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From YouTube: EIP editor's apprenticeship meeting 13
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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/EIPIP/issues/109
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Hello,
I'm
omar.
I
just
I
thought
I
joined
this
this
meeting
because
I
thought
it
was
public.
I'm
here
with
marvin
we
wrote
the
one
of
the
eips,
which
is
still
a
draft
and
we
thought
might
be
nice
just
to
to
come
and
see
how
things
go
and
also,
if
you
ever
have
any
question
while
you're
doing
any
reviews.
So
it's
it
can
be
useful.
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I'm
not
since
well
personally,
I'm
pretty
new
to
this
whole
process.
I
don't
know
how
you
usually
do
things,
maybe
maybe
you
could
tell
me
what
what
exactly
do
you
do
in
these
meetings?
Do
you
review
like
the
the
shape
like
the
form
of
of
the
eip
and
then
once
it
it's
it's.
Okay
with
you
know,
eip1
like
the
standard,
how
it
should
be,
then
it's
reviewed
by
some
other
people
or
how
does
it
work
exactly
yeah.
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For
the
most
part,
you
know,
especially
for
ercs,
I'm
just
reviewing
to
make
sure
that
they
fit
the
eip1
requirements
and
I'm
not
as
involved
in
the
application
layer.
So
I
and
there's
a
lot
of
more
ercs
than
corey.
So
I
don't
and
tend
to
do,
like
in-depth
review
of
you
know.
Does
this?
Does
this
make
sense
like
how
does
it
fit
together?
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Not
basically,
as
long
as
it's
following
the
guidelines
of
e1,
it
will
get
merged
at
some
point,
I
think
the
one
thing
that
tends
to
keep
an
erc
from
getting
merged
as
if
it's
you
know
it
tends
to
be
written
by
like
non-native
english
speakers
and
it's
like
very
difficult
to
understand.
There's
like
numerous
grammatical
errors.
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Place
in
general,
the
general
recommendation
for
documenting
these
proposals
are
available
in
eip1
amp.
One
also
contains
the
template,
I'm
sure
people
are
making
use
of
that.
The
template
has
recently
been
updated
with
some
of
the
edits
like
earlier.
We
used
to
have
simple
summary:
we
do
not
have
it
anymore.
We
have
it
as
description
now,
so
some
minor
changes
have
been
introduced
in
past
few
months,
so
it's
highly
recommended
for
new
authors
to
have
a
look
into
it.
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And
yes,
I
would
like
to
make
a
mention
of.
Like
a
few
months
ago,
matt
garnett
recorded
a
very
good
episode
in
pete
and
eve
about
how
to
actually
like
document
proposals.
What
are
the
key
things
that
we
should
be
considering
while
someone
new
is
trying
to
document
a
proposal
for
ethereum
blockchain.
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I
see
many
many
new
people
create
a
discussion
tool
link
at
ethereum,
eip's
github
issue
section,
but
we
are
highly
recommending
to
move
the
discussion
to
link
to
the
fellowship
of
ethereum
magicians,
because
we
would
like
to
eventually
close
the
issue
and
the
magician
link
is
live
forever.
I
mean
it
isn't
close
because
it's
a
threat,
it
is
life
forever.
So
if
you
have
created
a
discussion
to
link
here,
please
create
a
fellowship
of
ethereum
magician
thread
for
discussing
the
proposal.
Getting
feedback
from
from
implementers
and
other
projects.
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Yeah
restart
the
internet
at
his
end,
maybe
it
was
in
the
meanwhile.
If
you
had
a
chance
to
look
into
any
of
the
pull
requests,
we
are
trying
to
take
question.
We
did
talk
about
one
full
request:
four,
five:
zero.
Sorry,
four,
six,
seven
one
pr,
four,
six,
seven
one
and
yeah.
If
there
is
anything
that
you
would
like
to
especially
bring
to
the
table
here,.
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Look.
If
I
take
back
the
example
of
vitalik,
he
was
saying
you
might
want
to
deliver
a
token
or
a
certificate
to
someone
who
has
climbed
mount
everest.
For
instance,
you
don't
want
to
make
that
certificate
tradable,
because
when
you
own
the
certificate
it
stops,
meaning
that
you
actually
done
something,
but
it
means
that
you
bought
it
from
someone
else.
So
that's
why,
here
the
idea
is
to
make
tokens
that
you
cannot
trade,
that
you
cannot
transfer
and
so
someone,
I
guess,
the
denomination
here,
non-tradable
tokens.
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The
point
is,
I
mean
the
point
of
a
standard
is
first,
I
mean
the
first
point
is
for
people
to
to
use
it
right.
If
people
don't
use
a
standard,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
a
standard,
or
at
least
it's
not
really
useful,
and
for
in
order
for
people
to
use
the
standard,
they
must
understand
it,
and
so
relying
on
the
facts
that
people
already
know
what
nfts
are
and
they're
already
familiar
with
the
concept
having
something
that
is
a
bit
similar
that
you
can
describe
that
you
can
describe
using
nft
concepts.
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So
basically,
that's
the
idea
it's
to
have
a
proof
of
possession
a
proof
of
achievement
on
the
blockchain,
and
that
is
immutable,
and
you
can
imagine
so
many
use
cases
as,
for
instance,
having
an
identity
on
the
blockchain.
So
I
know
some
other
protocols
are
working
on
on
this,
but,
for
instance,
if
you
could
have
one
identity
like
one
proof
that
you
exist
and
you
put
that
on
the
blockchain,
any
any
company,
any
kind
of
service
could
use
that
identity.
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To
then
give
you
rights
to,
I
don't
know,
voting
on
their
platform
or
whatever,
whatever
kind
of
stuff
you
can
imagine,
even
the
universal
basic
income
on
the
blockchain.
All
these
things
are
made
possible
only
if
you
can,
if
you
can
identify
a
person
I
mean,
when
I
say
identify,
I
don't
I
don't
mean
knowing
who
that
person
is
exactly,
but
I
mean
being
sure
that
an
address
represents
a
single
human
person.
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So
if
you
could
deliver
a
national
id
on
the
blockchain,
you
could
deliver
it
as
a
non-tradable
token,
and
once
you
have
that
you
can
start
building
on
top
of
it
all
these
crazy
ideas,
so
that
would
be
just
one
use
case,
but
otherwise
everything
that
is
non-tradable
that
that
an
authority,
sorry
that
an
authority
delivers
to
you
personally,
you
can
represent
it
as
a
non-tradable
token.
So
that's
the
idea.
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One
other
use
case,
for
instance,
is
everything
related
to
background
verification.
So
when
you,
when
you
enter
a
new
company,
you
might
have
some
other
external
company
hired
to
make
your
background
verification
to
to
see
where
you
come
from,
what
national
ids
you
have
what
school
diplomas
you
have
if
you
have
a
driving
license
and
this
kind
of
stuff.
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Who
delivered
me
a
diploma
and
asked
them?
If
I
actually
did
have
these
things
and
did
do
these
things
right
and
all
this
wouldn't
be
necessary.
If
the
authorities
in
question,
could
you
know,
publish
a
non-tradable
token
and
assign
it
to
you
on
the
blockchain,
then
the
company
who
wants
to
hire
you-
and
this
is
just
you
know-
I'm
talking
about
companies
and
and
stuff
here,
but
it
could
be
any
any
any
kind
of
thing.
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So
that's
why
it's
very
important
that
it's
not
tradable,
because
if
it
starts
being
tradable,
it
doesn't
mean
that
you've
done
something
anymore.
It
just
means
I
mean
it
could
mean
that
you've
done
something,
but
it
could
also
mean
that
you've
bought
the
token
from
someone
or
you
know
something
like
this.
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That's
a
pretty
interesting
idea,
I'm
aware
of
some
of
the
projects
like
that,
a
block
cert
or
something
even
I
tried
to
do
it
sometimes
back.
I
mean,
like
my
team,
was
trying
to
do
it,
something
like
that,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
standard
around
it.
I'm
not
sure
what
are
the
other
thoughts,
but
definitely
this
is
a
good
proposal
in
in
my
understanding,
and
we
can
maybe
further
talk
about
it
in
one
of
the
meetings
to
have
an
overview
of
this
proposal.
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Questions
about
this
is
it
feels
like
there's
two
things
at
odds
here
like
one.
You
want
to
have
the
ability
of
like
not
being
able
to
transfer
these
credentials
to
anybody
else,
but
that
sort
of
enforces
that
you
have
this
really
rigid
system
that
doesn't
allow
for
people
to
change,
to
use
different
wallets
or
lose
their
wallets,
and
I
feel
like
a
robust
system
for
credentials,
needs
to
have
the
abil.
The
ability
to
you
know
allow
people
to
migrate
to
a
new
wallet
or,
if
they
lose
a
wallet
update
this.
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You
know,
send
a
assigned
message
from
one
of
the
two
wallets
and
do
like
some
some
kind
of
trick
to
be
able
to
verify
that
you
own
the
other
wallet
and
then
transfer
token.
But
then,
when
you
start
doing
things
like
that,
you
could
always
imagine
ways
in
which
well,
you
can
transfer
the
token
to
anyone
if
that
person
is
willing
to
give
you
the
right
information.
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So,
but
I
mean
this
whole
thing
actually
fits
into
maybe
a
larger
problematic,
and
that
is
how
do
you?
How
do
you
do
the
the
link
between
an
ethereum
address
and
the
real
person
an
actual
person
in
the
real
world
like?
How
do
you
know
that
address
actually
belongs
to
that
person
and
not
someone
else
but
yeah?
So
the
idea
was
to
just
get
rid
of
the
headaches
in
this
case
and
disallowed
the
transfer.
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You
know
in
a
way
it's
a
bit
like
having
an
actual
wallet.
If
you
have
a
wallet
in
your
pocket
and
you
drop
it
well,
you
you
kind
of
lose
everything,
it's
sad,
but
it's
true.
You
lose
your
identity,
identity
card
and
everything
like
that,
and
if
you
want
a
new
identity
card,
you
would
just
ask
you
know
the
state
to
deliver
a
new
card,
and
so
they
would
invalidate
the
old
card.
And
so
that's
why
there
is
this
idea
of
invalidating
tokens
the
standard,
because
it
could.
G
It
could
be
useful
in
multiple
ways
that
this
one
that
I
just
described
as
one
way
another
way
could
be
well
since
the
authority
delivers
the
certificate
they
they're.
Also
in
right
to,
you
know
invalidated
if
you've
done
if
they
learn
at
some
point
that
you've
done
something
wrong
or
that
you
haven't
actually
earned
that
certificate.
So
you
could
imagine
driving
licenses,
you
know
if
you
lose
your
driving
license,
it
doesn't
actually
disappear,
but
it's
just
invalidated.
It's
just
a
flag
and
it's
set
so
so
yeah.
I
agree
you
don't
really
like
if
you
lose.
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Your
wallets
well,
well,
you're
kind
of
screwed,
but
that's
also
how
it
happens
in
real
life.
So
you
know
that's
how
we
thought
about
it.
It's
not
the
perfect,
the
perfect
solution,
of
course,
but
in
order
to
prevent
tokens
from
being
transferred
to
a
person
that
hasn't
actually
done
the
thing
for
which
the
token
was
delivered.
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If
you
lose
your
wallet,
you
would
need
to
go
and
ask
the
authority
for
the
credentials
again,
but,
like
I'm,
the
way
I'm
understanding
is
that
there
could
potentially
be
a
lot
of
credentials
that
you're
linking
to
your
identity
and
your
you
don't
carry
these
credentials
around
frequently
right,
and
so
you
know,
if
I
lose
my
wallet,
I
might
just
lose
my
driver's
license
or
if
I
lose
my
crypto
wallet,
I
might
lose
my
driver's
license.
My
college
degree,
you
know
any
kind
of
like
certifications.
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And
I
do
think
that
that
should
be
a
central
part
of
the
discussion
around
this.
Now,
though,
like
maybe
even
including,
like
I
see
that
you've
put
in
a
ton
of
variants
there,
so
having
a
variant
where
maybe
a
council
can
transfer
to
a
new
address
might
be
might
be
worthwhile,
or
at
least
making
some
kind
of
caveat
that
it
doesn't
break
the
standard
if
it
if
one
of
these
is
actually
somewhat
transferable.
A
All
right
so
like
in
that
sense
of
time
I
was
just
trying
to
share
some
more
information
with
the
people
who
may
be
new.
So
in
addition
to
this
call,
we
also
have
a
call
eip
ib
meeting
where
we
have
other
editors
joining
in
and
talking
about
any
issue
or
any
any
road
blocker
in
particular,
so
good
glad
that
we
resolved
the
thing
here
in
this
call
for
this
particular
proposal.
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You
know
that
disables
the
transfer
function,
for
instance,
and
we
add
a
whole
bunch
of
other
functions
that
we
want
ones
that
are
in
this
standard
in
eip
4671,
and
we
would
basically
end
up
with
the
same
thing,
except
that
we
wouldn't
have
an
interface.
We
would
have
like
an
implementation.
One
implementation
of
erc,
721
and
people
would
use
would
extend
or
implement
from
implement
that
class.
That's
that
specific
implementation,
rather
than
implementing
the
interface.
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Okay,
I
think
it
makes
sense
that
we
we
convene
next,
no
not
next
week,
two
weeks
from
now,
for
this
call-
and
I
hope
by
then
we
would
look
into
more
proposals.
As
of
now
we
can
see
there
are
over
60
pull
requests
yeah.
We
have
like
what
total
pull
request
6305,
why?
I
can't
see
the
number
anymore:
doesn't
it
show
yeah?
It
does
65,
so
we
have
like
65
open,
pull
requests,
and
most
of
them
have
already
received
at
least
an
initial
comment
from
the
editors.
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So
we
will
look
into
these
proposals
next
time
or
in
the
meantime,
from
today
till
the
next
meeting.
If
eap
editors
get
time
to
look
into
the
proposals,
maybe
some
of
them
will
be
merged
and
all
those
proposals
which
are
merged
and
have
some
major
changes
either
in
terms
of
a
status
or
in
terms
of
sometimes
category
and
type.
Those
are
all
listed
in
eip's
insight
that
we
publish
every
month,
so
people
can
also
refer
that
for
some
information
related
to
eips.