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Right now, the DAO ecosystem is built around one-token-one-vote or one-cpu-one-vote schemes.
With strong sybil resistence, the ecosystem could move to DAOs built on one-human-one-vote. This unlocks more democratic use cases like:
- quadratic funding
- quadratic voting
- Gini coefficient measurements
- UBI
- one-person-one-vote DAOs
- data collectives
- sybil resistant airdrops
+ more
Learn about the current landscape of sybil resistance techniques in web3.
Speaker(s): Kevin Owocki
Track: Developer Infrastructure
Keywords: sybil,dao,democracy
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A
A
Kevin
Olson
is
our
engineering
lead
at
coindao
and
is
going
to
be
talking
about
the
passport
money
Lego
and
how
you
can
use
it
to
create
civil
resistance,
and
we
also
have
an
appearance
by
Kevin
McAllister,
who
is
another
Kevin,
a
very
Kevin
heavy
lineup
and
the
tie-in
with
Kevin
McAllister?
Is
that
he's
actually
also
in
an
infinite
game
between
adversaries,
robbers
that
are
trying
to
rob
his
house
and
he
is
trying
to
prevent
it.
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
civil
resistance
through
the
allegory
of
Home
Alone
in
home
alone,
2..
A
So
the
agenda
for
this
talk
is
why
civil
resistance
is
an
important
problem
to
resent
to
to
address
we're
going
to
characterize
the
Civil
resistance
problem
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
civil
resistance
money
Lego.
So
just
very
briefly,
civil
resistance
is
just
basically.
How
do
you
prevent
sock
puppet
accounts
in
your
web3
based
system?
How
do
you
create
more
one
human
one
vote
based
systems
in
the
web
3.
in
this
room?
A
We
are
all
physical
humans
and
it's
pretty
clear
that
there's
one
human
per
chair
unless
we're
getting
weird
if
the
session
gets
packed
but
online,
it's
actually
really
hard
to
tell
that.
You've
got
one
human
window
system,
and
that
is
what
civil
resistance
is
about.
So
maybe
I'll
start
with
a
quick
crowd
engagement.
How
many
people
have
used
Bitcoin
grants
all
right,
just
a
pulse
check,
but
I'm
really
proud
that
get
going.
Grants
has
supported
so
much
public
goods
funding
in
the
ethereum
ecosystem
and
is
the
magic
of
quadratic
funding.
A
That
is
how
Bitcoin
grants
works
and
the.
Why
it's
what
the
reason
why
it's
so
magical
we're
going
to
do
a
quick
quadratic
funding
calculation,
but
before
I,
do
that
I
just
want
to
say
that
vitalik
buterin,
Glenn,
Weil
and
Zoe
hitzig
are
the
ones
that
actually
came
up
with
quadratic
funding
and
I
view
it
as
this
like
perfect
alien,
Crystal
intelligence
that
I
just
like
inherited
and
we're
the
ones
who
are
kind
of
bringing
it
to
the
world,
of
course,
along
with
CLR
fund
and
some
other
great
projects
that
are
doing
qf
so
anyway.
A
The
way
qf
works
is
that
every
quarter
on
git
coin
there's
three
million
dollars
worth
of
matching
and
we
distributed
contemporaneously,
which
is
just
a
fancy
word
for
at
the
same
time
as
a
crowdfunding
campaign
and
with
quadratic
funding.
If
more
people
contribute
to
your
Grant,
then
you
will
get
more
funding
from
the
matching
pool.
So
in
this
example,
both
grants
get
ten
dollars,
but
Grant
get
one
gets
way
more
of
the
matching
pool
because
it
has
more
identities
associated
with
it.
And
what
what's
really
cool
is
this?
A
This
gets
you
off
your
bum
in
order
to
contribute
to
public
goods,
because
now
a
dollar
worth
of
impact
can
have
a
hundred
dollar.
A
dollar
donation
can
be
worth
a
hundred
dollars
worth
of
impact,
or
a
ten
dollar
donation
can
be
worth
a
thousand
dollars
worth
of
impact.
There
was
a
thread
during
get
going
Grant
round,
13,
where
a
one
dollar
donation
to
coin
Center,
which
is
a
grant
that
which
is
a
project
that
does
lobbying
in
DC
a
one
dollar
donation
to
a
coin.
A
Center
would
give
a
thousand
dollars
worth
of
impact,
and
people
thought
it
was
a
scam,
because
the
matching
multiple
was
so
high.
That's
how
powerful
quadratic
funding
is,
and
if
you
look
at
it
at
a
systemic
level,
we
hit
the
meme
number
69
million
dollars
worth
of
funding
of
for
public
goods
on
bitcoin.
If
you
look
at
a
systemic
level,
the
contribution
graph
at
get
coin,
grants
is
what
I'm
most
proud
of.
A
Those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
have
been
funded
on
bitcoin
grants
and
it
is
the
goal
of
Bitcoin
grants
to
build
a
channel
for
greater
combinations
of
strength
and
intelligence
to
come
together
using
quadratic
funding
to
measure
the
preferences
of
its
Community.
But
there
is
a
problem:
not
everything
is
great
in
Bitcoin
land
and
it's
the
Civil
attackers,
so
Grant
number
two
when
they
realize
they're
getting
jipped
by
the
funding
can
just
make
up
more
identities
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
they
get
all
the
matching
pool.
And
that
is
the
Civil
resistance
problem.
A
If
you're
me
and
you're
the
founder
of
Bitcoin,
then
you
start
to
realize
that
Bitcoin
kind
of
looks
like
a
Castle
in
the
Sky
Bitcoin
depends
on
bitcoin
grants,
which
depends
on
quadratic
funding,
which
depends
on
civil
resistance,
and
there
is
no
good
money
Lego
for
civil
resistance,
so
I
did
not
choose
this
problem.
This
this
problem
chose
me,
but
here
we
are
public.
Goods
are
good
and
important
and
we
are
trying
to
solve
the
Civil
resistance
problem
at
Bitcoin,
but
the
vision
is
larger
than
Bitcoin.
What?
A
If
we
could
build
a
money
logo
for
civil
resistance,
we
could
go
from
plutocratic
systems
dominated
by
tokens
and
capital
to
one
human
one
vote
systems
that
are
dominated
by
people
and
I
just
want
to
camp
on
this
point
for
a
little
bit,
because
if
we
want
web3
to
go
mainstream,
it
can't
just
be
targeted
at
rich
people
forever.
It
needs
to
be
targeted
at
everyday
people
whose
Financial
lives
are
their
jobs
in
their
community
and
not
just
the
Investments
that
they're
making
in
the
s
p
500.
A
there
you
go
so
one
human
one
vote
is
good,
and
so
we've
used
civil
resistance
as
this,
this
sort
of
prism
that
if
we
can
solve
for
civil
resistance,
then
not
only
can
we
build
quadratic
funding.
We
can
build
quadratic
voting.
We
can
build
Genie
coefficient
measurements,
basically
measurements
of
inequality.
In
these
systems.
We
can
build
Ubi
based
systems,
we
can
do
one
person,
one
vote,
Dallas
or
better,
better
air
drops
in
general.
We
can
build
data
collectives
and
and
build
more
human-centric
dials
from
there.
So
that's
the
importance
of
civil
resistance.
A
A
Kidney
Persona
is
just
kind
of
like
someone
who's
copying
the
scripts
in
the
hacks
that
other
people
are
putting
out
there
and
they
don't
have
any
real
skill
or
ambition
they're,
just
kind
of
looking
for
the
cheapest
way
to
to
make
a
buck
online.
One
level
above
the
script
Kitty
in
the
level
of
sophistication
in
planning.
Is
you
got
your
petty
criminals?
Maybe
these
people
are
able
to
run
a
little
bit
more
of
a
sophisticated
operation?
A
They
have
a
little
bit
more
Capital
to
dedicate
to
civil,
attacking
your
system,
but
they're
still
not
really
producing
their
own
software
or
or
ecosystem.
In
order
to
do
it
and
I
don't
want
to
only
have
this
talk
about
civil
attacks
on
a
moral
Vector,
because
I
think
there's
a
rational
economic
reason
to
attack
the
get-going
grants,
matching
pool
and
I,
don't
think
it's
wise
for
us
as
people
who
are
building
civil
resistance
to
moralize
this
too
much.
A
So
the
story
behind
this
slide
is
that
there
was
a
salon
on
D5
Dev
that
made
his
protocol
look
more
active
by
just
making
up
personas,
and
these
are
some
of
the
memes
that
came
off
of
Twitter
from
that
organized
crime.
So,
basically
you
got
your
mafias.
You
got
your
state
sponsors
hacking
groups.
These
are
the
kind
of
people
who
can
develop
zero
days
and
can
attack
not
only
Bitcoin
grants
but
can
attack
the
entire
ethereum
ecosystem.
A
When
I
talked
to
Danny,
Ryan
and
I
about
the
merge,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
like
the
software
supply
chain
that
underpins
the
merge
like
Linux
and
all
the
software
libraries
that
are
underneath
that
the
firmware
supply
chain
and
organized
crime
is
sophisticated
scary,
because
they're
sophisticated
enough
to
develop
hacks
in
zero
days
for
your
entire
software
supply
chain
and
then
above
that,
you've
got
your
nation
states.
You've
got
your
North
koreas.
You've
got
your
adversarial
cyber
security
sort
of
attackers
and
these
people
you
know
like.
A
Basically,
if
you
think
that
all
Warfare
is
going
online
in
the
future,
then
Bitcoin
grants
in
ethereum
can
just
be
collateral,
Warfare
in
or
collateral
damage
in
the
nation-state,
a
Warfare
game.
So
those
are
our
adversaries,
or
at
least
a
good
swath
of
those
adversaries,
and
now
that
we
have
identified
those
adversaries,
both
in
theory
and
on
bitcoin
grants,
we
can
characterize
the
Civil
resistance
game
and
the
first
criteria
or
I
guess
the
zeroth
criteria
since
we're
developers
here
and
we're
zero
offsetting.
Our
our
nature
is
an
adversarial
nature.
A
There's
a
zero-sum
game
between
the
Civil
attackers
on
bitcoin
and
the
Civil
Defenders,
who
want
to
defend
the
matching
pool
kind
of
like
Harrison,
Ford
and
Indiana
Jones
I
may
be
dating
myself
in
ethereum
ecosystem.
It's
all
gen
Z,
but
for
us
Millennials,
Harrison
Ford,
trying
to
capture
this
golden
trophy
I
think
was
pretty
cool
or
I'd
like
to
invite
another
Kevin
to
the
stage
and
that's
Kevin
McAllister
who's,
trying
to
defend
his
home
from
an
adversary
that
wants
to
get
in
and
I
think
steal.
A
His
presence
I'm
not
actually
really
sure
what
the
the
criminals
in
in
the
Home
Alone
were
after,
but
there's
some
hilarious
results
from
that.
So
there's
an
adversary,
nature,
adversarial
nature
to
the
Civil
resistance
game
on
bitcoin
and
I
want
to
note
that
not
all
adversaries
are
motivated
by
the
exact
same
thing.
You've
got
basically
varying
levels
of
sophistication
in
your
adversaries
and
resourcefulness
of
your
adversaries
from
script
kitties
up
to
nation
states,
but
a
various
amount
of
a
diversity
of
motivations.
A
Some
people
just
want
to
make
want
to
do
it
for
the
walls
they're
in
it,
for
the
thrill
of
up
Bitcoin
and
like
the
posts
that
they're
going
to
put
on
Twitter
after
it,
and
so
it's
not
just
an
economic
reason
why
people
want
to
get
civil
resistance.
Some
people
are
in
it
for
the
thrill.
Some
people
are
in
it
for
the
walls
and
some
people
just
like
hard
problems,
and
because
of
the
diversity
of
sophistication
and
resources
into
intelligences
and
motivations.
A
You
get
a
lot
of
diversity
and
methods
of
civil
attackers
in
your
system
and
I've
seen
this
live
on.
Bitcoin
grants
in
the
past
in
the
Civil
rings
that
we've
discovered,
and
so
you
have
to
plan
for
plurality
at
the
base
layer
of
how
you
solve
civil
resistance
and
I
think
this
kind
of
informs
where,
where
I
think
that
we
need
to
go
with
civil
resistance,
because
there's
there's
basically
four
ways
to
create
civil
resistance,
you
can
do
it
with
biometric.
A
You
can
do
it
with
nation
state
like
kyc,
like
government
IDs,
you
can
do
it
with
presence-based
things
like.
Basically,
the
fact
that
you
are
all
present
here
is
a
civil
resistance
signal
in
in
a
sort
of
way,
and
then
you
can
create
web
of
trust
style
systems
and
one
challenge
as
you're
trying
to
create
those
systems
is
the
need
for
privacy,
centricity
and
sovereignty
and
consent
as
we're
building
civil
resistance
into
these
tools
and
so
Bitcoin
passport.
A
You
can
turn
that
into
a
verifiable
credential
which
Bitcoin
passport
stores
on
ceramic,
only
non-personally
identifiable
information,
and
so
all
of
this
data
is
is
stored
off
chain,
and
then
you
can
build
an
aggregator
or
an
aggregate
or
if
you're,
a
meme
word
like
I
am
these
days
and
that
can
be
created
used
to
create
a
personhood
score.
That
is
is
basically
like.
You
can
think
of
a
personhood
score
as
being
ten
dollars
worth
of
cost
of
forgery
in
your
Bitcoin
passport.
A
So
someone
who
has
a
10
personhood
score
is
ten
dollars
to
forge
their
Identity
or
someone
with
a
ten
thousand
personhood
score
is
ten
thousand
dollars
worth
of
simple
resistance
and
you
as
adapt
developer.
Integrating
Bitcoin
passport
can
give
that
much
amount
of
rational
economic
rewards
to
them,
because
the
cost
of
forgery
is
x,
amount
and
Bitcoin
can
give
x
amount
of
that
matching
pool
to
them.
So
I
think
that
we
do
not
want
to
create
a
panopticon.
A
We
are
not
web
2
and
privacy
and
sovereignty
has
to
be
a
criteria
for
how
we
solve
civil
resistance.
The
need
to
avoid
plutocracy
is
another
thing
that
we've
learned
from
web
2
as
being
being
very
important
here
so
basically
in
web
2,
Facebook
and
Zuck
owns
your
data,
and
how
do
we
create
a
system
in
web3
that
is
diverse
and
pluralistic
and
has
the
network
effects
of
creating
digital
identity
but
doesn't
become
captured
by
a
a
rational
economic
actor?
A
So
basically,
what
you
don't
want
to
have
is
is
basically
like
a
company
that
owns
all
of
your
identity
data,
that's
governed
by
shareholders
and
the
management
of
that
company
has
a
fiduciary
duty
to
maximize
value
for
the
shareholders,
because
you
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
your
data
in
that
situation,
it's
just
going
to
be
used
to
sell
more
ads
against
you.
So
with
Git
coin.
A
One
of
the
reasons
why
we
launched
the
Dow-
and
there
are
many-
is
that
we
wanted
to
be
governed
by
the
community
that
we
served,
and
this
is
a
distribution
of
the
Bitcoin
voting
power
as
of
the
launch
in
Q2
of
2021..
So
basically,
community
members,
like
Trent
Van,
Epps,
Austin,
Griffith,
Linda,
Z,
left
Harris
Griffin
are
the
ones
that
are
delegating
your
voting
power
to
with
GTC
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
making
decisions
on
behalf
of
the
system
and
on
the
long
Arc
of
things.
A
Even
I
will
have
no
power
in
Bitcoin
as
I,
eventually
disaffiliate
as
I
disaffiliate
leadership,
and
these
people
are
actually
in
charge
of
governing
the
data
in
the
protocol
that
we
have
in
the
future.
So
plutocracy
is
a
big
thing
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
solve.
For
another
thing
we
need
to
solve
for
is
called
collusion
and
it's
basically
one
layer
above
the
stack
of
the
Civil
resistance
problem.
It
goes
like
this
Hey
Kevin
Olsen
I
see
that
you've
got
a
person,
who's
heard
score
of
a
hundred
dollars.
I'll
give
you
50
bucks.
A
If
I
can
borrow
your
ID
yeah,
there
you
go,
and
so
basically
what
happens
is
as
people
realize
that
they
can
get
around
the
Civil
resistance
in
the
system
by
colluding
with
each
other.
Then
more
of
the
people
who
are
neutral
to
the
system
begin
to
turn
red
because
the
rational
economic
incentive
is
to
attack
the
system
and
and
not
defend
the
system.
Conclusion.
A
So
all
we
can
do
is
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
we
own
the
battle
arena
in
which
they're
attacking
the
system
and
over
time
turn
the
dials,
so
that
the
blue
team
is
more
empowered
than
the
red
team
in
this
iterative,
evolutionary
infinite
game
between
the
Civil
attackers
and
the
Defenders.
So
if
you
Empower
a
Sentry,
a
blue
person,
a
blue
team
person
to
prevent
that
red
team
person
from
colluding,
then
basically,
instead
of
infinitely
growing
into
into
occlusion
attack,
you
basically
stop
at
it.
A
At
its
source,
so
basically
you
get
to
a
point
where
the
blue
team
can
say.
Oh
this
again,
this
pattern
matches
against
something
that
I've
seen
and
you
can
prevent
the
Civil
attack
from
going.
There
is
a
plurality
of
types
of
attacks
that
will
happen
in
these
systems
and
so
because
of
that,
there's
going
to
be
a
plurality
of
defenses
that
are
going
to
be
need
to
be
built
into
this
system,
and
the
idea
is
to
make
it
so
that
it
is
not
worth
an
attacker's
time
to
attack
the
system.
A
You
hear
metallic
talk
about
this,
this
property
of
systemic
defensibility.
When
he
talks
about
proof
of
stake
and
how
much
more
expensive
it
is
to
attack
the
proof
of
State
consensus
protocol
than
it
is
to
defend
the
the
protocol.
So,
basically,
we
want
to
have
that
same
property
inside
of
our
civil
resistance
Battleground,
which,
by
the
way,
has
grown
a
lot
since
Bitcoin
grants
round
one
when
it
was
just
a
bunch
of
end
users.
Some
of
them
were
red
team
and
they're.
A
Only
after
a
25k
matching
pool
over
the
last
15
rounds,
we've
iterated
a
lot,
and
this
is
what
it
looks
like
now.
So
the
red
team
is
the
attackers
The
Blue
Team
are
people
that
use
get
coin
data
and
protocols
in
order
to
solve
it.
So
you've
got
the
end
users,
who
are
now
going
after
three
million
dollars
worth
of
matching,
but
in
order
to
get
to
it,
they
have
to
go
through
passport,
which
is
this
sovereignty
aware.
A
Privacy
is
preserving
data
store
for
figuring
out
who's,
a
civil
attacker
or
not
has
to
go
through
pairwise,
which
is
a
really
elegant
way
of
solving
conclusion
that
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
now,
but
I
can
send
you
a
reference
on
it
and
then
they
can
get
to
the
grants,
and
only
by
going
through
the
all
these
different
blue
team
exercises.
Are
they
able
to
get
to
the
three
million
dollars
in
matching
proactively?
B
A
So
anyone
here,
if
you
disagree
with
how
Bitcoin
is
doing
passport,
you
can
Fork
it
away
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
how
in
just
a
second
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
benefits
of
decentralization
is
basically
the
fact
that
anyone
can
go
in
and
can
Fork
Bitcoin
and
the
fact
that
it's
governed
by
its
community.
So
basically
what
this
looks
like
is
in
that
three-state
state
machine.
Anyone
can
go
in
and
add
their
own
stamp,
adding
more
data.
The
passport
should
be
consuming
that
contributes
to
civil
resistance
and
I.
A
The
cool
thing
about
Bitcoin
passport
is
it's
kind
of
like
Kirby.
It
can
swallow
all
of
the
different
data
that
exists
on
chain
and
off
chain
in
the
web3
ecosystem
is
stored
in
a
privacy
preserving
and
Sovereign
way,
and
when
we
have
a
plurality
of
attackers,
a
plurality
of
stamps
is
what's
going
to
help
us
build
a
stronger
Foundation
to
get
those
attackers
say
that
you
don't
agree
with
get
coins
person
with
scoring
algorithm,
say
you
think
bright.
A
Id
is
worth
a
hundred
and
ten
dollars
as
a
stamp
or
not
50
or
you
can
go
in
and
you
can
add
your
own
scoring
algorithm.
So
basically,
this
is
a
way
to
create
an
economy
of
marketplaces
that
have
opinionated
values
about
how
we
reduce
different
data
attributes
into
different
scores,
and
this
is
plurality
at
the
base
layer
that
we're
sort
of
building
in
it's
not
git.
Coin
saying
this
is
what
the
Civil
score
is
of
your
of
your
thing:
it's
it's!
A
Basically,
the
plurality
of
people
who
are
involved
in
passport
debating
these
in
the
open
economy
of
ideas
and
by
the
way,
if
you
want
to
use
the
passport
infrastructure,
the
state
machine
that
we've
built
not
for
civil
resistance.
So
you
want
to
build
like
a
regen
score
that
talks
about
how
worthy
of
an
under
cloudized
loan
you
are.
You
can
use
this
pipeline
for
that
too.
It
doesn't
even
have
to
be
about
civil
resistance
and
then
the
final
layer
is
that
you
can
add
personhood
score
to
your
d-app.
A
It's
basically
a
couple
lines
of
code
to
add
it
to
your
sign
in
with
ethereum
and
instead
of
just
getting
back
your
web3.eth.accounts
from
the
system
in
the
balance,
you
can
also
get
the
personhood
score
back
from
Bitcoin
passport.
So
adding
personhood
score
to
your
dap
is
kind
of
how
we
think
about
proliferating,
a
simple
resistant
ecosystem
to
the
rest
of
the
world.
All
right,
we're
in
the
home
stretch
now
I
got
two
more
criteria
for
you
and
then
we're
going
to
get
into
actually
building
stuff
with
Kevin.
A
So
the
need
to
build
Network
effects,
I
like
to
introduce
this
one
with
a
riddle,
and
that
riddle
is
if
I
build
the
most
perfectly
academic
civil
resistance,
algorithm
and
no
one
ever
uses
it
doesn't
make
a
sound.
The
cool
thing
about
Bitcoin
grants
is
that
we've
got
700
000
data
points
that
are
already
happening
about
civil
resistance,
and
so
basically,
the
more
users
use
Bitcoin
passport.
The
more
stamps
are
loaded
into
the
system.
A
The
more
reason
there
is
for
d-apps
to
consume
the
Civil
resistance
in
the
system,
which
means
that
more
users
will
get
their
get
coin
passport
and
that
will
create
more
stamps
and
I
could
go
on
in
this
infinite
Loop
for
the
rest
of
our
time.
But
out
of
respect
for
you,
we
will
move
on
to
the
evolutionary
nature
of
this
game,
which
is
the
part
of
the
game
that
I've
become
fascinated
with,
and
the
reason
why
we
called
this
talk.
A
The
infinite
game
of
civil
resistance
is
because
of
the
of
the
infinite
evolutionary
nature
of
this
game.
I
like
to
invite
my
friend,
Kevin
McAllister
back
in
order
to
illustrate
this
Kevin
McAllister
is
fighting
in
an
adversarial
game,
some
organized
criminals
who
are
trying
to
get
into
his
house,
and
he
does
it
by
icing
down
the
stairwell
off
his
backyard
and
he
does
it
by
putting
Micro
Machines
on
the
floor.
B
A
Mean
we
just
have
to
respect
that
Kevin
McAllister
is
the
third
governor
in
our
Kevin
Triad,
but-
and
you
know,
what's
funny-
is
like
over
time.
It
like
increasingly
approaches
like
a
YouTube
cover
video
of,
like
the
shocked
the
shocked
face
here,
but
I'm
not
here
to
judge
home
alone
all
right
so
anyway.
Basically
iterative
evolutionary
game
is
where
we
were.
Basically,
you
recognize
on
the
left
that
this
is
the
battle
arena
that
get
coin
get
coins
fundamental
advantage
in
this
is
that
it
owns
the
battle
arena.
A
So
this
is
an
iterative,
evolutionary,
infinite
game
between
the
good
guys
and
the
bad
guys,
and
the
goal
of
this
whole
system
is
to
increase
the
total
personhood
score
in
the
get
coin
Grant
system
over
time
to
be
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
worth
of
civil
resistance,
and
that
will
allow
us
to
be
bootstrap.
This
ecosystem
of
democratic
dials
by
increasing
the
total
personhood
score
of
the
system,
building
in
systemic
defensibility
into
the
system
from
there.
A
So
that
is
the
characterization
of
the
Civil
resistance
game
and
basically
I
want
to
talk
about
how
that
is
informed,
how
we've
built
get
coin
grants
and
Bitcoin
passport.
So
basically,
the
tldr
of
this
last
section
is
the
Bitcoin
grants
around
69,
which
is
another
meme
number
I,
think
that's
it
will
be
in
2027
at
this
point
will
be
privacy
and
sovereignty,
aware
it
will
avoid
plutocracy.
A
You
can
tell
that
because
I
have
this
Castle
in
the
Sky
of
Bitcoin
grants
and
we've
fallen
into
having
the
Civil
resistance
problem,
the
bitcoin's
taking
this
problem
pretty
seriously,
and
because
of
that,
we
want
to
be
a
shelling
point
for
creating
more
civil
resistance,
along
with
the
plurality
of
Partners
I,
see
many
of
you
in
this
room
right
now
around
solving
civil
resistance,
and
so
it's
basically
a
plural
approach
to
this
problem
and
I.
Think
that,
like
where
we've
kind
of
landed
is
that
we've
built
this
thing.
A
A
On
git
coin,
but
civil
resistance
and
more
democracy
for
web
3
at
large
and,
like
I,
said
I
want
to
make
web
3
more
useful
for
Everyday
People
by
making
it
so
that
there
are
d-apps
that
are
more
democratic
and
provide
utility
to
the
median
member
of
humanity
instead
of
just
the
well-moneyed,
and
that
is
what
we're
here
for
at
get
coin
and
Bitcoin
grants.
So
thank
you
for
listening
to
my
rant,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
Kevin
Olson
and
we're
actually
going
to
do
some
code
from
here.
Thank
you.
B
C
I
had
the
pleasure
of
stepping
in
for
a
wakia
tapcon
in
Berlin,
so
I
I
left
giving
that
talk
feeling
like
I
wanted
to
give
this
talk,
which
is
like
what
did
we
actually
build
right,
which
is
hopefully
just
as
exciting
I,
don't
know,
it
is
more
than
one
line
of
code,
though,
and
what
I'm
really
going
to
do
is
try
to
orient
you
all
as
like
future
builders
on
top
of
passport.
How
do
you
use
it?
C
How
do
you
use
it
for
your,
your
apps
or
your
communities
and
really
just
going
to
point
you
at
a
lot
of
resources?
So
this
is
going
to
be
kind
of
a
big
overview
of
what
we've
built
and
why
we've
built
it
the
way
we've
built
it
I
think
that's
kind
of
an
important
thing
and
and
then
how
to
take
that
forward.
C
C
Cool
I'm,
starting
to
see
phones,
go
down
so
I'm
gonna
say
we're
good,
all
right
cool.
So
here's
the
agenda,
we're
gonna,
do
the
Y
passport,
like
what
problem?
Does
it
solve
and
I?
Think
Kevin
did
a
great
job
of
the
big
meta
y?
What
is
passport
who's
currently
using
it
and
then
how
to
do
it
yourself
right?
C
So
why
pass
for
it
right?
Kevin's
talk,
write
the
infinite
game.
You
you
have
these
systems
that
are
vulnerable
to
civil
attacks
right
some
of
the
things
we're
seeing
right
now.
Anything
is
doing
kind
of
voting,
quadratic
funding,
quadratic
voting,
it's
particularly
susceptible
to
this.
You
also
have
communities
that
are
providing
benefits
right
if
you
have
like
some
sort
of
being
you're
paying
gas
fees
on
behalf
of
something
or
you
have
some
poapps
or
or
things
like
this
you're
giving
away
people
Farm
these
things
right.
C
You
get
why
they're
doing
it,
but
ultimately
it's
a
destructive
like
element
in
you
know
the
governance
of
your
your
system
or
the
benefits
not
getting
to
the
right
people
right,
they're,
they're,
they're
distorting
the
effect
of
that,
so
the
high
level
requirements,
so
this
is
so
Kevin
stock
kind
of
give
us
gives
us
the
sort
of
parameters
for
the
design
space
that
we
went
into.
We
want
to
do.
Privacy
preservation
so
like
as
a
first
goal,
we're
not
going
to
dox
anybody
with
passport.
C
This
has
been
a
huge
concern
of
ours
right
so
from
day.
One
our
goal
was
to
make
sure
there
was
no
opportunity
for
us
to
like
leak,
pii
or
anything
like
this,
a
personally
identifiable
information
outside
to
anyone
right.
So
we
don't
store
any
pii
in
the
get
coin
passport.
This
for
sure
you
can
go
check
it
out.
It's
not
there
else.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
test
centralized
right.
We
don't
want
to
be
a
point
of
of
capture
for
the
audience.
We
don't
want
to
be
making.
C
You
know
we
don't
want
to
go
evil,
get
coin
and
make
bad
decisions.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
adaptive
right
so
that
we
can,
in
this
evolutionary
game,
continue
making
improvements.
And,
lastly,
when
we
pluralistic,
we
want
to
invite
a
lot
of
people
into
solving
this
problem
with
us
and
making
sure
that
we're
actually
getting
you
know
the
best
ideas
put
forward.
You
know
forking
our
protocol
or
just
like
adapting
it
for
your
group
right.
We
don't
necessarily
make
our
decisions,
the
ones
that
everyone
has
to
use.
C
So
we've
tried
to
make
this
as
a
real,
like
as
a
toolbox
that
you
can
take
forward
into
your
group.
I
already
did
this.
Maybe
some
of
the
the
details
on
here.
One
of
the
interesting
things
about
capture
is:
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
data
was
fully
public.
We
ended
up
using
the
ceramic
Network
for
that
and
sticking
to
the
Open
Standards
of
dids
and
VCS
keeping
going
here.
C
This
is
the
part
where
I
was
going
to
demo
it,
but
I,
don't
trust
the
the
the
Wi-Fi
so
I'm
gonna
spare
everyone
watching
me.
Wait
for
this
thing
to
load
who's
actually
built
a
Bitcoin
passport
for
donating
to
get
coin
grants
okay.
So
these
are
the
folks
who
participated
in
rounds
14
and
15..
If
you
wanted
your
matching
bonus,
you
went
here
and
did
this
maybe
I'll
just
like
use
your
imagination
and
work
with
me
here.
You
connect
your
wallet.
We
instantly
provision
an
empty
passport
for
you.
C
C
A
web
three
endpoint
we're
just
hitting
a
Json
RPC,
proving
that
your
wallet
address
is
on
that
contract
and
pulling
that
back
and
verifying
it
what's
behind
the
scene
on
all
of
these
things
is
just
a
little
Json
object
right,
that's
what
all
of
Bible
credential
is
and
we're
just
proving
that
we
observed
that
fact.
At
that
point
of
time,
VC
gives
you
the
ability
to
have
like
an
expiration
date.
Things
like
this
so
for
a
period
of
time,
we're
saying
that
we
we've
validated
that
they
had
an
account
at
this
point
in
time.
C
It's
somewhat
static
data.
That's
the
interesting
thing
about
VCS!
It
goes
with
you.
You
can
actually
download
your
passport,
there's
an
ability,
if
you
have
it
on
your
phone.
Do
you
want
to
play
with
this?
You
can
actually
just
pull
down
the
whole
passport
yourself.
It's
just
a
Json
object.
You
can
actually
upload
it.
You
can
kind
of
skip
the
whole
ceramic
thing
if
you
want,
but
we've
chosen
to
use
ceramic
as
the
sort
of
bait
data
layer
to
back
this.
C
Oh
gosh
man
I'm
just
front
running
my
own,
slides
here,
I'm,
so
sorry,
everybody,
one
cool
thing
you
can
do.
This
is
interesting
with
ceramic
and
just
to
kind
of
prove.
The
open
data
thing
go
check
out.
This
Sarah
scan
right
on
Sarah
scan.
It's
like
an
indexer
of
the
ceramic
Network.
You
can
pull
up
every
instance
of
the
passport
schema.
That's
been
filled
right
that
people
have
written
to
there's
60
000
passports
that
have
been
built
right.
People
have
made
many
many
more
stamps.
C
So
behind
that
what's
interesting
is
in
our
last
round
grants
around
15.
We
actually
had
38
000
that
were
submitted
To
Us
by
our
users,
so
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
passports
that
are
getting
built
and
used
externally
I'm
going
to
get
into
that
a
little
bit.
There's
already.
Some
communities
are
starting
to
adopt
this.
C
This
is
a
little
preview
of
what
you
get
to
see.
When
you
go
to
sirscan,
you
can
click
through.
You
can
actually
see
the
raw
data.
It's
it's
super
interesting,
so,
okay,
some
background,
Concepts,
so
I've
kind
of
said
these
things,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you
all
have
the
references
I'll
make
these
slides
available.
There's
a
lot
of
links
in
here
and
I
hope
people
kind
of
use
this
as
a
reference.
You
know
as
they
get
started
so
decentralized
identifiers
who's,
heard
of
that.
C
C
C
Vcs
are
a
really
interesting
spec
because
they're
so
Broad-
and
this
is
actually
some
of
the
criticisms
of
these
specs-
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
interpretation
and
room
to
kind
of
do
whatever
you
want
with
it
VCS
as
we've
used
them
are
really
just
an
attestation
that
we
observe
something.
So
it's
like
the
slimmest
subset
of
that
there's
people
who
are
using
them
for
more
interesting
or
more
data,
Rich
environments,
ceramic
who's,
used
ceramic
or
heard
of
it.
C
Okay,
okay,
I
like
to
say
that
it's
kind
of
a
convenience
layer
on
top
of
ipfs
I,
don't
know.
If
that's,
they
would
all
agree
with
me,
but
it's
a
really
nice
way
to
have
mutable
streams
of
data
that
users
control
right.
So
you
are
the
only
person
with
your
did
that
you
control
that
can
write
into
your
stream
and,
through
some
of
their
libraries,
you
can
grant
access
to
an
app
to
write
into
your
stream.
It's
individually
writable
self-sovereign,
but
it's
totally
open
data
right.
C
So
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
it's
a
really
good
fit
for
these
use
case
is
why
we
chose
it,
but
it's
pretty
unique.
We
don't
have
a
database,
we're
not
storing
any.
You
know
VCS
of
everybody,
it's
all
happening
here
and
you
control
your
stream
as
a
user
of
the
ceramic
Network.
So
we
really
are
relying
on
this.
As
the
data
layer
for
passport,
we
host
a
production,
node
ourself,
which
is
kind
of
interesting.
We
also
host
a
test
net
node.
C
So
if
you're
developing,
this
is
all
in
the
docs
we'll
get
to
that
later,
but
yeah
okay,
Spruce
did
kit.
Everyone
uses
Spruce
same
with
ethereum
yeah
did
kit
is
amazing,
and
this
Bruce
team
is
super.
Nice,
so
is
the
ceramic
team.
Ceramic
team
is
really
really
nice
too.
They
joined
us
for
like
daily
calls
like
during
the
round
right
like
they
were
really
committed
to
making
sure
that
everything
went
well
and
continuing
to
be
really
tight
with
us,
so
Joel,
if
he's
in
the
audience.
C
Thank
you,
you're
awesome
and
then
Rocco
from
Spruce
has
been
awesome
in
helping
us
manage,
did
there's
some
interesting
stuff
later
on
I'm
going
to
get
into
here
too
so
high
level
concept.
So
this
is
the
whole
of
of
what
passport
really
is
right.
So
there's
the
there's,
the
D
app
right,
there's
there's
passport,
which
was
that
screenshot
that
was
going
to
demo,
but
I'm
not
going
to
now.
You
have
ceramic,
which
is
where
all
the
data
actually
sits.
C
You're
using
the
open
data
standards,
which
is
interesting
thing
with
ceramic.
Is
you
have
the
ability
to
Define
schemas,
so
the
data
that's
going
into
ceramic
is
kind
of
being
enforced
at
that
data
layer
that
it's
conformant
to
the
did
in
the
VC
spec
or
the
VC
spec?
Really
right.
So
the
if
you
want
to
write
a
stamp
which
is
a
VC,
you
can
just
use
the
same
model.
The
same
schema
that
we've
published
to
the
ceramic
Network
and
it'll
be
conformant
right.
C
So
you
can't
get
the
sort
of
like
drift
of
of
data
schema
when
you're
relying
on
the
get
coin
passport
stamp
or
the
VC
spec
that
we've
published
there's
a
passport
Authority.
So
this
is
something
we
had
to
build.
We
had
to
build
a
back
end
where
we
issue
the
VCS
from
so
VCS
are
not
necessarily
like
a
first-class
citizen.
Yet
so,
when
we're
observing
these
attestations,
we're
Min
we're
issuing
these
VCS
back
up
to
go
into
your
passport.
C
This
is
kind
of
a
current
point.
Centralization
I'll
get
into
this
a
little
bit
later.
You'll
see
it
in
the
code
base
too
there's
this
IM
server
trust
bonus.
This
is
how,
if
you've
used
passport
to
build
a
trust
bonus
we,
this
is
the
part
where
you
actually
submit
it
to
git
coin.
This
is
the
scoring
piece.
This
is
all
available
inside
the
the
get
coin
web
repo.
You
can
read
how
we
did
it
it's
all
kind
of
in
Python
and
stuff.
C
This
is
a
pretty
detailed,
like
swim,
Lane
of
like
exactly
all
the
calls,
but
if
you
really
wanted
to
get
into
it
and
see
exactly
where,
like
all
of
the
sort
of
sequence
of
like
calls
between
front
and
the
back
you'll
see
it
here,
that
line
that
link
is
live
and
open
feel
free
to
check
it
out
the
passport
SDK
itself.
So
this
is
up
on
bitcoin.
This
is
actually
how
you
can
build
on
top
of
passport
the
most
easily,
so
I'm
gonna
get
a
little
bit
more
into
the.
C
How
a
little
bit
later
current
points
essentially
I
hinted
at
this,
so
the
IM
server
is
where
we're
actually
observing
we're
like
issuing
these
VCS
from
so
you.
If
you
want
to
use
a
score
that
uses
VCS
from
git
coin,
you
have
to
kind
of
white
list
RVC
server,
but
this
allows
anybody
else
to
also
issue
VCS
and
the
scoring
part
of
the
SDK
allows
you
to
decide
which
VC
issuers
you
trust
right.
So
you
give
that
control
kind
of
Downstream.
Anybody
can
write
into
your
passport
if
you
give
them
access
to
it
right.
C
So
if
you're
a
did
holder
and
you
go
to
a
forked
version
of
Bitcoin
a
passport,
you
can
give
access
to
your
stream
to
that
front
end.
They
could
write
into
it.
But
if
they're
not
hitting
our
DC
issue
in
service,
the
they
can't
issue
their
own.
So
where
do
where
do
you
decide
who
to
trust
which
VCS
are
worth
trusting?
It's
at
that
scoring
layer
right
when
you
come
back
around
and
you
actually
see
like
like?
C
What's
in
a
passport,
you
can
see
through
the
the
VC
which
server
issued
that
that
particular
credential
and
then
lastly,
our
score
is
currently
our
point
of
trust
right.
You
have
to
you,
you're
handing
your
passport
to
us
you're
working
within
the
get
coin
ecosystem.
Fine,
you
can
trust
us
in
the
future,
as
people
start
using
other
scores,
you
kind
of
start
making
scores
as
a
service.
C
Things
like
this
they're
going
to
become
a
point
of
trust
right,
you're,
going
to
have
to
rely
on
that
scoring
service
to
you
know
to
to
hand
like
to
be
doing
the
right
thing
with
the
passports
that
you
hand
to
it
right.
So
if
you
don't
want
to
go
to
the
hassle
of
scoring
a
passport
yourself
reading
the
dids
doing
the
scoring,
you
have
to
actually
rely
on
somebody
else.
This
is
kind
of
just
a
maybe
worth
calling
out
okay.
So
what
can
we
do
in
the
future?
C
People
can
build
their
own
IM
servers
and
start
issuing
their
own
VCS.
That's
pretty
straightforward!
You
can
host
your
own
ceramic
node.
You
can
help
us,
especially
when
ceramic
moves
into
this
compose
DB
in
the
future.
I'm
hinting
it
that
again,
I,
don't
think
anyone
from
ceramic
is
here
thinking
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
heard
q1
of
next
year.
C
C
I
said:
I
was
gonna,
go
slower,
but
then
I
started
going
fast,
yeah,
okay,
so
who's
already
doing
this,
so
we
actually
have
a
community
of
people
who
are
kind
of
picking
this
up
and
starting
to
build
on
top
of
it.
Each
Staker
just
popped
into
our
Discord
and
told
us
that
they
built
this,
which
is
super
cool,
so
thanks
Remy.
C
C
They
pop
you
out
to
do
a
little
signing
and
then
you
come
back
around
and
the
bot
runs
through
your
passport
reads:
all
the
data
in
and
gives
you
a
score
and
it
automatically
assigns
you
a
role
in
the
Discord,
so
they
were
having
an
issue
apparently
with
people
getting.
You
know,
multiple
roles
or
bad
roles
and
they
want
to
make
sure
they're
real
people
and
not
Bots
super
use
case,
and
it's
all
available
there
check
out
their
their
GitHub
repo
bankless
Academy
I
didn't
link
this,
but
it's
actually
there.
C
So
if
you
go
to
the
bankless
academy,
GitHub
it's
you
can
even
just
like
search
the
code
for
passport
and
you
can
see
their
implementation.
There.
I
might,
after
the
fact,
drop
a
link
in
this
DDA.
Similarly,
just
like
kind
of
tweeted
this
out
and
then
jumped
in
our
Discord
and
told
us
that
they
built
this,
they
did
some
cool
stuff
too.
Where
so,
this
is
Vanquis.
Academy
is
kind
of
a
rabbit.
C
Hole-Esque
right,
you
go
through
you
complete
some
sort
of
challenges
and
you
get
like
a
like
a
mint
po
app
mint
Kudos
at
the
end,
people
were
farming
this
and
they
needed
some
civil
protection.
What's
really
cool
actually
the
way
they
do.
This
is
because
they're
able
to
read
the
data
in
the
background
you
sign
in
like
with
ethereum,
you
have
like
they
know
your
wallet
address
that
you're
completing
this
challenge,
where
you're
going
to
get
that
that
mint
Kudos
back
to
you.
They
just
in
the
background,
just
go,
read
your
passport.
C
You
already
have
one
like:
they
just
see
what
stamps
and
they
say,
okay,
cool,
good
enough
like
we'll,
let
you
in
we
minted
this
happened
to
me.
I
was
like
it
thought
this
was
live
like
I
thought.
You
know,
like
I,
didn't
see
the
passport
submission
thing,
so
you
don't
actually
have
to
do
this
right.
You
can,
just
in
the
background,
go
look
up
a
passport
and
see
what
stamps
are
on
it
without
any
kind
of
clumsy
flow.
C
C
Other
cool
thing,
too,
is
they're
they're
doing
like
the
caching
and
this
storing
of
duplicate
stamps,
which
is
a
thing
we
we
can
get
into
a
little
bit
here
too,
so
how
to
actually
get
started.
So
the
obvious
place
to
get
started,
go
to
our
docs
docs.passport.getcoin.com,
there's
a
lot
of
like
the
high
level
stuff
all
the
way
through
into
the
SDK
and
really
like
how
to
get
like
through
it.
C
I
think.
One
of
the
most
important
things,
though,
is
actually
decide
like
when
you're
getting
into
like
how
to
use
the
sdks
like
what
you're
really
doing
with
it
right
and
a
lot
of
this
comes
down
to
like
gating
of
a
benefit
or
a
community.
We're
also
seeing
some
people
who
have
like
interesting
identity
signals
right.
We've
had
some
people
who
have
you
know
like
like
a
kyc
service,
or
they
have
like
gitpo
app
just
reached
out
and
just
built
their
own
right.
They're
like
this
is
a
cool
thing.
C
It
should
be
a
stamp,
it
should
be
in
your
passport.
You
can
build
interesting
scoring
mechanisms.
Maybe
you
have
some
thoughts
on
what
is
a
really
good?
You
know
cost
of
forgery
or
scoring
or
personhood
build
it
right,
like
all
of
these
things
are
there
and
the
raw
materials
are
there
in
the
toolbox
in
the
SDK,
I
think
I've
kind
of
beat
this
up
a
little
bit,
but
the
basic
thing:
this
is
the
trust
bonus,
page
I,
think
you'll
you'll
see.
C
This
is
how
we
gate
our
community
in
service,
adding
a
stamp
get
po
app.
This
is
a
pull
request
that
they
submitted
right
here
for
how
to
build
a
stamp
this
again
as
it's
a
moving
Target
we're
going
to
continuing
improving
the
code
base,
but
right
now
this
is
a
great
way
to
get
started
to
see
exactly
how
to
like
add
a
stamp.
You
can
take
that
PR
move
it
forward.
C
We
actually
have
a
library
of
other
PRS
in
our
docs
of
like
where
we've
added
other
different
kinds
of
stamps,
so
you
can
look
to
see.
You
know
how
your
your
currently
flow
might
map
Best,
Discord
I
think
we've
seen
this,
but
this
is
actually
the
Discord
as
the
stamps.
This
is
another
example.
I
wanted
to
highlight
this
one's
not
like
a
like
a
this,
this
one's
non-chain
verification.
This
one
is
not
right,
so
you
have
kind
of
these
different
flows.
I
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight.
C
This
was
a
video
that
got
submitted
to
our
hackathon,
which
is
just
great
I
hope
it
doesn't
play
okay,
it's
a
great
walkthrough.
If
you
really
just
you
need
to
like
the
walkthrough,
and
you
want
to
watch
someone
like
actually
code
through
a
full
implementation
of
the
SDK
Rask
is
that
username
did
a
great
job
and
I
think
actually
won
our
hackathon
with
this
video.
So
it's
it's
top-notch
then.
Lastly,
if
you
do
build
something,
tell
us
about
it.
C
C
B
C
Then
Alpha
alert
Kevin
do
you
know
we
had
an
API?
This
is
super
cool.
So
when,
when
I
mentioned
that
we
have
this
kind
of
like
centralized,
you
submit
your
passport
to
to
git
coin
and
we
do
all
this
stuff
and
we
give
you
back
this
magical
trust
bonus.
We've
busted
this
out
as
an
API.
Now,
so
you
actually
can
hit.
This
is
the
Swagger
UI
link,
but
the
the
API
is
the
same
path
there
score.dpop
the
the
what's
neat
about
this.
Is
you?
C
Can
you
can
actually
post
like
a
full
passport
to
this,
and
then
you
can
read
off
different
kinds
of
scores,
so
we
actually
have
like
a
weighted
score,
which
is
what
ships
with
the
SDK.
So
you
can
set
up
kind
of
a
set
of
Weights,
this
kind
of
alludes
to
Kevin's
cost
of
forgery.
We
also
have
this
thing
called
Apu,
which
is
like
this
fingerprinting
service.
C
We
actually
use
for
gr15,
which
takes
like
a
cohort
of
passports,
have
been
submitted
to
us
and
we
find
the
median
value
of
uniqueness,
and
you
can
kind
of
treat
that
as
like
you
know
below
that
threshold
might
be.
Maybe
not
so
trustworthy
above
that
threshold
is
trustworthy,
assuming
you
have
kind
of
a
gaussian
distribution
of
of
users,
so
the
Apu
score
is
kind
of
an
interesting
one.
Different
kind
of
scores
available
we're
going
to
make
this
more
fully
featured,
but
this
is
like
literally
shipped
last
week,
very
like
there's
no
docs
on
this.
C
This
is
the
dock
for
y'all,
but
we're
going
to
keep
improving
that
and
making
sure
this
becomes
like
a
real
like
an
easy
way
to
start
interacting
with
passport
without
having
to
go
through
necessarily
hitting
ceramic
and
reading
it.
If
you
don't
want
to
right,
you
just
have
this
as
a
way,
but
we
are
storing
off
these
these
hashes
and
things
like
that
for
it
and
then
in
the
future.
C
This
is
like
the
the
thing
we
recently
just
spent
some
time
on
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
the
team's
looking
at
how
to
actually
bring
scoring
on
chains.
So
one
of
the
things
you're
going
to
run
into
if
you're,
really
trying
to
like
enforce
a
certain
score
to
interact
with
the
contract,
is
you're
going
to
need
to
bring
this
on
chain.
C
So
we're
going
to
need
this
for
Grant's
protocol
as
we
go,
live
your
votes
and
things
like
that
and
your
passport
will
need
to
be
actually
interacting
with
voting
contracts,
so
we
needed
ourselves
and
I
think
other
people
will
too
all
right
and
that's
it.
So
maybe
we
look
at
that
slido
for
some
questions.
C
C
This
is
a
great
question.
I
mean
I.
Think
the
real
answer
here
is
well.
Okay,
two
answers:
you
can
use
Macy
right
like
minimal
anti
collusion
infrastructure
and
you
can
make
it
impossible
to
verify
who
voted
for
what?
In
a
particular,
you
know
context.
This
is
what
CLR
fund's
done
and
we've
been
looking
at
this
ourselves
actually
for
some
of
our
Partnerships
with
optimism.
C
It's
it's
at
the
root
level,
making
it
impossible.
So
so
Kevin
gave
me
50
bucks
for
my
identity.
I
could
take
the
50
bucks
and
then
devote.
However,
I
want
there's
no
way
for
him
to
prove
it.
This
is
the
kind
of
concept
behind
Macy,
so
you
can
have
the
secret
ballot
as
the
way
to
protect
people.
From
being
able
to
you
know,
the
economic
reward
is
impossible
to
validate
right
for
the
the
people
who
are
trying
to
bribe
I.
Think
more
legitimate
forms
of
collusion
would
be
me
and
Kevin.
C
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
similar
ideas.
We
share
a
name.
We
might
just
vote
really.
Similarly,
on
things
right,
we
actually
belong
to
a
community
right.
This
is
really
what
like
the
dsoc
paper
that
came
out
from
Glenn,
vitalik
and
Puja
is
really
talking
about.
How
do
you
identify
communities
and
how
do
you
reward
cross
community?
You
know
like
pluralistic
consent
or
not
consent.
Sorry,
what's
a
agreement
or
sort
of
like
signals
between
communities,
I
think
in
this
environment.
C
A
So
it's
a
way
of
kind
of
algorithmically
waiting
things
that
that
are
attractive
across
social
distance
higher.
So
it's
actually
an
early
implementation
of
the
dsoc
idea,
but
yeah
I
mean
I'd,
say
that,
like
passports,
even
still
in
its
early
Alpha
days
and
we're
really
focused
on
civil
resistance
and
then
I
think
collusion
resistance
is
is
kind
of
another
Horizon.
On
top
of
that,
and
hopefully
we'll
get
there.
C
Cool,
so
the
next
question
here
is
the
scoring
and
GTC
passport.
Is
it
arbitrary
and
how
was
it
defined
so
I
mentioned
for
gr15
scoring?
Was
this
Apu
score,
which
came
out
of
like
some
of
the
data
science
work
that
was
done
from
our
fraud
and
defense
team?
So
that's
very
like
specific
to
the
community
of
Bitcoin
right.
It
may
not
work
for
your
environment
and
we
encourage
you
to
build
your
own
weighted
score.
If
you
look
at
the
scoring
SDK,
what
you
basically
can
do
is
Define
all
the
stamps
you
care
about.
C
You
can
Define
which
VC
issuers
you
care
about,
and
then
you
can
Define
weights
based
on
those
that's
the
sort
of
like
dead,
simple
way
of
doing
this,
like
I,
think
Twitter's
worth
one
point.
I
think
bright.
Id
is
worth
20
points
and
you
can
create
an
aggregate
score
and
a
threshold,
and
that's
why
a
lot
of
communities
I
think
think
about
doing
this
kind
of
thing.
C
You
could
go
beyond
that,
obviously,
and
start
storing
these
things
and
doing
machine
learning
against
them
and
do
some
really
interesting
stuff
there.
But
at
the
basic
thing
the
scoring
is
like
I
mentioned
for
our
community
has
been
this
kind
of
initial
weighted
scoring.
We
moved
into
this
more
like
ml
sort
of
data
science
approach
and
then
in
the
future.
You
know
we're
going
to
keep
iterating
on
that,
but
you
have
no
limits
to
how
you
want
to
build
your
score
cool.
C
Can
you
give
insights
on
how
to
make
passport
compatible
with
other
chains,
evm
and
non-avm,
looking
to
Technic
to
Architectural
Components,
so
right
now,
there's
not
a
way
to
bridge
it
on
chain.
That's
like
work
in
progress,
that's
that
was
the
thing.
I
was
mentioning
at
the
very
end
there.
So
what
you
really
are
looking
at
is
your
interactions
from
the
from
the
D
app
like.
Do
you
trust
this
interface
that
people
are
interacting
with
and
then
you
would
use
that
as
sort
of
your
gating
mechanism
right.
C
So
if
somebody
has
the
ability
to
access
that,
that
doesn't
mean
you
can
protect
things
at
the
Smart
contract
interaction
level.
This
is
why
we
need
to
bring
it
there.
But
if
you
have
a
back
end,
you
can
certainly
like
protect
yourself.
That
way,
right
you
can
you
can
you
can
validate
that
the
front
end
is
not
being
sort
of
man
in
the
middle
and
you're
getting
a
valid
passport
score
back.
You
can
use
your
back
end
like
Bank
list
did
where,
in
the
background
they
just
Reach
Out
grab
the
passport.
C
B
A
Thanks
for
listening,
this
room
is
booked
in
I.
Think
10
minutes
so
just
to
be
respectful
to
the
next
presenter.
Olson
and
I
are
gonna,
go
outside
and
happy
to
take
more
questions
on
the
lobby,
but
go
to
passport.getcoin.com.
If
you
want
to
check
out
the
code
and
thank
you
for
helping
us
build
a
more
democratic
web
free
peace.