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A
B
B
Generative
and
interactive
comments-
and
a
lot
of
this
will
be
informed
by
a
group
that
that
I
am
part
of
called
kernel
and
I.
Guess
just
for
just
to
start.
Can
we
have
a
show
of
hands
for
people
here
who
know
about
kernel
cool
yeah?
It's
good
to
see
a
lot
of
the
colonel
fellows
here
as
well,
and
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
what
Colonel
is
Colonel
is
a
webp
fellowship.
B
It
started
out
around
June,
July,
2020,
I
started
by
Vivek
and
Andy,
and
the
initial
format
of
Kernel
was.
It
was
100
builders
in
the
webpage
space
discussing
discussing
what
we
need
to
build
in
web3.
A
lot
of
web
2,
we
feel
has
been,
has
been
largely
influenced
by
the
technology
and
not
the
I.
Guess
not
the
Arts,
not
not
the
sciences
and
the
philosophy.
So
Colonel
tries
to
get
a
lot
of
people
to
discuss
what
it
is.
B
We
really
need
to
build
and-
and
today
we're
the
hope
is
we
we
get
together
and
discuss.
B
What
does
it
mean
to
build
a
more
regenerative
and
interactive
Commons
and
a
lot
of
how
we
do
it
in
kernel
is
through
discussion
through
workshops
like
this
one,
that
we
hope
you
guys
will
be
able
to
to
take
fully
part
of
it's
a
it's
gonna,
be
a
format
that
we
call
ajunto,
wherein
we
get
groups
of
people
to
discuss,
sub
subjects
that
are
relevant
to
crypto,
but
at
pretty
deep
I
would
say
and
not
focused
on
a
lot
of
what
we're
mostly
used
to
talking
about
in
a
very,
very
crypto
focused
conference.
B
So
maybe
I
can
start
with
what
was
listed
down
there
in
the
workshop
agenda.
The
concept
of
comments
is
not
that
of
a
resource.
A
comments
comes
from
a
different
way
of
being
in
the
world
where
it
is
not
production
which
counts,
but
bodily
use
established
by
Customs.
So
the
hope
today
is
we
kind
of
explore
those
ideas
and
we'll
be
using
some
guide
questions
that
that
will
hopefully
guide
the
discussions
and
yeah
looking
forward
to
having
a
fruitful
discussion
with
you
all.
B
But
before
we
start
some
of
the
kernel
fellows
are
here
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
I
guess
form
a
good
group
among
each
of
the
tables.
So
maybe
I
can
request
you
guys
to
form
groups
of
of
three
to
four
for
each
table.
So
the
hope
is
the
Hope,
also
maybe
for
the
next
Slide.
The
hope
more
so
than
discussing
this
is
also
Colonel
is
really
all
about
making
relationships
and
learning
more
with
friends
here
in
here
in
web3.
B
So
let's
form
groups
of
three
and
four
some
of
the
guides
will
help
facilitate
and
and
if
you
can
try
and
form
groups,
I
guess
with
people
that
that
you
don't
know
yet,
because
the
hope
is
we
we
get
to
get
introduced
to
more
people,
so
so
yeah.
So
maybe
we
can
take
a
few
minutes
to
to
organize
ourselves.
D
B
All
right
looks
good,
so
hope
you
are
getting
comfortable
with
the
folks
on
your
table.
Try
to
introduce
yourselves
to
each
other,
because
we're
gonna
be
talking
about
some
get.
Some
pretty
deep
topics
in
the
context
of
F3
and
again
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
in
these
15
minutes
we
hope
the
hope
is.
We
have
fun
make
a
friend.
One
of
the
core
principles
of
Colonel
is
to
has
to
be
subversive,
to
subvert
the
status
quo
and
have
fun
so
so
yeah,
just
and
and
and
just
to
go
back.
B
B
All
right,
so
the
hope
for
today
is
we're.
Gonna
have
perhaps
two
juntos.
A
junto
is,
as
I
mentioned,
a
group
discussion
where
we
try
to
discuss
a
topic
in
web
3
or
a
topic
that
is
kind
of
similar
or
I
guess,
a
topic
that
is
adjacent
to
a
tree
and,
in
our
case
the
first
juneto
that
we'll
be
holding
is
about
trust.
So
in
kernel
this
is
kind
of
how
we
introduce
Colonel.
Fellows
trust
is
something
that
we
hear
about
a
lot
in
blockchain.
B
It's
about
trustless
systems,
it's
about
building
transactions
and
building
trust
around
these
transactions.
But
one
thing
we
can
kind
of
try
and
explore
is
what
does
trust
mean
in
the
context
outside
of
crypto?
So
what
is
trust?
What
what
would
a
world
without
trust
be?
Would
it
be
richer
or
poorer?
B
And
so
this
leads
to
I
guess
our
first
junto
and
the
hope
is
we
get
all
of
you
guys
to
to
think
about
trust
and
in
groups
of
three
and
four
tell
a
story
not
related
to
crypto
about
a
moment
where
trust
grew
in
your
world.
So
a
lot
of
us
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
trust
in
the
concept
of
blockchain
transaction.
So
let's
try
to
flip
that
a
little
bit.
B
Who
do
you
trust
and
why
and
then
tell
a
story
about
a
moment
where
trust
grew
in
your
world.
So
some
of
the
colonel
fellows
are
part
of
your
group,
so
they'll
be
facilitating
some
of
these
discussions
and.
E
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
A
A
A
B
Thank
you
everyone.
So
let's
keep
the
discussions
moving.
What
I
hope
like
that,
that
this
exploration
of
trust
for
for
everyone
is
kind
of
given
you
like
some
other
threats
to
pull
around
trust
when
we
talk
about
trust
in
web3,
a
lot
of
it,
as
I
mentioned,
is
informed
about
the
blockchain
about
trustless
protocols.
B
But
if
we're
going
to
be
building
an
interactive
and
regenerative
Commons
I
think
there's
going
to
be
more
to
that
than
just
the
just
the
technology.
It's
not
it's
going
to
be
about
conversations.
It's
going
to
be
about
the
communities
that
we're
building
these
for
and
I
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
around
this
game
by
Nikki
case.
B
If
just
do
a
search
for
the
game
of
trust
by
Nicki
case-
and
this
is
one
I-
would
say-
one
very,
very
wonderful,
internet
artifact
to
kind
of
get
you
to
understand
more
about
trust
and
what
happens
in
that
game?
Is
you
play
the
game
and
you
you
realize
that
trust
is.
B
It
has
many
facets,
like
sometimes
the
story
there
is
that
during
the
world
during
World
War
One,
there
is
an
event
where,
where
a
ceasefire
happened-
and
that
was
mostly
because
because
people
were
already
in
close
proximity
with
each
with
each
other,
even
though
they
were
like
on
different
sides
of
the
war
and
and
that
kind
of
gives
you
a
different
look
into
how
distrust
less
or
trustful
systems
are
built
so
and
within
Nikki
cases,
video
or
a
game
essay,
he
says
that
what
what
or
she
says
that
what
builds
trust
is
repeat,
interactions
possible,
win,
wins
and
low
miscommunication.
B
So
so,
when
we
think
of
trust
in
the
context
of
web3,
is
there
any
space
for
what
we're
building
to
do
this
as
well?
Are
there
are
other
communities
that
were
building
these
systems
for
and
kind
of,
making
sure
that
we're
making
pro-social
systems
to
be
able
to
build
better
trust
around
the
commas
in
the
communities
that
we're
building
all
right?
So
let's
continue
on
I
think
now
that
we
got
a
hang
of
how
to
do
these
juntos.
B
Let's
do
one
more
and
the
next
one
is
more
around
Customs
around
community
and
Commons
I
know
when
we
talk
about
comments,
it's
a
term
that
has
I
guess
a
lot
of
different
meanings
as
well
aside
from
trust
and
in
kernel.
One
thing
that
we
also
think
of
is
we
feel
that
web3
and
the
technology
that
is
given
to
us
by
ethereum
and
all
these
other
protocols
is
we're
able
to
build
new
communities
or
a
rather
old
communities
in
future
form.
So
a
lot
of
communities
have
Customs.
B
A
lot
of
comments
have
rituals
that
we
do
and
that
kind
of
defines
how
these
comments
and
how
these
communities
form
and
how
we
design
the
systems
that
that
we
do
unintended
outcome
for
so
the
discussion
for
the
next
for
the
next
junto
is
what
are
your
favorite,
Customs
or
rituals,
and
what
customers
might
have
noticed
here
in
Bogota
for
that
last
few
days,
you've
been
here
or
if
you're,
a
local,
tell
tell
all
of
us
what
Customs
are
are
nice
in
Bogota,
so
this
may
be
religious,
secular,
cultural
or
otherwise,
a
custom.
B
A
A
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
G
H
B
All
right,
I'm,
sorry
I
have
to
stop
the
conversations,
but
we
we
need
to
move
on
and
I
hope.
You
were
able
to
know
more
about
some
customs
that
you
don't
know
about
some
different
perspectives
on
how
to
build
communities
and
how
communities
are
built
around
these
customs
and
I
want
to
take
a
few
seconds
to
talk
about
this
as
well
so
I
mentioned
Colonel.
A
lot
of
the
thinking
in
kernel
is
not
just
on
the
technological
side.
B
Institutions
are
functional
when
they
promote
a
delicate
balance
between
what
people
can
do
for
themselves
and
what
tools
at
the
service
of
anonymous
institutions
can
do
for
them.
So
a
lot
of
these
comments,
sometimes
we
feel
like
we're
just
building
them
right
now,
but
a
lot
of
the
great
sociologists
a
lot
of
the
people
like
James
cars
who
talks
about
infinite
games.
We
hear
about
some
other
things,
also
like
ecosystems,
by
EO
Wilson,
so
there's
so
much
knowledge
that
we
can
take
from
from
what
people
have
been
building.
B
There's
a
lot
of
knowledge
in
the
Indigenous
systems
as
well,
for
example
that
that
we
frankly
don't
take
the
time
to
take
a
look
at
the
complementary
opposite
of
scarcity.
For
example,
is
abundance.
It's
not
abundance
ladder.
It
is
reciprocity
when
we
and
scarcity
is,
is
something
that
a
lot
of
us
really
focus
around
in
web
3,
like
virtual
scarcity,
artificial
scarcity,
so
think
of
that
term.
B
Think
of
what
that
means
in
the
context
of
not
just
crypto,
but
in
the
things
that
we're
building,
then
we
might
get
a
more
complete
I
guess,
understanding
of
the
the
Commerce
that
we
aspire
to
build.
So
a
Commerce
is
a
space
which
is
established
by
custom.
We
must
consider
the
reciprocity
based
custom
we
might
create
in
our
new
web
tree
contexts.
So
we
have
around
10
to
13
minutes
and
I
want
I,
guess
I
want
us
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
and
try
to
do
this.
Last
junto.
B
We
have
just
a
quick
amount
of
time,
but
maybe
we
can
rush
through
it,
and
this
is
also
one
of
the
topics
that
we
discuss
very
deeply
in
kernel.
Is
it's
about
gifts
and
gifting,
a
lot
of
the
indigenous
economies
I
mentioned
earlier.
A
lot
of
them
have
gift
economies
where
it's
not
about
scarcity,
but
about
abundance.
So
maybe
it's
worth
exploring
what
that
term
means
to
all
of
us.
What
is
a
gift
so
so
in
our
groups
discuss
what
is
the
best
gift
you've
ever
given
or
one
that
you've
ever
received
and
yeah.
A
A
A
J
And,
depending
which
perspective
you
aligning
with
the
most
you'll,
have
different
intuitions
about
what
our
community
should
be
really
about
the
financial
system.
Then
you
probably
imagine
you
know
financial
institutions
Traders,
like
friendly
providers
and
maybe
even
Regulators,
just
decentralized
for
modeling.
A
A
A
B
B
For
cutting
the
conversations,
but
we're
almost
at
time
but
I
I
hope
that
you
guys
have
been
able
to
connect
with
the
folks
in
your
group
and
maybe
maybe
just
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
Also
to
thank
everyone
to
who
participated
in
the
conversations
and
I'll
spend
a
few
more
slides
just
to
close
everything
out.
B
B
Earlier
about
reciprocity
and
gifting
I
think
that's
something
that's
not
covered
at
all
in
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
conversations
that
you'll
probably
hear
in
crypto
conferences.
Giving
and
receiving
well
are
features
of
a
healthy
human
and
Upstream
a
healthy
ecosystem.
So
we
can
kind
of
think
about
the
comments
that
we're
building
and
kind
of
look
at
it
from
that
lens
right.
B
It's
gifting,
a
part
of
the
ecosystems
that
you
are
building
or
that
you
are
part
of,
and
what
would
it
mean
to
kind
of
give
really
and
the
one
one
story
I
remember
from
vitalik
was
the
the
reason
that
he
got
into
ethereum
was
he.
He
wrote
something
on
bitcoin
and
someone
gifted
him
Bitcoin
and
that
was
kind
of
what
spurred
ethereum
and
that's.
B
Why
we're
all
here
so
gifting
might
be
the
spark
that
leads
to
something
really
really
wonderful
and
and
yeah,
and
just
to
recap
we
talked
about
trust,
about
comments
and
gifting,
giving
and
receiving
will,
and
it
was
all
just
a
long-winded
way,
I
guess
to
to
hope
that
you
guys
make
friends
in
the
last
50
minutes.
B
Maybe
someone
to
go
around
Bogota,
while
you're,
here
and
and
yeah
and
I
guess
I
just
also
want
to
end
with
a
quote
that
I
just
recently
knew
of
because
of
the
people
talking
in
Colonel,
and
this
was
by
by
EO
Wilson
EO
Wilson,
just
recently
passed
this
December
and
before
then
he
was
I.
Guess
one
of
the
Giants
in
Social
biology
and
someone
asked
him
like
how
in
in
just
a
few
sentence,
how
would
you
describe
what
sociobiology
is
and
he
says,
is:
selfishness
beats,
altruism
within
groups.
B
Altruistic
groups
beat
selfish
groups,
everything
else
is
commentary
and
he
kind
of
got
that
from
Rabbi
hildel's
interpretation
when
he
was
asked
what
the
meaning
of
the
Torah,
which
was
what
is
hateful
to
you,
do
not
do
to
your
neighbor
neighbor.
Everything
else
is
commentary,
so
I
guess
it's
worth
thinking
of
that
at
the
Golden
Rule
right
for
some
first
principles
are
sometimes
things
that
we
forgot
forget
in
our
fast
moving
life.
So
the
hope
is
this
slow
down
this
conversation
with
other
people
has
given
you
a
glimpse
into
what
it
would
be.
B
A
A
I
K
A
A
K
K
K
This
Workshop
will
be
about
25
minutes
of
me
talking
about
the
infinite
game
of
civil
resistance
and
then
we're
going
to
actually
get
into
some
code
and
take
a
look
at
Bitcoin
passport,
which
is
a
money
Lego
for
building
more
civil
resistance
from
there
so
find
a
seat,
and
we
will
we'll
get
going
so
again,
I'm
playing
the
role
of
Storyteller
in
this
room.
K
Kevin
Olson
is
our
engineering
lead
at
coindao
and
is
going
to
be
talking
about
the
passport
money
Lego
and
how
you
can
use
it
to
create
civil
resistance,
and
we
also
have
an
appearance
by
Kevin
McAllister,
who
is
another
Kevin,
a
very
Kevin
heavy
lineup
in
the
tie-in
with
Kevin
McAllister?
Is
that
he's
actually
also
in
an
infinite
game
between
adversaries,
robbers
that
are
trying
to
rob
his
house
and
he
is
trying
to
prevent
it.
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
civil
resistance
through
the
allegory
of
Home
Alone
in
home
alone
2..
K
So
the
agenda
for
this
talk
is
why
civil
resistance
is
an
important
problem
to
resent
to
to
address
we're
going
to
characterize
the
Civil
resistance
problem
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
civil
resistance
money
Lego.
So
just
very
briefly,
civil
resistance
is
just
basically.
How
do
you
prevent
sock
puppet
accounts
in
your
web3
based
system?
How
do
you
create
more
one
human
one
vote
based
systems
in
the
web?
Three
in
this
room,
we
are
are
all
physical
humans
and
it's
pretty
clear
that
there's
one
human
per
chair
unless
we're
getting
weird.
K
If
the
session
gets
packed
but
online,
it's
actually
really
hard
to
tell
that.
You've
got
a
one
human
one
boat
system,
and
that
is
what
civil
resistance
is
about.
So
maybe
I'll
start
with
a
quick
crowd
engagement.
How
many
people
have
used
Bitcoin
grants
all
right,
just
a
pulse
check,
but
I'm
really
proud
that
get
going.
Grants
has
supported
so
much
public
goods
funding
in
the
ethereum
ecosystem
and
is
the
magic
of
quadratic
funding.
K
The
way
qf
works
is
that
every
quarter
on
git
coin
there's
three
million
dollars
worth
of
matching
and
we
distributed
contemporaneously,
which
is
just
a
fancy
word
for
at
the
same
time
as
a
crowdfunding
campaign
and
with
quadratic
funding.
If
more
people
contribute
to
your
Grant,
then
you
will
get
more
funding
from
the
matching
pool.
So
in
this
example,
both
grants
get
ten
dollars,
but
Grant
get
one
gets
way
more
of
the
matching
pool
because
it
has
more
identities
associated
with
it.
And
what
what's
really
cool
is
this?
K
This
gets
you
off
your
bum
in
order
to
contribute
to
public
goods,
because
now
a
dollar
worth
of
impact
can
have
a
hundred
dollar.
A
dollar
donation
can
be
worth
a
hundred
dollars
worth
of
impact,
or
a
ten
dollar
donation
can
be
worth
a
thousand
dollars
worth
of
impact.
There
was
a
threat
during
kick
going:
grandparent
13,
where
a
one
dollar
donation
to
coin
Center,
which
is
a
grant
that
which
is
a
project
that
does
lobbying
in
DC
a
one
dollar
donation
to
a
coin.
K
Center
would
give
a
thousand
dollars
worth
of
impact,
and
people
thought
it
was
a
scam,
because
the
matching
multiple
was
so
high.
That's
how
powerful
quadratic
funding
is,
and
if
you
look
at
it
at
a
systemic
level,
we
hit
the
meme
number
69
million
dollars
worth
of
funding
of
for
public
goods
on
bitcoin.
If
you
look
at
a
systemic
level,
the
contribution
graph
at
Bitcoin
grants
is
what
I'm
most
proud
of.
K
So
this
is
every
Edge
in
the
network
is
a
transaction
and
every
node
is
a
user
or
a
grant,
and
if
you
map
this
out
you're
kind
of
coming
up
with
a
mesh
network
of
the
preferences
of
the
ethereum
community,
in
which
public
goods
that
they
want
to
fund
so
from
up
and
coming
projects
like
uniswap
and
urine
that
are
that
are
that
are
up
and
coming
projects
in
the
ecosystem
or
just
pure
public
goods
like
Prismatic
and
Lighthouse.
K
Those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
have
been
funded
on
bitcoin
grants
and
it
is
the
goal
of
Bitcoin
grants
to
build
a
channel
for
greater
combinations
of
strength
and
intelligence
to
come
together
using
quadratic
funding
to
measure
the
preferences
of
its
Community.
But
there
is
a
problem:
not
everything
is
great
in
Bitcoin
land
and
it's
the
Civil
attackers,
so
Grant
number
two
when
they
realize
they're
getting
jipped
by
the
funding
can
just
make
up
more
identities
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
they
get
all
the
magic
Bull,
and
that
is
the
Civil
resistance
problem.
K
If
you're
me
and
you're
the
founder
of
get
coin,
then
you
start
to
realize
that
Bitcoin
kind
of
looks
like
a
Castle
in
the
Sky
Bitcoin
depends
on
bitcoin
grants,
which
depends
on
quadratic
funding,
which
depends
on
civil
resistance,
and
there
is
no
good
money
Lego
for
civil
resistance,
so
I
did
not
choose
this
problem.
This
this
problem
chose
me,
but
here
we
are
public.
Goods
are
good
and
important
and
we
are
trying
to
solve
the
Civil
resistance
problem
at
Bitcoin,
but
the
vision
is
larger
than
Bitcoin.
What?
If
we
could
build
a
money?
K
Lego
for
civil
resistance,
we
could
go
from
plutocratic
systems
dominated
by
tokens
and
capital
to
one
human
one
vote
systems
that
are
dominated
by
people
and
I
just
want
to
camp
on
this
point
for
a
little
bit,
because
if
we
want
web3
to
go
mainstream,
it
can't
just
be
targeted
at
rich
people
forever.
It
needs
to
be
targeted
at
everyday
people
whose
Financial
lives
are
their
jobs
in
their
community
and
not
just
the
Investments
that
they're
making
in
the
s
p
500.
K
there
you
go
so
one
human
one
vote
is
good,
and
so
we've
used
civil
resistance
as
this,
this
sort
of
prism
that
if
we
can
solve
for
civil
resistance,
then
not
only
can
we
build
quadratic
funding.
We
can
build
quadratic
voting.
We
can
build
Genie
coefficient
measurements,
there's
basically
measurements
of
inequality.
In
these
systems.
We
can
build
Ubi
based
systems,
we
can
do
one
person,
one
vote,
Dallas
or
better,
better
air
drops
in
general.
We
can
build
data
collectives
and
and
build
more
human-centric
dials
from
there.
K
So
that's
the
importance
of
civil
resistance.
Why
it's
an
important
problem
to
address
and
I'm
going
to
spend
the
next
part
of
The
Talk
characterizing
The
Civil
resistance
game,
as
I've
seen
during
the
last
15
rounds
at
Bitcoin,
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
a
civil
resistance
money,
Lego
preview,
it's
called
Bitcoin
passport
and
it's
how
we're
trying
to
at
least
Advance
civil
resistance
in
the
ecosystem.
K
So,
let's
start
by
meeting
our
adversaries.
This
is
my
fun.
This
is
like,
where
I
just
get
to
have
fun
during
the
talk
script.
Kitties
I
know
this
guy,
because
I
used
to
be
one
of
them
when
I
was
14
and
I
would
just
download
script
off
the
internet
and
hack
into
stuff,
and
it's
just
the
script.
Kidney
Persona
is
just
kind
of
like
someone
who's
copying
the
scripts
in
the
hacks
that
other
people
are
putting
out
there.
K
They
don't
have
any
real
skill
or
ambition
they're,
just
kind
of
looking
for
the
cheapest
way
to
to
make
a
buck
online.
One
level
above
the
script
Kitty
in
the
level
of
sophistication
in
planning.
Is
you
got
your
petty
criminals?
Maybe
these
people
are
able
to
run
a
little
bit
more
of
a
sophisticated
operation.
They
have
a
little
bit
more
Capital
to
dedicate
to
civil,
attacking
your
system,
but
they're
still
not
really
producing
their
own
software
or
or
ecosystem.
K
In
order
to
do
it
and
I
don't
want
to
only
have
this
talk
about
civil
attacks
on
a
moral
Vector,
because
I
think
there's
a
rational
economic
reason
to
attack
the
get-going
grants,
matching
pool
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
wise
for
us
as
people
who
are
building
civil
resistance
to
moralize
this
too
much.
K
It
could
just
be
a
rational
economic
person,
who's
kind
of
struggling
that
wants
to
make
a
quick
buck
and
I
think
that
that's
an
actor
that
we
have
to
plan
for
too
all
right,
this
one's
just
this
one's
just
a
cheap
shot.
K
So
the
story
behind
this
slide
is
that
there
was
a
salon
on
D5
Dev
that
made
his
protocol
look
more
active
by
just
making
up
personas,
and
these
are
some
of
the
memes
that
came
off
of
Twitter
from
that
organized
crime.
So,
basically
you
got
your
mafias.
You
got
your
state
sponsors
hacking
groups.
These
are
the
kind
of
people
who
can
develop
zero
days
and
can
attack
not
only
Bitcoin
grants
but
can
attack
the
entire
ethereum
ecosystem.
K
When
I
talked
to
Danny,
Ryan
and
I
about
the
merge,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
like
the
software
supply
chain
that
underpins
the
merge
like
Linux
and
all
the
software.
Libraries
that
are
underneath
that
the
firmware
supply
chain
and
organized
crime
is
sophisticated
scary,
because
they're
sophisticated
enough
to
develop
hacks
in
zero
days
for
your
entire
software
supply
chain
and
then
above
that,
you've
got
your
nation
states.
You've
got
your
North
Korea's.
You've
got
your
adversarial
cyber
security
sort
of
attackers
and
these
people
you
know
like.
K
Basically,
if
you
think
that
all
Warfare
is
going
online
in
the
future,
then
Bitcoin
grants
and
ethereum
can
just
be
collateral.
Warfare
in
or
collateral
damage
in
the
nation
state
Warfare
game.
So
those
are
our
adversaries,
or
at
least
a
good
swath
of
those
adversaries,
and
now
that
we
have
identified
those
adversaries,
both
in
theory
and
on
bitcoin
grants,
we
can
characterize
the
Civil
resistance
game
and
the
first
criteria
or
I
guess
the
zeroth
criteria
since
we're
developers.
Here
and
we're
zero
offsetting,
our
our
nature
is
an
adversarial
nature.
K
There's
a
zero-sum
game
between
the
Civil
attackers
on
bitcoin
and
the
Civil
Defenders,
who
want
to
defend
the
matching
pool
kind
of
like
Harrison,
Ford
and
Indiana
Jones
I
may
be
dating
myself
in
ethereum
ecosystem.
It's
all
gen
Z,
but
for
us
Millennials,
Harrison
Ford,
trying
to
capture
this
golden
trophy
I
think
was
pretty
cool
or
I'd
like
to
invite
another
Kevin
to
the
stage
and
that's
Kevin
McAllister
who's,
trying
to
defend
his
home
from
an
adversary
that
wants
to
get
in
and
I
think
steal.
K
His
presence
I'm
not
actually
really
sure
what
the
the
criminals
in
in
the
Home
Alone
were
after,
but
there's
some
hilarious
results
from
that.
So
there's
an
adversary,
nature,
adversarial
nature
to
the
Civil
resistance
game
on
bitcoin
and
I
want
to
note
that
not
all
adversaries
are
motivated
by
the
exact
same
thing.
You've
got
basically
varying
levels
of
sophistication
in
your
adversaries
and
resourcefulness
of
your
adversaries
from
script
kitties
up
to
nation
states,
but
a
various
amount
of
a
diversity
of
motivations.
K
Some
people
just
want
to
make
want
to
do
it
for
the
walls
they're
in
it,
for
the
thrill
of
up
Bitcoin
and
like
the
posts
that
they're
going
to
put
on
Twitter
after
it,
and
so
it's
not
just
an
economic
reason
why
people
want
to
get
civil
resistance.
Some
people
are
in
it
for
the
thrill.
Some
people
are
in
it
for
the
walls
and
some
people
just
like
hard
problems,
and
because
of
the
diversity
of
sophistication
and
resources
into
intelligences
and
motivations.
K
K
Bitcoin
grants
in
the
past
and
in
the
Civil
rings
that
we've
discovered,
and
so
you
have
to
plan
for
plurality
at
the
base
layer
of
how
you
solve
civil
resistance
and
I
think
this
kind
of
informs
where,
where
I
think
that
we
need
to
go
with
civil
resistance,
because
there's
there's
basically
four
ways
to
create
civil
resistance,
you
can
do
it
with
biometric
pre-oriented,
off-chain
data,
like
your
disco
data
backpack
or
your
ceramic,
your
ceramic
profile.
K
You
can
turn
that
into
a
verifiable
credential
which
Bitcoin
passport
stores
on
ceramic,
only
non-personally
identifiable
information,
and
so
all
of
this
data
is
is
stored
off
chain,
and
then
you
can
build
an
aggregator
or
an
aggregate
or
if
you're,
a
meme
Lord
like
I
am
these
days
and
that
can
be
created
used
to
create
a
personhood
score.
That
is,
is
basically
like.
You
can
think
of
a
personhood
score
as
being
ten
dollars
worth
of
cost
of
forgery
in
your
Bitcoin
passport.
K
So
someone
who
has
a
10
personhood
score
is
ten
dollars
to
forge
their
Identity
or
someone
with
a
ten
thousand
personhood
score
is
ten
thousand
dollars
worth
of
simple
resistance
and
you
as
adapt
developer.
Integrating
Bitcoin
passport
can
give
that
much
amount
of
rational
economic
rewards
to
them,
because
the
cost
of
forgery
is
x,
amount
and
Bitcoin
can
give
x
amount
of
that
matching
pool
to
them.
So
I
think
that
we
do
not
want
to
create
a
panopticon.
K
We
are
not
web
2
and
privacy
and
sovereignty
has
to
be
a
criteria
for
how
we
solve
civil
resistance.
The
need
to
avoid
plutocracy
is
another
thing
that
we've
learned
from
web
2
as
being
being
very
important
here
so
basically
in
web
2,
Facebook
and
Zuck
owns
your
data,
and
how
do
we
create
a
system
in
web3
that
is
diverse
and
pluralistic
and
has
the
network
effects
of
creating
digital
identity
but
doesn't
become
captured
by
a
a
rational
economic
actor?
K
So
basically,
what
you
don't
want
to
have
is
is
basically
like
a
company
that
owns
all
of
your
identity
data,
that's
governed
by
shareholders
and
the
management
of
that
company
has
a
fiduciary
duty
to
maximize
value
for
the
shareholders,
because
you
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
your
data
in
that
situation,
it's
just
going
to
be
used
to
sell
more
ads
against
you.
So
with
Git
coin.
K
One
of
the
reasons
why
we
launched
the
Dow-
and
there
are
many-
is
that
we
wanted
to
be
be
governed
by
the
community
that
we
served,
and
this
is
a
distribution
of
the
Bitcoin
voting
power
as
of
the
launch
in
Q2
of
2021..
So
basically,
community
members
like
Trent
Van,
Epps,
Austin,
Griffith,
Linda,
Z,
left
Harris
Griffin
are
the
ones
that
are
delegating
your
voting
power
to
with
GTC
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
making
decisions
on
behalf
of
the
system
and
on
the
long
Arc
of
things.
K
Even
I
will
have
no
power
in
Bitcoin
as
I,
eventually
disaffiliate
as
I
disaffiliate
leadership,
and
these
people
are
actually
in
charge
of
governing
the
data
in
the
protocol
that
we
have
in
the
future.
So
plutocracy
is
a
big
thing
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
solve.
For
another
thing
we
need
to
solve
for
is
called
collusion,
and
it's
basically
one
layer
above
the
stack
of
the
Civil
resistance
problem.
It
goes
like
this
Hey
Kevin
Olson
I
see
that
you've
got
a
person's
herd
score
of
a
hundred
dollars.
I'll
give
you
50
bucks.
K
If
I
can
borrow
your
ID
yeah,
there
you
go,
and
so
basically
what
happens
is
as
people
realize
that
they
can
get
around
the
Civil
resistance
in
the
system
by
colluding
with
each
other.
Then
more
of
the
people
who
are
neutral
to
the
system
begin
to
turn
red,
because
the
rational
economic
incentive
is
to
attack
the
system
and
and
not
defend
the
system.
Conclusion.
K
So
all
we
can
do
is
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
we
own
the
battle
arena
in
which
they're
attacking
the
system
and
over
time
turn
the
dials,
so
that
the
blue
team
is
more
empowered
than
the
red
team
in
this
iterative,
evolutionary
infinite
game
between
the
Civil
attackers
and
the
Defenders.
So
if
you
Empower
a
Sentry,
a
blue
person,
a
blue
team
person
to
prevent
that
red
team
person
from
colluding,
then
basically,
instead
of
infinitely
growing
into
into
occlusion
attack,
you
basically
stop
at
it
at
its
source.
K
So
basically
you
get
to
a
point
where
the
blue
team
can
say.
Oh
this
again,
this
pattern
matches
against
something
that
I've
seen
and
you
can
prevent
the
Civil
attack
from
going.
There
is
a
plurality
of
types
of
attacks
that
will
happen
in
these
systems
and
so
because
of
that,
there's
going
to
be
a
plurality
of
defenses
that
are
going
to
be
need
to
be
built
into
this
system,
and
the
idea
is
to
make
it
so
that
it
is
not
worth
an
attacker's
time
to
attack
the
system.
K
You
hear
vitalik
talk
about
this,
this
property
of
systemic
defensibility.
When
he
talks
about
proof
of
stake
and
how
much
more
expensive
it
is
to
attack
the
proof
of
stake
consensus
protocol
than
it
is
to
defend
the
the
protocol.
So
basically,
we
want
to
have
that
same
property
inside
of
our
civil
resistance
Battleground,
which,
by
the
way,
has
grown
a
lot
since
Bitcoin
grants
round.
One
when
it
was
just
a
bunch
of
end
users,
some
of
them
were
red
team
and
they're.
K
Only
after
a
25k
matching
pool
over
the
last
15
rounds,
we've
iterated
a
lot,
and
this
is
what
it
looks
like
now.
So
the
red
team
is
the
attackers
The
Blue
Team
are
people
that
use
get
coin
data
and
protocols
in
order
to
solve
it.
So
you've
got
the
end
users,
who
are
now
going
after
three
million
dollars
worth
of
matching,
but
in
order
to
get
to
it,
they
have
to
go
through
passport,
which
is
this
sovereignty
aware.
K
Privacy
is
preserving
data
store
for
figuring
out
who's,
a
civil
attacker
or
not
has
to
go
through
pairwise,
which
is
a
really
elegant
way
of
solving
conclusion
that
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
now,
but
I
can
send
you
a
reference
on
it
and
then
they
can
get
to
the
grants,
and
only
by
going
through
the
all
these
different
blue
team
exercises.
Are
they
able
to
get
to
the
three
million
dollars
in
matching
proactively?
D
K
One
of
the
cool
things
about
Bitcoin
passport
and
what
I'm
doing
now
is
its
modularity
and
forkability,
and
this
is
the
part
of
the
presentation
where
I
get
to
raise
my
hand
and
I
say:
I'm,
sorry
that
I
built
Bitcoin
grants
to
be
centralized
and
monolithic
back
in
the
day,
but
I
will
never
do
it
again
because
I
believe
in
modularity
and
super
modularity
and
the
ability
to
Fork
this
protocol.
K
So
anyone
here,
if
you
disagree
with
how
Bitcoin
is
doing
passport,
you
can
Fork
it
away
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
how
in
just
a
second
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
benefits
of
decentralization
is
basically
the
fact
that
anyone
can
go
in
and
can
Fork
get
coin
and
the
fact
that
it
is
governed
by
its
community.
So
basically,
what
this
looks
like
is
in
that
three-state
state
machine.
Anyone
can
go
in
and
add
their
own
stamp,
adding
more
data.
K
K
The
cool
thing
about
Bitcoin
passport
is
it's
kind
of
like
Kirby.
It
can
swallow
all
of
the
different
data
that
exists
on
chain
and
off
chain
in
the
web3
ecosystem
is
stored
in
a
privacy
preserving
and
Sovereign
way,
and
when
we
have
a
plurality
of
attackers,
a
plurality
of
stamps
is
what's
going
to
help
us
build
a
stronger
Foundation
to
get
those
attackers
say
that
you
don't
agree
with
get
coins.
Personhood
scoring
algorithm,
say
you
think
bright.
K
Id
is
worth
a
hundred
and
ten
dollars
as
a
stamp
or
not
fifty
dollars
or
you
can
go
in
and
you
can
add
your
own
scoring
algorithm.
So
basically,
this
is
a
way
to
create
an
economy
of
marketplaces
that
have
opinionated
values
about
how
we
reduce
different
data
attributes
into
different
scores,
and
this
is
plurality
at
the
base
layer
that
we're
sort
of
building
in
it's
not
git.
Coin
saying
this
is
what
the
Civil
score
is
of
your
of
your
thing.
It's
it's!
K
Basically,
the
plurality
of
people
who
are
involved
in
passport
debating
these
in
the
open
economy
of
ideas
and
by
the
way,
if
you
want
to
use
the
passport
infrastructure,
the
state
machine
that
we've
built
not
for
civil
resistance.
So
you
want
to
build
like
a
regen
score
that
talks
about
how
worthy
of
an
under
cloudized
loan
you
are.
You
can
use
this
pipeline
for
that
too.
It
doesn't
even
have
to
be
about
civil
resistance
and
then
the
final
layer
is
that
you
can
add
personhood
score
to
your
d-app.
K
It's
basically
a
couple
lines
of
code
to
add
it
to
your
sign
in
with
ethereum
and
instead
of
just
getting
back
your
web3.
youth.accounts
from
the
system
them
in
the
balance.
You
can
also
get
the
personhood
score
back
from
Bitcoin
passport,
so
adding
personhood
score
to
your
dap
is
kind
of
how
we
think
about
proliferating,
a
simple
resistant
ecosystem
to
the
rest
of
the
world,
all
right,
we're
in
the
home
stretch
now
I
got
two
more
criteria
for
you
and
then
we're
going
to
get
into
actually
building
stuff
with
Kevin.
K
So
the
need
to
build
Network
effects.
I
like
to
introduce
this
one
with
a
riddle
and
that
riddle
is,
if
I
build
the
most
perfectly
academic
civil
resistance,
algorithm
and
no
one
ever
uses
it
doesn't
make
a
sound.
The
cool
thing
about
Bitcoin
grants
is
that
we've
got
700
000
data
points
that
are
already
happening
about
civil
resistance,
and
so
basically,
the
more
users
use
Bitcoin
passport.
The
more
stamps
are
loaded
into
the
system.
K
The
more
reason
there
is
for
d-apps
to
consume
the
Civil
resistance
in
the
system,
which
means
that
more
users
will
get
their
Bitcoin
passport
and
that
will
create
more
stamps
and
I
could
go
on
in
this
infinite
Loop
for
the
rest
of
our
time.
But
out
of
respect
for
you,
we
will
move
on
to
the
evolutionary
nature
of
this
game,
which
is
the
part
of
the
game
that
I've
become
fascinated
with,
and
the
reason
why
we
called
this
talk.
K
The
infinite
game
of
civil
resistance
is
because
of
the
of
the
infinite
evolutionary
nature
of
this
game.
I'd
like
to
invite
my
friend,
Kevin
McAllister
back
in
order
to
illustrate
this
Kevin
McAllister
is
fighting
in
an
adversarial
game.
Some
organized
criminals
who
are
trying
to
get
into
his
house-
and
he
does
it
by
icing
but-
and
you
know
what's
funny-
is
like
over
time.
It
like
increasingly
approaches
like
a
YouTube
cover
video
of
like
the
shot,
the
shocked
face
here,
but
I'm
not
here
to
judge
home
alone
all
right
so
anyway.
K
Basically
iterative
evolutionary
game
is
where
we
were.
Basically,
you
recognize
on
the
left
that
this
is
the
battle
arena
that
get
coin
bitcoin's
fundamental
advantage
in
this
is
that
it
owns
the
battle
arena.
K
So
that
is
the
characterization
of
the
Civil
resistance
game
and
basically
I
want
to
talk
about
how
that
is
informed,
how
we've
built
get
coin
grants
and
Bitcoin
passport.
So
basically,
the
tldr
of
this
last
section
is
the
Bitcoin
grants
around
69,
which
is
another
meme
number
I,
think
that's
it
will
be
in
2027
at
this
point
will
be
privacy
and
sovereignty
where
it
will
avoid
plutocracy.
K
You
can
tell
that
because
I
have
this
Castle
in
the
Sky
of
Bitcoin
grants
and
we've
fallen
into
having
the
Civil
resistance
problem,
the
bitcoin's
taking
this
problem
pretty
seriously,
and
because
of
that,
we
want
to
be
a
shelling
point
for
creating
more
civil
resistance,
along
with
the
plurality
of
Partners
I,
see
many
of
you
in
this
room
right
now
around
solving
civil
resistance,
and
so
it's
basically
a
plural
approach
to
this
problem
and
I.
Think
that,
like
where
we've
kind
of
landed
is
that
we've
built
this
thing.
K
K
M
A
lot
that's
a
lot
to
follow.
I
think
we're
gonna
slow
down
a
little
bit
hope.
L
Y'all
yeah
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
eventually,
okay,
cool.
M
Yes,
okay,
cool.
M
I
had
the
pleasure
of
stepping
in
for
a
wakia
tapcon
in
Berlin,
so
I
I
left
giving
that
talk
feeling
like
I
wanted
to
give
this
talk,
which
is
like
what
did
we
actually
build
right,
which
is
hopefully
just
as
exciting
I,
don't
know,
it
is
more
than
one
line
of
code,
though,
and
what
I'm
really
going
to
do
is
try
to
orient
you
all
as
like
future
builders
on
top
of
passport.
How
do
you
use
it?
M
How
do
you
use
it
for
your,
your
apps
or
your
communities
and
really
just
kind
of
point
you
at
a
lot
of
resources,
so
this
is
going
to
be
kind
of
a
big
overview
of
what
we've
built
and
why
we've
built
it
the
way
we've
built
it
I
think
that's
kind
of
an
important
thing
and
and
then
how
to
take
that
forward.
M
I
got
a
slido
pole,
I'm
gonna
pull
up
on
my
phone,
so
I
can
follow
along.
If
you
all
want
to
scan
that,
you
should
ask
questions
there,
and
hopefully
you
have
enough
time
at
the
end
to
answer
them.
M
Cool
I'm,
starting
to
see
phones,
go
down
so
I'm
gonna
say
we're
good,
all
right
cool.
So
here's
the
agenda,
we're
gonna,
do
the
Y
passport,
like
what
problem?
Does
it
solve
and
I?
Think
Kevin
did
a
great
job
of
the
big
meta
y?
What
is
passport
who's
currently
using
it
and
then
how
to
do
it
yourself
right?
M
So
why
pass
for
it
right?
Kevin's
talk,
write
the
infinite
game.
You
you
have
these
systems
that
are
vulnerable
to
civil
attacks
right
some
of
the
things
we're
seeing
right
now.
Anything
is
doing
kind
of
voting,
quadratic
funding,
quadratic
voting,
it's
particularly
susceptible
to
this.
You
also
have
communities
that
are
providing
benefits
right
if
you
have
like
some
sort
of
paying
you're
paying
gas
fees
on
behalf
of
something
or
you
have
some
poets
or
or
things
like
this
you're
giving
away
people
Farm
these
things
right.
M
So
passport
is
a
great
way
to
uniquely
sort
of
identify
the
humans
in
your
system
and
only
provide
those
benefits
to
the
people
who
are
really
going
to
be
using
it
and
aren't
just
you
know:
rational
actors,
exploiting
your
system
right
like
there
might
be
an
economic
gaming
there's
an
airdrop
in
the
future.
M
You
get
why
they're
doing
it,
but
ultimately
it's
a
destructive
like
element
in
you
know
the
governance
of
your
your
system
or
the
benefits
not
getting
to
the
right
people
right,
they're,
they're,
they're
distorting
the
effect
of
that,
so
the
high
level
requirements.
So
this
is
so
Kevin
stock
kind
of
give
us
gives
us
the
sort
of
parameters
for
the
design
space
that
we
went
into.
We
want
to
do.
Privacy
preservation
so
like
as
a
first
goal,
we're
not
going
to
dox
anybody
with
passport.
M
This
has
been
a
huge
concern
of
ours
right
so
from
day.
One
our
goal
was
to
make
sure
there
was
no
opportunity
for
us
to
like
leak,
pii
or
anything
like
that,
so
personally
identifiable
information
outside
to
anyone
right.
So
we
don't
store
any
pii
in
the
get
coin
passport.
This
for
sure
you
can
go
check
it
out.
It's
not
there
else.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
decentralized
right.
We
don't
want
to
be
a
point
of
of
capture
for
the
audience.
We
don't
want
to
be
making.
M
You
know
we
don't
want
to
go
evil,
get
coin
and
make
bad
decisions.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
adaptive
right
so
that
we
can,
in
this
evolutionary
game,
continue
making
improvements.
And,
lastly,
when
we
pluralistic,
we
want
to
invite
a
lot
of
people
into
solving
this
problem
with
us
and
making
sure
that
we're
actually
getting
you
know
the
best
ideas
put
forward.
You
know
forking
our
protocol
or
just
like
adapting
it
for
your
group
right.
We
don't
necessarily
make
our
decisions,
the
ones
that
everyone
has
to
use.
M
So
we
tried
to
make
this
as
a
real,
like
as
a
toolbox
that
you
can
take
forward
into
your
group.
I
already
did
this,
maybe
some
of
the
the
details
on
here.
One
of
the
interesting
things
about
capture
is:
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
data
was
fully
public.
We
ended
up
using
the
ceramic
Network
for
that
and
sticking
to
the
Open
Standards
of
dids
and
VCS
keeping
going
here.
M
This
is
the
part
where
I
was
going
to
demo
it,
but
I,
don't
trust
the
the
Wi-Fi
so
I'm
gonna
spare
everyone
watching
me.
Wait
for
this
thing
to
load
who's
actually
built
a
Bitcoin
passport
for
donating
to
get
coin
grants
okay.
So
these
are
the
folks
who
participated
in
rounds
14
and
15..
If
you
wanted
your
matching
bonus,
you
went
here
and
did
this
maybe
I'll
just
like
use
your
imagination
and
work
with
me
here.
You
connect
your
wallet.
We
instantly
provision
an
empty
passport
for
you.
M
You
go
through
these
different
identity.
Attestations
connecting
your
Twitter,
that's
an
oauth
flow
GTC
staking
was
a
project
that
got
built
on
the
side
where
you
could
stake
GTC
on
each
other
to
prove
kind
of
humanness
or
kind
of
web
of
trust.
That's
an
online!
That's
a
very
that's!
A
web
three
endpoint
we're
just
hitting
a
Json
RPC,
proving
that
your
wallet
address
is
on
that
contract
and
pulling
that
back
and
verifying
it
what's
behind
the
scene.
M
On
all
of
these,
things
is
just
a
little
Json
object
right,
that's
what
all
the
various
Bible
credential
is
and
we're
just
proving
that
we
observed
that
fact.
At
that
point
of
time,
VC
gives
you
the
ability
to
have
like
an
expiration
date.
Things
like
this
so
for
a
period
of
time,
we're
saying
that
we
we've
validated
that
they
had
an
account
at
this
point
in
time.
It's
somewhat
static
data.
That's
the
interesting
thing
about
VCS!
It
goes
with
you.
M
You
can
actually
download
your
passport,
there's
an
ability,
if
you
have
it
on
your
phones,
you
want
to
play
with
this.
You
can
actually
just
pull
down
the
whole
passport
yourself.
It's
just
Json
object.
You
can
actually
upload
it.
You
can
kind
of
skip
the
whole
ceramic
thing
if
you
want,
but
we've
chosen
to
use
ceramic
as
the
sort
of
data
layer
to
back
this.
M
Oh
gosh
man
I'm
just
front
running
my
own,
slides
here,
I'm,
so
sorry,
everybody,
one
cool
thing
you
can
do.
This
is
interesting
with
ceramic
and
just
to
kind
of
prove.
The
open
data
thing
go
check
out.
This
Sarah
scan
right
on
Sarah
scan.
It's
like
an
indexer
of
the
ceramic
Network.
You
can
pull
up
every
instance
of
the
passport
schema.
That's
been
filled
right
that
people
have
written
to
there's
60
000
passports
that
have
been
built
right.
People
have
made
many
many
more
stamps.
M
So
behind
that
what's
interesting
is
in
our
last
round
grants
around
15.
We
actually
had
38
000
that
were
submitted
To
Us
by
our
users,
so
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
passports
that
are
getting
built
and
used
externally
I'm
going
to
get
into
that
a
little
bit.
There's
already.
Some
communities
are
starting
to
adopt
this.
M
This
is
a
little
preview
of
what
you
get
to
see.
When
you
go
to
search
scan,
you
can
click
through.
You
can
actually
see
the
raw
data.
It's
it's
super
interesting,
so,
okay,
some
background,
Concepts,
so
I've
kind
of
said
these
things,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you
all
have
the
references
I'll
make
these
slides
available.
There's
a
lot
of
links
in
here
and
I
hope
people
kind
of
use
this
as
a
reference.
You
know
as
they
get
started
so
decentralized
identifiers
who's,
heard
of
that.
M
Oh
okay,
great
I'll,
have
to
talk
about
this.
Okay
cool.
What
about
did
pkh
cool,
so
this
is
a
deterministic
way
of
generating
dids
from
your
private
key,
your
public
key
you,
you
have
this
ability
to
deterministically
make
sure
that
every
wallet
has
the
ability
to
generate
a
did.
M
It's
it's
a
bit
of
a
subset
I!
Think
it's
even
like
a
what's
the
word
for
it.
Preliminary
non-ratified,
non-conformant
spec,
it's
like
proposed!
Thank
you!
M
Here
for
and
then
we
have
VCS
behind
that
verified
credentials.
M
Vc
is
a
really
interesting
spec,
because
they're
so
Broad-
and
this
is
actually
some
of
the
criticisms
of
these
specs-
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
interpretation
and
room
to
kind
of
do
whatever
you
want
with
it
VCS
as
we've
used
them
are
really
just
an
attestation
that
we
observed
some
things.
It's
like
the
slimmest
subset
of
that
there's
people
who
are
using
them
for
more
interesting
or
more
data,
Rich
environments,
ceramic
who's,
used
ceramic
or
heard
of
it.
M
Okay,
okay,
I
like
to
say
that
it's
kind
of
a
convenience
layer
on
top
of
ipfs
I,
don't
know.
If
that's,
they
would
all
agree
with
me,
but
it's
a
really
nice
way
to
have
mutable
streams
of
data
that
users
control
right.
So
you
are
the
only
person
with
your
did
that
you
control
that
can
write
into
your
stream
and
through
some
of
their
libraries,
you
can
grant
access
to
an
app
to
write
into
your
stream.
It's
individually
writable
self-sovereign,
but
it's
totally
open
data
right.
So
it's
kind
of
an
interesting.
M
It's
a
really
good
fit
for
these
use
cases.
Why
we
chose
it,
but
it's
pretty
unique:
we
don't
have
a
database,
we're
not
storing
any.
You
know
VCS
of
everybody,
it's
all
happening
here
and
you
control
your
stream
as
a
user
of
the
ceramic
Network.
So
we
really
are
relying
on
this.
As
the
data
layer
for
passport,
we
host
a
production,
node
ourself,
which
is
kind
of
interesting.
We
also
host
a
test
net
node.
M
So
if
you're
developing,
this
is
all
in
the
docs
we'll
get
to
that
later,
but
yeah
okay,
Spruce
did
kit.
Everyone
uses
Spruce
same
with
ethereum
yeah
did
kit
is
amazing,
and
this
Bruce
team
is
super.
Nice,
so
is
the
ceramic
team.
The
ceramic
team
is
really
really
nice
too.
They
joined
us
for
like
daily
calls
like
during
the
round
right
like
they
were
really
committed
to
making
sure
that
everything
went
well
and
continuing
to
be
really
tight
with
us,
so
Joel
he's
in
the
audience.
M
Thank
you,
you're
awesome
and
then
Rocco
from
Spruce
has
been
awesome
in
helping
us
manage,
did
there's
some
interesting
stuff
later
on
that
I'm
gonna
get
into
here
too
so
high
level
concept.
So
this
is
the
whole
of
of
what
passport
really
is
right.
So
there's
the
there's
the
app
right,
there's
there's
passport,
which
was
that
screenshot
that
was
going
to
demo,
but
I'm
not
going
to
now.
You
have
ceramic,
which
is
where
all
the
data
actually
sits.
M
You're
using
these
open
data
standards,
which
is
interesting
thing
with
ceramic,
is
you
have
the
ability
to
Define
schemas,
so
the
data
that's
going
into
ceramic
is
kind
of
being
enforced
at
that
data
layer
that
it's
conformant
to
the
did
in
the
VC
spec
or
the
VC
spec,
really
right.
So
the
if
you
want
to
write
a
stamp
which
is
a
VC,
you
can
just
use
the
same
model.
The
same
schema
that
we've
published
to
the
ceramic
Network
and
it'll
be
conformant
right.
M
So
you
can't
get
the
sort
of
like
drift
of
of
data
schema
when
you're
relying
on
the
get
coin
passport
stamp
or
the
VC
spec
that
we've
published
there's
a
passport
Authority.
So
this
is
something
we
had
to
build.
We
had
to
build
a
back
end
where
we
issue
the
VCS
from
so
VCS
are
not
necessarily
like
a
first-class
citizen.
Yet
so,
when
we're
observing
these
attestations,
we're
Min
we're
issuing
these
VCS
back
up
to
go
into
your
passport.
M
This
is
kind
of
a
current
point.
Centralization
I'll
get
into
this
a
little
bit
later.
You'll
see
it
in
the
code
base
too
there's
this
IM
server
trust
bonus.
This
is
how,
if
you've
used
passport
to
build
a
trust
bonus
we,
this
is
the
part
where
you
actually
submit
it
to
get
coin.
This
is
the
scoring
piece.
This
is
all
available
inside
the
the
coin
web
repo.
You
can
read
how
we
did
it's
all
kind
of
in
Python
and
stuff.
M
The
SDK
has
some
easier
ways
of
doing
scoring,
but
this
is
kind
of
like
the
full
life
cycle
right
and
then
there's
this
get
coin
scoring
service
that
we'll
get
into
cool
I'm
not
going
to
show
this.
M
This
is
a
pretty
detailed,
like
swim,
Lane
of
like
exactly
all
the
calls,
but
if
you
really
wanted
to
get
into
it
and
see
exactly
where,
like
all
of
the
sort
of
sequence
of
like
calls
between
front
and
the
back
you'll
see
it
here,
that
line
that
link
is
live
and
open
feel
free
to
check
it
out
the
passport
SDK
itself.
So
this
is
up
on
bitcoin.
This
is
actually
how
you
can
build
on
top
of
passport
the
most
easily,
so
I'm
gonna
get
a
little
bit
more
into
the.
M
How
a
little
bit
later
current
points
essentially
I
hinted
at
this,
so
the
IM
server
is
where
we're
actually
observing
we're
like
issuing
these
VCS
from
so
you.
If
you
want
to
use
a
score
that
uses
VCS
from
git
coin,
you
have
to
kind
of
white
list
RVC
server,
but
this
allows
anybody
else
to
also
issue
VCS
and
the
scoring
part
of
the
SDK
allows
you
to
decide
which
VC
issuers
you
trust
right.
So
you
give
that
control
kind
of
Downstream.
Anybody
can
write
into
your
passport
if
you
give
them
access
to
it
right.
M
So
if
you're
a
did
holder
and
you
go
to
a
forked
version
of
Bitcoin,
it
was
a
passport.
You
can
give
access
to
your
stream
to
that
front
end.
They
could
write
into
it.
But
if
they're
not
hitting
our
DC
issue
in
service,
the
they
can't
issue
their
own.
So
where
do
where
do
you
decide
who
to
trust
which
VCS
are
worth
trusting?
M
It's
at
that
scoring
layer
right
when
you
come
back
around
and
you
actually
see
like
what
what's
in
a
passport
you
can
see
through
the
the
VC
which
server
issued
that
that
particular
credential
and
then.
Lastly,
our
score
is
currently
our
point
of
trust
right.
You
have
to
if
you're
handing
your
passport
to
us,
you're
working
within
the
get
coin
ecosystem.
Fine,
you
can
trust
us
in
the
future,
as
people
start
using
other
scores,
you
kind
of
start
making
scores
as
a
service.
M
Things
like
this
they're
going
to
become
a
point
of
trust
right,
you're,
going
to
have
to
rely
on
that
scoring
service
to
you
know
to
to
hand
like
to
be
doing
the
right
thing
with
the
passports
that
you
hand
to
it
right.
So
if
you
don't
want
to
go
through
the
hassle
of
scoring
a
passport
yourself
reading
the
dids
doing
the
scoring,
you
have
to
actually
rely
on
somebody
else.
This
is
kind
of
just
a
maybe
worth
calling
out
okay.
So
what
can
we
do
in
the
future?
M
People
can
build
their
own
IM
servers
and
start
issuing
their
own
VCS.
That's
pretty
straightforward!
You
can
host
your
own
ceramic
node.
You
could
help
us,
especially
when
ceramic
moves
into
this
compose
DB
in
the
future.
I'm
hinting
it
that
again,
I,
don't
think
anyone
from
ceramic
is
here
thinking
correct
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
heard
q1
of
next
year.
M
This
is
a
great
way
to
start
synchronizing
data
between
nodes
and
pinning
it
and
making
sure
that
the
data
is
available
in
more
locations
and
then,
lastly,
scoring
help
us
build
more
scores
faster
and
note.
Let
us
be
a
point
of
centralization.
M
I
said:
I
was
gonna,
go
slower,
but
then
I
started
going
fast,
yeah,
okay,
so
who's
already
doing
this,
so
we
actually
have
a
community
of
people
who
are
kind
of
picking
this
up
and
starting
to
build
on
top
of
it.
Each
Staker
just
popped
into
our
Discord
and
told
us
that
they
built
this,
which
is
super
cool,
so
thanks
Remy.
M
What
they're
using
passport
for
actually
is
giving
roles
inside
their
Discord.
So
you
can
go
into
this
Discord
Channel.
M
They
pop
you
out
to
do
a
little
signing
and
then
you
come
back
around
and
the
bot
runs
through
your
passport
reads:
all
the
data
in
and
gives
you
a
score
and
it
automatically
assigns
you
a
role
in
the
Discord,
so
they
were
having
an
issue
apparently
with
people
getting.
You
know,
multiple
roles
or
bad
roles
and
they
want
to
make
sure
they're
real
people
and
not
Bots
super
use
case,
and
it's
all
available
there
check
out
their
their
GitHub
repo
bankless
Academy
I
didn't
link
this,
but
it's
actually
there.
M
So
if
you
go
to
the
bankless
academy,
GitHub
it's
you
can
even
just
like
search
the
code
for
passport
and
you
can
see
their
implementation.
There.
I
might,
after
the
fact,
drop
a
link
in
this
DDA.
Similarly,
just
like
kind
of
tweeted
this
out
and
then
jumped
in
our
Discord
and
told
us
that
they
built
this,
they
did
some
cool
stuff
too.
Where
so,
this
is
Vanquis.
Academy
is
kind
of
a
rabbit.
M
Hole-Esque
right,
you
go
through
you
complete
some
sort
of
challenges
and
you
get
like
a
like
a
mint
po
app
mint
Kudos
at
the
end,
people
were
farming
this
and
they
needed
some
civil
protection.
What's
really
cool
actually
the
way
they
do.
This
is
because
they're
able
to
read
the
data
in
the
background
you
sign
in
like
with
ethereum,
you
have
like
they
know
your
wallet
address
that
you're
completing
this
challenge,
where
you're
going
to
get
that
that
mint
Kudos
back
to
you.
They
just
in
the
background,
just
go,
read
your
passport.
M
You
already
have
one
like:
they
just
see
what
stamps
and
they
say:
okay,
cool,
good
enough
like
we'll,
let
you
in
we
minted
this
happened
to
me.
I
was
like
I
thought.
This
was
live
like
I
thought.
You
know,
like
I,
didn't
see
the
passport
submission
thing,
so
you
don't
actually
have
to
do
this
right.
You
can,
just
in
the
background,
go
look
up
a
passport
and
see
what
stamps
are
on
it
without
any
kind
of
clumsy
flow.
M
M
Other
cool
thing,
too,
is
they're
they're,
doing
the
like
the
caching
and
this
storing
of
duplicate
stamps,
which
is
a
thing
we
we
can
get
into
a
little
bit
here
too,
so
how
to
actually
get
started.
So
the
obvious
place
to
get
started,
go
to
our
docs
docs.passport.getcoin.com,
there's
a
lot
of
like
the
high
level
stuff,
all
the
way
through
into
the
SDK,
and
really
hike
how
to
get
like
through
it.
M
I
think
one
of
the
most
important
things,
though,
is
actually
decide
like
when
you're
getting
into
like
how
to
use
the
sdks
like
what
you're
really
doing
with
it
right
and
a
lot
of
this
comes
down
to
like
gating
of
a
benefit
or
a
community.
We're
also
seeing
some
people
who
have
like
interesting
identity
signals
right.
We've
had
some
people
who
have
you
know
like
like
a
kyc
service,
or
they
have
like
gitpo
app
just
reached
out
and
just
built
their
own
right.
They're
like
this
is
a
cool
thing.
M
It
should
be
a
stamp,
it
should
be
in
your
passport.
You
can
build
interesting
scoring
mechanisms.
Maybe
you
have
some
thoughts
on
what
is
a
really
good?
You
know
cost
of
forgery
or
scoring
or
personhood
build
it
right,
like
all
of
these
things
are
there
and
the
raw
materials
are
there
in
the
toolbox
in
the
SDK,
I
think
I've
kind
of
beat
this
up
a
little
bit,
but
the
basic
thing:
this
is
the
trust
bonus,
page
I,
think
you'll
you'll
see.
M
This
is
how
we
gate
our
community
in
service
adding
a
stamp
gitpo
app.
This
is
a
pull
request
that
they
submitted
right
here
for
how
to
build
a
stamp
this
again
as
it's
a
moving
Target
we're
going
to
continuing
improving
the
code
base,
but
right
now
this
is
a
great
way
to
get
started
to
see
exactly
how
to
like
add
a
stamp.
You
can
take
that
PR
move
it
forward.
M
We
actually
have
a
library
of
other
PRS
in
our
docs
of
like
where
we've
added
other
different
kinds
of
stamps,
so
you
can
look
to
see.
You
know
how
your
you're
kind
of
flow
might
map.
Best,
Discord
I
think
we've
seen
this,
but
this
is
actually
the
Discord
as
the
stamps.
This
is
another
example.
I
wanted
to
highlight
this
one's
not
like
an
like
a
this,
this
one's,
an
on-chain
verification.
This
one
is
not
right,
so
you
have
kind
of
these
different
flows.
I
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight.
M
This
was
a
video
that
got
submitted
to
our
hackathon,
which
is
just
great
I
hope
it
doesn't
play
okay,
it's
a
great
walkthrough.
If
you
really
just
you
need
to
like
the
walkthrough,
and
you
want
to
watch
someone
like
actually
code
through
a
full
implementation
of
the
SDK
Rask
is
the
username.
Did
a
great
job
and
I
think
actually
won
our
hackathon
with
this
video.
So
it's
it's
top-notch
then.
Lastly,
if
you
do
build
something,
tell
us
about
it.
We
got
the
showcase.passport
where
you'll
see
we've
got
eatstaker
up.
M
We
haven't
gotten
the
the
bankless
one
up
here,
yet
we're
I
think
we're
still
waiting
for
them
to
apply
into
this,
but
there's
a
form
of
call
to
action
at
the
bottom.
Just
tells
you've
built
it.
We
want
other
people
to
find
it.
We'll
link
you
to
your.
You
know
your
project
into
your
your
GitHub
and
then
Alpha
alert
Kevin.
Do
you
know
we
had
an
API?
M
This
is
super
cool.
So
when,
when
I
mentioned
that
we
have
this
kind
of
like
centralized,
you
submit
your
passport
to
to
get
coin
and
we
do
all
this
stuff
and
we
give
you
back
this
magical
trust
bonus.
We've
busted
this
out
as
an
API.
Now,
so
you
actually
can
hit.
This
is
the
Swagger
UI
link,
but
the
the
API
is
the
same
path
there
score.dpop
the
the
what's
neat
about
this.
Is
you?
M
Can
you
can
actually
post
like
a
full
passport
to
this,
and
then
you
can
read
off
different
kinds
of
scores,
so
we
actually
have
like
a
weighted
score,
which
is
what
ships
with
the
SDK.
So
you
can
set
up
kind
of
a
set
of
Weights,
this
kind
of
alludes
to
Kevin's
cost
of
forgery.
We
also
have
this
thing
called
Apu,
which
is
like
this
fingerprinting
service.
M
We
actually
use
for
gr15,
which
takes
like
a
cohort
of
passports,
have
been
submitted
to
us
and
we
find
the
median
value
of
uniqueness,
and
you
can
kind
of
treat
that,
as
like
you
know
below
that
threshold
might
be
maybe
not
so
trustworthy
above
that
threshold
is
trustworthy,
assuming
you
have
kind
of
a
gaussian
distribution
of
of
users,
so
the
Apu
score
is
kind
of
an
interesting
one.
Different
kind
of
scores
available
we're
going
to
make
this
more
fully
featured,
but
this
is
like
literally
shipped
last
week,
very
like
there's
no
docs
on
this.
M
This
is
the
dock
for
y'all,
but
we're
going
to
keep
improving
that
and
making
sure
that
this
becomes
like
a
real
like
an
easy
way
to
start
interacting
with
passport.
Without
having
to
go
through
necessarily
hitting
ceramic
and
reading
it,
if
you
don't
want
to
right,
you
just
have
this
as
a
way,
but
we
are
storing
off
these
these
hashes
and
things
like
that
for
it
and
then
in
the
future.
M
This
is
like
the
the
thing
we
recently
just
spent
some
time
on
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
the
team's
looking
at
how
to
actually
bring
scoring
on
chains.
So
one
of
the
things
you're
going
to
run
into
if
you're,
really
trying
to
like
enforce
a
certain
score
to
interact
with
a
contract,
is
you're
going
to
need
to
bring
this
on
chain.
M
Somehow
the
teams
looked
at
a
couple,
different
routes
and
the
ones
looking
most
promising
is
using
eip712s
as
an
actual
way
to
like
create
a
recoverable
signed
message
on
chain
that
you
can
then
verify
yourself
as
part
of
your
like
actual
smart
contract
interactions,
so
we're
trying
to
bridge
passport
scores
and
and
onto
chain,
so
you
can
actually
start
using
them
there.
M
So
we're
going
to
need
this
for
Grants
protocol
as
we
go,
live
your
votes
and
things
like
that
and
your
passport
will
need
to
be
actually
interacting
with
voting
contracts,
so
we
needed
ourselves
and
I
think
other
people
will
too
all
right
and
that's
it.
So
maybe
we
look
at
that
slido
for
some
questions.
M
M
This
is
a
great
question.
I
mean
I.
Think
the
real
answer
here
is
well.
Okay,
two
two
answers:
you
can
use
Macy
right
like
minimal
anti-collusion
infrastructure
and
you
can
make
it
impossible
to
verify
who
voted
for
what?
In
a
particular,
you
know
context.
This
is
what
CLR
fund's
done
and
we've
been
looking
at
this
ourselves
actually
for
some
of
our
Partnerships
with
with
optimism.
M
It's
it's
at
the
root
level,
making
it
impossible.
So
so
Kevin
gave
me
50
bucks
for
my
identity.
I
could
take
the
50
bucks
and
then
devote.
However,
I
want
there's
no
way
for
him
to
prove
it.
This
is
the
kind
of
concept
behind
Macy,
so
you
can
have
the
secret
ballot
as
the
way
to
protect
people.
From
being
able
to
you
know,
the
economic
reward
is
impossible
to
validate
right
for
the
the
people
who
are
trying
to
bribe
I.
Think
more
legitimate
forms
of
collusion
would
be
me
and
Kevin.
M
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
similar
ideas.
We
share
a
name.
We
might
just
vote
really.
Similarly,
on
things
right,
we
actually
belong
to
a
community
right.
This
is
really
what
like
the
dsoc
paper
that
came
out
from
Glenn,
vitalik
and
Puja
is
really
talking
about.
How
do
you
identify
communities
and
how
do
you
reward
cross
community?
You
know
like
pluralistic
consent
or
not
consent.
Sorry,
what's
a
agreement
or
sort
of
like
signals
between
communities,
I
think
in
this
environment.
M
You've
got
some
really
interesting
opportunities
to
sort
of
like
sidestep
collusion
and
just
talk
about
homogeneous
communities
and
how
they're
voting
and
rewarding
cross-community.
So
they
think
that's
a
nice
sort
of
reframing
of
the
problem.
Yeah
yeah.
K
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
Bitcoin
uses
something
called
pairwise
bonding,
which
is
I,
guess
we're
all
built
on
vitalik
ideas,
but
it's
an
idea
from
vitalik
to
basically
Bond
people
who
vote
similar
to
each
other,
algorithmically
and
and
basically
the
way.
The
algorithm
Works
net
net
is
that
if
two
people
that
have
like
a
high
social
distance
across
them
contribute
to
the
same
Grant,
then
those
contributions
are
worth
more
than
if
you've
got
a
gag
of
people
who
are
only
contributing
to
the
same
Grant.
K
So
it's
a
way
of
kind
of
algorithmically
waiting
things
that
that
are
attractive
across
social
distance
higher.
So
it's
actually
an
early
implementation
of
the
dsoc
idea,
but
yeah
I
mean
I'd,
say
that,
like
passports,
even
still
in
its
early
Alpha
days
and
we're
really
focused
on
civil
resistance
and
then
I
think
collusion
resistance
is
is
kind
of
another
Horizon.
On
top
of
that,
and
hopefully
we'll
get
there.
M
Cool,
so
the
next
question
here
is
the
scoring
and
GTC
passport.
Is
it
arbitrary
and
how
was
it
defined
so
I
mentioned
for
gr15
scoring?
Was
this
Apu
score,
which
came
out
of
like
some
of
the
data
science
work
that
was
done
from
our
fraud
and
defense
team?
So
that's
very
like
specific
to
the
community
of
Bitcoin
right.
It
may
not
work
for
your
environment
and
we
encourage
you
to
build
your
own
weighted
score.
If
you
look
at
the
scoring
SDK,
what
you
basically
can
do
is
Define
all
the
stamps
you
care
about.
M
You
can
Define
which
VC
issuers
you
care
about,
and
then
you
can
Define
weights
based
on
those
that's
the
sort
of
like
dead,
simple
way
of
doing
this,
like
I,
think
Twitter's
worth
one
point.
I
think
bright.
Id
is
worth
20
points
and
you
can
create
an
aggregate
score
and
a
threshold,
and
that's
why
a
lot
of
communities
I
think
think
about
doing
this
kind
of
thing.
M
You
could
go
beyond
that,
obviously,
and
start
storing
these
things
and
doing
machine
learning
against
them
and
do
some
really
interesting
stuff
there.
But
at
the
basic
thing
the
scoring
is
like
I
mentioned,
for
our
community
has
been
this
kind
of
initial
weighted
scoring.
We've
moved
into
this
more
like
ml
sort
of
data
science
approach
and
then
in
the
future.
You
know
we're
going
to
keep
iterating
on
that,
but
you
have
no
limits
to
how
you
want
to
build
your
score
cool.
M
Can
you
give
insights
on
how
to
make
passport
compatible
with
other
chains,
evm
and
non-avm,
looking
to
Technic
to
Architectural
Components,
so
right
now,
there's
not
a
way
to
bridge
it
on
chain.
That's
like
work
in
progress,
that's
that
was
the
thing.
I
was
mentioning
at
the
very
end
there.
So
what
you
really
are
looking
at
is
your
interactions
from
the
from
the
D
app
like.
Do
you
trust
this
interface
that
people
are
interacting
with
and
then
you
would
use
that
as
sort
of
your
gating
mechanism
right.
M
So
if
somebody
has
the
ability
to
access
that,
that
doesn't
mean
you
can
protect
things
at
the
Smart
contract
interaction
level.
This
is
why
we
need
to
bring
it
there.
But
if
you
have
a
back
end,
you
can
certainly
like
protect
yourself.
That
way,
right
you
can
you
can
you
can
validate
that
the
front
end
is
not
being
sort
of
man
in
the
middle
and
you're
getting
a
valid
passport
score
back.
You
can
use
your
back
end
like
Bank
list
did
where,
in
the
background
they
just
Reach
Out
grab
the
passport.
M
L
Like
alarms
to
tell
us
we're
out
of
time-
oh
okay,
sorry
I,
guess
that's
it
for
questions.
Hopefully
that
was
sufficient.
K
Thanks
for
listening,
this
room
is
booked
in
I.
Think
10
minutes
so
just
to
be
respectful
to
the
next
presenter.
Olson
and
I
are
gonna,
go
outside
and
happy
to
take
more
questions
on
the
lobby,
but
go
to
passport.getcoin.com.
If
you
want
to
check
out
the
code
and
thank
you
for
helping
us
build
a
more
democratic
web
free
peace.
G
A
A
A
A
A
A
N
N
Oh
okay,
it
works
all
right,
so
this
is
actually
a
series
of
workshops
that
have
been
hosted
at
events
over
the
past
year,
beginning
with
Amsterdam,
following
up
with
the
researching
web3
workshop
and
most
recently
at
the
Stanford
dial,
Workshop
part
of
the
science
of
blockchains
conference,
obviously
at
Stanford-
and
this
is
kind
of
like
an
exploration
or
a
long-term
project,
to
build
up
this
field.
N
This
new
field
of
research
of
Dow
science,
and
maybe
a
good
framing
for
this
to
understand
where
we're
coming
from
and
how
this
is
down
science
or
down
research
might
be
distinguished
from
you
know,
typical
things
going
on
in
the
industry.
Is
that
the
framing
for
this
for
the
questions
that
we
want
to
ask
are
not
you
know,
three
months
or
six
months
or
even
a
year
down
the
line?
It's
really
asking
a
question:
what
will
Dallas
look
like
10
years
from
now?
Will
they
still
exist?
N
How
could
they
possibly
disrupt
the
existing
infrastructure,
for,
let's
say
corporate
governance
or
other
modes
of
governments
like
non-profit
governance
and
there's
a
bet
that
we've
released,
that
maybe
you
could
help
sharpen
this
and
the
bet
is
Imagine
by
2032?
Imagine
if
daos
or
other
digitally
constituted
organizations
controlled
and
managed
over
50
percent
of
the
assets
of
the
U.S
economy
or
just
the
global
economy.
Just
imagine
if
50
of
the
entire
company
was
managed
by
Dallas.
What
would
that
look
like?
N
Could
you
imagine
today's
Dallas
doing
anything
like
that
personally,
I
can't,
but
you
know
that's
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
change
through
research
now
I
want
to
share
today
we're
going
to
do
a
little
exercise
and
it's
going
to
spend
most
of
today,
speaking
amongst
ourselves
in
these
small
groups.
So
just
you
don't
have
to
be
comfortable
hanging
out
with
each
other
for
the
next
30
minutes.
Hope,
you're.
Okay,
with
that,
the
idea
here
is
we're
going
to
do
a
little
funding
exercise.
N
So
over
the
past,
several
workshops
of
open
problems
and
downscience
we've,
you
know,
come
up
with
lists
of
open
problems,
lists
of
problem
sourced
not
only
from
practitioners,
but
also
from
researchers
in
academics.
N
Now
what
we
want
to
do,
we've
also
sourced
a
more
concrete
research
proposals
that
are
derived
and
synthesized
from
setting
some
of
these
open
problems,
and
now
we
like
to
present
a
selection
of
these
proposals
to
you
and
over
the
next
30
minutes,
we're
going
to
talk
about
well,
what
you
want,
would
you
actually
fund
them?
You
know
as
practitioners,
or
sometimes
as
giving
newbies
to
this
space
like
do
these
things
like
make
sense
to
you.
N
Do
they
reflect
or
answer
or
respond
to
any
of
the
problems
that
you
care
about
and
you'll
have
a
chance
to
sort
of
allocate
rank.
Some
of
these
proposals
allocate
them
and
to
give
us
a
sense
of
what
are
the
priorities
of
the
ecosystem.
You
know
what
kind
of
research
should
we
be
doing,
and
this
is
really
just
an
access.
N
Of
course,
there
are
like
infinite
proposals
that
you
can
consider,
but
we
thought
this
would
be
a
really
nice
way
to
kind
of
interface
with
some
proposals
have
been
developed
by
academics
and
leaders,
Within
These
ecosystems
and
then
trying
to
understand
you
know
trying
to
engage.
How
would
you
might
be
do
this
better
or
if
you're
interested
in
engaging
with
some
of
this
research
I
can
also
connect
you
to
the
to
some
of
the
academics
and
the
researchers
who
wrote
These
proposals.
N
Okay,
so
with
that
said,
I'm
gonna
put
down
a
QR
code
and
everybody
can
go
to
that.
You
can
also,
if
you
don't,
have
a
phone
just
enter
that
short
link
down
there,
just
bit
dot
Lee,
slash,
Devcon,
Dash
Dao,
and
that
should
take
you
to
a
spreadsheet
and
a
series
of
worksheets.
Now
I
was
completely
underestimated.
N
The
amount
of
people
that
will
be
in
this
room
right
now,
I
honestly
thought
there
would
be
like
at
most
five
tables
of
around,
like
30
people,
I
think
we
actually
have
capacity
here
around
120.,
okay,
which
is
going
to
be
great
because
we're
gonna
get
lots
of
data
and
had
lots
of
great
conversations,
but
I'm
gonna
count
down.
So
just
note
your
table
because
you're
going
to
be
each
table
is
going
to
be
assigned
to
a
worksheet
and
that's
first
off.
N
Do
people
have
people
found
the
spreadsheet
you
can
see
what's
in
there?
Okay,
great
so
I'm,
going
to
count
down
the
tables
from
here.
So
this
is
going
to
be
table.
N
One
table
two:
three:
four:
in
the
back:
five
six:
seven
you're,
seven,
eight
nine,
ten,
eleven
twelve
thirteen
fourteen
I'm
glad
I
can
count,
because
that
is
exactly
the
number
of
sheets
in
that
spreadsheet
and
I
want
you
to
go
through
that
spreadsheet
and
you'll
find
links
to
these
proposals
and
descriptions
and
you'll
you'll
be
able
to
go
through
the
entire
thing.
So
what
I
would
like
you
to
do?
Well,
I
think
this
thing
doesn't
work.
N
Oh
no,
never
mind,
okay,
so
for
the
first
five
minutes
and
I'm
gonna
break
shortly
and
I'll
just
walk
around
and
sort
of
answer
questions,
but
in
the
first
five
minutes,
I
really
encourage
you
to
just
take
a
short
time
to
introduce
yourselves
to
the
table,
see
what
kind
of
backgrounds
are
you
like
peop?
Is
it
mostly
developers,
technical
people,
non-technical,
social
scientists
or
some
I
know?
There
are
definitely
some
researchers
interest
person
here
briefly
introduce
yourselves
and
then
just
chat.
You
know
go
through
these
proposals.
N
Try
to
understand
them
talk
about
like
what's
what's
missing,
what's
good,
what's
bad
come
up
with
a
ranking
and
then
you
can
allocate
10
million
dollars
Associated
there
across
these
proposals
at
the
end,
the
last
10
minutes
or
so
we're
going
to
synthesize
some
of
those
conclusions
and
we'll
talk
about
and
we'll
have
come
an
open
question
to
answer
a
session
where
we
can
talk
about
what
are
the
priorities
for
Dow
science,
and
how
can
we
learn
what
kind
of
new
things
do
we
need
to
learn
all
right
with
that
I'll
break
and
we'll
start
these
breakouts.
A
A
A
N
N
N
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
I
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
O
A
N
N
A
A
N
A
L
A
A
A
N
A
N
H
H
N
Same
fridge,
let's
just
like
put
in
your
numbers
over
there
yeah
just
like
yeah,
what's
up.
N
All
right,
the
people
who
have
already
put
in
their
things
oh
come
on
people
there's
no
need
to
sabotage
Dallas
for
non-profits
building
public
goods.
N
All
right,
I
know:
yes,
there's
a
problem
too
many
people
are
editing
at
the
same
time,
so
it's
actually
not
allowing
you
to
edit.
Maybe
this
is
telling
you
you
should
have
gotten
your
rankings
early
in
earlier
on.
Okay,
so
why
don't
we
see
what
we
have
right
now
and
okay?
Could
you
actually?
What
do
we
have?
Okay,
granular
Primacy
primitive
seems
like.
Can
you
scroll
up
and
down
just
go
up
down?
Let's
just
see
like
what
the
rankings
are
actually
I'm,
gonna.
N
Okay,
let's
see
we
have
what's
what's
highest
right
now,
one
is
good.
One
is
good.
12
is
bad.
Okay,
okay,
you
know
what
this
is.
If
you
could
like
slice
it
like,
if
you
go
to
rankings
in
that
little
Dash
bar,
if
you
could
order
it,
the
ranking
by
that
that'd
be
helpful.
N
Oh
my
God
granular
Primacy
Primitives,
all
right.
Okay!
So
that's
that's
interesting
feedback
people
really
like
privacy,
or
maybe
they
just
like
something
like
a
really
solid
computer
science
thing
allocation
900,
almost
a
million
dollars.
Okay,
I
think
Tampa.
Bay
would
be
very
happy
with
that.
So
he
has
a
lot
of
money.
He'll
be
fine.
N
Let's
see!
What's
what's
next,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
in
the
middle
of
the
pack,
but
it
seems
when
the
Dows
win
is
fairly
high
up
there.
You
guys
all
want
Dows
to
win,
or
at
least
avoid
the
places
where
they're
losing
right.
That
seems
like
a
good
plan,
but
it's
interesting
that
they
are
only
getting
half
of
as
much
as
granular
privacy
Primitives.
N
So
people
seem
to
be
putting
a
premium
on
these,
maybe
like
CS
research,
I'm,
just
inferring
here,
challenges
of
digital
public
infrastructure
decently
high
ranking,
but
not
much
allocation,
I,
don't
know
why
all
right
in
this
expense,
that's
left
I'll!
Let
people
explore
this
on
their
own.
It's
kind
of
like
an
interesting
data
set.
N
If
you
I
would
really
encourage
you
to,
if
you're
already
on
these
groups,
that
kind
of
just
refine
the
data
a
bit
because
I'll
tell
you
why,
so
this
data
is
going
to
be
refined
and
clean
up
a
little
bit
and
then
we're
so
right
now.
This
is
10
million
dollars
in
fake
money
or
fake
fake
money
right.
N
So
we
will
be
giving
some
of
this
data
to
a
bunch
of
different
vendors,
ethereum,
Foundation
uniswap,
the
World
Bank
National,
Science
Foundation,
and
trying
to
actually
building
together
that
10
million
dollar
Grant
to
fund
the
future
of
Dow
science,
and
this
will
be
directly
from
the
community
saying
these
are
our
priorities.
This
is
what
we
care
about.
N
At
least
you
know
with
this,
this
sampling
of
research
proposals
that
are
currently
out
there,
and
hopefully
this
will
help
guide,
if
not
the
next
10
years,
at
the
very
least,
the
next
two
to
three
years
of
funding
decisions.
So
I
really
really
encourage
you
to
go
back,
and
you
know
at
least
fix
that
rough
mistake
come
on.
Who
did
that?
N
Who
did
that
I'm
gonna
find
you
I
will
find
you
I,
like
non-profits
I'll,
also
just
get
a
little
bit
background
of
This
research
project,
so
this
is
as
I
mentioned.
This
is
part
of
a
longer
project
to
build
up
the
infrastructure
for
Dao
research
and
for
Dow
science.
N
So,
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
researchers,
even
for
those
of
you
who
are
you
know,
there's
a
different
set
of
incentives
in
institutions
that
you
need
in
order
to
build
an
effective
research
ecosystem
right
to
be
able
to
produce
results
that
have
implications,
not
just
you
know,
three
months
or
six
months,
but
ten
years
down
the
line
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
working
together.
I
won't
pull
up
the
sort
of
the
data
set
again,
but
the
or
the
slides.
N
Rather,
but
actually
could
you
go
back
to
the
slides
and
go
to
the
the
the
slides
Devcon
22
that
that
tab
tab
at
the
top
anyways
go
to
dowscience.org
you'll
see
all
this
sort
of
previewed
there
and
it
has
an
explainer
for
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Basically,
a
collection
of
some
of
the
main
research
organizations
in
the
Dow
space,
including
metagov,
the
dial,
research
Collective
and
the
smart
contract
Research
Forum.
N
Basically,
a
bunch
of
nonprofits
are
teaming
up
in
order
to
organize
this
field
of
Dow
science
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
sort
of
synthesize
and
bring
together
practitioners,
many
of
which
are
represent
in
this
room
with
scientists.
And
how
do
we
onboard
practitioners
more
into
science
and,
of
course,
attract
more
scientists,
more
academics,
people
from
really
a
large
variety
of
different
backgrounds
into
this
space,
to
make
it
stronger
to
make
it
more
vibrant
and
to
ultimately
solve
some
of
the
problems
that
we
care
about
so
yeah.
N
C
N
Yeah,
so
the
question
was
about
Dolly
and
the
fact
that
the
dolly
proposal
and
the
fact
that
it
didn't
really
make
sense-
or
it
didn't
communicate
a
sense
of
like
this
is
the
ultimate
end
right.
N
This
is
the
broader
impact,
and
the
reason
we
put
that
in
here
as
part
of
the
sample
is
because
it
turns
out
there's
well,
it
turns
out
funding
goes
everywhere,
but
also
there's
actually
a
lot
of
very
playful
proposals
coming
out
of
places
like
art,
schools
or
collaborations
between
art,
schools
and
engineering
schools
that
are
much
more
exploratory
that
don't
have
a
sense
of
like.
Oh,
this
is
the
ultimate
benefit
to
Dallas
right,
and
this
is
actually
one
of
the
the
reasons
I
think
it's
important
to
think
about.
N
Dow
research
and
DOW
science,
apart
from
standard
like
VC
investment
tracks,
is
that
you
can
fund
these
kinds
of
more
speculative
proposals
that
don't
have
any
specific
impact
in
mind.
They're
just
play
right.
It's
a
little
book
like
art,
like
dolly
any
other
questions
in
the
back.
N
How
can
we
use
these
will
also
think
through
these
questions?
Yeah
yeah,
so
these
proposals
will
eventually
all
be
synthesized
into
a
big
survey.
N
Paper
called
open
problems
and
DOW
science
and
it'll
be
much
easier
to
consume
and
shorter
and
have
also
citations,
and
you
can
see
It'll
be
like
a
kind
of
like
a
nice,
concise
way
to
sort
of
share
that
with
your
Dao,
where
the
practitioners
here
down
the
other
side
of
this,
is
that
obviously
like
and
how
do
I
say
it
and
there's
different
ways
being
built
by
different
organizations,
including,
as
I
mentioned,
medical
of
DRC
and
scurf,
to
figure
out
ways
to
how
do
I
say
it
shorten
the
pipeline
from
production
of
research
to
application
of
that
research
in
science?
N
We
call
this
like
translational
research
right
and
there's
efforts
to
do
that.
It
just
takes
time
and
it
takes
building
institutions.
This
is
why
it's
important
to
build
a
research
ecosystem,
because
you
can't
just
researchers
like
doing
random
or
academics.
You
know
spounding
Theory.
You
need
to
have
this
whole
other
piece
of
infrastructure
that
like
pays
attention
to
this
stuff
and
then
figures
out.
This
is
the
part,
that's
useful,
these
are
the
experiments.
We're
actually
going
to.
You
know,
put
money
into
running
yeah.
C
Yeah
I
think
one
question
I
had
was
more
like
on,
like
like
10
million,
is
a
good
example,
because,
probably
most
of
those
like
don't
need
much
money
at
all,
but
like
below
a
certain
threshold.
They
also
couldn't
do
anything
so
I
wonder
if
there
could
be
like
something
like
with
more
skin
in
the
game,
like
a
git
coin,
run
on
like
purely
dial
signs,
where
you,
for
example,
like
as
an
active
down
member,
get
higher
matching.
C
So
actually
the
people
that
I
actually
have
an
idea
of
dials
like
have
like
high
metric
but
I.
Think
yeah,
like
signaling,
also
like
what's
the
minimum
money
needed
and
the
maximum
so
you're,
actually
almost
more
like
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
know
the
as
process
of
funding
that
so
I
think
there's
like
ways
to
improve
the
allocation
over.
N
N
This
exercise
was
at
Stanford
with
a
panel
including
guy
from
accz
Aya
from
the
ethereum
foundation
and
Scott
from
getcoin,
and
very
much
into
this
idea
of
yeah
doing
something,
some
sort
of
quadratic
funding
infrastructure
and
we
actually
been
talking
with
Bitcoin
because
they
recently
are
trying
to
make
their
funding
package
a
little
bit
more
like
a
protocol,
yeah
doing
like
a
test
run
of
that,
or
maybe
just
doing
a
like
a
like
a
funding
around
that
specific
data
towards
science.
Very
much
exploring
that
all
right.
Amazing.
N
N
N
I
I
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
G
G
G
Wow
this
is
crazy.
We
were
not
expecting
this
many
people
in
the
room.
So
that's
that's
really
cool,
but
that's
also
going
to
be
a
challenge
because
we're
going
to
do
a
workshop
and
workshopping
is
pretty
difficult
with
more
than
100
people,
but
we're
gonna
pull
it
off.
Thanks
for
being
here,
my
name
is
Dennis.
This
is
my
colleague
Thiago.
We
are
with
maker,
Dao
and
I'm
not
going
to
talk
much
about
what
we
do,
because
we
don't
have
time
for
that.
G
We
are
here
today
to
solve
some
Dow
governance
challenges
that
are
real
so,
like
we
selected
four
challenges
from
friends
from
the
web
3
space
that
are
dealing
with
some
problems
and
we're
going
to
try
and
find
some
some
inspiration
for
that
and
another
goal
is
to
get
some
of
you
more
familiar
with
design
thinking
methodologies,
because
it's
a
really
powerful
way
of
innovating.
G
We
actually
did
a
workshop
at
devconnect
earlier
this
year
in
Amsterdam,
and
that
was
like
a
different
Workshop.
It
was
like
a
fully
fledged
design
Sprint
with
a
small
group.
That's
what
we
had
in
mind
for
today,
but
we
actually
yeah.
We
decided
to
switch
it
up
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
of
context.
G
A
design
Sprint
is
usually
like
a
workshop,
quite
an
intense
Workshop,
multiple
days,
small
team,
where
you,
basically
you
innovate
and
you
you
validate
ideas,
so
you
create
a
concept
and
validate
it
without
actually
building
anything
like
without
writing.
A
single
line
of
code
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
yeah
the
notion
of
innovating
without
building
is
something
that
we
should
embrace
as
a
space.
So
for
those
who
haven't
heard
about
design
thinking
design
Sprint,
this
might
be
a
good
first
experience
for
you.
G
What
we're
going
to
do
today.
We
have
one
hour
and
40
minutes
and
we're
going
to
guide
you
through
a
very
intense
process
that
the
time
is
our
biggest
enemy.
Today,
we're
going
to
do
Divergent
and
convergent
thinking
so,
basically,
initially
we're
going
to
do
a
brain
dump
where
we
try
and
get
as
much
feedback
and
no
ideas
and
inspiration
on
the
table
as
possible,
and
then
we're
going
to
do
a
voting
exercise
to
create
some
kind
of
abstraction
and
then
we're
going
to
do
that
again,
but
then
for
creating
a
solution.
G
The
agenda
is:
we
have
four
challenge
owners
from
various
doubts
in
a
room
they're
going
to
take
five
minutes
to
present
their
their
Challenge
and
give
some
context
and
then
we're
basically
going
to
break
up
some
of
the
tables
in
this
room
are
going
to
be
focusing
on
those
challenges,
so
we're
going
to
do
some
kind
of
the
information.
G
If
you
don't
feel
like
actively
participating,
that's
completely
fine
I
mean
that's
actually
welcome,
because
we
have
way
too
many
people.
So
if
you
just
want
to
listen
in
no
hard
feelings,
if
you
just
want
to
listen
in
and
just
walk
around,
please
feel
free
to
do
so.
If
you
want
to
commit
to
participating,
please
participate
and
be
here
for
the
full
two
hours
yeah.
This
is
what
I
just
mentioned.
Let's
just
have
a
look
at
the
challenges
and
then
we're
going
to
do.
L
G
Then
we're
going
to
switch
to
the
ideation
process
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
Shelby
and
Abby
from
the
radical
team.
P
Hi
guys,
my
name
is
Abby
nice
to
meet
you
I'm,
the
head
of
community
and
governance
at
radical
and
I
said
on
the
board
of
the
radical
foundation.
For
those
who
don't
know,
radical
radical
is
basically
a
protocol
ecosystem.
P
That's
based
building
decentralized
collaboration
tools
for
developers,
building
decentralized,
Technologies
and
so
like
the
tldr
is
decentralized
GitHub,
but
it's
a
lot
more
things
than
that
as
well,
and
so
radical
has
been
on
a
journey
for
the
last
year
or
two
and
we've
been
slowly
progressively
decentralizing
in
our
efforts
to
become
like
a
truly
open
source,
free
and
open
source,
self-sustaining,
Community
owned
and
operated
free
and
open
source
project
free
and
open
source,
I
said
twice,
but
you
get
the
picture
and
so
over
the
last
year
two
years
we
made
a
successful
transition
from
a
startup
to
a
foundation
and
we
launched
our
governance
token
rad
and
we
became
a
Dao.
P
But
if
everybody
here
is,
has
experience
with
Dows,
you
know
that
becoming
a
dow.
It
doesn't
just
happen
when
you
technically
decentralize
there's
a
lot
of
social
and
political
decentralization.
That
comes
along
with
that.
So
now
we're
on
our
next
chapter,
the
first
of
many,
which
is
furthering
our
transition
to
the
Dao
by
dissolving
our
foundation
Council,
which
currently
manages
all
of
our
project
development,
our
core
teams
that
are
contributing
to
maintaining
the
radical
stack
and
replacing
that
with
decentralized
entities
that
our
contributors
run
and
operate
themselves
and
restructuring
our
governance
process
along
the
way.
P
There's
a
lot
more
of
this
on
discourse,
if
you
want
to
learn
more
at
radical.community,
but
basically
our
goal
is
to
create
a
decentralized
organization
that
can
manage
all
of
our
project
development
within
the
Dow,
without
relying
on
the
intermediary
of
a
foundation
Council
and
in
that
process.
Stuart.
The
emergence
of
other
organizations
within
the
radical
dial
ecosystem
by
Distributing
ownership
influence
and
supporting
you
know
the
generation
of
more
decentralized
governed
entities
that
all
are
Steward
and
funded
by
our
radical
treasury.
Wow.
L
P
So
that's
the
transition,
so
our
challenge,
which
is
something
that
we've
been
thinking
about
in
this
transition.
We
have
four
work
streams
right.
One
is
the
actual
org
design.
So
how
do
you
actually
build
an
organization
for
our
contributors
to
participate
in?
The
second
is
Dow
tooling?
What
are
the
best
tools
that
we
can
be
using
to?
Actually
you
know
Steward
this
decentralization
process
and
then
the
last
two
are
what
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
today,
which
is
a
distribution
of
ownership
and
the
distribution
of
influence.
So
I
think
everybody
knows
that
token.
P
Voting
governance
govern
Dows
are
pretty
plutocratic
right
now,
if
not
entirely
plutocratic,
including
radical,
and
we're
trying
to
change
that.
So
first
we're
trying
to
distribute
ownership
in
a
way
that
better
supports
the
transition
of
our
project
to
something
more
member-based
more
with
highly
diverse
stakeholder
governance.
P
That's
not
plutocratic
has
more
fair
and
Equitable
qualities
and
can
better
support
the
long-term
sustainability
of
the
project,
but
we
think
that
that's
not
possible
without
actually
introducing
a
non-financialized
governance
layer
which
we
call
influence.
So
our
challenge
is
about
how
do
we
effectively
distribute
influence
and
ownership
as
separate
financialized
governing
power,
which
is
tokens
and
non-financialist
power,
which
is
who
knows
what?
P
And
how
do
we
distribute
that,
amongst
active
contributors
of
the
Dow,
to
better
support
the
transition
of
our
governed
instructor
to
something
static
and
plutocratic
to
something
Dynamic
and
member-based,
and
more
fair
and
Equitable
so
cool
thanks?
So
Shelby
is
right
here,
so
we'll
be
walking
around
with
our
Challenge,
and
you
can
ask
us
any
questions
along
the
way.
Thanks
see,
that's.
G
You
can
tell
that
she's
done
this
before
thanks
a
lot
Abby,
it's
important
that
you
take
note
of
the
challenges,
because
the
idea
is
that
every
table
picks
a
challenge
to
focus
on
and
then
some
of
you
that
might
be
interested
in
actively
participating
that
you
really
focus
on
that
challenge.
So
keep
that
in
mind.
G
O
Hi,
my
name
is
Peyton
I
go
by
Pros
11
online
and
I
am
one
of
makers,
governance,
facilitators,
yeah,
you
might
have
heard
a
maker
you've
probably
heard
of
die.
I
bet
in
this
room,
we're
probably
batting
better
than
average,
but
I
guess
our
problem
with
with
governance
right
you'll
you'll
hear
about
it
in
tweets,
you'll
see
about
it
in
news
articles,
but
it
has
to
happen
all
the
time
right,
whether
someone's
watching
or
I
guess,
whether
Everyone's,
Watching
or
just
a
few
people
are
watching
governance.
Is
there?
O
Governance
is
a
risk
that
kind
of
transitions
into
the
workforce,
which
is
this
whole
separate
thing
that
intertwines
with
governance.
Sin
is
a
part
of
it
yet
is
entirely
separate
as
well.
So
you
might
have
read
the
articles
I
make
or
you
might
have
seen
some
bits
of
runes
grand
plan
or
seen
banteg
tweet
about
how
dye's
gonna
lose
its
Peg.
Or
what
have
you?
O
But
basically
fundamentally,
I
would
like
to
argue
that
the
problem
that
roon
is
pitching
to
try
to
solve
is
how
might
we
reallocate
the
workforce
to
be
more
efficient
and
I?
Don't
think
this
is
a
problem
that
you
have
to
be
at
the
size
of
make
it
out
to
encounter
I.
Think
it's
fundamentally
a
problem
of
scaling.
O
Every
Dao
starts
out
with
this
really
awesome
problem,
which
is
we
have
a
very
cool
solution
and
not
enough
people
know
about
it.
So
what
do
you
do?
You
start
ramping
up?
You
start
bringing
people
into
the
workforce
and
giving
them
jobs,
making
them
contributors
having
them.
You
know
one
way
or
another
be
a
part
of
your
ecosystem
and
before
too
long
you
realize
okay.
Well,
maybe
our
problem
isn't
that
we
don't
have
enough
people
who
know
about
our
system
now.
O
Maybe
our
problem
is
that
the
way
we
have
organized
in
in
an
alternative
structure
right
that
typically
bucks
hierarchy
and
and
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
direct
reporting.
How
do
we
take
that
and
actually
make
sure
that
we
are
getting
the
value
of
all
the
talented
individuals
that
have
joined
organization?
O
So
when
I
like
to
approach
this
problem,
I
think
it's
important
to
think
about
two
sides,
because
it's
really
obvious
from
the
Dow
side
why
you
might
want
a
more
efficient
Workforce
right,
just
like
every
corporation
wants
to
squeeze
out
the
most
profit.
Your
doubt
is
going
to
want
to
take
a
look
at
your
Workforce
and
say
all
right.
How
can
we
get
these
people
to
to
reach
their
potential
and
to
give
that
value
to
us?
But
you
also
have
to
think
about
it
from
the
worker
side.
O
Workers
endows
are
incredibly
autonomous
right
the
if
they
don't
want
to
be
there.
They'll
find
something
else
to
do.
There's
plenty
of
money
in
the
web
through
ecosystem
and
yeah,
if
you're,
not
thinking
about
them.
O
When
you're
trying
to
solve
this
problem,
you're
you're
going
to
fall
short,
so
I
want
to
put
in
a
little
plug
about
burnout,
because
I
think
that's
a
problem
with
with
tech
with
Dows
with
our
industry
at
Large,
but
Studies
have
shown
that,
like
the
key
thing
you
can
do
to
prevent
burnout
with
an
organization
is
to
make
sure
people
feel
valued
to
make
sure
that
their
work
is
being
appreciated
and
the
only
way
that
people
are
going
to
appreciate
their
work
is
if
they
feel
like
they
are
making
an
impact.
O
So
the
challenge
is,
as
you
grow
as
you
scale.
How
do
you
make
sure
that
the
talent
you
have
is
being
properly
utilized
because
whether
it's
a
treasury
or
intellectual
property,
if
you
have
a
resource
and
you're,
not
constantly
checking
in
making
sure
that
you're
getting
the
most
out
of
it,
you're
going
to
lose
efficiency,
you're
going
to
lose
the
battle
to
entropy?
And
you
know
a
dow
can
die.
Many
Taos
have
died.
O
I
would
not
like
to
be
one
of
them,
and
I
would
certainly
not
like
to
be
the
governor's
facilitator
if
the
Dao
were
to
die.
So
maybe
you
can
help
me
today
and
we
can
think
about
how
can
we
make
our
Workforce
reallocation
be
the
most
efficient
way,
keeping
in
mind
that
there
are
two
distinct
sides
we
need
to
think
about
the
worker
and
the
Dow
itself.
Thanks.
G
Thank
you
very
much
Peyton.
That
was
really
good.
If
there's
anyone
at
maker,
who
is
in
in
sync
in
tune
with
what's
happening
at
the
Tao,
it's
Peyton.
So
if
you
can,
if
any
of
you
can
somehow
give
some
kind
of
inspiration
or
New
Perspective
on
this
problem,
that
could
be
really
actually
really
impactful,
because
there's
actually
a
lot
of
maker
people
in
the
room.
So
I
hope
you
can
contribute
to
this
challenge
that
we're
facing
moving
on
to
the
third
challenge,
which
is
brought
forward
by
zaku
from
gordonape.
Q
Hi
everybody
so
I
am
indeed
Zach
from
coordinate
and
for
those
that
don't
know,
chord
nape,
it's
actually
a
tool
to
help
employees
feel
or
employees
to
yeah.
Exactly
good
thing,
I
didn't
say
that
to
help
contributors
to
a
doubt
feel
more
appreciated
and
also
compensated
so
quickly.
The
way
that
coordinate
works
is
in
a
circle
of
contributors.
Q
And
so
the
idea
is
to
get
closer
to
Value
n
equals
value
out
right.
Those
contributors
that
are
just
like
really
crushing
it
and
everyone's
really
appreciating
here's
your
chance
to
appreciate
them
with
payment
and
also
write
notes
to
them
and
tell
them
about
why
you
appreciate
what
they're
doing
and
then
it
creates
the
social
graph.
So
everyone
can
see
who's,
adding
value
and
what
they're
doing
so.
It
also
helps
a
lot
with
sense
making
in
the
Dow.
That
said
so,
my
previous
company.
Q
This
is
the
way
that
we
paid
each
other
for
like
all
seven
years,
and
we
always
said
that
the
conversation
is
actually
more
valuable
than
the
allocation
itself,
because,
as
we
were
paying
each
other,
we
were
like
here's.
What
you
did.
It
was
awesome.
Here's
what
you
could
do
better
at
coordinate.
One
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
is
that
you
have
this
distribution,
and
so
everyone's
and
it's
all
transparent
and
you
can
see
like
oh
wow
Sally-
got
this
much
and
wait.
Q
Why
did
she
get
that
much
more
than
me
and
why
did
Steve
get
this
much
to
Camille
and
wait?
What's
what's
going
on
right
and,
and
so
the
sense
making
part
and
really
understanding,
especially
like
as
a
dialect?
What
do
we
value?
Is
this
person
getting
more
because
they're
more
public
in
their
role,
or
is
it
because
what
they're
doing
is
super
valuable
like?
Are
we
allocating,
according
to
what
we
really
think
is
in
line
with
the
mission
that
we're
trying
to
achieve?
And
so
the
question
really
is
like?
Q
How
do
we
asynchronously
do
sense?
Making?
Because
it's
just
not
practical
to
say
we're
going
to
have
our
coordinate
retro
and
all
40
people
are
going
to
meet
and
on
zoom
we're
all
going
to
talk
about
what
happened?
We
are
doing
lots
of
MVPs
with
like
small
groups
and
pulse
surveys,
and
things
like
this,
but
there's
a
lot
of
issues
in
Dallas
when
they
get
sensitive,
and
you
know
if
you
just
start
writing
on
Discord
like
that,
encourages
a
very
certain
kind
of
conversation.
It's
obviously
like
we
are
not
evolved
to
be
text-based
communicators.
Q
All
most
of
our
communication
is
non-verbal
and
now
we're
trying
to
do
this
through
screens
around
really
sensitive
topics,
especially
in
coordinates
case
around
like
compensation
which
gets
into
how
people
feel
valued.
And
you
know
these
are
like
really
hot
topics
and
there's
a
lot
more
I'm
sure
in
in
all
the
Dows
you're
a
part
of,
and
so
how
can
we
address
these
really
sensitive
and
nuanced
topics
and
do
sense
making
in
an
asynchronous
decentralized
way?
Q
You
know,
obviously
like
coming
together
as
a
team
is
the
best
way,
but
that's
not
usually
possible
so
yeah.
This
is
the
sticky
problem
that
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about.
G
Thanks
Zach,
interesting
stuff
and
I
think
for
some
of
us
we
can
relate
so
yeah.
Let's
move
on
to
the
fourth
challenge
posed
by
Patricia
from
Euler
Finance
I
always
said:
Euler
Finance,
but
it's
actually
Euler,
so
I've
heard
so
yeah.
Let's
give
her
a
hand
and
let's
hear
what
she
has
to
say.
E
Hey
guys
so
yeah
I'm
from
Euler
Finance,
it's
pronounced
as
Euler.
This
is
not
called
Yola.
It's
it's
wrong,
so
our
protocol
that
nobody
even
knows
how
to
pronounce
the
name
and
that
kind
of
reflects
the
the
governor's
problems
we're
currently
facing,
which
is
like
low
Community
engagement,
because
the
product
itself
is
less
well
known
and
at
the
same
time
it's
highly
technical.
E
So
the
problem
we're
currently
facing
is
basically
like
we
launched
around
around
like
November
last
year,
so
right
before,
like
everything
crashed
basically,
and
we
did
the
Token
Lounge
about
in
in
May
that
was
like
when
the
market
was
like
pretty
bad
and
we
didn't
do
public
Token
Lounge
with,
like
the
token
sales
with
services.
So
from
that
side,
it's
like
there's
very
little
people
to
be
fair,
that
I
have
vested
interest
within
the
protocol
and
a
lot
of
the
technical
people
were
trying
to
onboard
right
now.
E
They
do
not
have
a
vested
interest
within
the
protocol.
They
do
not
have
the
token.
At
the
same
time,
the
thing
we
have
with
the
governance
is
like
we're:
trying
to
have
the
governance
to
decide
on
the
parameters
of
the
protocols,
such
as
like
learning
and
borrowing
factors.
We
thought
that
would
be
the
best
way
to
decentralize
the
protocol
to
make
it
really
permissionless
learning
and
boring
and
listening
for
us
as
to
be
clusters.
However,
what
we
realized
is
that
not
everyone
have
that
knowledge
to
be
calculating
classical
factors.
E
E
So
that's
like
the
main
problem
we're
facing
is
that
where
we
were
trying
to
lead
the
governance
to
be
like
and
what
the
governance
is
currently
at,
so
the
problem
that
was
like
I'm
presenting
today
are
the
problem
that
I'm
trying
to
ask
you
all
to
contribute
and
help
you
to
solve
is
how
can
we
solve
the
community
engagement
problem
within
a
highly
technical
protocol,
Community
think
about
Euler
as
a
protocol.
A
baby
protocol
has
a
baby
governance.
Everything
is
very
primitive.
E
The
very
little
people
have
vested
interests,
and
people
like
outside
of
the
community
or
even
within
the
community
cannot
even
pronounce
the
name
of
the
protocol.
So
that's
a
problem.
We're
currently
facing
and
I
think
it's
a
problem
that
exists
across
a
lot
of
like
other
technical
protocols,
identify
protocols
and
I.
Think
it's
something
that
in
general,
how
do
we
encourage
people
that
currently
do
not
have
the
knowledge
to
be
participating
at
the
same
time
encourage
those
who
have
the
knowledge
to
be
participating
in
the
governance
and
be
contributing
so
awesome.
Thank.
D
G
G
If
I
have
the
Mandate
I
would
say
I'm
just
going
to
point
out
a
few
tables
and
a
number,
and
if
you
really
want
to
join
a
particular
Challenge
and
you
can
just
move
to
the
table
with
otherwise
I
would
suggest
you
just
stay
where
you
are
and
try
to
share
your
input.
The
whole
goal
is
to
cross-pollinate
right
I
think
you
all
have
different
perspectives,
different
work
experience
and
I'm
really
curious.
G
What's
going
to
come
out
of
that,
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
assign
these
four
tables
so
this
row
to
the
radical
challenge,
because
we
have
two
radical
facilitators:
I
think
they
can
handle
this
this
row
of
four
tables,
then
we
have,
these
three
I
would
say:
I
would
assign
them
to
Patricia.
G
So
this
this
and
this
so
that
is
Challenge
number
four
and
that
is
Challenge
number
one.
Sorry
yeah,
okay,
and
then
we
have
one
two,
three,
four,
that's
maker
one,
two,
three
four,
so
you're
going
to
be
talking
about
the
Second
Challenge,
and
then
we
have
one
two,
three
that's
going
to
be
coordinate.
G
Does
it
make
sense?
Do
you
all
know
which
challenge
you
you
you're
assigned
with
your
table
and
again,
if
you
really
want
to
join
a
particular
challenge,
feel
free
to
move
around
and
try
and
organize
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
few
minutes
for
it
in
the
meantime,
I'm
just
going
to
continue
talking
just
to
explain
what
we
have
in
mind.
G
Once
again,
we
have
an
ideation
process
that
we're
going
to
guide
you
through.
We
have
a
bunch
of
materials
on
your
table
and
you're
going
to
need
that
to
do
the
ideation.
Let's
take
two
minutes
to
organize
yourselves
and
then
we're
gonna
just
continue.
A
A
D
I
A
G
All
right,
everyone
we're
at
time
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
we're
not
mixing
up
stuff,
so
I'm
gonna
have
everyone's
attention.
Please
time
is
at
the
essence.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
going
to
walk
past
each
of
the
table
and
I
want
you
to
shout
which
Challenge
number
you
are
working
on,
just
to
make
sure
we're.
On
the
same
page,
three,
two
one,
three,
two
one,
three,
two
one,
okay!
This
is
all
radical
three,
two
one
four.
So
you
are
oil
of
finance
and
that
one
also
okay.
G
G
We
have
three
tables
for
Payton
for
maker
and
we
have
four
tables
for
a
reticle.
That's
correct,
right!
Awesome,
then
I
think
we're
ready
to
go
we're
going
to
have
the
inner
facilitators
right.
The
challenge
owners
they're
going
to
be
at
your
tables
and
they're,
going
to
be
available
for
helping
with
ideation,
because
we
actually
briefed
them
a
little
bit,
but
also
to
give
more
Challenge
on
the
on
the
yeah
more
context
about
the
challenge.
G
I'm
going
to
hand
the
mic
over
to
my
colleague
Thiago
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
ideation
practices.
Please
please
pay
attention
because
yeah
we're
gonna
have
to
do
this
asynchronously
now.
So,
let's
get
it
Thiago.
R
R
You
come
up
with
as
many
ideas
as
possible,
literally
open
your
brain,
then
you're
gonna
have
one
one
voting
process
called
democracy,
so
you
need
to
select
the
most
likable
ideas,
then
you
so
this
this
will
be
around
the
opportunity
area
and
then
we're
gonna
do
this
loop
again
diverging,
but
hopefully
come
up
already
with
more
craft
solution
and
we're
gonna
convert
again
using
the
Democracy,
hopefully
find
a
solution
that
we
are
all
happy
with
in
within
your
table.
R
So
we
a
lot
of
people
we
move
around.
So
maybe
just
take
five
minutes
to
introduce
yourself.
You
don't
need
to
tell
the
story
of
our
life,
just
your
name
where
you
work
and
why
you
join
this
Workshop.
Just
take
five
minutes
to
within
your
group.
Introduce
yourself
give
a
little
round
one
minute
per
each.
Just
real,
quick.
R
R
R
R
R
R
Hope
everyone
know
each
other
now
a
bit
a
bit
better
within
your
group.
We're
gonna
start
the
first
exercise
yeah,
so
so
this
is
just
a
quick
way
to
download
your
brains
to
brain
them.
It's
a
conversation
starter,
so
the
first
exercise
there
are
buying
sheets
on
your
table.
Please
just
use
one
or
two
divide
into
three
columns
and
then
write
I
like
I,
wish
and
I
wonder,
and
there
we
will.
Everyone
will
be
putting
posters
on
each
column
so
in
the
I
like
colon.
R
So
this
will
be
something
that
inspires
you,
something
that
is
you
already
know.
These
are
resistance,
existing
Solutions
yeah.
So
just
some
references
on
the
I
wish
yeah
so
based
on
this
existing
Solutions,
maybe
there's
something
that
could
be
improved.
Maybe
there
are
new
features
that
you
thought
out
so
that
will
be
on
the
I
wish
colon
and
then
finally,
we
have
the
I
wonder
colon.
So
this
will
be
solutions
that
don't
exist
just
yet
so
be
more.
Your
future
Vision!
You
can
free
your
brain
a
bit
more.
R
Maybe
you
wonder
if
this
is
feasible,
this
be
possible.
Maybe
you'll
do
a
bit
of
reflection
about
any
unintended
consequences
yeah.
So
it's
more
the
future
scenarios
again.
So
three
columns
I
like
I,
wish
I
wonder
one
or
two
buying
sheets
per
foreign.
R
Do
it
introspectively
in
silence,
unless
you
want
to
explain
what
you
mean
or
someone
don't
understand,
explain
to
your
table
yeah.
So,
let's,
let's
get
started
eight
minutes!
G
G
G
I
G
G
G
G
G
A
R
R
R
All
right
all
right,
so
don't
worry
it's
not
a.
We
don't
need
Perfection.
We
just
need
some.
We
just
just
needed
some
information
to
get
the
conversation
started
now,
of
course,
I'm
sure
there
are
different
solutions
on
the
table,
so
you
need
to
align
our
brains
within
your
own
groups.
So
at
this
system
it's
called
dot,
mockery,
C,
so
do
democracy
is
just
a
way
to
help
you
votes
on
the
most
likable
items
that
you
have
on
the
table.
R
Just
just
find
some
alignment
within
your
home
group,
so
you'll
have
five
minutes,
and
now
you
are
short
on
Sharpies,
but
yeah
share.
Share
your
pens
around
user
pens
to
to
place
three
dots,
three
dots
per
person
and
per
colon
on
your
on
your
most
likable
items,
and
there
are
maybe
there
are
similar
items,
try
to
Cluster
them
a
little
bit
and
yeah
see.
What's
the
the
spirit
in
your
table
see
what
what
your,
what
your
group
like
the
most
so
let's
yeah.
N
R
G
G
G
I
A
A
R
R
All
right
all
right,
I,
know
I,
know
you're
ready
ahead
of
the
game
into
the
discussion
part.
So
that's
good.
So
just
make
sure
you
look
again
to
the
postage
you
have
on
the
table.
Make
sure
you
look
at
the
you
find
the
heat
map
you,
you
find
the
ones
that
the
ones
with
the
most
dots
and
again
this
is
not
to
come
up
with
the
solution
just
yet
try
to
focus
on
the
opportunity
areas
for
the
time
being.
R
So,
let's,
let's
give
us
eight
minutes
just
to
find
the
right
opportunity
area.
R
R
C
R
Now
we
should,
you
should
focus
the
ones
with
the
most
votes.
That's
that's
the
ones
you
should
be
discussing
about
it
and
keep
it
away
for
so
just
to
clarify
you
don't
need
to
look
at
all
the
postage.
Just
look
at
the
Post-its
with
the
most
dots,
those
those
are
the
ones
we
are
converging
at
the
moment,
so
to
look
at
the
possibly
the
most
dots,
those
those
are
the
ones
where
your
brain
should
be
focused
on.
R
E
L
A
G
G
A
A
R
A
A
G
R
All
right,
so
less
is
a
site.
I
know.
Most
of
you
are
freestyling
going
with
your
home
methods
and
that's
totally
fine,
but
I
mean
this
is
also
a
good
one.
So
it's
called
Crazy
Eights,
so
basically
yeah
you'll
So,
based
on
the
opportunity
area
that
your
table
selected
we're
gonna,
come
up
with.
We
call
it
crazy,
eight
Solutions,
so
you
can
either
draw
or
or
write
whatever
is
easy
for
you
to
to
to
depict
the
solution.
So
this
is
more
a
concept
creation.
R
You
can
go
a
bit
wildly
nonsense,
but
we
are
trying
to
diverge
as
much
as
possible,
but
again
focus
on
the
challenge.
Focus
on
the
opportunity
area.
Try
to
stick
to
one
meet
one
minute
per
post:
it
one
idea
per
post
it
and
since
we
are
many
groups,
maybe
try
to
have
a
two
plan.
Two
sheets
on
the
table
try
to
have
two
crazy,
eight
sheets
on
the
table
and
again
we're
gonna
have
eight
minutes
for
each.
For,
for
this
exercise,
yeah,
let's
get
started.
G
Yeah,
maybe
just
to
clarify,
because
everyone
can
we
have
attention,
he
plays
Crazy,
Eights,
hey
hello!
Thank
you
very
much.
Crazy
Eights
is
a
bit
of
an
abstract
one,
so
you
need
to
understand
it.
Well,
it's
also
the
most
fun
one,
and
the
idea
is
that
you
make
a
sketch
of
your
idea.
It
can
be
like
a
drawing.
G
It
can
be
a
diagram
it
has
to
fit
on
a
Post-It,
so
it
has
to
be
really
succinct
and
you're
actually
going
to
make
eight
very
rapid
iterations,
so
we're
going
to
do
very
strict
time,
keeping
after
one
minute
you
you
leave
that
posted
alone.
You
move
on
to
the
next
one,
so
each
table
only
has
about
two
or
three
of
those
sheets,
so
we
actually
need
two
or
three
people
on
the
table
to
step
forward.
G
M
So
wondering
if
we
could
just
should
we
just
pick
one
and
go
with
it.
We
should.
G
Just
pick
one
and
go
with
it
because
the
whole
goal
of
this
thing
I'll
say
it
here:
another
good
thing
to
know
the
nice
thing
about
Crazy
Eights.
Is
it
excavates
your
subconscious
to
to
participate
in
the
in
the
creative
process,
so
really
trust
that
just
pick
something
if
you're
not
sure
yet
just
pick
something
and
just
go
for
it.
Let's
just
create
a
solution.
A
G
G
G
A
A
A
R
G
G
G
G
All
right,
everyone
Let's,
let's
do
a
quick
pause
here,
so
we
are
nearing
the
end
of
the
workshop
and
the
idea
is
that
you
still
have
some
time.
You
have
eight
minutes
in
total
to
prepare
Your
solution
and
and
your
explanation
to
other
tables.
G
So
in
short,
in
eight
minutes,
I'm
going
to
ask
each
of
the
tables
to
share
your
biggest
takeaway
or
like
the
tldr,
or
maybe
anything
that
you're
struggling
with
just
try
and
give
some
kind
of
abstract
of
the
value
that
you've
been
creating
and
try
to
share
it
with
another
table.
I'll
give
you
eight
minutes
to
prepare
that,
and
now
we
still
have
some
time
to
cross-pollinate
between
the
tables.
Good
luck.
F
G
G
A
A
A
A
F
So
we
discovered
Amsterdam's
way
it
was
like.
It
was
great.
We
had
no
idea
that
our
one
of
our
designers.
G
G
Everyone
Let's
take
a
moment
here.
Let's
take
a
moment
here,
Please
assign
one
person
on
your
table.
That's
going
to
to
do
the
talking,
and
the
idea
is
if
it's
correct
each
table
has
been
assigned
another
table
that
they're
going
to
talk
to
and
you're
just
going
to
explain
what
you
came
up
with.
It
can
be
a
tldr
of
your
ID.
It
can
be
the
main
takeaway.
It
could
also
be
if
you've
been
struggling.
G
A
A
G
If
you
haven't
switched
yet
it's
time
to
switch,
let's
take
the
final
minutes
for
the
last
group.
A
A
A
A
I
G
G
We
have
five
more
minutes
and
then
we're
at
the
end
of
the
workshop.
A
A
A
G
G
Dear
friends,
we're
gonna
be
kicked
out.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
energy,
for
your
participation.
Round
of
Applause
you've
been
fantastic,
I
hope
we're
gonna
find
some
gems
in
the
output,
we'll
figure
it
out
over
the
next
few
hours.
Thanks
a
lot.
Don't
forget
your
bow
app
and
have
a
great
conference.