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The future is Collective. Building bridges between the legacy and decentralized systems to fund public goods for the future.
Speaker(s): Pia Mancini
Skill level: Beginner
Track: Opportunity & Global Impact
Keywords: open,democracy
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A
A
Er
and
CEO
at
open,
Collective
and
I'm
thrilled
to
be
here
and
I'm
gonna,
be
talking
today
about
Building
Bridges
between
the
Legacy
and
the
decentralized
ecosystems
to
fund
public
goods
for
the
future.
So
here
we
go
with
not
going
anywhere,
yes,
so
the
tldr.
If
we
want
to
make
philanthropy
tech
for
people
who
are
already
the
winners,
then
we
continue
like
this.
A
A
So,
let's
start
with
the
thought
framework
that
I
use
for
thinking
about
where
we
are
in
the
world
right
now,
and
my
kind
of
tldr
of
the
thought
framework
is
what
you,
what
used
to
be
is
no
longer
fit
for
our
needs.
But
what
will
be
is
not
here
yet
so
the
current
system
is
declining
we're
seeing
a
paradigm
that
is
it's
on
the
way
out
and
we
can
see
maybe
far
in
the
future,
the
Paradigm
that
we
want
to
build,
but
we're
not
there
yet.
So
where
we
are.
A
This
theory
is
called
this
framework
is
called
the
three
Horizons
framework
and
it's
super
useful
for
me
to
figure
out
the
type
of
technology
that
we
want
to
build
the
type
of
questions
that
we
should
be
asking
ourselves
and
kind
of
try
to
make
sense
of
what's
happening
in
the
world
today,
where,
where
are
we?
So
these
three
Horizons
framework
that
was
developed
by
the
international
Futures
forum
is
now
being
applied
by
Daniel
Christian
wall
to
the
transition
towards
regenerative
culture.
A
So,
let's
think
about
this
right,
the
first
horizon
is
the
world
in
crisis
is
what's
what's
on
the
way
out,
it's
the
system
that
it's
no
longer
fit
for
the
type
of
society,
the
type
of
Technology,
the
type
of
education
that
we
have
today.
So
this
is
in
Decline
and
at
the
same
time,
far
far
away.
We
had
this
third
Horizon,
that
is
the
viable
world
and
we
are
bam
Stuck
in
the
Middle,
where
all
the
messiness
is.
It's
called
the
second
Horizon
and
it's
a
world
in
turbulent
transition.
It's
not
clear,
what's
happening.
A
A
The
type
of
information
that
we
want
that
we
can
do
is
sustaining
technology
essentially
building
stuff
to
maintain
the
status
quo
business
as
usual
right.
Let's
keep
the
lights
on
things
like
that,
the
second
horizon,
or
the
type
of
innovation
that
we
see
in
the
second
Horizon
where
we
are
today,
is
called
disruptive
innovation.
This
means
that
we
are
seeing
opportunities.
We
are
seeing
kind
of
shift
happening,
we're
taking
advantage
of
those
changes
and
we're
building
we're
building
technology
that
is
kind
of
redefining
the
scope
of
what's
possible.
A
The
issue
that
we
have
here
and
is
what
I'm
trying
to
argue
today,
is
that
the
type
of
disruptive
technology,
unless
we're
very
careful
in
how
we
build
it
and
with
whom
we
build
it,
we're
going
to
end
up
sustaining
the
life
of
the
previous
Horizon
of
the
of
the
existing
Paradigm,
because
if
we
we,
the
risk
that
we
face
is
to
build
technology.
That
is
just
for
the
winners
of
the
previous
Paradigm,
those
who
are
already
willing
right.
But
when
we
go
to
the
viable
world
the
world
we
want
to
build.
A
The
type
of
innovation
that
we
can
see
is
transformative
Innovation,
it's
Innovation
that
is
really
building
a
new
paradigm,
and
that
means
redistributing
power.
That
means
changing
who's,
who
are
the
winners
and
who
are
marginalized.
Who
are
the
losers
in
the
in
the
political
economy
right?
So
what
I
want
to
argue
here
is
that
web
3
on
this
space
needs
to
start
thinking
about
the
type
of
technology
that
we
we
are
building
oriented
towards
this
viable
World.
A
It
needs
to
be
informed
by
a
long-term
perspective,
so
we
don't
fall
in
the
Trap
of
building
Innovation.
That
looks
great,
but
it's
sustaining
what
we
have
today.
Okay,
so
you
know
just
to
land
it
with
a
meme
old
ways,
the
future
we
want,
and
how
do
we
build
that
bridge
right,
because
when
a
paradigm
declines
and
another
one
is
arising,
it's
not
a
clear
cut,
it's
not
like.
Oh,
this
is
going
to
disappear
and
then
something
else
is
going
to
emerge.
It
doesn't
happen
like
that.
We
need
to
build
Bridges.
A
We
need
to
build
bring
people
over
okay.
So,
in
my
mind,
open
Collective
is
or
can
be
one
of
those
bridges.
So
we've
been
sustaining
decentralized
communities
since
2016.
and
we've
been
doing
it
off
chain
before
Dallas
were
a
thing.
What
are
we
at
the
core?
We
are
legal
admin
and
financial
infrastructure
for
decentralized
communities
to
unlock
access
to
money.
A
So
we
created
this
open
source,
transparent
finances
platform,
and
we
have
a
network
of
245
non-profits
around
the
world
that
help
communities
have
access
to
money
that
otherwise
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
access.
So
the
tech
platform
gives
them
fundraising.
Tooling,
it's
open
source,
transparent
payments.
A
It's
you
know
it's
an
International
Community,
but
like
really,
the
secret
sauce
is
in
this
combination
of
the
platform,
plus
this
network
of
physical
hosts.
The
fiscal
hosts
give
things,
provide
things
to
these
communities
that
these
individuals
need,
and
what
I'm
arguing
here
is
that
if
we
want
to
bring
those
who
today
are
marginalized
by
the
current
system
over
to
the
new
system,
we
need
to
give
them
what
they
need
today
to
survive
and
sustain
themselves,
and
this
is
is
boring
right.
A
It's
like
trust
me,
I
I,
do
this
every
day,
it's
like
not
fun,
right,
proof
of
income,
employment
and
benefits,
reporting
compliance
tax,
the
actual
receipts
right.
You
want
to
make
a
donation
to
a
collective,
we're,
giving
you
a
taxactable
receipts
right.
We
are,
you
need
employment.
You
have
a
collective
that
has
funding.
We
employ
you.
B
A
So
how
you
know
did
we
start
it
all
started
with
this?
Need
that
we
saw
in
the
world
back
when
we
started
open
collective
in
2015
to
fund
open
source
projects.
Open
source
projects
are
the
building
blocks
of
the
economy.
Today
there
is
no
company
out
there
that
is
not
using
open
source
projects,
but
funding
open
source
is
very,
very
difficult.
I
really
like
this
quote
that
I
read
recently.
A
So
we
want
more
open
source,
but
we
need
to
fund
open
source
Because
unless
we
fund
it
guess
what
the
only
ones
who
are
going
to
be
able
to
contribute
to
open
source
are
those
who
have
free
time
who
are
able
to
have
the
time
to
spend
in
open
source
who
are
privileged
enough
to
be
able
to
participate
in
open
source
without
being
compensated?
Okay,
so
why
is
it
so
freaking
hard
to
fund
the
open
source
ecosystem
because
of
the
attributes
of
Open
Source?
It's
a
non-excludable
public
public
good.
A
A
It's
not
free
as
enough
free
be
here,
someone
else
paid
for
it
and
the
person's
paying,
for
it
are
the
maintainers
that
are
spending
time
building
these
technologies
that
we
are
all
using
and
for
us
we
were
seeing
this
huge
Community
imbalance
at
the
core
of
the
open
source
ecosystem
and
we
wanted
to
step
there
and
make
a
difference.
So
posting
an
issue
has
zero
cost
right.
You
have
a
company
and
startup.
You
are
using
open
source,
something
is
not
working
for
you.
A
You
go
on
GitHub
on
a
freaking
run
and
start
asking
the
maintainer
so
that
dependency
to
fix
it
for
you
and
you
have
no
cost.
What
like
you,
spend
five
minutes
posting
a
toxic
issue
on
GitHub
fun.
Companies
are
hooked
on
open
source.
Everyone
is
using
open
source
because
it
doesn't
have
a
cost.
More
people
are
extracting
value
from
an
open
source
project
than
those
who
are
maintaining
it
right.
A
So
those
who
are
creating
open
source
technology
are
not
extracting
the
value
of
what
they're
creating
shared
code,
but
not
share
responsibility
and
it's
easy
to
start
a
project,
but
it's
very
difficult
to
live
in
right
once
you
start
a
project,
you
have
six
million
applications
using
your
dependency.
Well,
you
just
have
to
maintain
it.
What
are
you
gonna
do
right,
so
this
is
how
so
we
started
thinking.
Okay,
how
can
we
move
money
from
all
of
these
companies
to
the
hands
of
this
decentralized
communities
that
are
not
organized
around
anything
and
then
pain?
A
Point
that
we
see
is
that
in
the
open
source,
World,
formal
contracts
and
Partnerships
agreements
do
not
happen
like
they
do
in
the
business
world
right,
so
Google
wants
to
give
money
to
the
chromium,
Frameworks
ecosystem
and
they're
like
okay,
can
I
get
an
invoice
for
my
you
know.
Donation
and
the
developers
are
like.
We
are
just
a
group
of
people
doing
code
right.
We
want
to
get
paid,
but
we
have
no
formal
way
of
doing
it.
A
So
that's
where
open
Collective
stepped
in
I
really
like
this
quote
from
Swift
on
security,
and
if
you
follow
them
on
Twitter,
but
like
they're,
amazing
I'm,
convinced
that
many
developers
have
no
freaking
idea
how
business
actually
works
and
what
operations
departments
have
to
go
through
to
make
things
happen.
Enrolling
a
new
vendor
is
more
than
difficulties.
Demoralizing,
it
eats
your
soul,
make
it
easy
and
you're
a
God
I,
don't
know
if
we
are
Gods,
but
we're
definitely
making
this
easier
for
them.
So
this
is
what
we
created
open.
A
Collective
is
like
this
digital
interface
that
connects
decentralized
communities
to
to
existing
legal
entities
that
deal
with
the
clunky
and
old
operating
systems.
That
are
states
and
tax
departments,
and
you
know
all
that
boring
jazz
and
yes,
open
Collective
and
the
non-profits
go
through
the
vendors
process.
I
I
kid
you
not.
It
looks
like
this
or
worse.
It's
sap
right
anyway,
3343
open
source
projects
are
hosted
by
us.
A
We
have
15
000
communities,
Now
using
open
source,
the
open,
Collective
and
we've.
Given
you
know:
we've
transferred
65
million
into
the
hands
of
these
communities
and
we're
not
asking
for
anything
in
return
like
we're,
not
opinionated
about
how
communities
spend
their
money,
they
know
what
to
do.
We're
just
moving
money
from
the
center
to
the
fringes
and
our
approach
to
sustainability
has
to
do
with
Grassroots
cultures
of
governance
and
Tech.
I
think
this
is.
A
This
is
very
important
for
me
to
kind
of
communicate,
we've
learned
a
ton
from
how
Grassroots
organizers
are
operating
and
when
I've
seen
so
many
talks
today
and
the
last
couple
of
days
about
governance
and
doubts
and
dramas,
and
this
and
that
and
I'm
serious
like
this
is
like
happening.
It's
been
happening
for
decades
in
the
Grassroots
organizing
movements.
They
have
a
lot
of
really
good
Solutions
some
processes
and
ideas,
and
what
I
want
to
do
here
is
connect
these
two
worlds.
A
So
for
the
way
I
Define
sustainability
refers
to
the
resilience
and
thriving
of
projects,
communities
and
individuals
that
surround
them
right.
It's
everything,
it's
not
just
the
community
or
the
token
holders
that
are
maybe
addresses
right.
I'm
talking
about
humans
here
about
individuals
and
communities,
started,
compensating
themselves
right,
obviously,
they're
raising
money,
but
they're
also
spending
money.
So
in
the
last
12
months
we
pay
23
million
23
million
dollars
in
payments
to
hundreds,
thousands
of
community
members
around
the
world.
A
They're
getting
they're
submitting
invoices
they're
getting
1099s,
which
is
the
tax
form
in
the
United
States
they're,
getting
proof
of
income.
They
can
prove
to
their
landlord
that
they
have
a
pay
stub
right.
We
are
helping
them,
be
a
circle
in
a
world
that
is
made
for
triangles
Okay.
So
what
can
we
Bridge
with
the
Legacy
system
to
make
decentralized,
Community
sustainable?
A
So
in
my
mind,
web3
is
operating
kind
of
a
little
bit
isolated
from
the
Legacy
world,
because
a
lot
of
these
things
are
still
missing
and
I
think
that
it's
time
to
start
making
those
connections
taxactability
for
donors
in
over
30
countries
right.
That
is
something
that
we
can
provide
and
we
can
support
like
all
of
the
amazing
decentralized
philanthropy
Tech,
and
do
invoices
pay
stubs
insurance
benefits.
Employment
I
mean
I,
get
it
it's
like.
It's
not
sexy.
A
It's
not
high
tech,
but
you
know
what
the
people
that
we
are
supposed
to
be
helping
need
these
things
today
right
the
marginalized
of
the
previous
Paradigm
they're,
very
much
embedded
in
the
Legacy
system
right.
So
we
need
to
provide
the
tooling
the
the
support,
the
infrastructure
they
need
to
bring
them
over.
A
Okay.
What
is
the
trade-off,
because
there's
always
a
trade-off,
otherwise
I'll
be
lying
to
you
and
I'm.
Not
the
trade-off
is
that
there's
a
power
Dynamic
that
happens
between
the
collectives,
the
communities
and
the
platform
and
the
existing
legal
entities
that
give
them
like
a
bank
account
and
all
of
these
services.
This
is
true.
This
doesn't
happen
in
this
December
in
the
web.
A
Well
you
get
the
idea,
and
it's
happening
already
right
over
climate
is
a
really
good
example.
Over
climate
is
a
non-profit
on
the
open.
Collective
network
is
a
host,
but
it's
also
a
tower.
So
what
they
offer
is
a
legal
entity
for
those
and
Grassroots
initiatives
which
are
also
those
but
they're
just
off
chain
right
and
so
over
climate
is
used
to
breed
Grassroots
citizens
with
old
school
foundations,
and
it's
used
to
bridge
those
same
citizens
with
the
web
3
ecosystem.
It's
about
coordinating
those
bridges
between
the
two
paradigms.
A
Another
example
is
the
work
we
did
with
my
good
friend
Kevin
owaki
a
couple
of
years
ago,
or
maybe
it
was
last
year
who
knows
pandemic
I,
know
fando
assess
we
wanted
to
try
quadratic
funding
in
the
web
to
open
source
ecosystem.
So
we
did
one
example.
We
did
one
experiment
and
I
think
we're
gonna.
Keep
doing
this
because,
like
web3,
is
this
amazing
tool
for
creating
sandboxes
of
innovation,
iterating
on
governance
and
doing
some
radical
experimentation,
some
of
which
we
can
bring
to
the
web
2
world.
A
Another
example
is
I
was
talking
very
recently
with
a
radical
team,
and
so
maybe
some
of
the
radical
developers
or
the
developers
that
are
on
radical
when
they
need
to
get
funding
from
an
entity
in
the
Legacy
world.
We
can
create
a
fund
for
radical
in
open,
open
Collective,
and
so
we
can
offer
both
things.
You
want
to
get
paid
in
tokens
amazing,
but
you
need
employment.
You
need
pay
stubs,
you
need
invoices.
We
got
you
right
now
pay
attention
here.
A
Please
democratizing
is
not
about
just
opening
access
right,
it's
about
Open,
Access
and
shared
and
participatory
governance
right.
It's
about
both
things
right
and
so
open,
Collective
Inc.
The
platform
part
of
the
equation
is
a
company
in
Delaware
of
all
places.
Sorry,
we
have
investors
and
you
know
cap
table
Etc,
so,
but
what
what
we
want
to
do?
What
we're
creating
is
infrastructure
for
the
common.
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
to
transfer
ownership
of
open
Collective
to
the
commons,
so
we're
doing
an
e2c,
but
it's
not
a
token.
A
What
we
learned
through
all
of
these
years,
of
managing
helping
working
with
decentralized
Technologies,
is
that
the
challenges
that
we
have
they
did
not
change
with
technology
they're
the
same
right.
Participation
is
hard,
and
today,
I
saw
this
incredible
talk
earlier
today
by
Chandler.
I
didn't
catch
his
last
name,
but
he
was
talking
about
why
the
Dao
experience
suck
and
most
of
it
has
to
do
with
participation
wanes
over
time
right.
A
First,
you
have
this
burst
of
participation,
but
then
it's
very
difficult
to
keep
folks
engaged
and
then
it's
not
it's
not
that
it
only
happens.
It
happens
everywhere
right.
So
the
challenge
is
that
we
all
face.
Are
human
they're,
cultural
they're,
not
technological,
so
please
pay
attention
again.
This
is
the
last
time
Democratic
culture
is
Upstream
of
democratic
institutions.
Folks,
if
you
don't
figure
out
your
Democratic
culture
first,
you
are
not
going
to
have
good
governance
in
your
dial
right.
It's
just
not
gonna
happen,
and
so
for
open
collectives,
e2c,
for
example.
A
The
exit
part
is
the
last
step
in
the
process
right
you
first,
we
are
starting
this
learning
in
public
we're
engaging
with
the
community
we're
bringing
them
into
the
design
of
the
thing
of
the
structure
of
whatever
is
going
to
be
built,
but
we
are
co-creating
doing
it,
co-designing
it
with
them,
because
we
don't
want
to
be
like
a
referendum
right,
what
happens
with
a
referendum?
Politicians
can't
you
know,
figure
it
out:
they
throw
the
decision
over
to
the
people,
they
call
it
democracy
and
then
they
they
boil
it
down
to
a
narrow
binary.
A
Should
we
stay
or
should
we
go
right?
We
don't
want
to
get
to
the
you
know
to
the
exit
moment
and
then
tell
our
community
go
govern
the
thing
you
know:
that's
not
how
it
works.
We
need
to
you
know
to
learn
with
people
how
to
participate,
how
to
engage
okay.
We
need
to
something
we
need
to
build
this
kind
of
radical
narratives
together
about
what
we're
doing
what
we're
doing,
but
we
need
to
do
it
with
those
who
are
not
the
winners
of
the
current
system.
A
Sorry,
like
I,
know
I
sound
like
a
broken
record,
but
unless
we
do
that
like,
why
are
we
here?
You
know
to
do
disruptive,
innovation,
sure,
but
that's
not
going
to
bring
us
the
world
that
we
want
to
see.
So
do
not
sleep
on
culture.
If
culture
and
Humanity
get
away
from
you,
then
there's
no
consensus
mechanism
that
is
going
to
solve
a
save.
Your
community
specifically
do
not
forget
of
Some
Humans
those
who
can
more
easily
see
the
pitfalls
in
the
technology
that
we
are
building
right.
A
So
those
who
are
not
the
winners
in
the
current
time
are
the
ones
who
can
see
and
spot
the
biases
more
easily
right,
because
they
have
no
vested
interest
in
maintaining
the
current
narrative.
And
so
please
have
a
have.
A
conversation
have
an
honest
conversation
about
what
the
negative
externalities
are
of
what
you
are
building
today
and
how
you
are
going
to
absorb
internalize
those
externalities.
What
are
your
biases
right?
Who's?
Who
are
you
talking
to
that
is
able
to
poke
holes
on
your
narrative?
A
The
people
closest
to
a
pain
must
be
the
people
closest
to
a
solution.
The
last
thing,
I
want
to
see
is
a
bunch
of
broken
dials
or
dolls
with
no
communities
in
the
base
case.
You
know
in
the
best
case,
or
just
that
we
continue
building
a
bunch
of
profitable
opportunities
for
the
winners
of
the
current
system
that
have
all
the
interest
and
all
the
incentive
to
keep
the
political
economy
and
systems
in
place
that
made
them
winners.
In
the
first
place,
right,
okay,
I
think
I've
repeated
myself
enough.
So
what
are
we
doing
here?
A
What
do
we
do
at
open,
Collective
and
I
think
that
these
are
good
learning
experiences
for
everyone,
who's,
building,
dials
or
who's
building
projects
in
this
space?
What
are
we
doing
it
to
Foster
Democratic
culture?
Remember
Democratic.
Culture
is
Upstream
of
democratic
institutions
right
so
artists,
organizer
fellows.
We
have
a
fellowship
for
artists
who
are
helping
us
build
build
these
radical
narratives,
we're
learning
in
public.
We
have
the
solidarity,
School,
P2P,
learning
context,
setting
context
setting
is
key
for
everyone
to
be
able
to
act
right.
A
We
need
to
have
this
because
design
co-creation
whistleblower
policies,
do
you
have
with
supplier
policies
in
your
project?
Are
you
thinking
of
an
ethical
framework
in
your
project?
Do
you
have
conflict
resolution?
Are
you
interested
in
learning
conflict
resolution
anyway?
Please
think
about
these
things.
So
to
recap,
Democratic
culture
is
Upstream
of
democratic
institutions.
Sustainability
is
about
communities
and
individuals.
We
are
in
a
transition
Horizon,
so
it's
messy
it's
ugly,
but
we
need
to
be
informed
by
long-terms
perspective.
A
We
need
to
be
balanced
and
provide
opportunities
to
bridge
the
systems,
folks
we're
at
the
same
time.
You
know
caregivers
in
the
previous
Paradigm
and
midwives
of
the
new
one
right.
We
need
to
be
balanced,
we
can't
just
say
we're
building
here
we
don't
care
about
like
the
old
Paradigm,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
the
old
Paradigm
that
we
need
to
work
with
and
bring
people
over
right.
So
a
be
balanced.
Governance
is
hard.
It's
hard
for
everyone
build
more
sandboxes
I
mean
the
web.
A
C
B
Thank
you
so
much
Pierre,
I'm,
Joyce
I'm
up
to
you,
know
more
about
your
thoughts
on
using
incentives
when
building
the
Democratic
culture.
A
lot
of
style
communities
today
would
incentivize
people
for
engagement
and
participation.
Do
you
think
that
this
is
a
healthy
practice
and
or
if
this
actually
acting
against
the
build
up
of
that
culture
itself?
Thank.
A
You
I
think
it's
a
really
good
question:
I
think
it
can
work
in
certain
Frameworks,
but
the
kind
of
paid
to
participate
tends
to
have
a
very
short
life
right,
because
once
you
get
those
initial
tokens,
then
your
incentives
to
participate
are
are
low
and
so
that
they
weigh
in
time
right,
and
so
you
start
being
on
like
the
the
outside
of
a
project.
But
you
still
have
those
tokens
that
wait
and
you
can
really
you
know
you're,
not
really
contributing,
but
you
are
a
part
owner.