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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - August 19, 2022
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A
Okay,
we
are
live.
Welcome
to
another
town
hall.
It's
just
two
of
us
right
now,
adam
and
myself
are
here
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
get
started,
but
I
assume
others
will
be
joining
us.
It's
unusual
to
have
such
a
small
group
here,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
and
go
through
our
preliminary
stuff
here
and-
and
hopefully
others
will
be
joining
us
shortly.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so,
let's
see,
let's
go
right
to
our
action
items
so
the
first
one
was
for
me-
and
I
haven't
done
this
one
yet,
but
I'm
going
to
be
redirecting
the
chapter's
email
address
to
our
help
desk.
It's
just
a
matter
of
modifying
some
some
settings
and
dns
stuff-
and
I
just
haven't-
had
a
chance
to
set
that
up
yet
so
I'm
going
to
leave
that
on
the
list
for
next
week.
A
Take
care
of
that.
We
talked
about
getting
a
meeting
together
of
this
emerging
leadership
team
and
I
think
at
this
point,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
is
get
two
meetings
together.
So
we
need
one
meeting
just
for
this
sort
of
emerging
group
of
leaders
that
we've
been
talking
about
to
get
together
get
to
know
each
other
talk
about
who's,
focusing
on
what
make
sure
that
we're,
not
you
know,
duplicating
efforts.
Things
like
that,
so
just
kind
of
compare
notes
and
agree
on
who's
doing
what.
A
Secondly,
I
think
we
need
a
meeting
with
that
same
team
as
well
as
our
friends
from
deloitte
uk
to
talk
about
a
project
that
they
were
going
to
take
on
to
help
us
sort
of
evaluate
some
of
our
online
assets,
make
recommendations
for
changes
to
make
it
easier
to
navigate
look
at
our
matching
platforms
and
figure
out
kind
of
what
a
good
direction
to
go.
There
is
just
kind
of
help
us
to
figure
out
our
next
steps
with
our
online
assets
and
making
things
a
little
easier
to
use.
A
B
Yeah
actually
so
I
created
a
space
for
the
leadership
team.
I
went
ahead
and
invited
each
of
the
individuals,
including
yourself
and
john
and
rick,
just
for
visibility
of
the
folks
who
who
seem
to
be
the
decision
makers
based
on
my
exposures
so
far
and
just
trying
to
to
establish
a
space
where
we
can
start
planning
these
sessions
yeah.
So
I
put
out
a
call
asking
people
to
indicate
dates
in
the
next
one
to
two
weeks.
B
That
would
work
for
a
you
know
a
little
round
table
discussion,
but
don't
have
anything
firmed
up
yet
I
might
go
back
to
traditional
routes
and.
A
I
saw
that
I
saw
that
space
you
created,
I
think,
that's
a
good
idea.
We
might,
we
might
just
need
to.
It
usually
takes
a
little
time.
I
don't
have.
Have
you
seen
how
many
people
have
actually
accepted
the
invite
and
joined.
A
So
we
might,
it
might
take
a
couple
of
messages
we
might
want
to
do
it
like
a
follow-up
email,
hey
in
case
you
didn't
see
this
we're
going
to
try
to
use
this
space
to
coordinate.
So
please,
you
know
accept
your
invite.
When
you
have
a
chance
that
you
know
we
might
need
to
prompt
people
a
little
bit
more.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
because
it
allows
us
to
communicate
without
having
to
have
a
common
time.
You
know
whenever
people
are
available,
they
can
jump
in
and
catch
up
right.
A
So
I
like
that
idea,
but
we
might
need
to
you,
know,
might
take
two
or
three
attempts
to
to
kind
of
nudge
people
to
jump
in
there
and
get
involved.
I
will
try
to
get
in
there
after
this
meeting
and
post
a
little
something,
even
if
it's
just
an
introduction,
just
because
I
think
the
more
you
know
the
more
we
have
people
posting
in
there
it'll
encourage
people
to
actually
get
in
and
use
it
so
sure
I'll
go
and
post
something
yep.
That
sounds
great.
Thank
you.
That
was
a
good
idea.
A
Okay,
so
we're
still
working
on
sort
of
coordinating
amongst
that
team
and
just
just
be
aware
that,
as
part
of
our
our
sort
of
goals
there
is
we
want
to
re-engage
with
that
deloitte
uk
team,
once
we
kind
of
have
a
sense
of
what
we're
each
focusing
on
and
we
want
to
get
them
drawn
back
in
and
have
a
discussion
with
them,
and
I
think
that
probably
will
need
to
be
a
meeting,
so
we
can
actually
share
screens.
A
Look
at
things
have
some
specific
discussion
about
what
we
need
to
get
done
so,
but
that
can
come
later.
So,
let's,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
people
just
kind
of
talking
in
that
space,
first,
okay,
all
right!
So
on
we
go.
We
got
our
metrics
here
for
the
week
and
nothing
really
jumped
out
at
me
is
unusual,
except
for
the
fact
that
it
was
a
very
likable
week
on
the
hub
we
had
27
likes.
A
I
don't
know,
don't
know
what
that
was
about,
but
we
had
a
lot
of
likable
content
this
week.
I
guess
other
than
that
pretty
typical
week.
So
we'll
just
move
on
some
posts
of
note:
alberto
nevada
posted
a
very
cool
new
bike,
adapter
design,
this
okay,
I.
A
Enable
italia,
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
pronounce
their
names,
but
there's
two
volunteers
listed
here
and
they
shared
this
really
nice
looking
design,
which
they
print
in
a
tpu
so
that
it's
flexible,
which
makes
sense
because
then
you've
got
this
release
mechanism
that
can
you
know,
pull
off,
which
would
be
more
difficult
if
it
was
in
a
rigid
material.
So
that's
a
very
smart
design
looks
really
nice
and
from
the
comments
I
saw
it
looks
like
it.
It's
tested
really
well
so
far,
it's
working
nicely.
So
that's
a
very
cool
design.
A
Oh
inspired
by
your
design,
I
made
a
bicycle
holder
for
a
one
and
a
half
year
old.
Oh
so
this
is
a
similar
okay,
I
see
so
he
made
something.
For
is
this
for
a
younger
child.
I
didn't
see
this.
One
printing
from
the
flexible
material
is
more
difficult,
but
it's
worth
doing
so,
I'm
not
fully.
I
can't
see
from
the
side,
so
I
can't
fully
understand
how
this
one
is
designed.
A
I
don't
see
like
a
like
that
breakaway
type
mechanism
on
this
one,
but
maybe
that's
just
because
it's
not
as
important
with
a
toddler
like
this.
His
arms
come
out
of
the
socket.
I
guess
if
he
fell
off,
so
that
might
just
be
a
different
approach
to
that.
That's
what
I'm
assuming
yeah!
I
assume
his
arm
would
just
come
out
if,
if
he
had
to
release
but.
A
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
but
this
one
especially
for
the
older
kids.
I
I've
seen
these
I've
seen
bike
adapters
before,
but
this
is
probably
the
nicest
looking
one
I've
seen
and
I
don't
know
that
I've
seen
one
made
with
the
flexible
materials
which
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
So
this
is
very
cool
all
right
and
then
the
other
one
I
wanted
to
share
is
from
moment
nadine.
I'm
sure
I'm
not
pronouncing
that
right
and
he
shared
a
challenging
case
where
he's
seeking
a
3d
designer
to
help
with
this.
A
A
You
know
you
always
want
to
try
to
not
prevent
them
from
being
able
to
use
the
anatomy
that
they
have,
which
in
this
case,
looks
like
it
might
be
a
thumb,
but
at
the
same
time
you
want
to
you
know,
build
something
around
that
that
would
provide
better
functionality
than
what
they
have
and
it's
just
it's
a
very.
This
is
a
very
custom
type
of
device
here.
A
I
think
that
you're
gonna
need
so
looks
like
there
has
been
some
good
discussion,
they're
talking
about
getting
hold
of
a
3d
scanner,
which
is
good.
That's
going
to
definitely
be
helpful
for
this.
A
A
I
guess
that's
about
all.
There
is
right
now
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up,
mainly
with
a
word
of
caution,
be
careful
about
starting
off
with
really
challenging
cases
like
this,
but
I
am
glad
to
see
that
there
is
at
least
one
other
volunteer-
that's
jumped
in
to
help
here
so
that
that
might
that
might
be
enough
to
to
make
for
a
successful
outcome.
I
don't
know
any
other
thoughts
on
that
adam.
B
Yeah-
and
you
know,
this
is
something
that
I'd
like
to
explore
in
more
detail.
As
the
leadership
team
comes
out
and
also
as
the
the
healthcare
roundtable
group
starts
to,
hopefully
get
a
little
bit
more
active
and
more
coordinated
in
terms
of
working
with
the
individual's
care
team.
If
they
have
one
to
to
try
to
identify
where
the
functionality
is
needed,
and
I
I
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
would
really
benefit
us
and
again.
B
I
think
this
is
a
much
larger
discussion
than
we
probably
have
have
space
for
for
today's
town
hall.
But
but
I
I
think
that
there
is
the
sort
of
entrenched
community.
I
shouldn't
say
in
trench
that
has
a
negative
connotation.
B
There's
the
existing
community
of
onp
professionals
and
physical
therapists
and
medical
providers,
who
I
I
think
we
could
stand
to
try
to
find
opportunities
for
collaboration
with
more
broadly
and
and
making
part
of
our
process
a
more
committed
approach
to
to
contacting
those
people
who
are
attached
to
the
the
people
in
need
of
devices.
I
think
could
go
a
long
way
to
increasing
enables
legitimacy
and
the
degree
to
which
we're
embraced
by
the
medical
community.
B
A
No
problem,
like
I
said
I
didn't
mean
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
definitely
hope
you'll
have
a
chance
if,
if
ben
didn't
get
you
a
copy
of
that,
I
can.
I
can
find
the
recording
and
share
it
with
you,
but
I
I
mentioned
them,
because
I've
always
been
so
impressed
with
what
the
enable
folks
in
brazil
have
been
doing
and
they're,
not
the
only
ones.
A
You
know
throughout
the
process
the
back
and
forth
the
the
fitting
process,
the
follow-up
process
they
just
they
they've
had
an
opportunity
to
build
a
very
robust
process
that
incorporates
that
the
medical
community-
and
I
wonder
if
I
I'm-
I
have
no
doubt
that
you
could
come
up
with
a
you
know,
just
as
good
of
a
process.
But
you
know,
as
opposed
to
recreating
the
wheel.
I
hope
you
can
have
a
chance
to
look
at.
They
said
they
already
have
that
process
well
documented.
So,
oh.
A
A
No,
no,
no!
I
I!
I
probably
need
to
get
you
a
link,
so
I'll
I'll
try
to
do
that
after
this
meeting,
but
it
would
be,
it
would
be
worth
checking
out
and-
and
we
can
have
some
follow-ups
with
them.
A
They
also
have
a
they
have
a
very
robust
app
that
they
built,
which
is
a
web-based
sort
of
a
reporting
sort
of
dashboard,
but
also
has
a
a
mobile
phone
app
that
they've
built
where
you
can
use
that
in
the
field,
to
sort
of
manage
your
cases
and
and
and
do
everything
that
they
need
to
do
now.
A
They
had
to
take
that
app
offline,
a
while
back
because
they
had
some
staff
changes
and
I
guess
there
was
some
privacy
concerns,
and
so
they
had
to
kind
of
lock
things
down
before
bringing
it
back
online.
So
it's
offline
right
now,
but
they
did
give
us
a
demo
in
the
past
and
it
was
very
impressive.
It
built
so
there's
just
there's,
there's
so
much
good
work.
That's
been
done
in
brazil
in.
B
Yeah,
that's
awesome.
I
had
no
idea,
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
on
my
my
expanding.
Like
things,
I
definitely
don't
know
enough
about,
but
would
like
somebody
who
knows
a
little
bit
more
than
I
do
to
look
into
it,
whether
if,
if
we
could
devise
some
kind
of
enable
app
that
just
has
the
bare
bones
it
has.
B
You
know
the
the
release
form
it
has
the
you
know
a
camera,
a
feature
so
that
we
can
get
a
quick
image
or
even
if
there
were
a
way
to
take
some
quick
measurements
on
a
picture
that
were
taken
and
then
just
capturing
some
simple
by
biographic
and
anthropometrics,
so
that
we
could.
All
of
that
would
then
get
linked
to
the
hub,
and
we
could
create
the
case
on
our
phone
man.
I
I
think
that
would
be
amazing.
A
I
I
tend
to
agree,
and
I
think
that's
the
direction
that
we've
been
heading.
That's
why
we
were
going
to
try
to
engage
with
the
deloitte
team
to
sort
of
analyze
what
we
have
currently
because
we've
come
to
a
similar
conclusion
that
the
enable
web
central
app
is
probably
just
overly
complicated.
It's
not
easy
enough
to
use,
especially
for
new
members,
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
encourage
the
type
of
process
and
workflow
that
we
want.
Now
that
we've
we've
kind
of
realized
yeah.
B
It
was
confusing
to
me
it
was
hard
for
me
to
ascertain
the
sort
of
nature
and
structure
of
you
know
enable,
I
guess,
is
kind
of
a
hat
on
top
of
the
community
right
and
the
fact
that
all
the
the
different
chapters
are
effectively
independent
and
there
are
sort
of
different
sites
and
avenues
that
you
can
access
different
pieces
of
enable.
It
was
a
little
hard
for
me
to
to
understand
about
where
my
starting
point
should
be.
A
Yeah,
that's
exactly
the
challenge
and
you're,
not
the
only
one.
So
that's
where
the
deloitte
team
was
really
going
to
help
is
looking
at
that
onboarding
kind
of
new
user
journey.
And
how
do
you?
How
do
people
find
their
way
and
where
are
people
getting
stuck,
and
how
can
we
make
it
easier?
And
so
there's
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
but
we
we,
I
think
we
have
a
better
sense
now
of
what
works
and
doesn't
work.
A
We
just
need
to
figure
out
kind
of
what
our
next
steps
are
and
how
to
build
that
easier
to
use
system.
So
I
definitely
want
you
involved
in
those
discussions
and
I
think
we've
got
a
good
starting
point
with
that
space
you
created
so
we'll
get
some
discussion
going
there
and
then
pull
the
delay
onto
that.
A
Oh
and
by
the
way,
as
a
side
note,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
I
think
you've
already,
so
we
have
a
list
that
we've
kind
of
been
building
here.
As
far
as
kind
of
the
emerging
leadership
team-
and
I
I
assume,
you've
invited
all
these
people
to
that
space.
B
I
neglected
to
invite
scythe,
no
I'm
sorry,
dr
savage
safe.
I
I
apologize
forget
her.
Her
first
name
is
pronounced.
A
No
no,
no
worries.
Let's
let
me
ask
you
to
go
ahead
and
invite
her,
and
also,
let's
invite
ed
grieg,
I'm
going
to
put
his
name
down
in
here,
for
you
he's
the
leader
of
the
deloitte
uk
team,
so
it'd
be
good
to
have
him
in
there
as
well.
So
he
has
visibility
into
these
discussions
so
and
you'll
find
him.
If
you
just
you,
know,
you'll
find
him
in
the
hub.
If
you
look
him
up
just
note
the
spelling
there,
it's
e-I-g
from
the
last
name.
A
Okay,
so
we've
got
a
good
start
there
on
those
discussions.
Where
was
I
up
here?
Okay,
so
we
talked
about
the
kind
of
the
posts
of
note
of
the
week.
So
let's
talk
about
events.
This
is
where
I
usually
like
to
have
ben
or
john
kind
of
walk
us
through.
What's
coming
up
next,
I
guess
I'll
do
my
best.
Today
we
have
the
new
member
meet
up,
which
I
assume
rick
is
going
to
be
running
for
us.
A
I
know
he
did
say
that
he
wasn't
going
to
be
able
to
join
the
town
hall
today,
but
I
hope
he's
going
to
be
back
in
time
for
the
new
member
meet
up,
because
I
think
he's
supposed
to
be
running
those
now.
Maybe
I
will
try
to
jump
in
on
this
one
just
to
make
sure
in
case
nobody
else
is
available.
A
B
A
Absolutely
oh,
and
I'm
just
seeing
a
couple
of
text
messages
here
in
our
chat,
ryan
doyle
says
good
morning
three
months
into
my
recovery
lost
the
tip
of
my
right
thumb
still
swallowing.
B
A
Like
crazy
yeah,
that
sounds
painful
sorry
to
hear
that
ryan
yeah.
Hopefully
you
have
a
full
and
quick
recovery.
That's
I'm
sorry
to
hear
that.
At
least
I
don't
know
if
this
is
bad
to
say,
but
at
least
it
was
just
the
tip,
hopefully
you're
able
to
recover
fully
okay.
So
as
far
as
meetings
go
I'll,
just
pull
up
our
monthly
list
here.
So
let's
see
what
are
we
on
here,
the
19th,
so
we've
already
done
the
bionic
design
we
already
did
the
chapters
leading
we
already
did
enable
education.
A
Well,
then,
I
definitely
want
to
try
to
make
it
for
this
one
and
hopefully
we'll
have
rick
there
as
well,
and
then
that
leaves
us
with
the
focus
follow-up
workshop
next
week
and
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
have
kyle
reeser.
That's
another
good
one
kyle
for
those
who
don't
know
has
recently
been
made,
the
global
ambassador
for
the
creality
3d
printer
brand,
and
so
they
are
looking
to
kind
of
send
him
around
the
world.
A
A
B
Sure
and
apologies
in
advance
the
kiddos
are
running
around
upstairs.
So
there's.
B
Noise,
so
right,
let
me
let
me
pull
up
my
notes
here.
So
the
afghanistan
initiative
lots
of
man.
This
is
this-
is
starting
to
get
pretty
exciting.
So
I've
been
in
touch
with
my
contact
in
afghanistan
and
kabul.
Just
as
a
reminder,
he
is
the
director
of
the
only
functioning
orthopedic
hospital
in
afghanistan
right
now
and
they
have
they're
just
overwhelmed.
B
They
have
no
materials,
they
have
very
limited
resources,
they
have
very
limited
staff,
because
you
know
people
who
have
money,
not
all
of
them,
but
many
of
them
were
able
to
get
out
of
the
country,
did.
B
B
So
it's
it's.
It's
a
pretty
dire
situation
and
it's
one
of
the
the
reasons
I'm
I'm
really
anxious
to
get
moving
and
start
building
up
some
momentum
toward
sending
assistance
there.
We
had
a
really
productive
conversation,
because
internet
is
so
choppy
on
the
ground.
There.
B
I've
had
a
whatsapp
conversation
with
with
and
again
I'm
not
naming
names,
but
with
my
contact
there
and
my
my
colleague
who
is
his
who's,
a
good
friend
of
his
and
and
colleague
who's
from
afghanistan,
who's
kind
of
been
our
go-between,
but
we
ironed
out
some
details
made
sure
that
we
aligned
interests.
He
was
telling
me
that
he
is
really
hoping
you
know
he
understands
that
we
primarily
deal
in
pediatric
cases
and
primarily
dealing
upper
extremity
amputees.
B
I
let
her
know
that
we
do
have
some
teams
who
have
fabricated,
lower
extremity
devices
in
the
past.
B
I
didn't
want
to
over
commit,
but
did
let
him
know
that
that's
something
that
has
been
done
by
the
community,
that
there
has
been
some
orthotics
production
by
the
community
as
well,
but
there
is
a
huge
need
for
generic
orthotics,
and
I
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
out
there
as
a
bug
in
this
community's
ear
that
if
you
have
any
experience
with
that
or
if
that's
something
that
interests
you
in
addition
to
just
building
hands,
not
to
be
reductive,
building
hands
is
amazing,
but
in
addition
to
building
prosthetic
hands,
if
you're
interested
in
building
just
some
generic
orthotic
tools,
those
could
be
mass
produced
and
shipped
once
we
get
the
logistics
figured
out
and
it
would
be
tremendously
helpful.
B
Speaking
of
logistics,
that's
really
the
big
one.
He
with
contact
on
the
ground,
the
director
of
that
orthopedic
hospital.
He
is
currently
exploring
avenues
of
discussion
with
the
icr,
the
international
red
cross,
the
who
and
unicef
they
have
planes,
or
at
least
plain
that
bring
in
supplies
almost
daily.
B
However,
we
would
have
to
partner
with
them
in
an
official
capacity
more
likely
than
not
in
order
to
make
use
of
those
planes
to
ship
things,
and
my
understanding
is-
or
at
least
my
impression
is
that
the
easiest
route
would
be
if
we
were
able
to
get
some
kind
of
global
buy-in
from
our
community.
B
When
we
started
getting
more
teams
building
things
on
mass,
then
probably
the
best
course
of
action
would
be
to
build
and
assemble
ship
to
a
single
location,
probably
to
one
of
us
in
the
us
and
then
from
that
location,
ship
out
in
regular
shipments
to
recipients
there.
The
other-
and
I
apologize
for
blasting
through
this
just
trying
to
get
through
these
notes.
B
Yeah,
the
the
other
primary
consideration
is
that,
for
my
own
sake,
for
the
sake
of
due
diligence,
I
think
that
we
need
to
get
a
little
bit
more
of
our
infrastructure
in
place,
building
up
cases
assigning
case
numbers
to
recipients.
It's
not
going
to
be
because
we
won't
have
a
person
on
the
ground
it
assuming
you
know,
I'm
I'm
speaking
with
a
lot
of
assumptions
right
now,
so
so
bear
with
me.
B
But
assuming
that
we
move
forward
with
this
and
assuming
this
is
something
that
the
community
supports
and
people
get
on
board
with.
If
we
are
able
to
produce
a
large
number
of
hands,
then
we're
going
to
need
to
do
some
kind
of
reference
number
for
each
case
and
see
if
we
can
get
specific
chapters
or
specific
individuals
to
be
responsible
for
specific
recipients
and
track
them
over
time,
so
that
as
maintenance
is
required
or
new
hands
are
required.
B
We
we
know
who
to
contact
to
procure
those
first
before
looking
elsewhere.
The
last
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
I
think
that
this
would
be
a
just
a
tremendously
helpful
thing.
I
think
this
would
help
a
lot
of
people
who
had
you
know
nothing
to
do
with
the
conflict
there,
but
we're
still
horribly
affected
by
it
and
now
can't
leave
the
country
for
treatment,
because
the
borders
have
been
effectively
closed.
B
Assuming
we
can
get
everything
together,
assuming
we
can
find
a
logistics
path
to
get
shipment
out,
assuming
we
can
get
our
framework
in
place
so
that
we're
able
to
track
cases
and
start
getting
an
actual
list
for
for
visibility
to
make
sure
that
we
know
where
things
are
going
and
when
once
we've
gotten
all
of
that
at
a
sort
of
cadence.
What
I'd
really
like
to
do
down
the
line?
The
longer
term
is
see
about
procuring
us
some
resources
for
them
to
make.
B
You
know
effectively
a
cobble
an
enable
kabul
chapter,
seeing
about
sending
a
3d,
printer
and
and
filament
that
way,
which
of
course
would
require
funds
from
enable
to
obtain
that,
obviously
not
not
first
steps
and
not
what
we're
looking
at
immediately,
but
just
giving
this
this
hospital
and
the
staff
there.
Some
means
to
produce
these
devices
themselves
and
some
training,
I
think,
can
go
a
long
way.
A
So
let
me
just
fill
in
if
you
don't
mind,
two
yeah
there's
two
different
things
that
will
will
come
into
play
here
that
just
from
our
history
that
I'll
point
out
number
one
is
there's
been
a
there's,
been
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
As
far
as.
A
To
what
extent
can
we
be
effective
in
helping
people
by
making
devices
remotely
generic
devices
scale
them?
You
know
in
some
standard
scale
and
then
shipping
them
off
to
somebody
and
putting
them
on
as
opposed
to
working
with
somebody
directly
customizing
the
device
for
them,
etc.
What
I'm
getting
at
is
the
a
past
volunteer
put
forth
the
sort
of
theory.
His
position
was
that
we
really
don't
succeed
most
of
the
time
when,
when
people
just
make
devices
and
ship
them
off
that,
usually
they
don't
end
up
fitting
right.
A
They
don't
end
up
getting
used
and
the
cases
where
we
do
see
success
are
where
you're
working
with
them
in
person
doing
the
fitting
doing
the
follow-up,
etc.
And
so
my
only
question
here
would
be-
and
I
think
the
medical
professionals
are
the
key
you
know.
Can
we
get
them
trained
to
the
point
where
they'll
the
doctors
there
will
be
able
to
be
involved
in
sort
of
customizing
as
needed,
maybe
doing
some
thermal
forming
to
help
these
things
fit
better.
B
Exactly
so,
that's
why
I'm
not
concerned
as
concerned
as
I
would
be
in
another
situation.
What
we
have
is
a
group
of
trained
medical
professionals
who
just
don't
have
the
ability
on
site
there
are
our
orthotists
and
prosthetists
who
are
making
do,
but
if
they
had
access
to
this,
you
know
these
materials,
these
base
hands,
and
I
guess
the
other
thing
is
that
what
I'm?
What
I'm
talking
about
is
not
you
know
producing
these
things
without
any
data.
Ideally,
there
would
be
photos.
There
would
be
measurements
right.
A
It
for
that
person
exactly
yeah
that
makes
a
big
difference
and
that
combined
with
having
those
those
medical
contacts,
the
prosthetist
on
site,
I
think
that
will
ensure
success.
The
other
aspect
that
I
wanted
to
mention
that
you
seem
to
be
that
you're
kind
of
touching
on
here
is
something
else
that
we've
talked
about,
which
is
this
idea
of
I
I
don't
know,
call
it
a
maker
space
in
a
box.
This
idea
of
basically
coming
up
with
a
template
sort
of
recipe
of
you
know
when
we're
ready
to
spin
up.
A
You
know
a
new
enable
sort
of
facility
in
a
new
area.
You
know
what
do
we
need
a
very
detailed
sort
of
recipe
of
you
know.
Obviously
you
need
a
facility
and
what
kind
of
requirements
are
there
for
the
facility?
You
need
stable
power,
you
need,
you
know,
running
water,
you
know
what
are
those
things
that
you
need?
We
need
a
3d
printer
we
need
to
have.
You
know
the
different
materials
that
they
need
to
make
and
customize
these
things.
The
the
training
aspects
of
you
know
how
to
get
them
up
to
speed.
A
You
know
just
and
we
haven't
thought
through
what
all
of
those
ingredients
are
even
but
this
idea
of
coming
up
with
a
well-documented
sort
of
recipe
that
includes
sourcing
guidelines,
what
we
need
to
buy,
how
to
get
it
shipped
there.
You
know
just
everything
so
that
when
this
time
comes
where
we
need
to
spin
up
a
new,
you
know
maker
space,
whether
it
be
in
kabul
or
somewhere
else.
We
can
just
you,
know,
pull
the
trigger
and
you
know
start
working
our
way
through
the
steps
right.
We
haven't
really
documented.
B
Perfect
yep
that
sounds
wonderful
and-
and
I
think
that
there's
such
an
immediate
need
it's
hard
to
sort
of
pause
and
say
well
hold
on.
You
know.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
things
together
on
our
end
before
we
just
start
coming
back.
B
B
Exactly
yeah,
that's
that's
exactly
right
well,
and
I
also
think
this
is
where
you
know
working
with
the
team
in
brazil
and
looking
at
what
they've
done
and
how
they've
worked
with
with
within
the
medical
community
and
how
they're
able
to
operate
in
that
framework.
A
B
A
Juan
manon
says:
wouldn't
a
generic
device
enable
the
care
provider
to
introduce
the
device
to
a
recipient
to
determine
if
it's
a
potential
solution,
fair
enough
yeah,
so
that's
part
well,
usually
part
of
what
we
do.
I
you
know
at
the
beginning
of
this.
You
know
relationship.
I
have
no
doubt
that
we
would
send
a
handful
of
devices
to
these
doctors
just
so
they
have
some
samples
on
hand.
They
can
see,
they
can
see
how
they
move.
A
They
can
you
know,
and
those
would
yeah
those
would
be
available
for
them
to
show
to
these
prospective
patients.
So
they
have
an
idea
of
what
we're
talking
about
here.
Absolutely
we
would
want
them
to
have
some
samples
that
they
could
show
them,
but
I
I
assume,
do
you
have
any
any
idea
adam
of
like
what
is
most
common
here
I
mean:
are:
are
these
mostly
amputations
that
we're
talking
about?
Are
they
typically,
you
know
wrist
type
amputations
are
there?
A
Are
there
any
kind
of
commonalities
that
we
know
that
we're
dealing
with
here.
B
So
that
that's
what
I'm
working
on
right
now
with
with
my
doctor
on
the
ground
he
is,
he
has
sent
me
a
list
of
generic
device
means
he
has
indicated
that
they
could
be
able
to
gather
information
on
as
many
as
20
to
30
amputees
per
week
to
draw
to
our
attention.
So
a
pretty
large
number
I
mean
flow.
A
Right,
I
I
have
to
assume
that
most
of
these
are
going
to
need
arm
devices
not
hand
devices,
because
most
of
them
are
probably
not
going
to
have
functioning
risks.
At
least
that's
my
guess,
but.
B
Right,
I
think
I
think
it'll
vary,
and
I
really
don't
want
to
engage
in
too
much
guesswork
just
because
I
don't
know
okay,
you
know
these
are
crush
injuries.
These
are
this
is
explosive
damage.
This
is,
this
is
a
lot
of
stuff.
In
addition
to
the
you
know,
sort
of
endemic
causes
of
amputation
that
exists
outside
of
wartime.
You
know
that
those
are
still
happening
too.
You
know
circulatory
issues
and
diabetes
and
all
that
stuff.
B
So
I
I
think
that
the
the
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention-
which
I
I
believe
is
worthy
of
consideration-
discussion
here
at
some
point-
is
that
there's
also
a
huge
number
of
adults
who
who
could
make
use
of
these
devices.
I
know
that's
not
typically
the
scope
of
what
we
we
do,
but
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
forward
as
a
potential
avenue
to
you
know,
maybe
help
a
larger
demographic
people.
Absolutely
honestly,
it
really.
A
Is
I
would
I
don't
know
if
it's
an
equal
part
of
what
we
do
these
days,
but
the
idea
that
we
make
devices
for
kids?
That's
that's
really.
You
know
that's
going
10
years
back,
that's
how
we
started.
It
was
mostly
great
kids,
but
no
we
we,
we
really
don't
limit
it
to
children
anymore.
We've
discovered
as
we've
as
we
moved
past
the
us
and
started
getting
in
other
countries.
We,
it
became
clear
quickly
that
there
are
plenty
of
other
people
with
with
different
needs.
A
You
know
do
basic
things
and
so
yeah
yeah
we're
definitely
equally
open
to
helping
people
of
all
ages.
B
That's
great
yeah,
so
I
will
I'll
be
sure
to
communicate
that
as
well.
I
just
I
wasn't
sure
whether
or
not
that
was
you
know
that
was
central
to
our
mission,
so.
A
Great
okay,
so
that's
afghanistan!
Anything
else
here
you
want
to
cover
from
your
notes.
B
Just
some
some
general
housekeeping
things,
I'm
working
on
a
number
of
initiatives
in
addition
to
the
afghanistan
project
for
anyone
listening,
I
have
created
in
the
forum
and
outreach
and
advancement
space.
It's
pretty
bare
bones
right
now,
but
I
do
have
a
link
to
a
google
sheet
that
provides
a
high
level
outline
of
what
I'm
working
on
these
days.
A
couple
of
things
that
I'm
interested
just
to
kind
of
give.
B
The
highlights,
in
addition
to
some
some
details
about
the
afghan
initiative,
I'm
toying
around
with
the
idea
of
some
kind
of
partnership
between
rehabilitation,
hospitals
and
centers
that
are
in
communities
that
have
publicly
accessible
maker
spaces,
trying
to
see
if
enable,
can
sort
of
broker
or
facilitate
some
kind
of
handshake
agreements
between
the
therapists
who
run
these
rehab
centers
and
the
people
who
are
running
these
maker
labs.
B
I'm
gonna
run
a
little
test
kitchen
here
in
kansas
city,
we've
got
the
what
is
now
called
ability,
kc,
which
full
disclosure
is
my
former
employer
and
union
station,
which
has
a
makerspace
I'm
going
to
see
if
we
can
get
any
kind
of
functioning
arrangement
between
the
two
to
print
orthotics
devices.
B
In
hands
to
see
whether
or
not
there
is
a
way
that
can
be
maintained
by
sort
of
having
a
therapist
led
a
partnership
with
this
lab
that
is
right
down
the
street,
I
think,
could
be
pretty
cool
and
if,
if
it
works,
that
could
be
something
that
could
be.
You
know
spun
out
across
the
country
in
any
areas
where
those
people
where
those
those
organizations
are
geographically
nearby.
A
A
B
A
And,
and
forgive
my
ignorance
but
clarify
for
me
what
you
mean
when
we
talk
about
orthotic
devices,
are
we
talking
about
like
braces
or
what?
What
exactly
are
we
talking
about?
There.
B
So
it's
a
huge
yeah,
great
question:
it's
it's
a
huge
category
of
things,
so
it's
everything
ranging
from
like
braces
and
and
simple.
You
know
simple
tools
to
help
facilitate
either
a
healing
process
or
some
kind
of
functional
activity.
B
So,
for
example,
I
I
would
call
like
the
bike
mount
that
that
you
showcased
in
the
beginning
of
this
call
somewhere
in
between
a
prosthesis
and
an
orthosis,
especially
the
one
that's
mounted
on
the
bike
itself.
It's
a
tool
that
helps
to
shore
up
some
kind
of
functional
limitation.
B
So
a
shoe
insert,
for
example,
is
an
orthotic
device.
You
know
something
to
help
to
correct
for
flat
feet
right,
that's
a
very
simple
orthotic
device,
so
an
occupational
therapist
could,
in
my
mind
where
I
see
this
going,
is,
could
work
with
someone
who
is
experienced
with
cad
programs
and
say
this
is
what
the
patient
needs.
B
A
Kind
of
working-
I'm
probably
not
gonna-
find
it
here
quickly,
so
I
might
have
to
follow,
but
there
was
an
organization
that
had
shared
a
really
nice
3d,
printable
brace
design
that
we
were
looking
at
for
you
know
potentially
for
helping
people
like
in
in
afghanistan
and
other,
but
it
I'll
have
to
find
the
design.
But
it
looked
like
this
type
of
thing
and
there.
A
The
reason
something
like
this
is
is
appealing
is
there's
the
potential
for
something
like
this
to
be
printed
like
flat,
and
then
all
the
doctors
would
have
to
do
is
thermoform.
It
apply
heat
and
just
kind
of
wrap
it
around,
and
so
they
they
can
be
pretty
easily
customized
on
site.
So
something
like
that
would
be
really
easy
for
our
folks
to
print.
You
just
need
that
yeah.
B
I'll
tell
you
probably
the
reason
I'm
with
enable
is
because
of
a
company
that
I
believe
called
themselves
gecko,
skin,
okay
gosh.
This
is
back
in
like
2013,
I
want
to
say
I
was
a
student
at
a
clinic
and
a
sales
rep
came
in
and
brought
basically
what
you're
showing
there
that
that
brace
with
the
sort
of
web
design
around
the
wrist
and
showed
how
they
do
a
3d
scan
of
a
person.
That's
what
they're
doing
here,
yeah
exactly
that,
that's
exactly
it
and
then,
and
then
they
can
print
this.
This
highly.
B
I
believe
what
they
were
doing
was
showing
how
it
could
replace
a
hard
cast.
You
know
like
for
a
broken
bone.
That's
right,
yeah,
that's
what
it
looks
like
yeah
and
that
that's
really
where
my
interest
in
3d
printing
came
from.
So
that's
interesting,
you're
showing
that
here
because
that's
you
know
that
kind
of
takes
me
back
to
to
to
it.
A
B
Yeah
I've
got
concerns
about
yeah,
I
I
don't
know
enough
about
it
to
speak
intelligently
about
it.
My.
B
Are
that
maybe
it
doesn't
quite
do
the
job
they
wanted
to,
but
it
does
it
just
doesn't
provide
the
full
level
of
support
that,
like
a
plaster
cast
or
you
know,
more
modern
materials
might
do
but
sure
well.
A
But
you're
certainly
more
of
an
expert
than
me
that
might
be
interesting
to
explore
on
a
materials
basis,
because
I
could
see
if
something
like
this
was
printed
in
a
you
know.
I
don't
know
a
pla
or
an
abs.
You
know
that
might
not
be
ideal,
but
maybe
like
a
polycarbonate
that
has
really
high
rigidity.
Sure
right
there's
something
like
that.
I
wonder
if
it
would
be
worth
playing
with
to
see
if,
with
the
right
material,
you
might
get
good
results
with
something
like
this,
but.
B
A
B
Well-
and
that
kind
of
brings
me
to
another
item,
I'm
working
on,
which
is
this-
this
healthcare
and
rehabilitation
roundtable
trying
to
get
more
people
who
are
healthcare
providers
in
the
enable
community
sort
of
in
one
space
to
talk
and
talk
about
what
they've
been
seeing
and
where,
where
we
we
might
be
able
to
help
steer,
enables
policies
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we're
we're
aligning
with
the
needs
of
people
on
on,
and
also
what
I
was
referring
to
earlier,
making
sure
that
we're
collaborating
with
the
care
team
to
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
individuals
who
are
receiving
devices.
B
I
think,
would
go
a
long
way
to
being
more
closely
embraced.
I
think,
and
seen
as
a
viable,
a
viable
organization,
other
things
that
I'm
looking
at
seeing
if
we
can
kind
of
expand
our
knowledge
base.
I
know
that's.
Basically,
it
sounds
like
that's
what
deloitte
is
going
to
be
doing
with
us,
seeing
how
we
can
better
arrange
the
information
in
the
website
make
it
more
accessible.
B
B
I
know
that
we
have
the
check
process
for
a
person
to
be
accepted
as
a
chapter
in
the
enable,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
we
don't
have
something
like
that
today,
just
some
kind
of
standard
like
minimum
a
quality
check
to
make
sure
that
things
are
functioning
as
possible,
that
that
can
be
attached.
A
A
That
is
again
an
area
that
some
of
our
groups
and
chapters
have
done
a
very
good
job
on.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
matter
of
finding
which
ones
and
getting
a
hold
of,
for
example,
I
know
maria
escuela,
who
is
one
of
our
chapter
leaders,
runs
a
partner
organization
and
they
have
developed
a
it
was
in
a
spreadsheet
form.
It
was
a
very
detailed,
robust
kind
of
qa
checklist
process
that
they
might.
B
And
that's
what
I'm,
referring
to
with
the
knowledge
base
is
making
sure
that
materials
that
are
developed
are
easily
shared
and
accessible
so
that
they
can
be
applied
broadly.
A
That's
great
yeah.
We
haven't
done
a
good
job
on
the
sharing
side,
but
I
they're
out
there.
So
I
think
the
challenges
are
just
going
to
be
collecting,
what's
been
built
and
made
available.
So
there's
there's,
like
I
said
maria
would
be
one
that
we
could
reach
out
to
to
see
if,
if
they
can
share
theirs,
I'm
pretty
sure
some
of
those
more
mature
chapters
that
I
mentioned,
like
france,
brazil
and,
and
probably
a
couple
of
others.
They
probably
have
very
similar
qa
checklist
that
they
could
share.
A
B
Okay,
perfect,
the
only
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
for
today's
call
is
the
sorry,
I'm
distracted
by
work
question
all
right,
I'm
off
teams
and
I'm
back
the
the
question
of
visibility,
and
this
is
what
I
I
mentioned
about
social
media
and
possibly
leveraging
tick
tock.
B
Just
putting
this
out
there.
I've
also
created
a
space
on
the
hub
for
sharing
social
media.
B
You
know
video
files
and
pictures
if
you
have
a
release
for
a
recipient
of
a
device,
you
know
a
photo
release
so
that
their
image
can
be
used
in
promotional
materials
and
like,
please
feel
free
to
drop
both
the
release
file
and
those
images
or
video
files
in
that
section
of
the
hub,
it
is
called,
I
believe,
just
social
media
planning,
yep,
okay,
great
yeah,
so
if
you
could
just
drop
those
there,
if
you
have
it
also,
if
you
have
experience
in
video
editing
or
if
you
just
watch
a
lot
of
tik
tok
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
on
the
on
the
hub,
and
I
I'd
love
to
get
your
insight.
B
I've
been
trying
to
familiarize
myself
I've
been
using
the
recommended
video
editing
tools.
It's
pretty
easy,
but
I
also
recognize
my
own
limitations
and
would
love
to
run
it
past.
Some
people,
who
are
maybe
a
little
bit
more
savvy
on
that
front
than
I
am
so
if
you
do
have
an
interest
there
and
if
you
have
some
time
to
spare,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out,
because
I
could.
I
could
really
use
the
help.
A
Sounds
good,
in
fact,
you
know
we
never
really
established
a
clear
date
on
this,
because
there's
so
many
different
sort
of
events
in
our
history
to
go
by,
but
by
most
accounts.
We
are
in
the
midst
of
our
10-year
anniversary
here.
As
far
as
oh.
B
A
When
the
the
first
sort
of
3d
printed
device
was
was
made,
so
what
we
had
talked
about
a
while
back
earlier
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
was
as
opposed
to
trying
to
pull
some
big
event
together,
which
is
always
hard,
especially
with
an
ongoing
pandemic.
A
We
thought-
maybe
we
would
do
kind
of
what
you're
doing
here,
collect
videos
and
photos
from
the
community,
including
not
just
videos
of
the
recipients
but
videos,
little
video
clips
from
different
members
of
the
community
talking
about
their
experience
of
why
enable
has
been
meaningful
to
them
and
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
and
basically
put
together
a
montage
in
celebration.
B
A
Welcome
he's
not.
B
A
Us
yet,
okay,
so
tell
me
more
about
tick,
tock
how's,
that
going.
A
B
Yeah,
which
is
why
I
I'd
love
anyone
who's
a
little
bit
more
experienced
there
to
lend
a
hand
really
I
just
I
I
need
video
files.
I
need
source
files
to
get
a
sense
for
how
this
should
be
done,
and
I
have
none.
Okay,.
A
Well,
so
now
we've
got
the
collection
bucket.
Here
we
need
to
get
people
to
start
dropping
them
in
there
exactly
I'll
have
to
think
I
don't
have
much.
I
know
I
have
the
one
video
I
did
with
an
adult
jose
delgado
years
back
when
I
got
started
with
enable
that
turned
into
a
fox
news
thing,
so
that
video
has
always
been
shared
publicly,
but
I
don't
know
how
how
useful
that
would
be.
It's
not
our
typical
sort
of
target
demographic
yeah,
but
I
think
this
is
a
good
start.
A
We
just
need
just
the
only
my
only
comment
here
would
be
when
you
create
a
space
like
this.
It's
always
about.
There's
there's
got
to
be
some
promotion.
You
gotta,
you're
gonna
have
to
post
things
like
in
the
main
forum
and
not
just
once.
You're
gonna
have
to
like
repeatedly
invite
people
to
share
some
photos
here.
You're
gonna
have
to
really
push
people
to
contribute.
A
single
invite,
just,
unfortunately,
is
gonna,
get
kind
of
lost
in
the
noise
of
the
hub.
B
Yeah,
that's
going
to
be
the
same
rule
for
putting
videos
on
tick,
tock
too,
and-
and
it's
very
much
not
in
my
my
nature-
to
to
pester
me.
A
You
know
we
can
maybe
ask
ben
to
help
us
with
that
yeah
others,
but
it'll
it'll
take
some
time,
but
it's
a
good
start.
A
Are
you
hearing
us
now,
john
still,
not
hearing
us?
Okay,
all
right?
Well,
so
thank
you
for
those
updates
and
again
for
everything,
you're
doing
adam,
really
tremendous.
B
Yeah,
no,
it's
it's!
My
pleasure
and
I've
been
I've
been
waiting
for
a
chance
to
do
something
like
this
for
a
long
time,
and
I
just
I
haven't,
had
the
bandwidth
and
I'm
gonna
make
use
of
it.
While
I
do
so.
A
Sounds
like
you're
with
us
twice
now,
I'm
with
you
once.
I
hope
all
right,
we're
actually
just
kind
of
getting
towards
the
end.
Here.
John
we've
got
some
great
updates
from
adam.
I
hope
you'll
have
time
to
watch
at
least
some
of
the
recording
later,
but
I
I
guess,
let
me
pause
and
ask
you
if
you
have
anything
to
share
with
us
or
anything
that
you
wanted
to
talk
about
today
since
we're
down
to
our
last
10
minutes
here,
john.
A
No,
I'm
sorry!
I
missed
it,
but
I'm
glad
I
I
can
catch
up
and
I
will
do
it.
I've
been
keeping
an
eye
on
what
you've
been
doing
adam
and
I
think
it's
really
terrific.
A
The
invite
to
this
new
enabled
leadership
space
that
he
set
up.
I
don't
know
if
I
did.
A
That
you,
you
may
well
have
yeah.
It's
called
the
enable
leadership
team
just
go
ahead
and
join
that
or
accept
the
invite.
When
you
have
a
chance,
we've
only
had
a
only
a
few
people
have
accepted
so
far,
so
I
just
wanted
to
cool.
I'm
gonna
try
to
get
all
this
in
there
and
that'll
be
right.
That
might
be
easier
than
trying
to
coordinate
a
zoom
meeting
with
everyone.
A
We
can
start
the
discussion
going
in
there
and
we'll
invite
ed
grigg
into
there
as
well,
so
that
he
has
some
visibility
into
what's
going
on
and
actually
give
us
a
start,
excellent.
B
I
set
some
top-notch
clip
art
for
the
the
banner
so
very.
A
B
A
All
right,
so
we
talked
about
the
potential
project
with
deloitte.
We're
gonna
try
to
get
ed
plugged
into
that
new
space.
To
get
some
discussion
going
next
week,
we'll
have
a
presentation
from
kyle
about
his
project
in
tanzania,
so
that'll
be
the
focus
follow-up
next
friday,
that'll
be
very
informative,
might
have
some
helpful
insights
for
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
afghanistan
too.
A
I
did
an
interview
recently
with
rick
williams
for
3d
universe,
untethered,
and
that
is
now
finished
and
uploaded,
and
I
just
have
to
push
the
go
live
button
which
I
will
do
right
after
this
meeting,
so
that
will
be
posted
in
the
hub
within
the
hour.
It's
a
good.
We
had
a
good
chat
and
for
those
of
you
who
want
to
get
to
know
rick
a
little
bit
more
in
his
history
and
the
work
he's
up
to
it's
it's
less
than
an
hour.
A
I
think
it
was
about
45
minute
video
worth
checking
out
and
I
think
that's
about
all
I
have
for
today.
I
don't
want
to
go
into
the
rest
of
these.
These
were
from
from
before.
So
let
me
just
ask
once
more:
if
anyone
else
here
has
anything
you
want
to
chat
about
real
quick
before
we
wrap
up.
A
Okay,
well
thanks
everyone.
I
hope
to
see
some
of
you
for
the
new
member
meetup,
just
over
an
hour
from
now
adam
will
be
giving
us
a
special
presentation,
and
otherwise
we'll
see
you
next
week.
Thanks
all
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Bye.