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A
All
right
welcome
everyone
for
another
EOS
Community
fireside
chat.
Today's
August
9th
2023
we've
got
a
pretty
interesting,
show,
lined
up
lots
of
topics
to
discuss
lots
of
news
being
dropped
yesterday
on
the
enf
hosted
Twitter
spaces
that
featured
Eve
we'll
be
talking
about
EOS
Labs
yield,
plus
pomelo
direct
Grand
framework.
We're
talking
also
about
class
action
updates.
We've
got
the
new
EOS
web
IDE
article
that
was
just
published.
There's
an
IBC
webinar
coming
up
boy.
It
had
its
five-year
anniversary
bunch
of
reports
to
review
monthly
report.
Er
support
report
report
as
well.
A
Eos
apologist
is
back
with
another
Banner
YouTube
video
and
then
also
we're
gonna,
hear
it
from
Patrick
for
updates
from
Eden.
So
we
got
a
bunch
of
topics,
a
bunch
of
great
guests,
for
you
guys
lined
up
for
a
lot
of
these
topics
and
we're
just
gonna
jump
right
into
it
all
right.
So
before
the
show
started
here,
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
run
a
poll
looks
like
we've
figured
out
how
to
do
it
in
the
Discord
text
chat.
A
So
if
you're
tuning
in
on
YouTube
Twitter
Facebook,
that's
great
we'd
love
for
you
to
tune
in
but
make
the
effort
join
us
on
Discord
participate
in
these
polls,
so
the
poll
is
going
to
be
fairly
simple
and
it's
gonna
be
asking
how
many
of
you
listen
to
the
Twitter
spaces
from
yesterday
or
heard
about
some
of
the
news
that
were
dropped
or
perhaps
having
listened,
and
you
not
too
sure
what
I'm
talking
about.
So
let
me
just
give
me
a
quick
second
here:
I'm
gonna
get
this
poll
going.
A
A
A
Okay,
we're
just
going
we're
just
going
with
it.
Did
you
listen
to
the
spaces
from
yesterday
with
Eve
and
if
you
didn't
listen,
but
you
heard
about
the
news
that
qualifies
as
a
yes
and
if
you
didn't
then
leave
a
no,
so
we're
gonna
be
going
over
these
topics.
I
think
Eve
is
going
to
be
joining
us
a
bit
later
on,
but
he
was
most
interested
actually
in
hearing
comments
from
the
community
hearing,
reactions
and
I'm
also
interested
to
hear
to
know
what
you
guys
think
about
this.
A
So
I'm
gonna
give
a
quick
unofficial
recap
of
yesterday's
enf
spaces
and
I'm
sure
Zach
and
Eve
Etc
will
jump
in
eventually
or
we'll
offer
some
more
precise
details,
but
basically
yesterday's
space
was
featuring
Eve
and
he
talked
a
lot
about
EOS
Labs.
So
this
is
a
new
entity.
He's
mentioned
it
on
the
Fireside
in
previous
weeks.
This
entity
is
going
to
be
responsible
for
Community
initiatives
moving
forward.
A
This
is
a
for-profit
entity
and
it's
going
to
be
receiving
a
portion
of
the
inflation
that
is
currently
allocated
to
the
enf
I
believe
it
is
25
percent
in
link
in
link
to
these.
The
creation
of
this
new
entity,
EOS
Labs,
there
are
a
few
programs
that
are
being
sunseted
so
yield
plus
yesterday
was
announced
that
that
program
is
now
over.
A
Eve
on
the
on
the
spaces
also
announced
that
for
pomelo
that
after
season,
seven,
which
is
upcoming,
there's
going
to
be
no
more
friend
funding
for
the
enf
either
for
a
matching
pool
or
development.
At
this
time,
if
you're
so
season,
six
claims,
if
you're
curious
for
the
pomelo
Grant
holders
out
there
season,
six
claims
are
going
to
be
available
soon
and
also
details
for
season.
Seven
are
going
to
be
shared
as
soon
as
they're
confirmed,
but
after
that
there's
no
more
funding
from
the
enf.
So
what
does
that
mean
for
pomelo?
A
Those
are
great
questions.
Daniel
Keys,
CEO
of
pomelo
is
here
with
us
today,
so
we'll
be
able
to
talk
to
him
or
he'll
be
able
to
answer
your
questions.
A
If
you
have
some
and
then
the
other
big
piece
of
news
from
yesterday
is
that
the
direct
Grant
framework
is
also
going
to
be
sunsetted
and
those
functions
are
gonna
kind
of
gonna,
be
you
know,
responsible
by
EOS
Labs,
which
is
going
to
be
an
independent
entity
from
the
EOS
Network
Foundation
that
is
going
to
be
accountable
to
the
block
producers
directly
for
its
funding.
Just
like
the
EOS
Network
Foundation
is
accountable
directly
to
the
block
producers
for
its
funding,
all
right.
A
So
on
our
little
unofficial
poll
here
we
got
11
UPS
four
downs
kind
of
what
I
was
expecting
so
I'm
just
gonna.
Leave
it
there
for
now
and
I
would
love
to
get
some
of
you
guys
Impressions,
either
in
the
text,
chat
or
preferably
jump
on
stage
here,
grab
a
mic
and
yeah.
Let
us
know
what
you
think
about
all
of
these
announcements.
A
Yeah
but
I
think
he's
waiting
for
you
guys
to
share
your
comments
and
reactions
before
you
know.
He
I
guess
repeats
the
message
or
or
gives
more
of
his
comments.
A
I
was
pretty
shocked
yesterday
during
the
I
had
no
idea
that
Eve
was
going
to
be
announcing
all
these
things
I
had
we
had
planned
for
a
different
different
topics.
It
included
EOS
Labs,
but
there
was
also
other
topics
involved.
So
I
was
throwing
a
curveball
yesterday
out
there
on
the
enf
spaces.
Hope
I,
don't
I,
hope
I
didn't
look
too
lost
out
there,
but
yeah
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
big
yeah.
Big
changes
coming
I
guess.
A
A
Great
question,
I'm,
not
sure
who
from
the
enf
is
out
here
just
yet,
maybe
we'll
keep
it
for
them,
but
I
do
believe
that
there's
still
going
to
be
a
focus
for
the
enf
and
for
Eos
Network
Ventures,
and
maybe
yes
Labs
as
well
to
be
focused
on
evm
game.
Five
I
think
that's
still
a
theme,
that's
going
to
be
popular,
but
that's
my
impression
at
this
point,
it'll
be
good
to
hear
from
from
guys
from
dnf
to
confirm
all
this
too.
A
Maybe
a
quick
overview
for
people
who
didn't
hear
ask
smell
yeah,
so
I
gave
the
quick
overview
as
far
as
I
understand
it.
You
know
there
was
a
lot
of
more
details
and
reasoning,
and
you
know
there's
obviously
a
lot
shared
the
Twitter
space
event
lasted
over
an
hour
and
a
half
one
of
the
things
obviously
is.
That
is
a
consideration
in
all.
This
is
the
price
of
the
token
in
terms
of
how
much
funding
there's
an
available
for
the
enf
to
deploy
These
funds
to
the
community.
A
So
one
of
the
aspects
that
was
highlighted
is
that
whatever
it
cost
to
run,
for
example,
the
direct
Grant
framework
every
month,
those
are
fixed
costs,
there's
human
resources,
those
are
fixed
costs
in
terms
of
dollars,
but
when
the
amount
of
EOS
distributed
stays
the
same,
but
the
dollar
value
of
that
EOS
goes
down.
Well,
then
you
have
a
situation
where
you
have
fixed
cost
and
for
a
benefit
that
is
diminishing,
and
so
that
means
that
that
ratio
becomes
worse
and
worse
over
time.
A
Lewis
asks
will
EOS
Labs,
be
more
of
an
incubator,
an
accelerator
or
a
launch
pad
or
all
of
the
above
great
question,
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
EOS
Labs
will
look
like
more
I
think
there,
a
lot
of
options
are
being
explored
right
now,
you'll
ask:
how
deep
did
we
get
into
the
details
of
EOS
Labs
yesterday
very
deep?
It
was
basically
an
hour
and
a
half
Eve
talking
about
EOS
labs
in
all
various
aspects
of
you
know
things
that
influence
that
decision.
A
Mel
says
it's
not
an
incubator
Aaron
thinks
that
it
kind
of
is
as
far
as
he
understands
it
and
Eli's
been
out
of
the
loop
for
a
bit
and
is
wondering
what's
happening
with
Eden
funding.
Great
questions.
Eli
we'll
be
talking
with
Patrick
from
Eden
one
of
the
cheetah
against
later
today.
I
think,
but
at
this
point
I'm
not
sure
that
enf
has
made
any
commitments
to
fund
Eden
I,
don't
think
they
have.
A
Tony's,
asking
is
pomelo
going
to
continue
or
am
I
jumping
the
gun.
As
far
as
the
Fireside
goes,
you
can
jump
the
gun
as
much
as
you
want
on
the
far
side,
we'll
go
wherever
the
wherever
the
bullets
are
flying,
I
guess
but
yeah
we
can.
We
can
see
if
Daniel's
available
at
this
time,
to
maybe
talk
a
bit
about
the
future
of
pomelo,
but
we
can
also
get
to
that
in
a
little
bit.
If
you
guys
have
more
I
have
other
questions.
C
How's
it
going
okay.
So
it's
going
well
happy
to
be
here
answering
questions
so
yeah
big,
big
news
yesterday.
Obviously
we're
disappointed
to
lose
enf
as
a
national
partner.
They've
been
an
awesome
supporter
of
ours
since
prior
to
the
launch
of
Melo
and
we're
really
thankful
for
all
the
support
we've
got
for
from
enf
up
to
this
point.
C
As
far
as
the
future
of
Pamela
that
we're
still
exploring
what
exactly
that
might
look
like,
obviously
losing
funding
from
our
our
top
contributor
is
going
to
have
a
hit
on
our
operations.
But
we
are
in
discussions
with
the
youth
Labs,
seeing
if
there's
a
right
fit
there
with
pomelo
and
EOS
Labs,
as
well
as
other
matching
Partners,
and
as
soon
as
we
have
more
information
to
share
there.
C
We
will
right
now
still
at
this
point
too
soon
to
say
for
sure,
but
season
seven
is
on
we're
really
excited
to
to
get
season
7
out
and
and
hopefully
make
it
the
best
season
yet
and
and
yeah
really
proud
of
all
the
work
that
the
pomelo
team
has
done.
Really
thankful
for
the
support
from
the
EOS
community
and
and,
like
I,
said
we're
yeah
until
we
explore
the
options
more
we're
still
operating
as
if
pomelo
is,
is
going
forward.
As
always.
D
A
quick
question
Daniel:
how
much
will
be
there
in
the
in
the
pomelo
pot?
Oh,
how
many
funds
will
be
distributed
in
the
in
season?
Seven,
seven.
C
So
stay
tuned
for
announcement
on
that
very
soon,
hopefully,
in
the
coming
week
or
two
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
announce
the
the
season,
seven
matching
pool
all
right.
Thank
you
and
the
two,
the
terms
too
we're
we're
exploring.
You
know
whether
it's
going
to
be
a
multi-cool
single
pool,
dual
pool
so
anyway,
we'll
have
we'll
have
more
on
both
the
amounts
and
all
the
acceptance
criteria
for
each
of
the
pools.
All.
A
Thanks
for
joining
Corbin
Daniel,
maybe
last
question:
do
we
have
any
updates
on
the
season?
Six
claims.
C
So
the
appeal
period
is
now
over
we're
just
kind
of
wrapping
up
some
last
finishing
touches
on
on
the
operation
side
to
open
up
for
claims.
So
our
goal
is
to
open
up
for
claims
by
the
end
of
this
week.
It's
possible
that
we'll
push
into
early
next
week.
As
soon
as
we
have
the
date,
we
will
share
that
the
funds
do
still
need
to
be
transferred
over
from
enf
to
the
claiming
contract,
which
that
will
take
a
minimum
of
three
days
when
that's
executed.
C
So
it'll
be
basically
three
days
from
the
time
the
that
msig
is
executed
to
transfer
the
funds
from
enf
and
that's
something
we
always
kind
of
wait
till
the
very
last
moment
to
transfer
the
funds
so
that
we
can
be
as
close
to
the
dollar
value
as
possible,
that
that
was
advertised
in
the
matching
pool
with
the
with
the
enf
matching
pools,
as
as
always
every
season.
C
That's
a
good
question,
possibly
that's!
Actually
one
of
the
scenarios
we're
exploring
with
EOS
Labs,
that's
sort
of
the
the
area
that
EOS
Labs
is
focused
on
so
finding
ways
to
position
pomelo
to
help
help
action.
Not
just
you
know,
almost
help.
Projects
find
that
fit
and
become
profitable
in
in
their
journey
to
getting
funding
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
options
we're
exploring.
C
B
But
what
I
heard
yesterday
was
a
shift.
What
I
heard
yesterday
was
a
shift
from
public
goods
or
public
money.
Inflation
being
shifted
from
mostly
Western
recipients
was
destined
for
mostly
Western
recipients,
who
now
it
appears
at
Eastern.
Recipient
Which
is
less
important
than
going
from
public
to
private.
B
B
B
Is
I
don't
understand
how
we're
we're
justifying
taking
public
money
and
giving
it
to
a
private
Enterprise,
and
then
my
my
follow-on
question
is:
who
owns
that
who
owns
EOS
Labs?
How
do
you
become
a
beneficiary
of
money
that
is
being
delivered
from
inflation
to
that
group?
How
do
you
become
one
of
those
owners,
someone
who
has
equity
in
that
in
that
business?
Who
has
an
interest
in
EOS
labs?
E
I'm
I'm
curious
Chris
wrote
that
he's
shocked
access
to
network
funding
as
being
further
centralized,
but
I'm
wondering
how
you
see
the
addition
of
a
second
separate
body
receiving
Network
inflation
to
build
is
further
centralized.
Echoing
what
Aaron
just
wrote.
F
G
Mean
I
was
being
facetious,
I,
think
anyone
paying
attention
is
aware
of
my
general
views
on
the
shape
of
the
network,
but
pamelo
allowed
an
opportunity
for
any
Community
member
to
receive
funding
for
the
most
part,
once
I
got
through
the
gates
of
the
EOS
Nation
team
themselves
and
same
with
the
grant
program
allowed
any
member
and
was
very
transparent
and
in
the
open
is
the
other
piece
right.
So
you
could
see
clearly
who
the
grant
submissions
were
the
process
they
were
at.
It
was
all
very
in
the
open.
E
I
get
what
you're
saying
now
yeah
I
think
we
all
have
feelings
about
the
pomelo
situation
and
I'm
just
hopeful
that
it'll
re-emerge
in
some
way
shape
or
form,
as
you've
kind
of
alluded
to
could
parts
of
it
could
be
picked
up
or
funded
through
Labs
or
I'm?
Also,
I,
don't
know
if
this
was
covered.
E
I
got
here
a
little
late,
I,
don't
know
if
this
was
covered
or
not,
but
I'm
curious,
like
a
lot
of
work,
has
been
put
into
the
the
Bounty
program
and
I
see
that
super
beneficial
and
needed
in
our
ecosystem
and
I'm
wondering
like
how
how
that
can
continue
to
function.
C
So
I
can
say
that
that's
something
we're
still
exploring
too
on
what
what's
next
for
the
bounties
platform,
with
weights
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
I
think
you've
been
doing
some
testing
with
us,
which
has
been
super
valuable.
Thank
you
for
your
help:
testing
bounties
platform
yeah,
it's
very
close
to
being
ready
to
launch.
Obviously
there
is
a
cost
to
operating
a
platform
light
bounties.
The
the
back
use
platform
would
have
a
much
lower
cost
to
operate
than
the
grants
platform.
C
It's
a
lighter
touch,
type
of
a
system,
no
Grant
reviews
or
civil
analysis
or
any
of
that
sort
of
thing.
That
is
a
heavy
operational
load
for
the
Pamela
team,
but
we
do
still
need
to
explore
how
we
you
know.
Is
there
enough
funding
in
the
ecosystem?
Is
there?
Is
there
enough
bounties
generating
enough
fees
to
continue
operating
the
bounties
platform?
C
So
you
know
some
of
our
ongoing
conversations
with
eof
lab
will
will
factor
into
that,
as
well
as
other
stakeholders
in
the
ecosystem
and
and
yeah
I
would
love
to
hear
from
folks
on
this
call
appetite
for
a
bounties
platform.
Whether
you
would
see
yourselves
continue
to
use.
Bounties,
whether
or
not
there
is
a
a
grant
program
in
place.
E
I
mean
for
me,
a
bounties
program
is
the
only
way
I'm
going
to
get
anything
built
because
I'm
not
a
developer,
so
you
know
and
I
I
enjoyed
the
potential
Synergy
between
the
two,
of
course,
with
grants
and
then
being
able
to.
Then
you
know
fund
bounties
through
the
grants
essentially
but
I.
Guess.
If
you
remove
that
one
component,
there's
still
yeah,
the
question
remains:
I
guess
like
where's,
the
fun
funding
coming
from
I
mean
individual
project
owners
can
can
self-fund
and
I'm
sure.
H
I
mean
even
as
a
developer,
I
think
I'm
excited
for
bounties
to
be
able
to
do
the
things
that
I
can't
allocate
time
to
I
think
the
big
concern.
There,
though,
is
that,
like
the
current
mechanism,
that
of
the
the
seasons
like
if
that's
losing
steam,
then
the
the
application
effect
that
that
would
have
had
on
bounties
is
going
to
cause
less
traction
on
the
platform
and
potentially
make
that
tool
less
valuable.
H
C
C
Yeah
so
just
like
grass,
the
the
plan
is
to
make
it
multilingual
to
start
English,
Chinese
and
Korean
and
yeah.
So
that's
that's.
The
plan.
I
I'm
not
totally
sure
of
the
structure
of
how
the
bounties
will
work
on
pomelo,
but
from
my
experience
trying
to
work
with
people
in
that
context
it
requires
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
on
onboarding
them
getting
them
up
to
speed
and
then
checking
their
work
and
making
sure
that
they
did
what
they
were
supposed
to
do
and
that's
not
for
Wolfie.
You
know
for
very
simple
tasks:
it's
fine,
but
for
anything,
that's
kind
of
complicated.
I
You
almost
need,
like
someone,
a
third
party
to
come
in
to
actually
do
the
inspection
and
the
management.
So
if
I
were
building
the
Donnie
program,
I
would
have
the
ability
for
the
Bounty
proposer
to
let
like
a
project
manager
from
pomelo
manage
the
Bounty
and
Ensure
the
deliverables
are
within
spec
and
taking
a
cut
of
the
of
the
proceeds.
F
A
A
Okay,
so
I
guess,
let's
keep
the
show
going.
Obviously,
at
the
end
of
the
show,
there's
the
open
mic
section
where
we
encourage
anyone
to
ask
any
questions:
share
updates
Etc,
so
we
can
always
Circle
back
to
these
topics
if
we
want
to
in
just
a
little
bit
all
right.
The
other
big
piece
of
news
is
regarding
the
class
action
against
block
one.
The
enf
officially
recommended
people
to
opt
out.
There's
a
tweet
about
it
here
that
I'm
gonna
share
in
the
chat.
The
block
picked
up
the
story
as
well.
A
Of
this,
this
update
is
getting
out
there
to
the
entire
crypto
space
and
then
also
yesterday
on
this
on
the
Twitter
spaces.
There
is,
there
was
confirmation
that
there's
a
flowchart
that
is
coming,
that's
gonna,
be
shared
with
the
community.
Soon
enough,
that's
gonna
allow
people
to
easily
understand
the
different
options
that
are
available
to
everyone
right
now
for
myself,
I
used
the
form
that
the
enf
requested
for
the
opt-out.
It
was
quite
easy
right
there
on
the
link
and
then
the
deadline
for
that
is
August
29th.
A
So
make
sure
make
sure
to
understand
the
situation
opt
out.
If
that's
what
you
think
is
best
for
you
and
maybe
share
this
news,
or
this
link
with
other
friends
and
family
members.
You
may
know
that
may
have
may
have
the
ability
to
opt
out
of
this.
This
summon
potentially
opt
into
another
one.
A
I
see
Nathan
James
is
in
the
chat.
I
will
be
inviting
him
on
stage
in
just
a
little
bit,
but
before
we
get
to
that,
the
EOS
web
IDE
blog
post
is
out
sharing
a
bit
of
features.
Nathan
was
on
the
far
side
last
week
talking
about
it,
there's
a
blog
post.
Now
that
you
can
refer
to
if
you're
wondering
exactly
what
this
is
all
about.
I'll
give
you
guys
a
quick
overview
of
some
of
the
highlights
of
this
article
is
very
small.
A
Basically,
a
web
IDE
is
an
integrated
development
environment
that
runs
in
your
browser.
It
allows
you
to
write,
compile
and
deploy
your
smart
contract
to
the
blockchain
without
ever
leaving
your
browser
or
installing
any
software
sounds
cool.
So
the
EOS
web
IDE
features
code
highlighting
and
autocomplete
build
web
assembly
directly
from
the
browser
deploy
projects
to
the
Jungle
or
mainnet
effortlessly
interact
with
deployed
contracts
on
jumble
and
automatic
code
saving.
So
there
you
go
some
good
stuff
for
the
EOS
devs
out
there
see
Nathan
James
here
wants
to
wait
a
little
bit
finish.
A
A
I
also
notice,
John
from
Boyd
in
the
chat
actually
came
on
stage
earlier,
asked
the
question
John
if
you're
available
at
this
point,
I'd
like
you
to
come,
talk
to
us
about
Boyd's
five-year
anniversary
and
this
new
project
you're
about
to
announce.
I
Sure
yeah
thanks
Steph
yeah,
so
it's
the
five
year
anniversary
five
years
since
I
launched
the
Boyd
project.
I
guess
I
actually
was
working
on
it
for
like
six
months
before
that,
but
the
kind
of
when
we
went
on
chain
it's
about
five
in
about
five
years
and
we're
doing
a
a
little
getaway,
a
few
team
members
in
Miami
Florida
and
we're
meeting
up
with
some
Boyd
community
members
in
in
Florida.
I
So
if
anyone
is
in
the
area,
maybe
we'll
meet
up
with
you
and
yeah
we're
making
really
good
progress
on
our
IBC
plans.
So
we
got
a
pomelo.
We
got
some
funding
through
pomelo
and
also
through
Telos
works
over
the
past
year.
Well,
actually,
over
the
past
two
years
is
when
we
got
the
Telus
Works
funds
to
build
an
IBC
solution.
I
And
finally,
now
we
are
about
ready
to
launch
the
antelope
x,
dot
IO
portal,
which
I
am
still
battling
with
some
back-end
code,
but
it's
almost
there
so
and
I'm
trying
to
finish
it
before
we
go
on
our
trip,
so
it'll
be
the
big
difference
with
envelope.
X
is
that
we
have
a
back-end
service
that
relays
your
transaction
on
your
behalf,
but
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
pushing
two
transactions.
You
just
push
the
one
transaction
on
the
origin
origin
chain,
and
then
we,
our
server,
will
will
relay
it
on
the
destination
chain.
I
For
you
and
another
Advantage
is
that
there's
a
small
fee
included
with
each
transfer
and
the
fee
can
be
collected
by
the
servers
that
push
your
transaction
so
we're
trying
to
make
an
IBC
solution
which
is
kind
of
economically
viable
and
it's
built
on
top
of
the
ux.
You
know
the
official
ux
IBC
smart
contracts
that
they
wrote,
which
we
have,
which
are
you
know
very
good
and
very
safe.
So.
A
All
right
awesome,
congratulations
on
the
five-year
anniversary!
That's
awesome!
I
hope
you
guys
have
a
good
good
trip
in
Miami,
I
hope
to
see
some
pics
shared
in
the
next
Fireside
or
whenever
you
guys
are
back,
sounds
like
fun.
E
Hey
real
quick,
John
I,
don't
know
if
you
got
an
invite
properly
to
the
webinar
that
we're
having
tomorrow,
but
if
you'd
like
to
be
there
for
that,
I'll
make
sure
you're
on
the
stage.
So
you
can
ask
good
questions.
Maybe
you
can
just
get
gnome
to
fix,
fix
all
anything
encountering
you're
encountering
problems
with
live
on
the
show
on
the
webinar.
I
Annoyed
him
enough
I
think,
but
if
you
want
to
be
there,
basically
just
stop
responding
to
our
messages
at
this
point.
But
you
know
that's
what
it's
like
working
with
new
technology.
You
know
so
now
I'm
actually
going
to
be
I'm,
pretty
sure
I'm
gonna
be
flying
at
that
time,
but
Seth
and
my
team
should
should
be
there.
Oh,
so
so
yeah.
Maybe
he
can
be
on
the
stage.
E
Maybe
you
could
shoot
me
his
email
address,
so
I
can
add
him
as
a
co-presenter
that'd
be
ideal.
I
A
I
guess
we're
into
the
antelope
IBC
webinar
News
segment
of
the
show
I
was
hoping,
Nathan
James
could
come
on
and
talk
to
us
a
bit
about
what
we'll
be
learning
in
that
webinar.
But
for
now
I
can
at
least.
J
J
It's
been
aimed
at
a
non-technical
audience,
and
this
time
we
wanted
to
really
double
down
on
it's
going
deep
into
the
technology
explaining
why
everything
works
the
way
it
works,
how
it
works,
the
way
it
works
and
providing
I
guess
something
that
we
can
start
creating
lots
of
educational
content
based
on
top
of
so
for
those
who
are
faint
of
heart,
your
eyes,
glaze
over.
If
you
get
too
much
too
technical,
probably
not
your
thing
for
the
rest
of
us.
You're
definitely
gonna
enjoy
yourself.
A
All
right,
thanks
Nathan,
for
taking
a
little
break
and
promoting
a
bit
the
envelope
IPC
for
tomorrow.
There's
also
a
gleam
contest
going
on
right
now,
so
you
can
help
us
spread.
The
word
join
The
Gleam
contest
win
some
ERS,
potentially.
E
E
E
Before
we
move
on
to
the
next
topic,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
yeah
again,
congratulations
to
John
and
the
boy
team.
You
know
when
this
network
first
launched
back
in
the
day
and
Boyd
started
running
and
you
could
mine
Boyd
and
contribute
to
mapping
out.
You
know
mathematical,
using
using
math
to
find
like
different
sequences
for
medical
applications
and
stuff,
like
that.
E
It
was
really
cool
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
John
was
one
of
the
most
approachable
people
when
I
first
was
around
and
if
you
ever
had
a
problem
with
the
early.
You
know
mining
software
and
stuff.
You
could
either
reach
out
and
he
would
always
get
back
to
you,
and
that
was
one
of
the
first
touch
points
I
had
in
the
Eos
ecosystem,
so
good
memories,
I'm
glad
you're
still
with
us.
I
Thanks
Lovejoy
yeah
I
wish
we
I
wish.
We
had
more
time
to
hang
out
at
in
Austin,
but.
A
Basically,
if
you
haven't
been
attending
the
firesides
in
July,
you
can
get
up
to
date
on
all
the
news
of
the
month,
including
EOS
CDM
updates
the
developer
incentive
program.
The
bloxic
partnership
there's
been
a
bunch
of
EDM
Integrations,
of
course,
opened
by
sea
Moto,
decks,
math
wallet,
collectify
nerve
network,
evm,
name
service.
The
quarterly
report
was
released,
LEAP
5
was
announced.
A
The
block
producer
meeting
recap
was
published,
as
well
as
the
programs
and
operations
report.
Eos
support
shared
some
information
as
well
as
Miss,
sorry
and
then
Eve
was
in
Japan.
So
you
got
a
little
recap
of
all
of
those
big
highlights
from
July
available
for
you.
If
you
want
to
EOS
Support
also
publishes
monthly
reports.
These
are
mostly
aimed
at
highlighting
their
stats
and
performance
over
the
month
of
July,
of
course,
and
it's
actually
really
well
done.
There's
lots
of
graphics
and
lots
of
interesting
stats
that
you
can
find.
A
For
example,
you
know
if
anyone
has
a
question.
It's
easy
to
go
to
eosupport.io
and
then
have
a
live
agent
ready
to
answer
your
question
so
I
definitely
send
a
lot
of
people
to
ER
support
whenever
I
get
pinged
on
social
media
about
various
EOS
questions
it's
great
and
then
they
see
here
you
see
a
list
of
the
top
conversation
tags
in
July.
A
You
can
see
that
there
was
a
lot
of
EOS
scam
prevention
and
then
that
was
actually
the
biggest
type
of
request
that
they
got
and
then
of
course,
questions
about
EOS
accounts,
wallets
and
communities
and
daps
and
ecosystem
and
so
forth.
So
all
sorts
of
cool
information.
You
can
see
from
your
support
there
in
their
monthly
report.
A
All
right
and
then
what
else
did
we
have
here?
Yeah
I
think
that's
it
for
the
reports.
Moving
on
EOS
apologist
is
back,
I,
know,
I'm.
Sure
many
of
you
who
are
around
in
the
community
a
couple
years
ago
remember
EOS
apologists,
YouTube
videos.
These
are
highly
speculative,
highly
hyped
up
videos.
This
one
talks
about
x.com
the
new
platform
that
Elon
Musk
wants
to
turn
Twitter
into
and
how
cryptocurrencies
are
likely
to
be
integrated
and,
of
course,
how
EOS
is
highly
performant.
Nature
would
be
a
match
made
in
heaven
forex.com.
A
A
All
right,
EOS,
node
operator,
round
table
that
was
the
other
one.
I
wanted
to
review
real
quickly
share
the
link
in
the
chat
here.
Basically,
this
is
for,
like
it
says,
the
node
operators
of
the
network
in
this
summary
they're
talking
about
configuration,
changes
for
lead,
5.0,
subjective
billing,
faster
blocks
and
a
bunch
of
other
highly
technical
things
that
you
can
go
read
if
you're
interested
in.
A
All
right
we're
almost
done
the
topics
I
had
lined
up
for
today
wasn't
expecting
this
to
be
a
quick
show
wondering
if
Patrick
is
around
one
of
our
chief
delegates
for
Eden
this
cycle
see
if
he
wants
to
chat
a
bit
about
the
kind
of
work
they're
doing
I,
don't
think
he
is
right
now,
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
skip
this
topic
for
now.
I
will
share
the
latest
YouTube
video,
there's
a
new
Eden
YouTube
channel
that
the
the
delegates
are
going
to
be
using
to
post
their
videos.
A
So
you
can
subscribe
to
that
new
channel
and
you
can
watch
the
latest
meeting
there.
If
you
want
all
right
so
Community
Open
Mic.
What
are
we
doing?
We
circling
back
to
EOS
labs
and
all
the
big
news
does
anyone
else
have
any
other
comments
they
want
to
share
with
the
community
feel
free
to
jump
on
I
had
a.
K
From
my
understanding,
the
block
one
settlement
site
claims
that
you
can't
organize
group
opt-outs.
Would
this
be
considered
a
group
opt-out.
L
Chat
literally
in
the
process
of
writing
just
trying
to
get
the
words
right,
there's
a
there's,
a
reason
jot
form
was
selected,
so
jot
form
is
very
similar
to
DocuSign.
So
if
you
think
about
when
you
sign
a
DocuSign,
there's
a
digital
audit
Trail
and
an
e-signature
for
each
individual
who
signs
a
contract.
C
L
This
web
form
has
all
of
that
information,
so
if
it
were
considered
a
group
opt
out
it'd,
be
the
same
as
like
the
mailman
doing
a
group
opt-out
because
he's
delivering
the
envelope
to
the
law
office.
It's
the
means
of
how
it
gets
delivered
doesn't
affect
whether
or
not
it's
a
group
opt-out,
because
every
individual
is
signing
off
on
it.
L
It
was
so
I'm
not
sure
how
the
Nemesis
one
works,
for
example,
but
the
the
web
form
that
was
posted
yesterday,
it's
being
done
in
a
way
that
ensures
that
it's
not
considered
a
group
opt
out.
K
L
Yeah,
because
even
on
the
the
block
one
settlement
website,
they
have
a
very
easy
to
use
webiform
to
give
them
your
information
to
opt
in.
They
make
it
extremely
difficult
to
opt
out
in
a
letter,
for
example,
and
I
I
saw
max
payload
mentioned
that
he
emailed
their
email
address
a
week
ago
and
hadn't
received
the
reply.
I
don't
think
that's
necessarily
a
risk
for
concern
if
we're
still
in
a
good
time
frame.
But
it's
not
a
group
opt
out.
L
L
It's
not
yeah,
it's
it's
not
like
we're.
We
created
a
new
class
and
said
like
as
a
class,
we're
opting
everyone
out
as
a
group.
It's
not
like
we're
representing,
let's
say
the
the
block
producers
or
any
group
and
saying
we're
opting
out
on
behalf
of
this
group.
That's
that's
not
what's
going
on!
Think
of
it
like
a
sealed
digital
envelope,
that's
just
getting
delivered
on
your
behalf,
but
you
signed
it.
You
sealed
it.
It's
got
a
provable
digital
audit
Trail.
L
K
L
Yeah,
so
that
was
one
of
the
original
things
was
like
providing
a
letter
template,
for
example,
that
says
like
all
of
the
information,
but
it
it
just
made
it.
The
web
form
just
made
it
so
much
easier,
and
then
it
was
just
a
matter
of
getting
something
that
worked
because
the
digital
signature
and
that's,
why
I
have
to
sign
it
with
your
finger.
L
A
A
A
B
A
E
M
Awesome,
hey
I
was
just
typing
that
in
thank
you.
Actually,
we've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
EOS
and
alien
worlds
lately
in
terms
of
the
planets,
because
we've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
IBC
tlm
and
we're
super
excited
to
finally
get
our
families
officially
token
wise
connected
because
we're.
Obviously
many
of
us
are
from
the
same
communities
and
it's
just
frustrating
it,
not
all
you
know
being
seamless.
M
You
know
obviously
there's
a
huge
benefit
to
off-ramping
and
EOS,
because
it's
on
coinbase
and
there's
probably
other
places
around
the
world,
and
so
that's
a
natural,
but
there's
also
so
many
other
opportunities
Trillium
is
is
typically
like
rewards
for
doing
things.
So
you
know
we're
giving
that
out
from
the
planets
for
people
who
were
building
smart
contracts
or
designing,
or
you
know,
setting
up
communities
or
things
like
that,
and
so
I'm
really
interested
I
want
to
pose
it
now
and
for
the
future
to
consider.
M
You
know,
on
a
technological,
you
know
level
and
on
a
conceptual
level,
and
this
is
a
great
time
and
opportunity
for
those
of
us
who
are,
you,
know,
know
what
each
other
is
doing
to
enact
those
things,
and
so
I'd
love
to
hear
if
people
have
thoughts
about
that,
either
now
or
later
in
at
Planet,
Ike
telegram
chat
or,
however,
at
least
a
Chandler.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
thanks,
Lisa
I,
would
love
to
see
more
integration
with
Alien
worlds
and
EOS
and
IBC
TL's
tlm
would
be
great.
M
Yeah,
we're
very
excited
to
send
some
IBC
tlm
to
pomelo,
as
our
First
Act
once
John
finishes,
it
I
hear
it's
coming
soon,
in
spite
of
all
the
other
things
going
on.
So
that's
we're
really
looking
forward
to
starting
to
support.
What's
already
happening.
M
There
is
adding
Trillium
to
that
IBC
Trillium
and
it's
easy
then
to
move
it
to
you,
know
whatever
and
hopefully
come
up
with
more
ways
to
integrate
Trillium
as
a
game
token,
if
no
one's
heard
we're
giving
it
away
and
it's
giveaway
Trillium
to
people
who
build
and
create
things.
You
know,
and
it's
a
it's
a
game
token.
So
it's
ideally
meant
for
rewards
for
people
who
do
things
in
games
and
so
I
know
a
lot
of
EOS.
M
People
are
thinking
about
that
and
I'm
really
interested
to
hear
how
people
are
using
EOS
in
you
know,
in
games,
so,
like
I
was
talking
to
Joe
space
Wrangler
yesterday
about
talking
about
Upland
at
the
interplanetary
on
conference,
that's
coming
up
in
September
and
October.
M
You
can
go
to
interplanetary
on
conference.com
and
enjoy,
but
for
people
who
are
caring
about
the
interplanetary
activities
in
the
alien
world's
metaverse,
and
we
want
to
really
understand,
like
you
know,
how
are
EOS
tokens
being
used
in
games
and
how
our
Trillium
tokens
being
used
in
games
and
what
those
paths
could
be.
M
You
know
it's
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity,
but
where
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity,
it
takes
a
lot
of
thinking
to
get
it
down
specific
to
what's
happening,
but
there's
some
really
exciting
things
coming
up,
there's
a
new
game
that
is
just
launching
on
one
of
the
antelope
tokens,
which
sort
of
fits
into
the
whole
picture
as
well,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
fun
when
we
get
to
announce
that.
M
So
it's
an
exciting
time
like
it's,
it's
really
I'm
so
grateful
that
it's
somewhat
of
a
quiet
time
in
terms
of
the
public
crazy,
but
at
the
same
time
we
like
that.
We
never
know
when
that's
going
to
hit
so
everyone's.
Let
you
know,
nfts
are
going
on.
Google
Play,
December,
7th
and
people
are
able
to
start
applying
now,
and
so
people
are
thinking.
Okay:
let's
what
do
we
need
to
have
ready
just
in
case
a
lot
of
people
show
up
because
we've
been
through
some
of
us
been
through
this
before
and
we're
like.
M
You
know
we're
grateful
to
have
a
moment
if
possible,
to
get
ready.
So
it's
a
good
time
to
think
about
it.
Instead
of
anything,
we
need
to
be
doing
to
connect
in
whatever
ways
that
we
can
and
and
what's
so
great
about
decentralized
Community.
We
can
do
whatever
anyone
really
wants
to
do.
They
just
do
it
right
and
people
help
if
they're
interested-
and
it's
really
quite
amazing-
to
see
it
in
action.
M
M
You
know
like
they're
there,
and
this
gives
them
an
easy
way
to
kind
of
see
a
path
forward
of
how
to
play
in
the
world
where
you're
creating.
So
it's
really
awesome
and
please
come
come
all
to
Planet.
Ikea
join
the
fun.
Ask
for
Trillium.
Add
your
ideas
whatever
it
is,
that
you
think
would
be
good,
that's
how
it
works
and.
A
M
A
That's
awesome:
Lisa
I
love
your
enthusiasm
if
I
may,
if
you
can
give
a
quick
overview
of
the
planet
system
in
Alien
worlds,
because
I'm
not
sure
everyone
here
is
familiar
with
it.
Basically,
from
what
I
understand
from
what
I
looked
into
a
couple
months
ago,
there's
six
different
planets,
there's
people
that
are
elected
to
the
Council
of
these
planets
and
then
every
week
these
people
can
allocate
funding
to
various
projects
that
apply.
A
So
in
that
way
there
are
some
similarities
to
pomelo,
where
you
can
propose
working
on
a
public
good
and
then
one
of
these
planets
can
fund
you
with
tlm,
and
these
applications
run
a
weekly.
These
budgets
for
these
planets
can
accumulate
over
time.
They
can
fund
bigger
scope,
smaller
scope
and
actually
a
while
back
I.
Think
I,
don't
know.
Maybe
six
months
ago,
when
I
was
looking
into
it,
there
was
actually
more
money
being
distributed
through
the
the
alien
world
planets
than
there
was
through
pomelo,
for
example.
So
it's
definitely
not.
You
know
it's.
A
It's
not
it's
significant
amounts
of
money
that
are
distributed
through
alien
world
planets.
So
that's
very
interesting
and
basically
that's
kind
of
like
the
third
form
of
the
alien
worlds
game.
We
may
remember
alien
world
as
a
click
Miner,
which
was
kind
of
the
first
iteration
of
alien
worlds,
and
that
was
basically
a
way
to
distribute
the
tokens.
And
then
there
were
some
Adventures
or
kind
of
a
defy
element
added
on
top
of
that,
where
people
could
lock
up
their
token
for
a
certain
amount
of
times
in
their
own
rewards
and
now
the
latest.
A
The
latest
form
is
the
alien
World
game
of
dows.
With
these
planets
that
are
elected,
elected
and
then
you
vote,
of
course,
with
your
tlm.
So
people
that
have
a
cumulative
tlm
can
now
elect
the
representatives
that
are
in
charge
of
funding
cool
ideas
from
all
sorts
of
people,
from
all
sorts
of
communities
to
build
in
the
alien
world's
ecosystem.
A
M
Hey
that's
a
great
summary
right.
There
two
is
there's
the
game
that
the
company
runs,
which
is
the
system
that
gets
us
elected
right.
People
can
go
vote
and
all
of
that
and
it's
in
the
same
interface
as
the
original
mining
game
and
the
second
missions
game
and
the
you
know
now,
this
third
syndicates
game,
but
once
that
Trillium
goes
out
into
the
community,
that's
the
community
game,
that's
the
metaverse!
And
if
you
look
at
alien
world's
website
it
says
a
community
built
metaverse,
a
metaverse
built
by
its
Community
I.
M
Think
technically
right
and
so
that's
a
whole
different
thing
and
that's
people
are,
you
know,
have
their
alliances,
their
groups,
their
strategies
and
each
of
the
planets
are
very
different,
like
several
of
the
planets
focus
on
games
that
they're
putting
a
lot
of
resources
into
some
of
the
planets
focus
on
giving
more
Trillium
to
the
miners
and
aiki.
M
I
only
wanted
to
say
it
varies,
it
could
be
five
thousand
ten
thousand
twenty
thousand
thirty
thousand
sevens
will
like
support
a
plan
and
then
scoping
and
then
Milestones
or
there's
a
lot
of
like
people
with
ideas
that
don't
have
the
devs
to
do
it,
and
so,
by
doing
a
plan
it
can
communicate
to
others
who
might
want
to.
You
know,
make
what
they're
doing
work
for
that
or
get
involved
with
that.
You
know
or
designers
that
do
so.
It's
fun
seeing
people
imagine
things
and
seeing
other
people
say
wait.
No.
M
A
Thanks
Lisa
keeps
mentioning
Planet
Ike,
so
that's
one
of
the
six
planets
and
it's
kind
of
led
by
some
like
passionate
Health,
Community
members.
So
there's
a
lot
of
kind
of
community
members
in
there.
Yes,
related
projects
being
funded
from
what
I
understand.
So,
if
you're
from
from
the
EOS
Community
you're
working
on
Antelope
projects,
you
know
then
maybe
check
out
Planet
IQ
see
if
there's
potentially
funding
available
for
you.
M
Absolutely
all
Antelope
are
welcome
on
Ike
and
the
reason
we
picked
Ike
was
because
of
the
E
for
Eos.
So
that's
why
we're
there
and
Dwayne
said
we're
not
going
to
pronounce
it
Ike
we're
going
to
pronounce
it
Ike,
because
that
e
on
the
end
is
for
Eos
too.
M
So
there's
a
lot
of
EOS
woven
into
the
lore
and
and
what's
gotten
us
there
and
we're
a
combination
of
like
people
who
govern
like
the
people
elected,
do
more
of
like
the
the
figuring
out
the
projects
and
what
should
we
find
and
how
are
we
going
to
work
it
out
each
week?
And
then
we
have
some
great
whale
support
from
gnome
and
Michael
Yates
in
various
ways
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
on
the
council.
M
There's
a
group
if
anyone
wants
to
join
a
telegram,
ikey
Council,
there's
17
different
committees
and
there's
five
positions
on
each
committee
and
those
earn
Trillium
every
month
and
they're
re-elected
each
quarter
and
we're
just
starting
that
and
then
through
Ike
Haifa,
the
Haifa
Dao
software.
We're
going
to
have
you
know
dozens
more
categories
and
hundreds
of
opportunities
to
earn
Trillium
so
and
I
hear
it's
possible.
I,
hear
rumors
that
eventually
they're
going
to
release
more
we're
only
getting
two
percent
of
what
where's
the
planet
is
supposed
to
get
to
give
out.
M
So
it'll
be
50x.
It's
when
it's,
you
know
fully
released,
but
they
wanted
to
test
it.
So
I
think
like
we
give
away
around
I
guess:
US
Dollars
around
two
thousand
dollars
a
week
on
Ike
and
US
dollar
equivalent,
and
obviously
that
would
vary
based
on
the
number
of
tokens
that
we
get.
M
It
varies
based
on
various
things
and
also
based
on
you
know
the
price,
if
you're
off
ramping
but
I,
hear
someday
they're
going
to
release
more
than
two
percent,
and
so
we'll
have
even
more
so
we're
trying
to
get
all
the
projects
that
want
to
grow
in
the
future.
You
know
planned
and
scoped,
and
you
know
they're,
not
all
technical,
really,
there's
website
stuff
and
there's
games
and
beta
test
rewards
for
games.
That's
super
popular
being
a
game
token.
People
are
like
Oh,
no
I
got
my
game.
M
Just
can
we
have
some
Trillium
to
give
away
it's
like
yeah,
perfect,
put
it
in
a
fund
or
set
up
a
community
wallet
and
put
it
there
to
support
that
Community
whatever
you
all
decide
what
to
do
with
it.
So
you
know
any
once
we
have
the
IVC
Trillium
it'll
be
easy
to
send
to
other
wallets
as
well.
But
the
you
know
the
the
either
of
the
wax
wallets
anchor
would
be
great
anchors,
currently
the
most
commonly
used
for
the
metaverse
easiest
to
get
set
up.
So
let
us
know.
A
M
Can
you
imagine,
though,
staphon
in
the
future,
if
it's
more
and
or
it
has
a
different
value
like
it,
could
get
very
crazy
right,
so
all
of
the
people
who
have
thought
about
the
kinds
of
things
that
we're
doing
we
want
around
so
that
we
have
people
to
think
through
these.
You
know
these
thought,
like
I
I,
always
say
to
Dwayne,
like
I,
come
to
Crown
with
the
moral
dilemmas
like
how
do
we
handle
Bots?
How
do
we
do
this?
How
do
we
do
that,
and
over
the
years
it's
been
really
helpful?
M
A
A
All
right,
thanks
Lisa,
for
joining
us
on
the
Fireside
this
week
and
come
back
when
IBC
tlm
is
live
or
whenever
you've
got
other
exciting
updates
to
share.
F
M
N
Hey
Stefan
I'd
like
to
share
a
bit
about
alien
worlds
too
and
share
some
of
my
experience
with
Lisa
is
that
cool?
This
is
Dan
thingjoy
by
the
way
hey.
N
That
sounds
great
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
hosting
the
Fireside
as
well,
and
a
very
inspiring
call
so
and
yeah
I
wanted
to
provide
a
bit
more
about
my
experience
with
Lisa
and
also
stuff
I've
been
doing
with
alien
worlds
too.
So,
first
off
I
just
want
to
give
a
huge
shout
out
to
Lisa
Lisa
anyone
who
doesn't
know
Lisa
or
it
just
isn't.
You
know
very
familiar
with
her
she's,
like
amazing
she's,
doing
a
huge
amount
of
work.
N
N
So
for
one
thing,
Lisa
started
talking
about
talking
about
EO,
ship
and
Lisa
and
I
co-host,
a
weekly
meeting
called
EO
ship,
every
Thursday
at
15,
UTC
and
there's
also
a
telegram
group,
P
dot
me
slash
EO
ship,
where
people
can
learn
more
about
that,
and
that's
where
we
talk
about
a
lot
about
collaborations
between
EOS
and
alien
worlds
and
all
sorts
of
other
things.
N
It's
also
right
before
the
crown
deck
call
which
Dwayne
hosts
he's
hosted
it
for
the
past,
like
four
or
five
years
now,
it's
one
of
the
longest
running
dacs
in
the
Antelope
Community
and
they're,
actually,
one
of
the
first
ones
to
use
the
EU
stack
software,
which
is
what
the
alien
World
game
is
based
upon.
So
Dwayne's.
Also
another
amazing
find
you
and
there's
such
a
awesome
community
in
alien
world,
so
I
started
joining.
N
You
know,
I've
been
following
a
Community
member
of
EO
since
background
when
it
started
in
2018
and
then
I
heard
about
alien
worlds
here
and
there
for
I
guess
since
it
launched
a
couple
years
ago,
but
I
really
got
involved
with
it
about
I
guess
a
year
ago
and
nine
months
ago,
when
Dwayne
was
hosting
the
alien
worlds
track
bill
I
think
I
see
Dwayne
on
the
call.
So
thanks
so
much
Dwayne
for
everything.
N
You're
doing
it
was
great,
seeing
you
today
as
well
as
always
and
so
yeah
ever
since
then
I
got
super
into
it
really
started
to
join.
N
Those
and
Dwayne
showed
me
some
of
how
the
game
works,
and
we
made
a
couple
like
intro
to
alien
worlds,
gameplay,
videos
together
and
stuff
like
that,
and
then
Dwayne
actually
invited
me
to
do
an
interview
with
Lisa
one
time
and
that
was
I
met
her
for
the
first
time
and
then
and
now
we
all
work
really
closely
together
at
the
EOS
chip
and
Crown
calls
every
Thursday
and
then
also
the
Eden
practicals.
A
lot
of
the
people
at
the
Eaton
Factory
meetings
are
elderly,
World,
community
members
as
well.
So
it's
a
frequent
topic.
N
We've
had
three
meetings
where
we've
been
specifically
focus
on
discussing
alien
worlds,
since
we
have
a
few
different
kinds
of
collaborations
and
and
like
really
nice
working,
always
working
and
playing
together
with
eating
practical
alien
worlds.
So
we
publish
a
few
videos
and
have
a
few
discussions
about
eating
practical
and
the
topic.
There
has
mostly
been
about
our
collaborations
with
writing
recommendations
for
alien
world
planets,
so
we've
been
working
with
the
creator
of
the
game.
N
Michael,
who
has
been
who's
been
like
basically
been
foreign,
practical
delegates
and
councils
to
help
elect
leaders
in
the
community
and
I
think
about
a
month
ago.
He
has
about
a
month
ago,
genome
joined
the
Fireside
technom
who's,
the
lead
developer
of
IBC
and
he's
talking
how
this
is
one
of
the
most
exciting
new
applications,
because
it's
being
posted
via
IVC
on
EOS
and
being
sent
to
wax.
N
So
we've
had
several
meetings
talking
about
that
eating
fractal
and
then
also
we
started
up
an
alien
world
tractor
like
a
second
round
appendic,
because
Dwayne
hosted
about
13
weeks
or
so
last
year
as
a
pilot
program,
and
then
vladed
made
another
proposal
to
find
Ikea
and
we
got
some
funny
hosted
and
tadas
and
rosemary
and
Vlad.
We
all
got
funding
to
help
out
with
various
parts
of
this
new
alien
world's
practical.
N
So
we've
also
been
doing
that
for
the
past
eight
weeks
as
well
and
I've
been
seeing
Lisa
there
as
well
as
Dwayne
and
many
other
people
and
and
so
we're
kind
of
like
a
really
close-knit
Community.
We
have
these
several
meetings
between
alien
world
track
people
and
eating
fractal,
and
the
earshipping
crown
calls
where
we're
discussing
these
every
week
several
times
and
also
meeting
with
the
Haifa
team
and
yeah.
It's
been
super
cool,
so
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
bit
more
detail
there.
N
That
Lisa
is
a
hero
and
an
angel,
and
so
is
joining
everybody
and
there's
so
many
amazing
people
in
the
community
and
encourage
people
to
join
I,
think
the
other
planets
are
even
bigger
than
Ike
too,
and
then
there's
also
de
coco,
which
provides
funding
sources
as
well.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
funding
and
then
just
meeting
amazing
innovators,
there's
so
many
cool
games
out
there
and
yeah
I'll
share
some
links
to
some
things.
N
I
mentioned
there
at
an
article
at
edencreage.com,
where
you
can
learn
more
about
the
stuff
that
we've
been
doing
there
and
also
fractalian
world.
There's
a
new
kind
of
initiative
that
we're
starting,
which
I
can
share
about
more
in
the
future.
Oh
and
then
one
thing
I
should
mention
too,
is
that
another
event
that
we
did
last
week
was
the
first
open
mic
night
at
Lisa's,
coffee
shop
on
planet,
so
Eric,
who
is
hosting
the
art
fractal
and
he's
also
an
Eden
fractal,
a
contributor
and
Pioneer.
N
He
also
organized
an
open
mic
night
and
asked
me
to
host
it.
It
was
in
Plano
Ike
in
lease
coffee
shop
in
the
center,
for
governance
is
really
cool.
We
all
have
the
custom,
Zoom
backgrounds
and
stuff
like
that,
I'll
be
releasing
the
video
and
we
played
some
of
the
games
like
we
had
where
people
could
share
music
and
comedy
at
least
a
really
funny
comedy
routine
I
I
shared
a
song,
and
we
had
it
where
we
were
playing
around
with
some
of
the
games.
N
We've
been
playing
at
Eden
practical
that
we
started
with
our
anniversary,
PJ
and
stuff
like
that,
and
we
did
it
there
in
a
open
mic
night
worked
out
really
well,
there
was
like
I
think,
like
15
or
16
people
who
joined
and
yeah.
It
was
really
fun
event.
So
I'm
gonna
be
publishing
on
the
Eden
craze
YouTube
channel.
N
Coming
soon
and
I'll
post
some
links
to
the
blog
article
that
I
think
Lisa
wrote
if
you
want
to
learn
more
about
the
open
mic
night,
as
well
as
the
telegram
groups
for
eosip
and
blacktailing
world.
Since
people
check
out
the
plan,
a
key
telegram
group
in
the
Ikea
Community
Council
too
lots
of
exciting
stuff
going
on
there
and
then
I
encourage
anybody
or
encourage
everybody.
N
If
you
want
to
learn
more
and
come
say,
hi,
the
alien
world
Factor
meeting
every
Monday
at
the
community,
UTC
Thursday
continue
to
see
is
the
ear
ship
and
Crown
call,
and
even
practical
15
30
see
you
every
Wednesday
and
we'll
be
happy
to
see
you
there
and
talk
more
about
awesome
stuff
going
on
in
the
metaverse.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
then.
That's
that's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
a
lot
of
updates,
given
I
like
it.
Thanks
for
sharing
everything
and
yeah
good
luck
with
all
your
projects.
F
A
There
are
some
comments
here
going
on
in
the
chat
about
EOS
Labs
Corvin,
mentioning
that
he'd
like
to
see
more
focus
on
gaming
and
research
and
invention.
A
Aaron
Cox
got
in
there
as
well
saying
that
he
feels
like
y'all
slap
so
far
is
more
gonna
be
focused
on
applications
rather
than
Technologies
and
more
on
evm
than
native,
but
you
know
we're
waiting
for
more
answers.
Information
on
that.
A
A
A
B
It
would
be
nice
to
know
what
what
the
plan
is.
The
enf's
point
of
view
about
answering
our
questions
and
really
making
themselves
available
to
to
all
of
that.
A
B
A
I
also
think
it's
reasonable
to
expect
that
they
will
be
available.
I
mean
this
news
is
like
24
hours
old
at
this
point,
so
I
think
it's
also
fair
to
kind
of
just
wait.
A
bit
like
the
community
gather
their
thoughts
share
their
comments
and
I'm
sure
all
of
these
things
will
be
addressed
soon
enough.
E
Perry
I
know
you
asked
a
question
at
the
beginning
of
the
call
and
I
didn't
I,
don't
quite
remember
what
it
was
and
I
know
at
the
time.
I
didn't
know
how
to
answer
it,
but
if
you
could
put
the
question
in
the
chat
or
whatever
anyone,
if
y'all
could
put
your
questions
in
the
chat
and
be
very
helpful
for
us,
because
you
know
we're
working
on
the
FAQ
and
other
resources
to
help
describe
labs
and
get
that
information
out
there.
E
But
it's
helpful
to
know
what
people
want
to
know
about
it
so
easier
than
having
to
transcribe
it
from
what
you
say
is
if
you
type
it
in
the
chat.
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
will
be
around
today
to
to
answer
those
questions
but
happy
to
go
through
them.
A
Yeah
and
for
anyone
listening
to
the
replay,
you
can
just
come
into
the
voice,
chat
and
type
your
questions
at
any
time.
This
voice
chat
is
open
outside
of
Fireside
hours.
You
know
always
just
get
in
there
and
share
your
questions
in
the
chat
and
then
Brandon
can
be
able
to
make
sure
to
note
them
and
compile
them
for
the
laq
that
they're
working
on.
L
In
Brandon,
that's
really:
oh,
let's
collecting
feedback
a
lot
of
what
would
have
I
guess,
I,
don't
see
Eve
here,
I
think
he
had
another
call.
Anything
that
would
have
been
discussed
today
would
probably
already
been
on
the
Twitter
yesterday.
So
I
made
it
your
inscription
of
it
for
internal
use.
I
could
probably
share
that
externally.
L
I
just
got
to
make
sure
it's
not
editable,
so
it
doesn't
mess
it
up
for
our
internal
uses,
but
I
just
suggest
everyone
catch
up
on
the
Twitter
space
is
because
a
lot
of
information
is
shared
and
it
was
shared
before
we
even
had
like
comes
more
strategic
comes
ready
on
it.
L
It
was
literally
Alpha.
Everyone
was
getting
the
information
in
real
time,
so
right
now
we're
just
kind
of
collecting
feedback
and
we've
been
collecting
feedback.
The
first
mention
of
EOS
Labs
was
two
or
three
weeks
ago
after
the
last
BP
call,
and
everyone
was
generally
in
support
of
it
and
didn't
have
a
whole
lot
of
questions.
So
really,
that's
I
think
the
status
and
we're
trying
to
get
a
post
out,
ASAP
and
Brandon's,
hoping
to
spearhead
that
that's
why
he
jumped
in
so
thanks
Brandon
mm-hmm.
E
Well,
what
what
what
do.
L
I
say
well,
there's
another
one
and
there's
another
VP
cone,
two
weeks,
yeah
and
yeah.
As
far
as
the
BP
call
I
was
listening
through
the
translator,
so
for
since
a
lot
of
people
on
here,
probably
weren't
on
that
call,
it
was
the
first
time
that
someone
presented
natively
in
Chinese
and
then
everyone
who
spoke
English
had
to
listen
through
the
translator.
L
Typically,
the
translators
translate
like
Eve's
words
or
my
words
or
someone
else's
words
and
then
in
the
Chinese
and
then
Chinese
questions
come
out
during
those
calls
the
China
the
questions
coming
from
the
Chinese
block
producers
are
asked
in
English
which,
if
it's
a
question,
it's
not
as
difficult
of
a
translation
but
I
I
could
see
why
someone
who
speaks
English
and
was
listening
through
the
translator
it
I
I
felt
like
it
was
hard
to
follow
myself.
I
heard
a
lot
of
D5
buzzwords,
but
generally
I
have
a
little
bit
more
information.
L
There
was
several
hours
of
calls,
I
wasn't
necessarily
part
of,
but
I
was
kind
of
getting
debrief
throughout
the
whole
process,
and
hopefully
more
will
be
like,
like
I,
said
Brandon's
talking
to
Watchung
right
now,
who
will
be
leading
EOS
Labs,
we'll
share
more
information
about
Watchung,
so
a
lot
of
people
in
the
west
might
not
be
as
familiar
with
him
he's
all
his
English
name
is
Winston
he's
been
an
enf
board
member.
He
launched
the
kylen
test
net
when
he
has
mainnet
launched.
L
He
was
the
CTO
of
huobi
pool
for
several
years
very
qualified
and
he's
going
to
be
the
the
CEO
of
EOS
Labs
Eve
will
not
be
part
of
a
board
or
he
will
not
be
have
any
association
with
it.
So
that'll
be
I,
guess
different
than
the
other
entity
that
was
kind
of
formed
was
the
EOS
Network
Ventures.
So
these
Network
Ventures,
the
enf,
is
not
part
of
EOS
Network
Ventures,
but
Eve
as
an
individual
is
on
that
board.
L
So
he
has
an
individual
as
part
of
both,
but
the
enf
is
not
affiliated
with
U.S
Network
Ventures,
whereas
EOS
Labs
will
be
completely
separate
from
both
enf
and
Eve
as
an
individual.
So
it
will
be
completely
independent
entity
completely.
Independent
leadership
Watchung
is
on
the
EnV
board.
So
if
you
look
at
the
multi-sig
for
EnV
he's,
you
can
see
which
one
he
is
I
think
it
has
Winston
in
the
account
name.
So
he's
definitely
been
around.
L
Definitely
really
well
known
on
the
East
Eastern
side
of
things
and
definitely
has
a
very
particular
D5
Vision.
So
like
anyone
that
was
on
the
beach
she
called
listening
to
the
English
translation.
You
definitely
heard
all
of
the
D5
words
being
thrown
about,
and
it
seems
like
the
the
blog
articles
that
what's
his
name
like
shoot.
What's
the
guy's
name,
that
was
posting
the
the
defy
super
app
articles,
I
can't
think
of
it.
Oh.
L
Everyone
everyone
who
kind
of
thought
that
was
a
good
idea.
That's
not
like
exactly
what
this
is.
This
has
not.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
those
articles,
but
it
it's
similar
in
the
sense
it'll
be
like
highly
laser,
focused
with
with
like,
like
the
goals
of
in
increasing,
like
the
value
of
the
EOS
Network
and
the
utility
of
the
EOS
Network,
and
the
the
application
layer
of
the
EOS,
Network
and
D5
is
very
much
going
to
be
a
part
of
that.
L
Just
very
targeted
and
not
just
defy
I
think
this
is
something
Brandon
and
I
were
talking
about.
Today
is
like
we're
going
to
try
to
get
as
much
information
as
we
can
out
of
Watchung
and
the
his
incoming
staff,
essentially
to
help
coordinate
the
communications
with
the
English-speaking
part
of
the
world,
because
we're
definitely
gonna
the
enf
will
be
involved
as
as
far
as
closing
that
Gap,
because,
as
EOS
Labs
has
stood
up,
it
doesn't
have
a
Communications
arm.
L
For
example,
it's
solely
focused
on
Business
Development
and
the
application
layer,
r
d,
but
we're
still
like
I,
said
collecting.
All
of
this
information
did
I
I,
guess
on
on
my
end,
I
just
didn't
have
everything
prepared
for
it
to
come
out
yesterday,
but
I
think
it's
good
that
we're
talking
about
it.
I
think
if
you
have
questions,
ask
them
in
text
formats
the
best
way,
because
that
way
we
could
log
them
all
and
work
on
putting
this
FAQ
together.
L
So
I'd
expect
a
similar
post
to
let's
see
I,
don't
know
I
I
can't
it
will
have
as
much
information
as
you
can
with
an
FAQ,
it's
still
literally
being
drafted
as
we
speak
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
bring
wah
Chung
on
some
kind
of
platform,
whether
whether
it's
I
thought
it
would
be
a
Fireside
because
he's
in
Singapore
so
he's
12
hours
ahead,
but
potentially
some
other
way
to
do
it.
L
One
idea
that
I
had
was
we
do
use
this
interpretation
software
for
the
BP
calls
where
there's
live
interpreters.
So,
if
you
think
of
it
like
almost
like
the
United
Nations
like
while
someone's
speaking
in
one
language,
people
in
the
audience
are
listening
in
another
language
and
the
translators
are
literally
like
listening
and
speaking.
At
the
same
time,
perhaps
we'll
be
able
to
facilitate
a
call
at
some
point-
that's
open
to
all
of
the
different
languaged
communities
all
at
once,
and
maybe
we
could
address
some
of
the
questions
as
a
group.
B
Zach
you
Justin
is
in
Singapore.
Does
that
mean
the
jurisdiction
for
Eos?
Labs
is
Singapore,
and
if
so,
you
say
what
type
of
organization,
what
time
I'm.
L
Not
sure
of
that
I'm
not
involved
at
that
high
of
a
level
it
I
think
Singapore
is
a
good
spot.
I
think
it's
definitely
very
high
on
the
list
of
incorporation
jurisdictions.
I
I,
just
I'm,
not
part
of
those
conversations.
I
don't
have
the
answer
for
you,
but
I
I
would
think
unless
I
can
give
you
as
a
maybe
a
probably
but
I
really
don't
know
right
now,.
L
Yes,
that
is
a
good
question
to
ask:
I
mean
yeah
I'm
not
involved
with
setting
up
businesses,
whether
it's
the
enf
or
any
other
business.
That's
not!
Typically,
what
I
do
or
think
about.
L
It
like
Winston
will
be
likely
the
like.
If
he's
the
one
running
the
company,
he
would
likely
be
the
whatever
the
head
of
a
company
is
called
in
whatever
jurisdiction
it
is
made
similar
being
like
I,
don't
know
if
I'd
have
a
board
or
a
chairman,
but
whoever
the
signing
party
is
I
would
assume
it'd,
be
him.
E
May
be
no
equity
to
own,
depending
on
how
it's
structured
like
trying
to
think
of
another
example.
I
believe
Brandon.
B
G
You
won't
get
an
answer
to
that.
Perry
sorry,
I
mean
good
question.
We
were
asking
questions
e
and
B.
We
asked
the
same
question
and
we
weren't
giving
an
answer,
and
that
was
far
more
directed
to
the
network
itself
and
the
token
holders
that
should
be
expected
to
get
an
answer.
So
since
this
is
a
separate
entity
altogether,
you
won't
get
an
answer.
C
E
Yeah
and
I
believe
there
was
more
clarity
around
the
E
and
V
with
respect
to
the
the
legal
structure
of
that
and
where
it's
based
and
all
that
and
yeah
I
can't
really
speak
to
all
the
details
there
because
I
don't
have
them
loaded
in
my
brain,
but
some
of
that
information
is
available
online
yeah
we'll
get
more
information
for
you
about
instructions.
F
L
The
the
what
was
discussed
yesterday
on
the
Twitter
spaces
is
that
the
the
plan
will
be
for
this
entity
to
approach
the
block
producers
with
a
proposal
for
funding
in
that
proposal.
I'm
sure
that
the
block
producers
will
require
certain
information
to
ever
sign
off
on
something
like
this.
So
it's
probably
a
couple
of
months
away
until
a
proposal
is
put
on
chain
or
even
orders,
a
lot
more
information
like
I'm,
still
gathering
information
myself,
I
I,
wouldn't
say
that
I,
even
Eve,
probably
doesn't
have
all
of
the
answers.
L
If
he
was
still
on
here,
it's
very
similar
to
when
the
enf
launched
I
mean
we
didn't
have
all
of
the
answers
right
away.
Eos
Labs
was
just
an
idea
for
the
last
couple
of
months.
It
got
more
serious
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
based
on
feedback
from
different
stakeholders
that
something
like
this
was
needed,
and
now
it's
getting
more
serious,
but
it's
not
like
doesn't
exist.
Yet
it's
it's
in
the
process
of
existing
and
I
believe
and
they
haven't
been
funded
at
all
like
they
haven't
received.
L
Any
funding
from
even
enf
Watchung
has
been
working
on
a
volunteer
basis,
basically
for
the
last
two
years
as
a
board
member
and
a
grant
evaluator
and
advisor
and
doing
all
the
due
diligence
with
the
EnV.
B
E
The
benefactor
is
intended
to
be
the
network,
I
mean
the
goal,
isn't
to
the
the
goal
isn't
to
just
pour
money
into
some
org
for
someone
to
get
rich.
The
goal
is
to
help
incubate
and
develop
and
do
research
four
projects
to
launch
on
EOS,
like
I,
don't
think
there
should.
F
E
There
this
the
legal
structure,
the
legal
structure
that
will
allow
for
that
and
for
it
to
still
be
you
know,
responsible
to
the
network.
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
it's
you
know
perhaps
similar
to
the
way
EnV
is
structured
in
that
it's
legally
obligated
to
you
know,
behave
in
a
way
in
a
manner.
That's
consistent
with
you
know,
returning
value
back
to
the
network,
but
again
like.
B
E
B
Don't
know
about
written
but
I
know
what
I
heard
on
on
Twitter
spaces
yesterday,
multiple
times
from
Eaves.
E
Are
you
inferring
some
some
things
or.
B
E
L
Like
on,
like
government
document
like
for
like
the
business
applications,
who's
on
the
bank
accounts.
L
Daily,
the
EOS
token
holders
like
that
is
the
goal.
It's
no
similar
to
look
at
other
ecosystems
like
there's,
avax
Labs,
like
Avalanche,
doesn't
even
have
a
foundation.
They
have
avax
Labs
I,
don't
know
who
owns
avax
labs,
algorand
Foundation,
who
owns
that
who
or
and
who
owns
their
algrand
Ventures
now
Grand
Labs,
I
I,
don't
know
the
answers.
L
Yeah,
these
are
questions
for
the
new
org,
also
and
I,
and
not
to.
L
H
B
P
I
would
I
would
definitely
expect
that
any
profits
from
Investments
would
go
back
into
the
same
kind
of
pool
and
then
would
be
reinvested
into
the
next
project.
Anything
else
would
be
ridiculous.
I
mean
that
that
sure
this
kind
of
entity
would
have
expenses
to
add
can't
be
that
that
inflation
funds
kind
of
private
profit.
E
I
mean
yeah
well
and
again
as
far
as
I
understand
again,
this
is
just
based
on
what
I
know
so
far.
You
know
the
the
EOS
Labs
isn't
an
investment
making
body.
That's
for
the
EnV
to
do
so.
There's
a
connection
there
where
Ian
EOS
Labs
can
can
vet
projects
and
prepare
projects,
and
you
know,
help
cultivate
projects
but
ultimately
for
funding.
For,
for,
like
big
investment
stuff,
that's
got
to
come
to
the
EnV
as
far
as
I
know,
so
I
don't
think
it's
the
case
that
the
labs
are
making
direct
Investments.
E
L
How
I've
kind
of
interpreted,
also
that's
the
R
D
part,
and
that
was
talked
about
on
the
Twitter
spaces,
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
discussed
was
like
with
the
EnV.
The
fund
amount
is
relatively
small.
It's
denominated
in
EOS
and
with
any
traditional
fund
they
typically
operate
on
I.
Think
it's
called
a
carry.
A
two
percent
carry
is
I,
think
the
standard
number
I'm,
not
it's
not
my
realm,
but
a
two
percent
carry
on
low
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
isn't
enough
to
really
facilitates
like
top
level
r
d.
L
So
a
lot
of
the
r
d
would
be
happening
at
the
labs
level
and
Labs
will
have
a
tight
connection
with
the
EnV
Watchung
is
involved
both
just
like
Eve
is
involved
with
both,
but
so
so
there
will
be
that
that
kind
of
two-way
communication
and
there's
also
I
guess
on
the
topic
of
EnV,
because
I
saw
someone
asked
about
it.
L
The
other
day
is
there
still
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
there's
four
or
five
different
tickets
that
we're
just
kind
of
waiting
for
things
to
get
finalized,
to
be
able
to
announce
and
they'll
likely
be
announced
by
the
receiving
parties
and
Amplified
by
us,
but
there's
still
things
moving
there.
There's
it's
just
kind
of
as
far
as
I
understand
that
just
kind
of
paperwork,
type
stuff.
B
L
Not
sure
it
wasn't
for
it
wasn't
formally
announced
you
got
Alpha
like
what
you
got
is
Alpha
like
everyone
wants
to
be
involved
in
all
of
the
like
decision
making
and
know
what's
going
on
at
any
given
time,
but
it's
like
okay,
you
got
Alpha
gas
today.
There
wasn't
all
the
all
the
questions
weren't
answered
yet.
Would
you
have
preferred
that
or
would
you
have
preferred
something?
L
Two
months
from
now
that
was
a
little
bit
more
tightened
up,
because
that
was
kind
of
the
mode
I
was
operating
on
there
is
I,
have
a
there
would
have
been
more
time,
but
instead
you
got
you
got
Insight,
while
the
sausage
is
still
being
made.
So
would
you
rather
like.
B
E
E
This
has
introduced
some
interesting
elements,
so
we're
we're
working-
and
you
know
the
questions
here-
can
really
help
inform
what
we,
what
we
ask
and
how
we,
you
know,
think
of
us
as
like
servants
working
for
you
to
get
answers
now.
So,
rather
than
seeking
answers
from
us
we're
people
that
can
help
get
answers
from
from
labs
and
when,
when
they
go
and
present
again
on
the
BP,
the
next
BP
call
like
we'll,
be
there
again
able
to
report.
E
E
They're
they're
just
for
the
top
30
BPS.
Currently
that
may
change
in
the
future,
it's
hard
to
say
but
yeah.
Currently
it's
them,
and
then
we
produce
a
written
report
based
on
that
based
on
those
proceedings
and
any
of
the
BPS
in
those
calls
are
free
to
share
whatever
was
discussed
with
their
own
communities.
L
But,
like
sometimes
like,
like
the
alpha
that
came
out
on
the
Twitter
space
is
sometimes
something
might
slip
that
shouldn't
have
that
could,
like
I,
don't
know,
break
an
NDA
or
something
I,
I
I
think
there
might
have
been
a
legal
update
at
one
point
like
that.
That
wasn't
in
the
meeting
notes
the
next
day
prior
to
some
public
Communications
coming
out,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
heads
up.
L
But
aside
from
like
a
few
instances
like
that,
everything
is
made
public
through
the
notes
and
also
the
BPS
are
all
given
permission
to
kind
of
share.
What
they'd,
like
also.
B
He
noted
that
EOS
42
his
his
BP
31st
on
the
list
and
they
weren't
able
to
attend
the
meeting,
and
we
all
know
that
shintai
is
an
important
part
of
our
of
our
community.
E
Let's
see
where
are
they
at
today,
31
yeah
you're
right
right,
there
yeah
and
he
has
a
30,
is
32
and
player
is
33.
Detroit
36
Aloha
is
37,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
could
be
on
that
call.
I,
don't
know
exactly
that.
How
we
ended
up
with
30,
but
I
know
we
had
to
cut
it
off
somewhere
and
just
for
the
sake.
L
It's
kind
of
like,
like
we
were
talking
about
this
the
other
day.
It's
like
it's
really
kind
of
like
a
board
meeting
like
if
you
think
about
the
EOS.
As
a
dow,
like
there's
21
board
seats,
the
top
21
I'll
have
signing
Authority
as
part
of
the
EOS
Dao
board.
They
are
the
elected
Guardians
and
then
extending
it
to
30
was
just
kind
of
they're,
the
ones
most
likely
to
rotate
into
the
top
21.
L
and
after
a
certain
point,
the
the
votes
are
just
so
far
off
that,
like
you,
gotta
put
a
if,
if
you're
going
to
put
a
limit,
you
need
to
have
a
hard
limit,
or
else
you
could
just
keep
breaking
your
own
rules.
It's
like
okay,
well,
they're,
31,
they're
close
to
30..
Let's
let
them
in
oh,
but
then
number
32
only
has
one
million
less
votes
than
31,
let's
bring
them
and
then
two
and
then
eventually
it's
anyone
who's
ever
called
BP
Reg,
which
in
which
case
anyone
could
call
and
register
a
block
producer.
L
E
L
E
Well,
yeah,
but
part
of
it.
Their
plan
rested
on
using
yield
plus,
unfortunately,
and
they're
a
little
late
to
the
party,
so
they're
kind
of
bummed
out
by
that
they'd
written
a
hole,
yeah
they're
still
going
to
launch
an
amm
on
EOS,
but
I
think
they're,
having
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
provide
liquidity
and
yield
plus
was
going
to
be
part
of
that
pump
for
them.
But
this
is
no
more.
B
E
There's
some
benefit
to
EOS
too,
that
I
can't
remember
what
how
Philip
articulated
it
right
now,
but.
L
Alt
coins
on
a
network
are
being
supported
like
like,
with
liquidity
in
price,
like
that's,
like
the
superpower
of
ethereum,
so
there's
that
benefit
like
when
there's
a
a
bunch
of
new
projects
popping
up
that
launch
tokens.
L
It's
exciting,
because
there's
speculation,
there's
looking
forward
to
like
what
they're
going
to
build
like
there's,
always
excitement
when
there's
new
projects
and
new
tokens
launching
whether
they're,
it's
a
meme
token,
a
meme
token
craze
or
a
defy
token
craze.
Whenever
there's
a
new
fad
that
comes
up
where
there's
a
new
kind
of
group
or
category
of
tokens.
L
Launching
it's
exciting,
so
I
think
that's
another
thing
that
will
be
beneficial
with
the
way
Labs
will
be
able
to
deploy
Capital
compared
to
what's
been
available
through,
like
the
grant
framework,
one
of
the
limitations
and
there's
a
self-inflicted
limitation,
and
it
was
modeled
after
the
web
3
Foundation,
which
is
the
foundation
behind
polka
dot.
We
followed
a
lot
of
their
guidelines
and
criteria.
L
They
had
one
of
the
most
robust
Grant
Frameworks
and
some
of
the
limitations,
where
your
project
cannot
have
done
a
token
sale
and
you
must
be
open
source
and
those
two
combined,
really
locked
out.
A
lot
of
really
good.
Applicants
like
there
are
a
lot
of
really
good
projects
that
chose
not
to
deploy
because
they
weren't
able
to
access
a
capital
because
they
didn't
meet
the
guidelines
and
criteria.
B
L
B
They
haven't
been
clear
exactly
which
tokens,
but
my
understanding
is
of
their
two.
Their
two
platform
architecture
side
that
would
be
regulated
out
of
British
Virgin
Islands-
would
have
the
ability
to
produce
tokens
that
were
different
than
the
highly
regulated
Singapore
side,
so,
along
with
I,
think
he
said,
29
op
tokens
right,
starting
with
Bitcoin
and
ethereum,
and
so
on
course
EOS
and
would
they
would
also
be
able
to
produce
other
tokens?
B
That's
my
understanding,
but
a
white
paper
is
coming
out
and
yeah.
It's
not
entirely
clear.
Exactly
so
we're
all
we're
all
looking
forward
to
the
white
paper
that
that
Philip
is
about
to
announce
are
about
to
release,
but
obviously
that
that
those
plans
have
changed.
B
Given
the
the
yield
plus
change,
they
have
different
sources
of
return
besides
yield.
Plus
that
was
one
of
a
few
but
yeah
it
was.
It
was
free
money,
so
it's
probably
taking
some
wind
out
of
their
other
plans.
B
I'm
gonna
have
to
restructure
I
think
with
it,
caused
a
little
bit
of
servants
yesterday
in
the
channel
and
I
think
and
I'm,
not
speaking
for
anybody
but
myself,
but
my
impression
was
that
it's
just
frustrating
you
know
they're
not
getting
they're
not
being
communicated
with
building
on
it.
But
yet
you
know
it's
it's
it's
like
they.
L
B
L
B
Well,
it's
not
it's
not
a
matter
of
matter
of
perfect
they've
they've
chosen
a
different
route
and
I
guess
the
and
and
they're
not
they're,
not
building
directly
onto
EOS
until
and
until
this
last
project
that
they
just.
B
Affected
by
yield
plus
so
most
of
it's
on
their
own
private
change,
that's
true,
but
they
are
arguably
the
most
valuable
project
on
the
you
know,
our
ecosystem,
the
one
with
the
most
potential
in
many
people's
minds,
the
the
the
the
token
obviously
doesn't
reflect
anything
at
this
point
for
many
reasons
which
I'm
not
going
to
get
into,
but
the
actual
potential
it's
hard
and
I
I
can't
I
I,
don't
know
of
anything
else
that
has
more
value
value.
B
So,
given
the
fact
that
they
have
the
most
potential
value,
I
I
would
hope
that
they
would
have
a
little
more
voice
and
a
little
more
respect
and
a
little
more
no
I,
don't
know.
That's
that.
Would
that
seemed
like
that
would
be
in
all
of
our
interests.
The
EOS
token
holders
interest
Maybe,
I'm
Wrong.
E
E
I
know:
they've
been
really
heads
down,
building
their
their
their
product,
which
is
amazing,
but
the
you
know
the
invite
has
been
extended
repeatedly
and
for
a
long
time
and
I
know,
communication
still
happens
on
the
sidelines,
but
you
know
it's
just
like
we're.
Also
busy
building
different
things.
It's
hard
to
I,
don't
really
blame
either
side
I
mean
they
weren't,
really
aware
of
the
yield
plus
until
fairly
recently
and
then
they're
like
oh
yeah.
We
could
use
it
for
this
and
we
could
pipe.
E
You
know
pipe
the
yield
into
this
and
like
at
the
same
time
unbeknownst
to
them.
There
was
this.
You
know
other
discussion
happening
about
phasing
that
program
out
to
move
in
this
other
direction,
but
it's
not
like
it's
not
like
EOS,
42
or
or
shintai
were
you
know
already
part
of
the
conversation
they
just
kind
of
came
in
at
the
tail
end.
So
it
was
very
unfortunate
situation.
E
That
regard,
but
you
know
I,
think
there's
still
a
lot
of
synergy
and
potential
between
the
ecosystems.
You
know
between
Shin,
Thai
and
EOS,
but
yeah.
It
remains
to
be
seen
as
far
as
like
the
problems
they're
trying
to
solve
to
bootstrap
liquidity
for
checks
and
all
that
stuff
I'm,
not
really
sure
how
they're
gonna
work
that
out
currently
yeah.
O
And
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
you
know
there
would
be
maybe
like
we've,
we've
worked
elevation
Thai
along
with
other
projects,
but
if
only
maybe
I
think
done.
These
powered
by
use
case
studies
on
six
seven
projects
in
the
ecosystem.
So
far,
we've
got
a
really
big
backlog
and
shintai
is
one
of
those
few
right,
so
they
have
been
a
priority.
Group
of
you
know
poster
child
Integrations
of
things.
O
We
want
to
be
showcasing
to
other
docs
or
potential
projects
that
are
considering
integrating
with
the
new
ecosystem
and
also
you
know
elevating
them
to
the
community
in
that
way.
So
you
know
a
really
big
part
of
the
enf's.
Mandate
is
not
just
Financial
Resources,
but
human
resources
and
other
resources
to
support
dapps
and
I
think
that
we,
you
know,
made
an
effort
to
sports
and
dine
in
that
way
through
are
work
in
the
comps
department,
at
least.
O
Guarantee
they're
on
our
short
list,
for
you
know,
contacts
to
bring
in
when
we
run
D5
related
Twitter
spaces
or
events
in
that
regard
right.
They
they're,
like
I,
say
in
that
sort
of
poster
child
dab
status.
So
we
are
working
to
elevate
them.
E
E
This
is
just
one
particular
scenario
where,
like
ships
passing
in
the
night
on
on
the
yield
plus
thing,
but
I
think
it
was
pretty
hard
to
predict
in
a
lot
of
ways.
So.
L
I
think,
with
with
the
yield
plus
I
mean
it
was
average
I,
think
it
averaged
300
000
Euros
per
quarter
in
distributions,
and
that
was
only
for
20
million
dollars
of
real,
like
hard
tvl
like
EOS
and
usdt.
So
whenever,
like
there's
limited,
Capital,
there's
right
now,
with
this
token
price,
it's
roughly
14
million
dollars
total
at
two
percent.
L
L
But
it
was
just
something
that
I
always
kind
of
had
in
the
back
of
my
mind
was
the
more
successful
this
thing
becomes
the
more
expensive
it
becomes
also
so,
as
far
as
it
was
good
for
stabilizing
tvl,
like
tvl
hard
TBR,
let's
call
it
did
stabilize
around
20
million
dollars,
but
at
the
cost
of
was
it
like
1.2
million
EOS
for
just
the
yield
distributions,
plus
whatever
the
costs
were,
to
build
out
all
the
smart
contracts
right.
The
blue
paper
everything
to
administer
it
everything
that
kind
of
went
into
it.
L
It
was
a
decent
cost
and
that
capital
is
still
going
to
be
deployed
just
more
more
targeted,
so
previously
84,
85
percent
of
all
of
the
yield,
plus
all
of
the
1.2
million
annualized
tokens
being
distributed.
We're
going
to
a
single
entity
so
really
with
yield
plus
winding
down.
It
really
only
affects
like
it
affects
D5
bucks.
A
lot
but
I
think
they'll
still
be
fine.
L
There's
they've
kind
of
communicated
some
other
plan,
but
really
we're
talking
15,
the
other
15
percent,
which
would
be
I,
don't
know
my
math
22
200
000
EOS.
Basically,
it's
about
150
000
dollars
is
all
that's
really.
What
was
there
besides?
L
What
what
D5
box
was
accumulating
because
they
had
multiple
protocols
that
were
all
at
the
Six
Million
EOS
cap,
and
so
it
doesn't
really
affect
that
many
different
parties
I
think
it
was
just
unfortunate
with
shintai
as
far
as
their
timing
like
they
got
on
the
bandwagon
late
and
then
the
other
thing
that
factored
into
all
of
this
was
the
the
multi-chain
situation
so
losing
a
highly
liquid,
stable
coin.
L
That
is
accessible
to
over
90
different
blockchains,
all
of
the
alternative
bridges
that
are
kind
of
being
deployed
to
nerve
Network,
sealer
and
chain
Port.
None
of
those
have
nearly
the
liquidity
that
multi-chain
had
as
far
as
cross
chain
liquidity.
So
now
it's
in
the
best
interest
to
just
kind
of
hold
off
to,
instead
of
deeming
a
new
usdt,
the
the
de
facto
stable
coin
for
evm.
L
It
makes
sense
now
to
wait
until
the
trustless
bridge,
the
next
iteration
of
it's
ready,
which
I
believe
that
it's
targeting
September
I'm,
not
sure
of
an
exact
date,
but
once
you're
able
to
transfer
altcoin
or
usdt
across
from
native
to
evm
it'll,
really
kind
of
help
defy
kind
of
possible
again,
because
right
now,
there's
just
no
good,
stable
coin
right
there.
So
it
kind
of
put
a
put
a
halt
to
things.
One
of
the
things
that
yield
plus
wasn't
able
to
do
that.
L
One
of
the
the
goals
it
set
out
to
do
is
to
create
a
robust,
defy
echo
system.
So
basically
many
different
protocols
launching
rather
than
like
having
one
gigantic
protocol
and
it
never
really
came
to
fruition.
I
think
it
would
have
had
a
better
chance
of
getting
more
protocols
involved
with
the
evm
integration
which
it
was
very
close
to
having,
but
it
still
wouldn't
have
had
the
stable
coin
Bridge
fully
fleshed
out
yet
as
far
as
like
external
stable
coins.
L
But
there
were
a
number
of
things
that
kind
of
factored
into
that.
I
was
definitely
sad
to
hear
about
it
being
wound
down,
but
the
smart
contracts
all
still
exist,
I
think,
if
there's
an
appetite
for
it
in
the
future
and
we're
in
a
different
Market
climate
I
think
it
could
always
come
back.
I
I,
don't
know
in
the
same
form,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
technical
work
that
went
into
it.
L
I
would
like
to
see
it
leveraged
in
some
way,
but
yeah
there
there
was
I,
don't
know
I'm
just
rambling
at
this
point,
but
there's
some
things.
L
Some
things
I'm
really
excited
about,
because
I
think
it'll
be
better
to
deploy
Capital
more
efficiently
and
directly,
but
I
was
also
kind
of
sad
just
because
we
were
working
on
this
evm
integration
for
a
couple
months
now
and
it's
kind
of
near
complete
or
is
complete,
but
it
won't
be
leveraged
in
the
short
term,
at
least
which
isn't
really,
and
the
other
thing
too
is,
even
as
we
were
developing
the
the
rating
to
the
yield
plus
blue
paper,
and
things
like
that.
L
The
yield
plus
blue
paper
was
modeled
off
of
a
lot
of
the
liquidity
incentive
programs
that
were
popular
in
2021.
Looked
at
polygon
Phantom
was
one
of
the
biggest
Inspirations
for
the
liquidity
program.
Bar
None,
like
they
had
by
far
some
of
the
best
success
with
the
liquidity
program
and
part
of
that's
because
Andre
from
yfi
was
basically
the
head
of
D5
for
Phantom,
so
they're
very
successful
with
all
of
their
D5
programs
and
I
think
they
closed
down
their
liquidity
incentive
program.
L
Before
we
even
published
the
blue
paper,
I
have
the
exact
blog
post
somewhere
saved,
but
early
2022,
maybe
like
March
April.
They
actually
shut
down
their
own
liquidity
incentive
program
for
the
exact
same
reason:
more
targeted
investment.
A
E
At
the
moment,
with
the
phasing
out
of
I
mean
season,
seven
pomelo
and
then
I'm
not
sure
oh
I
hope
that
there'll
be
some
other
Avenue
in
the
future,
but
I
think
this.
During
this
transition,
it's
going
to
be
a
little
nebulous,
let's
say
but
I
mean
the
enf
is
functionally
the
public
goods.
You
know
side
of
things
at
this
point.
E
Q
To
improvements
to
code
base,
you
know
things
that
essentially
make
life
easier
for
developers
within
this
ecosystem.
Q
F
N
Q
So
I
I
understand
the
the
the
reasoning
behind
it:
I
I'm,
just
obviously
we
all
know
that
there's
there
are
going
to
be
more,
you
know,
improvements
that
are
gonna
be
needed
in
the
future.
It's
certainly
not
done
so
yeah
for
the
for
the
folks
that
are
working
on
those
projects
and
working
on
those
improvements.
The
to
the
to
the
ecosystem.
Q
You
know
having
some
sort
of
I
understand
that
the
grant
framework
is,
was
you
know
a
an
experiment
of
sorts?
It
was.
It
was
a
project
but
nope
okay
looks
like
Dana
Keith
just
answered
that
directly,
but
but
yeah.
That's
that's
mainly.
My
focus
right
is
I
understand
the
need
for
the
for-profit
projects,
because
for-profit
is
going
to
show
that
we
are.
You
know
that
there
is
a
profit
being
made
here
and
that's
going
to
attract
more
investors
which
keeps
that
cycle
flowing
and
that's
great
but
yeah.
That's
my.
Q
My
main
concern
is
just
you
know:
it's
a
really
good
system
and
it
can
be
better.
So
hopefully
that
will
hopefully
that
that
funding
will
still
continue.
I'm
hopeful.
E
Yeah
outside
of
the
outside
of
the
direct
Grant
framework.
Of
course
the
enf
continues
to
fund
stuff
like
rfps
through
the
antelope
Coalition.
That
are,
you
know.
For
instance,
Wharf
kit
came
out
of
that
so
I
I'd,
imagine
stuff
like
that.
E
Still
gonna
get
funded
and
a
lot
of
the
development
like
to
the
core
code
base
is
going
to
continue
necessarily
and
that's
I
guess
you
could
consider
that
all
public
good
funding,
whether
it's
enf
Engineers
or
whether
it's
an
RFP
to
other
engineers
in
the
space
or
additional
tooling,
that
that
is
determined
we
need
for
people
like
Aaron
and
others
yeah.
Q
No
I
mean
it
makes
I
I
understand
the
logic
behind
it.
I
I'm,
just
yeah,
and
knowing
that
there
are
there
are
still
options
out
there
for
for
other
folks
as
well.
That's
it's
good
to
know
so.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
that
I
didn't
mean
to
start
off,
kick
everything
off
and
I'm
glad
it
didn't
go
as
badly
as
it
could
have,
but
but
no
I
just
figured
I
want
to
get
that
question
asked
out
there
and
and
I
think
that'll
put.
E
Thank
you,
yeah
well,
I,
give
you
think
about
it.
Zach
Creator
reiterated
it
and
I
think
Eve
spoke
to
it
too,
like
the
funding
is
still
here.
It's
kind
of
all
being
re
shuffled
around,
but
the
proposal
currently
as
it
stands
is
for
25
of
the
total.
You
know
emission
token
emissions
that
are
coming
to
the
enf,
like
25
of
that
would
functionally
know
manually
at
first
and
then
later.
E
If
the
block
produces
approve
it
programmatically,
then
to
the
to
Labs,
but
that
75
still
flowing
to
the
enf
is
a
lot
of
room
to
maneuver.
As
far
as
funding
public
good,
you
know
necessary,
necessary
public,
good
infrastructure
for
Eos
and
and
other
coalition
chains
as
well.
So
we've
partnered
with
you
know
like
we
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
do
in
finality
in
IBC,
without
without
a
gilm
and
RX
collaboration,
and
without
all
the
10
years
of
work
that
ux
put
into
the
IBC
software
so
I
think
stuff,
like
that's
all
going
to
continue.
L
So
there's
certain
like
public
goods
like
they're,
not
going
away
like
it's
just
the
the
Avenue
of
which
I
guess
the
the
funds
are
deployed,
is
being
different,
so
there's
probably
yeah
I
guess
the
big
unknown
is
like
there's
certain
public,
certain
public
goods
that
are
still
part
of
just
trying
to
think
of
a
public
like
anchor
for,
like
there's,
there's
certain
public
goods
that
are
still
like
Mission
critical
to
the
network
like
there's.
L
But
the
20,
like
Brandon,
said
that
there's
25
of
funds
that
were
being
deployed
like
every
dollar
that's
ever
come
in
through,
has
been
deployed,
and
now
25
of
that
is
going
to
another
entity
which
will
still
be
deploying
that
Capital
they're
just
going
to
be
deploying
it
a
different
way.
So,
obviously,
with
25,
less
funds
being
distributed
by
by
the
the
enf
like
it
will
affect
the
amount
of
capital
that
the
enf
is
able
to
deploy
towards
public
goods.
But
all
of
the
the
essential
ones
will
continue
like
there's.
L
Other
means
like
through
like
direct
contracts
like
the
height
I,
wouldn't
necessarily
consider
Haifa
dial
public
good
because
they
are
a
for-profit
company
and
things
like
that,
but
like
that
happened
outside
of
the
grant
framework,
for
example,
and
then
there's
other
examples
like
the
the
contracts
with
like
EO
support
and
other
entities.
O
I
think
it's
also
worth
noting
that
you
know
the
enf
right
now
without
like
a
proper
Labs
function
on
the
network,
or
you
know
something
that
can
serve
as
a
BD
role
that
the
enf
employees
filled
a
lot
of
that
responsibility.
If
that's
something
you've
talked
about
briefly.
Yesterday
too,
is
you
know
with
this
change?
The
it's?
It's
not
just
redirecting
you
know
or
reallocating.
O
The
funding,
like
the
exactly
the
funding,
is
still
hitting
the
ecosystem,
but
there
are
more
resources
now
opened
up
internally
within
the
enf
and
also
expenses
or
such
as
the
expenses
related
to
the
administrative
overhead
with
running
a
panel
around
that
are
now
not
being
spent
right.
So
that
opens
up
more
resources
in
other
areas,
especially
internally,
within
the
enf,
to
focus
on
its
mandate,
which
isn't
necessarily
BD,
but
more
so
actually
supporting
public
goods,
and
you
know
open
Source
developments
in
the
ecosystem.
L
Yeah,
the
other,
the
other
big
win
is
just
the
evaluators
of
the
grant
program.
In
general,
the
direct
Grant,
like
all
of
the
evaluators,
were
like
our
best
Engineers,
so
for
every
every
hour,
they're
spending
reviewing
Milestones
or
Grant
applications.
That
means
they're
not
developing
like
core
code
and
things
that
are
making
the
network
better.
So
I'm,
definitely
looking
forward
to
people
like
our
egg
having
an
extra
like
five
to
ten
hours,
hopefully
not
10
hours,
but
like
an
extra
five
hours
a
week.
L
That's
not
kind
of
going
through
stuff
and,
like
there's,
been
certain
grants
that
have
been
delayed
like
we.
We
have
limited
resources
as
far
as
human
resources
to
process
things
so
because
we
put
these
nice
rails
in
place
to
kind
of
have
the
processes
and
the
accountability
by
making
things
Milestone
driven.
So
we
have
to
review
every
single
Milestone.
We
need
to
review
it
so
that
we
could
pay
it
out.
The
reviewers
are
all
of
our
Engineers,
the
best
Engineers
we
have
that
are
typically
the
protocol
Engineers.
L
One
of
the
reasons
that
like
and
it's
separate
from
the
grant
framework,
but
one
of
the
reasons
instant
finality
is
just
now
kind
of
wrapping
up-
is
because
there's
like
a
multi-month
delay
on
a
code
review
for
it,
because
there's
literally
one
person
on
the
entire
enf
who's
able
to
review,
maybe
two
but
there's
there's
one
in
particular
who's.
The
only
person
that
could
review
it
and
his
time
is
the
most
valuable
on
the
enfs.
L
E
And
all
the
core
engineers
get
freed
up
to
work
on
yes,
EOS
and
yeah,
and
and
the
the
reviews
aren't
simple.
They
were
you
know,
code
reviews
from
for
the
Milestones,
which,
which
would
often
then
be
like
turn
into
requests
for
changes
which
would
then
have
to
be
reviewed
again
after
the
changes
were
made.
So
it
was
like
quite
a
quite
a
big
process.
L
E
L
Information
forthcoming,
we
don't
have
all
the
answers.
I,
don't
think
Watchung
has
all
the
answers.
I,
don't
think
he
has
all
the
answers,
but
we're
most
certainly
willing
to
take
everyone's
questions
and
try
to
answer
them.
The
best
we
can
so
like
Brandon,
said
a
few
times.
L
Just
drop
your
questions
and
telegram
Discord
tag
us
like.
Even
if
we
don't
respond
right
away,
don't
tag
it
tag
it.
L
You
Shannon,
keep
tagging
again,
I,
think
your
questions
are
being
logged
and
the
let's
we'll
answer
as
many
of
them
as
we
can
in
the
the
the
blog
post,
we're
working
on
and
some
of
the
questions
we
won't
be
able
to
answer
just
because
these
are
questions
that
should
probably
go
to
EOS
labs,
for
example,
and
there's
I'm
sure
that
they're
going
to
be
be
grilled
on
a
lot
of
these
questions,
especially
on
the
BP
calls
and,
and
any
calls
that
happen
outside
of
that.
So
but
we'll
do
the
best
we
can.
B
I'm
sure
you
don't
need
any
more
urgency,
but
it
just
seems
like
the
Community
with
without
knowing
where
you're
going
with
this
seems
like
a
giant
stall
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
are
just
wondering
like
did
I
do
this?
Should
I
do
that
I,
don't
know,
we
don't
know.
L
L
Think
I
said
that
twice
like
we're
getting
all
of
this
pressured
and
it's
like
literally
the
thing
holding
it
back
is
human
resources
and
then
the
most
valuable
human
resources
which
are
the
core
protocol
Engineers,
which
there
are
not
that
many
of
so
like
continuing
things
as
they
were
like
it
wasn't
necessarily
ideal
like
working
conditions
for
those
involved
with
like
administrating
the
program.
B
I'm
not
sure
what
that
means
to
be
honest
like,
but
all
I'm
saying
is
that
just
as
somebody
who's
not
on
the
inside
of
that,
but
he
is
trying
to
to
contribute
to
the
community
to
building
in
the
community.
I
know
that
the
next
set
of
meetings,
which
are
tomorrow
and
the
next
day
and
forever
Beyond
we're
all
going
to
be
looking
around
asking
ourselves.
What
is
the
environment
that
we're
operating
in
and
so
the
sooner
the
better
really
for
I
think
for
the
whole
community.
B
E
Yeah
and
I
think
I
think
a
lot
of
those
details
will
get
filled
in,
but
I
also
want
to
just
remind
everybody
that
there's
a
number
of
like
incredible
things
that
we
have
now,
regardless
of
any
of
these
changes
that
are
available
and
people
can
still
build
on
the
network
and
still
you
know,
rally
and
still
do
cool
games
and
stuff
that
they
want
to
build
on
I
mean
we
got
web
IDE
coming
online,
that's
going
to
be
really
exciting
for
smart
contract
developers.
E
You
know
IBC,
obviously,
is
is
just
getting
tapped
into
the
other
big
one.
I'm
a
wharf
kit,
obviously
just
released
session
kit
and
I
believe
contract
kit
is
next
I.
Think
someone
jump
in
there
if
I'm
mistaken,
and
so
all
these
tools
that
allow
folks
to
build
on
on
EOS
are
are
now
available.
For
the
first
time
I
mean
like
we
never
had
a
web
IDE
before
I
mean
I.
E
E
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
from
the
community
is
is
just
to
like
focus
on
the
stuff
we
do
know
and
we
do
have,
and
that
is
you
know
up
and
running
right
now,
while
we
go
through
this
transitional
period
and
and
help
us
help
us
keep
the
momentum
going,
because
it's
kind
of
just
a
necessary
restructuring
at
this
point
and
yeah
I
see
it
is
it's
going
to
be
a
net
positive
in
the
end,
but.
E
B
Yeah,
obviously
we're
all
very
volatile
a
volatile
environment,
I
guess
more
specifically
just
directly
if
you're,
if
you're,
building
governance
on
EOS
right
now,
we're
not
exactly
sure
you
know
and
and
if
you're
thinking
about
a
public
good
on
governance
or
if
you're
thinking
about
an
incubator
that
produces
public
goods
or
produces
Dows
like
we're
like
exactly
what's
being
considered
right
now
in
Eden
on
EOS
as
a
as
a
new
Direction,
and
you
know
we're,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
answers
right
now,
it's
a
little
bit
mysterious
about
how
to
how
to
proceed
where
to
go
and
yeah.
B
So
looking
for
answers
in
in
that
direction,
I
know
that
it
was.
We
all
know
it
was.
It
has
been
a
a
direction
up
to
now.
The
850
000
went
to
Haifa
and,
of
course,
Eden
on
EOS
was
created
originally,
so
that
has.
F
B
E
E
E
Let's
say
in
the
final
Milestone
personally,
if
I'm
running
Eden,
a
mo
I
I
have
total
confidence
in
MO
I
think
he's
got
a
real
good
head
on
his
shoulders
and
and
a
vision
and
and
everyone
else,
that's
kind
of
working
in
that
domain.
Right
now
is
doing
great
work.
E
I
think
to
to
clarify
personally
I
would
merge
the
Haifa
or,
like
I,
would
personally
I
would
disband
Eden
and
and
break
it
into
several
of
you
know
focused
Dows
or
circles,
like
kind
of
what
is
envisioned
already
and
take
that
what's
left
of
the
treasury
and
use
it
very
wisely
and
specifically
in
the
same
way
that
you
know
we're
kind
of
doing
with
Labs,
which
is
like
instead
of
spray
and
pray
approach
in
the
time
of
abundance
like
take
what
you
have
Focus
like
a
laser
in
very
key
areas
where
you
know
you
can
create
value
and
and
and
the
last
thing
I'd
say,
is
Rebrand
like
it's
I'm,
not
a
fan,
I've
never
been
a
fan
of
like
the
Eden
brand
I
think
it's
time.
E
It's
like
got
a
lot
of
baggage
at
this
point,
I
think
you
know
fall
in
under
Haifa.
You've
got
like
an
active
group
of
people
doing
code
development
they've
got
like
a
great
vision.
They've
got
all
sorts
of
like
cool
stuff.
It's
like
I
think
in
large
part,
people
get
so
focused
on
the
tools
that
they
lose
sight
of.
E
What
they're
even
trying
to
accomplish-
and
it's
like
I've,
said
this
before
probably
like
100
times
a
different
like
Eden
meetings
and
stuff,
but,
like
you
know,
we
could
all
be
doing
pretty
much
everything
we're
doing
right
now
with
like
a
spreadsheet
and
a
group
of
people.
Meeting
up
it
doesn't
take
like
the
tech
is
nice.
E
The
tech
allows
us
all
sorts
of
like
interesting
possibilities
that
we
wouldn't
have
otherwise,
and
it
eliminates
like
the
need
to
to
trust
third
parties
and
stuff
like
that,
but
really
like
I,
think
we
get
confused
by
like
the
toys
and
and
the
tools
when
what
we
really
need
to
decide
is
what
it
is
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
Like
what
project
are
we
trying
to
build?
What
mission
are
we
trying
to
advance
and
then
do
whatever
you
need
to
do
to
get
there
with?
E
Whoever
can
help
you
get
there
and
don't
don't
get
hung
up
on
like?
Is
it
the
perfect
form
of
centralized
governance,
or
is
it
this
and
that
I
mean
those
are
great
things
to
Aspire
towards,
but,
like
you
know,
we
can
we
can
be
effective
and
move
and
adapt
and
and
grow
like
our
way
of
operating,
like
we've
seen
all
sorts
of
really
cool
experiments
from
the
you
know,
the
the
fractal
groups
to
political
playoffs
Haifa
has
like
Incorporated
at
least
three
different
modalities
of
consensus
decision
making
together.
E
It's
like
you
literally,
have
a
whole
Suite
of
tools.
If
anything,
it's
like
over
abundance
of
possibilities
to
choose
from
I
think
what
we
need
now
is
just
people
that
have
a
clear
idea
of
what
they
want
to
accomplish
and
we'll
use
any
tool
that
is
available
to
get
it
done.
Like
one
thing,
I've
seen,
I
know
I'm
just
ranting
like
a
fool
now,
but
it's
like
every
time.
I
go
to
like
a
a
country
where
people
don't
have
a
lot
of
stuff,
I
swear,
they
just
get
so
much
more
done.
E
You
know-
and
it's
like
if
you
look
at
Community
currencies,
for
instance
in
Kenya
because
of
the
work
with
like
Grassroots
economics
and
other
people,
I
mean
it's
amazing
like
that
whole
country
is
just
multiple
projects
of
people
like
introducing
Community
inclusion,
currencies
and
all
this
really
cool
voucher
systems
and
stuff
and
radically
altering
their
society.
E
It's
like
you
know
like
here
in
in
the
west,
and
we
have
all
these
resources
and
no
one
can
get
anything
done.
You
know
it's
like
just
pick
up.
You
know
pick
up
whatever
works
and
use
it
and.
B
You've
covered
a
lot
of
ground
there,
Brandon
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
agree
with
you
that
that
Eden
fractal
has
a
lot
to
offer
and
I
will
I'll
point
out
that
it's
actually
not
something
that's
being
integrated
directly.
B
Is
it
being?
Is
it
isn't
going
after
every
single
Dow
feature
at
least
not
immediately
there
they've
got
they've
got
an
import
feature
for
the
existing
of
vote,
Eden
upvote
process.
They
don't
have
it.
It's
not
integrated
yet
and
I
would
submit
that
the
actual
Eden
fractal
ranking
process,
the
core
of
Eden
and
eating
fractal
and
and
the
thing
that
came
out
of
more
equal
animals
is
the
most
valuable
part
of
of
our
our
community
and
it's
not
being
it's
not
being
included
directly
at
this
moment
into
Haifa
and
I.
B
Think
that's
where
we
can
add
value,
as
well
as
as
attracting
and
I'm
talking
about
eating
on
EOS,
as
well
as
attracting
and
supporting
now's
using
using
the
Haifa
software
to
support
the
other
features,
but
the
core
of
it.
We
we're
kind
of
discarding
and
and
and
I
to
say
that
it's
you
know
we're
we're
we're
not
utilizing
our
our
resources
effectively
is
kind
of
hard
to
hear
from
someone
who
I
I
perceive
as
sympathizing
the
attacks
that
went
on
to
Eden
on
EOS
I.
Think
you
know,
that's
not
really
I.
Don't
think!
B
What
do
you
mean
the
the
stefan-led
election
Rush.
F
E
B
F
A
F
E
F
E
E
The
problem
I
think
is
like
we
deify
these
systems
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
yeah
I
wasn't
trying
to
attack
like
or
say
like
you
guys
are
mismanaging
resources
they're
like
there's
a
poor
use
of
resources,
like
honestly
I
think
Eden
has
done
really
cool,
with
all
the
resources
that
that
has
been
distributed
and
stuff.
That
would
have
never.
We
would
have
never
come
across.
E
Ed
had
Eden
not
existed,
but
what
I
want
to
see
now
personally,
is
for
people
to
take
all
the
pieces
and
of
the
tools
kind
of
like
what
we're
doing
dnf
with
like
okay.
Well,
we
did
the
grant
program,
but
it
was
kind
of
clunky
and
it
had
a
lot
of
overhead
and
maybe
there's
like
a
more
lean
way
to
do
the
same
thing
or
like,
let's,
let's
decompose
some
of
this
stuff
and
then
reassemble
it
in
another
package
and
personally
I
feel
like
Haifa.
E
Okay,
maybe
it
doesn't
have
all
the
bells
and
whistles
that
that
a
you
know
person
wants
for
for
some.
You
know
whatever
Dao
you
conceive
of,
but
a
lot
of
the
stuff
is
social
Tech.
At
the
end
of
the
day-
and
you
know
it's
like
you:
have
we
all
have
access
to
like
the
basic
tools
through
Haifa
or
just
getting
together
with
people
and
decide
making
agreements
and
like
deciding
to
do
things
I
think
getting
hung
up
on
limitations
and
the
tools
is
kind
of
you
know
like.
F
B
That's
very
difficult,
so
yeah,
that's
that's
I,
I
yeah!
That's
what
I
say.
E
E
It's
a
lot
of
it's
a
lot
of
overhead
to
maintain
at
some
point,
you
gotta
ask
yourself
like
what
what
about
this
is
worth
keeping
and
maintaining
at
what
cost
versus
just
getting
done
and
not
like
you
know,
paying
homage
to
this
like
machine
that
was
pretty
damn
cool
in
its
time
but,
like
you
know,
having
lost
its
active
Developers
kind
of
left,
everybody.
B
Well,
it's
been,
it
was
under
attack,
it's
actually
developers
were
pushed
out
and
the
core
of
it,
the
core
of
it
in
my
eyes,
is
capable
of
creating
very
powerful
governance
and
very
powerful
and
very
efficient
resource
allocation.
So
you're
right
now,
enf
is
considering
you
know.
How
do
we
cut
costs
and
because
we've
got
all,
we
all
have
all
this
cost
to
go
through
the
process
of
evaluating
all
of
these
grants
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
then,
on
the
other
hand,
you
have
this
thing.
B
That's
this
process,
that's
been
that
has
been
born
out
of
the
the
the
stand-up
meeting,
the
the
famous
software
agile,
stand-up
meeting
that
occurs
thousands
of
times
every
day
across
the
globe
for
decades
is
that
is
essentially
acting
as
a
price
Discovery
for
contributions
for
labor
is
it
that
is
an
engine
forget
about
the
code
that
drives
it.
It's
a
it's.
A
human
process
and
I
seem
I
feel
like
we're
dismissing
that
and
and
not
recognizing
that
as
really
super
valuable.
E
F
B
Well,
I
I
just
mentioned
the
election
issue.
That's
one
reason
that.
B
E
So
that's
more
like
on
the
fractal
side
of
the
equation.
I
suppose
I
mean
I,
see
that
as
just
like,
anyone
could
use
it
and
if
the,
if
it
works
for
the
team
that
wants
to
use
it,
they
should
use
it
now.
E
E
B
E
Love
to
see
it
I'd
love
to
see
it
I
I,
you
know,
think
I.
Think
all
these
things.
It's
been
a
delight
to
watch
all
these
different
experiments
play
out
and
we're
not
done
yet
with
those
experiments
and
now
we've
got
like
a
whole
stack
of
new,
crazy
potentialities
in
front
of
us
with
leap,
five
other
doors
and
then
so
between,
like
the
social
Tech,
which
I
would
call
like.
E
Fractally
is
more
like
social
Tech
and
even
political
playoffs,
which
can
be
done
with
the
deck
of
cards,
is
very
much
Social
Tech.
It
doesn't.
You
know,
obviously
it
distance
and
at
scale
with
multiple
different
people
from
all
over
the
world.
It
kind
of
requires
a
bit
of
a
technological
intermediary,
but
functionally
it's.
It's
just
like
meeting
people
agreeing
to
a
set
of
rules
following
the
rules-
and
you
know
maybe
like
kicking
out
people
that
don't
follow
the
rules
and
then
repeating
and.
B
Those
things
get
developed
into
code
onto
blockchain
in
a
scalable
form
can
invite
people
anyone
from
from
a
condo
association
another
to
another
L
to
another
chain
on
another
blockchain.
That
just
doesn't
happen
to
have
that
kind
of
Technology
I
could
see
Dow
governance
on
our
chain,
bringing
in
a
lot
of
people.
B
B
So
I
I
feel
like
the
the
deal
with
Haifa
was
a
wise
move
and
I
feel
like
we
need
to.
We
need
to
have
some
EOS
specific
growth
and
I
feel
like
the
best.
The
best
position
to
do
that
is
the
enf
is
to
is
to
to
put
those
delay,
those
CCS
down
and
water
it
and,
and
and
and
and
grow
that
in
our
community.
That's
that's
the
message.
I
want
to
communicate.
E
I'll
give
you
the
golf
club,
yeah
I,
mean
I,
think
yeah
I
can't
speak
for
the
enf
as
a
whole,
but
you
know
like
we.
We
bet
on
Haifa
heavy
for
a
reason
and
and
I
think
that
personally
I
just
think.
E
E
Ready
to
go,
but
it's
yeah
I
mean
try.
It's
like
they
figured
out
a
lot
of
the
nuances
like
while
Eden
Eden
had
this
like
really
cool
governance
engine
and
and
like
it
was
like
the
engine
for
the
car,
but
no
car
to
put
it
in
and
and
Haifa
kind
of,
had
the
whole
car
and
and
several
engines
to
choose
from.
But
it
didn't
have
the
Eden
engine
and
we're
like
What.
If
we
could
put
the
Eden
engine
in
the
Haifa
car
and
everyone's
like
that's,.
E
It
should
hopefully
put
the
Eden
engine
in
the
Haifa
car
in
some
way,
shape
or
form,
and
then
I,
don't
know
what
fractally
and
all
that
stuff,
like
that's
probably
not
now,
but
again
back
to
my
like
I'm
imploring
people
to
just
pick
up
whatever
tool
is
available
and
and
organize
and
do
cool
and
build
things
of
value
like
don't
wait
for
the
tools
to
be
perfect,
I
mean
I'm
so
guilty
of
that
in
my
life,
I've
wasted
half
my
life
waiting
for
like
good
tools
before
I
like
started
getting
down
to
business
and
it
not
not
until
I
got
into
my.
E
E
But
but
if
we
get
distracted
by
you
know
the
tools
and
trying
to
make
things
perfect
along
the
way.
It's
going
to
be
give
me
a
slog.
Well,.
E
B
Trying
to
strive
for
decentralization,
I
and
I
know
that
there's
there
is
no
such
thing
as
a
perfect
thing,
but
I
I
know
which
direction
it
is.
So
that's
what
I
think
we
need
to
decentralize
and
we
need
to
try
to
do
it
at
every
every
turn.
We
can
that's
I,
think
important,
but
no
nothing's
gonna.
Nothing
is
perfect.
Nothing's
going
to
be
perfect,
you
just
have
to
agree
on
the
direction
that
we
want
to
go
and
I
think
I'm.
B
E
B
E
And
yet
you
know,
like
the
moves
from
what
many
would
consider
like
the
more
centralized
Camp,
which
is
the
you
know,
the
enf
essentialized
or
receiving
funding
from
a
decentralized
org
that
has
been
methodically
adding
the
features
that
allow
the
network
to
become
more
decentralized.
So
the
savings
bucket
got
changed
so
that
now
it
can
distribute
inflation
to
more
than
one
party.
Besides
just
the
enf.
That
was
a
big
move
like
you
know
that
that
didn't
have
to
happen.
E
That
was
a
choice
and
now,
with
labs
and
Labs
being
under
a
different
group
of
decision
makers,
I
think
there's
room
for
more
of
that
and
we'll
see
that
and
yeah
who
knows
what
territory
we're
heading
into,
but
we
also
I
think
you
know
on
the
other
side
of
that
whole
discussion,
the
whole
decentralization
and
I
don't
know,
there's
like
functional
decentralization
and
then
there's
like
decentralization
for
a
show
or
like
for
bragging
rights
or
or
for
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what,
like
some
ideas.
E
Yeah
exactly
like
so
you
know,
I
think
the
trend
is
is
moving
in
a
good
direction.
It's
just
like
well
yeah,
it's
slow,
but
it's
also
the
fact
that
we're
you
know
we're
we're
pulling
ourselves
out
of
like
a
truly
impossible
situation
that
most
people,
you
know
still
that
I
talk
to
and
you've
probably
seen
other
groups
where
I'm
combating
people
on
a
daily
basis.
But
you
know
they're
extremely
dim
view
of
EOS
and
its
prospects,
for
you
know
even
continuing
to
function.
E
It's
like
we've
come
a
long
ways
already
I
think
and
not
that
we're
stopping
here,
but
you
know
I
have
to
like
stop
and
remind
myself
every
once
in
a
while
like
when,
when
it
was
just
when
I
joined,
and
it
was
just
pretty
much
to
Zach
and
Eve
and
then
you
know,
I
didn't
think
it
took
me
a
few
months
to
believe
this
was
possible
and
everything
that's
happened
since
then
has
like
kind
of
convinced
me.
E
It
is
possible
for
Eos
to
make
a
comeback
and
the
whole
Antelope
Coalition
coming
together
and
all
that
stuff.
That
was
like
stuff.
We
only
kind
of
dreamed
about
before
and
now
we're
starting
to
see.
You
know
the
tools
that
we've
always
needed
to
be
built
and
all
this
other
stuff
coming
in.
It's
like
it's
coming
together.
At
the
same
time,
it
seems
kind
of
Bleak
in
some
sense,
because
people,
you
know,
don't
see
the
the
you
know.
E
Eos
has
never
had
a
huge
inflow
of
capital,
ironically
that
that
a
lot
of
other
projects
enjoyed.
But
you
know
I,
think,
as
it's
been
pointed
out
before,
that's
something
we
kind
of
have
to
make
into
a
strength
and
like
we're
either
here
to
persist
and
survive
and
pull
it
off.
Somehow,
and
you
know,
make
this
make
this
technology
and
this
community
flourish
together,
or
you
know,
or
or
not,
there's
not
really
like
a
middle
option
there
and.
H
E
E
Well,
that
was
that
was
a
vision.
You
know,
I
didn't
think
there
were
competing
Visions
even
at
that
time
and,
like
you
know
again
like
getting
married
to
a
vision
or
married
to
like
a
particular
ideology
or
governance
framework,
may
not
necessarily
be
the
most
advantageous
way
to
operate
when,
when
you
encounter
the
way
that
things
are
actually
functioning
under
like
the
current
game,
so
then
you're
like
okay.
Well,
how
do
we
change
the
game
while
we're
playing
it
not
like
wish?
C
E
Never
was
that
we
couldn't
enforce
yeah
there's
a
lot
of.
There
are
a
lot
of
great
ideals
and
stuff
and
I.
Think
that's
what
rallied
this
community
together
and
a
lot
of
you
know.
Many
of
those
people
are
still
here
and
still
building
and
and
I,
don't
think
have
fully.
You
know,
I,
don't
think
I've
given
up
on
those
ideals.
E
It's
just
we're
adapting
as
the
as
the
game
pieces
move
around
and
we're
trying
to
stay
in
the
game,
and
then
you
know,
of
course
the
enf
was
founded
kind
of
as,
like
a
last
ditch
effort
to
to
pull
this
all
back
together
again
and
and
to
to
bring
us
out
of
that
chaos
of
uncertainty
and
directionlessness
and
whatnot
that
you
know
from
a
community
that
was
over
decentralized
and
waiting
for
some
Big
Daddy
Warbucks
to
like
come
in
and
show
us
the
greatest.
You
know
thing
ever
that
never
arrived.
E
So
you
know,
we've
learned
a
lot
I
think
on
this
journey
and
a
lot
of
us
have
probably
become
somewhat
disillusioned,
but
you
know
goes
through
Cycles
right,
like
you
get
you
get
your
bubble
bubble,
popped
and
you're.
Just
like
I
just
gotta
grind
and
go
into
cockroach
mode.
I,
don't
know
if
Rodrigo
is
still
in
the
call,
but
man
like
I
look
at
some
of
the
people
on
the
call
here
and
I
know:
y'all
have
gone
through
some
crazy
Mo.
E
You
know
times
of
just
like
survival
mode
and
just
grinding
and
not
knowing
how
anything
was
gonna
pan
out.
So
you
know
mad
props
to
everybody.
That's
stayed
this
long.
It's
kind
of
amazing
yeah,
it's
biblical
I'm,
not
even
a
Christian,
but
I
think
this
is
like
a
very
like
epic
Saga
we've
got
going
on.
You
know,
I!
Guess
it's
like
the
to
be
the
Mahabharata
if
you
prefer,
but
yeah.
E
Sometimes
when
I
think
about
the
history
of
EOS,
it's
like
pretty
epic
Saga
and
but
where
it
goes
from
here
is
pretty
much
up
to
us,
and
you
know
it's
like
the
ones
that
stick
it
out
and
keep
building
value.
Honestly
I
think
the
application
layer
is
going
to
have
the
biggest
say
and
how
this
direction
goes.
E
It's
like
trivial
at
this
point,
like
the
amount
of
influence
they
could
have
in
the
network.
It's
like
the
game
is
the
game
is
still
wide
open.
I
would
say,
there's
a
lot
it's
a
lot.
We
can
do.
E
A
All
right
that
was
pretty
good,
Brandon
I
think
we're
gonna
wrap
it
up
there
for
now.
I'm
sure
we'll
talk
again
about
these
topics
in
the
coming
weeks.
As
always,
we're
gonna
do
it
all
over
again.
Next
week,
same
time
same
place,
join
us
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