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https://archive.devcon.org/archive/watch/6/the-role-unicef-plays-in-encouraging-the-impact-trinity-real-world-use-cases-open-source-software-and-for-profit-business-models/
Facilitated and moderated by UNICEF, this panel discussion will bring together a group of blockchain start ups, part of the UNICEF Venture Fund portfolio, to touch on the importance of open source and digital public goods as part of a (profitable) business model. Through 3 rounds of questions, the start ups will share their experiences with UNICEF and opinions on the topics
Speaker(s): Evelyn Casanova, Shane O'Connor
Track: Opportunity & Global Impact
Keywords: Opensource,Real-world,Business model
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Devcon 6 was held in Bogotá, Colombia on Oct 11 - 14, 2022.
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A
A
Folks,
in
addition
to
the
mentors
that
you
guys
got
us
connected
to
was
huge
for
us
coming
from
a
small
country
and
getting
that
visibility
and
that
access
to
Resource
was
very,
very
important
for
us
and
for
the
twofold.
The
second
piece,
in
addition
to
the
technical
assistance,
was
also
the
mentorship
on.
A
B
B
You
know,
guidance,
I,
suppose,
but
I
hope
that
there's
there's
some
support
because
I
want
to
kind
of
pivot
over
to
my
next
question
for
emea,
which
is
really
about
some
of
the
challenges
that
you
face
and
like
so
you
get
technical
mentorship,
but
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
challenges
that
you
faced
as
you.
Try
to
you
know
bring
about
this
product
for
impact
in
the
real
world.
C
So
there
was
a
lot
of
challenges
because,
especially
when
you
connect
the
smart
contracts
to
the
real
world
is
a
totally
different
story.
If
you
are
building
I,
don't
know
decentralized
exchange
or
something
like
that.
It's
like
in
a
closed
loop
you're
still
in
ethereum,
you
are
just
communicating
with
other
smart
contracts,
even
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
landing
protocol
exchange
or
whatever.
C
So
one
side
is
the
technical
limitations
and
some
of
the
shortcomings
of
the
blockchain
technology
that
we
have
like
civil
attacks.
Like
many
things,
that
I
mean
the
problem
of
oracles.
These
things
exist
and
for
many
of
them
there
is
no
big
solution
so
far,
even
right
now.
So
that
was
one
side
of
the
challenges
that
we
had.
The
other
side
was
actually
like.
C
The
challenges
that
you
know
are
there,
when
you
want
to
introduce
a
high-tech
solution
to
a
community
that
didn't
know
about
it,
local
communities
in
rural
areas,
and
they
don't
need
to
know
about
it.
You
don't
you
shouldn't
force
them
to
know
about
like
blockchain,
and
it's
even
better,
not
to
mention
that
they're
using
blockchain,
because
it
makes
it
complicated
so
many
new
questions.
C
So
what
we
try
to
do
on
this
side
was
to
make
it
so
easy
for
them
to
use
the
project.
So
just
to
have
a
recap
of
the
project.
We
connect
donors
to
local
communities
who
do
conservation,
work,
protect
forests.
The
protocol
gives
a
proof
of
impact
impact
in
the
form
of
NFD
to
the
donor
and
on
the
other
side,
the
money
goes
to
the
protocol
and
is
managed
in
a
similar
way
to
an
escrow
system
whenever
they
provide
updates
from
the
forest
from
the
trees.
C
C
That's
how
Toyota
Portugal
works,
the
version
one
of
the
protocol.
Of
course
we
are
doing
a
lot
of
more
things.
So
to
do
this,
I
mean
to
get
the
rewards
for
conservation.
I
mean
we
try
to
make
it
similar
experience
to
their
web.
2
experience
like
like
having
a
WhatsApp
Instagram
application
on
their
mobile,
so
we
built
an
application
which
has
integrated
some
seed
phraseless
valid
non-custodial
wallets.
They
don't
have
seed
phrases.
C
They
don't
need
to
know
about
the
complex
nature
of
valids
in
blockchain,
so
they
use
their
email,
but
it's
not
custodial.
We
use
web3odes
for
that.
At
the
same
time,
we
sponsor
all
their
transactions
on
the
supply
side
for
local
communities.
We
use
stable
coins
instead
of
volatile
assets
like
ethereum
Bitcoin,
so
they
get
their
conservation
rewards
in
Dai
and
many
many
other
works
like
I.
C
C
Actually,
the
typical
opportunities
in
climate
Finance,
so
it's
about
social
impact
as
well.
That's
why
we
actually
have
that
kind
of
social
impact
project
as
well,
and
the
impact
mentorships
have
helped
us
quantify
measure
those
impacts.
So
we
learn
what
we're
doing
like
in
a
better
way
and,
of
course,
the
open
source
like
this
is
one
of
the
best
things
that
you
can
get
out
of
this
investment
because
you
think
you're
open
source,
but
you
are
not
like
a
open
source
friendly
project,
so
lots
of
documentation
contribution
guidelines.
C
B
That
kind
of
like
something
that
benefits
people
all
around
the
world.
Even
if
it's
done
in
local
communities,
makes
me
think
of
equity,
which
is
one
of
you
know.
The
key
lenses
that
UNICEF
UNICEF
is
an
equity-based
organization.
Everything
we
think
about.
We
use
equity
as
a
kind
of
a
lens
for
that
and
and
one
of
the
ways
that
we
think
about
digital
products
and
how
we
make
them.
Equitable
is
digital
public
goods,
which
is
my
next
next
question
for
Just
For,
You
Jose.
B
But
Jose,
would
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
next
capits
and
your
journey
to
becoming
a
certified
DPG?
How
did
UNICEF
support
you
in
that
process?
I
mean
I
know
it's
somewhat
through
the
mentorship,
but
what
kind
of
benefit
then
like
after
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
process?
What
benefit
do
you
see
and
I
know?
Armia
mentioned
a
little
bit,
some
of
the
benefits
of
dpgs.
What
benefits
do
you
see
from
your
perspective
and
even
talk
a
little
bit
about?
D
Okay,
that's
a
whole
question
yeah,
so
I
will
try
to
to
wrap
up
everything
or
I
will
try
not
to
forget
part
of
it,
but
the
starting
point
for
was
thinking
about
building
a
digital
public
good
that
could
achieve
the
sustainable
goals
from
new
and
so
from
starting
point.
I.
Think
that
having
onboard
all
of
the
support
of
Unicef
Innovation
fund
had
to
do
first
of
all
about
thinking
on
the
impact
thinking
about
the
resources
thinking
about
leaving
something
that
could
be
scalable
that
could
be
secure.
D
That
could
be
useful
for
some
other
products
just
to
use.
So
first
of
all,
I
would
say
that
becoming
an
open
source
project
has
to
do
with
developing
a
layer
in
which
other
people
could
build.
So
from
that
starting
point,
UNICEF
was
amazing
and
having
the
impact
in
in
the
main
objectives
of
building
a
digital
product
has
to
do
with.
First
of
all,
measuring
it.
D
Theory
of
change
was
one
of
the
mentorships
and
it's
amazing
how
you
could
measure
your
impact
on
a
region
and
actually
that's
that's
a
profitable
digital,
probably
good,
a
company
that
could
create
lasting
and
social
economic
impact
and
coming
from
Latin
America.
That's
a
huge
depth
of
the
region
so
for
us,
was
easy
to
to
like
have
that
purpose,
but
still
difficult
or
challenging
to
build
it
in
a
way
that
could
be
useful
for
everybody.
D
So
at
last,
but
not
least,
I
think
that
every
project
should
be
sustainable
and
should
be
profitable
in
terms
of
creating
value
and
creating
value
has
much
to
do
not
only
with
revenue
or
incomes,
but
having
these
things
in
mind,
if
you
could
align
your
project
so
as
to
build
it
with
values
and
having
in
front
people
that
have
needs
and
if
you
could
fulfill
those
needs
through
through
technological
Solution,
that's
great
and
just
to
mention
some
objectives
of
digital,
probably
good.
We
have
no
poverty,
gender
equality,
quality,
education,
no
poverty.
D
An
invitation
that
should
be
done
on
every
entrepreneur
that
it's
building
their
Venture
it's
to
to
continue
tackling
those
objectives.
It's
a
huge
rock
that
we
need
to
defeat.
It's
not
one
or
two
companies
who
will
make
it
come
true,
it's
and
that
this
has
to
do
with
web3,
too
web3
with
web3.
It's
a
matter
of
community,
and
this
is
so
loud
loud
voice
in
and
in
an
ecosystem
as
web3.
D
That,
first
of
all,
makes
me
proud
to
be
part
of.
It
makes
me
wanna
collaborate
with
other
projects
that
are
tackling
the
same
problems
and
joining
forces,
I'm
sure
about
that
it
will
be
more
fulfillable
than
going
just
by
my
own,
so
just
in
a
rough
sense,
I
think
that
that's
what
left
us
to
become
a
digital,
probably
good.
B
But
yeah.
That's
that's!
That's
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
we'll.
Maybe
try
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
so
we've
talked
about
the
DPG
process.
The
process
of
you
know
joining
the
Venture
fund.
Your
your
journey
with
the
Venture
fund
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
real
world.
Now
it's
it
was
part
of
the
the
title
so
taking
you've
gone
through,
you've
joined
the
Venture
fund.
You've
accepted
you've
gone
through
mentored.
Now.
B
A
So
we
are
currently
in
the
midst
of
piloting
our
solution.
Rahat
with
the
country
office,
the
UNICEF
country
office
in
Nepal,
we
are
working
on
with
1500
households
for
an
unconditional
cash
transfer
of
about
I,
think
150
000
through
the
country
office
and
the
Innovation
fund,
and
with
that
pilot
we
are
really
looking
at
building
or
bringing
in
or
bringing
in
some
learning
insights
about
the
impact
of
how
a
blockchain-powered
solution
can
bring
in
efficiencies
in
the
cash
transfer
project.
A
So
how,
for
example,
real-time
monitoring
could
help
the
country
office
understand
or
understand
how
the
cache
is
being
transferred,
understand
the
flow
of
funds
and
get
verifiable
transactions.
So
so
we're
really
looking
at
working,
not
just
with
the
country
office
like
but
along
site
with
the
local
authorities
and
the
government
bodies
there.
A
The
most
efficiently,
like
cost
effectively
and
in
a
very
I
think
like
an
auditable
way,
because,
with
all
of
the
financial
reconciliation
that
happens
in
in
these
aspects,
that's
a
huge
time
and
resource
sucks.
So
we're
looking
at
how
the
time
and
resources
can
be
saved
through
this
particular
pilot
and
where
we're
trying
to
see
if
we
can
take
all
of
the
learnings
from
this
particular
pilot
and
replicate
it
hopefully
replicate
it
in
other
country
offices
and
globally.
B
Great
thank
you
and
I'm
actually
really
excited.
As
you
know,
I'm
very
excited
about
this
pilot.
I
wonder:
can
you
have
a
little
reflection
on
so
you
mentioned,
you
know
asides
from
your
own
company.
You
mentioned
two
other
entities.
You
mentioned
three.
Actually
you
mentioned
units
have
country
office.
You
mentioned
the
government
and
of
course
the
beneficiaries.
Can
you
maybe
just
speak
a
little
bit
about
how
The
Innovation
fund
facilitated
with
the
UNICEF
country
office
the
engagement
with
with
the
government,
because
that's
that
can
be
difficult
if
you're?
A
A
B
B
So,
thank
you
very
much
and
thanks
for
the
great
work
that
you're
doing,
we
have
a
few
minutes
left
what
I'd
really
like
to
do
now,
actually
or
me.
If
I
can
ask
you
to
be
the
first
one.
If
you
could
take
a
couple
of
minutes
to
think
about
what
kind
of
advice
you
would
give
to
someone
out
here,
who's,
maybe
in
a
startup
situation,
and
wants
to
become
working
in
the
impact
area
or
even
if
you
were
talking
to
yourself.
You
know
18
months
in
the
past
or
two
years
in
the
past.
C
So
I
would
say
like
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
I
mean
impact
projects
in
our
impact.
Founders
like
us
need
to
consider
or
the
challenges
that
they
face
is
the
funding.
So
you
are
not
a
typical
startup
that
probably
can
make
money
from
the
early
days
or
even
if
you
can
make
money
or
attractions,
probably
are
not
very
similar
to
the
some
of
the
startups
that
VCS
are
very
interested
to
like
invest
in
so
you
have
this
problem.
C
I
mean
now
it's
easier
because
refi
has
become
a
trend
in
crypto
and
VCS
are
understanding
it
and
but
unfortunately
you
are
now
in
a
beer
pocket.
So
you
will
have
hard
time
to
raise
some
money
compared
to
I,
don't
know
one
year
two
year
ago,
so
you
have
a
number
of
options
based
on
our
experience
and
the
ex
I
mean
the
best
practices
that
we
had
in
Treasure.
So
UNICEF
is,
of
course,
one
of
the
places
that
you
can
go.
C
If
you
have
an
crazy
impact
idea-
and
you
think
probably
I
mean
a
crazy
impact
idea,
but
not
very
unrealistic,
you
think
it
works
like,
and
you
have
some
small
Pilots,
because
if
you're
in
the
process
of
application,
UNICEF
doesn't
accept
only
the
ideas
like
there
should
be
some
metrics,
some
tractions.
That
proves
that
this
idea,
even
if
now
it
doesn't
I
mean-
and
it's
not
a
charity-
I
mean
you
need
to
make
a
sustainable
project.
So
all
these
together
makes
it
challenging
to
actually
get
funding.
So
UNICEF
is
one
place.
C
The
other
place
that
you
have
is
kidscoin,
which
you
can
consider
we
raised
I,
would
say
almost
equal
to
the
I
mean
similar
to
the
amount
that
we
raised
from
UNICEF
from
git
coin,
I,
think
85
or
90
000
in
different
rounds
in
climate
rounds,
and
there
are
also,
of
course
the
I
mean
the
product.
Your
product
should
make
money
and
if
I
mean
we
want
to
make
it
sustainable,
that's
really
important.
C
B
D
D
A
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
get
done.
It
just
took
Jose's
point
about
they
make
it
harder
in
the
beginning,
because
when
we
applied-
and
we
had
done,
we
had
to
do
this
full-fledged
work
plan
and
as
soon
as
I
submitted
I
just
looked
back
at
my
team
and
I
was
like
I'm,
not
I,
don't
know
if
we're
getting
this
investment
but
I
think
we're
set.
A
We
have
a
whole
road
map
and
a
plan
and
a
purpose
and
a
focus
all
set
so
I
think
that
is
key
to
have
that
process
in
tight
and
I.
Think
I
completely
agree
with
Jose
about
that
can
really
set
the
stage
and
how
the
team
work
and
the
team
is
set
to
do
that
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
definitely
definitely
very,
very
helpful.
I
think
the
one
last
thing
that
I
would
add
is
I
felt
like
for
us.
A
B
Perfect,
thank
you
very
much
guys.
Can
I
ask
you
for
a
round
of
applause
for
our
three
great
companies
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
great
work.
Now.
How
can
you
guys?
How
can
you
join
us
all
the
all
the
impact
startups
are
out
there.
I
hope
you've
been
inspired
by
hearing
the
great
work
from
our
three
panelists
here.
B
We're
also
looking
for
people
to
partner
with
us,
and
you
could
also,
if
you
have
spare
time
spare
expertise,
you
could
join
the
the
mentoring
process
that
we
have
for
the
next
round
of
venture
fund
companies
and
finally,
the
last
15
seconds.
I'll
say:
if
you
have
a
little
bit
of
spare
eth
or
some
spare
money,
you
can
certainly
contribute
to
our
phone
as
well,
and
you
can
be
guaranteed
that
it
will
go
towards
impactful
projects
like
what
we
have
up
here
on
stage.