
A
This
is
a
very
U.S
Centric
exercise,
but
I
think
that
it's
something
that
could
potentially
be
replicated
outside
of
the
states
basically
in
the
U.S,
every
individual
state
in
the
United
States,
has
its
own
state-run
a
technology
program.
What
that
means
is
that
there's
a
mandate
for
the
state
government
to
provide
assistive
devices
for
folks
who
require
them
to
the
degree
that
they're,
you
know
that's
within
their
budget.
A
What
we
can
do,
what
our
community
is
able
to
do
is
3D
print
some
of
these
simple
devices
to
alleviate
the
burden
of
providing
these
this
technology
to
folks.
So
these
are
typically
folks
who
are
maybe
post-stroke
or
post-brain
injury.
These
could
be
people
who
don't
have
primary
diagnosis,
but
are
simply
not
able
to
get
around
their
homes
or
interact
with
their
environment
as
easily.
A
The
the
devices
in
question
are
things
like
key
holders
door,
Turners
jar
openers
little
things
that
don't
seem
that
important,
but
can
add
up
to
markedly
reduced
quality
of
life.
If
you're
not
able
to
do
all
of
these
normal
things,
yeah.
A
But
yeah
we're
we're
trying
to
get
this
picked
up
with
some
specific
States
we've
got
Pennsylvania,
which
runs
Tech
owl,
which
has
a
fabulous
online
repository
of
all
of
these
3D
printable
devices.
They
have
CAD
files
in
place,
there's
also
our
our
soft
partnership
with
makers
making
change
and
the
Neil
Squire
organization
up
in
Canada,
where
a
lot
of
these
states
are
using
those
designs
as
well
Scout
with
the
Missouri
assistive
technology
program
and
I.
We
are
targeting
kits
so.
A
Basically,
what
we're
proposing
is
that
community
members
are
able
to
prevent
any
of
10
devices
and
provide
those
to
scout
who
will
package
them
up
into
little
kits,
which
can
be
distributed
to
rehabilitation,
centers
retirement
homes,
community
centers,
to
be
made
available
to
folks
for
Hands-On
testing
and
use
from
there.
A
We're
going
to
scout
is
going
to
be
organizing
a
system
to
acquire
feedback
for
the
utility
of
the
devices,
and
we
can
get
some
impact
Assessments
in
place
to
say
you
know,
what's
actually
useful
for
folks
what
are
the
hot
items
where
people
really
seem
to
be
interested,
and
then
we
can
start
making
sort
of
a
standing
request
for
any
enable
member
who's.
Maybe
new
to
3D
printing
seems
like
an
ideal
Target
or
student
groups
who
are
just
getting
into
this
idea
of
compassionate
engineering
to
print
some
of
these
things.
A
So
you
can
see
that
the
devices
are
things
like
a
smartphone
magnification
stand
blister
pack,
opener
beverage
can
opener
toothpaste,
squeezer,
bottle,
opener
key
Turner,
two
opener
nail,
clipper
holder.
All
of
these
things
are
available
to
Simply,
download
and
print
on
a
commercial
grade
device,
so
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity.
I
think
that
if
this
takes
off,
this
could
be
something
that
we
take
to
maker
spaces
that
are
a
little
bit
more
public
facing.
So
my
initial
thought
was
because
Scout
is
based
here
in
Kansas
City,
where
I
am.
A
We
also
have
Union
Station
here
in
downtown
Kansas
city,
that
has
a
very
large
maker
space
for
students
where
they
do
a
lot
of
public
projects.
If
we
could
convince
them
that
this
would
be
a
worthwhile
activity
to
have
high
school
groups
come
in
and
print
some
of
these
devices.
Instead
of
just
you
know
your
Pikachus
and
your
your
Majora's
masks
and
all
those
those
cool
things
that
might
be
a
really
good
way
to
start,
bringing
in
some
more
formalized
support
outside
of
the
enable
Community
too
so
John.
Another
question
well.
C
I'm,
just
I
I
I'm,
struck
by
the
opportunities
that
seem
to
be
opening
up.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
you
know
it
occurs
to
me
that
the
evangelism
you're
doing
is
great.
You
will
amplify
that
if
you
actually
do
a
few
of
them,
call
the
local
press
and
get
one
of
these
reports
in
social
media
or
on
the
news
about
a
Boy
Scout
or
a
volunteer
who's.
Actually
given
one
to
a
recipient
who
says
this
is
terrific.
Now
I
can
open
my
polysporin.
C
We
found
that
those
news
reports
bring
lots
of
people
in,
and
people
who
are
particularly
inspired
by
that
example.
So
the
struggle
we've
had
is
that
many
of
the
enabled
people
have
come
in
attracted
by
the
vision
of
Prosthetics
and
interestingly
they're
reluctant
to
expand
Beyond
Prosthetics.
A
Think
that's
a
good
point.
I
think
that
I
think
that
there
are
also
people
who
are
turned
off
of
the
idea
of
joining
the
enable
Community
because
hands
look
fairly
complicated.
They
look
complex,
exactly
and
saw
it.
I
think
you
had
your
hand
up
first
and
then
Jeremy.
H
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
We've
sort
of
Taken
the
other
approach
here,
where
we
started
off
with
printing
these
devices
to
help
with
every
day
activities
and
make
us
making
change,
was
a
a
very
positive
Source.
We've
made
quite.
H
Devices
that
are
that
you
mentioned,
and
they
have
been
used
by
people
here
in
Singapore
and
we're
actually
based
in
a
library,
a
public
library
that
happens,
and
so
we
host
weekly
sort
of
open
sessions
where
people
can
come
and
try
these
things
out.
H
So
this
idea
of
putting
together
a
kit
and
sending
it
to
different
parts
of
the
US
and
getting
people's
feedback
to
say,
which
one
of
these
is
more
useful
than
the
other
and
to
what
extent
I
think
would
be
phenomenally
useful
even
here,
but
to
speak
to
the
thing,
the
point
that
was
just
raised
that
getting
people
familiar
with
printing
for
a
purpose
or
you
know
if
they've
just
learned
how
to
use
the
3D
printer
and
then
applying
that
skill
to
more
than
just
printing.
H
You
know
your
heads
and
keychains.
There
is
a
desire
for
that
and
we're
seeing
this
in
our
work
at
the
library,
because
the
library
Makerspace
does
introduce
the
general
public
to
3D
printing.
They
offer
courses
for
free
and
singaporeans
take
the
course
and
they
never
come
back.
H
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
offer
a
place
for
those
skills
to
be
applied
towards
something
meaningful
that
could
help
with
a
person's
day-to-day
activities.
So
that's
kind
of
the
approach
that
we
have.
It's
still
very
new
and
we've
been
doing
this
with
smaller
devices
like
what
you
see
with
makers,
making
change
and
now
with
enable
I
think
we're
starting
the
game,
the
confidence
to
be
able
to
offer
Prosthetics
as
well
so
I.
A
B
Yeah
I
would
just
recommend
that,
with
these
types
of
devices,
just
like
we
do
with
our
hands,
I
would
encourage
you
to
include
material
recommendations,
I
I,
think
pet
G
is
still
an
ideal
material
for
these
tough
pla
could
also
be
appropriate
because
it's
not
going
to
be
it's
not.
These
won't
tend
to
be
exposed
to
the
kind
of
heat.
B
That
hands
will,
but
in
terms
of
strength
like
if
you
go
back
to
the
page,
where
you
showed
that
tube
opener,
if
you
imagine
somebody
applying
pressure,
not
where
he
is
right
on
top
of
the
cap,
but
either
below
or
above
that,
that
Leverage
is
going
to
create
quite
a
lot
quite
a
lot
of
stress
in
the
part,
and
it
will
break
if
it's
pla.
Okay,.
A
B
A
Comments
three
material
reference
and
I
would
say
you
said
pet
G,.
B
A
Okay,
gotcha
yeah,
already
I'll
I'll
drop
that
that's.
That
sounds
great
and
are
there
I
mean
again
forgive
my
ignorance?
Are
there
sources
for
specifically
pet
G
and
pl
they
fit
filaments
where
we
would
direct
people
to.
B
B
A
Jeremy
as
soon
as
I,
actually
print
a
device
or
buy
a
printer
I'll
be
sure
to
go
to
3D.
Universe
right
I
feel,
like
I,
owe
you
that
much
okay?
Let's
keep
on
going
we're
down
to
about
12
minutes
left
in
the
hour.
A
So
our
annual
report
is
due
to
the
dedora
gosh
I
have
a
hard
time
saying
that
the
d
Dora
foundation
in
just
a
couple
of
weeks
I
have
drafted
an
initial
summary
of
our
activities
for
2023.
My
apologies
to
Sarah
and
Company
I
had
planned
to
make
this
available
to
you
earlier
this
week,
but
again
illness
I'm
going
to
blame
that
for
everything
we
need
to
get
that
out
to
the
Dora
Foundation
soon,
because
we
are
seeking
a
renewal
of
funding
from
these
folks.
A
So
anyone
who
wants
to
contribute
to
that
or
if
you
have
any
ideas
about
specific
people
who
have
been
helped,
even
if
you're
brand
new
to
the
enable
Community
like
sod,
and
if
you
wanted
to
point
out
the
kind
of
activities
that
you
are
interested
in
doing,
we
would
love
to
highlight
any
chapter
just
to
show
gosh.
A
We
need
to
get
like
Tony
Lurch
and
some
other
people
who
are
really
prolific
in
getting
hands
to
people
in
other
activities
to
folks
to
start
generating
similar
these
storytelling
elements,
but
I'll
make
sure
to
make
this
available
to
the
rest
of
the
team.
Who's
drafting
this
report
before
the
end
of
the
day.
I
also
want
to
note
that
Sarah
sent
out
the
2023
chapter
audit.
Earlier
this
week,
an
email
with
a
survey
link
was
sent
on
9
13..
We
already
have
about
a
dozen
responses.
A
G
Yeah
unlisted
this
chapter
later.
A
Okay,
just
making
sure
oh
yeah-
and
you
already-
you
already
replied
perfect,
so
we
will
make
sure
everybody
who
needs
one's
getting
one
I've
been
reading
the
responses
on
this
that
this
survey
is
asking
how
many
people
are
in
your
chapter?
How
many
devices
have
you
provided?
What
kind
of
challenges
have
you
faced?
A
How
can
you
enable
support
you
better
in
accomplishing
what
it
is
you
want
to
do
and
the
feedback
is
really
insightful
and
really
great
and
I'd
love
to
raise
some
of
these
once
we
close
the
survey
in
a
few
weeks,
I
would
really
love
to
see
what
this
group
thinks
about
some
of
the
feedback
that
we've
been
receiving.
Some
really
good
ideas.
A
I
wanna,
I'm
gonna,
skip
this
next
one
for
just
a
moment
here
and
just
call
out
that,
while
I'm
on
it,
this
contract
is
on
a
three-month
assessment
cycle
and
we're
coming
up
on
three
months.
Since
our
initial
contract
was
signed
between
wildmont
and
the
enable
Community,
we
need
to
drop
a
recommendation
for
Renewal
on
lumio.
If
this
is
something
that
we
want
to
pursue
again,
as
we've
always
said,
if
it's
not,
then
no
harm
done,
I
think
that
we
can.
A
C
Let
me
let
me
take
the
lead
by
cutting
you
off
right.
There
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
a
terrific
job.
C
You,
your
simple
diligence
has
opened
up
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
the
next
three
years,
two
years,
I
guess
from
the
milstein
foundation,
three
years,
three
Chris
there
you
go
and
what
you're
doing
is
exactly
what
we
wanted
you
to
do
so
I
think
it's
a
no-brainer,
I
think
you've
already
so
I
I'm
going
to
be
urging
the
community
to
support.
What's
going
on
I'm
going
to
urge
you
to
stop
undercutting
the
value
of
what
you're
producing
you.
A
Laughs
well,
thank
you.
John
I
will
say
that
the
initial
request
I,
think
that
was
submitted
by
either
you
or
Jeremy
I
I
maintained
that
I.
Don't
think
that
Jason
or
I
should
be
the
one
submitting
the
request
but
I'm
happy
to
help
draft
up
the
language.
For
that.
That's.
A
All
I
can
send
that
to
you
before
into
day
today.
Just
to
you
know,
renewal
of
the
original
language
to
drop
on
the
platform-
okay.
Well,
that's
great
I
will
also
say
that
Jason
Jason
do
you
want
to
give
an
update
on
some
of
these
other
I
mean
the
milstein
foundation
not
to
not
to
diminish
that.
Obviously,
anything
is
great,
but
I
know
you're.
Looking
at
some
other
much
larger
targets.
Do
you
do
you
want
to
talk
on
that?
Or
do
you
want
to
wait?
E
I
I
could
spend
just
just
a
minute
or
two
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
the
larger
one
that
that
we're
chasing.
We
almost
have
the
all
of
our
paperwork
together
to
to
fully
submit
for
this,
but
the
more
I
dug
into
the
Autodesk
in
the
Autodesk
Foundation.
E
They
actually
have
an
application
process
for
one
of
the
it's
one
of
the
branches
of
their
company
for
activist
investing,
so,
basically,
all
the
gains
from
from
their
Investments
and
and
being
able
to
and
being
able
to
to
donate
those
funds
here,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
large,
a
large
opportunity
where
we'll
see
you
know
much
more
significant
numerical
values
so
just
about
wrapped
up
on
that
application
process.
E
I
would
expect
it
to
be
sent
out
next
week
and
then
you
know,
will
be
there'll,
be
fingers
crossed
from
there
right.
That's
it.
Yep
I
think
that's
the
that's
the
big
one
and
and
the
most
exciting
one.
We
we've
got
a
few
irons
in
the
fire,
but
that's
the
that's
one.
I'm
really
excited
about,
and.
A
Just
because
Jason
I
think
is
being
a
little
modest,
we're
looking
at
somewhere
in
the
mid
six
figures
on
that
and
I
think
that
we'll
want
some
Community
inputs
and
some
input
from
this
group
on
making
sure
that
this
is
a
as
impactful
an
application
as
possible,
but
no
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
potential
there.
A
Okay!
Well,
let
me
just
hop
back
up
we've
I.
Did
it
again,
I
didn't
leave
enough
time
to
the
end,
we're
still
hanging
out
on
our
mission
statement,
I'm
going
to
I
think
just
drop
a
summary
of
the
discussions
that
we've
had
in
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
Town
halls
around
our
mission
statement
I
think
we're
about
80
90
of
the
way
there.
In
terms
of
the
language
we
took
our
feedback
from
the
survey
that
was
sent
out
to
the
community.
A
Last
month,
we've
had
a
number
of
discussions
in
town
halls.
Just
as
a
reminder.
The
purpose
of
attempting
to
get
a
more
official
mission
statement
is
to
better
communicate,
enables
function
and
place
in
the
world
to
potential
Partners
to
potential
grants
authorizers
to
potential
funding
Partners.
A
Anyone
who
we're
going
to
be
asking
for
assistance
in
Project
work
or
in
receiving
funds
from
they
need
to
have
you
know
enough
graft
and
have
a
clear
idea
about
what
it
is
we're
doing
in
the
world,
so
that
that's
the
purpose
of
trying
to
get
the
submission
statement
together,
but
please
keep
your
eyes
on
the
Forum
in
the
coming
week
or
so
where
I
will
drop
a
summary
of
this,
this
back
and
forth
process
and
try
to
solicit
some
more
insight
from
the
large
community.
A
Please
feel
free
to
drop
responses
in
your
own
opinions
about
what
direction
you
should
go.
We've
got
about
four
minutes
left.
Does
anyone
else
have
any
questions
or
comments
before
we
close
the
call.
A
A
Okay,
well
once
again,
thank
you
to
Saad
and
thank
you
to
everyone
for
joining
and
participating
today.
Please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
directly
via
the
Hub.
If
you're
not
familiar
with
the
messaging
system
on
the
Hub,
you
can
just
go
up
to
that.
Little
envelope,
icon,
that's
off
the
webpage
type
in
a
person's
name.
I
realize
I'm
listed
as
enable
events
here.