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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #4 [2019/02/05]
Description
B
B
B
I
can't
remember,
there's
an
app
that
you
wrote
and
you
basically
plug
it
into
YouTube,
it's
pretty
straightforward
I.
Can
we
actually
Hudson
and
I
have
a
guide
for
all
chords
that
we
could
share
I
had
one
request
from
the
public
regarding
she
me
beg
to
join
this
car.
Does
anyone
mind
if
I
sent
him
the
link?
I?
B
B
E
B
H
H
So
I
mean
we
basically
B's
kind
of
going
over
the
last
meeting
and
what
the
action
my
items
were
and
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
has
the
agenda
in
front
of
them,
but
the
ones
from
the
last
meeting
were
create
that,
of
course,
mortem
report
that
we
we
ended
up
getting
out
finished
the
website,
so
Hugo
did
a
good
job
on
getting
it
mostly
updated.
We
just
need
to
add
or
decide
if
we
want
to
have
the
photos
of
the
cat
hers
up
there
or
just
house
just
links
to
our
social,
which
is
already
there.
I
H
So
there's
quite
a
bit
of
them,
I
think
there's
like
twelve
or
something
and
they're,
mostly
related
to
having
emergency
comms
or
having
proactive
processes
and
but
I
think
like
we.
Maybe
we
could
talk
about
how
we
can
start
reaching
out
to
teams
and
kind
of
putting
these
things
together
and
the
documents
like
the
rubric
for
I'm
assessing
vulnerabilities.
H
H
So
the
first
two
ones
were
kind
of
prepared
template
for
a
statement
that
we
can
just
sort
of
push
out
and
he
kind
of
be
copied
over
from
the
most
recent
kind
of
announcement.
We
put
it
there
and
then
the
other
one
was
the
one
below
that
was
put
together
just
kind
of
spontaneously.
It
was
an
emergency
communication
team
to
come
together,
put
a
list
of
all
the
stakeholders
involved
to
contact
and
contact
them.
H
So
I
mean
the
future
probably
be
helpful
if
there
were
already
people
to
go
to
as
opposed
to
just
volunteers
right
away.
So
we
can
start
reaching
out
to
the
people
who
were
a
part
of
that
I
know
offer
he
was,
and
Hudson
and
yeah
I
mean
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
what
you
think
about
that.
If
we
need
to
do
that,
if
it's
a
priority.
H
Yeah,
so
this
it
pretty
much
falls
on
the
exact
same
point
that
we
need
to
kind
of
a
formalized
process
for
notifying
exchanges
with
kind
of
listed
channels
on
how
to
best
contact
them.
So
we
did
have
a
chart
that
I
think
William
Schwab
put
together
and
Hudson
and
all
the
other
emergency
comms
teams
who
the
contact
of
the
money
pools
the
exchanges
and
all
the
major
stakeholders
they
take
up
the
most
the
hash
power.
E
I
guess
my
question
is
like
what
what
is
happening
with
these
actions?
What's
the
next
steps
I
mean?
Is
it
feels
like
this?
If
there
are
12
there's
quite
a
lot
of
kind
of
stuff
to
be
done
so
just
in
terms
of
process,
like
is
the
result
committee
or
someone
working
on
following
up
on
these
things
or
I'm,
not
sure
I
want
to
you
want
to
dive
deep
into
it
now,
but
just
more
about
kind
of
how
are
we
gonna
track?
These
things,
yeah.
H
Yeah,
that's
a
really
good
point.
I
think
Chris
Remus
reached
out
to
one
of
us
on
Twitter
saying
that
he
wants
to
kind
of
be
a
part
of
maybe
tracking.
These
are
creating
some
sort
of
process
to
track
these,
but
I
guess
before
that
we
could
just
say:
does
anyone
really
want
to?
Oh
I
can
be
the
main
source
of
it
as
well.
So
does
anyone
want
to
work
with
me
on
getting
these
action
items
in
place
and
contacting
people
to
put
these
potential
teams
in
place
and
these
different
documents
and
rubrics.
B
J
K
B
Maybe
it's
worth
just
saying
another
really
brief
word
about
sort
of
the
initiative
and
and
just
just
to
make
it
clear
right.
This
is
sort
of
number
one
completely
a
volunteer,
organized,
very
kind
of
organic
grassroots
initiative,
very
kind
of
loose
affiliation,
I,
don't
think
we've
sort
of
figured
out
exactly
what
it
mean
to
be
a
cat
harder
or
exactly
what
membership
looks
like.
So
you
know
what
else
could
I
say
just
lets
all
kind
of
contribute
and
figure
this
out
together,
and
hopefully
things
will.
B
B
H
H
Right
because
yeah
he
had
some
really
good
thoughts
that
I
wrote
down
that
I
could
talk
about
later.
But
to
get
back
to
the
agenda,
did
we
still
want
to
do
the
cat
herders
introduction,
blog
post,
that
Brett
put
together
or
just
a
general
idea
of
putting
one
out
there,
or
do
you
think
that
your
post
lane
and
the
kind
of
post
mortem
report
kind
of
cover
what
we
were
doing
along
with
other
just
word
of
mouth?
H
B
Vote
would
be,
let's
publish
something
with
a
little
more
information
on
background
and
plans
and
hopes
and
ways
to
get
involved.
I
think
I,
don't
know
what
the
perfect
length
is,
but
something
on
the
order
of
like
2
or
3
or
4
pages
specifically
focused
on
that
stuff.
I
think
could
be
very
helpful.
Yeah.
E
G
G
H
D
Need
the
website
first
so,
depending
on
what
we
want
for
the
website,
maybe
could
be
done
today
if
yeah,
that's
something
we
need
to
talk
about,
especially
in
the
teen
section
or
whatever,
with
the
pictures.
I
don't
have
pictures
of
four
or
five
of
you
and
it's
not
even
clear
if
we
really
want
to
have
that
kind
of
section
in
the
whites
and
the
website,
and
also
there's
one
more
section
where
we
would
like
to
point
to,
like
general
resources
for
people
to
you,
know,
keep
up
with.
What's
going
on
with
helium.
D
D
So,
depending
on
what
we
want
to
do
there,
if
it's
just
you
know
putting
a
couple
of
links,
that's
easy
and
can
be
done
in
half
an
hour,
I
guess,
and
then
it's
just
playing
this.
But
if
we
like
yeah,
if
we
are
trying
to
do
something
better
than
that,
then
we
need
to
discuss
what
that
is
exactly
yeah.
H
I
H
D
So
this
is
the
section
upcoming
resources
was
supposed
to
be
something
a
bit
more
general,
not
something
specific
about
the
next
network
upgrade.
So,
ideally
here
we
would
have
meetings
to
you
know,
resources
that
people
might
find
useful
in
order
to
know
get
to
know.
What's
going
on,
what's
being
discussed.
D
D
E
Say
just
if
I
can
chime
in
my
thoughts
are
that
it's
ready
to
go
like,
except
for
the
empty
sections.
I
suggest
we
remove
the
empty
sections
and
then
just
publish
something
out
there
just
get
get
something
up
and
running
that
we
can
then
evolve.
It's
like
the
Minimum
Viable
Product
for
an
eighth
cat
holders
page
and
then
we
can
raise
issues
on
github
that
add
new
sections,
just
that
kind
of
unconscious,
that
the
the
onus
is
all
on
a
couple
of
guys
at
the
moment
to
get
this
thing
built
and
evolved.
E
E
L
H
Yeah
I
agree
with
you
as
well,
and
I
mean
in
the
future.
It
would
be
cool
if
we
had
under
upcoming
resource
info,
just
kind
of
general
documents
who
we
were
working
on
and
just
have
links
to
them
so
that
the
community
can
contribute
if
they
want
I'm.
Just
having
everything
open
for
what
we're
working
on
would
be
really
cool.
D
D
E
B
H
Something
we
were
kind
of
trying
to
decide.
Hugh
and
I
were
saying
that
so
I
do
have
the
etherium
cutters,
calm,
domain
and
I
know.
There
is
some
sort
of
way
that
you
can
use
github
pages
to
host
it,
but
actually
have
a
custom
domain,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
difficult
it
is
to
do.
But
I
mean
so
ideal
case.
It
would
obviously
be
a
host
on
github
pages
for
free
right,
I'm.
J
J
B
B
Yeah
got
it:
okay,
that's
easy!
Just
one
quick
thought
on
a
web
stuff
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
guys
know
that
I've
begun
the
process
of
investigating
internally
at
the
etherium
foundation,
with
Hudson,
what's
happening
to
a
theory
about
org
kind
of
that
property
and-
and
you
know,
obviously
with
an
eye
towards
maybe
the
cat
herders
having
some
role
in
the
process
of
updating
that
without
getting
into
you,
know,
boring
details.
The
etherium
foundation
is
I'm.
Sure
many
of
you
know
is
kind
of
very
slow-moving
and
very
bureaucratic.
So
I
can't
promise.
B
That's
gonna
happen
overnight,
but
I'm
hopeful
that
that
it
will
happen
and
I
think
the
best
way
for
us
to
approach.
This
is
to
just
build
right,
I.
Think.
If
we
are
able
to
put
together
a
resource,
that's
better
than
any
other
resource,
then
we
are
in
a
very
strong
position
to
say:
hey
guys,
the
works
done,
we've
proven
it,
let's
put
it
it
if
you're
iam
gorg.
So
that's
just
a
thought.
I'd
like
to
share
I.
H
Yeah
touch
on
that
I
started
planning
out
the
developer
portal
kind
of
architecture
for
that,
and
just
having
different
pages
and
taking
all
the
content
from
the
telegram
get
er
groups
to
try
to
formulate
what
kind
of
ages
would
be
good,
at
our
exceptions
for
different
types
of
developers
or
just
general
knowledge.
So
I
could
share
that
in
the
gara
later
tier.
H
H
Then
the
next
kind
of
piece
from
the
last
meeting
was
clean
up
the
document
that
has
all
exchanged
miners
so
I
believe
we
could
just
duplicate
that
document
and
clean
it
up.
I'm,
not
sure
if
anyone
didn't
William
did
you
yeah,
Oh,
perfect
and
then
the
next
one
was
off
free,
I
kind
of
maybe
giving
an
update
on
planning
for
the
hard
for
planning
in
the
IPS
for
moderation,
stuff
or
who
can
participate.
I'm,
not
sure.
If
he's
I
guess
he's
been
really
busy
lately
so
I
don't
know.
G
H
H
E
Yeah
sure,
okay,
so
we
we
had
a
fun
week
last
week
at
Paracon,
which
was
the
Aragon
first
conference
and
a
lot
of
teams
building
out
using
arrogance
tooling
as
their
governance
mechanism,
so
voting
and
finance
and
stuff.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
share,
and
this
just
provoked
some
thinking
around
how
we
can
start
to
use
these
tools.
E
Now
that
there
is
kind
of
budget
and
funding
coming
in
for
funding
the
kind
of
stuff
that
we're
doing
I'd
done
some
testing
of
the
Aragon
like
down
manager,
stuff
back
in
August
last
year
and
then
Charles
and
I
had
a
bit
of
a
chat
on
a
Friday
where
we
set
up
a
test
Dow
which
I'm
gonna
try
and
share
with
you
now.
Can
you
guys
see?
E
M
E
Nice,
so
I,
don't
know
whether
any
of
you
have
kind
of
played
with
this.
Yet.
But
for
me
it's
a
pretty
pretty
sweet
system.
This
is
all
just
text
and
dummy
and
it's
all
based
on
rinkeby.
So
there's
no
real
money
or
any
kind
of
real
stuff
happening,
but
it
just
kind
of
thought.
It
was
worthwhile
just
spending
a
few
minutes,
giving
an
overview
of
what
is
possible
and
what
we
can.
What
we
can
make.
E
E
The
the
dow
so
there's
been
at
the
moment.
It's
got
one
fake,
even
one
fake
live
peer
token.
In
there
you've
seen
some
money
come
in
and
some
money
go
out
or
all
the
contributions
made
to
this
were
just
people
sending
money
into
the
dow.
I
mean
it
was
me
sending
the
etherium
and
fake
life
it
opens
into
the
dow
and
then
you've
got
payments
going
out
of
the
dow.
E
Right
now
and
then,
and
then
a
budget
come
in
for
milk,
for
the
cats
that
we're
hurting
and
some
things
about
video
transcoding.
So
this
is
effectively
where,
like
the
portal
to
allow
you
to
put
money
into
this
system
and
then
there's
also
a
way
of
sending
money
out
of
this
system.
So,
for
example,
if
we
wanted
to
transfer
some
etherium,
no
withdrawal.
E
So
we
could
set
up
a
vote
payment
for
demoing
down
software
and
we
could
withdraw
this
and
this
would
effectively
like
create
a
vote
that
would
allow
all
the
token
holders
inside
this
Dow
to
decide
whether
they
want
to
accept
this
vote
or
not,
and
the
vote
is
a
motion
to
create
a
payment
to
send
0.1
aetherium
to
I
mean
it's
effectively
to
me.
I,
don't
know
whether
you
guys
can
still
see,
although
kind
of
meta
masks
stuff.
E
E
E
E
L
E
H
We
were
kind
of
doing
this
so
that
in
the
future,
no
matter
how
big
or
small
de
theorem
cat
herder
has
become,
he
could
essentially
vote
on
processes
of
I,
guess
more
governance
stuff
on
how
we
want
to
form
and
move
forward,
and
all
these
different
things
you
can
I'll
put
it
to
a
vote
may
be
displayed
here.
We
actually
have
a
stake,
and-
and
so
then
it's
not
just
random.
M
H
C
Mean
the
one
thing
with
the
Unchained
governance
model
in
generals
that
you
can
have
a
bit
of
a
hard
time
trying
to
monitor
rough
consensus
so
Charles,
you
mentioned
two
different
ideas.
You
mentioned
process
tracking
and
you
mentioned
fund
allocation
and
it
could
be
for
fund
allocation
that
we'd
want
sort
of
like
a
tighter,
more
protocol
burden
structure,
but
for
process
tracking.
Do
we
really
want
things
to
come
down
to
a
hard
vote,
or
do
we
want
to
try
and
stick
with
more
of
a
rough
consensus.
H
C
I
understand
I
love,
Eragon
I've
played
around
with
a
bunch,
I
mean
I,
guess
it's
sort
of,
because
of
that
they
just
sort
of
like
jumped
on
the
whole
process.
Thing
like
yeah
I,
get
exploring
it
as
an
idea.
I
think
it's
great,
but
it's
just
like
one
of
the
issues
is
like
you
never
want
to
lock
yourself
in
something
you
can't
unlock
yourself
from
if
it
doesn't
work.
E
Yeah,
of
course,
I
think
for
me,
it's
about
testing
and
learning
and
just
understanding
what
the
potential
is
and
slowly
come
into
some
conclusion
about
a
whether
this
is
something
that's
worth
using
and
B.
If
so,
what
for
so
I
guess,
like
you
know
my
idea
for
next
steps
on
this
was
if
someone
wants
to
participate
and
learn
about
how
this
thing
works.
If
you
send
me
in
a
theory
I'm
address,
then
I
can
mint
you
a
new
heard
token
and
we
can
start
playing
with
this
stuff
together.
E
B
Think
this
is
awesome
and
really
really
exciting.
So
again,
thank
you
guys
for
putting
effort
into
this
I
can't
really
think
of
a
better
use
case
for
Eric
on
than
the
cat
herders.
To
be
honest,
I
feel
like
I
sort
of
checks,
all
the
boxes,
it's
kind
of
like
exactly
what
Eric
gun
is
designed
for.
You
know
we're
spinning
something
up
from
scratch
and
and
we're
all
kind
of
comfortable
with
aetherium
and
we're
fully
decentralized
I
think
we
definitely
need
to
manage
funds
right.
So
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
all
aware.
B
We
do
have
a
multi
sig,
it
Hudson
offer
and
I
set
up
and
it
does
have
a
few
hundred
die
in
it.
Hopefully
that
will
grow
there's
something
else.
I'm
working
on
so
yeah
I,
don't
know
that
we
have
a
specific
action
item
at
this
moment,
but
I
would
say:
let's
definitely
continue
to
experiment
I'm
happy
to
join
that
and
what
I'd
love
to
see
is
I,
don't
know,
let's,
let's
find
a
use
case
right.
Let's
try
to
find
a
specific
use
case
for
Aragon
and
sort
of
I.
Don't
know
what
that
is
exactly
like.
B
Maybe
when
so
yeah,
so
this
question
about
rough
consensus
versus
hard
voting.
I
think
that
rough
consensus
is
probably
what
we
want
to
stick
with
for
most
decisions,
but
I
think
some
things
like
maybe
allocation
of
funds
or
admitting
new
people
to
the
group
minting
new
motor
tokens,
etc
could
be
done
through
a
vote.
So
maybe
we
could
try
doing
that
in
parallel
for
a
little
bit
for
certain
use
cases
and
see
how
it
goes.
I
think.
G
J
E
B
Not
sure
I'm
not
familiar
enough
with
aragon
to
know
whether
it's
more
intended
for
sort
of
strictly
internal
use
or
whether
it
can
also
be
used
in
a
more
open
fashion.
But
I'd
like
to
learn
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
like.
Could
we
literally
put
out
a
public
message
right
now,
because
we
have
of
course
seen
a
lot
of
interest
from
the
public
in
the
cat,
herders
and
say
anyone
who
wants
to
participate
in
this
now
reach
out
to
us?
Maybe
we
will
mint
you
a
token.
B
E
Just
to
respond
to
this,
so
anybody
with
the
link
can
come
and
propose
a
motion
on
this
down.
They
don't
need
to
be
a
token
holder
right
now.
There
are
only
two
token
holders
and
that's
me
and
charles,
so
we're
kind
of
a
little
bit
joined
dictators
in
this
in
this
current
system.
Any
new
tokens
that
get
minted
with
me
to
be
voted
by
charles
and
I
and
we're
certainly
I'm
not
doing
about
Charles
but
I'm,
definitely
not
interested
in
in
bearing
all
this
responsibility.
E
E
B
M
E
D
Can
we
use
this
sort
of
doubt
to
have
some
sort
of
mechanism
to
actually
get
feedback
from
the
community
like?
It
would
be
interesting
to
see
people
actually,
you
know
engaging
with
us
and
what
we
you
know
end
up
deciding
what
or
where
we
should
be
focusing
our
efforts,
maybe
not
on
100%,
but
it
would
be.
D
It
would
be
really
cool
to
to
kind
of
use,
allow
to
have
the
pulse
of
the
community
so
to
speak,
because,
right
now
it's
just
a
room
with
12
people
talking
and
that's
I
think
that's
good,
because
it's
efficient,
but
we
would
need
in
some
feature
we're
gonna
need
a
way
to
actually
be
able
to
listen
better
to
the
community
or
the
community
to
have
a
voice.
I,
don't
know
that
make
sense.
D
B
E
H
H
Martin
added
a
lot
of
ideas,
but
I
mean
we
can
all
kind
of
go
in
and
add
comments
and
have
general
consensus
on
what
we
want
to
have
in
there.
But
I
guess
on
this
call.
We
could
decide
what
we
want
when
we
want
to
release
it
or
what
was
the
general
consensus
there
on
the
whole
Cordova's
call
lane
on
when
this
needs
to
be
out
in
what
the.
B
Plan
isn't
there
before
we
dive
in
right
to
the
details
to
the
questions.
Let's
start
with
a
little
bit
of
meta
stuff,
so
is
everyone
where
I
guess
I'll
turn
around?
Is
anyone
not
familiar
or
comfortable
with
the
background
here,
just
prog
POW
in
general,
or
what
this
audit
is
about
or
how
it
happened
or
why
it
was
given
to
the
cat
herders?
So
we'll
start
with
the
real
basics?
I
won't
spend
time
on
them
if
everyone's
comfortable
with
it.
But
if
anyone
is
not
just
raise
your
hand
now,
I
think
yeah.
C
B
Okay,
so
right
so,
as
everyone
knows
right
so,
aetherium
has
had
a
single
proof
of
work.
Algorithm
called
eat
hash
since
the
very
beginning,
and
there
seems
to
be
consensus
in
the
community
that
eat
hash
is
intended
to
be
a
sakra
systems.
You
can
kind
of,
you
know,
define
a
stick
resistance,
how
you
want
to
it's
sort
of
not
intended
to
be
basic,
and-
and
you
know
one
thing-
people
often
cite
when
they
talk
about
this-
is
they
cite
the
white
paper
which
which
does
mention
something
about
basic
resistance,
but
personally
I?
B
Think
that
that's
a
terrible
resource
because
it
just
doesn't
reflect
the
reality
of
aetherium
as
it
is
today
or
as
it
ever
was
so
I?
Don't
wanna
get
hung
up
on
this
particular
point,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
there's
sort
of
a
general
consensus
in
the
community
that
aetherium
is
supposed
to
be
a
secret
enforce
definition,
a
basic
resistance,
but
like
I
personally,
am
NOT
convinced
about
myself.
So
there's
kind
of
dissenting
opinions
there.
B
B
You
know
working
on
things
like
GPUs
at
companies
like
Nvidia
and
AMD,
and
the
idea
of
cod
POW
is
that
it's
its
ASIC
resistant
in
a
very
interesting
way,
because
what
it
is
is
it's
designed
so
that
the
ASIC
to
compute
product,
how
would
be
a
GPU
if
that
makes
sense
right
and
the
argument
that
the
prog
power?
Sorry,
that
the
if
deaf
ELLs
team
makes
is
that
a
GPU
is
an
ASIC.
B
Basically,
and
if
we
design
an
algorithm
that
uses
as
much
of
the
GPU
chip
area
as
possible,
then
by
definition,
you
can't
design
a
better
ASIC
than
a
GPU.
So
that's
the
motivation
for
it.
That's
where
it
emerged
from
there's
been
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
over
the
past,
I'd
say
five
or
six
months
between
this
team
and
some
of
the
core
dev
folks,
including
Pavel
and
Martin
Holst.
Sorry,
Martin
swindie,
who
have
been
very
involved
in
reviewing
the
spec
and
Pavel,
did
an
implementation
in
East
minor
in
C++,
and
they
had
some.
B
They
found
some
issues
with
the
spec
and
there's
been
some
back-and-forth
and
one
member
of
the
prog
of
the.
If
def
else,
team.
Her
name
is
Kristy
has
been
so
she
kind
of
identified
herself
early
on
and
she's
been
especially
active
in
this
dialogue.
She's
joined
a
number
of
core
devs
calls,
she's
been
active
on
gator
answering
and
she
also
did
a
talk
at
def
con
on
prague
house.
I
urge
you
to
watch
that
video.
If
you
haven't
I,
guess
that's
the
background
and
then
fast-forwarding
to
the
present.
B
You
know
we're
at
a
point
now,
where
we're
six
or
eight
months
into
this
question
and
prague
cow
is
not
perfect,
but
it's
it
seems
to
be
workable,
and
you
know
people
are
asking
this
question.
If
we
have
an
algorithm,
that's
basically
ready
to
go
and
we're
running
out
of
time,
maybe
for
sort
of
combatting
Asics
on
the
etherium
Network.
Then
why
don't
we
go
with
it
and
deploy
it
and
I
guess?
B
The
last
thing
to
share
is
that
you
know
that
the
sort
of
tentative
decision
was
made
in
January
on
one
of
these
all
core
devs
calls
was
maybe
the
first
one
of
the
year
to
proceed
with
it.
If
there
are
no
big
issues
found
and
a
very
small
number
of
core
developers
have
had
an
opinion
on
this
up
to
now
and
including
on
that
call
where
the
decision
was
made,
it
was
one
of
these
sort
of
quote-unquote
consensus
by
Hudson
moments
where
Hudson
kind
of
said
well.
B
If
there's
no
dissenting
voices,
then
we'll
move
forward
and
no
one
dissented.
However,
after
that
call,
a
number
of
people
began
to
voice
opinions
about
it,
both
in
support
and
against
it.
So
Alexa,
aku
knob,
is
one
person
who
has
done
some
homework
and
he
posted
a
blog
post
about
this
a
few
days
ago,
which
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
seen
and
I
guess
where
we
are
today
is
my
personal
read.
Of
course
you
can
agree
or
disagree.
B
My
personal
read
on
the
situation
is
that
I
think
the
majority
of
core
developers
are
not
voicing
strong
opinions
because
either
a
they
don't
they
don't
have
a
strong
opinion,
be
they
don't
feel
qualified
to
decide
or
see
they
just
haven't
made
up
their
minds
and
and
so
for
better
or
for
worse.
You
know
the
decision
on
the
last
call
was
made
hey.
B
Let's
do
an
audit
to
answer
some
of
these
outstanding
questions,
so
that's
kind
of
good,
because
more
information
is
good,
but
it's
kind
of
bad
as
well,
because
you
know
when
you
can't
decide
something
and
you
keep
saying,
let's
investigate
more,
let's
investigate
more.
You
know,
that's
not
so
great,
because
we're
failing
to
come
to
consensus.
B
So
that's
my
read
on
the
situation
and
where
we
are
and
I
would
say,
this
is
really
sort
of
a
watershed
moment
for
the
cat
herders,
because
it's
the
first
like
very
critical
piece
of
ecosystem
work,
that's
been
assigned
to
and
I
think
that
it
will
demonstrate
whether
this
group
I
mean
not
not
to
be
too
dramatic
here
but
sort
of
whether
this
group
is
going
to
work
or
not.
If
that
makes
any
sense,
think.
B
C
B
We
need
to
figure
this
out
right,
I
mean
we
are
in
theory
a
group
of
project
managers
who
are
experienced
doing
stuff
like
this
right.
So
again
we
kind
of
need
to
prove
that
to
the
world,
so
we've
been
given
an
ill-defined
task
which
is
sort
of
you
know
a
list
of
questions,
and
you
know
we've
been
told
figure
out
if
this
works
answer.
These
questions,
I
would
say
resource
wise.
B
We
shouldn't
be
too
concerned
about
things
like
cost,
because
I'm
assuming
the
etherium
foundation
will
cover
the
cost,
but
I
think
we
do
need
to
come
back
with
like
a
timeline
and
a
budget.
So
to
the
question
before
I,
don't
know
what
that
timeline
needs
to
be.
My
gut
would
tell
me
you
know:
I'd
say
the
longest
we
could
get
away
with
would
be
two
to
three
months.
I'd
say
something
in
the
order
of
six
ish
weeks
would
be
better
I,
don't
know
how
long
these
things
take.
A
B
A
B
Doubt
any
of
those
organizations
are
qualified,
because,
unfortunately,
this
is
a
hardware.
Audit
and
I
think
that
there's
a
very
small
like
this
on
the
entire
planet,
probably
only
five
or
six
or
seven
organizations
that
are
qualified
to
do
this
Christie
recommended
a
few
I'll
dig
that
up
and
share
that
I
think
she
may
have
done
that
in
the
all
card.
That's
channel
or
something
so
I
think
it's
it's
a
small
menu
of
options.
I
also
think
that
we
probably
want
more
than
one
because
of
possible
conflicts
of
interest
or
whatever
yeah.
C
B
I
agree,
I,
think
step.
One
is
come
up
with
a
list
of
questions.
We
have
a
lot
of
good
raw
material
here
from
Hudson
and
and
Martin,
and
whoever
else
contributed
to
this
I
I
get
the
gut
feeling
looking
at
this
list.
That,
like
a
lot
of
these,
are
very
subjective
things
that
an
auditor
will
not
be
able
to
answer.
So
maybe
there
needs
to
be
some
back-and-forth
with
the
auditor.
B
I
I
agree
as
well
that
we
should
I
mean
I
I
I
don't
have
any
reason
personally
to
suspect
Christy
or
any
of
the
other
Estelle's
people
of
lickle
terior
motives,
but
for
the
sake
of
the
community,
I
think
that
it's
very
important
that
we
do
this
and
as
impartial
of
a
manner
as
possible,
so
I
think
absolutely.
We
want
to
get
multiple
voices
for
sure.
C
E
B
G
C
B
J
B
We
can
double
check
with
Hudson
because
he
compiled
this
I
would
want
to
make
sure
before
sharing
it
publicly.
But
my
guess
is:
he
would
say
that
we're
just
just
trying
to
clean
it
up
a
little
bit
before
we
share
it.
Just
because
it's
a
kind
of
long-term
messy
I
certainly
think
that
this
entire
process
should
be
as
transparent
as
possible
and
I
was
going
to
suggest
as
well.
Given
the
sort
of
sensitive
nature
of
this
whole
thing,
this
whole
controversial
question
of
pronto.
B
J
L
J
D
B
Yeah
Hugo,
thank
you,
I
think.
That's
the
right
question
to
ask.
From
my
perspective.
The
real
goal
here
is
really
governance
right,
so
it's
really
getting
to
a
place
where
the
folks
who
are
responsible
for
implementing
this
and
deciding
on
the
the
hard
fork
are
comfortable
making
that
decision.
That's
the
high
level
goal
right,
so
part
of
this
process,
maybe
should
be
interviewing
in
some
fashion.
You
know
the
the
folks,
the
core
dev
folks
and
kind
of
figuring
out.
D
D
D
B
Hugo
I
agree,
I,
agree
as
well
that
it's
something
that
could
be
useful
for
this
group
to
do
in
general
on
other
issues
as
well.
In
this
particular
case,
I
think
it's
especially
important.
We
would
want
to
ask
the
question
you
know
given
that
the
community,
given
that
the
core
devs
makes
decisions
through
rough
consensus.
Are
there
any
or
devs
who
have
a
kind
of
over
my
dead
body,
opposition
to
prague,
pow?
And
if
the
answer
is
no,
then
maybe
we
don't
need
an
audit
in
the
first
place.
B
D
Maybe
even
just
that
so
obviously
that
that's
very
important,
but
some
people
might
not
feel
as
strong
as
that.
So
maybe
we
don't
find
core,
that's
saying
not
over
my
dead
body,
because
maybe
those
people
would
have
already
speak
up
their
minds,
but
maybe
we
start
to
find
Deb's.
Who
said
you
know,
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
not
really
sure
have.
You
know,
have
some
doubts
about
these
in
these
in
this
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
really
need
to
find
out
right.
So
what
are
those
doubts?
What
would
make
the
for
Deb's
comfortable
enough
exactly.
B
So,
just
just
to
be
very
explicit,
this
is
not
just
an
audit
right,
so
the
audit
is
kind
of
the
clear
kind
of
concrete
specific
assignment,
but,
as
hugo
is
alluding
to
it's
more
than
an
audit
I
mean
this
is
again
I,
don't
want
to
be
overly
dramatic,
but
this
is
sort
of
exactly
what
the
cat
herders
was
set
up
to
do
right.
This
is
really
a
question
of
governance
and
project
management
and
just
getting
everyone
on
the
same
page
and
figuring
out
how
to
tackle
a
very
loosely
defined
problem.
I.
D
Will
go
through
these
are
a
separate
task.
I
mean
getting
feedback
from
all
codex.
I
would
treat
it
as
a
separate
task,
so
maybe
some
of
us
can
start
working
on
cleaning
up
the
audit
document
and
start
talking
to
potential
companies
today,
and
some
of
us
can
you
know,
former
small
group,
maybe
four
or
five
people
and
get
contact
details
of
cortex
and
start
arranging
call
with
them
cause.
G
I
I
G
E
G
C
H
All
right
wall
go
over
the
action
items
anyway,
just
in
case
people,
cuz
I,
know.
Adam
just
said
he
has
to
go
to
another
call
so
I
the
first
one.
We
kind
of
all
agreed
that
the
Prada,
which
includes
the
requirements,
the
general
plan,
the
roadmap
auditor
options
and
contacting
general
people
for
their
opinion.
His
number
one
second
would
be
finishing
the
web
site
and
hosted
on
github
pages.
That
would
be
a
Hugo
myself
and
Adams
that
he
could
help
us
with
the
custom
domain.
H
There
number
three
is
the
eath
catheters
community
post,
essentially
just
detailing
what
we
are
and
how
to
get
involved
and
just
how
to
generally
help
out
in
the
p.m.
for
etherium
number.
Four
was
action
items
on
the
post-mortem,
so
the
subcommittee
was
myself
Brett,
Hugo
and
puja
Ron.
We
can
all
coordinate
outside
of
this
Colin
Gator
and
then
the
last
one
was
just
general
high-level
stuff
for
the
e
theory
and
potential
developer
portal.
Just
getting
designs
details
on
what
it
contains,
maybe
picking
a
specific
date
on
when
we
can
get
a
general
MVP
up.