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From YouTube: ECH meeting 63
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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/216
A
B
Thank
you,
I'm
sure,
parker,
the
founder
and
ceo
of
maida
technologies.
We've
been
a
cutting-edge
company
for
ea
and
blockchains
and
from
heart
I've
been
always
a
technologist
who's
been
developing
things
hands-on,
so
happy
to
be
here.
Trying
to
you
know,
add
to
the
community,
and
I
mean-
and
I've
been
working
on
blockchain
since
the
very
start
and
I've
been
following
ethereum
from
2015.,
so
look
forward
to
contribute
more
effectively
with
you
all
and
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
A
As
for
the
introduction
shifa,
do
I
hear
that
eon,
blockchain
so
I'll
be
curious
to
understand
what
brings
you
to
the
evening
community?
I
mean
obviously
I'm
very
very
happy
that
you're
trying
to
explore
different
plating,
but
yes,.
B
Yeah,
so
we
I've
worked
on
blockchains
from
scratch
as
well.
Like
we've
developed
our
own
blockchains,
you
know
using
our
own
methods
as
well
of
various
different
consensus.
Algorithms,
however
ethereum
does
like
it's
changing,
and
this
change
is
what
brings
me
here
and
I've
hands-on
experience
the
industrial
challenges
when
it
comes
to
stake,
stakeholdership
and
I'm
aware
of
various
different
industries
across
like
maritime
oil
and
gas
and
supply
chain
so
wanted
to
ensure,
like
you
know,
those
learnings
can
be
leveraged
for
the
sake
of
community
as
well,
and
we
can
shape
the
product.
B
A
We
hope
the
same.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
joining
us.
The
meeting
today.
Thank
you.
Moving
on
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
ech
website.
We
are
joined
by
michael
from
the
advantage,
michael
if
you
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
provide
the.
A
Looks
like
some
microphone
issue
with
michael
welcome
back
to
this
item
may
be
later
on.
A
A
Are
linked
in
the
agenda
item
itself
for
people
to
refer
to
eabip
meeting
37
we
had
like
very
small
meeting
a
quick
one.
Unfortunately,
we
do
not
have
the
recording
for
it,
so
we'll
try
to
cover
the
bottom
part
in
the
next
meeting.
A
Next
sub
item
is
ech
engineering.
I
see
elita
if
you
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
talk
about
it.
D
Yes
sure
so,
actually
let
me
go
ahead
and
pull
up
what
I'm
working
on
this
month
see
my
issues.
D
In
any
case,
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
be
working
on
like
building
tests
for
the
iip
bot,
supporting
multiple
files,
adding
asset
management
to
the
bot,
investigating
and
fixing
a
bug
that
was
found.
And
then
there
were
a
couple
other
things
which
are
like
the
the
banner
for
the
eip
website
for
eaps,
and
then
also
there
was
one
other,
which
is
the
bot
for
marking.
D
Eips
is
stale,
and
so
I'm
curious
what
you
all
think
in
terms
of
the
priority,
because,
like
you
know,
I
could
put
off
the
bot
until
kind
of
the
the
two
major
projects
of
the
banner
and
the
and
the
the
stale
bot
are
finished.
But
yeah.
What
do
you
think.
A
So
about
the
banner,
I
think
someone
has
submitted
a
pull
request.
Four
days
ago,
I
have
a.
I
can
see
the
link
in
that
issue,
and
that
seems
to
be
a
good
one
and
it
has
already
gotten
approval
from
one
of
the
ap
editor.
We
are
hoping
micro
lifeline
will
then
have
a
look
at
it
and
that
might
be
approved,
so
we
can
drop
off
that
task,
and
these
steel
bow
bar
thing
that
is
still
there,
but
again
that
is
not
on
a
very
high
priority.
A
As
per
my
understanding,
it's
up
to
you.
How
do
you
want
to
like?
Take
it
up,
like
the
other
regular
ongoing,
because
I
believe
if
the
bot
is
not
calling
eip
editors,
that
would
take
precedence
over
the
stale,
eips.
D
Okay,
I
will
fix
that
then
and
then
continue
on
so
I'm
gonna.
So
the
current
plan
then
would
be
fix
the
bug
still
eip
bot
and
then
get
back
to
the
the
other
outstanding
bot
stuff.
Does
that
sound
good
to
you
sounds
good
to
me.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Of
course,
all
right,
it
looks
like
michael
mike
is
better
now
mike.
E
Yep,
sorry
about
that
some
technical
difficulties
yeah,
so
the
website
update.
So
what
I
first
want
to
do
is
address
and
go
over
what
had
happened
in
the
previous
weeks
in
terms
of
the
ech
website
outage
so
just
a
little
bit
of
background
on
vatica
the
company
itself.
E
E
E
So
in
terms
of
preventative
measures,
we
feel
much
more
comfortable
and
confident
that
this
should
be
mitigated
going
forward.
E
So
that's
what's
going
on
with
that
end
of
things
in
terms
of
actual
updates
to
the
website
the
outstanding
issues,
I
believe
there
were
seven
of
them
total
on
the
github
repository
have
all
been.
E
Puja
did
merge
that
in
and
that
has
been
deployed,
so
it
should
have
the
most
current
version
of
the
website
just
to
reinforce
the
workflow
again,
because
this
again
this
really
has
been
the
first
time
we've
we've
done
this
through
and
through
where
we've
supplied
changes,
you
guys
have
reviewed,
merge
them
and
then
we've
deployed
them.
E
So
if
there
are
anything
that
you
have
questions
on,
please
let
us
know
otherwise,
I
think
we've
pretty
much
got
it
down
now
in
terms
of
if
there
are
any
issues
going
forward.
Please
open
up
an
issue
we'll
review
that
make
the
applicable
changes,
supply
it
via
pull
request,
and
then
you,
let
us
know
when
it's
merged
and
we'll
deploy
that
to
the
live
web
server.
E
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
else
outside
of
that.
If
there's
any
questions,
I'm
open
to
answering
them,
otherwise
I
think
we're
all
set
on
our
end.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
so
very
much
for
the
update,
michael.
I
see
that
there
are
a
couple
of
new
categories
that
have
joined
recently.
I
am
finding
that
on
the
latest
videos.
So
it's
about
the
working
group,
the
stateless
ethereum
playlist.
That
may
be
something
new
that
we
have
recently
added
to
our
collection,
or
maybe
you
would
like
to
have
a
tab
for
that
and
other
than
that.
E
Very
good
yep
you
we
can
do
that.
We
can
either
do
that,
as
you
have
to.
Let
me
know
like
if
they're,
just
if
they're
members
or
contributors
and
then
as
long
as
the
information
is
supplied
via
the
issue,
then
we
will.
We
can
more
than
happily
update
the
website
to
reflect
those
additional
members.
E
Actually,
I
I
do
have
a
question
now
you
bring
it
up,
it's
not
something
that
we've
explicitly
discussed
as
a
group,
but
I'll
just
sort
of
give
it
to
the
group,
and
you
guys
can
discuss
either
here
or
on
discord,
but
the
monthly
fees
that
the
ech
group
is
paying
is
really
only
for
the
hosting
and
maintenance
of
the
website
itself.
A
Yeah
thank
you
for
that.
That
is
quite
interesting.
I
would
certainly
talk
to
other
members
today.
I
see
a
little
lower
attendance
but
I'll
bring
it
up
on
the
discord
channel
and
think
about
it.
That
is
something
that
we
are
looking
into.
I'm
not
sure
how
much
in
and
you
know,
pay
capacity,
but
definitely
we
are
looking
for
promotion
of
the
tasks
and
the
things
that
we
are
doing
right
now.
We
have
onboarded
one
resource
recently
on
on
that,
but
it
is
still
under
the
scope,
I'll.
B
Hey
puja,
I
had
one
question
regarding
the
website:
what's
the
key
target
like?
Is
it
maximum
outreach
and
like?
Is
it
the
the
kind
of
audience
that
we
want
to
reach
from
the
website.
A
So
this
website
at
present,
the
way
it
is
it
is
trying
to
provide
the
most
useful
information
around
the
development.
What
being
done
on
edm
one
and
ethereum
number
14.
other
than
that
any
improvement
proposals
that
is
being
considered
by
these
staffs.
What
are
the
plans
for
merge
or
any
future
updates
we're
trying
to
provide
the
links
to
the
resources
that
can
be
helpful
for
community
to
learn
and
understand
in
which
direction
and
developers
are
thinking
and
the
chain
would
be
going
to
okay?
So
it's
about
educating,
basically
educating
what
is.
B
A
On
eip
erc
editing,
I
think
there
is
one
meeting
planned
next
week.
In
the
last
meeting,
we
went
through
a
couple
of
proposals
with
the
senior
editor
matt
garnett,
the
new
eip
editor
in
training.
They
joined
us
and
we
went
through
the
key
points
of
how
to
do
editing.
A
A
A
All
right,
I'm
skipping
ech
pops
right
now.
I
don't
see
santosh
on
the
call
about
the
new
initiative,
stateless
meeting,
as
I
just
mentioned,
that
we
have
added
a
new
playlist
of
stateless
meeting
in
which
we
had
this.
In
the
past
two
weeks,
we
had
five
meetings
for
ase
and
all
these
recordings
are
available.
So
for
the
time
being,
this
is
under
like
very,
very
early
stage
of
research
developers
are
considering
it.
A
If
you
would
like
to
understand
the
idea,
the
recording
of
the
meeting
is
available
and
relevant
documents
are
also
available
in
the
description
section
of
the
youtube
about
the
community
partners
and
hackathons,
and
the
current
partnership
with
the
dev
for
you
at
odyssey,
is
going
on.
Anyone
interested
to
participate
in
the
hackathon
or
to
participate
in
the
workshop
being
organized
by
them
feel
free
to
reach
us
on
the
hackathon
channel
and
we'll
put
in
touch
with
the
right
people
to
participate
in
any
further
update.
A
William,
I
see
you
on
the
call
and
you
are,
you
have
been
working
for
the
london
update,
the
playlist,
that
we
are
that
we
are
considering
to
share
with
community
to
let
them
know
which
all
proposals
are
going
in.
Do
you
want
to
share
something
about
that.
C
Yeah,
so
I'm
making
four
videos:
I've
combined
the
eip1559,
and
I
think
the
other
one
that
exposes
the
base
feed
to
smart
contracts
as
an
op
code
that
into
one
I
think
I'll
should
be
able
to
get
it
by
tomorrow.
C
The
changes
that
you
asked
aren't
big
there's
also
the
nft
thing
that
you
mentioned
as
like
a
potential
way
for
us
to
to
do
something
interesting
around
that
and
to
reward
the
people.
William
schwab
is
working
with
an
artist
to
do
that,
and
james
hancock
came
up
with
the
idea
that
perhaps
we
can
also
use
it
to
fundraise,
but
we
got.
C
A
Sounds
good
william
schwab
mentioned
that
he
would
be
a
little
late
to
the
meeting,
but
we
may
be
expecting
him
by
the
end
of
the
meeting.
So
if
he
has
to
add
something
we'll
look
into
that,
I'm
really
happy
to
see
the
idea
of
nfc
getting
along
and
if
we
get
it
through,
that
would
be
really
nice
to
have
it
with
the
london
update.
If
not,
then
we
will
think
of
it
having
it
in
the
later
part
of
the
upgrade
like
the
march
or
if
shanghai
comes
before
that.
A
On
the
item
number
two
ech
blogs
and
survey,
we
have
published
three
blocks
in
the
past
two
weeks.
One
is
ethereum
london
update
community
call.
We
are
planning
a
community
called
on
the
second
of
october
at
1400
utc,
so
they
invite
to
the
community,
and
the
announcement
like
this
are
expensive
for
people
who
are
joining
us.
A
The
idea
here
is
to
bring
all
the
eip
authors,
whose
proposals
are
getting
into
the
upgrade
to
come
over
on
a
call
and
share,
like
a
very
brief
synopsis
of
what
the
proposal
is
all
about,
and
if
there
is
any
further
question
for
those
authors
to
understand
why
actually
we
are
getting
them
included
in
the
upgrade.
We
welcome
all
these
questions.
There
is
this
reddit
post
linked
in
the
announcement
blog
that
people
can
draw
their
question,
otherwise
they
can
also
drop
their
questions
on
the
ethereum
cathodeless
discord.
A
We
have
published
the
ethereum
cathodes
update.
That
includes
the
progress
around
all
working
group,
so
that
is
related
to
ethereum
protocol,
ethereum,
1.0,
2.0,
stateless
meetings,
eipip
meetings
and
all
other
meetings
you
can
find
on
the
latest
of
every
development
partner
in
the
gigan
cathodes
update.
There
is
the
supposed
cat
blazer
chronicle.
It
is
started
by
william
shaw.
Lately
in
this
post
he
tried
to
mention
the
work
that
is
a
new
initiative
of
ethereum
cathodes.
A
He
is
leading
the
task
and
has
reported
what
what
what
we
have
achieved
in
the
month
of
june
for
other
people
if
they
would
like
to
talk
about
their
task
and
if
they
are
doing
something
interesting
that
they
would
like
to
share
with
the
community,
I
would
be
happy
to
get
them
added
to
the
team
cater
reach
out
to
us.
A
A
Sir,
all
right,
moving
on
to
the
peep
and
eap
section,
we
have
recorded
a
very,
very
interesting
episode
on
a
brief
history
of
ethereum's
future
with
benjamin
ageington,
it's
about
ethereum
since
the
beginning
to
the
ethereum
2.0,
and
how
do
we
see
the
future
with
merge
and
merchant
ahead?
It's
an
interesting
conversation
with
benjamin
but
the
pre-history
part
and
how
we
are
actually
seeing
the
ethereum
2.0
coming
along.
A
It's
a
good
watch
and
the
recording
is
available
at
peep
and
eat.
Playlist
at
ethereum
cathode
is
youtube.
In
the
upcoming
weeks
we
have
planned
two
special
episodes
for
ethereum
anniversary
celebration.
A
One
is
the
preparation
of
the
march
with
mikhail
on
july
27.
Another
one
is
about
the
block
gas
limit
with
the
timeline
butane.
We
have
seen
a
lot
of
conversation
about
these
two
major
topics
and
we
thought
that
it's
important
for
people
to
actually
understand
what
is
going
behind
the
scene.
There
are
a
lot
of
questions,
a
lot
of
confusion
and
it's
the
opportunity
to
get
them
solved.
A
A
It
seems
like
I
am
talking
talking
talking
if
anyone
else
has
anything
to
add
on,
please
feel
free
to
jump
in.
You
should
watch
me
very
good
yeah.
I
just
don't
want
to
lose
everyone.
Thank
you
for
saying
that
yeah,
you
still
yeah.
So
the
next
item
is
discard
moderating
and
engagement.
As
we
mentioned
in
the
last
meeting
that
we
have,
we
are
trying
to
enforce
moderating
with
the
help
of
bots,
and
there
is
this
new
channel
verification.
A
We
have
announced
that
people
who
are
verified
will
be
able
to
see
the
rest
of
the
channels
and
if
people
are
not
verified
rest,
all
the
channels
will
be
not
accessible
for
them
after
first
of
august.
So
if
you
are
not
verified,
please
go
to
the
verification,
channel
click
on
the
pinned
message
and
respond
to
the
message:
that's
how
you
will
be
verified
human
and
then
you'll
be
having
the
continuous
access
of
the
child
right
now.
A
There
is
this
open
task.
We
are
continuously
posting
new
tasks,
open
task
with
bounty
without
bounty,
where
we
leave
where
we
need
any
kind
of
volunteers.
Please
give
it
a
look.
If
there's
something
of
your
interest
do
reach
out
to
us
in
the
off
topic
section
lately
I
have
been
adding
a
few
jobs
opening.
I
I
saw
a
few
people
reached
out
to
us
on
ecs
discord
looking
for
any
opening
for
work,
so
we
are
continuously
adding
the
working
opportunity
that
is
available
with
the
ethereum
ecosystem
in
the
off
topic
channel.
A
About
the
ech
funding
yeah,
I
have
some
good
news.
We
have
already
received
the
first
range
of
esp
and
I
have
made
all
the
conversion.
Let
me
pull
out
the
issue.
I
think
it
is
closed.
It's
in
the
funding
section,
whatever
transaction
we
did,
we
have
converted
into
die
and
usdb
details
are
already
mentioned
in
the
link.
It's
in
the
closed
issue
section.
A
Other
than
that
there
is
this
good
news
with
molok
our
grant
has
been
approved.
A
I
will
be
in
touch
with
those
people
to
get
it
converted
to
like
currently
it's
in
the
wrapped
edge,
and
then
it
has
to
be
moved
to
the
multistate.
There
is
some
new
process
going
on
it's
going
to
be
time
taking,
but
I
am
hopeful
that
we
will
be
receiving
fun
by
the
end
of
july
for
sure
there's
another
grant
that
we
tried,
that
is
from
clr
dot
fund,
it's
quadratic
funding
and
close
to
500
usd
we
have
raised
from
their
round
seven.
A
I
have
a
meeting
with
one
of
the
team
members
today
and
I'll
try
to
understand.
How
does
this
work?
Sorry,
I
made
a
mistake:
it's
not
close
to
500
usd
close
to
500
x
stars,
so
I
need
to
understand
how
that
needs
to
be
converted
into
dye
or
ufc
and
brought
back
to
our
multithing
I'll.
Keep
everyone
posted
on
that.
F
I
mean
I
only
caught
the
tail
end
of
that,
but
I
would
throw
in
to
throw
it
also
that
I
think
something
that
we've
discovered
with
bitcoin-
and
I
think
is
probably
also
true
with
clr
fund-
is
a
lot
of.
It-
is
about
just
kind
of
the
optics
tweeting
out
about
it
beforehand,
putting
out
some
good
content
beforehand
and
raising
awareness
about
the
fact
that
it
exists,
especially
with
clr
fund
and
the
fact
that
we
have
a
grant
there,
that
people
can
go
to.
F
A
The
last
bitcoin
round
has
been
like
a
very
good
example
for
us
and
we,
when
time
will
try
to
keep
ourselves
updated
with
the
future
grants.
That's
coming
up.
A
F
Yeah
sure
this
month
actually
started
off
a
little
bit
slowly.
One
of
the
things
that
I
have
been
doing
is
I,
towards
the
beginning
of
the
month,
light
client
did
a
bit
of
an
eip
editor
helper
thing
like
walkthrough
thing.
That
is
probably
going
to
be
semi-recurring,
like
maybe
once
every
three
weeks,
which
was
a
big
help
in
getting
into
just
kind
of
looking
at
eips.
F
I
spoke
with
someone
from
status
about
trying
to
basically
make
sessions
between
wallet
providers,
middleware
that
sits
in
between
apps
and
wallets
and
dapps
that
need
to
integrate
wallops
wallets
in
order
to
just
basically
try
and
discover
major
errors
and
also
give
people
the
kind
of
support
they
need,
both
in
terms
of
creating
good
issues
and
streamlining
interfaces
between
different
wallets,
different
middlewares
and
all
of
that,
and
between
apps
that
need
support,
getting
different
wallets
to
work
with
them.
F
We've
started
some
very,
very
rudimentary
coordination
work
trying
to
see
who
we're
able
to
bring
in
there.
So
I
haven't
made
a
lot
of
progress
with
that.
Yet
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
trying
to
do
some
of
that
later,
I've
had
a
couple
of
like
independent
coordination,
things
that
right
now
I'd
say,
are
like
to
really
really
talk
about
that
that
I've
been
working
on
recently
also-
and
that's
been
the
bulk
of
what
I've
been
doing
this
month
so
far.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
update
william.
So
there
was
this
one.
Other
thing
william
john,
was
mentioning
it
earlier
before
you
joined
the
meeting
about
the
nfp
that
we
are
talking
or
considering
for
the
london
upgrade.
Is
there
anything
you
would
like
to
talk
about.
F
I
forgot
about
that
thanks
for
bringing
that
up,
I
have
found
artists
and
am
speaking
with
them.
I
did
recruit
eternal
life
from
my
workplace.
F
If
there
are
more
specifics
that
I'm
supposed
to
know,
then
we
should
coordinate
on
that
just
to
like
try
and
push
that
forward,
but
I
do
have
a
couple
of
artists
who
are
interested
and
think
that
they
can
probably
get
something
out
and
around
a
week
so
in
terms
just
like
I'd
like
to
basically
kind
of
nail
down
exactly
what
we're
asking
them
to
make
and
various
like.
F
You
know,
any
kind
of
requests
for
the
actual
specific
art,
but
otherwise
I
do
think
that
connection
is
made,
and
I
can
bridge
between
between
you
guys
or
just
be
a
part
of
the
conversation
myself
whatever's
most
useful.
A
Yeah,
I
think
william
jones
has
been
looking
into
it
mostly,
and
I'm
talking
to
him
with
that.
So
I
mean
I'm
fine
if
to
be
included
in
the
conversation
with
you,
the
artist
and
the
chains
or
whatever.
So
maybe
we
can
talk
offline
about
it
and
try
to
get
insane
and
get
it
done.
C
F
So
let's
talk
about
it
outside
then
like
some
of
that
might
depend
how
it
like
how
it's
going
to
who
it's
going
to
kind
of
thing.
So
let's
talk
about
this
more
often.
A
Okay,
so
we
are
getting
closer
today
and
of
the
agenda.
Next
is
discuss
and
close
the
ech
github
issues.
I
see
quite
a
lot
issues
here,
but
I
think
all
of
them
have
been
addressed
boundary
for
this
and
this
they
have
already
done
it.
We
just
need
to
finish
up
with
the
payments
of
the
bounty
warning
level.
Someone
is
already
working
on
it,
and
that
also
seems
to
be
in
like
the
final
stages
once
that
is
merged.
A
A
Moving
on
to
the
meeting
note
aside,
I
don't
see
any
major
decision
or
action
items
just
that
going
forward.
Different
ech
working
group
will
share
reports
and
every
meeting
that
is
nice
to
have,
and
I
would
like
community
to
know
about
what
we
are
doing
here.
We
always
try
to
share
it
with
the
help
of
newsletters,
but
this
recording
would
be
helpful
too
other
than
that.
I'm
thinking
of
collaborating
this
meeting
to
get
more
and
more
ideas
and
more
like
we
know
what
we
are
doing
right
now
and
we
are
continuously
talking
about
it.
D
Yeah,
are
you
saying
that
we
can
like
just?
Is
it
like
free
talk
right
now,
or
are
you
saying
that
we
should
the
next
meeting.
A
D
Sure
so
I
see
that
ethereum
characters
in
general
has
been
kind
of
expanding
its
scope
recently.
D
I
think
that
the
recent
confirmation
of
funding,
along
with
just
like
kind
of
our
initiatives,
growing
and
I'm
wondering
kind
of
from
your
perspective,
puja
because
you've
I
mean
you
know
you
kind
of
you're
kind
of
the
whole
organization,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if,
like
you
know,
first
off,
you
would
like
some
help
with
that
and
then
also
like
if
we
have
a
plan
for
sort
of
scaling,
the
the
business
process,
so
that
way
like
you
know,
it
doesn't
require
that
you
always
be
present
or
something
along
those
lines.
D
A
D
D
So
you
know,
I
think,
a
good
example
of
that
is
like
leading
people
in
these
meetings.
They're
all
kind
of
like
dependent
on
you
puja,
as
I
understand
it
right
now,
and
so
I'm
kind
of
like
the
game.
Is
it
time
for
us
to
begin
thinking
about
like
standardizing
those
processes
or
those
tasks
and
then
like
hiring
people
either
as
contractors
or
as
I
don't
know
how
much
funding
we
have
actually.
D
But
if
we
have
enough
than
like
full-time
people,
to
kind
of
you
know
create
more
of
a
scalable
like
approach
to
the
problem
of
project
management
and
ethereum.
F
Actually,
if
you
don't
mind,
maybe
I'll
field
this
one,
I
don't
think
we
have
enough
to
bring
in
full-time
members
right
now.
On
the
other
hand,
also
just
to
maybe
talk
around
that
if
I'd
have
to
summarize
what
you're
asking
for
so
correct
me.
F
If
I'm
wrong
about
this,
it
sounds
like
what
you're
asking
for
is
bringing
in
additional
people
for
internal
ops,
as
if
there's
a
lot
of
internal
work
that
gets
done,
it
would
be
good
to
decentralize
it
speaking
as
someone
who
I'm
not
so
involved
in
internal
ops,
but
I
do
at
least
have
eyes
on
it
to
some
degree.
I
can
safely
say
that
puja
is
doing
more
than
one
human
being's
work,
so
it's
also
about
making
that
a
more
sustainable
task
set
like
are
you
you're
talking
about
something
in
that
direction?.
D
Exactly
yeah,
it's
kind
of
like,
if
you
know
if
we
want
to
continue
expanding
the
scope
which,
which
is
very
exciting
sort
of
how
do
we
do
that
consistency
consistently
such
that
it's
not
burning
out
puja
and
that
you
know
all
of
us
are
kind
of
expendable
to
an
extent.
F
I
so
here's
here's
my
two
talk,
my
like
my
two
cents
on
it.
The
puja
I'm
actually
very
interested
in
what
yours
are,
especially
because
the
question
was
kind
of
directed
at
you
and
I'm
just
kind
of
hijacking
it.
I
think
that
the
processes
are
a
little
bit
more
decentralized
than
people
realize
they
are,
even
though
cucho
is
doing
a
large
number
of
them.
F
Many
of
them
are
documented
and
the
tools
for
a
lot
of
them
are
not
solely
in
her
hands,
so
that
does
make
space
for
additional
people
to
be
sort
of
onboarded
into
those
processes
and
also
makes
it
likely
that
if,
for
whatever
reason
like
there
urgently
need
to
be
people
on
tasks,
there
usually
are
ways
that
that
can
be
accomplished.
F
I
don't
I
like
this
is
a
conversation
that
I
think
we
should
have
at
length,
maybe
in
the
discord
or
maybe
even
assemble
a
separate
meeting
for
just
because
it's
always
good
to
have
conversations
around
these
topics
and
get
as
many
things
out
in
the
open
as
possible.
I
don't
think
we're
at
a
point
where
we
could
put
in
more
internal
ops
paid
positions.
F
I
do
suspect
that
if
we
are
able
to
grow
our
budget
more
that
what
we
will
see
is
kind
of
a
balance
between
internal
and
external
ops,
just
to
keep
things
kind
of
as
streamlined
as
possible.
If
anyone
is
interested
in
volunteering
for
internal
ops-
incidentally,
I
think
they're
I
mean.
Naturally,
the
nature
of
internal
ops
is
like,
if
you're
someone
who
you've
never
heard
of
before
and
don't
really
have
a
network
connection
with
we'll
probably
want
you
to
prove
you're
worth
for
a
while.
F
First,
I
don't
think
that
we're
like
immediately
gonna,
say
put
you
on
the
multisig
or
anything
like
that.
But,
of
course,
anyone
out
there
who
hears
this.
F
We
are
very
interested
in
any
volunteers
who
would
be
able
to
help
with
internal
ops,
we're
also
interested
in
volunteers
who
can
help
with
external
options,
not
only,
I
suspect
that,
as
time
goes
on,
if
we
are
able
to
grow
the
budget-
and
it
looks
like
we
are
discovering
more
ways
that
we
might
be
able
to
do
that
in
terms
of
leveraging
bitcoin
better
and
other
grants
that
we
can
look
at
that.
That
would
be
on
the
agenda.
D
Of
the
funding
part
of
it,
I
think,
is
kind
of,
like
you
know,
depending
on
how
much
we
need.
I
don't
think
that
it's
necessarily
out
of
the
question
to
raise
that
fundraising
question.
Who
are
you
know
to
to
malik
or
our
other?
You
know,
grant
fundraisers
or
even
the
ethereum
foundation,
and
it's
kind
of
like
you
know,
but
I
think
it
ultimately
comes
down
to
what's
your
pitch,
and
so
I'm
kind
of
trying
to
suggest
that
maybe
like
the
next
step
would
be,
maybe
don't
hire
on
full-time.
D
But
we
kind
of
demonstrate
that
we
are
able
to
scale
with
more
funding
to
kind
of
encourage
an
increased
influx.
If
that
makes
sense,
if,
if
that's
the
route,
that
we
want
to
go
in
general,
which
I
don't
actually
know
but.
C
Maybe
we
can
take
on
an
like
a
paid
intern
or
an
unpaid
intern.
I
know
you
can
get
quite
a
lot
of
interest
from
that
and
you
can
also
get
someone
who's
who's
going
to
be
there
for
like
quite
a
bit
of
time
right,
because
you
can
specify
how
long
the
internship
is
going
to
be.
C
I
know
there's
quite
a
bit
of
interest
in
internships
in
the
ethereum
ecosystem.
I
know
the
whodunit
the
index
coupe
internship
that
had
a
huge
amount
of
response,
so
I
think
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
demand
for
internships
and
that's
maybe
something
that
we
can
open
up.
That's
a
really
interesting
idea.
D
Very
good
point,
but
I
do
want
to
like
point
out
that
I
think
the
first
step
would
be
kind
of
like
just
simply,
you
know
clearly
defining
the
rules
that
you
would
want
to
fill.
What
the
responsibilities
of
those
roles
are
kind
of.
D
You
know
what
the
end-to-end
process
is
and
sort
of
where
we
all
fit
in
it
and
where
you
know
like,
if
we
want
to
say
hey,
we
want
to
hire
somebody
full
time
that
we're
going
to
pay
x
amount
of
money
about
based
on,
like
you
know,
the
averages
in
given
amounts
or
whatever,
like
kind
of
having
an
idea
for
we.
D
We
want
to
hire
this
person,
or
you
know
for
this
role
with
this
responsibility
doing
this,
and
this
is
the
job
that
they
will
do,
and
this
is
how
it's
going
to
help
us
scale
so
kind
of
just
like
having
a
plan.
That's
like
really
well
thought
out
and
discussed
internally
or
externally
in
terms
of
like
what
those
roles
would
mean,
I
think,
is
a
good
kind
of
first
step
to
expanding
and
scaling,
assuming
that
again
as
being
what
we
want.
A
A
We
are
getting
small
chance
of
tasks
that
we
are
trying
to
get
done
with
the
help
of
bounty
that
we
open
it
as
like
open
tasks,
and
maybe
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
get
more
and
more
chats
from
the
projects
or
protocols
to
you
know,
offload
them
and
get
it
like
completed,
and
for
doing
that
we
may
be
using
the
route
of
bounty.
I
like
the
idea
of
having
internship
very
much.
A
I
know
william
itself
is
himself
as
a
intern
for
nether
mind,
which
is
really
good,
is
trying
to
learn
as
well
as
contribute
to
the
ethereum
ecosystem,
which
is
great.
That
concept
can
be
introduced
here
in
the
italian
cat
hurdles.
So
I'm
already
talking
to
a
couple
of
colleges
trying
to
reach
out
to
their
representatives,
who
are
doing
some
research
and
blockchain
and
people.
A
If
they
are
interested,
we
can
have
them
here,
attract
them
to
the
ethereum
discard
and
then,
if
there
is
any
chance
that
not
only
the
characters
but
any
other
project
or
people
would
want
to
take
help
for
they
can
post
it
here,
and
you
know
that's
how
we
can
start
engaging
community
shiba.
I
see
your
hand
raise.
B
Yeah,
I
think,
in
line
with
what
he
just
said
happy
to
add
to
like
more
colleges,
more
universities
who
can
you
know,
come
and
actively
contribute
here.
So
I
am
on
the
educational
board
for
a
lot
of
universities
in
singapore
and
india
so
happy
to
make
the
introductions
as
well
as
automate
any
repetitive
manual
work.
That's
there
because
everybody
loves
to
contribute,
especially
to
open
source.
So
I
can
enable
that
if
we
identify
repetitive
work,
I
feel
is
meeting
notes
like
a
manual
work
that
you're
doing
right
now
or
is
it?
B
Are
we
using
some
tool,
it's
manual
mostly
manual
right,
so
I
think
we
can
start
like
one
identifying.
The
manual
works
that
we
have
and
yeah
like.
I
think
I
can
definitely
get
the
interns
are
not
interns,
but
I
think
volunteers
to
just
actively
help
us
automate
these
works.
That's
that's
what
I
wanted
to
add
as
well.
A
That's
so
nice
of
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
I
would
love
to
have
that
introduction.
I
have
been
knowing
that
you
are
with
associated
with
some
of
the
universities
and
colleges
that
is
going
to
be
really
helpful.
We
have
a
a
collaboration
with
team
which
is
there
for
organizing
hackathon
in
india.
So
if
we
are
getting
in
more
touch
of
colleges,
universities,
I
believe
that
we
are
going
to
engage
more
and
more
community
people
here.
F
Maybe
just
to
take
the
conversation
back
one
step
also,
though,
I
think
it
is
a
really
really
great
idea
to
open
up
conversations
about
directions
for
expansion,
what
roles
people
think
we
need
to
have
or
should
have,
and
what
directions
people
would
like
to
to
see
the
cat
herders
grow
in
for
people
who
are
in
the
call
right
now
like
elita
or
william,
I
would
suggest
why
don't
we
use
the
discord
right
now
to
kind
of
kick
off
my
conversation
about
this.
F
If
it
gets
enough
traction
I'd
actually
be
interested
in
opening
like
a
different
meeting
kind
of
ad
hoc
about
cat
herders
expansion
like
what
what
the
challenges
are,
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
how
we
might
be
able
to
do
it.
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
conversation
to
have,
and
I
am
really
interested
in
seeing
what
just
like
what
what
people
have
thought
of
and
elita.
I
think
your
point
about
clearly
defining
roles
is
very,
very
well
taken.
A
Right
and
I'm
just
starting
here,
william
shawn,
he
has
been
talking
to
me
about
this
and
I
very
much
like
the
idea
that
we
receive
this
people
ongoing
form.
There
are
alarming
people
who
are
interested
in
contributing,
but
they
do
not
know
where
to
go.
Although
we
have
this
website
where
we
try
to
provide
the
information
where
we
are
currently
engaged
with,
but
not
the
new
year
new
area
that
we
possibly
could
engage
ourselves,
so
we
may
be
having
this
idea
of
this
ad
hoc
meeting
that
you
just
mentioned,
william.
D
A
good
idea
are
we
able
to
also
potentially
get
on
people
on
our
fundraising
board,
like
people
who
are
actually
part
of
like
malik
or,
like
tim
baiko?
D
I
don't
know
he's
part
of
malik,
but
because
I
remember
tim
mentioned
he
expressed
a
little
bit
ago
like
about
what
he
would
like
to
see
from
the
cat
herders
with
respect
to
like,
I
think
it
was
with
respect
to
scalability,
and
so,
if
that's
kind
of
the
you
know
the
the
central
point
of
that
meeting,
then
having
you
know
our
stakeholders,
both
you
know
on
the
top
end
funders,
as
well
as
doing
the
work.
That
sounds
a
fantastic
idea.
A
On
the
fundraising
side,
I'm
just
sharing
my
experience
so
far.
I
think
this
is
how
it
has
worked
for
me,
and
this
is
how
I
am
assuming
that
it
would
be
working
here-
is
that
that
the
funds
are
provided
to
the
group
and
people
who
are
continuously
contributing
so
for
ethereum
cathodes.
If
we
come
up
with
some
something
new,
it
may
not
be
funded
from
the
day
one,
but
if
that
is
something
that
is
getting
traction,
I'm
sure
there
would
be
more
community
who
would
like
to
support
us.
A
D
No
worries
at
all
yeah,
I'm
excited
too.
I
think
I
mean
I
at
least
have
a
lot
of
have
a
lot
of
ideas,
for
you
know
the
kind
of
the
the
scope
and
the
impact
of
the
characters
and
what
we're
capable
of,
especially
with
puja's
leadership,
and
so
you
know
forgive
me
for
pushing
that.
But
I
I
do
think
that
if
we
kind
of
take
a
corporate,
we're,
not
corporate
but
like
take
a
approach
to
scale
that
we
have
the
we
have
the
ability
and
the
problem
to
solve.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
I
mean.
Obviously
we
we
are
a
group
of
decentralized
people,
more
people,
we
have
more
brains,
we
have
and
we
have
more
opportunities
to
contribute
to
and
we
can
explore
different
ways
to
do
that.
I'm
happy
to
hear
all
these
conversation
and
yes,
we
can
continue
discussing
this
in
the
discard
channel
and
if
we
get
more
traction,
we'll
try
to
have
a
separate
call
other
than
this
within
catalyst
bi-weekly
meeting
we
can
have
an
intermediate
call
and
discuss
more
about
it.
A
A
It
was
nice
talking
to
everyone.
Today
I
mean
we
had
like
quite
a
good
conversation.
We
are
trying
to
provide
the
updates
as
well
as
explore
new
areas
to
let
people
know,
let
community
know
what
we
are
doing
and
what
we
can
do.
So.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
today
see
you
all
in
two
weeks
have
a
good
one.
Everyone
thanks.