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This week the Fireside community gets updates on all the current projects including EVMxIdeathon, ENF global conferences, NovaJoy, Pomelo S4, Defibox, Atomic Hub, and much more!
00:00:00 Welcome to the EOS Fireside Chat by Stephane
00:04:40 EVMxIdeathon / Hackathon 1st place project by Mark
00:25:50 ENF global conference tour update by Rhett
00:39:33 EOSETF CETF project update by Vlad
00:50:02 NovaCrypto rebranded to NovaJoy by Patrick
00:56:00 The EOS Network Ventures (ENV) by Stephane
00:57:00 Pomelo Season 4 grant applications and new features by Stephane
01:10:36 Defibox Vault Stake EOS by Stephane, Zack, Denis
01:31:35 Unlockable content on Atomic Hub by Stephane
01:35:22 FIFA World Cup and Sports betting by Stephane
01:40:17 Community banter
01:50:29 Greymass SDK update by Aaron
01:59:00 Community banter
02:18:22 Go EOS!
02:18:37 End
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A
A
Also,
a
grant
and
Pamela
we'll
be
hearing
from
Mark
we'll
be
hearing
from
rep
from
zaisan,
give
some
updates
on
the
recent
conferences
that
he's
been
attending
on
behalf
of
the
EOS
Network
Foundation
and
the
EOS
Community
we'll
be
sharing
a
bit
of
information
about
other
winners
from
the
ideathon.
We'll
also
be
talking
about
pomelo
big
week
for
pomelo.
Of
course.
A
Today,
donations
are
open
and
lots
more
to
talk
about
pomelo
I'll
be
announcing
the
second
EOS
Community
poker
tournament
gonna,
be
on
Sunday
December
18th
We've,
also
talking
about
an
update
on
Atomic
Hub
with
some
unlockable
content,
which
is
very
exciting.
Why
not
talk
about
FIFA
as
well?
Of
course,
FIFA
just
started.
A
This
Week
Canada
is
playing
right
now
actually,
and
then
we
have
Vlad
from
EOS
ETF,
that's
going
to
be
talking
about
his
project
and
give
some
updates
about
D5
boxes,
Vault
product
that
was
released
this
week,
all
right
so
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know,
EOS
is
a
layer,
one
smart
contract
platform
that
is
governed
by
its
Community.
It's
the
only
crypto
that
has
had
Foundation
emerge
organically
from
within
the
community
years
after
the
launch
of
the
network.
Since
the
creation
of
the
EOS
Network
Foundation.
A
One
year
ago,
the
new
EOS
has
seen
an
incredible
acceleration
of
progress
and
Innovation.
The
EOS
Network
Foundation
has
built
an
excellent
team.
That's
been
able
to
quickly
establish
essential
Frameworks
that
empower
the
EOS
Community
to
do
its
best
work
and
live
its
best
life
through
foundational
initiatives
like
the
recognition
grants,
the
blue
paper,
research
series,
The
pomelo,
crowdfunding
platform,
the
direct
investment
framework
and
the
ongoing
EOS
Roadshow.
The
community
has
been
activated
and
energized
two
levels
not
seen
since
the
launch
of
the
network.
A
Many
of
these
initiatives
are
starting
to
Blossom,
such
as
the
recent
success
of
recover,
plus
the
ongoing
promotions
surrounding
yield
plus
and
the
many
D5
protocols
that
are
taking
advantage
of
it
and,
of
course,
the
launch
of
pomelo
season
4,
which
has
been
very,
very
successful
and
very
engaged
so
far.
Eos
is
in
the
midst
of
an
epic
narrative
reversal
and
the
new
EOS
has
the
potential
to
become
the
greatest
crypto
comeback
story
of
all
time.
A
My
name
is
Stefan
I'm,
one
of
the
co-founders
of
EOS
Nation,
currently
a
top
ranked
block
producer
on
EOS
and
other
Antelope
chains
and
I'm
happy
and
honored
to
be
your
host
for
today.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
for
joining
us
we've
already
got
over
40
people
in
the
chat
live
with
us
on
Discord,
that's
great
to
see.
If
you're
here
on
Discord,
we
invite
you
to
share
your
thoughts
comments.
A
Questions
join
us,
live
on
air
share
your
thoughts
in
the
text
chat
in
the
in
this
channel
and
shout
out
to
everyone
listening
on
YouTube
Twitter,
Facebook,
whether
it's
live
or
on
the
replay.
We
appreciate
you
watching
the
Fireside.
We
appreciate
you
being
engaged
in
the
Eos
community
and
we
invite
you
to
join
the
Discord
server,
so
you
can
get
in
here
with
us.
Live
in
the
action
on
Discord
today,
we'll
be
off.
Obviously
talking
about
EOS,
but
also
the
antelope
ecosystem.
A
Antelope
is
the
name
for
the
community-owned
blockchain
software,
the
powers,
a
variety
of
Highly
performing
blockchain
networks
such
as
EOS
Telos,
wax
ux
and
many
others
alright.
Before
we
get
into
the
good
stuff
a
bit
of
housekeeping
a
reminder
to
state
your
name,
When
jumping
on
the
mic
helps
helps
everyone
kind
of
be
more
aware
of
who's.
Talking.
Of
course,
we
love
it
when
you
share
picks
and
memes
in
the
text
chat.
A
So
you
can
create
your
customized
Discord
server,
invite
link
and
invite
your
friends
to
the
server
and
earn
some
EOS
and
nft
prizes
for
doing
so
so
we're
up
to
6
362
members
in
the
server
well
on
our
way
to
the
next
Milestone
of
7
000
members,
all
right.
So,
let's
get
this
show
started
with
some
special
guests.
B
B
Yeah,
thank
you
glad
to
be
here.
You
know
me,
as
Mark
snare
of
the
tippet
team
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
something
a
little
bit
different
today
as
the
idea
Thon.
But
to
give
you
a
little
back
story
tip
it
tip.
It
is
sort
of
a
sister
company
to
our
other
company
called
high
five
software,
which
is
been
syncing
with
QuickBook
Solutions.
B
Tippet
and
tippett's
idea
was
just
to
get
people
involved
in
crypto
in
the
easiest
possible
way
and
I
would
say
we
were
successful
with
that,
and
you
know
we
go
through
our
bear
markets
like
we
are
now,
but
there
was
a
time
when
we
had
this
trios
token,
which
had
all
these
people
from
Africa
and
all
over
the
world.
Deal
with
that
and
I
hope
that
stirs
up
again
in
the
future,
but
we
also
you
also
know
us
as
we.
B
We
worked
with
the
bees
to
get
them
bootstrapped
on
their
campaigns
for
sending
out
the
tokens
and
since
then,
they've
been
developing
that
internally,
but
we
got
them
going
initially
for
the
bee
swarms
and
with
working
with
Jesse
one
of
the
things
I
asked
them
was.
Were
you
know?
How
do
you
handle
your
accounting
and
stuff
and
he
said
if
you've
got
a
solution.
B
Let
us
know
so
that
kind
of
planted
the
seeded
me
and
was
coming
around
I,
just
I
just
went
on
and
on
trying
to
think
of
the
right
idea
with
the
right
timing
needed
for
the
market
and
has
struggled
the
whole
time
and
the
idea
found
was
due
at
like
midnight
Sunday
and
finally,
this
idea
came
came
to
me
around
3,
P.M
I,
whipped
together.
The
presentation
did
two
cuts
of
the
the
YouTube
video.
B
The
first
one
was
a
little
too
long
and
then
released
it
and
after
I
got
that
idea
out
there.
It
started
percolating
in
my
head
and
I
started
getting
more
and
more
excited
about
it,
and
then
we
did
the
presentation,
for
we
were
the
one
of
the
top
three
winners
of
the
web.
Three
and
I
listened
to
a
couple
other
of
the
presentations
and
they
were
a
lot
of
tough
questions
like
how
does
it
relate
to
EOS?
And
you
know
how
does
it
work
and
things
like
that?
B
B
Now
we
want
to
bring
in
small
businesses
and
and
support
small
businesses,
because
we
think
that's
a
missing
piece
is
that
you
need
to
be
able
to
do
good
accounting,
so
you
can
handle
your
sales
taxes,
your
income
taxes
and
things
like
that,
and
it's
kind
of
difficult
today
to
translate.
Let's
say
if
you
get
paid
on
pomelo
or
something
for
a
grant,
and
you
need
to
convert
that
EOS
to
your
base,
currency
and
I'll,
just
use
USD
as
the
base
currency
that
most
people
use.
B
So
our
idea
is
to
be
able
to
create
a
framework
that
allows
thinking
between
the
US,
blockchain
and
others
all
the
antelope
blockchains.
The
way
we
did
tip
it
is
that
we
were
able
to
add
new
EOS
Antelope
type
black
blockchains
very
easily,
so
we're
going
to
continue
that
on,
but
we're
going
to
start
with
EOS,
and
the
first
thing
in
accounting
is
what
you
have
is
partner
accounts.
So
QuickBooks
typically
uses
customers
suppliers.
You
know
subcontractors
and
employees,
but
we're
going
to
combine
that
as
partner
accounts.
B
Each
partner
account
is
where
you
set
up
the
the
EOS
accounts
that
are
related
to
each
partner.
So
up,
maybe
I'll
I'll
have
a
partner
account
for
just
general,
like
our
company,
which
is
tippet
manager,
where
we
get
our
pomelo
funds,
that
I'll
be
able
to
track
and
see
all
the
transactions
go
into
that
and
also
all
the
other
partners,
and
the
idea
is
to
be
able
to
use
a
price
Oracle.
B
Make
sure
that
you
get
the
EOS
to
USD
pricing
exactly
right
at
the
exact
right
timing
and
then
take
that
information
every
time.
There's
a
transaction
and
put
it
into
your
QuickBook
online
accounting.
So
we're
really.
Our
high
five
software
company
is
really
experienced
with
syncing,
with
QuickBooks
and
QuickBook
online
and
QuickBook
time,
and
things
like
that.
So
we're
going
to
take
that
experience
and
do
that
syncing
and
we're
going
to
start
out
with
QuickBook
online
because
that's
kind
of
where
Intuit
is
going.
B
We
also,
we
also
support
QuickBooks
desktop
on
our
service
management,
but
for
this
one
we
think
QuickBook
online
will
meet
the
needs.
They
also
have
a
real
good
Marketplace
for
publishing
your
ideas
and
there's
about
three
other
Accounting
Solutions,
but
in
that
Marketplace
of
QuickBook
online,
but
none
of
them
are
related
to
Antelope
or
EOS.
So
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
now.
B
Once
you
have
the
transactions
into
the
system,
then
you'll
be
able
to
sync
those
with
QuickBook
online,
but
we
want
to
extend
that
even
further
and
make
a
framework,
so
other
developers
can
also
build
different
modules
for
the
syncing
Tool.
Some
obvious
ones
that
are
needed
right
away
is
a
point
of
service
point
of
point
of
sale,
POS
type
solution,
so
that
you
could
have
Merchants.
For
example,
let's
say:
let's
say
one
of
the
EOS
bees
makes
money.
B
You
know
with
the
the
bees
thing
and
they
also
own
a
hot
dog
stand
in
Africa
or
something
like
that.
But
we
want
to
provide
a
point
of
sale
solution
where
they'd
be
able
to
take
the
EOS
directly
or
even
pay
their
suppliers
in
EOS
and
keep
in
mind
when
I
say
EOS
I
mean
any
of
the
tokens
could
be
usdt
or
anything.
That's
on
EOS,
as
well
like,
like
tidbit
right,
now
supports
about
80
different
tokens
so
which
I
whatever
tokens
they
want.
B
You
could
do
that,
convert
it
to
the
USD
or
whatever
your
base,
currency
and
sync
that
with
QuickBook
online.
So
what
we
want
to
achieve
through
this
idea
is
to
be
able
to
get
the
full
right
now.
I
think
crypto
is
really
limited
to
investing
speculation
and
things
like
that.
But
we
need
to
get
to
the
point
where
we're
earning
like
USBS
is
one
way.
B
Pomelo
is
another
way
and
also
be
able
to
spend
your
EOS
directly
without
switching
to
Fiat,
so
you'll
be
able
to
go
to
hot
dogs
fan
and
you
know,
buy,
buy
a
hot
dog
or
whatever
employees
being
able
to
take
their
their
salary
and
usdt
or
on
EOS,
and
things
like
that.
So
it's
fairly
simple
idea:
at
the
high
level
we've
already
been
doing
some
of
this
work.
B
And
if
we
do
this,
and
we
also
show
to
the
customer
or
make
the
customer
pay
for
the
transaction,
here's
what
it
would
look
like
is
is,
if
you
pay
an
in
a
credit
card,
the
merchant
has
to
pay
or
you
you
know.
The
End
customer
has
to
pay
three
to
five
percent.
I,
actually
pay
up
to
five
percent
by
the
time
add
in
the
PCI
fees
and
all
those
junk
fees.
In
my
credit
card
company
ads
on
it's
very,
very
expensive
for
small
businesses
for
that.
B
But
if
we
look
at
the
EOS
taking
the
EOS
or
usdt
on
EOS,
you
guys
know.
First
of
all,
it
gets
into
your
account
at
half
a
second
versus
three
days
from
a
credit
card.
The
returns
in
credit
cards
are
horrible,
like
a
customer
could
have
no
reason
for
a
return
and
get
that
money
right
out
of
your
account
and
the
fees
are
are
close
to
zero,
who
are
running
EOS,
so
just
imagine
being
able
to
give
small
businesses
three
to
five
percent,
more
income
to
their
bottom
line
and
incident
money
into
their
their
accounts.
B
I
think
this
could
be
great
for
the
whole
ecosystem
and
I.
Think
the
timing
is
is
ready.
I've
been
getting
great
feedback.
Vincent
I
think
is
on.
The
line
is
look
at
looking
for
something
like
this
they're
using
QuickBook
online
Nathan
James
was
mentioned
it
as
well
Jesse,
and
things
like
that.
So
we're
we're.
Currently
we've
got.
We
got
a
a
bit
of
money
from
the
idea
balance
six
thousand
dollars,
which,
which
kind
of
will
help
us
get
going.
B
A
D
C
Yeah
for
sure,
if
we
can
facilitate
the
extraction
and
bring
down
the
QuickBooks
directly,
I
think
this
is
a
big
need
and
especially
for
all
businesses
using
crypto
and,
like
you
said,
Mark
people
that
want
to
transact
and
then
for
point
of
sale
or
anything
and
then
to
have
an
easy
solution
to
to
extract
the
data
and
bring
that
directly
into
accounting.
Software
I
think
that's
a
good
step
for
adoption
of
crypto.
B
Yeah
and
and
even
getting
the
pomelo
grants
into
the
account
I
I
didn't
really
pay
attention
to
how
the
taxes
are
going
to
work
for
that
and
I
was
thinking
that
I
could
just
go
back.
We
got
a
Telos
Grant,
maybe
three
years
ago,
and
now
I
have
to
go
back
and
find
out
what
was
the
price
of
Telos
when
I
got
that
Grant,
it's
not
as
easy
as
you
think
so,
anyways
that
that
information
would
be
in
the
system
and
immediately
know
the
amount.
A
Yeah
all
right,
so
sapiens
ask
how
do
I
know
who
is
speaking
in
here.
Well,
if
you're
in
Discord,
on
the
left
hand,
side
you'll
see
a
little
growing
green
circle
around
the
icon
for
some
for
the
people
who
are
speaking,
but
it's
also
a
good
idea
for
all
the
speakers
to
introduce
themselves
when
they're
speaking
right
now.
Stefan
is
speaking,
I'm
the
host
of
the
hot
sauce
and
but
we'll
have
a
bunch
of
guests
on
today.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
Steph
everyone.
My
name
is
Chris
Barnes,
and
so
we
had
the
final
ideathon
live
event
on
the
14th,
so
that
went
really
well.
I'm
gonna
put
the
link
to
that
live.
Full
ceremony
was
there.
It
was
three
hours
and
20
minutes
it
as
a
live
event.
It
was
very
nerve.
We
weren't
sure
how
it
was
gonna
go
because
you
know
anything
live
as
we.
E
If
for
those
who
want
to
like
so
that
link
it's
it's
long
but
at
the
very
beginning.
Basically,
that's
all
of
the
live
ideathon
pitches.
So
if
the
first
hour
and
a
half
is
basically
all
of
those,
so
if
you're
curious
to
see
Mark's
pitch,
for
example,
who
just
came
on,
did
a
great
job,
he
was
one
of
them
and
also
just
to
round
up
the
winners
of
the
five
idathon
categories
we
had
on.
E
The
defy
category
was
real
lot
by
Phoenix,
who
is
a
very
active
participant
in
the
community
he's
often
on
these
chats.
So
he
did
a
great
job,
and
that
was
the
defy
topic
and
we
had
social
good,
and
that
was
one
by
Jun
and
his
project
was
the
EOS
Community
key
recovery,
also
a
very
active
and
engaged
even
member
and
EOS
Community
member,
and
then
we
had
for
gov
three.
E
We
had
someone
new
to
the
community
that
I
had
not
seen
his
name
was
Bob
and
he
did
Robert's
rules
on
chain
which
is
pretty
cool,
basically
to
Bringing
the
sort
of
rules,
Robert's
rules
for
doing
a
meeting
basic
Quorum
and
how
you
organize
a
meeting
but
bring
those
bits
on
chain.
So
I
was
neat
to
see
someone
new
to
the
ecosystem,
bring
a
project
and
also
then
win.
E
Then,
in
the
game
fight
category
we
had
marketing
on
Antelope,
and
that
was
one
by
Alfredo
from
the
hook
and
Tech
Team
also
very
engaged
in
the
community
and
then
lastly,
Mark
stare
with
small
business
accounting,
he's
told
us
all
about
it
and
he
won
the
web
3
category
generally.
We
really
saw
a
lot
of
applicants
in
the
web
3
that
when
we
were
deciding
what
categories
to
do
for
the
ideathon,
that
was
one
of
the
ones
on
the
fence
that
what
wasn't
necessarily
that
we
didn't
want
to
have
that
one.
E
But
then
the
idea
that
we
wanted
to
have
a
really
generic
and
Broad
category
to
bring
as
many
possible
entrants
as
we
could
and
it
turned
out.
That
was
the
case.
We
had
almost
40
percent
of
the
total
submissions
were
to
the
web
3
category,
where
game
Phi
actually
had
probably
the
least
participation
and
I
think
because
game
five
is
a
harder
thing
for
folks
to
get
our
heads
around
when
we're
trying
to
think
about
what
works.
E
What
is
game
five
and
what
kind
of
projects
around
there
I'm
assuming
anyway,
but
that
had
the
the
least
amount
of
Engagement
and
then
a
pretty
good
number
for
D5
social,
good
and
gov3
as
well.
So
when
it
comes
to
future
events,
I
think
it
would
be
really
interesting
to
see
what
comes
I'm
going
to
be
creating
a
summary
sort
sort
of
of
the
process,
because
this
was
a
community-led
initiative.
In
fact,
Phoenix
who
won
the
D5
spot
with
real
lot
he's
the
one
who
started
this
whole
thing
with
the
community.
E
E
I,
definitely
encourage
folks
to
check
out
the
the
live
final
showing
and
then,
if
you're,
curious
of
all
the
workshops,
there
was
a
series
of
workshops
that
led
into
that.
Those
are
also
if
you
chase
that
video
into
the
Helios
playlist
you'll
find
a
bunch
of
other
videos
about
basically
how
to
create
an
idea
and
what
to
do
when
you
need
to
make
a
pitch
for
a
pitch
deck.
So
yeah
thanks
everyone
for
participating,
really
great
engagement
during
the
live
event.
Also
for
all
of
those
that
watched
really
appreciate
it.
E
There
was
a
lot
of
live
Watchers
and
that
was
kind
of
encouraging
to
know
that
we
weren't
we
weren't
wasting
our
time
and
people
really
enjoyed
it.
So
so
that
was
cool.
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
thanks
to
all
the
participants
and
to
those
who
didn't
win,
you
know
don't
don't
give
up
on
the
idea.
There
was
some
stiff
competition
there
for
sure
and
I
know.
E
A
lot
of
people
didn't
quite
get
their
ideas
in
submitted
on
time
like
there
was
definitely
a
rush
at
the
end,
so
you
know
don't
maybe
think
about
pomelo
as
a
place
to
follow
up
with
your
idea
and
to
get
it
some
exposure
on
it,
because
there's
definitely
some
Merit
I'm
sure
to
a
lot
of
these
projects
that
didn't
didn't,
win
a
prize
or
just
didn't
get
submitted
so
yeah.
So
that's
the
update.
A
All
right,
great
thanks
for
the
update,
Chris
and
yeah
you,
you
provided
some
fantastic
updates
every
week
on
the
Fireside
I
appreciate
that
you
did
a
really
good
job,
so
congratulations
to
you
and
and
the
whole
team
at
Helios
and
everyone
else
who
was
involved
in
planning,
creating
and
participating
in
this
event,
yeah
I
was
I
was
pleasantly
surprised
by
how
how
well
it
all
it
all
came
together.
So
that
was
great.
A
F
This
is
Andrew.
This
is
Drew
block.
I
just
wanted
to
just
give
a
shout
out
to
the
ideathon
for
being
such
a
cool
idea
and
bringing
so
many
people
from
the
EOS
ecosystem
kind
of
into
the
kind
of
Biddle
equals
ecosystem.
If
you
will
that's
much
appreciated,
it
was
a
lot
of
fun
kind
of
trying
to
on
a
time
crunch,
come
up
with
an
idea
and
try
and
flesh
it
out
as
much
as
possible,
so
I
I
hope
you
got
more
coming.
E
Well,
thanks
Drew,
one
of
the
questions,
Chris
Barnes
again
one
of
the
questions
that
I'd
like
to
know
from
the
community.
First
of
all,
what
could
we
have
done
better,
like
a
definitely
feedback
and
my
DMs
are
all
open.
So
if
you
don't
want
to
speak
up
here
by
all
means,
PM
me
and
because
I'll
include
that
in
the
write-up
for
other
folks
to
then
follow
whether
we
do
like
myself
in
Helios
or
whatever
do
another
one
of
these
or
not,
but
also
what
categories
should
we
have
done?
F
This
is
Andrew
again
just
as
far
as
what
what
I
can
think
of
immediately
I
I
feel
like
the
kind
of
strict
adherence
to
categories
sort
of
allowed
certain
categories
with
very
few
entrants
to
kind
of
have
a
a
different
level
of
completeness
or
whatever.
You
want
to
call
it
compared
to
the
larger
categories.
So
I
don't
exactly
know
what
the
solution
is
for
that,
but
just
a
little
bit
of
feedback.
A
A
G
Thank
you
so
I
try
to
be
here
every
week,
but
if
I'm
not
then
typically
I'm,
traveling
or
there's
some
Logistics
going
on
so
rep
from
zaison
zazen
is
the
name
of
the
company
behind
the
Europe
chain
and
the
Europe
chain
was
spun
up
by
block
producers
from
Europe.
So
that's
crypto
Lions.
It
was
Amsterdam
that
I
found
it
EOS
Dublin
here's
Barcelona
and
Dutch
EOS.
They
are
not
so
active
anymore.
They
only
are
active
on
on
Telos.
G
G
We've
done
now.
10
events
there's
still
one
to
go:
Tech
X
in
London,
December,
1st
and
December
2nd,
and
then
the
schedule
for
this
year
is
done.
We're
working
on
a
schedule
for
next
year
due
to
the
Token
price.
It
will
be
not
as
attentive
as
a
what
we've
done
up
to
up
to
now,
but
we
try
to
do
as
many
as
possible.
G
One
of
the
very,
very,
very
big
advantage
of
doing
this
road
show
is
that
we
learned
we
learned
so
much
on
basically
what's
going
on
in
web
3.
in
blockchain
as
now.
Let
me
start
with
this
web
three
word:
the
fact
that
it's
not
not
called
blockchain
anymore
but
web3
is
such
a
game
changer.
The
fact
that
we
were
talking
about
a
very
technical
word,
blockchain
made
it
yeah
I
made
it
made
it
for
a
lot
of
people.
That
is
this
going
to
happen
or
not.
G
G
G
Clearly
the
market
is
is
becoming
a
lot
more
mature.
The
startup
projects
that
came
by
are
just
more
serious.
They
understand
more.
What
is
possible.
The
Enterprises
are
not
just
tipping
their
toe
in
the
water.
They
are
really
looking
into
projects
where
they
they
understand
blockchain.
They
understand
what
they
can
do
with
it,
and
they
really
want
to
build
something
that
aligns
with
that.
G
G
It
feels
like
it's
inevitable,
especially
with
with
what's
going
on
now
again
with
centralized
exchanges
and
that
could
really
push
Mass
adoption
more
forward
in
the
last
three
months.
Mika
the
Mika
text.
That's
the
European
regulations
have
been
final,
have
been
made
final,
so
we
have
the
official
tax
now.
So
we
can.
We
can
talk
about
that
now
to
to
people
so
overall
yeah
the
web.
The
web
3
word
changes
is
is,
is
I,
think
very,
very
positive.
G
You
could
say
that
in
the
different
regions,
blockchain
is
maturing
in
a
different
pace
in
the
Middle
East,
especially
Dubai.
It's
on
fire
I
would
say
very
close
to
our
booth
was
a
was
an
event
organized
by
somebody
that
I
also
know
he
got
90
Fanta
Capital
funds,
family
officers,
investors
in
general,
together
all
of
them
were
pitching
who
they
were
and
what
kind
of
projects
that
they
were
investing
in
and
around
that
area.
Where
startups
and
others.
G
If
you
talk
to
people,
there's
still
a
lot
of
question
marks
on
certain
technical
areas,
like
user
onboarding,
still
a
big
priority
and
and
not
smooth
enough,
so
a
lot
of
people
are
still
realizing
that
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
building
that
needs
to
be
happening
before
we,
however,
really
smooth
experience
and,
in
general,
everybody's,
basically
waiting
for
this
killer
app.
That
gets
millions
of
users
to
this
web
tech
web3
technology,
but
because
you
see
so
many
people
coming
in
it's
like
like
I
said
it's
not
a
discussion
anymore.
It's
going
to
happen.
G
G
We
added
over
1500
people
in
the
into
the
database
we're
working
this
week
and
next
week
on,
like
a
bigger
evaluation.
What
I
just
gave
you
was
like
my
personal
Impressions,
just
the
first
things
that
that
I
that
I,
that
I
think
of
but
yeah,
that
is
basically
the
first
feedback,
I
would
say,
I
would
share
with
with
this
community.
G
G
Yeah
other
regions-
it's
not
for
me
to
announce,
but
my
impression
was
that
they
are
working
on
expanding
the
program
that
we
we
started.
That
was
also
one
of
the
deliverables
of
what
we
have
been
making.
So
we've
made
a
magazine,
for
example,
that
we
gave
out
at
it
wasn't
finished
at
the
first
trade
shows,
but
at
the
last
ones
we
had
a
magazine
that
we
gave
out
it's
not
online
available.
We
still
want
to
improve
a
little
bit
on
it
before
we.
G
G
G
A
A
H
Nice
so
greetings
everyone,
I'm
Vlad,
one
of
the
developers
of
CTF
I'm,
fairly
happy
to
give
the
update,
because
we've
been
working
on
it
for
quite
some
time.
So
in
simple
terms,
CTF
is
a
protocol
that
enables
to
put
many
tokens
into
one
token.
Essentially,
it
enables
to
create
and
manage
on-chain
investment
funds.
H
So,
based
on
the
aggregate
votes
of
all
the
fund
managers,
the
function
automatically
does
the
trades
through
the
D5
box
and
rebalances
the
fund.
Right
now
we
are
looking
for
additional
fund
managers.
If
you
are
active
in
EOS
and
are
interested
in
managing
the
fund.
Please
do
let
us
know
in
our
telegram
chat.
H
There
is
a
solid
incentive
for
fund
managers,
and
this
year
we'll
be
deploying
a
fund
to
vax
and
Telos
as
well.
Those
funds
will
resemble
more
of
a
hedge
fund
structure
and
the
idea
for
the
next
iteration
is
to
build
a
solution
through
which
anybody
could
easily
set
up
their
own
customized
investment
fund.
H
Thanks
to
the
upcoming
Bridges,
assets
of
other
chains
could
be
used
in
funds
on
EOS,
so
Asset
Management
protocol
could
potentially
bring
lots
of
liquidity
to
EOS.
If
this
all
sounds
interesting
to
you,
there
is
a
way
how
you
can
become
a
large
stakeholder
of
the
project
by
providing
liquidity
to
the
fund
on
D5
box.
H
A
H
A
Right
right,
okay,
cool,
very
cool
I,
know
Visa
or
CFO
here
at
the
house
nation,
very
big
fan
of
a
lot
of
EOS
tokens,
so
I
wanted
to
I
invited
him
on
the
Fireside
to
make
sure
he
was
attending
this
presentation:
lots
of
lots
of
good
content
for
Visa
today
on
the
far
side,
but
yeah,
that's
great
Vlad.
Thanks
thanks
for
joining
us
on
the
Fireside
and
yeah.
Thanks
for
sharing
all
those
links,
we
got
a
telegram
Channel.
H
H
H
A
A
H
A
J
J
I
was
finding
a
new
name
for
Novak
crypto,
something
more,
let's
say
fun
and
professional
and
I
was
discussing
that
with
dance
enjoy
just
after
the
Eden
fractal
today,
by
the
way
shout
out
to
Vlad,
also
of
Eden
and
I
was
thinking
about
a
new
name
for
another
crypto
and
I
write
to
the
conclusion
that
I
have
something
to
announce
here.
So
another
crypto
is
a
new
name
that
will
be
a
key
LED
feature
of
promotion
for
another
crypto
I
have
to
announce
a
new
rebranded
name
or
complementary
name.
J
K
J
That
will
be
the
last
Workshop
of
the
the
season
of
the
third
season.
I
have
a
nice
panel,
I
cannot
unveil
now.
I
will
publish
the
poster
just
before
the
9th
December
in
time.
That
will
be
astonishing
interviews
astonishing
guests,
all
about
web
3.0,
full
spectrum,
error
and
I
have
nice
guests,
I
I've
been
nothing,
will
make
you
a
guess,
but
partner
Joy
is
born
and
yeah
I
have
a
lot
of
to
share,
but
that
will
be
great
for
the
EOS
ecosystem
for
Antelope
and
for
everyone.
J
So
shout
out
to
everyone
don't
give
up.
We
are
in
good
position.
The
price
is
not
perfect,
but
we
are
building.
We
are
building
education.
We
are
building
sharing
on
of
information,
good
good
marketing,
EOS
B
swarms
with
comments
very
well
done,
so
we
have
all
into
the
hands
to
to
do
something
great
into
this
EOS
ecosystem.
So
don't
give
up,
go
and
chill
up
and
go
your
side
chat.
Thank
you
very
much
see
you.
L
J
I
think
it's
only
right
that
was
inspired
by
you
Brandon,
because
I
remember,
you
are
sometimes
sitting
beside
the
Fireside
I,
don't
know
if
it
is
in
the
mountain
or
in
a
beautiful
River
or
you
are
meditating,
sometimes
I.
Remember
when
we
did
an
Eden
member
called
together.
You
work
into
a
fire.
I.
Remember
there
was
a
Ibraham
also
joining
and
I
was
always
thinking.
Okay
is
Lovejoy.
Your
real
name
is
enjoy.
J
A
real
name
seems
to
be
that
it
is
a
joy
name
and
I
was
speaking
about
Nova
crypto,
because
crypto
sometimes
that's
could
make
think
all
these
guys
only
interested
about
crypto,
no
I
am
interested
about
the
new
way.
That's
not
a
new
way
to
tokenize
and
monetize
things
and
I
was
thinking.
Okay
Patrick,
but
Nova
Joy
yeah,
that's
that
was
obvious,
but
until
that
I
was
sitting
with
a
dance
enjoy
Dogman
the
best
dog
in
the
Galaxy
I
was
thinking.
J
Okay,
we
are
doing
hidden
fractal,
we
are
fun,
we
are
professional
at
the
same
time.
Let's
do
something
fun
like
do:
yeah,
baby,
okay,
so
partner
Joy
is
born.
So
yeah.
Thanks
to
you,
brandona
I
love.
You
you
do
a
fantastic
job
with
with
the
with
the
enf,
and
you
were
a
fantastic
Eden
member
also
you're,
always
you're,
always
and
yeah.
Thank
you
for
all
what
you
are
doing.
A
A
Oh
yeah,
thank
you,
Patrick
Pat
Lovejoy!
Thank
you
yeah.
So,
before
moving
on
to
sorry,
it's
gonna
take
maybe
a
few
times
for
me
to
get
it
right,
thanks
yeah.
So
before
moving
on
to
our
other
topics,
they
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
quick
throwback
to
last
week's
episode
where
we
talked
extensively
we
had
of
the
EOS
Network
Foundation
talking
all
sorts
of
details
about
the
EOS
Network
Ventures.
A
If
you
missed
it,
definitely
lots
of
great
information
out
there
to
be
learned.
If
you
maybe
don't
want
to
spend
two
hours
watching
the
video
the
enf
released
a
FAQ
today,
going
over
a
lot
of
the
information
that
was
shared
in
that
show
in
text
format.
So
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there
today
before
we
move
on
to
some
other
topics,
so
I
shared
the
link
here
in
the
chat,
and
you
can
of
course
find
it
on
the
blog
at
eosnetwork.com.
A
All
right
is
signing
off.
Thank
you,
Rhett
and
have
a
good
evening
and
for
the
rest
of
us
that
are
staying
on
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
pomelo,
so
pomelo
donations
opened
this
morning
we've
had
we
have
a
lot
of
applications
already
approved
when
I
checked
earlier.
Today
we
were
at
88
applications.
I
think
we
have
even
more
than
that
approved
now
so
definitely
time
to
get
in.
There
go
visit,
pomelo.io
and
you
know,
donate
to.
B
A
A
Let
me
share
the
link
right
here.
So
our
first
put
session
pits
question
is
going
on
tomorrow
at
11,
A.M
Eastern.
So
that's
four
hours
before
the
Fireside
usually
starts
for
those
of
you
who
have
difficulty
with
time
zones
like
blue
dog.
So
that's
11,
A.M
Easterns.
We
have
six
six
grand
presenters
that
are
confirmed.
We
have
a
bunch
more
I,
think
that
are
going
to
be
confirmed.
You
know
before
the
show
tomorrow,
but
I
want
to
remind
you
guys.
A
You
know,
there's
four
pitch
sessions
available
and
in
total
we
have
maximum
of
15
slots
per
pitch
session.
Each
presenter
has
five
minutes
to
explain
their
Grant,
so
maybe
if
we
have
a
full
lineup
for
a
pitch
session,
it'll
last
about
90
minutes,
but
I
doubt
that
we'll
get
to
a
full
lineup
tomorrow.
A
So
I
want
to
give
you
guys
a
reminder
if
you
have
not
yet
applied
for
your
pitch
session,
please
go
ahead.
Do
that
do
that
today?
We'll
get
you
in
for
tomorrow
show,
if
not,
there's
going
to
be
other
pitch
sessions
next
week
again
same
time:
Thursday
11
A.M
the
week
after
that
pitch
session
number
three
same
time:
Thursday,
11,
A.M
and
then
the
final
pitch
session
will
be
on
a
Tuesday
because
donations
close
on
the
Wednesday.
A
A
So
as
long
as
you're
approved,
you've
got,
you
know
an
equal
chance
of
getting
on
there.
As
soon
as
you
reply
to
my
conversation
to
my
confirmation,
email,
you
get
your
spot
in
the
pitch
session
for
the
generals
for
the
for
the
Chinese
and
the
Korean
positions.
That's
a
bit
different
spots
are
more
limited,
so
each
of
these
teams
kind
of
manages
their
own
invites
in
the
way
that
they
feel
is
best
suited
for
them.
But
you
know
you
can
be
confident
that
they
will
know
that
you
applied
to
their
possession.
A
91
grants
approved
so
far
in
pomelo,
that's
great
Daniel
Keys,
coming
in
Sharing
in
some
updated
information,
says
it's
pretty
much
on
Pace
with
season
three,
a
little
ahead.
That's
great
personally
I
went
through
the
list
this
morning,
or
this
afternoon
made
my
first
35
donations
to
a
bunch
of
Grants,
some
of
them
I
recognized
from
previous
Seasons.
Some
of
them
were
new.
A
The
pomelo
platform
is
that
you
get
to
build
your
reputation
over
time
with
the
community
and
be
able
to
you
know,
get
funding
for
your
projects
every
every
season,
Daniel
keys.
Do
you
want
to
maybe
jump
on
here
share
some
of
your
thoughts
so
far,
I've
got
a
lot
more
to
say,
but
you
know
I.
Imagine
you
have
some
things
to
share
too.
D
Yeah
really
happy
with
the
the
progress
so
far
in
season.
Four
like,
like
you
mentioned,
we're
we're
up
to
91
approvals
now
and
agree.
The
quality
I
think
of
the
approved
grants
is,
is
once
again
higher
this
season.
Getting
better
and
better.
Every
single
season,
I
think
again
we're
learning
as
a
community
together
on
what
is
a
public
good
and
how
you
great
make
a
great,
successful,
Grant
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
great
content
out
there
shout
out
to
Catherine
who's
who's.
Listening
right
now,
I
can
see
her
listening.
D
M
D
So
part
of
all,
that's
another,
probably
reason
why
we're
seeing
higher
quality,
because
we're
I
guess
preventing
some
of
the
lower
quality
one
currently
from
from
getting
immediately
approved,
at
least
and
again,
we
talked
about
collections
on
the
last
fireside
chat,
it's
even
more
exciting.
Now
that
donations
are
open
and
more
and
more
people
are
starting
to
use
the
collections,
I'm
even
more
excited
about
them.
It
looks
like
I
didn't
get
an
account,
a
recent
account
on
how
many
collections
we
have,
but
there's
a
good
amount
to
them.
D
You
know
I'm
looking
forward
to
see,
for
example,
the
first
Grant
application
for
someone
who's,
creating
a
collection,
raise
money
to
become
the
ultimate
pomelo
curator
and
put
in
some
extra
time
and
researching
and
following
up
and
putting
together
the
the
collection
of
vetted
grants-
and
you
know
maybe
that
to
me-
that's
a
public
good.
Maybe
maybe
you
can
raise
some
some
funds
to
do
that.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
Daniel
for
sharing
those
updates.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
mention
about
pomelo
is
yeah.
Some
of
the
articles
that
we've
been
publishing
so
I
shared
the
link
to
our
medium
account.
It's
just
at
pomelo
grants
on
medium
and
you
can
find
a
variety
of
informative
articles.
So,
if
you're
new
to
pomelo
or
if
people
are
asking
you
questions,
you
know
Point
them.
A
There,
we've
got
a
bunch
of
Articles
such
as
what
are
collections,
pomelo
rules,
new
features
for
pomelo
season,
four,
what
are
pomelo
pitch
sessions,
your
clear
and
direct
guide
to
writing
a
pomelo
Grant,
and
we
got
more
in
the
pipeline
coming
today.
I
wanted
to
feature
one
of
our
more
recent
articles,
which
is
a
combination
of
kind
of
the
season.
Three
retrospective
results
from
the
survey
that
we
did
and
also
some
new
features
that
are
available
in
season
four.
A
So
some
of
the
things
that
you'll
find
in
this
article
are
you
know
what
are
the
some
of
the
themes
that
came
up
in
the
survey
in
the
community
survey
that
we
did.
So
thank
you
to
everyone
who
answered
that
survey.
Some
of
the
themes
include,
you
know
more
support
for
Grant
owners.
Some
of
the
action
items
that
we've
taken
to
address
that
feedback
is.
You
now
have
the
ability
to
create
a
Draft
application
anytime.
You
like
you,
don't
have
to
wait
for
Seasons
to
be
open.
A
You
can
get
ready
well
ahead
of
time.
You
know,
there's
the
new
article,
your
guide
to
a
clear
and
direct
pomelo
Grant,
which
gives
you
tips
on
how
to
write
a
pomelo
Grant,
which
I
covered
a
bit
in
a
previous
Fireside
and,
and
you
know
how
to
reach
the
community
and
community
building.
So
we've
got,
of
course,
the
pitch
sessions
which
I've
talked
about.
We've
got
a
upcoming
article.
That's
going
to
be
talking
about
how
to
best
promote
your
Grant
and
we've
also
got
a
new
neighbor
account.
A
That's
dedicated
for
the
Korean
pomelo
community,
so
we'll
be
using
that
account
to
communicate
with
the
Korean
Community
even
more
than
we
have
in
the
past,
and
then
another
theme
that
came
up
was
quicker
analysis
and
matching
fund
distribution.
So
that's
something
that
we've
been
considering
on
how
to
do,
and
you
can
find
more
information
about
these.
A
You
know
in
the
article
another
theme
that
came
up
was
the
tracking
of
Grant
progress,
so
some
of
the
things
we're
doing
for
that
includes
collections
includes
you
know,
showing
retired
grants
on
the
profile
page
to
provide
more
transparency
to
donors
about
funds
raised
in
the
past
tracking
donor.
Progress
by
season
is
another
thing
and
then
finally,
another
theme
was
in
terms
of
browsing
and
displaying
grants.
So
for
that
we've
added
new
filters.
A
Of
course
the
collection
feature
can
be
used
for
that
as
well,
and
we've
brought
updates
to
the
grant
card
design,
which
will
hopefully
make
the
information
clearer
for
everyone.
So
there
you
go.
That's
a
little
quick
recap
of
our
one
of
our
latest
articles
that
I
encourage
you
guys
to
check
out
and
I
see
some
people
here
in
the
chat
are
sharing
their
grants.
That's
cool
I
encourage
you
guys
to
do
that.
A
We
did
place
a
few
restrictions
today
in
the
main
EOS
telegram
telegram
chat
last
season,
which
we
love
to
see
Grant
owners
getting
out
there
promoting
their
grants
as
much
as
possible,
but
it
was
kind
of
a
locked
last
season
in
that
main
telegram
chat.
So
we've
added
you
know
the
guideline
to
maybe
keep
the
promotion
to
once
a
week
for
your
grants
in
that
main
EOS
telegram
channel.
So
donations
are
open
for
four
weeks
in
total,
so
you
can
maybe
promote
you
know
your
Grant
four
times
in
that
channel.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
that
quick
note
on
there,
but
in
general
you
know,
loving,
to
see
the
activity
loving
to
see
the
energy
in
the
community.
People
were
on
the
ball.
I
find
this
season.
People
were
ready.
We
had
a
big
flood
of
applications
right
when
applications
opened
Daniel
and
the
rest
of
the
team
of
the
pomelo
team
have
been
doing
a
great
job.
Reviewing
these
grants,
approving
them
there's
a
lot
of
Grants
to
review
and
improve,
but
you
know
that's
been
going
well
also.
A
So,
overall,
yes,
I'm
super
pleased
with
how
it's
going
and
I'm
excited
to
see
how
it's
all
gonna
play
out
yeah.
So
if
anyone
has
any
questions
about
pomelo
or
thoughts
or
you
want
to
share
something,
let's
not
use
the
Fireside
to
promote
our
grants
on
air.
If
you
guys
want
to
share
in
the
chat,
I.
Think
that's
fine,
but
you
know
apply
to
the
pitch
session.
A
A
All
right,
I
reduced
my
volume,
a
bit
I,
don't
know
here.
If
who
gave
me
that
feedback
in
the
chat
that
is
a
bit
too
loud
now,
maybe
maybe
now
it's
perfect,
so
yeah.
So
next
topic
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
the
new
D5
product
that
was
released
by
D5
box
recently
called
The
Vault.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
action.
The
Vault
quickly
surged
to
three
million
EOS
staked
in
the
vault
and
I
think
it
was
I,
don't
know
two
days
or
something.
A
N
So
I
mean
it's:
it's
a
pretty
standard.
Vault,
you
deposit,
EOS,
you're,
agreeing
to
a
five-day
lockup.
So
that's
kind
of
the
stipulation
on
D5
box
is
if
you're
willing
to
I
guess
give
up
your
liquidity
for
a
five
day
lock
up
period.
You
can
enter
the
Vault.
That's
the
only
real
requirement,
it's
a
participant
in
yield
plus,
so
it's
essentially
from
what
I
could
tell
it's
passing
more
than
a
hundred
percent
of
the
yield
from
yield
plus
back
to
the
the
stakers
into
that
vault.
N
Last
I
checked
this
afternoon
or
this
morning
it
was
eight
percent
yield
on
your
EOS
so
and
that'll
dilute
as
the
Vault
grows
in
size,
so
I'm
not
sure
where
it'll
be
next
week,
but
you
basically
deposit
EOS
for
an
eight
percent
yield
that
is
higher
than
any
yield
you
can
get
staking
natively.
Even
with
the
voter
rewards
on
top
of
wrecks.
You
can
get
about
two
percent
doing
that,
so
there
obviously
is
counterparty
risk
to
this.
It
is
a
D5
contract.
N
It
is
a
participant
in
recover,
plus
though,
but
obviously
do
your
own
research,
not
investment
advice.
Things
like
that.
What's
unique
about
this
vault
is
that
it's
fully
integrated
into
the
D5
box
product
suite
and
that
you
actually
get
a
receipt
token
when
you
deposit
into
the
Vault.
So
as
I
mentioned,
you
do
give
up
your
liquidity
for
the
actual
EOS
token
for
five
days,
but
you
get
a
fully
liquid
s.
N
Eos
token
staked
EOS,
it's
very
similar
to
a
y
token,
if
you've
ever
used
yfi
on
ethereum
a
y
eth
token,
for
example,
very
similar
to
that
so
steak,
Dios
I.
Imagine
at
some
point
there
will
probably
be
a
liquidity
pool.
That's
eo's!
First
stake
dios
I,
don't
know
how
deep
it
will
be,
but
that
would
kind
of
allow
a
swap
there,
but
right
now
that
doesn't
exist,
but
with
your
seos.
What
is
very
unique
about
it
and
advantageous
within
D5
box.
N
Is
that
because
it's
all
within
their
own
protocol,
they've,
essentially
whitelisted
s
EOS,
to
be
a
whitelisted
collateral
So
within
the
D5
box
Suite,
your
seos
token
could
be
staked
as
collateral
into
D5
box
lending.
What
that
means
is
that
you
could
borrow
against
it
as
if
it
was
actual
unwrappedios.
N
So,
what's
interesting,
there
is
that
you
could
earn
that
eight
percent
yield
while
borrowing
assets
other
assets
against
your
EOS,
typically
most
assets
that
you
borrow
against
your
EOS
have
a
lower
than
eight
percent
interest
rate.
This
creates
something
called
a
negative
interest
rate,
we're
actually
getting
you're,
actually
earning
more
from
your
yield
than
you're,
paying
out
an
interest
to
borrow
so
you're,
actually
getting
paid
to
borrow
in
in
some
ways.
N
The
most
advantageous
strategy
right
now
is
probably
to
generate
usn,
which
is
the
D5
box
stablecoin
the
interest
rate
or
the
generation
fee
to
create
to
Mint
usn
tokens
is
one
percent.
So
by
by
staking
your
EOS
in
the
vote,
you're
getting
eight
percent
yield,
you
get
an
seos
token.
You
take
that
seo's
token.
You
could
put
it
into
D5
box
lending
and
you
could
actually
generate
usn
against
it
for
one
percent.
So
that's,
obviously
a
seven
percent
Delta.
N
What
you
do
with
that
usn
you
could
swap
it
for
tether.
Send
your
tether
to
an
exchange.
Put
it
in
your
bank
account.
You
could
also
take
that
usn.
You
could
swap
half
of
it
for
usdt
and
then
you
could
stake
the
usn
50
50,
with
usdt
into
a
D5
box
liquidity
pool
that
liquidity
pool
you're
not
really
prone
to
impermanent
loss,
because
it's
stable
coin
versus
stable
coin
swap,
but
you
could
actually
earn
another
generally
six
to
eight
percent
yield
on
those
stable
coins
so
like
to
kind
of
backtrack.
N
So
net
I
I,
don't
know
the
math,
but
you
could
essentially
on
your
Capital.
You
could
earn
let's
say
11
if
you
have
a
200
collateral
ratio,
quite
safe,
obviously
be
aware
of
all
of
the
risks
of
D5
and
price
volatility.
But
by
doing
those
steps
and
they're
all
outlined,
I've
seen
D5
bucks
promoting
this
specific
strategy
of
the
usn
usdt
liquidity
pool.
N
If
you
follow
that
strategy,
collectively
you're
getting
about
11
yield
on
your
EOS,
but
with
counterparty
risk
with
defy
risk,
all
of
that,
so
it's
really
cool
it's
something
that
I
was
hoping
to
see
from
the
very
early
days
of
yield,
plus
back
in
April
when
we
were
talking
about
the
program
and
what
could
come
of
it.
I
I
spoke
on
multiple
Fireside
Chats,
about
my
my
hope
to
see
a
negative
interest
rate.
It's
come
because
of
the
yield
subsidy
because
the
subsidy
is
essentially
coming
from
the
EOS
Network
itself.
N
N
The
the
vault
is
quite
simple:
five-day
lock
up
get
eight
percent
yield
on
your
EOS,
but
yeah
with
the
S
EOS
utility
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
kind
of
adoption
that
gets
so,
for
example,
like
pizza
lending,
I
I,
could
Envision
in
the
future.
Maybe
they'll
accept
seos
as
a
collateral,
but
we
really
do
want
competition
to
come
out
of
this.
N
We
do
not
want
seos
to
become
the
next
staked
F
like
if
you've
been
paying
attention
to
youth
2.0
Lido
staking
accounts
for
I,
don't
even
know
what
the
percentage
is
these
days,
but
roughly
35
of
all
staked
eth
is
in
light
out,
might
even
be
higher
than
that
I.
We
do
not
want
that
hap
to
happen
on
EOS,
so
there's
actually
some
countermeasures
already
in
place,
one
of
them
being
the
yield
plus
has
a
cap
to
it.
N
So
every
protocol,
including
the
the
new
Vault
on
D5
box,
has
a
cap
of
six
million
EOS
once
once
a
protocol
goes
above
6
million
EOS
it
doesn't
actually
get
in
tvl.
It
doesn't
actually
earn
any
additional
yield
subsidies.
So,
right
now,
there's
a
five
percent
yield
subsidy
on
any
D5
protocol
up
to
six
million
EOS.
But
beyond
that
6
million
EOS,
it's
not
getting
additional
yields,
so
it
essentially
dilutes
that
five
percent,
the
the
high
the
more
that
vote
goes
above
6
million
the
lower
the
subsidy
actually
becomes
like
collectively.
N
So
what
that
does?
Is
it
kind
of
creates
competition,
because
once
the
D5
box
vault,
which
has
been
very
successful
at
attracting
tvl
I
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
have
my
screen
in
front
of
me,
but
it's
roughly
two
or
three
million
EOS
right
now,
so
it
still
has
room
to
grow,
but
once
it
hits
that
cap
it's
going
to
create
an
opportunity
for
another
D5
protocol
to
pop
up
and
say
hey.
N
N
So
what
that
does
is
it
kind
of
creates
a
more
robust
staked,
EOS
ecosystem
there'd
be
multiples,
take
to
EOS
derivative
tokens,
which
can
kind
of
there's
there's
pros
and
cons
to
it,
but
the
biggest
Pro
is
that
it's
not
putting
all
of
that
Capital
into
a
single
Vault.
So
there's
no
single
point
of
failure.
I
believe
most
of
these
vaults
are
staking
to
Rex.
In
the
background,
that's
completely
abstracted
from
the
end
users
and
those
vaults
are
staking.
N
There
is
in
the
wrecks,
they're,
probably
also
getting
voter
rewards.
So
if
you
want
to
diversify
the
proxies
being
used
and
all
of
that
fun
stuff,
then
yield
plus
actually
has
the
countermeasure
to
that,
so
that
there
should
be
multiple
vaults
over
time.
If
tvl
were
to
increase,
it
would
be
spread
out
over
multiple
volts
at
a
cap
of
6
million
EOS
each.
Obviously,
they
can
go
above
that
six
million
years,
but
they
won't
be
able
to
rely
solely
on
the
yield
plus
subsidy.
The
five
percent
subsidy.
A
There
you
go
how
to
maximize
your
yield
on
EOS.
Thank
you
Zach
for
that
great
explanation.
I
shared
some
screenshots
a
bit
above
here.
The
vault
is
up
to
3.4
million
EOS,
very
impressive
stuff,
congratulations
to
D5
box
and
congratulations
again
to
all
of
the
architects
of
yield
Plus
for
designing
a
really,
really
good
program.
A
That
is
clearly,
you
know
having
results
and
we're
seeing
TV
outgrow
on
EOS,
which
is
great
I,
saw
a
tweet
today,
actually
saying
that
tvl
on
EOS
was
now
higher
than
on
cardano
about
time,
all
right
cool.
So
if
anyone
else
has
some
questions
or
thoughts
on
that
yeah
jump
in
share
share
some
thoughts
or
questions.
O
I
O
One
of
the
things
that
was
actually
really
impressive
was
a
lot
of
the
new
tvl
in
the
vault
was
actually
from
new
users,
like
so
users,
maybe
from
a
Korean
exchange
or
from
different
ecosystems.
So
a
lot
of
times,
sometimes
a
D5
protocol
will
have
a
new
product
and
all
the
tvl
will
essentially
take
from
itself
and
move
to
the
next
product.
All
of
this
new
tvl
that
was
in
the
vault
was
actually
from
new
users,
so
not
existing
users
from
the
existing
protocol.
O
A
O
A
Cool
very
cool,
yeah
I'm,
definitely
part
of
that
I've
put
in
the
a
good
chunk
of
EOS
into
the
Vault,
which
I
was
not
doing
prior
I
was
yeah.
Anyways
I've
decreased
my
centralized
Finance
lending
exposure
to
zero,
basically
back
when
Luna
crashed
and
now
a
lot
of
of
some
of
those
funds
are
now
in
the
Box
earning
yield
in
defy
on
EOS.
O
And
then,
depending
on,
where
you
live,
you're
actually
forced
to
use
D5,
because
just
for
me
in
particular,
living
in
Ontario
actually
have
had
all
my
centralized
Exchange
accounts
closed.
So
I
was
actually
forced
to
use
D5
as
the
only
alternative.
So
I
am
a
hundred
percent
on
chain
fully
custody
by
force
of
the
government
of
Ontario.
O
E
O
M
A
N
Another
strategy,
if
you
are
djen
with
the
D5
box
strategy,
is
you
could
borrow
against
that
seos
generate
usn
and
buy
any
token.
You
want
to
go
long
on
you're,
essentially
holding
you
could
hold
a
long
position
and
get
paid
to
be
long,
because
the
Delta
is
seven
percent.
You're
earning
eight
or
seven
percent
on
your
EOS
I
just
saw
the
screenshot
and
then
you're
borrowing
usn
for
one
percent,
and
then
with
that
usn
you
could
buy
EOS.
N
You
could
buy
any
token
on
EOS,
so
you're
essentially
creating
a
long
position
and
you
typically
when
you
hold
a
long
position,
you're
paying
interest
out.
So
you
can
only
depending
on
the
size
of
your
position.
You
can
only
I
guess
hold
it
for
so
long
before
the
interest
rates
start
kind
of
eating
away
at
your
principal,
but
because
of
the
the
yield
generation
on
the
the
staked
EOS
you're.
Actually
you
could
actually
hold
that
long
position
unless
you
get
liquidated.
N
Obviously,
you
could
hold
that
long
position
comfortably
for
quite
quite
a
while
you're
actually
getting
paid
to
do
it
and
you
could
actually
I
don't
know
the
need,
probably
knows
the
exact
leverage
position.
You
could
do
on
D5
bucks
by
winding
up
your
position,
but
you
could
borrow
usn
against
your
stake
dios
and
then
you
could
buy
moreeos
put
that
EOS
into
the
Vault
generate
seos
borrow
against
it,
buy
more
EOS
with
the
usn
and
you
could
lever
up.
N
O
Again
anymore,
it
was
called
like
pyramiding,
like
you
essentially
like
Cascade
a
position
and
you
just
essentially
deposit
borrow,
buy
deposit
borrow
and
as
long
as
the
fees
are,
you
know,
because
a
lot
of
the
times
you're
going
to
be
paying
swap
fees
to
kind
of
get
into
that
position.
So
it
can
be
an
expensive,
Venture
and
I.
Think
I
think
Steph,
you've,
adventured.
M
A
I
learned
that
lesson:
I
pyramid
it
hard-
it's
not
too
big
of
an
amount,
but
I
wanted
to
see
how
it
went.
Pyramided,
pretty
hard
got,
scared
of
getting
liquidated
like
I,
always
do
and
then
remove
my
position
and
then
I
realized.
Oh
my
God,
the
fees,
the
fees
were
pretty
high,
Colin
fun
times
in
defy
land
yeah.
O
But
definitely
a
product
for
sure
I.
Think
a
lot
of
there
is
a
leveraged
positions
like
that.
Like
leveraged
LP
positions,
so
liquidity
provider
positions
on
BSC,
so
right
now,
like
EOS,
has
the
sort
of
the
base
primitive
tools.
But
there
is
a
lot
of
products
you
can
build
on
top
of
these
sort
of
Lego
blocks.
We
just
haven't
gone
into
the
full
full
Degen
like
the
margin,
LP
position,
we've
just
gone
on
1X
LP
positions,
but
I
think
these
products
are
coming.
O
A
Yeah
fun
little
fact
about
LPS,
so
I
personally
bought
crypto
before
I
purchased
any
stocks
or
any
type
of
traditional
Investments,
and
so
you
know
in
D5,
LPS
stands
for
liquidity
provider,
but
LPS
is
also
a
term
used
in
traditional
Venture
funds,
which
came
up
last
week
on
the
Fireside.
I,
always
thought
that
meant
liquidity
provider,
but
apparently
that's
not
what
it
means
in
the
old
tradfy
world,
apparently
LP
means
limited
partner.
So
that's
something
I
learned
recently
thought
I'd
share
that
with
you
guys.
N
While
we're
on
the
topic,
you
could
also
go
short
using
the
the
steak.
The
asphalt
you
could
borrow
against
your
stake
deals.
You
don't
have
to
generate
usn,
you
could
borrow
any
other
token
on
their
platform,
so
you
could
borrow
Dap.
You
could
borrow
box
itself
and
you'd
still
have
that
negative
interest
rate.
You
basically
just
sell
that
borrowed
asset
onto
the
market
and
hope
it
goes
down
in
price
and
you
could
buy
it
back
cheaper
later.
A
A
So
that's
a
feature.
That's
been
available
on
other
platforms
like
openc,
for
example,
and
something
that
has
not
been
available
on
EOS
or
wax.
You
know
through
the
leading
nft
platform
called
Atomic
Hub,
but
apparently
that's
live
now.
Unfortunately,
I
haven't
had
time
to
play
with
it.
Just
yet
I
don't
know.
If
anyone
in
here
has
had
time
to
play
with
it,
I
think
Andrew.
When
we
last
talked
you
were
kind
of
hoping
to
to
get
around
to
to
trying
it
out.
A
F
Yeah
I
can
I
can
share.
I
have
a
an
nft
project.
I
was
working
on
for
my
friend,
who's
got
a
song
that
people
got
in
a
TV.
Show
people
ended
up
liking
it,
so
she
wanted
to
release
it
as
an
nft
and
the
idea
that
I
had
was
putting
the
stems,
which
means
the
individual
instruments
as
an
unlockable
part
of
the
nft,
so
that
people
who
are
big
fans
can
come
and
do
their
own
remixes.
F
That
kind
of
thing,
but
the
only
Marketplace
that
I
could
find
that
feature
in
was
openc
and
to
register
with
openc.
You
know
it
cost
me
180
or
something
like
that.
Just
for
the
transaction
fees,
so
I
definitely
wanted
to
do
it
on
EOS
and
I'm
very
happy
to
see
this
feature
on
EOS
now,
because
that
means
I
can
use
it,
and
you
know,
don't
have
to
pay
a
hundred
dollars
for
transaction
fees.
A
There
you
go
and
they
see
Yana
Here
coming
in
sharing
a
screenshot
of
our
wax
Discovery
show
that
we
do
at
dodgy
I'm
just
promoting
a
lot
of
the
nft
projects
and
going
ons
in
the
wax
ecosystem.
So
I
know
Jana.
If
you
want
to
jump
on
here
and
maybe
share
some
of
your
thoughts,
I'd
love
to
hear
from
you,
hey.
K
Hey
yeah
normally
on
the
production
table,
and
it
takes
me
like
two
minutes
to
unmute
myself,
so
I
hope
happy
that
Dave
is
streaming
today
and
I
have
the
chance
yeah
it's
it's
amazing,
I
I
just
chat
in
the
chat
we
talked
about
in
the
wax
Discovery
a
little
bit,
and
it's
not
that
you
can
upload
files
as
far
as
we've
seen.
But
what
you
can
do
is
like
add
a
password
or
or
something
to
into
the
unlockable
content
to
your
nft.
A
A
A
They
were,
of
course
very
popular
when
the
network
launched
in
2018
I
was
out
there
Beth,
Dice
and
gambling
on
all
sorts
of
stun
stuff.
It
was
fun,
but
I
hadn't
been
there
for
a
while,
and
you
know
gotta
say
I
was
very
impressed.
Like
Recon
said
about
the
platform
very
smooth,
very
fast,
very
seamless,
doesn't
you
know,
doesn't
feel
blockchainy
at
all
and
yeah,
so
I
got
in.
There
bet
on
Canada
lost
all
my
EOS
today,
but
still
it
was
fun.
A
P
E
A
A
Yeah
not
gonna
happen.
I
know
the
the
Americans
were
very
happy
about
their
zero
zero
tie,
which
is
is
weird
for
for
the
Americans
to
be
cheering
for
zero.
Zero
scoring,
but
yeah
I'm,
yeah
I'm
excited
to
I,
wasn't
able
to
watch
the
game
today.
I
was
prepping
for
the
Fireside
and
stuff.
The
game
was
two
and
a
half
hours
ago,
but
yeah,
hopefully,
I
can
catch
one
of
the
one
of
the
Canada
games.
A
A
Kj
for
easy
here,
sharing,
of
course,
some
of
the
more
nefarious
sides
of
FIFA,
especially
hosted
in
Qatar
I-
think
we've
all
heard
about
that.
But
you
know,
hopefully
that
gets
better
over
time.
Hopefully
the
corruption
and
FIFA
and
the
Olympics
and
all
that
stuff
goes
down
over
time.
But
I,
don't
know
we'll
see
Drew
here
saying
he
likes
basketball
better,
because
it's
more
exciting
ever
seen
a
soccer
game
with
hundreds
of
points
yeah.
A
Classic
American
Mockingbird
saying
America
loses
so
much
a
soccer.
A
shout
out
is
welcome,
yeah
get
that,
but
anyway,
so
I
hope
you
guys
enjoy
the
FIFA,
maybe
check
out
the
sportbet.1.
If
you
want
to
wager
a
little
bit
of
EOS
on
your
favorite
team,
I
I
found
the
experience
fairly
enjoyable
until
I
lost
it.
Of
course,.
A
All
right,
so
that
kind
of
wraps
up
all
the
topics
that
I
had
on
my
list
at
this
time,
I'm
gonna
open
up
to
the
floor.
Anyone
who
wants
to
share
some
updates
about
their
projects,
some
comments,
some
questions
for
the
guests
here
I
see
Eve,
is
in
the
chat,
although
he
hasn't
joined
the
mic.
Yet
you
know
Zach
is
still
with
with
us.
We
had
Whitney
here
talking
one
of
the
new
enf
marketing
employees
love
to
hear
from
you,
Winnie
and
yeah.
A
A
A
I've
asked
the
Santa
Claus
for
a
stream
deck
this
Christmas,
so
I'm
gonna
have
my
my
sound
effects
and
everything
right
there
at
my
fingertips
with
some
buttons.
Instead
of
having
to
move
my
mouse
around
behind
all
the
millions
of
Windows
I've
got
open
here
so
come
to
New
Year.
We
should
see
some
higher
level
production
values
and
higher
level
sound
effects
in
the
Fireside
foreign.
A
A
N
To
me,
does
it
let
you
cuss
I
I
have
a
stream
deck,
it's
sweet.
Do
you
I,
don't
see
in
these
pictures
if
you
can
customize
the
icons
on
it,
like
the
images
like
on
a
stream
deck,
every
button
is
basically
a
little
tiny
LCD
screen
and
you
could
put
custom
icons
on
it
because
you
could
have
like
five
pages
of
buttons
that
you
could
scroll
around
for,
and
you
know
what
each
button
does,
because
it's
essentially
its
own
screen.
Can
you
do
that
on
this
one.
Q
F
Q
Yeah
necessarily
designed
for
streaming
specifically
like
I,
don't
really
stream
I,
just
use
it
for
development
work,
so
I've
got
a
bunch
of
developer
shortcuts
on
it,
but
I
figured
I'd,
throw
it
out
there.
They
had
streaming
in
mind
when
they
designed
it
like
in
part,
so
it
can
be
used
for
that,
but
I
never
have
used
it
for
that
and
I
don't
stream.
So
you
know
my
don't
leave
my
opinion
too
heavily,
but
just
throwing
it
out
there.
It's
a
good
project.
It's
lasting.
N
At
least
a
year,
I
don't
really
use
it
for
stream.
I
use
it
for
all
the
shortcut
keys
so
like
in
Photoshop
and
stuff
anytime.
You
have
a
shortcut
key
where
it's
like
control
and
shift
and
some
other
button.
That's
what
I
like
to
use
mine
for
is
all
the
little
shortcut
keys
are
nice
on
a
touch
pad
easy
to
reach,
and
it
could
be
up
specific,
like
depending
on
which
app
you're
using.
Q
Q
It's
all
open
source
software
and
hardware,
and
it's
programmed
with
ducky
script,
which
is
a
scripting
language.
That's
pretty
simple!
It's
like
it's
from
the
rubber
ducky
hostile,
USB
thingy,
but
it's
like
it's
one
of
the
most
approachable
scripting
languages,
I've
seen,
but
it's
still
a
scripting
language,
so
I
don't
know
what
the
stream
deck
uses.
If
it's
just
like
clicking
things,
maybe
it's
easier,
but
it's
certainly.
This
thing
is
certainly
cheaper
and
so
it's
just
a
neat
project.
You
know.
A
A
We've
had
a
variety
of
hosts
hosting
the
hot
sauce,
but
I'm
gonna,
be
you
know,
stepping
up
my
production
game
on
that
side
as
well,
buying
some
lights,
buying
a
green
screen
all
that
stuff,
so
I'm
excited
gonna,
learn
how
to
stream
my
own,
my
own
stuff,
restream.
You
know
to
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter,
all
the
stuff
that
Jana
and
Dave
are
doing
for
me
right
now,
hopefully,
next
year,
I'll
be
able
to
do
that.
All
of
that
stuff
myself.
A
A
A
You
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
moved
away
from
the
first
world
two
years
ago,
I
was
I
was
told
there
would
be
fiber
when
I
bought
the
house.
I
called
the
company
I'm
like
hey,
is
this
true:
will
there
be
fiber
when
I
moved
in
they're
like
yes
and
then
I
call
it
week
before
I
move
in
they're
like
oh,
no,
sir,
there's
no
ETA,
yet
oh
great,
but
yeah?
Hopefully
those
days
are
behind
me
now
I'll
be
able
to
invite
friends
and
let
them
know
yeah.
A
N
A
A
That
said
like
every
resident
of
Quebec
is
gonna,
have
a
high
speed
access
by
September
2022
and
when
the
fiber
rollout
was
a
bit
delayed,
maybe
because
of
the
huge
storm
we
had
in
may
they
actually
offered
sponsored
startling
connections,
so
I
applied
to
that
I
got
accepted
in
the
program
last
week,
and
but
now
this
week
the
fiber
is
coming.
So
that's
so
I
won't
need
to
use
starlink,
but
yeah
I
was
I
was
excited
about
that.
A
The
government
was
going
to
pay
for
my
initial
setup,
which
was
like
750
bucks
and
then
we're
gonna
discount
the
monthly
fee
down
to
100
to
kind
of
make
it.
You
know
on
par
with
other
fiber
Connections
in
Quebec,
so
yeah
yeah,
fiber,
lower
latency,
higher
bandwidth
available
for
sure,
so
basically
I'm
going
from
12
megabytes
a
second
to
a
thousand.
Getting
that
100x
Improvement.
Almost
so
I'm
pretty
excited
about
that.
I.
A
M
A
Q
A
A
A
Oh
yeah,
Aaron
I
did
see
a
message
from
Aaron.
Where
did
it
go?
Those
of
you
interested
in
keeping
up
on
the
SDK
project
that
grey
mass
is
working
on,
expect
some
blog
posts
and
plenty
more
information
as
the
project
progresses
wharfkit.com
from
Aaron.
Do
you
want
to
come
on
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
A
R
Why
not?
Yes,
so
the
name
as
kind
of
out
now
we're
calling
this
Wharf
or
Wharf
kit
as
the
full
thing.
It's
a
software
development
kit
or
an
SDK,
that's
Wharf
kit.
This
is
the
project
that
originated
in
the
wallet
plus
blue
paper,
where
we
talked
about
the
needs
for
better
tools
for
developers
to
build
applications
and
got
approved
by
the
Coalition
kind
of
over
the
summer
and
started
late
fall
and
were
working
on
it.
The
Branding
kit.
N
N
R
It's
just
Wharf:
it's
got
a
cool
logo.
It's
got
a
whole
lot
of
like
symbolism
behind
it.
It's
got
nerdy,
techie
kind
of
terminal
feel
to
it.
It
looks
like
a
w.
It
looks
like
a
web
three,
it's
kind
of
web3,
it's
the
foundation
of
web3.
We
we've
nerded
out
a
lot
over
like
the
visual
representation
of
all
of
this
and
how
to
get
people
excited
about
it.
R
I
M
R
R
Our
our
team
pulls
out
some
good
stuff.
It
takes
time,
but
we're
we're
happy
with
it,
and
this
this
one
specifically
like
gray
Mass,
has
always
kind
of
had
a
nautical
theme
to
its
stuff
like
we
have
anchor.
Obviously,
and
we
have
a
background
service
called
Lighthouse
and
one
called
Sextant,
and
it's
all
this
like
nautical
stuff
and
Wharf
is
the
bridge
between
you
know
the
land
and
the
Sea,
so
antelopes
live
on
the
land.
You're
gonna
we're
gonna
connect
the
two.
A
R
Yeah
we're
excited
about
this
starting
to
get
to
talk
about
it.
It'll,
hopefully
set
the
stage
for
for
other
Frameworks
as
well
like
whether
it's
people
building
games
or
people
building
mobile
apps,
whatever
they
might
want
to
build.
So
we
we
are
trying
to
take
all
the
experience
we've
had
over
the
years
and
really
package
it
up
and
make
it
easier
for
people
to
get
involved.
O
R
R
The
unit
tests
are
functional,
but
like
there's
no
user
facing
elements,
yet
it
doesn't
actually
broadcast
transactions.
Yet
so
we'll
we'll,
hopefully
have
something.
That's
maybe
usable
in
like
a
server-side
context
in
the
coming
weeks
and
then
we're
starting
to
do
deep
research
on
the
UI
side
of
things.
So
that
way
you
could
put
it
in
something
like
a
pomelo
page
or
whatever.
It
may
be.
O
Okay
and
maybe
maybe
you
can
elaborate
on
the
server
side,
so
let's
say
what
are
your
techniques
on
the
server
side?
Is
there
like
some
optimization
on
like
sessions
or
kind
of
like
you
know,
because
I
know
that
if
you
just
use
standard,
usao,
JS
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
the
transactions?
When
you
push
a
transaction
that
gets,
you
know,
gets
info
every
transaction
it
does.
A
lot
of
things
is
the
server
side
kind
of
optimized
to
kind
of
reduce
the
amount
of
transactions
that
are
getting
pushed
or
I.
R
Will
yeah
right
now
it's
fairly
basic?
We
have
a
lot
of
like
if
you
dig
through
the
code
which
all
of
this
is
available
on
morph
kit
on
GitHub.
That's
the
organization
name,
each
repository
lives
under
Wharf
kit.
The
thing
we
reviewed
today
was
the
session
kit
and
it
is
what
offers
the
it
offers
sessions.
R
This
session
and
then
perform
transactions
against
it
and
it
acts
like
the
eosio
transact
call
or
the
eosjs
transact
call,
but
it
has
plug-in
architecture
to
it.
So
you
can
customize
how
the
transactions
flow,
whether
you
want
to
do
co-signing
or
IBC
or
like
log
the
results
of
things
during
a
transaction
call
it's
kind
of
open
on.
However,
you
want
to
do
it
yeah,
but
I
kind
of
lost.
My
train
of
thought.
There
I've
been
talking
a
lot
today.
R
A
A
A
A
I
shared,
you
know,
CZ,
yes,
I
think
it
was
yesterday.
Whatever
said
some
comments
about
coinbase,
potentially
you
know
not
having
all
the
reserves
or
whatever
he.
He
then
retracted
that
message,
but
my
initial
reaction
was
that,
like
hey,
slow
down
there
CZ
you
already
blew
up
one
huge
exchange,
you
know
don't
need
to
go
for
for
two
in
the
same
month.
Give
us
a
break
a
bit,
but
you
know
one
one.
Nice
thing
is
that
you
know
a
lot
of
crypto
and
Bitcoin
have
been
removed
from
exchanges.
A
I
myself
have
removed
a
lot.
I
had
you
know
most
off
since
the
Luna
implosion,
but
removed
even
more
recently.
Now,
really
just
basically
got
nothing
left
on.
There
feels
good
to
be
holding
my
own
keys,
the
point
of
crypto,
basically
so,
hopefully
there's
a
wake-up
call
for
a
lot
of
people
to
you
know,
take
advantage
of
the
ability
to
hold
to
custody
of
your
own
Assets
in
crypto,
and
we've
been
seeing
that
you
know
across
all
exchanges.
Basically,
so
that's
good.
Q
Q
Q
You
should
buy
a
hardware
wallet
so
like
the
the
most
prominent
examples
are
Ledger
and
trezor.
You
know
they
come
with
wallets
for
major
coins.
You
can
move
all
your
stuff
there
and
then
the
follow-up
to
that
that
I
usually
share
with
people
and
again
not
Financial
advice.
Speaking
as
myself
is,
if
you
have
two
paychecks
or
anything
you
can't
afford
to
lose,
you
should
buy
something
like
you
know.
Q
A
So
I'm,
definitely
holding
more
than
two
paychecks
worth
of
crypto
and
I
have
not
reached
that
level.
Yet
of
the
you
know,
stamped
private,
private,
key
or
seed
words.
My
my
concern
with
that
is:
how
do
you
keep
that
safe
from
no
one
just
finding
it
and
then
finding
all
your
crypto?
That's
that's
been
kind
of
my
issue
with
that.
A
Q
It
is
worth
noting
that
the
usual
way
that
crypto
gets
stolen
is
either
like
the
FTX
type
situation,
where
a
centralized
entity
runs
off
of
all
your
money
or
you
know
you
get
a
computer
virus
or
something
that
that
steals
your
crypto
or
encrypts
your
hard
drive
or
something
like
that.
It's
fairly
rare
for
people
to
just
randomly
find
your
seed
phrase
and
and
know
what
it
is,
but
that
is
a
possibility.
Q
So
the
other
thing
is:
if
you
have
the
stamped
titanium
plates,
if
something
were
to
happen
to
Ledger
like
their
apps
are
compromised
or
you
know
or
trezor
their
apps
are
compromised
or
you
know
they
don't
support
the
latest
protocol.
They
stop
updating
or
something
the
the
seed
phrase
is
based
on
bip,
39
and
41.
So
you
can
use
a
software
wallet
if
you
know
those
those
12
or
8
or
6
or
24
words
or
however
many
words.
Q
It
is,
if
you
know
those
words
you
can
use
the
software
wallet
just
sweep
all
of
your
coins
somewhere
else.
So
that's
a
big
advantage
to
having
the
titanium
plates.
You
don't
actually
need
a
ledger
or
trezor
to
restore
your
tokens
from
that.
So,
if
you
want
to
keep
your
titanium
plate
safe,
like
you
know,
safe,
is
a
great
idea.
Q
It
really
depends
what
your
threat
model
is.
You
know
a
safety
deposit
box
is
an
excellent
place
for
that
sort
of
thing.
Unless
your
threat
model
is
the
government
coming
in
and
taking
them.
You
know,
that's
happened.
The
the
U.S
government,
for
example,
took
everyone's
gold.
They
drilled
safe
deposit
box
and
took
everyone's
gold
in
the
30s.
So
if
that's
your
threat
model,
then
a
safe
deposit
box
is
not
a
great
place
for
that.
Q
One
idea
that
is,
is
great
for
this
sort
of
thing.
Is
you
know
if
you
have
24
words,
you
stamp?
What
would
the
math
be
16
of
them
into
each
plate?
So
you
know
the
first
16
into
one
plate,
then
eight
more
random
words,
a
second
plate
with
eight
random
words
or
sorry,
four
random
words.
Then
16,
you
know
real
words
and
then
four
random
words
and
the
third
plate
with
eight
random
words
and
16
real
words.
Q
Q
And
then
you
take
those
three
plates
and
you
geographically
distribute
them.
You
hide
one
and
you're
in
a
safe
at
your
house,
one
in
a
safe
deposit
box,
one
at
your
parents
house.
You
know
whatever.
That
is
that's
not
what
I
do
otherwise.
I
wouldn't
talk
about
it,
but
another
idea
is
now
they
have
this
thing
called
the
25th
word,
so
you
have
the
24
words
that,
like
Ledger
and
treasure,
treasure
normally
support,
and
then
you
can
have
a
second
account
with
a
25th
word.
Q
So
it's
the
first
24
words
and
then
a
25th
word.
So
you
know
someone
broke
into
your
house
and
put
a
gun
to
your
head
or
whatever
you
can
put
in
the
24
words,
and
then
you
know
you
could
put
some
crypto
on
that
account
and
then
they
would
think
they
got
something.
You
know
five
hundred
dollars
a
hundred
dollars
a
thousand
dollars
whatever
that
is.
But
then
your
real
money
is
on
the
25th
word
and
so
how
to
store
that
I
mean
that's
up
to
you.
Q
Another
idea
is
is
keeping
that
in
a
trust
with
a
lawyer
which
I
personally
wouldn't
do,
but
again
it's
all
about
your
threat
model.
So
you
could
have
a
lawyer
that
has
the
25th
word
or
all
24
words
or
whatever
so
I
mean
those
are
just
some
ideas
again,
not
Financial
advice,
speaking
as
an
individual,
not
on
behalf
of
my
employer,
but
those
are
just
some
schemes
you
could
do.
A
Yeah,
that's
really
good
stuff,
actually
I.
You
know
splitting
up
the
seed
word
something
I've
heard,
but
I
had
not
heard
of
the
idea
of
putting
dummy
words
in
there
and
split
it.
That
way,
that's
that's
actually
even
better
and,
of
course,
having
that
dummy
account
available
to
give
whoever
wrench
attacks.
You
is
obviously
a
very
good
idea
as
well
good
stuff,
thanks
for
sharing
I.
O
Like
I,
like
the
the
decoy,
the
decoy
wallet
I'm,
actually
using
that
technique,
when
I
was
traveling
overseas,
I
would
have
two
wallets
one
wallet,
which
was
the
if
I
get
mugged.
I
give
you
this
wallet
with.
You
know:
10
bucks,
20,
bucks
and
I
have
my
real
wallet,
which
is
just
in
a
different
pocket,
but
you
have
the
in
case
I
get
mugged
wallet
you're,
given
that
so
I
really
like
that
that
Decoy
mechanic
I've
used.
A
O
Action
yeah
I
had
two
wallets
and
actually
use
that
method.
Also
for
negotiating.
It's
like.
Oh
I
only
have
twenty
dollars
in
my
wallet,
but
I
know
I
have
another
wallet
with
more,
but
then
you
would
show
the
wallet
say:
hey
look.
I
only
have
20
bucks
in
my
wallet
there's
just
you
know
two
other
Wallets
on
me
as
well:
yeah
yeah.
N
I
thought
you're,
gonna,
get
mugged
and
someone's
like
give
me
your
treasure
as
if
it's
a
normal
thing,
yeah
I
do
that
too.
I
keep
different
amounts
of
money
in
different
pockets.
It's
not
yeah
kind
of
the
same
good
for
negotiating
because
most
countries
or
a
lot
of
countries
you
gotta
haggle
for
everything
at
the
shops.
A
I
did
that
by
accident.
Actually,
in
a
club
in
Vegas
I
got
pickpocketed
by
these
Pros.
It
was,
it
was
well
done.
They
really.
They
really
got
me,
but
in
my
other,
in
my
other
pocket,
I
had
a
many
thousands
of
dollars
from
my
buddy
who
doesn't
trust
himself
with
money
when
he
goes
out
drinking
because
then
he
just
spends
it
on
Blackjack.
So
I
put
that
in
my
right
pocket
and
I
had
my
own
drinking
money
in
my
left
pocket.
A
Q
No,
that's
that's
why
I
brought
this
up
like
I
have
friends
that
have
invested
more
money
than
I
could
imagine
in
crypto,
and
they
keep
it
on
an
exchange,
and
when
the
FTX
thing
happened,
it
was
an
ft
Expo
and
the
FTX
thing
happened.
I
just
posted
in
like
a
group
chat
and
I'm
like
if
anyone
wants
help
getting
their
crypto
off
in
exchange.
Let
me
know
like
this
is
why
you
don't
keep
it
there,
but
you
know:
I
can't
can't
hold
their
hand,
can't
control
them.
Yeah
I.
A
Made
a
similar
post
I
made
a
similar
post
on
my
Facebook.
You
know,
saying
you
know,
get
your
crypto
off
exchanges
now,
if
you
haven't
done
so,
someone
messaged
me
is
like
hey:
Steph
I
bought
some
btcc,
you
know
through
an
ETF
through
my
bank.
You
know,
do
I
need
to
withdraw
that,
and
it
was
very
sad
when
I
had
to
say
no.
Q
I
just
want
to
throw
out
there
like
for
anyone.
If
you
do
have
crypto
on
an
exchange,
a
ledger
or
treasure,
I
mean
a
ledger.
Is
only
eighty
dollars
like
you.
Don't
need
to
do
fancy
things
with
a
bunch
of
titanium
plates
in
eight
different
cities
like
you,
you
could
just
buy
a
ledger
for
80
and
that's
better
than
having
it
on
an
exchange.
So.
A
Yeah
and
the
tricky
thing
is,
a
lot
of
people
are
like
oh
yeah,
yeah
stuff
I'll.
Do
that,
but
it's
not
an
emergency
not
like
I
need
to
do
that
right
now,
and
then
they
kind
of
have
that
same
attitude
every
day
every
week
and
then
they
get
caught
they're,
like
oh
I,
meant
to
do
that.
But
I
didn't
prioritize
it.
So
that's
one
lesson
in
crypto,
I
learned
very
early.
If
you
got
something
you
need
to
do
in
crypto,
withdraw
coins
make
a
trade
whatever
it
is.
Q
Q
I
mean
I
have
no
idea
how
many
assets
they
actually
had
or
what
their
volume
was
or
any
of
that
their
New
Zealand
exchange
and
I
wanted
to
invest
in
an
altcoin
that
was
available
on
cryptopia,
so
I,
you
know,
moved
money
into
ethereum
and
moved
it
over
to
cryptopia
and
bought
this
coin
and
yeah.
So
you
probably
know
where
the
story's
going.
Q
They
hack
that,
where
they
lost
somewhere
around
40
or
50
percent
of
all
their
assets
and
some
New
Zealand
government
Froze
all
their
assets,
and
this
was
in
2017.,
so
they
went
into
liquidation
and
that's
still
going
on.
I
still
haven't
gotten
my
money
back
like
thank
God.
It
wasn't
a
significant
amount
of
money.
It
was
like
a
just
like
sort
of
a
I.
Q
Don't
know
a
couple
hundred
dollars
just
like
an
experiment,
but
all
I
had
to
do
was
pay
the
dollar
to
move
it
to
a
soft
wallet
on
my
computer
and
I
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
this.
It's
you
know,
I'm,
not
salty,
about
it
or
anything.
It's
been
an
interesting
thing
to
watch
like
the
liquidation
proceedings,
but
retail
Traders
are
absolutely
last
in
line.
Q
So
when
the
liquidation
started,
the
New
Zealand
government
ordered
the
cloud
provider
to
keep
their
servers
up,
so
they
could
do
an
investigation,
so
they
paid
Cloud
costs
on
hosting
all
of
their.
You
know
all
their
servers
and
content
and
databases,
and
all
that
stuff
they're
paying
Cloud
costs
without
making
any
money,
because
the
exchange
is
done,
they're
paying
a
team
of
lawyers,
they're
paying
liquidation
professionals-
and
you
know,
they've-
been
paying
these
things
for
five
years
and
those
people
are
first
in
line
whatever
debtors
they
had
like
as
a
normal
business.
Q
You
have
some
debtors,
whatever
debtors
they
have
is
our
our
second
in
line.
Retail
Traders
are
last
in
line,
so
I
probably
won't
see
a
penny,
so
just
like,
as
a
word
of
you
know,
and
again
it
was
a
small
amount
of
money
relative
to
where
I
was
at
that
point
in
my
life
and
to
be
honest,
that
altcoin
is
probably
worth
nothing
at
this
point.
But
this
is
a
word
of
caution
like
if
you're,
a
retail
Trader
you
are
last
in
line
and
by
the
time
they
do.
Q
A
Q
Yeah
I
saw
someone
speculate
on
Reddit
I,
don't
know
how
or
sorry
Twitter
I
don't
know
how
you
know
seriously.
We
should
take
their
word,
but
I
mean
they
basically
assembled
The
A-Team
of
of
liquidation
I
mean
people
that
worked
on
Enron
and
all
these
other
things
and
and
they
said
that
they're
probably
paying
more
than
a
million
dollars
a
day
just
for
this
team.
So
it's
like,
if
they're
paying
a
million
dollars
a
day,
and
this
goes
on
for
five
years,
which
the
cryptopia
thing
hasn't
ended.
Q
A
A
Thank
you
for
everyone
who
participated
today:
Mark
Rhett,
Daniel,
Keys,
Chris,
KJ,
Patrick
Dogman,
probably
forgetting
some
Zach
thanks
for
making
the
show
interesting
and
what
it
is.
Thank
you
for
everyone
who
joined
us
live
on
Discord
thanks
for
everyone,
who's
watching
on
other
social
media
and
yeah.
It's
been
a
good
show
and
looking
forward
to
doing
it
all
over
again
next
week,
Happy
Thanksgiving
for
all
the
Americans
out
there.