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A
Generally
I
have
been
using
both
accounts,
I
mean
both
the
providers,
the
Zoho
and
the
protonmail.
The
basic
difference
between
both
of
them
is
like
Zoho,
provides
I,
think
up
till
five
and
bogb
is
like
free
email
and
protonmail
has
a
charge
of
around
five
dollars
every
month.
So
I
would
like
to
hear
more
thoughts
on
it
number
one.
A
So
we
are
discussing
that,
should
we
have
an
email
account
for
the
cat
herder
with
the
cat
herder
domain,
such
as
like
we
have
aetherium
care.com.
So
if
we
go
via
Zoho,
there
is
a.
There
is
a
way
to
get
an
email,
like
you
know,
suppose,
contact
at
aetherium
cat
harder
calm.
So
this
is
the
thing
that
we
can
get.
Why
are
using
Zoho
provider
and
I'm,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
they
provide
three
to
five
free
emails
and
each
of
them
have
around.
Like
has
around
like
five
MB
or
something
free.
A
C
Maybe
just
to
speak
to
protonmail
for
a
second
there's
two
different
plants
at
the
four
euro
a
month
plan,
so
you
can
have
one
custom
domain
name
and
I
think
the
next
step
up.
If
you
want
more
than
one
custom
domain
name
like
let's
say
something
in
addition
to,
like
you
know,
hello,
ad
aetherium
characters
calm.
So
then
I
think
it's
six
euro
a
month,
a
name
but
I'd,
have
to
double
check
it
and
I.
C
Think
the
real
question
between
Zillow
and
protonmail
is
what
level
of
security
we
need
to
have
on
the
we
need
to
have
on
the
on
the
email
I
mean
if
there's
gonna
be
potentially
sensitive.
Information
coming
across
the
email
probably
is
worth
it
today.
I
just
don't
know.
If
that's
an
email,
it's
going
to
be
seeing
anything,
secure
or
not.
I
doubt
I
also
don't
know
much
about
as
mo
security.
D
It
does
cool
I'm
looking
at
the
security
features
of
Zoho,
and
it
seems
sufficient
to
me,
based
on
my
limited
what
am
I
trying
to
say,
limited
I
guess
experience.
It
has
stuff
like
Demark
and
it's
encrypted
in
transit,
the
email
and
deem
marks
usually
pretty
important.
You
can
use
OAuth
to
sign
on
that's
fine
yeah.
D
A
B
A
D
A
That
sounds
good,
like
we
don't
have
to
make
decision
right
away.
This
was
just
a
proposal,
so
we
can
explore
more
and
we'll
try
to
compare
these
both
platform,
because
the
first
question
was:
do
we
need
it
so
I
think
most
of
us
are
agreeing.
Yes,
we
do
need
it
at
this
point
of
time.
I
will
explore
more
and
then
we'll
discuss
it
for
them.
Yeah.
A
Okay,
moving
on
the
next
item
is
upgrading
cat
order.
Multisig
wallet.
This
item
is
under
discussion
for
the
past
few
meetings.
A
few
meeting
back
Hudson
brought
it
I
had
been
suggested.
Upgrading
the
cat
aroma,
my
Disick
wallet
to
the
latest
version
of
noses
wallet.
As
the
my
recollection,
most
of
the
group
members
are
in
favor
of
this,
so
I
was
wondering
if
we
can
set
it
aside,
some
next
steps
or
maybe
a
target
date
when
we
are
planning
to
do
that.
Oh
yeah.
D
Sorry
I'm
eating
myself.
Here's
I
posted
in
zoom
chat
the
new
multi-sig
I,
like
the
interface
more.
It's
cleaner
and
I've
only
put
in
five
hundred
died
at
a
hundred
us
DC
and
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
we
can
effectively
transfer
out
tokens
and
that
it's
a
clean
process
and
everyone
can
use
it
before
I
put
more
coins
in
there.
But
I
do
want
to
start
paying
out
some
of
the
older
things
and
the
funding
cat
herders
repository
so
I'll
get
with
people
today
to
do
that.
D
D
E
A
C
A
C
F
G
A
A
F
A
A
Sounds
good
I
have
one
update
here
like
after
this
meeting
with
EAP
IP
meeting
I
had
another
meeting
with
James
Hancock.
They
had
four
coordinators
so
for
some
reason
he
is
not
able
to
join
the
cathead
and
meetings
that
we
have
on
a
regular
basis,
but
we
agreed
to
connect,
maybe
weekly
or
bi-weekly,
to
share
updates
what
we
are
doing
here
and
what,
where
we
can
be
helpful
for
the
heartful
process,
because
to
my
understanding
this
is
the
primary
thing
of
scattered
is
right
now
supporting
the
upgrades
as
well
as
some
other
things.
A
So
we
discussed
two
things
there.
One
was
the
EIP
Europe
Oakland
er,
which
I
think
is
more
would
be
more
relevant
to
bring
it
up
in
the
next
IP
IP
meeting
and
after
the
decision
on
the
process
that
we
are
currently
discussing
in
the
EIP
ib
meeting.
We
can,
we
can,
you
know,
kind
of
resume
de
apd
up
of
clean
up
earlier
that
we
did,
and
there
was
some
confusion
that
brent
bring
bring
forward
about
the
acceptance
of
the
you
know
the
change
of
this
status
of
the
EIP.
A
So
he
is
willing
to
support
in
that
willing
to
reopen
those
things
if
need
be,
and
maybe
in
the
next
meeting
or
any
of
the
forthcoming
meeting
we
will
be
discussing
about
it.
The
second
important
thing
that
we
discussed
was
the
AIP
post
morton
template
that
I
have
been
working
for
you
know
I
mean
III
I
took
it
for
myself
that
I
would
be
taking
care
of
it.
I'm
just
sharing
a
link
and
chat.
It
is
a
template
that
just
we
have
created
I
would
love
to
hear
some
feedback
on
it.
A
A
D
A
A
Moving
on
the
next
item
is
1559
design,
Tom
T
I
know
that
Trent
is
I'm.
Sorry
I
know
that
Tim
is
going
to
organize
another
meeting.
This
Thursday.
We
will
be
getting
more
visibility
in
in
that
meeting,
but
the
two
important
tasks
that
that
we
have
came
across
is
like
in
such
a
stir.
That
first
thing
that
we
should
be
focusing
on
is
the
fun
collection,
and
the
second
is
the
selection
of
the
event
for
organizing
this
hackathon.
So
I
talked
to
a
global
team,
they
add
Trent
from
there
and
he
mentioned
that.
A
It
definitely
would
need
to
be
a
part
of
a
larger
event,
because
this
is
something
very
important
happening
in
this
etherium
space.
So
at
this
point
of
time
they
they
are
having
their
even
which
is
going
to
be
concluded
in
the
first
week
of
June,
and
currently
there
is
no
further
visibility
when
they
would
be
coming
up,
but
expectation
is
within
a
month
or
two.
So
this
is
just
one
place
where
we
are
reaching
out
to
get
to
make
sure
that
this
hackathon
is
included.
A
E
Sorry
I
couldn't
find
the
mute
button.
Yeah
I've
also
been
kind
of
just
keeping
an
eye
out
for
for
events
this
to
be
a
good
fit
for
so
I
think
if
anyone
has
like
C's
good
hackathons
that
they
think
this
yeah,
this
could
be
a
good
bounty
for
I.
Think
it'll
be
much
easier
to
get
kind
of
people
to
pay
for
the
bounty.
Once
once
we
have
a
specific
event
and
I
guess
just
related
the
IP
1559.
We
have
another
implementers
call.
This
Thursday.
E
A
E
So
let
me
yeah,
let
me
follow
up
with
Griffin
today
and
I'll.
Let
people
know
all
that
people
know
by
the
end
of
the
day
or
tomorrow.
If
we
need
someone,
it
would
be
this
Thursday
and
it's
at
the
same
time
as
the
Chordettes
call,
and
it
should
be
a
bit
shorter,
its
skin.
It's
scheduled
for
90
minutes,
but
I
think
it
might.
They
might
run
a
bit
shorter,
I,
just
posted
the
link
in
the
chat.
A
Yes,
Sheila,
please
do
let
us
know
and
like
we
will
try
to
make
sure
that
if
a
person
is
is
already
scheduled
for
h2
meeting
and
he
should
not
be,
but
somebody
and
she'll
be
participating.
I
am
anyway
going
to
join
that
meeting,
because
I'm
not
scheduled
for
it
too
and
I
would
want
to
keep
a
track
of
that.
So
if
nobody
comes
up
and
I
would
be
certainly
available
to
take
the
notes
and
if
needed,
we
will
create
a
schedule
for
just
for
future
meetings.
E
A
Okay,
great
so
now.
The
next
item
is
cat,
herders
funding
through
ecosystem
support
program
and
malach
Tao.
We
did
not
hear
back
from
ESP
at
this
point
of
time.
I
mean
ten.
So
far,
so
we
are
trying
to
reach
out
to
Molly
to
tell
people
for
funding
I
tried
to
create.
You
know
what
they
sing:
I,
try
to
create
a
post
in
demonic
discourse,
but
unfortunately
my
account
has
been
temporarily
suspended
on
hold
or
I.
Don't
know
why
I
did
it
seven
years
back
and
also
did
a
follow-up
message
five
days
back
but
I'm.
A
Yet
to
hear
back
from
these
people
try
to
reach
one
of
the
members,
but
he
said
that
he
may
have
to
try
to
you
know:
get
a
hold
of
system
administrator
I'm,
not
sure
what
other
ways
are
there
to
get
this
on
hold
or
you
know
unlock
it.
If
people
have
any
suggestion
on
that,
please
do
let
me
know
otherwise.
I
was
just
thinking
of
mentioning
it
in
Twitter
and
adding
them
to
the
bowl
of
trip.
So
if
somebody
can
pop
up
and
help
me
out.
D
A
A
I'm
just
gonna
share
the
link
right
here
for
people
interested,
so
this
is
basically
tracking
the
the
EAPs
that
are
planned
for
this
test
net,
and
this
is
also
being
tracked.
Client
voice
in
this
bullet
upgrade
tracker
sheet
that
we've
been
maintaining,
for
you
know
individual
AI
piece.
It
has
three
stages
signal
spec
and
much.
At
this
point
of
time
we
have
four
trines
showing
signals
that
they
would
intend
to
participate
in
this
test
net
and
they.
A
D
E
E
E
D
E
Is
the
gas
cost
change
I?
Don't
think
so
because
so
there
were
two
proposals
for
that:
EEP
one
was
just
a
change,
a
single
gas
costs
and
it
seems
like
OPM
has
like
they
can't
do
that,
and
so
the
second
proposal
was
to
change
the
whole
formula
for
how
I
forget
which,
like
pre
Kabbalah's,
is
it's
calculated.
It
now
is
a
bit
more
complex
and
I
think
they're
starting
to
work
on
it,
but
I
doubt
it'll
be
ready
and
fine
yeah.
A
D
D
A
A
A
A
D
So
I
think
that
we
should
hold
off
updating
the
website
till
we
have
more
information
about
it,
except
for
if
with
the
yellow
test
net
does
come
out
when
it
comes
out,
we
can
say:
hey
it's
there
and
get
more
information,
but
otherwise
putting
more
information
than
just
Berlin
is
coming.
I
think
is
gonna,
be
because
it
could
change
so
rapidly.
That
might
not
be
a
good
idea.
A
To
this
part,
so
for
this
time
I
have
not
added
any
new
information.
It
shows
that
the
information
about
Yolo
s
net
is
already
available
in
the
EIP
sheet
that
we
are
tracking
for
Berlin
inclined
voice.
So
if
anybody
is
interested,
they
can
track
it
from
there,
and
it's
not
specifically
mentioned
on
the
website.
They
can't
address
website.
A
A
G
A
Good
progress,
yeah
yeah,
the
next
few
items
are
like
discuss,
discuss
and
close
the
e
CH
github
issues
here,
for
we
have
two
links
available
here:
one
is
p.m.
fun
and
another
one
is
the
funding
one
funding
I
just
remember,
like
my
Hudson
mentioned
that
he
would
be
clearing
out
some
of
their
fundings
after
this
new
wallet,
so
I
hope
it
would
be
taken
care
of.
Do
we
have
any
new
issue
in
the
TN
section:
let's
go
there.
A
A
A
A
Thank
you
for
the
notes.
Jim
and
Brent.
The
decisions
made
was
captured.
The
highlights
of
all
chord
F
e
IP,
IP,
x2
and
aetherium
stateless
meeting
to
the
EC
H
sub
stacking
list.
I
take
I.
Think
in
July
did
that,
but
we
have
to
wait
for
her
for
further
information
on
this.
This
item
next
is
approach:
Moloch
tau
for
cattle,
defunding,
I'm
gonna
reach
out
to
her
person.
For
this
to
get
my
account,
you
know
out
of
hold
situation
the
next.
The
next
decision
item
is
used.
A
Another
important
decision
items
submit
meeting
notes
within
three
to
five
days.
Three
days
is
ideal.
We
are
observing
some
gap
over
here
for
some
reason,
I,
don't
know
why
it
happened.
Like
one
person
was
scheduled
for
three
consecutive
meetings.
This
happens
because
some
or
the
other
person,
just
you
know,
measure
out
some
meeting
more.
Some
meeting
days
have
been
postponed
it.
So
we
would
like
to
reshuffle
it,
but
I
would
again
like
to
request
everybody
here.
A
Please
let
us
know
in
advance
that
if
I
would
be
able
to
make
up
make
it
for
this
meeting
or
that
meeting
and
if
they
have
any
issues,
please
request
for
a
replacement
or
let
us
know
at
least
that
he
would
not
be
available
so
that
we
can
have
some
somebody
else
scheduled
for
that
meeting
and
we
would
have
to
work
for
this
three
to
five
days.
Sla.
B
Before
we
leave,
that
topic
could
I
just
heckle
the
requests
that
Jim
and
I
really
aren't
that
good
at
doing
technical
notes
for
like
the
core
dev
or
the
2.0
calls
it
takes
us
forever
and
we
can't
meet
these
deadlines,
and,
and
so
if
we
could
request
that
the
number
of
core
dev
and
1.0
meetings
that
we
do
if
they
get
reshuffled.
If
we
do
significantly
less
of
those,
we
can
usually
handle
the
IP
IP
meetings
and
and
and
these
cat
order
meetings,
but
but
anyway,
just
FYI.
B
A
Completely
fair
grant,
if
you
would
like
to
do
the
EAP,
IP
and
catalyst
meeting
only
we
can
schedule
it
accordingly
and
not
everybody
is
doing
a
IP
IP
and
if
you
would
want
to
like
take
like
once
in
a
month
or
once
in
two
months,
because
it's
going
to
be
once
in
two
hundred
released.
If
we
have
four
members
there
so.
B
A
A
The
an
item
from
the
previous
meeting
is:
keep
the
1559
design
bounty
on
the
e
CH
website
and
write
up
a
blog
post
about
it.
We
are
keeping
this
to
1559
design
bounty
like
we
have
mentioned
some
something
about
every.
We
mentioned
that
what
we
are
planning
to
do
and
stuff
like
that,
but
we
are
holding
on
the
blog
post
for
now,
because
they
would
want
to
first
cut
and
confirm
the
you
know,
funding
part
and
they
meet
the
hackathon
that
we
would
be
planning
to.
A
The
next
action
item
is
follow
up
with
the
EC
ESP
and
Kat
Hodges
funding
on
Mon
of
tau
I,
provided
the
update
on
that
number
three
vote
on
images
for
the
community
promotion
ad
on
Stack,
Exchange,
I.
Think
for
today's
action
item.
It's
going
to
be
william
and
it's
in
working
together
to
get
this
thing
up
on
the
stock
exchange.
It's.
C
A
D
D
It
was
something
real
quick.
This
is
kind
of
cat,
herder
adjacent,
but
shout
out
to
Edson,
who
pointed
me
to
the
fact
that
aetherium
and
aetherium
foundation
related
names
on
twitch
weren't
owned
by
anybody
involved
in
the
etherium
or
the
etherium
foundation,
I
reached
out
to
twitch,
and
they
said
that
my
trademark
was
legit.
My
trademark
complaint
was
legitimate
and
they're,
giving
me
access
to
aetherium
and
some
aetherium
foundation
names
on
there.
So
that's
kind
of
in
coordination
with
some
of
the
work
the
cat
herders
have
been
doing
with
the
YouTube
takedowns.
A
B
A
A
Okay,
I,
just
figured
out
like
I,
had
one
more
thing:
I
missed
out
earlier.
It
came
up
during
the
discussion
with
James
Hancock.
It
was
related
to
AI
PLP
I
want
to
quickly
share
with
the
team,
because
I
have
not
proposed
it
and
when
that
LP
meeting
yet
but
I
would
want
to.
If
this
is
something
that
we
would
like
to
you
know
kind
of
person.
So
in
in
the
last
meeting
we
were
discussing
about
having
a
review
state
so
for
this
review.
A
State
I'm,
not
particularly
about
this
state
but
I,
was
thinking
it
before
and
I
kind
of
thought
of.
You
know
kind
of
having
our
reviews
scheduled,
so
I
proposed
it
to
James
two
things:
one
is
getting
reviewer
on
board
and
second,
the
review
process.
I
mean
if
it
is
okay
with
everybody.
I
would
quickly
like
to
share
the
few
points
that
are
shared
with
him.
A
We
can
come
up
with
a
reviews
schedule
sheet
in
which
we
might
primarily
want
to
have
a
reviewer
name,
the
EIP
number
page,
to
be
report,
etc,
kind
of
thing
people
might
find
it
a
little
inconvenient
and
initially,
but
I
think
eventually
it
will
be
helpful
in
streamlining
the
process,
so
that
was
about
getting
reviewer
on
board
and
the
second
part
of
it
was
review
process
once
a
PR
or
AIP
is
listed
as
potential
efi
or
has
it
been
introduced
in
the
city?
Call
the
cat
herders
in
coordination
with
james
they
had
four
coordinated.
A
So
we
get
15
days
time
to
get
at
least
one
EFP
reviewed
before
the
next
meeting,
and
if
we
come
up
with
a
calendar
that
might
be
like
bringing
it
to
a
streamlined
process
and
they
would
be
able
to
do
reviews
way
ahead
of
the
upgrade
tongue
so,
and
that
would
be
helpful,
not
rushing
to
include
that
EIP
or
not,
including
AP
or
maybe
overburdening
jobs
at
that
time,
to
go
ahead
and
review.
That,
and
one
last
point
here
is
like
we
would
share
the
review
report.
They
I
mean
the
cat.
A
Herders
would
shared
the
review
report
with
the
developers
and
the
all
coded
meetings
and
maybe
two
days
before
the
meeting
so
that
they
can
finally
discuss
it
in
the
meeting.
So
these
this
was
the
proposal
for
a
review
process.
That
I
was
thinking
that
we
should
be
bringing
up
in
the
year
EAP
meeting
and
yeah
any
thoughts
on
that.
A
And
that's
fine,
the
like
kind
of
conclusion
we
reached
here
with
with
James.
He
said
that
which
this
is
something
we
may
implement,
but
that
would
come
after
the
finalization
of
the
review
state
that
we
are
discussing
at
this
point
of
time,
because
that
would
give
us
more
clarity
what
we
would
be
doing
with
that
state
and
how
we
would
be
you
know
going
into
the
next
state.
So
maybe
that
would
be
helpful
to
bring
it
after
the
meeting
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
share.