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A
A
To
the
EOS
fireside
chat
for
July
12
2023,
we
got
a
great
summer,
show
lined
up
for
everyone.
Seven
topics:
two
special
guests:
we're
gonna,
be
starting
off
in
just
a
minute
here
with
a
discussion
on
the
Hot
Stuff
consensus
algorithm.
What
does
that
mean?
We're
talking
faster
finality,
better
crypto,
intrinsics,
new
consensus
possibilities?
We've
got
gnome
from
ux
Network
joining
us
today
to
talk
about
this
in
just
a
moment.
A
We're
also
going
to
be,
of
course,
talking
about
EOS
evm
adoption,
Block
Set,
Moto,
decks,
nerve,
Network,
even
a
personalized
introduction
to
evmns
by
demo
via
audio
message,
Eden
election
last
weekend,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
results,
EOS
nft,
Twitter
spaces
coming
up
tomorrow,
we're
talking
fire
holes
and
substreams
on
Antelope.
Again,
Haifa
has
more
details
about
their
affiliate
program.
That's
been
shared
recently,
EOS
monthly
report
was
just
published
and
then
we're
gonna
sign
off
with,
of
course,
the
community
open
mic
and
some
off-topic
banter.
A
A
All
right
so
last
week,
while
we
were
reviewing
the
missari
Q2
report
for
the
EOS
Network,
they
talked
about
this
upcoming
Hot
Stuff
consensus,
algorithm
upgrade
that
is
coming
and
I
know
you're
very
well
known
on
the
topic,
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
Your
Role
with
that.
So
maybe
you
can
start
by
sharing
with
us
Your
Role
within
this
hot
stuff,
consensus
algorithm
upgrade
that's
coming
and
then
some
of
the
features
and
possibilities
that
are
going
to
be
available
to
the
EOS
Network.
At
that
time,.
B
Absolutely
so
I
guess
I'm
I'm
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
a
or
like
a
formal
role,
but
I
guess
I,
guess
I'm
the
lead
developer.
If
you
want
the
I'm,
the
the
person
that's
been
working
on
this
on
on
implementing
the
Hot
Stuff
consensus
model
for
Antelope
and
for
Eos
and
I've
been
working
with
some
other
team
members
from
the
ux
network
team,
as
well
as
some
members
of
the
es
Network
Foundation
and
we've
been
working
on
this
together
now
for
several
months.
B
So
I
guess
maybe
maybe
I
can
start
by
giving
a
bit
of
an
overview
what
hot
stuff
is
and
how
it
kind
of
fits
into
the
big
picture.
B
So
so
her
stuff
is
the
consensus
mechanism
that
has
been
developed
originally
by
VMware,
which
is
a
a
pretty
well
known,
virtual
machine
company
that
they've
been
in
the
I
guess
like
very
well
known
in
the
technology
space
for
a
long
time,
and
they
built
essentially
like
virtualization
Technologies,
and
they
they
came
up
with
a
mechanism
to
essentially
help
like
State
replication
across
different
servers,
different
environments
and
different
I
guess,
like
networks
that
they
called
Hot
Stuff
in
2018,
and
that
was
a
let's
call.
B
It
like
a
a
basic
building
block,
an
algorithm
that
could
be
used
in
different
contexts
and
a
few
years
after,
like
a
year
or
two
after
it
was
selected
by
Libra,
which
was
at
the
time
the
the
cryptocurrency
project,
led
by
Facebook
to
essentially
serve
their
consensus
algorithm
for
the
Libra
project.
So,
unfortunately,
Libra
didn't
didn't
make
it.
The
the
project
was
crap
in
the
in
the
middle
of
it.
B
But
it's
still
it's
still
quite
interesting
to
see
that
the
company,
with
the
resources
as
Facebook,
decided
when
they
did
all
that
research.
All
of
that
experimentation.
They
they
essentially
lended
on
hot
stuff.
As
the
most
state-of-the-art,
the
most
advanced
consensus
mechanism-
and
they
selected
it
for
for
Libra
and
since
then
that
mechanism
has
been
implemented
by
a
number
of
other
latest
generation,
blockchains
such
as
Aptos
and
sui
like
two
of
the
I
guess,
like
main
examples
of
implementations
of
hot
stuff
in
the
wild.
B
So
it's
already
it's
already.
It's
already
been
proven
already
works,
and
it
is.
It
is
definitely
very,
very
interesting
from
a
from
a
technical
standpoint,
as
well
as
from
a
I
guess,
governance
standpoint,
because
it
increases
the.
B
It
really
increases
the
range
of
different
consensus
mechanisms
that
can
be
built
now,
with
with
an
algorithm
like
this
one.
So.
B
Know
if,
if,
if
you
have
any
questions
so
far,
if
if,
if
all
of
them,
what
I'm
saying
makes
sense?
If,
if
anyone
has
anything,
they'd
like
to
ask
I
I
can
can
keep
going
for
a
while,
but
I
wanted
to
give
that
the
initial
overview
great.
A
Thank
you
so
far,
so
good
on
my
side,
I
do
have,
but
I
would
love
to
hear
from
people
in
the
audience.
If
you
guys
have
any
comments
or
questions
or
any
particular
topics
that
you're
specifically
interested
in
hearing
more
about
today.
Now
is
a
great
time
to
get
on
jump
on
stage
here.
Ask
question
or
even
share
it
in
the
text
chat,
so
I'm,
just
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
give
it
a
couple
moments
here
and
if
not
we'll
we'll
let
the
gnome
continue
on.
B
Right
yeah,
absolutely
so
so
we
have
to
understand
like
what
what
the
current
mechanism
for
reaching
consensus
in
both
yasayo
and
now
Antelope
is.
Is
we
have
a
number
of
blood
producers?
Typically
21?
That's
the
number
that
has
been
used
by
most
implementation
of
the
the
protocol,
and
then
each
of
these
block
producers
will
have
will
produce
blocks
in
sequence.
They
produce
typically
12
blocks
and
then
they
hand
over
the
production
to
the
next
block
producer.
The
next
block
producer
produces
their
their
12
blocks
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
B
Until
you
come
full
circle
and
it
comes
back
to
the
first
block
producer
in
the
list
and
now
the
consensus
protocol
what
it
does
is
each
time
a
new
blood
producer
adds
a
block
on
top
of
the
chain
blocks
that
are
previous
to
that
one
that
are
essentially
like
older
blocks
than
that
one
receive.
If
you
want
a
confirmation
and
once
you've
received
a
sufficient
number
of
confirmation,
the
block
is
considered
final.
That
threshold
is
currently
set
at
two
thirds
plus
one
of
the
blood
producer.
B
B
But
this
process
also
takes
quite
quite
a
bit
of
time
like
it's.
Since
you
have
all
these
plug
producers,
they
have
to
produce
12
blocks
each
and
you
have
21
of
them,
and
they
have.
You
actually
have
to
do
two
rounds
of
that
to
reach
full
finality.
B
That
process
takes
just
under
three
minutes,
which
is,
which
is
I,
mean
still
a
lot
faster
than
a
lot
of
other
blockchains
and
and
a
lot
of
transactions,
and,
let's
say
like
the
traditional
Financial
system,
but
still
quite
long
when
it
comes
to,
let's
say,
like
the
typical
experience
that
people
have
when
it
comes
to
Web
2.0
right.
B
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
research
that
has
been
done
in
trying
to
shorten
that
time
to
finality
and
hot
stuff
is
probably
like
the
most
advanced
algorithm
that
allows
that
the
way
that
HUD
stuff
work
is
instead
of
waiting
for
a
an
implicit
confirmation
by
a
block
producer
that
they
agree
on
a
specific
block
by
producing
a
block
on
top
of
the
chain
when
it's
their
turn
to
produce.
B
It
essentially
works
by
broadcasting,
the
blog
to
everyone
and
then
having
all
of
these
block
producers
essentially
broadcast
a
message
saying
yep.
We
agree
with
this
version
of
blood
1000
or
block
one
thousand
one
or
block
one
thousand
two,
and
this
whole
process
is
happening
near
instantly.
That's
why
we
call
it
also
instant
finality,
because
it
only
takes
a
split
second
for
these
messages
to
propagate
and
to
be
received
by
the
rest
of
the
network.
So
now
we
have
a
much
faster
timed
finality.
B
We're
able
to
do
this
in
I
mean
a
few
seconds,
potentially
even
less,
as
opposed
to
to
several
minutes,
and
it
also
adds
incorporates
a
lot
of
additional
benefits,
such
as
having
a
more
or
less
constant
time
to
finality,
regardless
of
the
number
of
block
producers.
So
that's
one
of
the
that's
one
of
the
the
benefits
that
this
new
algorithm
brings
is
before,
with
the
current
algorithm
that
we
have
in
Antelope.
B
We
have
to
wait
until
all
these
block
producers
produce
a
block
to
essentially
receive
their
vote,
that
their
that
the
block
is
is
valid
and
final
and,
if
you
add
more
block
producers,
you
also
add
more
time
to
finality.
So
if
you
were
to
double
from
21
block
producers
to
42
blood
producers,
you
would
also
double
from
three
minutes
to
Six
Minutes,
the
timed
finality,
but
now
with
hot
stuff,
we're
able
to
do
that
a
lot
faster
and
doesn't
really
matter
how
many
block
producers
you
have.
It
will
still
be.
B
B
Our
mandate
initially
was
not
not
specifically
to
win
to
implement
Hot
Stuff
itself,
but
it
was
rather
to
figure
out
what
was
I
mean
how
to
reach
a
faster
time
to
finality
and
as
we
started
the
research
as
we
discussed
with
other
people
in
the
space,
the
enf
engineers
and
more
more
specifically,
arig
arabician
who's
been
working
with
dnf
and
with
block
one.
Before
that.
It
became
clear
that
this
was
the
best
solution
that
was
available.
So
we
decided
to
implement
hot
stuff
as
our
solution
to
this
instant
finality
question.
B
So
so
far,
so
good
any
any
questions
any
happy
to
to
answer
any
any
questions
or
discuss
any
of
the
specifics.
A
Yeah
Drew
asked
a
question
in
the
chat
here
he
asks.
Does
this
process
consume
TPS
throughput
like
selana's
internal
consensus
transactions,
or
do
they
just
that's
a
good
question
here.
B
It's
only
happening
on
peer-to-peer,
it
doesn't
have
to
be.
The
messages
are
not
they
don't
they
don't
consume
throughput.
So
this
is
also
an
improvement
I.
In
my
opinion,
and
probably
in
the
opinion
of
a
lot
of
Engineers,
it's
an
improvement
over
the
mechanism
of
Solana,
for
instance,
because
we
don't
need
to
reach
consensus
in
Bend.
We
can
reach
consensus
out
of
Bend
without
having
that
information
recorded
on
the
blockchain
and
quote
polluting
the
chain,
and
it
it
also
has.
B
It
also
results
in
additional
cryptographic
proofs
that
can
be
used
for
other
things.
So,
as
some
of
you
may
know,
we
also
have
been
working
for
for
the
last
a
few
years
on
a
trustless
IVC
protocol
that
we
released
about
six
months
ago.
Now
that
runs
on
yes
and
on
ux
network
on
wax
on
Telos
and
probably
other
chains
will
implement
it
at
some
point,
or
they
actually
may
have
done
that
already.
B
The
code
is
open
source,
so
I'm
not
I'm,
just
not
aware,
but
they
might
have
done
this,
but
one
of
the
key
benefits
of
adding
instant
Fidelity
and
Hot
Stuff
consensus
is
that
now
in
IBC
can
also
benefit
from
that
near
instant
finality
and
instead
of
having
IBC
transfers
or
transactions.
Taking
three
minutes
like
it
is
the
case
right
now
will
be
able
to
shorten
that
time
to
a
few
seconds.
E
E
Yes,
can
you
talk
about
the
implications
of
in
layman's
term,
maybe
for
for
people
the
implications
of
what
will
be
possible
once
this
is
essentially
the
ones
we
hard
Fork
to
that,
and
this
this
is
essentially
implemented
on
and
the
implications
on
things
such
as
ZK
proofs
for
examples
and
and
why
it's
so
Monumental
in
in
in
how
the
new
code
will
be
able
to
I
guess
open
up
new
possibilities
that
we
currently
don't
have
and
just
performance
wise,
just
how
crazy
this
is.
B
A
planted
question
I
love
talking
about
that
stuff,
but
so
so,
okay,
yeah
so
obviously
I
mean
time
to
finality
is
a
I
guess
like
in
providing
when
we
want
to
provide
a
web
3.0
experience
that
feels
like
a
Web
2.0
experience
where
everything
is
instant,
where
everything
is
responsive.
This
is
key
to
being
able
to
achieve
that
because,
as
as
most
of
you
probably
know,
I
mean,
if
you
look
at
the
current
web,
3.0
experience,
it's
clunky,
you
have
the
wallet
you
have
to
sign
the
transaction.
B
You
have
to
wait
for
finality.
It
takes
a
long
time
and,
and
it
doesn't
feel
as
good
as
it's
used
to
with
the
Web
2.0
experience.
B
That
was
rely
on
the
client
server
architecture,
and
that
was
that
was
basically
where
people
became
accustomed
to
like
they
are
used
to
this
nearly
instant
transaction
time,
and
now
it
feels
like
we've
regressed
by
moving
to
this
web
3.0
because
of
all
of
the
additional
overhead
and
all
the
complexity
that
that
ensues-
and
this
is
we
understand
that
there
is
definite
benefits
with
web
3.0.
B
Things,
like
you
know,
like
ownership
of
your
assets,
of
your
keys
things
like
traceability,
auditability,
censorship,
resistance,
all
of
these
great
features,
but
we
kind
of
had
to
take
that
step
back,
unfortunately,
where
we're
increasing
the
time
to
finality
to
for
for
these
transactions.
So
what
we're
doing
with
this
instant
finality
now
is
we're
bringing
back
the
time
to
finality
to
what
we're
expecting
from
a
Web,
2.0
experience,
and
now
we
get
the
best
of
both
worlds.
B
We
get
all
of
the
the
centralization
and
immutability
and
censorship
resistance
and
true
ownership
of
assets
and
whatnot
that
is
part
of
the
web
3.0,
offering
at
the
same
time
that
we
get
the
ease
of
use
and
the
the
responsiveness
and
the
the
the
the
the
great
instant
experience
that
we
are
used
to
in
the
Web
2.0.
B
Like
experience
now,
one
of
the
ways,
one
of
the
things
the
building
blocks
to
this
to
this
instant
finale
to
the
Hot
Stuff
consensus
algorithm,
is
something
called
aggregate
transactions.
I
agree
with
signature.
B
Sorry
and
aggregate
signatures
is
a
cryptography
concept
that
is
I,
guess,
like
relatively
new,
compared
to
the
other
cryptography
tools
that
we
typically
see
in
crypto-
and
it
has
a
very
interesting
I
guess
characteristic-
is
that
now
you
can
take
multiple
signatures
and
multiple
public
keys
and
combine
them
into
a
single
public
key
in
a
single
signature,
and
you
can
evaluate
that
a
signature,
an
aggregate
signature
as
we
call
it,
has
been
produced
by
an
aggregate
public
key
which
is
really
a
combination
of
different
public
keys
and
different
messages
that
have
been
signed
or
the
same
message
that
has
been
signed
by
different
private
key
owners,
and
you
can
verify
all
of
this
in
a
single
operation.
B
So
so
this
essentially
reduces
first
of
all
the
time
that
it
takes
to
perform
these
calculations.
It
reduces
the
size
of
the
messages,
because
these
signatures
can
be
compressed.
You
can
have
as
many
signatures
as
you
want
and
compress
them
into
a
single
signature,
and
you
can
verify
this
as
a
single
operation.
So
this
is
free
when
it
comes
to
simulating
this
technology.
B
In
my
I
don't
know:
what's:
okay,
thanks
so
yeah,
so
this
is
key
when
it
comes
to
this
technology.
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
saying
earlier:
we're
now
able
to
scale,
for
example,
the
number
of
block
producers
without
without
scale
without
adding
to
the
time
to
finality,
because
we're
able
to
compress
all
of
these
signatures
into
one
and
essentially
perform
a
single
verification
of
these
of
these
signatures.
B
So
now,
even
further
than
that,
as
we
as
we
were
essentially
working
on
this,
we
identified
an
opportunity
where
we
could
actually
take
this.
B
These
aggregate
signatures
technology
and
extract,
if
you
will
the
core
building
blocks
of
these
aggregate
signatures
into
more
abstract
and
more
generic
building
blocks,
cryptographic,
building
blocks,
I
can
use
that
can
be
used
for
or
other
things
such
as
Eve
was
saying
using
these
building
blocks
for
ZK
snarks,
his
gay
Starks
and
other
zero
knowledge
proof
systems,
and
we
worked
together
with
Matthias
Sean
back
from
the
Zia's
team
to
implement
these
cryptographic
primitive
into
the
core.
B
Lead
protocol
to
essentially
have
a
better
implementation
of
the
aggregate
signatures,
as
well
as
open
the
door
to
multiple
additional
zero
knowledge
protocols
to
be
developed
as
part
of
the
Native
tooling
on
Antelope.
So
this
is
extremely
interesting
because
it
opens
the
door
to
so
many
new
possibilities,
including
including
confidential
transactions,
including
additional
privacy
mechanisms,
systems
that
are
using
addresses
instead
of
accounts,
which
I
believe
are,
are
ultimately
prerequisites
for
massive
adoption
of
blockchain
Technologies.
B
Nobody
wants
to
have
all
of
their
financial
data
on
chain
and
and
have
their
competitors
and
other
other
Financial
Predators
figuring
out
what
they,
what
they're
doing
with
everything
everyone
has
a
definitely
like
a
right
to
privacy
and
a
desire
for
at
least
some
degree
of
privacy.
So
this
is.
This
is
fundamental
in
achieving
that
goal.
B
Coming
from
personally
coming
from
the
traditional
Financial
in
industry,
I
can
I
can
tell
you
that
none
of
the
big
Financial
firms
are
interested
in
doing
any
significant
business
on
on
blockchains
until
these
kind
of
protocols
exist,
otherwise,
otherwise
they
would
be
putting
their
their
assets
and
assets
of
their
customers
at
risk,
because,
obviously,
like
there's
a
lot
of
privacy
related
questions
when
it
comes
to
what
people
do
with
with
their
finances
right.
B
So
what
we've
been
able
to
achieve,
thanks
to
the
hard
work
of
Matthias,
has
been
quite
quite
groundbreaking.
We've
we've
essentially
now
have
the
probably
the
fastest
implementation
in
the
world
when
it
comes
to
these
crypto
intrinsics
we're
faster
than
ethereum
or
faster
than
other.
The
other
chains
that
we've
looked
at
like
we've
got.
B
We've
got
some
some
massive
massive
improvements
across
the
board
when
it
comes
to
these
crypto
Primitives
and
we're
able
to
verify
these
ZK
proofs
in
roughly
I
mean
we're
we're
going
to
run
like
full
benchmarks
on
Hardware,
that's
equivalent
to
what
people
run,
what
block
producers
run
on?
Let's
say
yes,
mainnet,
but
we're
confident
it's
going
to
be
around
one
millisecond
verification
time.
B
To
give
an
example,
there
were
some
of
these
similar
intrinsics
that
were
added
in
a
I
think
in
leap
3.0
that
were
essentially
allowing
verification
in
about
10
milliseconds
with
which,
which
is
still
very
good,
but
we're
basically
now
improving
by
a
factor
of
10
over
the
implementations
that
have
been
built
so
far,
and
this
is
essentially
like
a
hundred
times
faster
than
a
pure
web
assembly
or
wasm
implementation
that
people
were
expecting
I.
B
Guess
if
you
were
to
write
the
whole
protocol
into
a
smart
contract,
it
would
take
about
100
milliseconds
to
perform
the
verification,
which
is
probably
too
long
in
the
context
of
of
a
blockchain
like
like
EOS,
but
when
you
shrink
that
verification
time
to
only
one
millisecond.
Now
it's
extremely
competitive
and
you're
able
to
perform
a
lot
of
actions
in
in
in
the
in
the
block
a
lot
of
verification
actions
on
the
Block,
and
now
it
becomes
absolutely
viable
and
extremely
exciting
in
terms
of
what
it
allows.
B
It's
a
very,
very
important
Milestone
that
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
will
be
building
up
on
and
that
will
lead
some
massive
massive
improvements
in
them
in
technology
across
the
board
for
Antelope
chains.
B
So
I
don't
know
if
I
don't
know.
If
that
that
answer
your
question
Eve,
if
there's
any
other,
any
other
aspect
that
you
want
me
to
cover
I'm
happy
too.
E
Yeah,
it
wasn't
really
a
question
as
much
as
giving
you
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
it,
especially
we
see
that
there
are
a
lot
of
narratives
surrounding
zk's
right
now:
zero
knowledge
proofs
that
are
quite
bullish,
and
he
also
I
mean
to
resume
what
you
said.
E
Basically
with
the
implementation
that
you're
working
on
and
what's
what's
possible,
we're
talking
about
10
to
100
x,
multiplier
in
performance
versus,
what's
currently
out
there,
and
so
it's
quite
massive
and,
as
you
said,
it
basically
makes
the
the
function
now
more
realistic,
more
attainable,
more
more,
more
functional
for
what
you
can
actually
do
with
it.
And
is
it
that
that's
incredibly
exciting.
B
Absolutely
and
the
the
key,
the
key
element
here
is
that
now
I
mean
there's:
there's
been
systems
that
have
been
using
ZK
proofs
for
a
long
time.
You
know
you
have
blockchains
like
Monero
and
Z
cash
that
are
built
around
that
concept,
but
they
are
a
single-use
chain.
They
essentially
only
allow
for
a
transfer
of
tokens.
They
don't
have
Smart
contracts.
They
don't
have
any
of
the
capabilities
that
that
yes
or
Antelope
chains
have
now.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
incorporating
the
same
capability
but
natively
into
a
smart
contract
platform.
B
So
this
is
this
is
amazing,
because
now
you
can
have,
for
example,
a
Decks
that
natively
implements
these
type
of
Technologies
and
where
you
can
be
guaranteed
that
cryptographically
speaking,
all
the
transactions
are
accounted
for
and
there's
no
there's,
no
double
spending,
there's
no
creation
of
additional
coins
and
whatnot,
but
nobody
really
sees
what's
happening
on
the
decks.
You
don't
see
who's
trading,
what
who's
getting?
What
out
of
it-
and
this
is
this-
is
massive
like
this
is
this
is
personally.
B
This
is
the
problem
that
I
wanted
to
solve
when
I
left
my
career
in
traditional
finance
and
and
went
into
crypto,
because
I
saw
how
people
in
position
of
authority
in
the
traditional
markets
were
abusing
their
privilege
and
were
abusing
their
positioning
to
take
advantage
of
all
of
these
of
these
issues.
You
know,
like
you,
had
all
of
these
high
frequency
Arbitrage
systems.
B
B
This
was
after
a
few
years
in
that
space,
I
became
really
like
disgusted
with
this
kind
of
behavior
that
was
commonplace
and
when
I
saw
Bitcoin
and
crypto
I
saw
this
as
an
opportunity
to
reimagine
the
financial
system
in
a
way
that
would
really
focus
on
price
Discovery
and
not
on
access
or
bandwidth
speed,
or
you
know,
like
the
being
being
part
of
the
right
gang
or
whatever
you
know,
like
I
I,
strongly
believe
in
price
Discovery
as
a
fundamental
tool
for
for
for
freedom
for
markets
to
work
efficiently.
B
So,
to
me
to
see
these,
these
massive
improvements
in
the
underlying
technology
that
now
allow
us
to
have
markets
which
are
truly
truly
free
and
open
and
and
private
at
the
same
time.
This
is
this
is
massive.
B
B
Right,
so
let
me
just
answer
trim
but
is
asking:
is
there
any
resistance
from
existing
BPS
to
move
toward
hot
stuff?
I
haven't
seen
any
quite
the
contrary?
Actually
everyone
is
really
excited
about
it.
B
I
think
I
think
it
there
will
probably
have
like
there
will
be
discussions
about
what
is
possible
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
new
I
guess
mechanisms
that
are
available
for
when
it
comes
to
governance,
and
you
can
re-architect
the
whole
new
governance
system
based
on
this,
but
I
think
I
think
this
is
this.
Is
this
has
been
seen
by
everyone
as
a
very
positive,
very
positive
development?
B
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it
will
allow
everyone
to
experiment
with
different
governance
systems
and
ultimately
choose
whatever
makes
the
most
sense,
so
no
I
haven't
seen
any
any
resistance.
Quite
the
contrary,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
encouragement
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
questions
when
I,
when
instant
finality,
like
Eve,
is
asking
now
so
so
yeah
I
mean
when
is
this
going
to
be
released,
we're
we're
looking
at
Q4
of
this
year,
most
likely,
hopefully,
and
sooner
the
better
there's.
B
It's
obviously
like
a
very
big
upgrade
to
the
system
to
to
the
software.
This
is
in
terms
of
scope.
This
is
equivalent
to
what
ethereum
went
through
with
the
the
merge
the
upgrade
to
ethereum
2.0.
So
this
is
definitely
like.
The
the
same
analogy
still
holds
where
we're
trying
to
change
the
some
people
are
saying
you're
trying
to
change
the
tires
car
as
the
car
is
running,
but
I
think
Charlotte.
B
It
requires
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
engineering,
a
lot
of
testing
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
really
really
hard
work,
but
because
the
the
the
way
that
the
the
the
antelope
software
has
been
built,
and
because
of
the
the
great
work
that
the
enf
engineers
have
been
putting
into
this
it
is,
it
is
definitely
a
lot
I
I,
suspect,
I
mean
I,
haven't
done
the
work
for
ethereum,
but
I
I.
B
Believe
it's
a
lot
easier
to
upgrade
Antelope
than
it
is
to
upgrade
the
ethereum
and
yeah
I.
Think
probably
sometime
around
Q4.
The
code
is
going
to
be
ready,
of
course,
after
that
it
requires
VPS
to
review
the
code
to
agree
on
the
the
activation
timeline
and
upgrade
and
activation
timeline
for
that
I
I,
don't
know
like
it's,
it's
going
to
be
up
to
them,
but
yeah
I
think
I
think
sometime
in
early
2024.
E
I
guess
I
can
share
some
Alpha
that
it
has
to
be
before
December
5th
or
December
10th
of
this
year.
Approximately
that's
the
target,
nice
and,
and
we
are
on
track,
and
it
is
realistic.
I
was
gonna,
joke
around
and
say
Q4
2025,
because
that's
how
long
it
took
ethereum
2.0,
but
no
we've
got
this
hard.
Fork
thing
you
know
in
order
at
this
point
there
is
a
question
from
Tony.
E
You
asked
Tony
if,
if
it's
a
hard
Fork,
essentially
that
all
BPS
need
to
agree
to
use
on
all
Antelope
chains,
so
yes
on
on
an
individual
chain
sure
not
necessarily
on
on
all
Antelope
chains,
I
mean
if,
if
people
don't
want
to
upgrade,
they
don't
need
to
on
that.
Though,
one
thing
that
is
important
to
mention
is
currently
between
the
four
Coalition
chains.
We
have
IBC
running
when
a
particular
chain
does
the
hard
fork
and
then
activates
instant
finality.
E
It
will
essentially
break
IBC
compatibility
with
the
chains
that
have
not
updated
to
the
to
the
latest
version
until
they
update
so
anything
that's
on
either.
Side
of
the
IBC
Bridge
remains
functional,
but
the
bridge
itself
essentially
loses
function.
B
B
The
IBC
contract
could
be
kind
of
Rewritten
in
a
way
that
would
support
both
modes
and
potentially
allow,
for
you
know
like
a
one
chain
being
upgraded
and
the
other
one
not
being
upgraded
just
yet
and
it
would
potentially
still
work
so
we're
still
we're
still
like
I
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
doable
it's
a
bit.
It's
a
bit
early
but
I,
think
I
think
we're
I'm,
confident,
I'm,
confident
so
you're.
E
G
E
Cheaper
than
your
usual
rate-
so
yes,
this
is
this
is
a
this
is
a
hard
Fork.
So,
yes,
the
idea
is
every
node
needs
to
update
and
so
similar
to
the
hard
Fork
of
well
in
eos's
case
September
21st
last
year.
E
It
is
a
huge
coordination,
so
what
I'm
talking
about,
for
example,
early
December
as
the
current
tentative
approximation
for
for
for
Activation?
If
you
walk
that
back,
that
means
that
roughly
a
month
or
a
little
bit
more
than
a
month
before
it's
already
been
running
on
the
test,
Nets
roughly
a
month
or
a
little
bit
month,
a
little
bit
before
that
it's
been
running
and
the
code's
been
deployed
and
we're
maybe
in
rc1
rc2
whatever
it
is.
So
by
the
time
Q3
hits.
E
We
should
have
the
code
ready
and
essentially
deployed
in
in
various
locations,
and
so
but
the
coordination
for
the
actual
Fork
activation.
It
is
a
very
long
process.
We're
talking
about.
You,
know
two
three
months
of
coordination
of
actual
work
to
coordinate
the
the
final
push,
the
button
type
of
thing
when
everybody's
pushing
the
button.
E
So
this
is
a
very,
very,
very
lengthy
and
like
gione
was
mentioning
it
is
of
the
same
magnitude
of
what
we
see
in
other
chains
when
they
upgrade
their
consensus.
Algorithms,
like
ethereum
2.0,
for
example,
in
antelope's
case
this
is
one
of
the
functions,
features,
I,
guess
advantages
of
antelope.
Is
it's
built?
It's
designed
to
be
able
to
do
this
to
be
able
to
hard
Fork
upgrade
itself.
E
Think
about
it
like
if
you're
using
your
computer
and
there's
a
new
version
of
Windows,
there's
a
patch
or
whatever
you
don't
need
to
reformat
your
computer
to
reinstall
a
new
operating
system.
You
just
upgrade
the
operating
system.
Eos
is
very
much
an
antelope.
Sorry
is
very
much
built
like
that,
and
we've
been
using
that
functionality
more
and
more
and
the
Cadence
that
we
are
trying
to
do
with
the
enf
We've
mentioned
this
before
is
that
the
spring
updates
are
of
the
non-breaking
nature.
E
So
you
know
anybody
can
update
at
their
own
rate,
just
like
we,
we
just
went
through
two
months
ago,
but
the
fall
slash
winter
updates
so
Q3
or
in
this
case
probably
Q4,
are
of
the
breaking
nature.
So
the
idea
is
that
EOS
anyways
in
its
for
for
us
we
would
be
doing
a
hard
Fork
every
year.
That
is
the
idea
and
then
just
think
about
that
it
took
four
and
it
takes
usually
it
takes
between
two
to
four
years
for
others
to
do
something
similar.
We're
aiming
to
do
this
yearly.
I
I
have
a
question
for
for
no
I
know.
B
I
B
I
Hi,
you
mentioned
the
very
admirable
goal
of
dressing
front
running,
which
is
just
a
huge
and
I
I
share
that
as
being
one
of
the
highest
potential
use
cases
and
then
and
then
you
shifted
to
governance
and
governance
is
a
very
general
term
and
so
I
I
want
to
ask
if
you
could
maybe
Define
that
a
little
bit
more.
But
what
what
you
mean
in
terms
of
governance
in
this
context,.
B
Absolutely
so
I
guess
I
guess,
like
there's
I
mean,
as
you
said,
it's
a
very,
very
big
term,
and
it's
I
guess
like
to
understand
really
what
that
means.
It
helps
to
understand
also
how
hot
stuff
works
so
we're
we
we
now
like
once
we
upgrade
to
hot
stuff.
B
We
have
a
number
of
additional
tools
that
are
at
our
disposal
when
it
comes
to
establishing
roles
and
responsibilities
of
various
entities
on
a
network
like
yes
in
order
to
like
I
guess
like
create
that
broader
governance
framework
for
the
chain,
so
we're
essentially
breaking
down
the
role
of
block
producer
into
three
different
sub
components.
B
Today,
block
producers
are
doing
all
three,
but
now
with
this
with
this
upgrade,
it
becomes
an
option
to
set
separate
these
three
responsibilities:
to
assign
these
responsibilities
to
different
entities
and
to
come
up
with
different
mechanisms
to
select
these
entities.
B
So
this
is
this
is
actually
quite
quite
maybe
maybe
a
bit
abstract,
but
when
it
comes
to,
when
it
comes
to
current
selection
of
block
producers,
we
use
the
debus
system,
which
is
delegated
proof
of
stake
where
voters
token
holders
essentially
vote
for
between
1
and
30
different
block
producers
and
there's
essentially
a
snapshot.
That's
taken
every
every
minute
of
the
total
votes
that
all
the
block
producers
have
received,
and
that
leads
to
the
election
of
the
top
21
block
producer
and
the
chain.
B
But
now
with
with
hot
stuff,
we're
essentially,
as
I
said,
we're
splitting
these
roles
into
three
different
sub
roles.
If
you
want
one
is
the
role
of
a
block
proposer,
so
it's
an
entity
that
will
essentially
at
any
given
time,
provide
the
rest
of
the
network
with
a
copy
of
what
their
let's
call
it
like.
B
Their
pool
of
transaction
looks
like
like
that
particular
node
sees
all
these
spending
transactions
and
says:
okay,
here's
my
copy
of
that
transaction
pool,
that's
a
proposal
or
a
Blog
at
the
specific
time,
and
then
you
have
another
entity
that
is
the
block
finalizer.
That
has
the
responsibility
to
vote
on.
B
Such
a
proposal
say
if
they
agree
with
it
or
not,
and
then
you
have
the
third
entity,
the
third
role,
which
is
the
consensus
leader
and
the
consensus
leader
Aggregates
the
vote
of
the
block
finalizers
into
what
we
call
Quorum
certificates,
which
are
proofs
that
a
group,
a
majority
for
example,
of
finalizers,
agreed
that
the
proposal
was
valid.
So
these
by
having
these
three
different
sub
roles
and
having
different
mechanisms,
also
to
select
how
these
roles
are
are
determined.
B
We
essentially
have
a
much
I
guess
much
bigger
range
of
different
mechanisms
that
could
be
built.
I
know
you
and
I
Perry
met
to
Eden
fractal
elections,
and
this
would
be
now
a
possibility
where
you
could
have.
You
could
literally
have
let's
say,
like
block
proposers
or
consensus
leaders
selected
through
a
mechanism
such
as
Eden
fractal
elections
and
then
be
tasked
with
proposing
blood
candidates
at
a
specific
height
or
aggregating,
the
the
consensus
messages
that
are
issued
by
the
finalizers
into
Quorum
certificates.
So
this
is
just
one
example:
I
mean
it
goes.
B
We
can
can
probably
brainstorm
and
create
a
million
different
ways
that
this
could
work
you
could.
You
could
include
proof
of
work
in
the
selection
process.
You
could
include
like
democratic
voting.
You
could
include
just
about
just
about
anything
you
can
think
of
as
a
selection
mechanism
for
any
of
these
three
roles,
as
well
as
for
determining
how
long
an
entity
should
be
performing
a
specific
role,
what
would
be
the
conditions
under
which
they
would
be
booted
out
the
process
and
replaced
by
another
entity
and
so
on
and
so
forth?
B
I
It
does
and
it's
inspiring
to
hear
that
a
technical
group
of
that
caliber
has
addressed
these
governance
issues
and
I
would
encourage
everybody
in
in
the
governance
groups,
the
governance,
fractals
and
and
in
our
community,
to
dive
into
what
gnomes
group
has
done.
Learn
from
it,
so
you
know
yeah
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
learn
from
each
other,
even
even
though
one
is
very
technical
and
the
other
one
is
a
little
more
abstract
and
wow.
I
B
Most
DS
is
asking
what
implications
will
this
have
for
token
holders
who
have
their
tokens
on
exchanges?
If
any
one
of
the
big
I
guess
like
one
of
the
very
interesting
I
guess,
derivative
of
instant
finality
is
now
we're.
Gonna
be
able
to
have
I
guess
like
what
we
call
light
plan,
verification
and
validation
of
proofs,
and
the
reason
why
that's
important
is
until
now
it
is.
It
is
quite
difficult.
B
Let's,
let's
face
it,
it's
quite
difficult
to
run
infrastructure
for
for
Eos
and
Antelope
compared
to
other
blockchain.
It
takes
typically
a
lot
of
space.
It
has
like
more
complicated
Hardware
requirements
and
there's
very
little
in
terms
of
light
client
support.
What
the
light
client
is
is
a
let's
say,
like
a
piece
of
software
that
is
able
to
communicate
with
a
network
like
EOS
and
only
need
a
subset,
a
fraction
of
the
data
that
the
full
node
has
in
order
to
verify
and
prove
that
certain
transactions
took
place.
B
So
when
it
comes
to
support
by
exchanges
now,
it
will
become
possible
for
exchanges
to
run
a
a
very
lightweight
software
that
will
still
be
able
to
alert
them
when
a
transaction
takes
place
and
when
people
are
transferring
money
in
and
out
and
and
essentially
incorporate
that
into
their
infrastructure
without
having
to
run
full
nodes,
which
has
been,
which
has
been
a
kind
of
pain,
point
for
a
lot
of
exchanges
that
wanted
to
support
support,
EOS
and
other
Antelope
chains.
B
So
that's
one
of
the
the
ways
that
this
is
going
to
impact
exchanges,
there's
also
also
I,
guess,
on
the
other
side
of
the
spectrum
having
a
I
guess,
instant
finality
and
Hot
Stuff
consensus
also
improves
the
I
guess
the
user
experience
when
it
comes
to
dexas
when
it
comes
to
interchain
transfers
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
which
might
actually
I
guess
like
move
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
let's
say:
liquidity
and
trading
activity
to
on-chain.
B
Instead
of
instead
of
relying
exclusively
on
centralized
exchange,
because
today
they
they
still
provide
probably
a
better
user
experience
than
most
on-chain
dexes.
Now
we're
basically
leveling
the
playing
field
and
we're
also
adding
I
guess
like
the
capability
for
Texas
to
feel
a
lot
more
like
centralized
exchanges
and
and
offer
a
much
better
user
experience
with
less
friction
and
speedier
faster
transactions,
or
at
least
when
it
comes
to
Interchange,
Communications,
so
I
think
I
think
this
is
also
like
extremely
promising
building
block
for
all
of
these
on-chain
applications.
B
What,
if
any,
is
the
effect
of
instant
finality
on
micro
Forks
when
it
comes
to
micro
Forks?
Typically,
these
are
essentially
like
as
the
name
as
the
name
implies.
These
are
very
short-lived
Forks,
where
two
block
producers,
for
example,
might
have
a
different
version
of
the
chain
due
to
some
timing
issues
or
maybe,
when
the
blocks
are
too
big.
B
B
So
there's
there's
definitely
a
way
with
instant
finality
to
reach
consensus
on
what
the
current
version
of
events
is
and
what
is
the
current
version
of
the
chain
much
faster.
So
we
expect
to
see
a
significant
decrease
in
the
number
of
micro
Forks,
especially
especially
when
it
comes
to
I,
guess,
like
large
block
size
and
like
like
yeah
like
blocks
that
are
very
heavy.
We
can.
We
can
propagate
I.
Guess,
like
the
these
consensus
messages
very
quickly,
so
because
they're
they're
much
smaller.
B
So
we
can
reach
consensus,
probably
faster,
at
least
like
on
on
on
in
a
lot
of
scenarios.
A
All
right
that
was
great
lots
of
exciting
information.
Here
there
we
go
yeah,
let's
keep
it
coming.
If
you
guys
have
more
questions
and
gnome
has
time
for
a
couple
more,
let's
take
a
couple
more
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
some
other
topics.
B
Perry's
asking
if
there's
a
GitHub
other
resource
where
an
explanation,
the
new
governance
architecture,
changes,
are
discussed,
we're
not
talking
about
governance
changes
just
yet,
because
obviously
this
is
the.
What
we're
doing
here
is
we're,
let's
say
we're
we're
I,
guess
improving
the
software
in
a
way
that
these
things
are
now
possible,
but
it's
very
important
to
understand
we're
not
advocating
for
any
change
to
the
governance
mechanism
of
any
of
these
chains.
This
is
not
our
place
as
Engineers
to
take
these
decisions.
B
These
are
much
broader
questions
that
have
to
do
not
only
with
the
technology
but
with
the
social
aspects,
with
the
capital
aspects
with
the
Democratic
aspects
of
all
these
communities,
and
each
of
these
communities
also
have
different
traditions
and
different
I
guess
like
objectives
that
might
or
might
not.
B
You
know
like
what
to
implement
some
of
these
different
mechanisms,
so
we're
providing
the
options.
The
options
are
there
and
then
each
of
these
communities
can
decide
like
the
best
way
to
to
use
this
technology
to
achieve
whatever
goals
they
have
so
I
mean
in
a
very
abstract
way.
I
guess
you
can
probably
find
some
some
interesting
discussions
in
in
any
other
community
that
has
implemented
that
stuff,
like
the
at
those
blockchain
or
Suite
blockchain.
B
Should
we
discuss
about
these
kind
of
things
and
there
might
have
been
also
like
a
few
other
interviews
or
a
few
other
podcasts
in
which
I
participated.
When
we
discussed
a
few
of
these
things
as
well,
but
again,
I
mean
from
as
an
engineer
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
my
role
is
to
give
the
communities
some
options
and
then
the
communities
can
decide
what
they
want
and
how
to
best
serve
their
members
and
token
holders.
But
like
again,
the
the
having
having
options,
I
think
is
always
is
always
good.
J
J
On
your
last
point,
which
was
extremely
well
articulated,
I
will
say
at
what
point:
does
the
current
system
of
depos
stop
being
d-pass
or
like
at?
What
point
will
we
cross
a
threshold
into
something
else?
J
Is
that
the
switch
to
Hot
Stuff
itself,
or
is
that
more
enabling
flipping
some
of
these
switches
or
going
through
these
levers
that
are
enabled
through
hot
stuff
that
could
take
place
later,
like
at
what.
B
Point
yeah
yeah,
that's
a
very
good
question,
so
so
I
mean
the
current
consensus
model
of
EOS
and
most
Antelope
chains
actually
is
deep.
Us
plus
abft.
So
deepas
is
essentially
delegated
proof
of
stake.
That's
the
mechanism
through
which
block
producers
are
selected
and
a
bft,
asynchronous
Byzantine
fault.
Tolerance
is
the
way
through
which
these
block
producers
will
reach
consensus
on
on
a
I
guess.
B
A
specific
version
of
the
blockchain
history,
so
really
hot
stuff,
now
allows
for
a
change
in
both
of
these
aspects
of
the
of
the
consensus
mechanism.
B
It
allows
for
a
change
in
D
plus,
if
we,
if
we
decide,
and
it
allows
for
a
change
in
the
abft
side
of
the
equation,
but
were
the
the
the
upgrade
that
we're
making
we're
only
touching,
if
you
will
the
abft
side
of
the
equation,
although
the
Hot
Stuff
allows
also
changing
the
deepest
side
of
the
equation,
we're
not
changing
that
just
yet
we're
creating
a
mechanism
through
which
now
this
can
be
changed
and
before
that
that
was
not
even
possible,
because
the
two,
the
two
like
d
plus
plus
abft,
were
so
intertwined
that
it
was
just
not
possible
to
change
one
without
changing
the
other.
B
But
now
with
the
with
with
hot
stuff,
we're
able
to
decouple
these
two
aspects
and
to
essentially
have
new
mechanisms
to
select
these
block
producers
changing
those
kind
of
things,
while
also
preserving
new
consensus,
the
new
way
to
reach
intensities
that
was
offered
by
husband.
So
as
we
release
this
upgrade,
the
only
thing
that
will
be
different
is
going
to
be
the
time
personality
is
going
to
drop
from
three
minutes
to
now.
B
It's
also
like
this
is
the
first
thing
that
will
that
will
happen,
but
it
will
also
have
that
under
the
hood,
it
will
now
also
exist
the
possibility
of
changing
the
way
that
block
producers
are
selected
or
changing
the
number
of
blood
producers
or
giving
them
specific
roles,
such
as,
as
I
was
mentioning
earlier,
like
the
role
of
block
proposer,
the
role
of
block
finalizer
of
a
consensus
leader,
potentially
electing
or
selecting
different
people
to
perform
these
different
roles,
using
possibly
other
systems
to
to
reach
to
to
select
these
entities
other
than
straight
deepas
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
B
So
this
is.
This
is
like,
like
I,
said,
we're
providing
additional
options
by
default,
the
system
will
still
remain
a
Depot
system,
but
now
every
chain
will
have
the
ability
to
modify
their
governance
and
to
to
decide
on
another
path
if
they
choose.
So
if
they
want
to
stick
with
what
what
currently
is
is
implemented
on
the
selection
mechanism,
they
can
keep
what
what
is
there
if
they
want
to
experiment
with
other
things,
they
can
launch
a
test
net.
Try
it
out
see
how
that
works.
B
New
entities
can
launch
new
chains
and
see
like
how
that
works.
We
also
have
IBC
right
so
I
mean
it
becomes
much
easier
to
experiment
with
these
with
these
new
Concepts.
Now
that
we're
able
to
have
trustless
communication
between
all
these
chains,
so
Drew
was
also
asking
curious
if
evm
will
improve
with
that
stuff
as
well.
Yes,
there's
there's.
Definitely
it's
it's
also.
B
One
of
the
reasons
why
why
this
is
such
a
high
priority,
for
for
for
yes
and
for
Telos,
is
because
it
will
improve
also
the
time
to
finality
for
evm
transactions,
so
definitely
yeah
definitely
gonna
help
around
on
that
front
as
well.
B
And
then
ux
IBC
model.
Yes,
it
is
deployed
on
the
four
chains
of
the
antelope
Coalition.
So
yes,
ux,
Telos
and
wax
I
believe
there's
also
other
chains
that
that
are
looking
at
it
that
want
to
implement
it
and
and
deploy
it
and
it's
a
free,
open
source
technology.
So
anyone
can
literally
just
just
take
the
smart
contracts,
deploy
them
on
their
chain,
deploy
them
on
their
token
and
have
their
token
and
or
chains
connected
to
the
ecosystem.
Yep.
J
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
quick
follow-up
to
my
previous
question
and
thanks
for
the
answer
to
that
so
leaving
governance,
sort
of
aside
for
the
moment
in
terms
of
decomposing
the
role
of
block
producer
into
these
various
other
entities,
could
you
speak
to
any
technical
or
performance
advantages
to
doing
this?.
B
Absolutely
so
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
at
least
like
for
me
one
of
the
very
interesting
things
that
I
can
see
developing
out
of
this
and
I
mean
it's
not
it's
not
necessarily
something
that
people
will
do
right
away,
but
now
it
becomes
possible.
So
there's
there's
basically
now
the
ability
to
do
what
I'm
gonna
say
next
right
now,
when
a
block
producer
is
elected
and
when
they're
they're
essentially
producing
blocks,
they
are
essentially
given
a
blank
check.
B
If
you
want
like
a
full
Authority
in
determining
what
the
order
of
transactions
is
for
that
period
of
time,
so,
essentially
like
you
can
have,
you
can
have
a
block
producer
now:
they're
they're
elected
they're
in
the
schedule,
they're
producing
Bloods
and
they're
receiving
transactions
from
anywhere
everyone
else
on
the
network
and
their
job
is
to
organize
these
transactions,
to
sequentially
order
them
and
then
to
produce
a
look
and
say
like
this
is
the
basic
source
of
Truth
for
that
blood.
This
is
the
order
in
which
these
transactions
happen.
B
So
that's
a
big
responsibility,
especially
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
like
Financial
transactions,
because
they
can
reorder
these
transactions
in
a
way
that
would
benefit
them,
for
example,
so
I
mean
it
could
be.
It
would
be
very
easy
for
a
block
producer
to
sandwich
trades
to
front-run
trades
to
reorganize
all
of
these
transactions
in
a
way
way
that
that
makes
sense
for
them.
So
you
see
a
big
order
coming
on
an
amm.
B
Maybe
you
like
slip
your
own
order
before
it
and
you
sell
right
after
so
that's
called
sandwiching,
so
you're
you're
essentially
like
taking
an
advantage
of
that
big
whale,
making
an
order
you're
taking
the
transaction
before
them.
Then
you
sell
it
back
to
them
and
you
make
an
instant
profit.
So
that's
that's
I
mean
one
of
the
ways
that,
like
like
people
actually
do.
Monitorium
is
called
Mev
like
a
maximum
extract
extraction
of
value
or-
and
this
is
this
is
to
me
like
abusing
a
position
of
Authority
or
privilege
in
a
sense.
B
So
this
is
the
kind
of
things
that
I'm
trying
to
mitigate
with
Technologies
like
this.
Now
what
you
can
do
to
to
to
counter
that,
for
example,
you
could
imagine
how
you
would
rework
like
some
of
the
protocols
so
that
now
you
have
more
than
one
block
proposer
that
is
essentially
like
submitting
what
their
block
would
look
like,
and
you
could
compare
them.
B
They
might
have
slight
differences
in
in
the
the
their
the
content
of
a
block
proposal
because
it
takes
a
different,
like
maybe
takes
a
little
bit
more
time
for
a
transaction
that
originated
from
Europe
to
reach,
let's
say
like
South
America
and
it
takes
to
reach
North,
America
or
Asia
or
something.
But
if
you
see
something,
that's
really
really
out
of
place
where,
like
everyone,
has
more
or
less
the
same
block
proposal
and
there's
one
of
the
proposer
that
has
it
look
at
this
widely
different
than
the
others.
B
It
might
be
not
necessarily
like
a
proof
of
wrongdoing,
but
it
is
kinda
suspicious
and
if
it
keeps
repeating
like
a
happening
over
and
over
again,
then
there
might
be
actually
a
cause
for
concern.
So
this
is
one
of
the
examples
of
how,
having
like
separate
groups
and
having
potentially
like
multiple
block
proposers
as
a
as
a
system
function,
how
they
can
help
in
designing
better
and
more
trustworthy
systems.
That
would
be
one
example.
B
Another
example
is,
if
you
have
let's
say
like
because
I
mean
you
have
all
sorts
of
entities
on
a
network
like
yes,
some
block
producers
are
technically
more
Savvy
they're,
better
at
running
infrastructure.
Some
block
producers
are
essentially
more,
let's
say,
like
capital
E
invested,
they
have
more
capital
in
the
ecosystem
and
they
want
to
have
a
say
in
the
in
the
in
in
the
governance
of
the
system.
B
Maybe
some
other
entities
represent
a
larger
number
of
token
of
smaller
token
holders
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
they
might
all
be
good
at
certain
things,
but
not
necessarily
as
good
as
like
in
other
things.
So,
for
example,
I
was
I
was
telling
you
all
about
the
the
three
roles.
There's
one
role:
that's
called
census,
leader,
a
consensus
leader.
B
Their
task
is
to
aggregate
as
many
Quorum
messages
from
the
finalizers
and
organizing
them
into
Quorum
certificates.
They
have
no
Authority
whatsoever.
They
cannot
do
anything
really
other
than
collecting
these
Quorum
certificates
and
presenting
them
to
the
rest
of
the
network
so
for
these
particular
entities
that
are
acting
as
consensus
leader,
one
very
good
way
in
my
opinion
of
selecting
them
would
be
technical
competency
as
well
as
I
guess,
like
network
connectivity
with
other
actors
in
the
network.
We
don't
really
care.
B
B
But
you
could
essentially
delegate
that
job
to
only
like
very,
very
good
technical
teams
that
are
very
well
connected
and
that
have
like
very
good
data
centers,
with
connections
to
all
the
other
continents
and
all
the
other
data
centers
and
very
high
bandwidth
and
whatnot,
and
that
would
essentially
increase
the
resilience
and
I
guess
performance
of
the
network.
So
that's
that's
another
example
on
how
you
can
now
play
with
these
different
rules
and
optimize
the
network
even
further
and
improve
performance
and
reliability,
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
B
C
B
Side
chain
and
sister
chain-
oh,
if
we
have
more
like
I,
was
gonna-
think
that
the
maybe
I
have
one
more
question
from
trim,
but
the
difference
between
a
side,
chain
and
sister
chain
semantics,
really,
because,
technically
speaking,
the
way
that
I
personally
like
to
describe
it
is
a
side
chain
would
be
a
chain
that
uses
the
same
token
than
the
main
chain.
So,
for
example,
imagine
a
scenario
in
which
you
want
to
scale
yes,
adding
more
transactions
per
second,
adding
more
throughput.
B
You
could
have
like
yes,
dot,
like
whatever
a
he
has
that
b.
Yes,
that's
C!
These
would
all
be
side
chains
of
EOS.
That
would
all
use
the
es
token
and
the
like
staking
the
yes
token,
or
rather
using
the
power
up
model
with
Grant
resources
to
these
side
chains,
for
instance,
so
that
that
would
be
what
I
would
call
a
side
chain
when
I
talk
about
a
sister
chain,
I
would
say
typical.
B
These
would
be
chains
that
have
a
different
token,
but
they
are
still
using
the
same
like
either
yes,
I
or
Antelope
software
and
they're
still
able
to
communicate
and
work.
Let's
say
like
relatively
the
same
way,
but
that's
that's
yeah
like
I
said
semantics.
It's
really
like
really
yeah
a
semantic
question.
B
So,
anyway,
up
to
you
Stefan,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
keep,
if
you
want
me
to
if.
A
I
Would
just
take
out
of
this
extremely
busy
schedule
an
hour
or
so
and
visit
us
at
Eden,
fractal,
I,
think
just
explaining
to
us
the
thought,
processes
and
and
the
nomenclature
that
you've
created
around
these
different
roles,
I
think
at
the
very
least,
they
would
be
inspiring
to
us,
because
I
think
we're
addressing
similar
problems
at
a
different
level
of
abstraction,
so
I
know
you're
very
busy,
but
if
you
could,
together
with
Dan
and
maybe
arrange
some
kind
of
presentation
to
us,
that
would
be
just
a
huge
thing.
I
think
so.
Thank
you.
B
Sure
maybe
yeah
like
then,
if
you
want
you
can
just
ping
me
and
we
can
schedule
that.
D
Sounds
great
I
I'll,
send
you
a
message
Canon
and
thanks
so
much
for
sharing
everything,
you're
working
on
Super
inspiring
and
thank
you
Perry
as
well,
so
yeah
looking
forward
to
discussing
that
more
and
also
at
alien
worlds,
too.
Thanks
a
lot,
you
know
thanks.
Everyone.
A
All
right,
I
guess
we'll
leave
it
there
casual
65-minute
segment
to
open
the
show
here.
I
thought
yesterday.
This
would
be
a
short
show,
I'm,
always
wrong
when
I
think
that
it's
been
great
gnome
thanks
for
joining
us.
Thanks
for
answering
all
of
these
questions,
thank
you
for
everyone
who
participated
from
the
chat
asking
great
questions
on
the
mic
in
the
chat
love
to
see
it.
A
All
right
so
yeah
thanks,
you
know
and
come
back
anytime
when
you've
got
some
more
stuff.
You
want
to
share
with
us.
A
All
right
so
before
we
keep
going
a
bit
of
housekeeping
pop
token,
promos
are
available.
Pop
tokens
are
available
to
be
claimed
in
the
pop
bot
chat
as
always
prizes
for
last
week's
monthly
raffle
have
not
been
sent
yet,
but
these
gift
boxes
are
coming
soon
still
in
production
and
wherever
you're
listening
into
whether
it's
on
YouTube
Twitter
Facebook
leave
us
a
like
subscribe,
retweet
reshare
do
all
the
things
engage
with
the
show
leave
a
comment:
we
love.
We
love
it
when
you
guys
do
that.
A
All
right,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
next
topics.
I'm
gonna
go
a
bit
quickly
over
this
one,
and
then
we've
got
a
couple
more
guests
that
are
waiting
to
talk
to
us,
so
we'll
get
to
them
very
shortly.
So
next
topic
today,
EOS
evm
adoption
continues
to
grow.
So
we've
had
a
nice
bunch
of
tweets
this
week
from
Partnerships
that
the
EOS
Network
Foundation
is
highlighting.
I'm
gonna
go
over
them
real
quickly.
Here,
first
up
we've
got
block
SEC.
A
A
So,
there's
more
information
there
in
that
nice
tweet
thread
from
the
enf.
If
you're
interested
in
more
information
about
these
upcoming
audits
for
the
EOS
evm
in
terms
of
game,
5
news
on
the
evm
we've
got
Moto
Decks
that
has
added
the
EOS
evm
as
a
supported
network
of
their
dap.
Look
to
see
it
enhance
project
structure
and
internal
plugins
quality
assurance
in
progress,
and
you
know
lots
more
coming
from
the
world
of
moto
decks.
I
got
a
question
while
I
was
reviewing
the
story.
A
Is
this
game
also
a
decentralized
exchange
because
they
have
decks
in
the
name
and
from
what
I
can
tell?
No?
This
is
a
game
and
not
a
decentralized
exchange
and
then
another
update
from
nerve
Network,
where
they're
excited
to
share
an
upcoming
integration
with
the
EOS
evm
Network
nerve
products
include
nerve,
Bridge,
nerve,
swap
nerve
farm
and
swap
box
that
will
fully
support
the
EOS
evm
and
deliver
seamless
Bridge
service
to
the
community.
A
Anyone
from
the
enf
here
have
anything
else
to
add
about
these
projects
feel
free
to
jump
in
here.
If
not
gonna
move
on
to
our
next
EDM
project
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
a
bit
today,
evm
name
service.
A
All
right
so
e,
v,
m
and
S
is
a
distributed
and
open
extensible
multi-chain
digital
identity
domain
naming
system
built
on
the
evm
and
EOS
I've,
been
in
communication
with
demo
the
marketing
manager
from
evm
NS
invited
on
the
Fireside,
but
since
they're
in
Asia
the
timing
doesn't
really
work
so
what
they
did
instead
was
they
record
a
short
audio
message
for
us
about
three
minutes
so
I'm
going
to
play
this
clip
from
demo
the
marketing
manager
for
evm
NS,
and
he
does
have
an
accent
so
he's
also
provided
a
script
for
us,
so
I'm
going
to
be
copy
pasting
that
script
into
the
chat
in
order
to
help
you
guys
listen
along
to
the
message.
K
A
full
name
is
eos
evm
net
service,
which
is
a
distributed,
oven
and
scalable
decentralized
identifier,
domain
name
system
built
on
U.S
evm
by
absorbing
the
advantages
of
existing
the
ID
projects,
to
empower
major
projects
and
contribute
to
the
prosperous
development
of
U.S
econ
system
and
carry
forward.
The
code
builds
culture
for
government
spirits
of
F3.
K
In
terms
of
technological
innovation,
we
determine
two
comprehensively
solve
zero,
with
character
problem
and
enhance
the
uniqueness
of
the
ID
as
nft.
We
will
focus
on
developing
decentralized
business
cards,
decentralized
websites
and
other
applications
to
less
solid
foundation
for
serving
building
level
user
size.
We
also
have
a
super
air
job
to
bridge
U.S
managed
users.
K
We
will
add
job
12
character,
dot,
evm
names
to
5
million,
plus
accounts
on
us
blockchain,
allowing
us
managed
users
access
to
U.S
evm
without
any
barriers
and
Leland
experience,
defined
game,
fine
social,
fine
projects.
Only
VM
I'd
like
to
introduce
one
exciting
feature
of
events:
registration,
the
referral
rewards
system,
the
users
who
refer
their
friends
to
register
a
DOT
evm
name-
will
receive
the
referral
rewards
with
top
of
35
percentage
of
the
registration
fee.
K
K
The
renewal
fee
of
our
names
for
each
year
will
be
5,
usdt
and
all
payments
will
be
settled.
In
EOS
token,
thanks
for
listening
to
the
EVMS
introduction,
we
will
launch
soon
and
the
Tucson
campaigns
to
promote
our
project.
Please
follow
our
Twitter
and
join
telegram
graft
and
you
will
know
more
about
us.
A
There
you
go
all
right,
thank
you
to
demo
from
evmns
for
recording
this
short
audio
message
for
us,
introducing
the
project
and
also
providing
me
with
a
script
that
I
can
share
with
you
guys,
so
that
was
very,
very
thoughtful
of
them.
A
couple
interesting
highlights
that
I
I'd,
like
to
recap
they're
going
to
be.
They
announced
a
super
airdrop
to
bridge
EOS
minute
users
are
going
to
be
air,
dropping
12
character,
evm
names
to
over
5
million
accounts
on
the
ounce
blockchain.
That
sounds
awesome.
There's
also.
A
They
also
released
the
pricing
structure
for
EVS
EV
MNS
names,
three
characters
at
a
hundred
dollars,
four
characters,
fifty
and
five
characters
or
above
five
dollars.
So
some
cool
information
shared
here
from
the
team
and
yeah
thanks
thanks
to
the
team
for
providing
this
audio
message
for
us.
A
A
A
So
so
there's
a
election
happened
on
Saturday
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
exact
turnout
of
how
many
people
showed
up,
but
I
think
it
was
around
50.
and
I'm.
Just
gonna
quickly
give
a
shout
out
to
all
of
our
new
layer,
one
delegates.
A
So
in
order
of
group
number,
we've
got
EOS
Mel
Adam,
zetarski,
Michael,
talenko,
Dominic
Thomas
mo
Dwayne
dancing,
Joy
Thiago,
Patrick
Lovejoy,
no,
but
crypto
Gabrielle,
Shaw
Liam,
Nguyen
Nicola,
and
there
was
three
groups
that
did
not
reach
consensus.
So
congratulations
to
all
our
new
level,
one
delegates
and
a
big
congratulations
to
our
new
Chief
delegates,
Mo
Gabriel
and
Nova
crypto.
A
So
congratulations
to
our
new
Chief
delegates.
If
any
of
these
I,
like
elected
nuggets,
are
here
with
us
today,
I
would
invite
you
guys
to
jump
on
the
mic
say
a
few
words
if
you
want,
if
not,
I
can
certainly
share
a
couple
thoughts
that
I
have.
C
C
It
kind
of
suggests
to
me
that
people
are
in
Conflict,
which
is
part
of
what
we
want
to
ferret
out
in
the
process,
but
at
the
same
time,
there's
a
lack
of
alignment
I'm
very,
very
enthusiastic,
this
term
to
push
towards
to
continue
I
think
the
good
work
that
was
done
by
both
Mo
and
Lenny
and
contributors,
the
other
L1
delegates
from
last
term
and
to
continue
in
the
direction
that
they
started
and
a
big
part
of
that
is
just
lining.
C
The
Ducks
up
in
a
row
just
bring
you
a
little
bit
more
order,
an
organization
to
the
direction
that
has
already
been
inspired,
so
we're
forming
working
groups.
I
would
love
to
see
the
people
that
are
on
this
EOS
fireside
chat
feel
more
engaged
more
interested
to
participate.
What
is
happening
in
the
Eden
on
EOS
Community,
so
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for
those
kind
of
opportunities,
we're
going
to
continue
again
the
direction
of
forming
working
groups
and
try
and
bring
a
bit
more
formality
to
that.
C
If
any
of
you
have
experience
or
perspective
on
how
working
groups
should
or
could
be
organized,
then
please
contribute
and
if
you
want
to
work
inside
of
the
working
groups,
maybe
if
Moe's
on
the
call
or
or
you
guys,
you'll
get
an
update
soon
enough,
as
we
start
to
publish
but
there's
I
think
it's
five.
The
idea
is
five.
C
Now
working
groups
going
through
election
governance,
comms
and
media
Technical
and
development
and
and
a
few
others
lives
online
right
now,
but
if
you
want
to,
if
you
guys
want
to
be
involved,
then
please
raise
your
hand
coming
to
the
Eden
on
EOS
Community
Telegram
and
find
those
channels
find.
The
general
discussion
find
the
planning
document
that
we've
started
to
put
together
where
we're
outlining.
The
document
has
three
three
sections.
The
first
is
the
chief
delegate
perspective
and
What
mo
myself
and
Patrick
will
be
discussing,
will
be
transparently
presented
in
that
document.
C
For
everyone
to
see.
The
second
section,
then,
is
for
the
L1
delegates
for
them
to
list
their
interests
and
the
things
that
they
care
about
in
terms
of
the
Eden
on
EOS
Community,
whether
they're
committed
to
doing
anything
with
those
things
at
this
time
or
not,
or
feel
empowered
to
do
so
at
least
to
share
their
interests
right,
and
that
should
be
on
the
basis
of
why
they
were
elected
as
L1
delegates.
C
I
think
the
intention
for
Eden
iOS
was
never
that
the
chief
delegates
were
be
just
doing
their
own
pet
project.
That's
not
my
perspective
on
what
the
community
should
be.
My
idea
in
my
role
as
Chief
delegate,
is
to
help
curate
and
help
organize
the
interests
of
the
community
and
that's
what
I
want
to
see.
G
Hey
Mo-
you
are
here
great,
yes,
just
wanted
to
say
that
basically
I'm
very
happy
that
that
the
direction
that
we
proposed
was
ratified
so
fairly
happy
with
the
with
the
outcome
of
the
election
and
appreciate
the
vote
of
confidence
from
the
community
and
simply
to
Echo
some
of
what
Gabrielle
was
saying.
G
I
think
he
pretty
much
covered
everything
pretty
well,
but
just
to
say
that
the
the
funds
from
the
delegates
and
the
chief
delegates,
fifty
percent
of
their
funding,
is
being
asked
to
be
donated
to
go
towards
the
working
groups.
So
there
should
be
pretty
a
fair
amount
of
funding
that
should
incentivize
a
lot
of
the
community
to
go
in
there
and
contribute.
So
we
hope
that
there
will
be
more
activity
coming
from
the
community.
A
Thank
you
Mo,
and
congratulations
on
being,
like
the
chief
delegate
and
yeah
the
for
all
the
support
that
you've
accumulated
for
this
new
direction
that
you
proposed
as
a
chief,
though
again
last
Eden
cycle,
oh
yeah,
so
in
case
it
wasn't
very
clear.
The
funding
distribution
has
is
proposed
to
change
this
cycle.
So
even
if
you're,
not
elected
as
a
level
one
delegate,
you
can
still
earn
a
share
of
the
funding
distribution
by
showing
up
to
these
circles,
doing
work
and
then
getting
rewarded
by
your
peers
every
week.
A
So
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
make
that
very
clear
and
like
Moe
and
Gabriel
encourage.
You
know,
encourage
you
guys
to
show
up
to
these
circles.
If
you
want
to
contribute
in
various
aspects
of
Eden
experiment,
I,
guess:
okay,
should
we
invite
Patrick
at
this
time
or
are
there
other
people
that
want
to
talk
before
we
hand
over
control
to
Patrick.
H
A
Right,
Patrick
I
think
we're
ready.
Congratulations
on
being
elected,
Chief
delegate,
glad
to
see
you
being
able
to
elect
it
at
that
position
and
yeah.
If
you
want
to
share
a
few
words,
we'd
love
to
hear
them.
H
Yes,
first
time,
yeah
baby
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
me.
It's
just
like
normal
I
just
want
to
continue
what
what
I
do
always
so
I
am
very
honored
to
be
with
Mo
and
Gabrielle,
because
I
think
there
are
very
entrepreneurial.
H
So
on
this
term
seven
we
can
really
continue
to
meet
to
to
do
all
what
was
settled
on
the
last
term
on
the
right
way
and
I
think
we
have
different
skill
sets
that
are
very
interesting.
H
The
three
CDs
and
we
have
our
first
meeting
on
Tuesday
already
on
Monday
I,
was
with
MO
produced
the
video
of
this
weekend.
You
have.
The
I
will
put
push
Again
the
video
here
because
that's
lost
with
all
these
messages,
so
that
was
the
election
of
this
Saturday.
That
was
a
good
election.
For
me.
All
was
going
fine.
The
budbot
was
working
well,
hopefully
because
the
the
UI
is
not
always
perfect,
so
you
have
the
upward
Bots.
H
We
were
very
well
helped
with
with
that,
so
yeah
I
just
want
to
to
do
exactly
what
I
stated
into
my
first
round
my
second
round
and
then
into
the
main
room.
I
stated
three
times
the
same
thing,
because
I
want
to
do
exactly
what
I
say
so
I
hope
I
will
be
able
to
do
so
on
this
term
and
I
I
joined
really
what
Gabrielle
stated.
H
We
need
people
joining
the
working
groups
and
giving
part
of
their
funds
to
the
to
the
working
groups.
That's
like
a
mutual
fund
and
we
use
the
money
that
we
have.
We
don't
ask
money
to
someone
else.
We
use
the
money
that
we
have
and
we
help
us
each
other
so
more
collaborative
today
there
was
a
knife
call
I
was
there
I
found
out
very
interesting
by
zaison
global
one
hour
call
very
interesting,
so
they
are
on
this
term
different
possibility
to
do
Partnerships
with
aifa
with
other
partners
contractors.
H
H
There
is
a
mind
map
that
is
helping
also
so
I
think
if
you
follow
the
things-
and
you
want
really
to
do
something
helpful,
that's
the
place
to
to
go.
We
don't
waste
time.
We
want
really
to
do
all
what
we
can
on
this
term.
I
am
very
confident.
That's
all
what
I
want
to
say
not
too
much
discussion
now.
I,
don't
like
that.
I
want
really
to
do
the
work
and
continue
with
Lenny
and
and
more
cutting
place
on
top
six.
That's
all
what
I
want.
Thank
you
all.
A
Right,
thank
you,
Patrick,
and
congratulations
to
all
our
new
Chief
delegates.
A
On
my
side,
I
mean
not
much
to
add
to
what
has
already
been
said.
Like
I
said
on
the
last
Fireside
I
showed
up
to
the
election,
I
was
actually
in
the
same
room
as
Mo,
and
since
he
announced
that
he
was
running
again,
definitely
wanted
to
vote
for
Mo
to
show
support
for
the
New
Direction
that
he
has
proposed
for
Eden.
A
Anyone
else
from
the
crowd
here
want
to
jump
in,
say
a
few
words
Now's.
The
Time.
D
Hey
everyone:
this
is
dancing
Joy
I
wanted
to
encourage
everybody
thanks
chiffon
for
hosting
and
great
to
hear
from
Gabriel
and
Patrick
and
Moe
I
want
to
encourage
everybody
to
watch
the
video
that
Patrick
shared
of
the
Eden
election
term.
We
had
a
very
interesting
discussion
and
I
shared
some
reasons
why
I
wasn't?
There
was
some
concerns
about
the
bylaw
proposal
and
encourage
everybody
to
check
that
out
and
think
it
through
and
I'm.
D
Wondering
Moet
said
that
he's
happy
that
it's
ratified
so
I'm
wondering
if
it
is
if
it
has
been
ratified,
the
bylaws
that
have
been
proposed
and
then,
if
not
I,
think
that
most
of
there's
a
meeting
on
Thursday,
it's
still
18
UTC
at
the
time
for
the
the
general
E9
EOS
meeting,
so
I'm
wondering
if
the
chief
delegates
are
open
to
modifying
the
bylaws
and
not
ratifying
them
as
such
and
taking
Community
feedback
into
account.
D
G
You
hey
Dan,
no
I
I
was
mentioning.
I
was
happy
that
the
community
ratified
the
direction
by
voting
for
us
who
were
all
aligned
in
that
direction.
The
bylaws
have
not
been
ratified.
Yet,
as
I've
commented
earlier,
we
want
the
the
community
to
continue
having
input
on
the
bylaws.
The
dispute
resolution
and.
G
D
Okay
and
thanks
Mo,
so
is
the
best
place
to
discuss
these
things
at
the
by
law,
working
group
or
at
the
delegate
meetings,
and
could
you
just
maybe
share
the
times
that
people
could
come
to
these
meetings
to
discuss
them.
G
The
the
timing
for
the
bylaw
meetings
has
not
been
established,
yet
we're
hoping
to
form
the
working
groups
in
the
coming
week.
So
we
would
encourage
everyone
to
fill
out
the
documents
that
Gabriel
has
made
available
and
yeah.
The
bylog
working
group
would
be
the
place
to
to
be
involved
in
that
part
of
the
process.
D
Okay
sounds
good.
Thank
you.
I'm
also
wondering
too,
if
there's
been
any
discussion
about
the
moderation
of
the
Eden
on
EOS
group,
if
there's
a
place
where
we
can
discuss,
that
is
that
in
the
median
comms
group
you
think
or
most.
G
Likely
that's
being
discussed
as
of
right
now,
but
it's
going
to
be
in
the
governance
or
in
the
content.
Media
Group.
D
Okay,
cool
sounds
good
thanks
for
the
answers
also
interested
in
a
preview.
Well,
so
thanks,
everybody
for
the
election,
I
apprecially
said
that
first,
because
it's
it's
always
very
inspiring
to
see
everybody
come
together
and
encourage
people
to
watch
and
learn
and
discuss
it's
really
cool
stuff
that
the
Eden
Community
is
doing
as
a
whole
and
yeah.
One
thing
I
want
to
mention
was
that
at
today's
Eden
fractal
meeting
we're
discussing
collaborations
or
like
just
different
ways
to
eat.
In
fact
on
Eden
on
EOS
could
work
together.
D
Duane
made
a
proposal
and
we
had
most
discussions.
So
I'll
share
that
in
the
in
the
chat
soon,
once
we
get
that
video
edited
but
looking
forward
to
speaking
about
how
we
can
best
collaborate
to
help
out
the
Eden
and
the
EOS
community
and
the
world
as
a
whole
as
much
as
possible,
and
that's.
G
Appreciated
from
our
part,
what
we
would
encourage
everyone
to
do
is
fill
out
that
the
documents
that
Gabriel
has
made
available
for
everyone
so
that
we
can
start
organizing
these
working
groups
as
soon
as
possible
and
get
them
launched
and
ready
to
go
the
less
time
that
we
waste
the
better
so
I
think
they're
all
already
linked
and
available
in
the
members
channel
of
the
of
Eden
and
remind
everyone
that
once
again,
the
all
delegates
meeting
is
on
Thursday
at
18
ut,
oh
16,
no
18,
UTC,
I'm,
sorry,
18
UTC.
G
We
encourage
all
of
the
delegates
to
be
there
and
then
and
get
caught
up
on
the
information
and
in
all
of
the
current
events
that
are
going
on.
All
the
Eden
members
are
also
welcome
to
join
so
contribute
your
opinions.
G
G
Let
me
just
take
advantage
of
also
given
the
bit
of
Silence.
The
the
documents
that
that
Gabrielle
has
made
available
are
also
for
Eden
members.
So
it's
not
just
the
delegates
that
we
want
to
fill
them
out,
but
all
even
members
in
general
and
the
community
as
well
can
be
active
in
how
the
discussion
goes
revolving
around
either
on
EOS
and
the
Eden
on
EOS
public
Channel
public
telegram
channel.
That
is
still
an
open
and
available
for
people
to
contribute.
G
In
the
Eden
channel,
it's
for
the
for
either
members
and
and
delegates
to
fill
up.
Okay.
A
H
I
just
want
to
masuno
last
plant,
that's
very
smart-
that
we
are
not
ratifying
the
bylaw
just
now
to
complement
what
stated
more
and
the
question
of
dance
enjoy.
H
No,
no,
no
rush.
We
want
to
do
the
things
very
well
organized
I'm
not
going
in
all
directions.
So
that's
as
stated
during
this
weekend
and
it
is
recorded
during
the
Saturday
election.
H
There
is
a
timestamp
about
that.
We
stated
clearly
so
over
the
course
of
the
three
months
so
and
we
have
some
Milestone
to
reach
so
all
that
into
the
18
UTC
meeting
of
this
Thursday
with
Lenny,
but
has
decided
that
is
okay
to
moderate,
the
the
meetings
and
he
will
publish
the
agenda
as
the
last
term.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Patrick
we're
gonna,
leave
it
there
for
this
Eden
election,
all
right,
congrats
once
again,
guys
all
right.
Moving
on
to
our
next
topic,
slightly
related
still
in
the
world
of
Dao's.
At
this
point,
I'd
like
to
invite
Dominic
from
Haifa
Dao
to
give
us
a
bit
of
an
update
on
a
Haifa,
Dao
and
specifically
I'm
curious
about
knowing
more
about
the
tokenomics
and
the
referral
and
affiliate
program
with
Haifa
Dominic
Are.
You
are
you
ready
to
jump
on
stage
here.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
It's
it's
a
nice
opportunity
to
start
talking
about
a
little
more
about
Haifa,
because
we
are
actually
starting
to
move
here
and
and
upcoming,
launch
and
the
coming
weeks.
So
we
don't
have
an
exact
date,
but
it's
it's
it's
pretty
soon.
Here
we
have
a
nice
release
of
the
software
right
now
that
we're
working
in
every
day,
and
so
the
goal
is
to
just
get
a
nice
bug,
free
release
with
the
base
features
and
then
go
from
there
but
yeah.
L
So
we
have
a
bunch
of
opportunities
for
people
who
are
interested
in
helping
out
Haifa
learning
more
about
Dows,
obviously
getting
into
a
dow,
but
we
really
invite
the
EOS
Community
to
participate
as
much
as
possible.
You
know:
Haifa
was
obviously
kind
of
put
our
stake
in
the
ground
here
you
know
the
the
beta
launch
will
occur
on
EOS
mainnet,
so
there
will
be.
You
know
all
the
smart
contracts
and
all
the
software.
L
That's
blockchain
related,
we'll
be
running
on
EOS
and
as
well
as
Telos,
so
there'll
be
kind
of
two
of
the
Coalition
chains
that
we'll
be
running
on,
and
you
know
we.
We
obviously
want
to
want
to
take
care
of
and
work
with,
our
kind
of
like
our
home
Community.
First
and
foremost,
so
we
have
an
affiliate
program
that
we're
just
launching
we've
had
two
meetings.
I
think
Alex
prate,
who
spoke
earlier
today
in
the
zyzen
call
I
believe
he's
been
running.
L
You
know:
Asia
southeast
Asia
districts
of
the
world
I'm
going
to
be
doing
one
in
the
evening
and
like
8,
P.M
Eastern
would
also
serve
as
like
a
after
work
call
for
people
in
the
U.S
and
potentially
I
guess
you
know
just
Eastern
Europe
I'm,
sorry
Western
Europe,
but
this
call
is
designed
for
those
people
on
the
other
side
of
the
world,
so
it's
in
their
morning
and
they
can
get
a
chance
to
participate
too,
but
the
affiliate
programs
pretty
simple.
L
L
That
would
be
terrible
for
the
brand
and
confusing,
of
course,
to
people,
and
we
want
to
you
know
we
want
to
have
that
close
relationship
with
our
Affiliates,
we'll
have
a
channel
in
our
Discord
for
ongoing
communication,
and
it's
a
pretty
robust
program,
I
believe
it's
sitting
at
like
an
11
commission
right
now.
So
you
know
if
you
bring
in
a
project
as
an
affiliate
and
introduce
to
Haifa,
and
that
project
then
goes
on
to
purchase
one
of
our
plans.
L
You
know
you're
going
to
get
an
11
commission
and
that's
going
to
be
Haifa
tokens,
but
I
believe
on
the
plans
where
they're
paying
cash.
That
might
also
still
run
true.
I,
don't
know
if
gab's
still
on
the
call.
He
can
beat
me
up
if
I'm
wrong
or
coordinate
that,
but
nonetheless
it's
definitely
an
11
commission,
and
so,
as
you
can
imagine,
that
could
add
up
pretty
quick.
L
You
know
every
person
who
signs
up
and
becomes
a
member
of
a
Haifa
Dao
on
Telos
or
EOS
main,
not
depending
on
where
the
dial
decides
to
live,
and
we
anticipate
most
will
probably
choose
EOS
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
most
notably
the
liquidity,
but
also
the
large
community.
That's
already
over
there.
So
as
we're
bringing
these
projects
in
and
you're
helping
us
bring
in
projects,
they
may
decide
to
build
on
EOS.
They
may
not
know
where
they're
building
yet
and
then
decide
to
build
on
EOS.
L
They
may
decide
to
build
part
of
what
they're
doing
on
EOS,
but
no
matter
what,
as
these
projects
grow
and
bring
on
members,
that's
going
to
be
nuios
accounts
right,
so
these
are
going
to
be
people
that
are
getting
introduced
to
EOS
and
and
that's
the
only
real
way
that
we're
going
to
create
the
kind
of
value
we
want
and
and
and
see
the
tech
used
right.
You
know,
there's
been
so
much
built.
L
We
just
heard
all
this
phenomenal
information
from
gnome,
and
you
know
my
column,
Guillaume
I,
guess
I,
don't
call
them
gnome,
but
it's
just
a
shame
right.
You
know,
I,
don't
want
us
to
become
beta
to
the
to
the
VHS
of
ethereum
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
35,
Plus,
you'll,
understand
that
analogy
and
others
will
just
think
I'm
old,
but
you
know
the
gist
of
it
being
like.
L
We
know
the
superior
Technologies
here
we've
had
the
best
builders
in
the
world
working
on
this
thing,
but
just
want
to
see
it
used.
You
know
and
and
hats
off
to
the
enf
and
the
soon
to
to
be
live.
Env
I
assume
and
everybody
else
has
been
working
hard,
but
let's
get
it
out
there
and
a
good
way
to
do
that
is
it
is
through
Haifa.
L
We
can
really
all
benefit
from
from
bringing
projects
in.
So
there's
that
and
then
I
think
Stefan
did
you
want
me
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
well,
I,
guess:
there's
the
ambassador
program,
the
Ambassador
programs
say
a
little
less
committed
program,
but
that's
also
a
way
to
get
involved
with
Haifa
earn
some
high
for
tokens,
I
believe
and
and
and
have
a
little
more
access
to
to
what's
going
on
in
regular
updates
and
the
ambassador
program
is
still
a
bit
of
a
work
in
progress.
L
So
we
encourage
people
who
who
want
to
be
a
part
of
it
to
to
come
on
over
and
and
tell
us
what
you
think.
What
can
what
can
we
build
with
this?
How
can
we
make
this
better,
but
you
know
we
see
it
as
people
who
might
like
attend
conferences
and
and
speak
on
behalf
of
Haifa
or
you
know,
evangelize
for
Haifa,
while
you're
there
make
networking
connections
help
with
Partnerships.
L
You
know
sky's
the
limit,
but
we
are
are
running
these
programs
because
we
want
to
give
people
an
opportunity
to
just
be
well
educated
about
it.
So
you
feel
confident
when
you're
talking
about
Haifa
and
again
just
like
with
the
affiliate
program,
making
sure
we're
all
kind
of
singing
from
the
same
hem
sheet
and
speaking
the
same
language
when
it
comes
to
Haifa.
L
On
top
of
that,
too,
I
believe
these
are
going
to
come
with,
like
badges
as
as
part
of
your
membership
in
the
Haifa
Dao
as
an
affiliate
as
an
ambassador,
and
so
you
know
we
hope
over
time
as
Haifa
grows
and
has
more
resources
we'll
be
able
to
increase
those
rewards
in
a
variety
of
ways
and
and
really
enrich
the
community.
It's
an
important
note
that
Haifa
is
not
like
standard
web
3
for-profit
projects.
L
There
is
a
commitment
in
our
constitution
in
the
vast
majority
of
our
documentation,
we're
running
High,
fresna
for-profit
business,
because
we
believe
the
non-profit
model
is
largely
broken
in
many
ways
and
it's
an
incredibly
difficult
way
to
grow
a
project
because
you're
just
Shilling
for
donations.
All
the
time
I
mean
if
you've
ever
worked
in
a
non-profit
or
known
people
who
have
they'll
tell
you
that
half
their
time,
effort,
energy
and
resources
will
just
go
into
getting
more
money
and
that
just
seemed
ridiculous
to
us.
L
So
in
many
ways,
there's
companies
that
are
emerging
that
I
would
say,
are
for-profit
business
model
with
a
non-profit,
Mission
and
a
non-non-profit
set
of
core
values
and
really
a
a
non-profit
profit
sharing
model
right.
So
what
does
that
mean?
Well,
obviously,
there's
no
equity
in
Haifa
we're
a
true
Dao
like.
Were
we
working
it
every
day?
You
know
everything
has
to
go
through
the
Dow.
My
role
goes
through
the
Dow.
The
other
members
of
the
Dow
can
vote
me
out
if
they
think
I'm
terrible
I'm
not
doing
a
good
job.
L
You
know
there
are
no
bosses
but
I
answered
to
the
Dow
and
I
answered
all
the
members
of
the
Dow.
So
in
that
sense
you
know
there's
people
who
hold
Haifa
tokens
and
have
been
rewarded
with
the
Haifa
token,
but
nobody
has
any
stock.
You
know
there's
nothing
like
that
and
so
any
profit
that
we
begin
to
make
that
goes
above
and
beyond.
Our
operating
costs
is
going
to
get
driven
back
into
the
Haifa
ecosystem
and
the
Haifa
community,
and
that
could
be
sizable
over
time.
You
know
that's
something.
L
That's
really
exciting
to
us.
You
know
the
end
game
for
Haifa
really
isn't
so
much
about
the
Dow
software.
It's
about
what
the
Dow
software
enables,
and
that
for
us
is
hopefully
a
gigantic
ecosystem
of
dows
that
are
all
you
know.
Working
together,
have
you
know
multi-layered
relationships,
Financial
professional,
you
know
service
based.
L
You
know
we
want
a
ton
of
funding
organizations
to
be
in
there.
We
have
this
concept
of
something
called
a
service
Dao
and
some
of
you
professionals
out
there
might
be
interested
where
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
program
where,
if
you
want
to
be
a
service
dial,
you
you
speak
to
Haifa,
we
create
a
you
know,
a
sort
of
an
mou
that
we
put
through
both
of
the
dials
and
you're,
basically,
hifa
verified.
So
it's
like
a
hifa
verified
vendor,
and
that
just
means
we
got
to
meet
your
team.
L
L
But
you
know
it's
a
really
a
unique
opportunity
to
kind
of
be
at
the
front
row
of
the
Haifa
community
so
that
as
Dao's
come
in,
you
know
what
I
want
to
be
able
to
do,
because
I
also
do
a
lot
of
sales
for
Haifa
I've
been
on
calls
for
for
weeks
now,
I
want
to
be
able
to
talk
to
these
people
and
say:
oh
yeah.
You
know
this.
L
But
you
know
he
has
this
idea
where
he
wants
to
come
in
and
try
to
implement
this
sort
of
financial
system
start
by
doing
it
within
a
single
dial,
then
build
an
ecosystem
and
so
on,
but
you
know
there's
so
much
that
would
go
into
that
right.
You
know
this
gentleman
obviously
has
a
software
development
background
and
I
think
a
pretty
deep
engineering
mind,
but
you
know
he
doesn't
know
how
to
Market
this
thing
most
likely
he
doesn't
know
how
to
put
together.
L
You
know
all
the
operations
and
teams
and
everything
else
he's
going
to
need,
and
so
there'll
be
a
large
amount
of
service
providers
required
for
the
Dallas
to
thrive.
You
know
we're
putting
the
other
programs
and,
and
hopefully,
as
we
start
to
you,
know,
grow
our
revenues
and
and
grow
our
funding
base.
You
know
we'll
be
adding
to
our
team,
but
the
vision
is
never
for
Haifa
to
become
this
sort
of
massive
monolithic
organization.
That's
the
antithesis
of
what
we're
doing
you
know.
L
We
want
the
community
to
service
the
community
haifa's
just
a
Dao
within
the
community.
You
know
you
can
purchase
Hypha
tokens
and
stake
them
in
order
to
start
an
ecosystem
right.
That
gives
you
something
called
an
anchor
dial.
You
have
a
button
in
that
dial
to
create
more
douse.
It's
basically
a
reseller.
You
know
you
could
set
up
with
one
of
those
the
software's
open
source
and
you
could
start
adding
modifications.
You
could
add
Integrations.
You
could
build
apps
that
go
in
you
know
and
work
with
the
Hypha
dial
software.
That's
awesome!
L
You
know
that's
exactly
what
we
want
to
see.
So
there's
really
a
lot
of
opportunity
here
when
it
comes
to
working
together.
So
I
think
I've
round
my
mouth
long
enough
about
that.
But
it
is
something
I'm
excited
about,
because
when
I,
when
I
heard
about
that
Vision
when
I
joined
Haifa
about
six
months
ago,
that
that
really
pulled
me
in
I
I
think
the
last
part
is
we
do
have
a
new
token
model.
I,
don't
believe,
we've
published
the
documentation,
yet
we
might
be
still
polishing
the
edges
of
it.
L
But
it's
actually
quite
simple.
The
Haifa
token
is
required
for
a
seat
in
a
dow
first
and
foremost.
So
what
does
that
mean?
Well
when
a
dow
wants
to
add
new
members,
it
has
to
stake
five
Haifa
tokens
per
member
right
five
for
tokens.
L
We
sell
the
Haifa
tokens
at
a
dollar
a
piece
right
now
and
we
think
that's
actually
quite
low,
but
hey
we're
brand
new
right,
our
software's
just
coming
out
and-
and
we
want
as
many
people
to
start
using
it
as
possible
over
time,
the
way
in
which
Haifa
will
start
to
get
and
generate
more
funding
in
order
to
do
some
expansion
of
the
team.
L
Of
course,
you
know
we
are
pretty
small
right
now
and
hire
developers
and
so
on
and
pay
for
initiatives
is
we'll
we'll
raise
the
token
price
right,
so
we're
selling
it
for
a
dollar.
Now,
maybe
in
six
months,
we
sell
it
for
a
dollar
fifty,
because
we've
added
new
features
and
there's
Demand,
right
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
so
over
time.
Haifu
will
raise
the
token
price
to
what
we
think
is
an
equivalent
value
of
a
membership
and
a
dow.
Now
five
FIFA
tokens
you're
a
member
and
a
dow.
L
The
cool
part
about
that
is,
it's
only
five
tokens,
so
let's
say
you
join,
you
know
Haifa
dial
and
then
you
join.
You
know.
Patrick's
service,
Dao,
Patrick's
service
down
now
puts
up
two
and
a
half
tokens,
and
Haifa
only
has
to
stake
two
and
a
half
tokens
on
your
behalf.
So
it's
always
five
tokens
that
never
changes,
and
so
it's
really
a
lifetime
seat
for
a
single
member.
L
But
the
way
we
designed
it
is,
we
didn't
want
Dows
to
compete
for
members
in
any
way
right,
and
so
we
set
it
up
so
that
it's
really
kind
of
a
Cooperative
model
where,
if
I
have
100
members
and
each
of
those
members
are
members
of
you
know
three
other
Dows,
then
I
only
have
to
put
up
I
just
came
up
with
a
dumb
number
but
I
think
it's
like
1.333
or
1.666.
That's
all
I
have
to
put
up
for
tokens
for
each
of
my
Hundred
members,
because
they're
members
and
other
dials
and
so
on.
L
So
it's
a
really
neat
model.
I
think
it's
packed
with
value.
It's
not
your
standard
web
3
token
model.
It's
not
designed
to
be
some
thousand
X.
We
we
do
sell
tokens
in
bulk
for
people
who
might
be
interested
and
I'm
sure.
Other
people
want
to
kill
me
for
saying
it's,
not
a
thousand
X
token,
but
it
isn't.
That's
not
the
point
of
it.
The
point
of
it
is
a
true
utility
token.
It's
required
to
put
somebody
in
a
dow
to
add
a
member
to
your
Dow.
L
L
So
you
get
two
things
with
that:
you
get
the
1100
prepaid
seats
and
the
ability
to
now
create
your
own
dials
in
your
own
ecosystem,
and
the
benefits
of
that
will
expand
over
time
right
now,
they're
relatively
simple,
but
in
time
we'll
have
things
like
an
ecosystem
can
have,
instead
of
just
a
token
for
each
Dow,
it
can
have
an
ecosystem
token
that
all
of
the
dials
can
share.
That
might
act
as
a
currency
or
a
unit
of
trade
or
or
a
utility
token
or
whatever.
L
But
once
you
have
that
anchor
dial,
5500
tokens,
you
can
create
new
dials
and
those
are
staked
at
550
tokens
but
again
come
with
another
110
prepaid
seats,
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
you're
you're
able
to
just
keep
adding
these
dials
to
your
ecosystem
and
you
can
do
whatever
you
want.
You
know
you
might
make
dials
and
then
charge
people
a
fee
to
operate
in
the
Dow
and
maybe
you're
going
to
support
them
in
different
ways
or,
like
I
said
earlier.
L
L
Maybe
you
provide
some
service,
maybe
you're,
creating
an
incubator
or
an
accelerator.
That's
a
really
cool
model.
That's
something
that
Eden's
actually
potentially
going
to
do
here
that
we're
exploring
where
Eden
will
become
an
anchor
now
and
have
its
governance
and
so
on
and
there,
but
then
each
project
that
comes
in
to
an
incubator
or
accelerator
type
situation
or
a
funding
situation.
L
Eden
will
put
up
the
tokens
for
them
to
have
a
dow
and
so
now
they've.
You
know
this.
This
new
startup
has
an
organization.
You
know
us
an
organizational
setup
where
they
can.
You
know,
obviously
do
governance
and
proposals
and
payroll,
and
you
know
all
the
different
functions
that
are
available
in
a
high
for
dial,
with
all
that
transparency
and
decentralized
decision
making.
So
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
really
exciting
way.
There's
lots
of
ways
to
get
engaged.
L
We
will
also
have
a
standalone
software
as
a
service
plan
and
a
free
plan.
The
free
plans
for
up
to
five
members.
So
any
of
you
who
are
considering
experimenting,
reach
out
I'll
get
you
set
up
into
a
into
a
dial,
we'll
get
you
activated
and
you
can
start
experimenting
and
and
seeing
what
you
can
come
up
with
and
and
whether
or
not
you
want
to
pursue
it
further.
The
SAS
plans
start
at
like
forty
four
dollars
and
basically
they
come
with
a
certain
amount
of
core
members
and
secondary
members.
L
I
won't
go
deep
with
that
for
this
conversation,
but
I
think
I've
talked
enough,
I
mean
why
don't
I
just
leave
it
there
Stefan
and
and
if
anybody
has
any
questions,
I
can
answer.
A
That
was
great
thanks
for
that
great
clear
explanation.
Token
model
seems
interesting
to
me
looking
forward
to
reading
a
light
paper
or
some
more
information
on
that.
Anyone
else
have
some
questions
for
Dominic
Now's,
the
Time.
A
All
right
we're
gonna
leave
it
there.
Thank
you
Dominic
for
joining
us
today
and
thanks.
A
Soon
enough,
I'm
sure
yeah,
thank
you
guys
have
a
good
day.
I
guess
final
final
news
here
about
ihai
without
the
webinar
was
today
I
think
it
was
at
the
same
time
as
The
Far
Side,
so
unlikely
you
guys
were
listening
to
both
shows
at
the
same
time,
but
it
will
be
available
on
replay.
So
you.
H
I,
just
put
it
into
the
chat
now
I
was
participating,
participating
there.
There
you
go.
How
was
it
Patrick
to
say
what
said
the
Dominic
in
one
hour,
they
have
made
a
really
a
good
overview
and
also
into
the
detail.
What
is
if
what
is
the
place
to
regulate
solutionstein
for
lvc,
so
they
confirmed
that
they
themselves
they
have.
They
are
regulated
there
so
and
the
the
that
was
hosted
by
zaison
global
by
Adam.
H
A
A
What
else
do
we
have?
Oh,
yes,
that's
right.
Twitter
spaces
tomorrow,
hosted
by
the
enf,
we're
talking
about
the
future
of
nfts
on
EOS
we've
got
I'll,
be
joining
the
call.
We've
got
Rob
Rico
from
facings,
which
we've
heard
from
a
couple
times
recently
on
the
far
side
as
well
as
Granite
from
collectify,
which
is
a
new
app
that
has
or
or
it's
an
app
that
has
recently
integrated
the
EOS
evm.
A
So
I'm,
looking
forward
to
asking
more
questions
and
understanding
more
about
this
app
to
Granite
tomorrow,
if
you're
interested
in
nfts,
if
you
have
a
project
on
EOS
that
has
nfts
join
us,
the
the
mic
will
be
open
for
people
who
want
to
jump
on
with
us
share
some
comments.
Share
their
projects
and
yeah
should
be,
should
be
a
good
time
with
some
some
great
guests
talking
about
nfts
on
EOS.
A
All
right-
and
that
was
one
of
the
quick
hitters
another
quick
hitter
topic
here-
I'm
going
to
share
a
thread
from
pinax
talking
about
fire
hose
and
substreams
for
the
antelope
ecosystem.
So
we
talked
about
this
a
couple
times
on
recent
firesides,
basically,
fires
and
fire
hose
and
substreams
is
new
technology.
That's
going
to
enable
dap
developers
to
build
great
apps
on
Antelope,
with
through
the
fire
hose
and
substreams
stack,
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
over
this
thread
real
quickly.
A
It
shares
a
bunch
of
links
to
a
bunch
of
relevant
resources
if
you're
new
to
fire
hose
and
substreams.
Possibly
it's
the
first
time
you
hear
about
this.
It
is.
It
is
new.
We
have
just
started
talking
about
this,
so
let's
get
into
it.
This.
The
thread
starts
with:
let's
unleash
fire
holes
and
substreams
for
the
antelope
ecosystem,
a
high
speed,
blockchain
protocol,
that's
Antelope
meets
a
top
tier
web3
standard
for
indexing,
blockchain
data,
that's
fire
hose
and
substreams.
A
It's
a
match
made
in
heaven,
so
Antelope
IO,
of
course,
processes;
transactions
at
lightning,
speed
and
minimal
cost
home
to
Leading
game
5
apps
like
Upland
and
alien
worlds.
It's
generating
loads
of
data
and
so
we're
introducing
fire
hose
and
substreams,
and
this
data
gets
easily
accessible,
so
web3
devs
can
dream
big,
while
the
antelope
ecosystem
already
has
some
blockchain
history.
Solutions
there's
room
for
improvement
diffuse,
for
instance,
is
constantly
to
operate
and
it
and
that
impacts
its
widespread
use,
reliability
and
decentralization
fire
holes
and
substreams
will
offer
more
flexibility.
A
Viral
substance
use
is
built
by
streaming
fast
and
it's
the
evolution
of
diffuse
and
represent
a
giant
leap
forward
for
data
indexing.
This
technology
is
now
chain
agnostic.
The
fuse
used
to
be
only
for
Antelope,
but
fire
holes
and
substreams
is
now
available
on
many
different
blockchain
ecosystems
and
it's
gaining
adoption
across
all
of
web3.
The
future
of
blockchain,
of
course,
is
multi-chain.
Eos
has
been
getting
ready
for
it.
This
is
another
piece
of
that
puzzle.
A
A
Substreams
have
many
benefits
for
developers.
It's
composable
devs
can
build
on
top
of
each
other's
works.
It's
parametizable
gets
specific
details
from
other
sub
streams.
Transformable
allows
you
to
define
the
output
format
of
your
choice
and
parallelizable
data
is
processed
in
chunks
and
results
gets
merged.
So
if
you're
building
on
Antelope-
and
you
want
to
start
using
fire
hose
and
substreams,
you
can
dive
deeper
with
this
video
from
Matthew
Darwin.
A
A
He
was
on
the
Fireside
not
too
long
ago
talking
from
his
perspective
about
why
he's
excited
about
substreams
and
fire
hose
I'll
share
that
video
here
as
well,
and
then,
of
course,
some
other
information
you
can
find
in
that
thread
linking
to
other
threads
and
stuff
like
that.
So
just
wanted
to
remind
you
guys
about
fire
hose
and
substreams
and
yeah
then
he's
with
us
today.
If
anyone
has
any
questions,
yeah
feel
free
to
ask
some
fire
hose
and
sub
streams.
Questions
we've
got
Danny
with
us
here.
F
Is
so
sub
streams
and
Firehouse
is
sort
of
a
streaming
service,
so
it
uses
grpc,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
applications
that
are
building
the
games
or
that
want
that
sort
of
instant
response
from
the
blockchain
have
a
need
for
either
websockets
or
sort
of
web
hooks.
So
I
would
be
really
curious
to
know
how
many
applications
that
are
looking
for
sort
of
real-time
streams
of
blockchain
data
and
what
are
the
requirements.
F
So
we
hear
a
lot
of
people
that
want
sort
of
websocket
streams
of
what's
happening
on
the
blockchain
based
on
their
smart
contract
and
that's
something
that
substreams
can
deliver
we're
still
kind
of
early
on
that
type
of
tech
stack.
But
it
is
essentially,
you
can
build
streaming
services
of
your
Live
Events
from
your
contract,
so
it'd
be
really
curious
to
know
which
games
are
trying
to
build
a
high
frequency
event.
Blockchain
gaming
and
we'll
be
we'll,
be
glad
to
help
them
out.
A
F
We're
playing
all
of
EOS
in
like
I,
don't
know
under
an
hour,
let's
say
so
one
of
the
things
with
blockchain
history
or,
let's
say
like
fetching
data
from
blockchain.
Is
it's
a
moving
monolithic
piece
of
database
right,
so
the
yeah?
If
you're,
if
you're
familiar
with,
let's
say
we're
trying
to
replay
the
entire
history
of
a
blockchain,
it
does
take
an
eternity,
so
some
solutions
would
kind
of
do
it
linearly.
F
It
would
process
the
chain
from
block
zero
to
one
two,
three
four
five
and
it
would
essentially
compute
the
blockchain
from
zero
to
the
latest
block
and
that
would
literally
take
and
even
a
month.
Actually
it
is
calculated
in
months
and
not
in
days
or
hours.
So
with
substream
we
can
kind
of
do
a
lot
of
like
parallel
processing
and
we're
getting
down
into
processing,
I,
think
ethereum.
F
Again,
ethereum
has
less
less
transactions,
it
has
less
blocks
because
of
the
block
speed,
but
I
think
we
can
process
ethereum
in
15
minutes
and
I.
Think
EOS
is
in
the
three.
Maybe
Matthew
has
that
number
exactly,
but
it's
about
in
the
three
hours,
which
means
that
you
can
process
all
the
events
on
that
particular
blockchain
in
parallel
and
receive
all
your
data,
then
you
can
either
load
it
into
a
flat
file
or
into
a
database.
F
So
one
of
the
things
that
would
be
really
cool
is
to
try
to
get
to
see
how
fast
we
can
replay
the
EOS
blockchain
from
block
zero
to
block
today
and
see
how
fast
we
can
get.
That
and
I
think
we
can
probably
do
about
under
an
hour,
but
at
the
moment
we're
at
three
to
four
hours.
So
it's
and
if
you're
looking
into
replaying
an
entire
blockchain
in
in
hours.
It's
actually
extremely
fast,
because
there's
a
lot
of
data
and
a
lot
of
blocks.
A
For
those
numbers,
I
always
love
hearing
about
those
impressive
numbers
and
Matthew's
not
with
us
here
today,
but
we'll
we'll
keep
everyone
updated
on
the
various
benchmarks
that
this
new
technology
achieves,
as
it
gets
refined
over
time.
A
Yeah
yeah,
no,
that's
good
thanks
for
jumping
in
yeah,
so
we're
gonna
move
on
to
our
final
topic
here.
Just
really
quickly.
I
want
to
highlight
everything.
Eos
June
report
has
been
published.
If
you've
missed
the
last
couple
of
fire
signs,
you
can
catch
up
on
all
the
biggest
stories
of
last
month.
In
this
report
we're
talking
the
five
year
anniversary
celebration
that
happened
at
the
start
of
June
there's
also
a
recap
of,
of
course,
the
EOS
evm
version.
A
0.5
that's
been
released,
talk
a
bit
about
a
couple
podcasts
that
he
was
on,
including
real
vision
and
the
wave
act
podcast.
That
sack
was
on
pomelo
season,
six
updates
and
wrapping
it
up
with
a
review
of
the
BP
call
that
happened
last
month.
That
was
pretty
exciting,
so
that's
gonna
wrap
up
the
topics
I
had
planned
for
today.
At
this
point,
we're
gonna
open
up
the
mic
for
the
community.
If
you
guys
have
updates
you
want
to
share
with
us.
M
J
M
What
we
ready.
H
That's
the
21
Workshop
very
busy
with
the
bees,
with
effect
Force,
Jesse
heises
of
effect
Force.
We
have
pomelo
Daniel
keys
and
of
season
six,
and
we
will
speak
a
little
about
season,
seven
for
sure.
So
that's
just
an
EOS
Dean,
also
that's
just
three
guests,
but
what
those
three
guests
have
in
common
in
in
common.
It's
all
about
also
hidden
onions.
There
will
be
a
parenthesis
in
every
interview
and
I
begin.
The
interview
next
week
and
I
will
publish
that
on
July
24th
until
July
28th.
H
The
fourth
interview
will
be
published
every
day,
one
video,
not
in
one
time,
but
in
a
week-long
multimedia
experience
that
will
use
charge
GPT
summary
with
Jesse
jaffee.
That
will
use
a
mid
Journey
that
will
be
published
on
by
wire.
So
that's
the
21
Workshop
and
you
can
join
on
YouTube
NOVA
crypto
LTD.
You
see
on
the
image
so
very
well
organized
as
always
trade
to
the
point,
not
waste
of
time.
Video
of
30
minutes
maximum
40
minutes
all
time
stamped
and
you
will
learn
as
always
about
how
does
project
beneficios
and
benefits.
A
G
A
H
H
D
Okay,
cool
thanks,
I've
just
been
wondering,
and
maybe
it's
been
covered.
I
know,
like
I've,
learned
a
lot
about
the
evm
and
how
it
has
full
RPC
compatibility
and
stuff
like
that
and
I'm
wondering
what
the
process
is
like
to
I
guess,
onboard
apps
that
have
evm
Integrations
with
other
trains
onto
EOS,
for
example,
looking
into
places
like
websites
basically
and
services
that
help
people
run.
Events
like
there's,
Luma,
lu.ma
and
there's
Mighty
networks
and
several
others
that
have
Integrations
with
evm
and
they
have
Integrations
with
ethereum.
D
Maybe
polygon
and
stuff,
like
that
and
I'm
wondering
if
I
want
to
use
those
services
but
use
them
with
the
evm
would
be
the
process
to
do
that
like
is
it
pretty
simple
to
hook
up
and
is
there
anyone
at
the
enf
that
I
should
reach
out
to
or
should
I
just
reach
out
to
the
companies
directly
I'd
appreciate
any
guidance
about
like
there's
a
lot
of
amazing
evm
tools.
I
know
you
mentioned
collectify,
which
I
looked
internal,
it's
really
cool
but
to
do
more
apps
that
have
ebm
but
haven't
yet
worked
with
EOS
evm.
D
A
Is
Zach
still
with
us
I
feel
like
that's
a
nice
classic
exact
question,
but
I
don't
think
he
is
from
what
I
understand
the
apps
themselves
need
to
enable
the
EOS
evm
from
their
app
for
us
to
be
able
to
use
it
through
the
ercvm.
So
I,
don't
think
you
could
do
that
on
your
own.
A
You
know,
but
so
so
what
you
need
to
do
is
you
need
to
convince
these
apps
to
enable
the
you
know,
CBM
so
reach
out
to
the
dabs,
send
them
information
about
the
EOC
VM
incentive
program
that
is
going
on
for
the
enf
right
now,
and
so
they
get
to
fill
out
a
form
and
then
they
could
potentially
qualify
for
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
funding
if
they
enable
the
EOS
evm
in
their
app
right,
so
that
can
cover
whatever
development
cost
they
may
incur
hopefully,
and
then
leave
some
extra
for
extra
incentives
for
them
to
come.
A
E
Am
still
here
but
I
I
didn't
really
understand
the
question.
If,
if
you
mind
asking
again
I'll
gladly
answer
I,
just
I
didn't
really
understand
what
sure.
A
E
E
Yes
correct,
so
we
we've
got
a
list
of
and
I
think
you
shared
a
few
earlier,
like
Moto
decks,
nerve
I
think
was
another
one.
You
shared
we've
got
about
15
to
18..
E
Some
of
them
are
public,
so
I'm,
not
sure
I.
Think
it's
15
or
public
there's
a
few
more
that
are
in
the
mix,
does
I
think
there's
six
pending
games
right
now.
I
actually
signed
another
one
this
morning.
So
there
are
incentives,
but
we've
seen
there
are
especially
the
wallets
and
and
the
bridges
there
are
some
that
just
enabled
it
because
they
see
an
opportunity.
D
E
It's
actually
the
opposite,
so
the
the
I'm
oversimplifying,
but
it's
just
bear
with
me.
They
literally
need
to
double
click,
so
the
development
cost
is
very,
very
low.
The
majority
of
the
money
that
typically
they're
asking
for
or
that
we're
making
available
is
for
marketing
it's
to.
E
Let
people
know
that
they've
now
switched
over
and
they've
enabled
or
they're
now
compatible
with
with
EOS,
and
so
it's
more
marketed
marketing
budget
than
anything
else,
so
so
the
actual
cost
to
enable
evm
on
their
end
because
it's
full
RPC
compatible
is
is
minimal,
which
is
why
we've
also
been
able
to
get
people
to
to
basically
come
over
Port
over
without
any
cost,
because
there's
minimal
cost
they
just
deploy
their
smart
contract
so
I'm
over
simplifying
with
double
click.
But
it
gives
you
an
idea,
it's
very,
very
simple.
D
Okay,
awesome.
Thank
you.
So
much
Eve
really
appreciate
all
the
information,
and
that
sounds
great
there's
a
bunch
of
great
evm
tools,
I
love
to
work
with
EOS
and
with
EOS.
This
was
one
thing
that
just
came
to
mind:
I,
don't
think
it
exists,
but
I'm
curious,
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
read
into
all
the
EOS
evm
incentive
program.
Is
there
any
incentive
like
Dominic,
was
talking
more
like
an
affiliate
program
where
people
could
earn
by
helping
attract
people
to
Haifa?
H
Forward
yeah
can
I
jump
in
so
if
you
read
it
yeah.
Thank
you.
If
you
read
the
purpose
paper
of
term
six,
that's
exactly
what
we
stated
so
either
one
to
partnership.
Collaborate,
if
you
prefer,
with
aifa,
for
example,
in
total
partnership,
but
with
EOS
evm
or
with
any
platforms
that
benefit
yours
is
also
a
platform,
is
building
a
platform
and
I
live
at
that,
but.
E
Gonna
answer
I
guess
from
enf
point
of
view:
no,
we
don't
have
a
program
for
that
Dogman.
We
do
I.
Guess
if
you
let's
say
you
brought
an
application
and
you're
working
with
an
application.
That
would
be
something
that
you
would
need
to
coordinate
with
them.
Should
they
you
know,
should
they
be
recipients
of
some
type
of
funding
or
or
compensation
for
that
you
would
need
to
work
with
them,
but
we
don't
have
a
program
as
such
and
we
do
not
have
intention
on
creating
a
program
as
such.
E
And
just
for
clarification
in
case
there's
some
some
confusion,
so
it's
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
is
what
we're
making
available
for
these
ports.
The
majority
of
the
applications
that
have
ported
that
have
already
been
made
public
have
not
received
fifty
thousand
dollars.
As
I
said,
the
the
the
actual
cost
itself
of
porting
over
is
very
low,
so
it's
really
dependent
on
each
application
and
we
make
very
similar
to
what
we
do
with
the
grant
framework.
E
It's
Milestone
based
they've
got
some
targets
to
hit.
You
know
certain
things
like
apis,
like
uaws
interaction,
engagement,
there's
a
bunch
of
different
things
that
go
into
this.
So
it's
not.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
guaranteed
it's
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars,
Case
by
case
basis,
depending
on
the
application
and-
and
we
are
very
much
targeting
specific
types
of
applications
to
it.
So
it's
just
not
anything
and
everything,
and
it
is
possible
that
it
is
simply
not
with
the
focus
of
of
what
we're
looking
to
onboard.
A
All
right,
I
think
we're
going
to
wrap
it
up
here.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
joining
thanks
to
all
our
guests
and
all
the
speakers
that
joined
the
show
today
hope
you
enjoyed
it.
I
hope
you
learned
something
I'm
sure
you
did
there's
a
lot
of
great
information
shared
today
and
yeah.
We're
gonna
wrap
it
up.
There
hope
you
have
a
good
week
and
until
next
time
let's
go.