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From YouTube: ECH Meeting 113
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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/363
A
A
Then
we
will
discuss
a
little
bit
about
ethereum
Network
upgrades
the
upgrade
that
is
coming
up,
gen
cone
and
perhaps
what
will
happen
after
that,
followed
by
some
other
protocol
development
and
research
update?
We
will
talk
about
event
fellowship
and
hackathons
and
some
general
discussion
of
on
how
we
are
maintaining
our
websites
and
what
are
the
other
key
contribution
to
the
ecosystem.
A
So
let
me
invite
James
to
First,
maybe
introduce
himself
and
then
talk
about
project.
Optent,
welcome,
James,.
B
B
B
B
So
you
can
pretty
much
understand
the
setup
like
this.
So
if
you
remember
Golem
from
a
long
time
ago,
we
had
a
very
successful
crowdfunding
round
even
before
icos
were
a
popular
thing
back
in
2016
raised
about
820,
000
youth,
if
I
remember
correctly
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time.
The
initial
idea
around
this
was
to
build
a
peer-to-peer
Marketplace
for
computing
power,
with
the
rapid
rise
in
ethereum
and
its
value.
B
This
obviously
led
to
us
having
a
significant
amount
of
funding
and
so
in
2019
Golan
separated
into
two
different
entities,
so
there's
Golem
Network,
which
is
still
building
this
Marketplace
for
computing
power
and
I
work
on
Golden
Foundation
side,
which
is
also
or
which
is
additionally
pursuing
different
Ventures.
Outside
of
that
initial
Mission,
while
hopefully
adding
both
value
to
the
glm
ecosystem
and
more
broadly,
the
ethereum
ecosystem,
and
so
we
think
that
OCTA
does
both
that.
So
with
that
in
mind,
the
basic
setup
is
this
with
octin.
B
Is
that
we're
going
to
be
staking
100,
000
you
and
then
using
the
rewards
to
power
the
application?
Often?
And
so,
if
you
look
in
the
middle
of
this
diagram
right
here,
any
user
of
octin
who
locks
100
glm,
which
is
about
a
20
buy-in,
so
pretty
minimal
amount
of
of
capital
needed
to
participate
here
every
three
months,
you're
going
to
be
presented
in
ethereum
reward
relative
to
how
much
or
I'm
sorry
I
should
say
proportional,
proportional
to
how
much
you
stake
into
the
application.
B
B
But
ideally
we
would
love
to
see
some
meaningful
funding
going
to
various
public
goods
projects.
Now
some
small
but
important
details
that
matter
so
you
have
to
lock
glm.
B
Otherwise,
you
get
nothing
so
there's
an
aspect
of
taking
action
here
and
then
there's
this
magic
of
the
square
root
that
my
two
Founders,
who
are
who
are
economists
have
have
have
developed,
and
so
it's
a
it's
a
really
unique
way
in
where
the
less
amount
of
our
total
Supply
that's
locked,
there's
actually
a
larger
reward
pool
that
that
is
generated
and
the
entire
mathematics
and
how
it
breaks
out.
B
You
can
see
this
in
our
documentation
that
I'll
share
at
the
end
of
this
presentation,
but
essentially
people
if,
if
a
lot
of
people
who
are
are
claiming
rewards
for
themselves,
the
few
that
choose
to
donate
have
even
more
impact
over
this
match
of
reward
pool.
So
so
their
donations
are
multiplied
even
more.
So
it's
pretty
pretty
neat
mechanism
design
where
we
further
want
to
take
this
after
this
initial
stage.
Mvp
that
I'm,
describing
to
you
right
now
is
that
we
see
this
as
a
unique
sandbox
for
experimentation.
B
So
what
we're
hoping
to
provide
is
an
ability
for
developers
because
we're
doing
this
in
every
90-day
windows
or
what
we
call
epochs
we're
hoping
to
provide
this
platform
to
where
Builders,
who
are
developing
some
kind
of
coordination
mechanism.
Maybe
it's
an
anti-civil
tool.
Maybe
it's
a
delegation
framework
whatever
it
may
be,
we're
hoping
to
provide
this
area
to
where
a
developer
can
deploy
their
tool
in
our
environment,
for
any
given
Epoch
and
with
users
having
real
money
at
stake.
B
We
can
hopefully
provide
them
much
more
tangible
feedback
about
what
they're
building
if
it
actually
works
in
a
real
life
environment.
So
we
see
this
as
a
we
see
Octan
as
an
experimentation
across
a
few
different
fronts:
experimentation
in
funding
of
public
goods
via
Community
Driven
action
and
then
also
experimentation
around
different
coordination
mechanisms
and
hopefully,
finding
out
what
actually
works
in
this
decentralized
space
that
we're
all
working
in
and
so
we
haven't
launched
yet
we're
going
to
be
launching
in
August
and
so
to
kick
things
off
before
we
launch.
We
have
this
initiative.
B
And
it's
going
to
be
running
or
the
poll
is
going
to
be
open
for
a
week,
long
from
July
21st
to
July
28th
and
everyone
who
votes
on
Snapshot
via
weighted
vote
voting
mechanism,
meaning
you
can
spread
your
vote
amongst
any
of
the
10
projects
or
as
many
of
the
10
projects.
As
you'd
like
that.
B
That
vote
is
essentially
going
to
decide
the
distribution
of
this
one
million
dollars
worth
of
beef
and
so
the
way
that
we're
gating
this
vote
is
we're
handing
out
poapps
to
community
members
who
care
about
funding
public
goods.
B
So
we've
been
trying
to
get
the
word
out
at
HCC
at
funding
the
commons
and
other
virtual
events,
such
as
the
one
we're
doing
right
now,
and
so
we're
just
looking
to
raise
awareness
around
Octane
and
hopefully
driving
some
impactful
funding
to
these
10
different
public
goods
projects,
including
ech,
and
hopefully
from
their
kickstarting
Octane
and
moving
into
this
I
guess
you
could
say
this:
continual
evolution
of
experimentation
in
in
governance
and
funding.
B
So
here
are
the
the
different
projects
as
I
mentioned.
Obviously,
ech
is
one
of
them,
but
we
also
have
supermodular
protocol
Guild,
giveth,
Bitcoin,
kernel,
clear
funds,
Dow
drops
drips
and
eat
stakers,
so
these
are
the
10
projects
that
you
can
distribute
your
voting
power
amongst,
and
so,
if
you
would
like
to
find
out
more,
you
can
find
out
how
octin
works
and
a
lot
more
useful
information.
Our
doctor,
in
my
opinion,
very
well
explained
in
a
concise
manner,
by
visiting
docs.octant.app
and
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
A
Very
well,
thank
you
so
much
James
for
giving
this
presentation
and
I'm
really
happy
that
Canada's
are
a
part
of
this
Grant
Public
good
funding
ground
that
we
are
having
and
again
I'm
happy
that
we
are
being
considered
with
one
of
not
one
actually
nine
of
the
best
ecosystem
projects.
So
it's
a
it's
a
great
honor
for
me,
I'm
hoping
people
on
call.
B
A
B
For
example
like
if,
if
you
like,
you
want
to
be
able
to
support
ethereum
cat
herders
and
protocol
Guild
and
giveth
or
each
taker
yeah
you
can
you
can
select
those
three
or
four
projects
and
and
distribute
that
your
your
weighted
vote,
yeah
amongst
as
many
as
you'd
like
so
there's
no
I,
guess
rival,
Earth
way
in
which,
in
which
you're
able
to
vote.
A
That's
awesome
that
gives
like
even
voters
more
flexibility.
They
do
not
have
to
stress
a
lot
like
I
can
vote
only
one
project
so.
B
C
A
B
Yeah,
so
so
the
way
that
snapshot
works
is
it
hits
takes
a
snapshot
of
the
blockchain,
so
we
could
still
hand
up
hoapps
after
Friday,
but
with
the
poll
open,
it's
going
to
be
taking
a
snapshot
of
who
has
it
at
that
cut
off
point.
So,
unfortunately,
if
you
got
the
poab
after
the
the
poll
is
launched,
snapshot
wouldn't
recognize
you
as
a
holder,
so
so
yeah
getting
this
PO
app
into
your
hands
prior
to
Friday
would
be
would
be
the
ideal
scenario.
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
James.
You
are
welcome
to
stay
back
if
you
would
like
to
otherwise
feel
free
to
drop
off
and
we
can
go
ahead
and
continue
with
our
usual
updates.
We'll
try.
A
Moving
on
to
our
carriers
meeting
then
first
item
listed
here
is
ethereum
Network
upgrade,
which
is
Cancun
and
then
up
upgrade.
We
all
know
that
done
code.
The
combination
of
Cancun
internet
is
expected
in
Q4
2023.
Currently
we
are
testing
and
we
have
different
7
open,
there's
a
hope
that
definite
8
will
have
all
spec
changes
included
till
10.7.
It's
only
four,
eight
four
four,
if
I
mention
it
correctly,
The
Blob
proposal
is
there,
but
for
rest
of
the
proposals
which
are
listed
here
on
the
agenda.
A
A
We
are
about
to
share
the
first
talk
on
704
for
perpetually
valid
sign,
voluntary
exit,
which
we
recorded
with
the
dapline
and
that's
very
short
and
sweet
proposal,
but
it
was
interesting
to
follow
how
trying
to
obtain
like
how
consensus
layer,
client
team
are
trying
to
follow
the
EIT
process.
On
a
similar
note,
eap7045
documented
by
Danny.
B
A
Which
is
to
increase
Max
attestation
intuition
slot
will
be
recorded
tomorrow
at
18,
30
UTC.
So,
should
you
have
any
question
if
you
are
a
validator
and
it
would
be
interested
in
learning
about
what
does
increase
Max
attestation?
Inclusion
plot
means,
please
feel
free
to
join
us
on
the
recording.
Otherwise,
the
episode
will
be
live
on
the
following
Monday.
A
People
can
also
follow
4844
implementers
call,
recording
and
tense
tweet
there's
a
Readiness
checklist,
because
4844
is
the
biggest
EIP
that
is
getting
into
the
tank
on
upgrade.
So
we
are
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
are
following
the
checklist
please
check
out
and
that
will
help
you
understand
the
status
of
Readiness.
Similarly,
we
have
a
Cancun
Readiness
checklist.
We
are
hoping
to
have
a
denim
Readiness
checklist
as
well
for
some
useful
resources.
We
have
recorded
multiple
episodes
on
Peep
and
Eep.
A
A
They
were
analyzed
by
a
third
party
called
the
job
team.
They
had
an
impact
study
on
the
transition
to
SSD
because,
as
we
know,
the
El
coin,
they
were
using
rlp
method,
but
CL
they
started
with
SSD.
So
if
there
is
a
transition
to
be
happening,
it's
important
that
we
need
to
find
out
if
anything
is
breaking
or
everything
is
all
right.
A
As
per
the
conclusion
reported
in
that
report,
they
find
that
out
of
all
the
contract
transaction
and
protocol,
they
observed
there
was
no
evidence
of
Reliance
on
transaction
route
and
they
have
categorized
the
disruption
that
this
eib
may
create,
either
of
this,
of
course.
So
for
six
four,
six
six,
it
is
moderate
but
manageable.
However,
for
6404
it
is
insignificant
and
very
low,
so
there
are
high
chances
that
6404
will
be
selected
over
six
four
six
six,
but
none
of
them
are
considered
in
CFI.
Yet
we
hope
to
hear
more
about
it.
In
upcoming.
A
A
So
please
follow
recording
if
you
have
missed
it.
I
also
joined
the
EPF
ethereum
protocol
fellowship
program.
There
was
this
very
interesting
meeting
people
who
are
interested
to
be
a
contributor
to
ethi
and
ecosystem,
so
how
this
protocol
Fellowship
will
work
there.
There
were
certain
people
who
were
selected
at
the
time
this
protocol
Fellowship
was
announced,
but
people
have
kept
it
open
and
non-commissionable
way.
So,
even
if
you
are
not
selected,
you
can
follow
the
meeting.
You
can
follow
the
Discord
communication
and
the
GitHub.
A
You
are
also
allowed
to
propose
your
own
project
at
the
end
of
this
fellowship
program.
Even
if
you
are
not
a
part
of
the
cohort
Fort
which
is
going
on
that
will
allow
us
to
get
more
people
involved,
and
if
your
project
is
selected,
perhaps
you
will
be
supported
with
some
financial
aid
to
reach
out
to
Istanbul
and
have
a
presentation
over
there.
So
anyone
interested
in
protocol
development,
even
if
they
missed
the
opportunity
to
join
the
fourth
cohort,
please
please,
please
check
out
the
GitHub
repository
reach
out
to
me.
A
A
A
Moving
on
next
is
event:
Fellowship
Heatherton,
as
I
was
talking
about
Dev
connect.
Istanbul
people
are
expecting
this
event
to
be
happening
in
November,
November,
13
to
19
I.
Suppose
the
announcement
is
already
out.
Yes,
I
have
learned
the
I
have
added
the
blog
post
of
ethereum.org.
Please
check
out.
A
There
is
another
scholar
program
that
they
are
organizing
and
the
application
is
open.
Till
July
23rd,
please
check
out
the
link
added
on
agenda
and
you'll
be
able
to
apply
if
you
haven't
done
it
already.
A
Very
well,
let's
move
on
as
we
are
trying
to
build
a
community,
we
are
also
keeping
a
track
of
the
social
media
and
how
we
can
grow.
It.
I
have
added
link
to
all
our
social
media
and
the
numbers
showing
like
how
many
people
are
there.
I
would
request
everyone.
Listening
to
this
call
like
share
as
much
as
you
can.
We
want
people
to
learn
about
ethereum.
We
want
people
to
know
more
and
also
we
would
like
to
extend
our
support
to
whoever
is
interested
in
contributing
to
the
ethereum
ecosystem.
A
C
Yeah,
this
is
a
brief
update,
so
added
some
updates
on
the
dencoon
page.
Where
now
we
include
the
most
recent
devmes,
which
is
devnet6
and
devnet7,
there's
a
PR
for
that
and
ready
to
be
merged
anytime.
C
Yes,
okay,
yeah
I'll.
Add
this
too.
A
A
All
right,
we
did
page
for
Duncan,
okay
operation
YouTube
shots.
For
now
we
have
created
a
shot
out
of
the
episode
that
we
are
creating
and
that
and
those
are
being
added
to
community
playlist
people
may
check
out
the
community
playlist
for
short
I
know:
Santosh
wanted
to
work
on
separating
the
videos.
Unfortunately
he
is
not
in
the
meeting
today
is
traveling,
but
he
would
also
be
owning
the
responsibility
of
writing
newsletter
and
doing
this
clip
created
for
the
community.
A
A
Eip
Insight,
if
I
remember
correctly,
let
me
just
quickly
take
a
look
at
it.
A
I
want
to
find
it
okay,
so
we
have
a
five
Eid
on
Final
status
and
we
do
have
one
in
last
call
which
I
think
last
call
has
already
passed.
There
are
three
proposals
in
review
and
three
proposal
in
draft
for
large
call
proposal,
which
number
is
6066
signature
validation,
method
for
nfts
I
would
recommend.
A
A
And
for
details,
please
check
out
the
hack,
MD
or
the
eits
inside
website.
Both
links
are
added
to
the
agenda.
Moving
on
to
p
penny,
we
have
multiple
stocks
on
dinner,
lined
up
for
the
next
week,
I
mean
next
few
weeks.
I've
got
it's
not
just
one.
So
tomorrow
we
are
going
to
have
eip7045
with
Danny
Ryan,
and
after
that
we
will
have
six
seven
eight
zero
self-destruct
only
in
the
same
transaction.
A
This
proposal
is
also
up
for
then
con
and
the
talk
is
organized
with
guilla
on
August,
2nd
4788,
which
is
like
recently
added
to
these
specs.
It's
a
beacon
block
route
in
the
evm,
and
it
would
be
explained
by
Annette
Stoke,
who
is
the
author
of
The
Proposal
on
August
8..
There
are
further
more
on
genep
testing
and
the
new
test
net
policy
test
net
that
will
perhaps
replace
the
quarterly
test
net.
A
So
we
are
expecting
launch
of
hollow
ski
somewhere
on
15th
September,
because
that
is
our
March
day
and
people
found
that
it
would
be
really
interesting
to
have
a
launch
of
another
test
net
public
test
net
on
the
merge
team
updates
on
the
development
of
this
test
net
is
also
discussed
on
the
coder
meeting.
So
if
you
want
to
follow
it
closely,
please
check
out
the
notes
left
by
paritosh
and
the
highlights
provided
by
him
on
the
coder
meeting.
A
If
there
is
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
learn
about
the
upcoming
upgrade
and
you
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
you
to
maybe
as
a
node
operator,
you
would
learn
how
to
run
it
and
how
to
make
sure
that
nothing
is
going
to
break
at
the
time
of
upgrade.
Please
let
us
know
I
will
be
happy
to
invite
the
developers
to
explain
that
proposal
or
the
concept
for
you,
so
it
becomes
easier
for
you
to
participate
in
here.
A
Excellent
other
than
that
we
have
meeting
notes
I
see
we
have
meeting
notes
for
every
meeting,
except
for
eight
five
and
the
last
Catalyst.
Okay.
I
will
have
to
follow
up
with
these
resources
to
make
sure
those
are
submitted
as
soon
as
possible,
but
for
other
meetings,
like
all
code,
Dev
execution
notes
for
165
is
available.
Encore
Dev
for
consensus
notes,
413
is
also
available.
A
We
do
organize
EAP
editing
office
hour,
every
other
Tuesday,
so
if
not
Test
Tuesday,
it
has
to
be
on
the
next
Tuesday,
but
the
time
is
1500
UTC.
All
new
EAP
authors
are
invited
to
join
us
and
ask
your
question
with
the
editor.
It's
a
very
interactive
process
like
any
kind
of
question
related
to
process
or
what
is
blocking
your
pull
request
to
get
merged
in
the
in
the
folder.
A
You
may
ask
everything
from
AP
editor
Sam
Wilson,
but
if
there
are
any
change
with
respect
to
a
proposal
which
are
already
in
Final,
this
meeting
will
not
be
helpful.
Today,
I
was
approached
by
an
author
that
they
have
submitted
their
proposal
and
it
has
moved
to
final,
but
they
want
to
make
small
changes.
For
authors,
who
want
to
make
small
changes
to
the
funnel
AIP
first
of
all,
this
is
not
a
good
practice
to
her.
A
We
don't
encourage
this
kind
of
practice,
but
if
the
changes
are
very
small
and
it's
not
affecting
the
original
aspect,
which
was
documented
as
a
standard,
perhaps
there
are
chances
that
it
may
get
updated.
But
for
that
it
would
require
more
than
one
editor's
approval,
and
we
would
like
to
discuss
that
in
eipip
meeting,
so
please
find
which
one
which
meeting
is
best
for
you.
So
you
can
show
up
and
explain
your
part
and
let
editors
decide
what
to
be
done
with
that.
A
Moving
on
the
next
item
is
new
initiative
and
Association,
so
yeah
we,
as
we
mentioned
in
the
last
meeting,
we
are
working
on
the
Twitter
thing
like
we
are
hoping
to
have
more
Twitter
reach
and
increase
on
social
media
output.
A
Outreach
santoshi
is
not,
and
today
so
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
have
more
updates
on
that,
we
may
perhaps
hold
and
have
it
in
the
next
meeting.
A
A
You're
very
welcome
all
right,
see
you
guys
in
next
two
weeks
have
a
great
one.
Everyone.