Eclipse Che Community, 9 Aug 2021

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Topics:

1. No other browsers than Google Chrome is supported https://github.com/eclipse/che/issues/20236 (Serhii L)
2. Community call moderation (Valerii)
3. Should we support single-user support? (Serhii L)

A

Hello, everyone and welcome to the cheer community meeting today is the 9th of august and as usual, let's start from the release sections so chair 7.34.1 was released.

A

You can see the issue was closed and it's done.

A

Today we have three topics: the first one is from srahi about supported, browsers. You could use startlist and present your first topic.

B

Yeah, hello, everyone on the new dashboard. We found a lost piece from the old dashboard. It's letting users know about and supported browser and for old dashboard and currently for new dashboard. It's only safari because we know that it's not going to work, but this time we went even further and we figured out that actually qe does not verify anything else than google chrome and it's the supported version.

B

It may be the only officially supported version, so I would like to ask opinions before doing it live alive, that we support on the dashboard site the warning that pops up on any other browser than google chrome. So we will advise user that to use google chrome and expect that that something may not work. If it's not google pro, we may do it in the like configurable way that some installations, if administrators, understand the risk they may disable that volume if they need something else than google home. But it's it's.

B

It's going to be the default here. Yeah. This warning any objections.

C

B

We don't see the right path, uh yeah. I think at this point it's not possible to close it, but we used to have it closable we can. We can try to make it to return to the back, so it makes sense for users to close it, but it's going to be pop up again after refreshing, a page.

D

Okay, what about um chromium and other browser that may use the same engine behind the scene? Are we supporting them or not?.

B

uh Well, we everything we don't test. We don't support right, because we can guarantee that it's going to work correctly.

B

So user may need to accept that risk to be aware of that.

E

So something could work differently.

D

Is that possible to test toward the browser.

B

uh Is the question to kill you.

D

Probably, but at least chromium to me is uh is the one to help, because some people that don't want to have the the google brand are branding. They want to have a pure open source uh product, and we are pretty sure that it works like the same way for us as it works for chrome. So it would make sense to have that in our test. If this is the uh what we make, how we make browser, support or.

B

Not yeah, maybe it makes sense to raise the same question next week when mitchell will be back from pto and he will be providing us answers if he can test something else than google chrome.

D

If he's using selenium webdriver, it should be possible. You could use any because with any browser, normally.

B

uh Okay yeah, I I'm going to initiate email thread and we will continue there if and if needed. I will raise this again on next community call and we will figure out the best way to proceed.

A

Cool. Thank you. Maybe another comments or ideas.

A

In that way, let's go to another topic. The second topic is from me and it's about community call moderation, so I'm going to be a moderator next week and in the end of september, but after that you will need a new person or a system to choose the moderator.

A

So I want to ask the community if there are any volunteers who would like to try that and come forward.

F

Let's make a schedule and everyone will participate in the moderation, because nobody wants.

D

Maybe you can in in the dark. You can add a section where we would have like the the next moderators for the next weeks and if there is nobody's uh with moderating, we can uh can ask uh yeah. I can do that if you like, but.

A

Yeah it's an idea. We can have some.

A

Rotation system of moderation of moderators and each volunteer can can do that yep. But since we don't have many people on the call, I I'm going to write in a mail.

A

We'll ask about.

A

That okay, so another comments about that.

A

In that way, let's go to the last topic, it's also from srihe, and it is about a single user support. He could you present it. Please.

B

uh Yeah sure so uh at some time ago we kind of stopped supporting single user installation.

B

We declared that there is a way to to deploy it, but you need to to know that it's uh check cluster back server, custom chip properties and so on so like not easy way to implement, but it was. It was possible to do it.

B

But uh at this point we are introducing the port backend and actually we are going to just make it impossible at all to deploy chai in single user support, and I wanted to ask any objection on dropping fully dropping single user support or we need to uh like put the forced on making it possible with new dashboard backend as well, which I would not do. But still. I would like to ask opinions.

D

What are the benefits, except for for the single user support? What are the benefits, except the fact that it takes more less resources.

B

I don't see any benefit, apart from the less resources consuming.

B

So everything should be possible even in better way, with multi-user support.

B

It's not going to be the case for real usage for sure. Nobody would like to install it in the real cluster that everybody is able to access.

B

Somebody would like to install it locally, but it's an effort we need to put- and maybe it's the time to drop that just.

B

Okay, if no objections.

C

Yeah we have some people using the single map.

C

E

C

Some people using the single.

B

uh Bravo, there was, there were a few reports, the box reports, so it was broken a few times because nobody tested it and it appeared to be fixed it and I even not sure if it currently working or not so there are a few usages, probably but nobody pretty nobody uses.

D

Yeah you can disable it and see. If someone is uh is complaining.

B

Yeah, just then advice not to use it switch to multi-user support.

E

Terry, could we send an email that we now are officially not supporting it, because I know quite a lot of places where encode this switches exist single user as multi-user.

E

So we can officially remove that code after the announcement.

B

It's going to be the second step, if nobody minds, if no objections, no strong objections, then I will proceed to publishing the email and we are going to drop it. Some components need to be adopted.

B

Maybe even documentation should be changed somewhere. Gctl should should drop the support of multi-user, simple user flex, because it's not the case anymore. So.

E

Yeah, it's not going to be- maybe that's worse of the issue just to record to the unknown places like the server war file, jctl stuff, like that, so we can track the efforts uh cleaning up leftovers.

B

Yeah, I will thank you, try to organize it yeah. If no other comments, then that's all about this topic.

C

And do we have a change as well to discuss that.

B

If I got your question correctly, I will create an issue on eclipse share site.

A

Thank you here. Another comments.

A

Okay, in that way, anything else to discuss.

A

Today, if no.

F

A

You everyone for attending, thank you for on for taking notes and see you next week.

F