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A

Welcome to ethereum catalyst meeting seven day six. Thank you, everyone for joining us today. I see good attendance as well as some new faces. So before we get into the agenda, um I would like to invite eric, who is here for the first time, to introduce and share his thought with us.

B

Hey everyone thanks uh thanks for running this meeting pooja and everyone for starting this awesome community, I uh so background of myself. I'm based in cambridge massachusetts born in new york uh have been following ethereum for a while, but didn't really dive until I'd say you know. Last summer uh I used to work at a you know.

B

In tradify I was in investment banking, and I worked at a pretty large uh public equities fund where I studied and researched fintech payments software gaming sas so pretty hard to avoid the topic of crypto decided to leave my job and do this full time, and so now I'm starting a hedge fund with a partner of mine and where I'd say we you know, operate pretty much like a traditional hedge fund. Do a lot of research.

B

um I will say the thing that we do my partner and I feel very strongly about is supporting the ecosystems that we invest in, and so I I spend almost all my time in ethereum um and so we're forming the fund now and we're making a pledge in our documents and very publicly to reinvest a lot of the fees that we generate back into funding, open source software and public goods, and so I'm quite active in get coin and initiatives like that, and you know funding protocol development, something I'm very passionate about it's.

B

It's shocking how little funding goes into protocol development, given how important it is to kind of the success of everyone, um and so I'm I'm very much a believer and kind of aligned with the mission of the broader ethereum ecosystem, so glad to be here.

A

Well, thank you so much happy to have you on the discard, as well as in this meeting. We hope to see you around with the other communications going on and, of course, the support that protocol team may require in future.

A

Welcome again, thank you.

A

Moving on to the agenda items, I just have shared the agenda in chat for people uh to refer to, and the first item listed here is a network upgrade so as we all know that we are expecting one big upgrade this year, that is the merge and currently kensuki the first public test net is live, some updates from kentucky side, uh kenzuki encountered a fuzzy bug an issue because of that it stopped finalizing for for some time, uh but the good news is that the issue has been resolved and it started finalizing again uh since last thursday.

A

I suppose- and um there are a couple of announcement from the developers team- uh we could be expecting some spec changes in kensuki um aspects very soon and also there would be a new test net- it's not clear, yet it will be called as kenzuki or would be uh with some other name, but we can expect this new chestnut, sometimes this week.

A

So that's on the merge.

A

The next item listed here is a ech website updating, um so it looks like uh since the last upgrade. The website could use us some updating and yeah. If anyone finds any resources that you think could be useful to community related to anything like eips upgrades or any other research topic that you think that community can make use of, please feel free to um create an issue in the ech website. Github or you can even let us know on the website update channel that is there.

A

On the ech discord, we have a team which can pick it up and maybe add the resource. The next item is ech engineering. So I have a small announcement here. We are growing our engineering team, and this week we have onboarded three new contributors. um Two of them are the um on the development side.

A

We will be talking about more about these projects in the later part of this meeting, but just for an introduction we have george and stefan joining the team, as we already know that uh shashank yalamanchi he he joined the engineering team recently. So now we will have three here in addition to alita who is already supporting the engineering team, so welcome on board. Stefan and george.

C

Thank you thanks pleasure.

A

Thank you for joining and we'll be talking about the project in the later part of the meeting.

A

uh The next one is catalyzers. Cat blazers has some great announcements, and I see william sharp in the call so over to you, william.

D

Let's see where saying hello hope my mic actually um so yeah the news referred to us that launched a th podcast. The first episode with andre cronier about smart contracts was released last thursday, uh we're targeting a cadence of releasing probably every two weeks. We've got another two recorded episodes right now, though, so there's a decent chance that we'll release one a week for the next couple of weeks.

D

um We have recordings from uh thomas, uh I think stanzak, actually, I'm not sure I'm pronouncing his last name right, but in any event the founder and head of nethermind and then also with samsung, um the famous white hat, uh so we're hoping that we can release episodes for those two this week and next week, um yeah it seems to be getting pretty well received right now, it's on spotify I've been having a lot of issues personally, just trying to work out.

D

Google podcast google podcasts, where I do think it is live and apple podcasts, which I can't get to work at all, um but I am hoping to add more platforms as time goes by. um If anyone is interested in just helping out on the technical end of things um like maybe thumbnail, design for episodes or just kind of helping with like the processing after we have a recording or something like that, I could definitely use the hand um yeah other than that.

D

um We've got some interesting stuff coming up like in terms of like general cat place or work. We've got some interesting stuff coming up with the eip awareness initiative that we've been a part of um there should be some platforms getting back to us this month about eips they're interested in working on um we're.

D

Looking also, we've done some initial work on maybe trying to start an initiative centered around emergency protocols, just getting good documentation out there for platforms to know how to prepare before an incident, and I mean, of course we all hope that there never is one, but also what to do in the unfortunate event that there is one um I'm being helped on those two by supreme gupta um and both seem to be going pretty well, um also just the usual kind of onboarding stuff. Like you know, people reaching out wanting some help, asking some questions.

D

Things like that kernel block five I believe, starts next month. I might be mistaken all the times. That'll probably keep me pretty busy on the onboarding front. Also.

A

Awesome you have covered pretty much everything that is going on in the ecosystem. It's not just cat adders, but yeah. A lot is going on. Thank you so much for all the contributions here and uh yeah. We could definitely uh use some help on podcast side. uh I'm sorry for the delay for the third recording I'm trying to process it we'll try to finish it today and share it with you, but we'll follow the cadence that you just have shared with the community.

A

Moving on um next is ech operations. So yeah we have another announcement here, some good news. We are trying to onward more people, and uh this week we have on boarded uh shivangi. um She is joining the ech arts team with the some of the tasks. I would uh her to speak for it, but we could expect couple of more contributors joining the team very soon so yeah.

E

Hello, everyone and thank you for um welcoming me to the group, um so I'm working on a coup, a few things so I will be. uh I will have a new community members uh meet up um on january. 27 11 a.m, est and we have around. uh We have 12 people who have joined the group uh since december uh december and january so far, and uh I will be sending everybody information uh about the onboarding process and uh I hope that the new uh people have signed up. The boarding form can come to the meetup.

E

So even though I'm not based in the u.s time zone, I've chosen the esd time zone because uh I would like to invite other members of ech to join the group and maybe talk about their experience uh in the cat. Furthers group and I think the new members may be interested in asking some questions about how they can contribute. So I think that uh it would be a great way to introduce them to the community.

E

So I would like to invite, if you're interested in joining that meeting, please let me know- and I hope to have an agenda for the meeting by end of this week and I will also be I've asked santosh who's, also part of the new ops team to add it to the event calendar so that other people who join the group can also see the event pinned to the discord uh event channel.

E

And uh yes, so, please reach out to me if you are interested in the meeting and would like to join and I'm also working on uh uh write writing a blog post about new contributors. So this month I will be writing about uh santosh and uh next month and, I hope to add a new blog post on people interested upcoming people interested in joining the group, and I hope you all look forward to it uh and I think ken will be working on uh events related to international women's day.

E

So I hope to help uh contribute for towards that event as well and yeah. That's what I have so far. I will also be uh writing a small uh blog, um some information that puja can use regarding ech's anniversary. So I hope to give her some information about that by tomorrow.

E

Yep. That's all thank you.

D

Did you mention what time uh what time it would be at like what time.

E

You said you were using est.

D

Yeah, I just I think I missed that.

E

uh 11 a.m: est.

D

On on what day,.

E

January 27th.

D

January 27th, thursday, okay cool, I I think I should be able to make that person that would be interested in attending.

E

Oh, thank you. That would be great.

A

I'll create an event for that on the characters, her discord, so that other people know about it and we hope to have good participation anyway. She mentioned that she would be sending out invite to all the new people who have just recently submitted their form for ech onboarding that so we are covering the new people, but people who are already on the ecg squad.

A

Please check out the event section of the discord you will get to know about upcoming meetings. There.

A

That's a lot, thank you so much for all these information. Moving on to the eib's insight, so um we have.

A

We have quite a lot going on the eip side as well. We have received four new proposals as draft the number are four five, two one, four, six, two, six, four, five, four, six, four, three, four one: all these are erc's. There are some movement and uh the draft proposals to the review as well like the proposal. 4626, which is tokenized world standard, has already been moved to review status, looks like the proposal is moving pretty fast and um it is available for review so people who are interested in this proposal.

A

It's an erc, so projects which may implement these proposals may join here to share their feedback on the proposal. Similarly, we have two proposals in the um last call. Actually three proposal in the last call with deadline january 25 and january 24th. So it's uh it's very close. It's it's highly anticipated that if they do not receive any major changes, they may get into finals. So if you have something to share about these proposals, please share on the fellowship of ethereum magician threads for these respective proposals.

A

um These proposals are eip3448 metaproxy, standard, eip3607, reject transaction from senders with deployed code, and the last one is eap3668. Ccip read for this proposal, uh 3668 ccip read. We have recently recorded an episode on p pen where the author nick johnson, he explained the proposal provided a small demo for the dap developers to follow, and um he is taking questions on uh like how to implement this proposal on projects. So if you think that this can be useful for your project, please reach out to nick johnson or respond to the fellowship ethereum magician thread.

A

There are a couple of more proposals which are stagnant status and some changes to eip1. All these information are available on eip insight. For the month of january, the link is available on the agenda.

A

So that's about uh eap inside the next one is uh p penny for the p penney. As I mentioned, that we had recorded an episode with nick johnson last week and that is live for the upcoming weeks tomorrow. We have scheduled a recording for eip 1967 standard proxy storage slot um with hadrian.

A

um That is another interesting proposal. I suppose there is a pull request up to move into the last call, so this is also in the almost ready status would be interesting to learn about this proposal, and people can follow for upcoming eips discussion on the calendar that is shared in the agenda on the meeting notes. Unfortunately, we do not have notes for acd 129 or consensus 79 so far, because because of uh you know the resource say he got sick covet. Is there so sorry about the delay?

A

But we hope to have both of the meeting notes available this week. There was some confusion and we have some new people on board, so we're trying to sort this out, but we do have the notes available for eipip meeting 47. That was another very interesting meetings. We came up with some good issues and there were some solutions to the the issues that is being faced by the eip editors or the community there on the ap github. So people interested may refer to the notes, any question or comment on any of the topics so far.

A

All right, I think there are more interesting stuff coming up. So let's keep moving on events and hackathon. We already have shared information about each denver and shilling points. We have some uh new updates on deaf connects deaf connect. We are expecting a meeting uh this week. I think on it's on 20th or somewhere close to get into the details of that.

A

However, the document provides some of the expected speaker for the event I'm going to share the link here and uh what are the plans for day one and day two, it's already listed here, but we will get more information in the upcoming meet I'll hope to update it.

A

Moving on to the item number four, which is new task and brainstorming, the first one listed here is ech medium to mirror. I I remember seeing some progress going on. um Do you have any updates to share william shaw.

D

Sorry updates on what.

A

uh The mirror migration.

D

Okay, um I had moved a little bit on that, but I'm gonna- I I had forgotten about it, so I the accounts kind of dropped off with it um so I'll get back to trying to make that happen.

D

No, there was something with it. um I'll be I'll need to be in touch with you now I'll need to look it up. I remember trent wanted a few details from me and I think I just totally forgot about it. To be perfectly blunt,.

D

Cool yeah yeah yeah, okay. So if you, um I guess we'll both try and remember, there's a couple of things I'll need to thank you for so once we have that we should be able to get it set up, though.

A

Awesome I remembered uh you mentioned that there was something going on, so I was just a little curious, no problem making it get in touch after the meeting and we'll try to get answers to trent.

D

Awesome thanks.

A

Yeah, the next one is the ech anniversary, blog and video, so we are planning to release some information in form of a video and a blog I'll, be working with chibangi and ken on that, and this year we would be entering into three years like it will be a completion of three years of ethereum catalyst. So we'll be sharing some information with the community and we hope that it is useful and more people can join the ethereum catalyst community.

C

Is there a specific date you'd set it on or is just sometime about three years ago.

A

um So I'm referring to the first blog that was published on ethereum cad herders medium as the announcement or formation of that group, because I am assuming the group was somewhere group was decided somewhere in prague conference and I wasn't there. But I'm just assuming the day when uh the public announcement went out as the milestone day.

D

Sounds alternatively january 1st 2019., as in the the question went out in prague um like that's when lane reddick said that they were looking for coordinators and things like that um that was late october 2018, then, over the next couple of months they kind of interviewed people who expressed an interest. um I believe I don't know that we did anything specific on january 1st, but I remember, as 2018 was trying to close, like the idea is that we'd kick off at the beginning of 2019.?

D

I can like put on my my og hat and like get in the rocking chair and talk about the good old days now yeah, it's good to hear that history. Thanks for that.

A

Yeah and we are hoping to someday interview william to get all these old stories that you and I have not had yeah.

C

A

Yeah right so in the uh you know, in the absence of all these details and information, what we have as a concrete on the day of uh the medium blog post when it was announced, we are assuming that as the foundation day for the ethereum cathodes, and we would be celebrating that- so that's I think, is 21st of january.

A

So um when, when lane reddick first published this blog announcing the formation of the group of ethereum cathodes, so we are taking that as a landmark and we will be sharing all these relevant information, the blog and the video on that date, all right yeah. I just read a comment from william schwab: yeah, it's interesting. We should be getting all these things.

A

Okay, next is a learn to earn. So we have made quite some progress on this proposal that was shared in the last meeting, learn to earn, and uh earlier in the meeting I mentioned about onboarding of couple of photographs, so um I would like to you know invite one of them to maybe talk about it, learn to unprogram. I mean we already have shared the information about learn to earn program and if you can click on the link that is added to the agenda, you can get some information of what what has been going on.

A

We had two meetings in the past and there are some progress, so maybe george or shishank. If any of you have to share more on that.

A

I'm sorry, we can't hear you properly shashanka, but um uh I'm just sharing uh a small. uh You know introduction yeah. Stefan stefan is also working with the team. He would be actually uh coordinating and documenting what's going on. So stefan, if you would like to summarize.

C

Yeah sure um yeah, what we're doing is we're building a platform um where you can, uh where community members can watch videos and learn stuff and then afterwards like take a quiz to earn po apps or mint and nft.

C

By answering these questions after watching of after watching an eddie cash, educational, video, sorry and um what we're doing now, as pooja already mentioned, I I will do the documenting side and I got together some sample questions based on peep and eip 41, which was about eip 3675 and george and shashank will be engaged in the development tasks. So what we're doing is a dry run first and then get it operative in about two months.

C

We'll do a proposal as well, so you can all see what we're doing and and puja will facilitate the logistics and github coordination. So we'll have something ready in in foreseeable future and and then you can all test it and have a look at it.

A

And all these things will be, you know added to the github, I'm just wondering what do we think is like? Should we make use of the website github or should we make use of pm github, um but definitely we will figure out which one to go ahead with, but all the contributions would be added there. So if people they come up, uh some other ideas, suggestions and they they would like to contribute to the project. It should be very convenient for them to do that.

A

So uh that's about learn to earn and we hope to see this coming into real life very soon and uh we it should be helpful for new new developers, new students who would like to get interested into the ethereum or blockchain in general. I am hoping that this education program will help out so fingers crossed.

A

Let's move on so the last item listed here is a the el merge client release naming um if people remember. In december, we had organized a community meeting for the cl consensus layer, um client name for for the consensus layer and bellatrix was the winner, and this time jim baker started a magician thread where people are suggesting names. What can be the code name for execution layer, client uh specs?

A

So if you have a suggestion or if you would like to vote your vote for any of the available options, so please follow the link and uh yeah. You can do either suggest or give a heart to whatever you like, and then we will eventually have a community meeting in which we can go for voting and deciding what is the final name that could be used for code name for el uh merge upgrade so that's about it.

A

The next one is ach funding yeah. We have processed the malac uh funds uh about bitcoin round 12. We received some funds like a clr. I tried to process that, but we encountered some issue. However, yesterday I received a response from the support team, so I'm hoping to process this again, maybe today and uh yeah. We hope that this should be resolved and we can get the funds there on the pm and funding side. um I didn't get in touch with the turret. Yet again it's my bad.

A

I will try to get hold of him and see if we need to keep that issue open anymore. Otherwise we can just close it because we haven't either received any new information from the team or from new address from the community over there. So it's kind of steel issue there and on the funding side I see some of the open issues we hope to uh get them close.

A

This week we have tried to close the older issues which were there since january sorry for the delay and thank you for the patience I know because of vacations. It was delayed so long uh generally, the cadences we try to uh get with the funding issues every two weeks, but this time it was longer- and the last item here is the outstanding action items from the previous ech meeting.

A

um So from the last meeting it seems like we have five decisions, slash action items number one going to create a group to develop, learn and concept. Yes, we have made quite some progress and we did share in the meeting today I did the ech3 anniversary video.

A

Yes, we are working on the three year anniversary, video and blog, both william to follow up with trent on merit block migration. It's uh wib uh work in progress, um 75.4 initial transaction to receive funding from bitcoin and malloc malloc is processed. Bitcoin is in progress, we'll hope to get it done by the next meeting, 75.5 puja to get in touch with jared to see about closing of json rpc issue. No, I couldn't do that. It's going to be outstanding, we'll get back on this issue in the next meeting.

A

So that's all from the items listed here. uh We still have some time. If anyone would like to talk about anything or bring up.

B

uh I I one related effort. um Stefan's comment just uh sparked the idea in my head, I'm I'm working with a couple of friends of mine to basically introduce crypto and blockchain to our alma maters and where we went to school um they're. Very I just did a quick scan online, there's very few schools that actually have a crypto department. I know some of them like mit or stanford, have research hubs, but you know, for you know where I went to school.

B

There's nothing quite like that yet, and the goal would be to kind of demystify the technology, the ethos. What is this about um and someday? Hopefully have you know students attending schools like dartmouth or others where you could major in blockchain technology, for example? um And it's I I love the interdisciplinary nature of the space.

B

uh You don't have to be a developer to be part of ethereum or any other network like it. um So it's I'm working with kind of school administrators and student organizations now to get it started.

B

That's brilliant I'll need to do that with my alma mater university of utah, yeah yeah, I'm sure I mean if you're at 20, something today and you're, not interested in crypto you're, probably in the minority. So there's gonna, be it's there's, not a lack of interest. I think it's just uh you know trying to convince professors and school administrators that it's worth kind of studying, which I think may be an uphill battle, depending on where you go to school, but I know some are very very receptive to it.

B

uh They just don't quite know where to start. Yet I think is the problem.

D

B

Can help you out.

D

With tech with any technical knowledge, I'm happy to lend that, like one of the things that I try to do on the side, I usually just call on call onboarding, which is like people who need some technical knowledge are trying to get a better understanding of things that are going on. I'm happy to help out where I can in in my other life, I am actually a smart contract developer, so uh yeah. If there's anything I can help with like. Definitely like you know, should be a dm or anything like that.

B

Yep for sure, for sure, thank you.

E

Hi, um I just wanted to say that I used to be an academic in, and I was four years ago I was a research fellow at yale law school on blockchain, so I know a few people over there and uh in korea and japan who teach or are related to are doing research on fintech or blockchain. So, if you're interested in connecting to some people, I guess I could reach out to you. If you want.

B

Oh awesome that'd be great. I I just posted our um little notion doc that I got up and running over christmas, uh so it's very it's very early, very messy, but we're we're in like the info gathering phase right now, just compiling a database of campuses. I I listed the ones I know, but there's many more than you know the 10 or 15 I've listed here. So any and all help would be- uh would be super helpful here.

E

uh Yeah, so um I guess I I'll reach out to you. If you are interested.

C

Yep awesome thank you and I'll reach out to you as well about your comment. I noted your discord, so I will reach out to you as well, and I can share some a link as well from my local university university of basel. They have a a crypto online crypto lectures. It's called and they have a center for innovative finance. Vitalik has received the honorary doctor title from them as well, so um they they work together. I think I can share that as well. Maybe it helps.

B

That's very helpful you're uh I feel like every school listed here is well ahead of mine, so we need to catch up.

C

A

Well, thank you all. This is pretty interesting. One of the key audience of all these programs that we are trying to run here is like new people who are joining and starting with universities and colleges. That's an awesome step, and it's a good effort that I can see. I'm just checking the notion that you have shared it's really nice I mean we can have these people reached out to would be a good good way of engaging new people in the blockchain.

A

So thank you, everyone for all these great conversation and the efforts that you are putting into this ecosystem and yeah. Any final question comment thought from anyone.

B

Oh who's going to eat denver.

A

That's a good one.

A

I may not be going there, but maybe I would be speaking for cat hardest. Virtually.

B

Awesome well, if anyone's around I'm familiar with the denver area, so I'm happy to be the free tour guide.

A

I hope to see you next year, maybe when things are better.

B

I hope so I thought that last year, but who knows.

A

Yeah all right seriously, I mean it's it's too bad. We have been trying to meet people for past two years and it's like, oh no, you can't go out all right. It was a fun meeting today and again now we can continue talking about anything any topic. Anything that you think is relevant can be helpful to any other fellow community member. Please share in our discord and we'll try to just keep jamming on that.

A

Thank you. Everyone for joining today and uh yeah see you soon have a good one. Everyone.

D

Thanks pleasure.

C

Thanks have a good one as well. Bye.