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From YouTube: Social Composability Design: How DAOs Can Leverage It for the Future of Work by Dominic Emanuel Horn
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Effective communication is a strategic advantage that DAOs are failing to leverage due to a fragmented and inefficiently designed tool landscape. Let's explore how social web3 primitives may unlock collaborative network effects. Imagine knowing if you can trust someone at a glance, without knowing anything else about them. We'll tie social theory of Bourdieu together with User Experience Design into a neat little package and see how it can herald a new era in working together.
Speaker(s): Dominic Emanuel Horn
Skill level: Intermediate
Track: UX & Design
Keywords: social,DAO,app
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A
A
Okay,
so
I
know
it's
5
30
and
it's
been
a
long
day
and
I
know
everybody's
thinking
about
dinner.
But
let's
talk
about
social
composability,
so
I
want
to
talk
specifically
about
how
Dows
can
leverage
it
for
the
future
of
work.
Okay,
so
I
want
to
start
with.
Actually
who
am
I
right
so
actually
I
think
that
nobody
here
knows
me
so
have
we
met
you
and
I?
Would
you
hire
me
for
300K
a
year,
probably
not
right?
That
would
be
insane
right.
Not
yet
exactly
have
we
met.
A
Probably
not,
okay,
so
exactly
so,
who
am
I,
which
begs
the
question?
If
you
don't
know
who
I
am?
Why
should
you
care
about
what
I
have
to
say
right,
you
came
here,
you
don't
know
me
right
so
what's
happening
is
actually
that
invisible
identifiers
are
at
play
here
that
we
subconsciously
respect
right.
The
fact
that
I'm
up
here
at
Defcon,
giving
a
talk
means
that
you
to
some
extent
respect
the
approval
process
of
Defcon.
A
Somebody
has
vetted
me
and
said
this
person
has
expertise
worth
sharing
right,
but
actually
I
would
probably
think
that
nobody
here
knows
what
the
Defcon
approval
process
looks
like
so
you're
trusting
something
that
you
actually
have:
no
idea
how
it
works,
and
this
is
even
more
difficult
online
right.
The
internet
is
absolutely
crazy
platforms.
Don't
talk
and
reputation
that
you
build
on
one
platform
is
completely
irrelevant
on
another.
If
you've
got
three
million
followers
on
Twitter
that
only
matters
on
Twitter,
technically
right.
A
No,
of
course
not
because
it's
a
lie:
I'm,
not
right,
but
on
LinkedIn
anybody
can
say
anything
right.
I
can
just
go
on
LinkedIn
and
say
yeah
I
designed
the
internet
as
we
know
it
right.
There
is
very
little
checks
and
balances
of
that
system.
Right
when
you
hire
somebody
via
LinkedIn,
you
need
to
go
through
their
referrals.
You
need
to
check
their
CV.
You
need
to
invite
them
to
an
interview,
there's
an
arduous
process
for
verifying
that
somebody
has
the
skills
that
they
say
they
have,
which
brings
me
to
social
composability
right.
A
This
is
something
unlocked,
hopefully
by
web3.
That
I
think
is
going
to
change
a
lot
of
things
going
forward.
So
composability
is
for
anybody
who
doesn't
know
it's
basically
Lego
right,
web3
loves
it
it's.
How
can
I
make
a
basic
building
block
that
anybody
else
can
start
reusing
and
social
composability?
Specifically
it's
about
social
identifiers
as
Lego,
so
information
that
says
something
about
you.
That
represents
you
as
an
individual
and
about
the
skills
that
you
have.
A
But
what
do
we
actually
want
to
know
about
each
other?
What
information
makes
us
who
we
are
in
the
age
of
Taos?
We
actually
need
to
change
the
kind
of
information
that
we
need
to
know
about
each
other,
because
the
type
of
work
has
changed,
so
we
kind
of
need
to
as
Gamers
would
say,
min
max
it
right.
We
need
to
maximize
the
useful
information
about
each
other,
while
minimizing
information
that
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
know
about
other
people.
A
A
If
more,
could
talk
than
just
money,
so
at
Common,
Grounds
I'll
get
to
that
in
a
moment
we're
building
based
on
boardier's
theory
of
capital,
and
he
was
a
French
sociologist
that
basically
came
up
with
a
theory
of
capital.
There
are
lots
of
theories
of
capital,
but
his
is
the
one
that
we
are
using
to
build
because
it
was
concrete
enough
for
us
to
build
good
software
with
it.
A
So
what
year
says
that
you
have
multiple
types
of
capital
at
your
disposal,
one
is
economic
capital
which
is
basically
cash
right.
Your
assets,
the
the
nfts
that
you
have,
the
properties
you
have
and
all
of
this
money,
your
Colombian
pesos.
You
also
have
social
capital,
though,
and
social
capital
is
your
connections.
It's
the
people,
you
know
it's
your
parents,
it's
who,
what
clubs
you're
part
of
the
influence
that
you
can
exert
via
your
social
capital
and
then
there's
also
cultural
capital
and
cultural
capital?
Is
your
knowledge?
It's
your
education.
It's
your
mannerisms!
A
It's
maybe
even
having
a
British
accent
right.
It
unlocks
certain
doors
because
of
having
access
to
this
kind
of
cultural
capital
and
finally,
there's
symbolic
capital
and
symbolic
Capital.
It's
Prestige.
If
you
have
two
rich
people,
but
one
person
spends
it
all
on
culture
and
being
a
patron
of
the
Arts
and
another
rich
person
spends
it
all
on
gambling
and
cocaine.
They
have
different
symbolic
Capital.
A
They
are
perceived
differently
by
Society
if
I
write
books
to
extend
my
my
respect
in
the
world,
I'm
growing,
my
Prestige
and
therefore
my
symbolic
capital,
and
all
of
these
things
are
deeply
in
interconnected.
So
you
can
trade
these
things
for
each
other,
so,
for
example,
I
could
spend
economic
capital
to
become
part
of
the
board
API
Club
to
grow.
A
My
social
connections
I
can
throw
those
connections,
earn
knowledge
or
Insider
alpha
or
whatever
the
hell,
using
that
Alpha
I
can
maybe
write
blog
posts
about
it
and
get
really
trending
on
Twitter
and
grow
my
symbolic
capital
and
using
all
of
these
things
I
can
start
making
money
again.
So
all
of
these
things
are
interconnected
and
they
say
a
lot
about
your
standing
in
the
world
and
the
influence
that
you
can
exert
over
it.
So,
let's
look
a
little
bit
about
identifies
in
web
3.
A
That
say
something
about
you
so,
for
example,
in
economic
capital,
somebody
has
a
hundred
Doge,
that's
okay,
that
this
person
has
a
wallet
understands
a
little
bit
about
cryptocurrencies
cool.
They
bought
some
Doge
good
for
them.
This
person
whoa
it's
still
a
hundred,
but
who
is
this
person
right
like
this?
This
is
probably
an
important
person,
or
at
least
a
very
rich
person
right.
So,
but
you
need
to
know
the
difference
between
these
two
things.
The
average
person
has
no
idea
what
this
means
and,
for
example,
Social
Capital.
A
72,
suddenly,
you're
a
big
person
you
have
influence
over
the
space
I
want
to
get
to
know
this
person
with
72k
followers
I
want
to
know
what
they
have
to
say:
I,
don't
want
to
it's
biased
but
I
want
it
I,
don't
know
why
and
for
example,
cultural
capital,
so
the
knowledge
that
we
have,
for
example,
if
you
participate
in
governance
good
for
you,
you've
understood
what
governance
is.
You've
read
a
proposal
and
you
put
a
vote
on
it
cool.
You
already
know
more
than
99
of
the
entire
world.
A
However,
if
you
pass
the
governance
vote,
so
if
you
wrote
it,
if
you
defended
it
to
your
audience
and
got
it
approved
in
your
Dell
clearly,
you
know
a
lot
about
the
subject
matter
that
you
just
proposed.
You
have
a
different
cultural
capital
at
your
disposal
and
another
example
is,
for
example,
the
Devcon
at
ND.
So
this
is
you
the
audience
right.
You
have
certain
knowledge,
you've
understood
what
ethereum
is
you
understood
how
to
come
here
and
that
you
want
to
learn
more,
but
it's
not
the
same
as
Defcon
speaker
me.
A
In
this
sense,
who's
been
invited
here
to
be
an
expert
on
the
subject
matter.
I
have,
in
theory
more
knowledge
about
something.
That's
why
I'm
standing
up
here
and
finally,
symbolic
Capital
as
an
example
to
be
a
member
of
a
Dao
is
a
fantastic,
interesting
thing.
It
means
that
you've
understood
what
a
Dao
is
you're
contributing
in
some
certain
way.
It
doesn't
necessarily
give
you
a
lot
of
prestige.
However,
if
you
are
a
founder
of
Adele,
maybe
you
have
more
connections
through
that
people
start
talking
about
this
person
founded
a
Dao.
A
Oh,
my
God,
who,
who
is
this
person
so
they
have
access
to
different
kind
of
symbolic
capital
and
this
again
influences
all
of
the
other
types
of
capital.
So
you
get
the
idea.
Web3
says
a
lot
about
you,
but
only
if
you
understand
it
and
actually
understanding
it
itself
is
cultural
capital.
It
gives
you
an
advantage
to
know
these
things
and
most
people
don't
understand
it.
So,
let's
talk
about
designing
a
system
of
identifiers,
and
this
is
I
think
where
it
gets
a
bit
more
interesting.
A
So
we
think
a
common
ground
that
a
major
source
of
identifiers
should
be
when
humans
interact.
Most
of
society
is
built
through
humans,
interacting
and
I
think
it
says
a
lot
so,
for
example,
if
we
build
a
chat
app
where
one
person
asks
for
help
and
another
person
provides
that
help.
This
is
very
qualitative
as
an
act
and
it's
difficult
to
quantify
it's
difficult
to
say
this
person
has
provided
a
helpful
service,
but
what,
if
in
web
3,
we
could
say?
A
Actually
if
this
other
person
says
yeah
thanks
for
for
helping
me,
this
person
could
grow
helpfulness
in
a
kind
of
gamified
way.
You
build
this
identifier
that
in
a
way
you
are
helpful
in
the
space,
and
this
is
just
the
first
example.
Another
example
is
you
become
a
member
of
a
Dao
so
if
I
join
a
Dao
as
a
designer
and
I
contribute
for
a
month
slowly,
my
little
Dow
contributor
level
can
go
up
and
eventually,
of
course,
once
I'm
level,
two
level
three
people
will
be
like
whoa.
A
This
person
knows
a
lot
about
contributing
to
Dallas
and
another
example.
Is
governance
votes
if
I
vote
Yes
on
governance
proposals,
I
can
grow
my
governance
expertise
and
in
a
few
years
people
will
be
like
wow.
This
person
has
participated,
a
lot
in
governance
and
what
this
does
is.
Basically,
you
start
mapping
out
a
skill
tree
of
The
Human
Condition.
A
You
basically
collect
and
map
out
your
accomplishments
and
in
a
certain
way,
web
2
companies
already
do
this,
except
it's
a
quarterly
review.
You
sit
down
with
your
supervisor
and
they
say
what
you're
good
at
where
you're
performing
where
you're
underperforming.
But
it's
a
very
subjective
thing.
It
depends
on
your
boss,
it
depends
on
your
supervisor
and
ultimately,
if
I
quit
a
job
and
go
to
another
company,
I
have
to
start
again
from
scratch.
I
have
to
convince
them
that
what
I
did
at
the
last
company
was
really
good.
Totally.
A
Believe
me
guys,
you
know,
regardless
of
of
what
I'm
actually
being
reviewed
as
so
it's
a
very
subjective
thing
and
I
think
once
we
start
mapping
out
the
Human
Condition
in
this
way,
you
can
start
becoming
more
objective,
but
we'll
get
to
the
cons
in
a
moment.
So
this
becomes
a
massive
skill
tree
summarizing
your
entire
existence
into
badges
right.
This
is
amazing.
Loads
of
projects
are
building
this
right.
Now
it's
going
to
be
really
cool,
so
these
social
identifiers
become
verified
credentials
to
be
used
anywhere.
A
This
is
the
composable
aspect,
something
I
earn
on
one
platform:
I
can
use
anywhere
across
web
3..
That's
where
it
gets
interesting
and
pay
attention
to
VCS,
because
you're
about
to
see
them
everywhere
in
web3.
Actually,
the
w3c
in
March
this
year
recommended
starting
to
use
verified
credentials.
So
it's
officially
endorsed
and
I.
Think
loads
of
projects
are
going
to
start
using
it.
A
So
I
think
my
work
here
is
done
right.
Easy
I've
mapped
The,
Human
Condition.
That
was
super
easy
and
nothing
bad
can
come
of
it.
Probably.
But
it's
not
that
simple
right,
because
designers
have
a
massive
responsibility
when
actually
trying
to
map
social,
behaviors
and
social
inequality
to
basically
a
glorified
skill
tree.
So
all
human
beings
are
fundamentally
Born,
Free
and
equal
and
dignity
and
rights.
A
So
this
is
from
the
universal
Declaration
of
Human
Rights,
and
basically
that
means
that
these
kinds
of
systems
have
to
be
designed
really
really
thoughtfully,
because
they
can
have
ramifications
socially,
that
maybe
you
don't
entirely
are
able
to
put
to
anticipate
right.
So
what's
to
stop
my
entire
reputation,
that's
on
chain
ruining
my
life
in
three
years
through
some
reason
it
conducts
me
and
suddenly
people
find
me
at
my
home
and
that's
it
because
of
some
reputation
thing
I
did
three
years
ago,
so
we
need
to
start
actually
talking
about
preventing
reputation
trails.
A
So
we
need
to
start
with
something
called
self
sovereignty,
which
is
basically
I
get
to
be
the
master
of
what
I
share
and
what
I
don't
share.
So
when
I
start
building
these
skill,
trees
I
need
to
be
able
to
say
who
can
see
what
so
you
need
to
have
control
over
these
systems.
What
you
also
need
to
be
able
to
do
is
to
revoke
certain
things
so
binance.
A
Actually
you
know
they
do
a
kyc,
and
this
year
they
started
issuing
a
token
for
this
kyc
that
you
can
claim
and
then
prove
on
other
platforms
that
you've
done
the
binance
kyc.
But
this
is
revocable,
so
you
can
actually
go
back
to
binance
and
this
token
that
you
have
in
your
wallet,
you
can
revoke
and
say
actually
I
don't
want
to
have
it
there
anymore
right.
So
in
case
binance
is
I,
don't
know,
suddenly
turns
out
to
be
super
evil
or
whatever,
and
you
don't
want
to
be
associated
with
it.
A
You
can
revoke
it
and
then
there's
also
consent,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
airdropped,
soul-bound
stuff.
That's
on
my
wallet
forever.
Please
ask
me:
first
right:
I
need
to
be
able
to
claim
these
things.
There
needs
to
be
a
mechanism
of
consent,
especially
you
know
when
you
start
talking
about
things
that
might
be
on
chain
forever
and
finally
Rehabilitation,
just
like
in
real
Society.
A
Another
thing
that
we
have
to
talk
about
is
civil
resistance,
so
civil
resistance
is
basically
the
act
of
being
resistant
to
civil
attacks,
which
is
when
people
use
pseudonyms
to
subvert
a
system
and
if
you've
ever
asked
your
cousin
to
leave
you
a
five-star
review
on
your
Google
Business
you've
in
some
way
committed
an
act
of
civil
attack
or,
if
I,
post,
something
on
Twitter
and
then
I
quickly,
change
account
and
upvote.
My
own
thing
and
I
support
myself.
Then
you
are
committing
a
civil
attack.
So
what
do
we
do
about
that
right?
A
We
can
do
things
like
reverse
Turing
tests,
which
is
humans
having
to
prove
that
they
are
humans.
But
we
are
some
kind
of
test.
You
know
the
picking
little
Street,
lamps
or
whatever,
but
then
there's
also
things
like
dids,
so
there's
loads
of
projects
starting
up
now
talking
about
decentralized
identities.
A
This
is
basically
conducting
a
kyc
and
it's
often
like
holding
up
a
passport
on
a
camera,
but
there's
also
privacy,
preserving
dids,
which
is
basically
it
can
scan
your
face
and
say
you
are
a
unique
human
being,
but
we
don't
want
to
know
your
name
or
Identity
or
anything
else.
So
this
is
also
really
interesting
and
finally
passports.
So
you've
probably
heard
of
the
git
coin
passport
and
I
think
disco
XYZ
is
also
considered
that
what
they
do
is
they
basically
put
verified
credentials
and
dids
into
one
cool
little
identity.
A
So
when
you
connect
to
a
platform,
you
can
say,
I
just
want
to
share
this
part
of
my
passport
to
get
access
to
the
platform,
and
it
basically
confirms
that
I'm,
a
human
being
and
I
have
the
credentials
that
I
need
to
access.
I
think
these
are
going
to
become
very,
very
common,
but
verify
credentials
are
only
as
good
as
a
system
that
issues
them.
So
it
doesn't
matter
if
I
make
a
decentralized
application
and
issue
myself,
a
badge
that
says
best
designer
in
the
world
like
it's
irrelevant,
because
it
has
no
value.
A
It
has
no
reputation
the
system
that
issued
it.
So
you
actually
need
to
think
about
who
is
issuing
these
things?
You
need
to
actually
have
a
reputable
issuer
issuing
reputable
credentials
so
that
the
user
can
themselves
become
reputable.
So
it's
really
reputation
all
the
way
down
so
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
projects
in
the
next
few
years,
issuing
all
of
these
Badges
and
all
of
these
verified
credentials,
but
you
always
have
to
think
in
the
back
of
your
mind.
Who
are
they
to
be
issuing
these
things?
A
Do
they
have
robust
mechanisms
in
place
and
do
they
have
a
nuanced
view
of
the
world
so
that
these
issues
are
these
credentials
actually
are
fair
and
good
for
society?
And
not
just
you
know
the
next
thing.
So
how
does
all
of
this
change
anything
at
Common
Ground?
We
are
building,
basically
something
which
is
decentralized
collaboration
coupled
with
verifiable
credentials.
So
we
want
to
be
the
intersection
of
this
we're
building
like
this
communication
platform
and
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
interactions
are
where
things
happen.
A
So
what
happens
when
you
start
using
these
verifiable
credentials
and
start
planning
online
spaces
with
them?
This
is
where
I
think
it
gets
very
interesting
because
probably
most
of
you
use
Discord.
So
Discord
is
a
cognitive
overload
catastrophe.
You
join
three
communities
and
suddenly
you're
spammed
with
7
000
notifications
and
then
you're
like
I'm,
going
to
mute
all
of
them,
and
that's
it
right.
It's
it's
kind
of
pointless.
So
what
happens
if
you
actually
start
building
areas
which
are
more
Dynamic
using
verifiable
credentials?
A
So,
if
I
build
up
my
reputation
because
I
provide
my
services
as
a
designer
and
then
one
day,
I'm
designer
level,
three
I
automatically
unlock
access
to
the
right
space
and
everything
else
that
I
don't
have
access
to
is
fuzzy
and
in
the
background
it
doesn't
cognitively
overload
me
I
think
this
is
the
way
that
the
internet
is
going
to
be
shaped
in
the
future,
which
I
think
will
make
everything
a
little
bit
more.
Focusing
what
it
also
allows
is
more
trustworthy
interactions.
A
So
with
this
did
credential,
for
example,
we
can
say
only
verified
humans
can
talk
in
this
chat.
For
example,
Twitter
could
tomorrow,
Implement
dids
and
the
bot
problem
would
to
99
be
solved.
It's
just
they're,
not
web
3.
They
don't
care
right,
they're
not
going
to
do
it,
but
they
could.
The
technology
exists
and
there
are
applications
right
now
saying
only
verified
humans
can
use
the
app.
So
it
basically
means
you're
locked
out
of
participation
until
you
verify
your
humanity
and
you
can
do
this
in
a
privacy
preserving
way.
A
What
it
also
allows
is
for
more
concrete
information.
Maybe
you
shouldn't
have
access
and
a
view
of
everything,
and
here
is
an
example
of,
for
example,
a
governance
vote
that
is
restricted.
So,
for
example,
if
somebody
asks
should
Defcon
give
more
swag,
maybe
only
people
who
have
attended
Defcon
and
have
the
verifiable
credential
that
they
did
attend
can
vote
in
this
thing,
because
they
are
the
only
ones
who
know
how
much
swag
was
given.
A
In
fact,
you
could
imagine
that
if
common
ground,
which
is
my
Dao,
would
choose
to
hire
a
senior
designer,
for
example,
I
could
set
the
verifiable
credentials
that
we
required
the
applicant
to
have
I
could
say
it
needs
to
be
a
designer
level.
Three.
It
needs
to
have
a
tested
Badge
of
being
a
good
communicator,
and
this
person
needs
to
have
verified
their
Humanity.
A
For
example,
on
the
flip
side,
if
I
Dominic
a
designer
looking
for
work,
it
would
be
as
easy
as
enabling
a
toggle
that
says
I'm
available
for
jobs
and
then
another
toggle
Auto
submit
my
verifiable
credentials
to
matching
dials
anonymously.
You
can
imagine
how
suddenly
the
recruitment
industry
might
get
a
little
bit
worried
if
this
would
be
the
simple.
This
is
how
simple
the
process
could
be.
You
wouldn't
need
in
like
in
LinkedIn
yeah,
the
interviews
and
the
CV
and
the
whatever
these
credentials.
A
If
the
system
issuing
them
is
is
trustworthy
and
reputable,
then
you
can
just
set
the
verify
verifiable
credential
that
you
need,
and
suddenly
people
are
matched
right.
This
thing
can
happen
instantly
and
imagine
multiplied
by
all
dowels
and
the
entire
Workforce.
Suddenly
everybody
gets
matched
in
a
system
that
is
really
robust.
A
Oh
there
we
go
summary,
okay,
so
just
getting
to
the
end.
Now,
your
online
Persona
is
about
to
get
much
richer
and
stickier
with
verifiable
credentials.
This
is
going
to
happen
you're
already
using
them.
Your
your
driver's
license
is
a
credential.
Your
passport
is
a
credential.
Your
University
degree
is
a
credential.
This
is
now
going
to
be
translated
into
web
3
and
internalized
on
the
blockchain.
So
it's
coming,
whether
you
agree
with
it
or
not.
A
It
is
going
to
come
and
I
think
as
we
as
designers
should
be
very
mindful
of
Designing
these
systems
in
a
way
that
makes
Society
better
and
not
worse
right.
You
also
need
the
quality
and
social
responsibility
behind
credentials
that
they
really
really
matter
right.
So
it
really
is
all
about
reputable
systems
issuing
reputable
credentials
that
are
well
researched,
so
it
actually
causes
public
good
and
not
more
trouble
and
finally,
we're
looking
at
fundamental
changes
in
Collective
agency.
A
So
if
we
pull
this
off
in
a
meaningful
way-
and
this
is
going
to
be
the
challenge-
then
web
2
organizations
will
not
be
able
to
compete
with
the
Synergy
and
the
doubt,
collaboration
that
will
be
afforded
by
this
change
right
because
they
will
have
to
transition
quickly
because
of
the
fundamental
changes
that
is
going
to
be
enabled
by
this
in
terms
of
collective
agency.
So
I
think
that
we
are
really
talking
about
changes
to
the
fabric
of
our
society,
and
you
know
this
may
be.
It
sounds
like
hyperbole.
A
A
Questions
in
terms
of
skills,
I
would
say:
no.
There
is
no
issue
of
skills
that
is
yet
at
the
degree
of
nuance
and
sophistication
that
there
needs
to
be.
If
you
start
talking
about
issue
of
like
decentralized
identities
as
credentials,
yeah
there's
already
loads,
I
mean
there's
like
bright
ID.
There's
fractal,
there's
lots
of
these
projects
that
are
trying
to
issue
these
credentials
in
the
most
privacy.
Preserving
way.
Whether
or
not
those
systems
are
perfect,
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
think
so.
A
I
think
there's
somebody
from
World
coin
or
whatever
said
he
had
two
identities,
so
probably
in
some
way.
It's
gameable
but
I
think
the
systems
of
reputation
that
grow
on
top
of
those
basic
decentralized
identities
then
will
eventually
build
a
better
web
of
trust.
So
I
would
say
to
answer
your
question:
no,
there
is
no
reputable
systems,
yet
this
is
super
early.
B
A
B
A
I
mean
there's
lots
of
security
mechanisms
to
be
able
to
prevent
this
I
mean
what
we're
talking
about
here.
It's
this
kind
of
skill
system.
That
gets
you
the
entry
right,
but
this
is
built
together
with
an
overall
reputation
system,
so
you
could
also
say
that
it's
a
combination
of
trustworthiness
via
a
matrix
of
skills
and
the
participation
in
the
platform
that
you
can
say
only
a
person
with
a
minimum
trust
can
come
in
if
I
break
that
trust,
then
maybe
I'm,
slashed,
socially
or
in
terms
of
tokens
or
in
some
way.
A
C
A
I
think
there's
lots
of
ways
to
build
a
skill
system
like
the
one
that
that
I
was
talking
about
here.
For
example,
you
could
even
start
with
self-assessment.
So
when
you
join
the
platform,
you
give
an
estimation
of
your
skills
and
abilities.
You
rate
yourself
in
this
kind
of
nuanced
contextual
system,
and
then
maybe
others
who
know
you
have
worked
with.
You
can
verify
you
over
time,
so
it
you,
don't
necessarily
have
to
start
a
skill
system
at
zero.
A
You
can
self-assess
and
then
stake
certain
things,
and
if
you
then
live
up
to
that
self-assessment,
then
you
can
participate
effectively
in
the
system.
If
you
don't
live
up
to
that
self-assessment,
then
you
are
slashed
in
some
way.
So
I
think
we
need
to,
of
course
be
realistic,
and
you
know
we
can't
expect
everybody
to
start
at
zero,
especially
what
happens
if
you
got
an
established
skill
system
and
then
you
know,
everybody
has
been
there
for
five
years
and
you
get
a
new
user.
Who's
has
nothing
that
what
is
it
gonna?
A
They
can't
compete
right,
so
there
needs
to
be
a
system
of
self-assessment
and
say
or
or
somebody
vouchers
for
you,
somebody
Stakes
their
reputation
and
says
this
person
has
the
skills
they
say
they
have
and
if
they
don't
then
they're
both
slashed.
So
there
are
mechanisms
to
get
a
head
start
in
the
skill
system
so
that
you
don't
get
left
behind.
You
know
if
that
answers
your
question
ideal.
A
D
A
So
I
think
the
social
credit
score
in
China
is
a
little
bit
different
because
it's
tied
to
you
as
a
person-
and
there
is
nothing
you
can
do
about
it,
because
you
will
only
ever
be
you
in
web
3.
In
theory,
you
know
I
could
create
a
new
wallet
and
generate
a
new
identity
and
start
from
scratch.
So
there
is
ways
for
you
to
reinvent
yourself
in
web
3
without
having
to
you
know,
create
a
whole
new
identity.
A
D
A
So
I
think
this
goes
a
little
bit
back
to
the
the
previous
answer
as
well,
so
be
able
to
say
that
they
are
skilled
in
a
certain
thing
and
maybe
they
can
then
be
a
probational
period.
For
example,
if
I
say
I'm
a
master
designer
and
I
join
a
Dao,
and
you
know
they
don't
know
it's
just
self-assessed
that
I'm
so
good
at
design.
Then,
for
example,
if
I
start
working
with
them,
maybe
the
money
that
I
earn
is
in
an
escrow
account.
A
So
like
a
third
party
during
this
probational
period,
for
example,
and
if
I
confirm
to
the
Dao,
if
they
say
actually,
this
person
has
been
doing
a
good
job,
then
the
money
is
paid
out
or
if
I
don't
live
up
to
those
expectations,
then
maybe
that
is
slashed
is
that
in
the
right
direction.
How
do
we
discover
this?
The
skill
or
I
am
not
sure
I
understand.
E
So,
as
you
said,
you're
basically
reinvating
Reinventing,
the
wheel,
the
qualification
and
credential
system
already
exists.
Yes,
non-digital
world
I
think
the
biggest
problem
with
scaling
it
to
the
larger
size
is
how
you
rate
the
issuers.
So
how
you
actually
make
sure
that
the
people
that
give
credentials
are
the
reputable
entities
yeah.