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A
B
Hey
pujo,
thank
you.
So
much
very
excited
to
be
here.
We've
got
a
rock
star
lineup
of
panelists.
Today,
I'm
very
very
excited
to
hear
about
their
their
work
and
their
experience
it's
international
women's
day,
and
this
event
is
particularly
around
celebrating
this
day
and
then
talking
about
what
we
opportunities
and
challenges
for
further
inclusion
in
the
space.
B
So
today
we
have
with
us
annette
who
works
with
ethereum
developers
and
represents
a
specific
perspective
in
the
ethereum
community
and
we'll
be
learning
about
our
background
in
more
great
detail.
I'm
not
really
going
to
get
into
everybody's
background
and
let
them
cover
it,
and
then
we
have
reu
who's.
The
chair
of
the
cascadia
blockchain
council
and
an
og
in
the
in
the
crypto
space
did
an
ico.
B
B
B
C
You
know
we
get
charged
an
extra
75
cents
if
you're
a
credit
card
is
under
five
dollars
like
when
you're
buying
a
coffee
right.
It's
because
most
of
these
traditional
financial
systems
like
trifei,
is
not
meant
to
handle
micro
payments,
so
anything
under
five
dollars.
No
bueno,
I
mean
there's
too
many
middlemen
enough
people
to
pay,
not
enough
money
to
pay
everybody
under
five
dollars,
and
so
I
started
working
at
the
startup.
C
Eight
tenths
of
a
penny,
like
that's,
that's
unreal
right,
like
surreal,
and
so
I
started
learning
about
cryptocurrencies
and
ethereum
decentralized
applications
became
really
really
exciting,
and
then
I
nose
dived
into
the
world
of
bitcoin,
and
you
know
I've
never
been
able
to
leave
ever
since
did
I
answer
your
question.
Jamil.
B
D
D
D
D
I've
been
an
attorney
for
about
20
years,
and
I,
when
I
worked
for
big
law
in
dc,
I
did
a
lot
of
work
in
corporate
compliance,
white-collar
defense
and
especially
in
ofac
sanctions
and
anti-money
laundering,
and
so
I
then
I
spent
a
few
years
in
house
and
when
I
came
back
to
private
practice,
it
was
right
around
2016,
2017
and
some
of
the
other
partners
in
my
firm
started
talking
about
blockchain
and
I
looked
into
it.
I
thought
this
is
a
great
place
for
somebody.
D
D
B
E
I
haven't
found
it,
but
somebody
from
the
founding
members
reached
out
to
me
and
asked
me
if
I
can
help
them
out
with
organizing
their
councils.
So
since
that
I've
been
with
their
magicians
in
between
now
and
then
I
work
with
a
couple
of
more
projects,
but
right
now,
I'm
still
with
ethereum
magicians
and
I'm
organizing
councils
and
hosting
discussions,
and
I'm
also
leading
the
nfd
standards
working
group,
which
is
a
documentation
and
working
group
for
nft
developers
and
all
things
behind.
Nft
standards
and
ercs.
B
F
Yeah
no
no
problem
and
what
an
all-star
crew.
Oh
my
gosh,
I'm
like
hearing
everybody's
backgrounds,
it's
really
impressive
yeah,
so
my
name
is
zaji.
I
know
the
name's
a
little
tough
so
and
I've
been
in
the
space
since
2017.
I
actually
joined
as
an
intern
straight
out
of
college.
So
I
really
was
not
super
familiar
with
the
blockchain
space,
but
I
had
a
friend
at
an
ad
tech
startup
who
was
looking
for
some
help
on
the
marketing
side
and
it
turned
out
after
I
started.
F
I
was
then
explained
that
the
back
end
was
actually
being
built
on
a
blockchain
which
I
had
no
idea
when
I
did
actually
join
the
team,
so
it
was
around
the
ico
phase
as
well.
So
I
was,
I
was
involved
in
an
ico
early
in
the
early
in
the
day,
and
I
was
the
only
marketing
person.
So
I
was
the
community
manager
like
the
content,
writer,
the
twitter
manager,
everything,
and
so
I
went
from
not
knowing
anything
to
thousands
of
people
flooding
into
all
of
our
accounts.
F
You
know
when
we
launched
and
it
looks
like
ari's
like
yep.
I
get
that,
and
so
that
was
just
like
a
fast
track
education
into
how
to
manage
communities
within
blockchain
and
understanding
what
that
means,
and
so
I
just
became
super
obsessed
with
the
blockchain
side.
I
I
kind
of
forgot
about
the
ad
tech
piece
I
was
like.
I
don't
really
care
about
it
anymore.
I
really
care
about
about
micropayments,
about
cross-border
payments,
my
family's
from
south
america.
So
instead
of
going
to
western
union
you
know,
maybe
I
should
send
my
grandpa
bitcoin.
F
For
a
few
years
I
was
early
stage
marketing
with
them
as
well
helps
them
grow
out
an
affiliate
influencer
platform,
and
then
I
went
to
chain-link
labs,
I'm
now
an
ecosystem
strategist
over
there
working
on
getting
announcements
out
with
all
of
our
integration
teams,
and
I
also
contribute
to
a
few
dows
one
being
metagama
delta,
which
is
focused
on
women
and
inclusion
in
web3.
So
yeah
super
excited
to
be
here.
Thank
you.
B
Wow,
that's
a
lot
and
I
think
we're
all
super
excited
about
being
in
the
space,
so
I'm
gonna
transition.
The
next
set
of
questions
to
puja,
which
I
think
these
are
the
these
are
the
core
questions
I
really
want
to.
We
want
to
kind
of
get
answered,
which
is
opportunities
and
challenges
in
the
space,
and
there
boy
are
there
challenges
and
so
puja.
Do
you
want
to
jump
into
that
topic?.
A
C
A
C
There's
so
much
opportunity,
I
mean
we're
really
early.
I
tell
that
to
folks
everywhere,
left
and
right
all
my
students,
policymakers
investors,
we're
really
early,
and
so
you
know
a
lot
of
people
are
really
excited
about
the
protocols
and
you
know
the
entertaining
and
the
decentralized
applications.
C
We
need
a
lot
of
skills,
we
don't
just
need
coders
and
we
don't
just
need
people
that
have
these
technical
skills.
We
need
people
that
can
help
with
definitions
that
can
help.
You
know,
coordinate
and
cat
heard
that
people
that
can
speak
people
that
can
write
people
that
can
share
stories
simply
because
right
now
you
know
this
space
has
started
with
a
bunch
of
nerds
and
nerds
were
not
very
good
at
marketing.
C
So
we
need
people
that
are
good
at
marketing.
That
can
you
know,
simplify
the
messages
and
we
can
stop
talking
about
blockchain
and
all
the
protocols
and
talk
about
what
really
this
technology
can
do
to
help
humanity.
And
so
you
know,
if
you
have
skills
and
you're
interested
literally
just
go
in
jump
in,
you
know,
go
and
check
out
the
code.
C
A
Awesome,
that's
awesome,
like
that's
a
very
good
suggestion.
You
really
do
not
have
to
be
technical
or
nerd
to
be
a
part
of
blockchain.
You
can
just
join
in
just
jump
in
that's
a
good
suggestion.
Thank
you
so
much
I
have
known
annette
since
my
early
days
in
ethereum
cat
herders.
She
works
with
fellowship
of
ethereum
magician,
as
she
mentioned
in
her
introduction,
and
I
spend
a
decent
amount
of
my
work
time
in
creating
awareness
about
upgrades
and
eips.
E
From
my
perspective,
I
think
that
the
biggest
kind
of
space
where
we
miss
a
lot
is
the
basic
understanding,
because
one
part
of
the
problem
is
having
developers
or
having
missing
developers
who
code
and
the
other
part
is
having
a
community
that
just
doesn't
understand
the
code.
So
there
is
a
huge
potential
for
people
to
write
a
simpler
understanding
and
simpler
definition,
as
ari
said
of
what
the
code
is
and
how
we
can
like
translate
the
code
into
human
language.
E
A
A
So
jazzy,
I
know
you
are
a
girl
with
multiple
skills.
I
have
personally
seen
you
wearing
different
hats
at
different
times
of
the
day,
and
I'm
also
aware
that
you
aren't
involved
in
active
coding
or
active
development
work.
Yet
you
have
a
passion
to
help
increase
public
awareness
and
the
opportunities
in
blockchain
technology
for
underrepresented
communities
I'll
be
curious
to
hear
what
it
means
to
accommodate
in
your
field.
What
advice
would
you
give
to
women
who
wish
to
enter
the
space
or
are
already
in
this
space
and
may
feel
marginalized?.
F
Yeah
I
mean
when
I
entered
the
space
I
was,
I
was
very
young.
First
of
all,
I
was
like
fresh
out
of
college,
so
you
know
that's
already
intimidating
enough
like
you're
getting
into.
I
was
always
the
only
woman.
Usually
in
the
beginning
I
mean
it's
gotten
a
lot
better
throughout
the
years,
but
like
my
first
few
jobs,
I
was
usually
one
of
the
only
women
definitely
younger
and
you
know
quite
intimidated
by,
like
all
the
amazing
developers.
F
So
I
have
to
be
confident
in
the
content
and
the
knowledge
that
I
have
and
share
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
hear
my
story
or
want
to
hear
my
perspective,
and
so
it's
a
lot
of
that
confidence
building.
But
in
general,
I
think
creating
communities
where
women
and
marginalized
communities
can
find
other
people
like
themselves
is
extremely
important
because,
like
I
said
in
the
beginning,
I
didn't
see
a
lot
of
people
like
myself.
F
Also,
you
know
being
latinx
and
looking
for
for
mentors
that
I
could
relate
to,
and
so
as
I've
gone
throughout
the
years,
I've
decided.
Why
not
build
that.
Instead,
you
know,
if
I'm
not
finding
it,
why
not
make
it,
and
so
that's
where
creating
some
of
like
these
dowels.
I
have
like
group
chats
with
women.
F
I
even
recently
helped
a
dow
that
was
focused
on
younger
people
getting
into
the
space
like
20
years
and
younger,
and
so
helping
them
go
to
events,
learn
about
crypto
what
that
means
and
really
empowering
them
to
take
hold
of
their
lives
within
web3,
and
so
I
think
the
more
that
we
do
that
as
leaders.
The
more
that
we're
going
to
see
similar
people
like
us
enter
the
space
and
I've
been
able
to
crypto
pill
quite
a
few
of
my
friends
and
they
now
work
in
crypto.
A
A
I
know
jill
so
jill.
You
are
from
a
different
background.
I
feel
you
have
a
lot
to
share
for
women
that
are
not
from
the
technical
background.
As
harry
and
nat,
we
did
discuss
about
like
it's
easier
for
people
for
technical
background
to
be
a
part
of
it
right,
and
I
see
that
coming
from
and
like
legal
background
there
can
be
different
opportunities.
I
would
like
you
to
speak
a
bit
about
opportunities
from
your
perspective
from
the
legal
background
side.
D
For
me,
I
think
you
know,
most
of
my
legal
career
has
been
technology
adjacent.
A
lot
of
my
practice
has
required
that
I
work
with
you
know
I
t
personnel
or
databases,
and
so
I've
never
been
a
technician
myself,
but
I've
always
needed
to
have
the
capacity
to
work
with
you
know:
technology
or
individuals.
You
know
coders
or
I.t
or
whatever.
I
think
you
know
similar
to
what
ari
and
zaji
you
got
it
yeah.
D
You
know
the
ability
to
translate
from
technical
to
real
english
is,
is
really
helpful
and-
and
I
think
you
know
in
many
ways-
that's
probably
my
biggest
skill
in
this
space
is
it's
not
just
to
say.
You
know
to
listen
to
somebody
and
say:
is
this
what
you're
saying,
but
also
to
persist
and
know
that
you
know
to
have
the
confidence
to
persist
and
say
I
don't
understand
what
you
said
and
I
can't
help
you
until
I
understand
so.
Can
you
say
that
a
different
way?
D
Let
me
say
this
back
to
you,
in
my
words,
and
you
can
tell
me
how
far
off
base
I
am,
and
you
know
it's
an
iterative
process,
and
you
know
just
to
have
the
confidence
to
know
that
you're
not
wrong.
Just
because
you
don't
understand
it.
When
it
comes
at
you
in
technical,
speak
and
you're,
not
incompetent
and
you're
not
going
to
be
fired,
I
mean,
I
guess
you
can't
control
whether
or
not
you're
fired,
but
you
shouldn't
be
fired.
D
If
you're
not
a
technician,
you
know
you
may
not
understand
those
words,
and
so
you
know
it
may
take
some
time,
and
you
know
it
takes
some
like.
I
said
some
confidence
and
some
persistence,
but
essentially
it's
more
or
less
my
client's
job
to
work
with
me
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
they're
doing
otherwise
they're
not
going
to
get
accurate
legal
advice,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
similar
to
what
the
other
panelists
have
said.
That
is
both
the
biggest
challenge
and
the
biggest
opportunity.
A
B
Yes
sure,
so
I
think
what
I
want
to
cover
now
is
what
type
of
tools
and
support
you
may
have
used
to
help
you
in
your
career
and
things
that
you
might
suggest
other
people
to
to
to
leverage
and
so
zaji
you
mentioned
mentoring.
So
I
mean,
let
me
start
with
that,
and
you
know:
can
you
talk
about
your
mentoring
experience
and
maybe
advise
people
that
are
looking
for
mentors,
especially
females,
who
might
want
to
approach
someone
that
they
think
is
the
right
mentor?
What
the
caveats
are
there?
B
How
do
you
have
to
approach
that?
What's
been
in
your
experience
and
what's
what
are
some
of
the
advice
that
you
might
give
and
I'll
ask
that
same
question
to
to
annette
as
well,
so
I'm
gonna
start
with.
You
is
actually
what
what's
your
experience
with
mentors
and
how
do
you?
How
do
you
suggest
we
pick?
We
pick
them.
F
F
You
know
just
make
it
known
that
you
really
want
to
include
them
in
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
I
think,
there's
the
other
side
of
maybe
a
little
more
structured
like
now
that
web3
has
grown
a
lot
more
there's
a
lot
of
like
fellowship
programs
and
projects
and
things
that
you
can
get
involved
in.
So
like.
I
was
a
part
of
colonel
there's,
also
like
shify,
for
example.
F
These
are
all
different
types
of
like
web
3,
mentorship
type
programs
where
you
can
actually
get
paired
up
with
people
or
find
somebody
in
that
program
that
can
really
help
you
grow
based
off
of
your
skill
set.
So
I
think,
maybe,
if
you
don't
naturally
have
somebody
that
you
can
talk
to
maybe
go
out
and
seek
them
out
through
through
more
structured
approaches,
and
I
think
either
way.
I've
met
amazing
people
in
both
types
of
approaches.
It
just
depends
on
maybe
where
you
are
at
in
in
in
the
system,
but
yeah
I've.
F
E
Actually,
I
have
a
great
experience
with
mentors,
because
the
way
how
I
started
in
the
space
in
my
first
like
like
few
few
weeks
since
I
started,
I
got
a
mentor
which
I
mean
I
got
like
jamie
pitts,
who
I
got
introduced
thanks
to
griff
green
as
he
introduced
me
like
you
know.
This
guy
can
like
help
you
with
funding
for
the
project
that
you
are
working
on
right
now
and
then
he
was
like
no
you're
not
going
to
work
on
this
project.
E
I'm
going
to
take
you
under
my
own
wings
and
you
are
going
to
help
other
magicians
and
that's
basically
how
I
started
and
we
still
talk
together
with
jamie
and
we
still
work
together
on
the
same
project
for
three
years
now
and
it's
been
a
great
journey,
but
how
to
find
a
good
mentor
or
how
to
find
a
mentor.
I
would
suggest
that
a
cold
dm
approach
is
a
great
approach,
how
to
get
to
know
people
and
how
to
find
a
good
mentors.
B
B
If
I
can't
understand
what
you're
saying
and
in
a
big
way
education,
one
of
the
goals
of
education
is
to
start
to
reduce
that
friction
and
communication
and
start
to
like
standardize,
not
really
standardize,
but
to
make
it
easier
for
us
to
understand
each
other
and
the
more.
We
know
about
each
other
via
education,
the
better
we
can
communicate
and
theories
and
we
can
operate
better
more
efficiently
and
so
on.
B
That
will
help
us
to
better,
be
better
communicators,
maybe
advance
our
career
and
overcome
the
challenges
that
may
exist
in
the
space,
and
I
think
there
is
in
the
crypto
space.
Maybe
nobody
wants
to
say
it
I'll
say
it.
There's
a
there's,
a
crypto,
bros
toxicity,
you
know
in
space
and
it
could
be,
it
could
be
demeaning
certain
certain
cases
I
was.
B
Actually
there
was
a
twitter
person
who
is
a
big
rust
programmer
and
she
starts
blocking
all
crypto
people
just
because
and
she
doesn't
want
crypto
people
to
even
use
rust
programming,
and
so
the
space
has
this
kind
of
like
this
negative
thing
that
is
occurring
and
maybe
we
as
insiders
might
not
see
it.
But
how
do
we
get
educated
around?
B
You
know
what's
happening
in
the
space
and
how
to
be
more
inclusive.
What
are
those
resources
like
I'm
not
saying
how
do
we
learn
about
blockchain?
But
how
do
we
learn
about
our
social
position
and
how
do
we
position
ourselves
in
society
with
the
stuff
that
we're
working
on
given
the
content
in
the
context
of
inclusion,
I'll
start
with
you,
ari
and
then
I'll
go
to
you
jail
with
the
same
question.
C
B
So
are
we
sort
of
the
resources
like
what
podcasts
do
you
get?
I
mean?
Is
there
anything
that
gives
you
more
better
motivation,
the
days
that
you
might
be
down?
That
gives
you
better
clarity
on
what's
happening
in
the
space
that
you
recommend
that
has
helped
you
and
that
you
might
think
other
people
might
should
get
plugged
into.
Maybe
a
specific
twitter
account
that
we
should
follow.
That
is
really
helping
us
counter.
Whatever
toxicity
exists,.
C
That
being
said,
you
know
there
are
lots
of
great
resources
online.
You
know
joining
these
community
groups
discord
telegrams,
get
known,
meet
people
that
you
know
someone
says
something.
That's
really
interesting
or
seems
really
smart.
You
know
get
to
know
them.
You
know
figure
out
what
their
background
is,
and
you
know
learn
about
their.
What
their
real
name
is.
If
their
real
name
is,
you
know
you
know
cryptobro
2652,
whatever
right.
C
She
has
some
really
great
resources
for
people
that
are
learning
about
investing
and
I
think
learning
to
understand
the
monetary
side
of
blockchain
and
crypto
is
really
important,
because
blockchain
is
a
whole
economic
engine,
that's
built
into
the
protocols
and
that's
why
it's
even
more
popular
and
popular
and
also
powerful,
and
if
you
don't
understand
money
and
finance
and
economic
systems,
you
know
that's
why
you
would
want
to.
You
know,
go
and
spend
some
time
there
there's
you
know
great
podcasts
and
resources
like
anthony
papulino.
C
C
Let's
see
if
you
want
to
learn
about
bitcoin
like
peter
mccormack,
also
very
broly,
but
he
did
a
great
series
of
videos
called
what
bitcoin
did,
I
think
or
what
bitcoin
is
and
just
he
meets
with,
like
the
the
privacy
guys,
the
security
guys,
the
crypto
guys
the
protocol,
guys
like
everybody
and
who's
who
in
the
space,
especially
the
ogs,
and
it's
just
so
informational.
So
you
know,
there's
stuff
like
that.
C
C
You
know
by
safety
namos.
I
think
he
also
teaches
in
the
same
university
that
jamil
does
columbia
university
really
really
great
book.
I
think
it's
one
of
the
basic
bibles,
but
you
know
there's
all
sorts
of
books,
I'm
happy
to
recommend,
but
really
when
it
comes
to
support
systems,
you
want
to
do
a
lot
of
investing
in
your
offline
support
system.
C
You
know
your
family,
your
friends
and
I
also
say
that
to
people
in
crypto
like
we
do
a
lot
of
time
on
zoom
and
we
meet
and
talk
to
people
in
slack
and
telegram
and
discord
as
much
as
possible
get
on
video.
At
least
you
know
get
on
a
zoom
and
you
know
meet
face
to
face
because
you
know
that's
when
we
humanize
people
and
they're
not
just
digits,
and
you
know
letters
on
the
screen.
You
know
we
start
to
really
treat
people
like
people.
C
B
Yeah
great
point,
and
with
code
with
you
know,
seemingly
receding,
there's
clearly
more
opportunity
for
people
to
meet
in
person
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
new
york
city.
We're
definitely
going
back
to
that
that
and
there
there
is
really
no
comparison.
No
twitter
account
no,
nothing
that
can
compete
with
shaking
hands
talking
to
people
eye
to
eye
sharing
information
and
sharing
stories.
B
So
so
we're
really
looking
forward
to
that
jill
you're
you're,
an
attorney
you're,
an
educator
kind
of
by
default
by
being
an
attorney
because
you're
explaining
to
clients
where
they're
in
trouble.
And
so
can
you
tell
us
what
resources
you
recommend
for
people
in
the
space
within
the
context
of
this
talk
like
what's?
What
do
you
think
is
a
set
of
resources
that
people
should
get
plugged
into.
D
Of
course,
I
am
two
years
into
the
code
into
the
pandemic
and
I
still
haven't
learned
how
to
take
myself
off
off
of
mute
yeah.
It's
a
really
interesting
question.
I
think
one,
the
dif
the
question.
The
answer
is
going
to
be
different.
You
know
for
different
people
to
ari's
point
and
your
earlier
comment
about
crypto
bros.
My
experience
tells
me
that
you
know
there
unless
somebody
wants
to
change.
D
You
know
nothing
that
you
say
to
them
or
do
you
know
it's
it's
not
going
to
hit
home,
and
so
I
agree
with
ari.
The
best
thing
to
do
is
to
not
amplify
and
to
create
a
community
that
essentially
excludes
that
kind
of
behavior,
because
people's
behaviors
change
based
on
you
know
what
the
standard
is
in
the
community
and-
and
so
you
know,
I
agree
about
the
crypto
bros
like
they're,
you
know
yelling
at
them
or
telling
them
that
they're,
exclusionary
or
misogynistic
or
chauvinistic
or
whatever.
D
D
I
would
really
appreciate
it
now.
Of
course,
I
I'm
in
a
leadership
position
with
that
group
that
I
was
in,
so
I
had
the
ability
to
say
that
with
very
little
risk
everybody
in
the
room
that
they
don't
it's
a
volunteer
position,
but
I
was
in
a
leadership
position
with
respect
to
every
other
person
in
the
room,
so
it
gave
me
the
luxury
to
stand
up
and
say
you
know,
as
we
continue
this
course.
D
We
need
to
use
players
as
the
the
generic,
not
he
so
you
know
I
read
a
book
when
I
was
17
or
18.
it's
a
very
old
book,
but
I
think
it's
still
super
valuable.
It's
called
language
in
a
women's
place
written
by
lakov
and
she
she
talks
about
the
both
the
way
that
women
use
language
to
make
themselves
smaller
or
less
assertive
or
less
authoritative,
but
also
the
way
people
use
language
about
women,
and
it
just
really
struck
a
chord
with
me
that
you
know
from
our
very
early
days.
D
We
are
all
using
language
and
language
becomes
truth,
words
matter
and
there's
countless
studies,
I'm
fascinated
by
these
studies.
There's
studies
about
they've
looked
at
languages
that
have
gendered
nouns,
which
of
course,
english
doesn't,
but
most
other
languages
do
and
look
at
looked
at
languages
where
certain
items
are
gendered
differently
so
like
in
one
language,
a
bridge
is
feminine
and
in
a
different
language.
It's
a
masculine
and
then
asks
people
to
describe
bridges
and
in
in
the
languages
where
a
bridge
is
a
feminine
noun.
D
They
describe
bridges
as
graceful
and
striking
and
in
languages
where
bridges
have
a
masculine
noun,
they
describe
them
as
strong
and
trustworthy,
and
you
know
it's
just
so
undeniable
the
impact
of
language.
So
you
know,
I
think,
for
me,
that's
something
I
really
work
on.
I
work
on
my
own
language
so,
as
I
don't
make
myself
smaller
and
also
in
the
way
that
I
refer
to
people
that
I'm
not
making
them
smaller,
and
I
try
to
help
those
around
me
do
the
same
in
ways
that
are,
you
know,
accessible
and
not
off-putting.
D
D
How
can
we
help
and
that's
really
powerful
that
that
chat
group
has
been
such
a
support
to
me
and
at
the
same
time
you
can
get
on
and
say
I'm
having
the
worst
hair
day,
and
they
don't
think
that
you're,
you
know
being
frivolous
or
vain
or
you
know,
or
you
can
get
on
and
say,
look
how
good
my
new
jeans
look
and
they
you
know
they're
gonna
thumbs
up
that
as
well.
So
I
wholeheartedly
support
getting
a
group
of
women.
You
know
a
tribe
or
a
whatever.
D
It
is
a
group
of
women
that
absolutely
have
your
back
and
will
support
you
and
will
not
tell
you
that
you're
crazy
and
you
know
they'll
either
talk
you
down
off
your
cliffs
or
build
you
back
up
or
whatever
you
need,
but
yeah.
I
wholeheartedly
wholeheartedly
support
that
and
then
you
know.
Lastly,
I
think
for
podcasts
or
whatever
I
really
love
bene.
Brown,
I
find
her
to
be
both
insightful
and
vulnerable.
D
B
B
I
I
say
that
language
is
the
first
metaverse,
because
it's
how
we
construct
our
reality
in
a
lot
of
ways,
and
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
literature
like
noam
chomsky
and
all
that
it's
very
much
tied
into
how
we
construct
this
reality,
we
call
reality
right.
So
thank
you
for
that
content
and
then
brene
brown,
I'm
going
to
post
a
link
to
her
page.
I'm
going
to
follow
up
on
that
myself.
Thank
you
for
sharing
that
valuable
content.
B
I
want
to
switch
topics
because
we're
kind
of
running
out
of
time
we
probably
have
about
another
five
minutes.
I
want
to
go
very
very
quickly
to
each
one
of
you
and
I'll
start
with
you
again
jill
since
I
have
you
here.
Let's
talk,
you
know
quickly
for
maybe
about
a
minute
work.
Life
balance
is
the
web3
space
very
demanding
beyond
the
norms,
and
that's
it
any
other
space
and
what
what
yeah?
And
how
do
you?
What
are
your
thoughts
on
that?
B
D
Probably
asking
the
wrong
person
I,
when
I
graduated
from
law
school
I
I
was
a
single
parent
of
a
seven-year-old
and
I
I
built
three
thousand
hours
that
first
year,
so
anything
short
of
that
you
know
so
three
thousand
hours
meant
I
probably
worked
four
thousand
hours,
which
is
double.
You
know
a
40-hour
week
for
most
people,
so
anything
short
of
that
seems
like
a
vacation.
D
Also,
my
son
is
grown.
You
know,
I
don't
have
kids
at
home,
so
I
probably
don't
have
the
best
perspective
on
work.
Life
balance,
I
think,
like
anything
else,
internet
based
or
technology
based-
and
this
happened.
You
know
in
big
law
too,
outside
of
web3
having
the
flexibility
to
work
and
adapt.
Your
hours
is
super
valuable,
but
it
also
means
that
you
can
kind
of
be
working
all
the
time.
D
D
B
Yeah
I
mean
it's,
it
is
a.
It
is
a
fast-paced
place,
I'm
a
single
dad.
I
have
two
daughters
do
full-time,
I'm
a
full-time
dad,
their
mom's
not
around,
and
so,
but
I
do.
I
do
work
70
plus
hours
a
week
and
the
more
I
work,
the
more
more
work
is
demanded.
It
just
seems
to
be
on
ending
so
annette.
When
do
you
say
enough,
like
what's
your
position
on
work
like
balance
in
the
web
3
space.
E
I'm
trying
to
be
very
strict
about
how
I
spend
my
time
actually
and
yes,
crypto,
never
sleeps,
but
it's
quite
a
space
where
you
can
burn
out
in
like
a
two-week
period.
So
you
have
to
be
very
careful
about
how
you
spend
your
time.
So
for
me,
my
general
rule
is
try
to
not
open
telegram
or
any
works
kind
of
social
media
on
weekends.
That's
my
like
number
one
rule
and
also
then
another
rule
is
like
an
hour
before
my
attempt
to
not
work
or
open
laptop.
E
A
B
You
feel
any
pressures
to,
or
do
you
feel
difficulty
and
saying?
No,
this
is
it's
8
p.m.
I
don't
want
to
work
on
this
tonight.
What's
your
thoughts
on
work
life
in
the
context
of
you
know,
you
know
a
woman
working
in
somewhat
of
a
male
dominated
space,
there's
maybe
too
much
testosterone,
and
you
know
chest
thumping
and
all
that.
How
do
you
handle
your
life.
F
Yeah,
I
think,
in
the
beginning
I
always
felt
like
I
had
to
like
prove
myself,
as
I
was
always
trying
to
do
the
most
and
trying
to
be
like
the
best
at
everything,
but
I
think,
as
time
has
passed
like
I'm
still
young
but
like
I
have
realized
that
that's
not
gonna
like
help
me
grow
like
I'm,
going
to
just
like
slowly
kill
myself.
If
I
like,
really
just
burn
myself
out,
so
I've
been
trying
as
of
late
to
say
no
to
things
that
I
just
either.
F
F
Your
lunch,
like
it
just
helps
because
then
at
least
people
won't
double
book
you
for
things
and
it
helps
you
just
take
a
few
breaks
throughout
your
day,
but
I
I
am
also
like
a
working
addict.
I
work
all
the
time
I
work
east
coast
hours,
so
I
start
at
like
five
and
then
I
of
course
decided
that
dows
were
fun
outside
of
my
main
job.
So
then
I
do
a
bunch
of
dow
things
like
up
until
like
8
p.m.
F
So
you
know
it
it
depends,
but
as
long
as
you're
enjoying
it
at
least
it
doesn't
feel
so
much
like
working
and
I
think
that's
like
the
danger
of
web
3
is
some
of
it
is
just
like
so
interesting
and
exciting
that
you
get
really
like
you
get
really
deep
in
it,
and
then
you
can't
really
get
yourself
out
of
it.
So
just
making
sure
you
somewhat
prioritize
things
in
your
life.
F
B
Right,
we're
definitely
unbalanced
and
I
can
tell
you
that
for
sure
but
ari,
you
know
you're
a
successful
entrepreneur.
You
know
you,
you
have
certain
luxuries,
you
know
with
your
time
you
don't
you,
don't
necessarily
have
to
do
a
905..
That
being
said,
that
also
opens
up
the
floodgates
for
all
kinds
of
commitments
that
you
might
end
up.
You
know
you
know
committing
to.
So
how
do
you
handle
it
and
you
have
a
family?
How
do
you
handle
all
of
that?
B
C
I
I
wouldn't
be
in
this
place
without
them,
and
then
I
am
a
mom
of
three.
I
just
had
a
newborn,
so
I
had
a
baby
three
months
ago
he's
so
amazing.
I
have
another
one.
That's
two
years
old
he's
amazing
too,
and
I
have
another
one
that
just
turned
six
so
meeting
three
boys
and
when
I
had
my
first
child,
I
thought
I
could
do
it
all,
and
so
I
worked
like
100
something
plus
hours
and
with
my
first
child,
and
I
I
kind
of
regret
it.
C
I
I
I
see
the
impact
that
I
had
had
on
him
and
I
have
learned
like
the
first
five
years
of
a
child's
life
having
their
mother
just
accessible,
really
really
makes
an
impact
on
just
their
brain
creation
and
how
they
feel
safe
in
the
world,
and
so
with
my
second
two
children.
I
had
to
make
some
adjustments.
C
You
know,
I
also
think,
like
you
know,
work
life
balance,
there's
so
many
ways
to
answer
this.
For
me,
like
nothing,
really
feels
like
work,
it's
just
things
that
I
need
to
do
and
if
I'm
not
gonna
do
it.
I
just
won't
feel
like
I've
lived,
my
life
right,
there's
just
like
this.
I
don't
know
what
the
word
is.
C
I
would
not
be
anywhere
near
where
I
am
without
the
support
of
my
husband
and
my
family,
my
in-laws
and
my
mother,
and
you
know
the
the
things
they
do
to
enable
me
and
empower
me.
I
talked
to
my
children
regularly.
My
actually
my
my
six-year-old
yesterday
said:
hey
mommy,
can
you
just
not
work
and
I'm
like,
but
but
hey
you
know.
I
really
like
working,
I'm
really
good
at
it.
He's
like!
Oh
well.
C
Can
you
just
do
it
for
a
little
bit
a
week
a
day
and
I
was
like
I,
I
need
to
do
as
much
as
I
can,
because
mom
is
really
good
at
it.
Don't
you
want
mommy
to
be
really
good
at
it
and
then
like
stop
work.
I'm
gonna
pay
only
attention
to
you
during
dinner
time
and
during
family
time
and
on
our
dates
together
and
he's
like
okay,
you
can
keep
going
again.
C
C
You
know,
make
sure
it's
an
open
communication
with
your
family
members
and
all
those
that
are,
you
know,
impacted
by
your
decisions,
your
children,
your
spousal
units,
your
your
family
members.
Whoever
is
supporting
you
to
enable
and
empower
you
and
be
thankful
too
yeah.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
a
good
answer
to
your.
B
Question
but
no,
it
was
a
fantastic
answer,
so
I
mean
you
made
it
very
real
and
very
personal,
so
we're
running
out
of
time.
I
want
to
get
this
question
in
ari.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
for
that
that
perspective.
So
we
have
a
question
from
glm:
have
any
of
the
panelists
notice
specific
differences
in
the
dni
field?
I
think
that
means
diversity
and
inclusion
feel
field
when
interacting
as
a
web
3
personality
of
some
level,
with
traditional
work
environments
so
being
in
the
web
3
space.
B
Maybe
I'll
I'll,
leave
this
question
to
you,
ari,
because
you
have
you
have
a
more
prominent
name
at
least
publicly
at
this
stage.
Is
it
different
for
you
now?
Are
you
getting
more
more
things
and
then
I'll
leave
it
to
anybody
else
who,
on
the
panel
that
would
like
to
take
that
question?
Let's
go
with
you
arg.
First,
as
we
have
you.
C
That
is
something
that
everyone
is
doing,
whether
you're
you
know
well-intentioned
white
male
or
you
know
someone,
that's
not
a
well-intentioned
white
male,
and
so
we
see
that
you
know
I'm
building
a
board
right
now
for
another
project
that
I'm
launching,
and
you
know
if,
if
the
well-intentioned
white
male
has
to
be
very
intentional,
then
me,
as
a
you
know,
hopefully
well-intentioned
asian
woman.
I
have
to
be
extra
intentional,
and
so
I
went
outside
my
to
usually
have
you
know
the
50
people
that
I
turned
to
for
different
things.
C
I
said:
look
I'm
going
to
go,
put
an
extra
effort
to
go
outside
of
my
normal
50
people,
horror,
volunteer,
work
or
board
positions
and
really
put
in
extra
effort,
and
so
I
think
whether
it's
this
tech
space
or
this
blockchain
space,
everyone.
If
everyone
is
doing
this,
then
we're
all
going
to
be
building
this
better.
Tomorrow
with
influencers
and
leaders
that
look
more
like
all
of
us
and
give
opportunities
to
all
of
us,
I
think
we
have
to
do
it,
whether
you're
building
a
panel
or
whether
you're
building
a
fund.
C
You
know
inviting
lps
that
you
know,
aren't
gonna,
write,
hundred
thousand
dollar
checks,
writing
five
and
ten
thousand
dollar
checks
so
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
earn
wealth
alongside
the
hundred
thousand
dollar
text.
You
know
if
you're
a
star
founder
and
you're
raising
funds.
You
know
don't
just
go
after
the
typical
vcs
and
angel
investors,
but
invite
other
people
to
you
know
be
in
the
journey
with
you.
It's
it's
from
all
all
all
efforts.
You
know
we
need
to
be
continually
inviting
and
encouraging
and
empowering
jill.
I
think
that's
a
question.
B
Yeah
we
do
have
to
wrap
up
there's
one
question
I
want
to
take
and
I'll
leave
it
to
the
three
panelists.
Whoever
wants
to
take
these
questions
from
christina
and
she's
really
asking:
should
you
be
anonymous
online
and
hide
the
fact
that
you're,
a
woman?
Would
that
give
you
some
some
advantages
so
I'll?
Leave
that
question
zaji
annette
jill
any
one
of
you
want
to
take
that
and
then
we
have
to
transition
to
to
pujo
who's
gonna,
give
her
her
closing
thoughts,
but
it's
an
interesting
question.
B
E
B
F
B
Yeah
and
then
go
ahead
right
then.
Oh,
I
think
that
they
removed
it.
But
oh
yeah,
I
see
your
answer.
Okay,
great,
so
it
depends
on
your
personality.
Being
a
woman
and
the
space
has
its
pros
and
cons.
It
depends
if
and
how
you
can
handle
okay
great,
so
you
gave
some
advice
to
the
question.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
annette.
Okay!
This
is
all
we
have
time
for
pooja.
Do
you
want
to
take
us
home.
A
B
A
A
On
this
note,
we
the
ethereum
categories
thanks
all
our
panelists
co-organizer
and
specially
ech
contributor
shibangi,
go
clay
and
kenneth
lester
from
ech
operations
for
communication
and
making
intros.
I
know
there
are
many
female
out
who
are
looking
for
an
opportunity
to
join
the
web
3
space.
I
wish
them
luck
and
hope
this
discussion
will
inspire
them
to
move
a
step
towards
the
future.