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From YouTube: Dan Larimer Post Interview Community Town Hall
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After the Dan Larimer interview, we invited the EOS community to join us in an open town hall style Zoom call to discuss and analyze some of the insights that Dan shared.
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A
We're
live
now
boys
all
right,
so
hey
guys
anyway.
That's
the
reason
that
the
the
the
wrecks
can
be
immediately
withdrawn
is
because
there's
available
tokens
that
aren't
being
utilized
for
cpu
at
that
time
and
you
can
withdraw
up
to
that
amount.
But
once
you
hit
that
threshold
they're
stuck
there
for
up
to
30
days
so.
C
D
B
D
A
B
B
Yeah,
he
was
just
going
into
all
those
details
about
how
you
could
potentially
wrap
tokens
on
eos
and
the
the.
How
do
they
put
it
like
validating
the
light
headers
from
your
own
private
chain,
right
contracts
to
validate
some
light,
headers
that
I
just
want
to
hear
all
those
technical
details
straight
from
dan's
mouth
and
sort
of
take
it
slow
and
digest
it,
because
it
sounded
super
interesting.
A
I
I
want
somebody
to
go
back
and
watch
the
video
again
and
mark
all
the
times
where
dan
had
to
say
something
and
then
made
some
smirk
or
some
look
away
from
the
camera
or
some
sort
of
head
motion.
That
indicates
that
we
were
on
to
to
some
sort
of
topic
that
he
he
agreed
with
and
knew
about.
But
just
wasn't
able
to
talk
about
like.
I
was
surprised
when,
when
I
honestly
didn't
expect
anything
to
be
there
when
we
talked
about
the
the
treasury's
wrapped
into
a
tethered
usd.
B
A
A
A
E
Overall,
it's
always
good
to
listen
to
dan
and
similar,
and
it
was
a
lot
of
small
pieces
left
right
and
center,
the
stable
coin
talks
and
he's
he
doesn't
seem
to
keep
them
in
high
high
regard
nowadays-
and
I
know
in
bigger
community
there's
been
a
lot
of
excitement
to
get
b1
interested
and
similar.
It
could
be
a
bit
of
an
uphill
battle,
I
believe,
but
overall
very
good
get
a
feeling
of
it
straight
from
a
horse's
mouth.
B
I
loved
all
the
economics
talk
you
guys
went
into
it
was
it
was
sweet
to
hear
dan
talk
about
like
and
how
he
his
whole
vision
for
decentralizing
everything
and
having
peer-to-peer
communication
that
doesn't
rely
on
the
internet.
It
seems
like
he's
been
talking
about
that
more
recently
and
the
shower
coin.
Stuff
was
super
interesting.
F
A
A
E
Sorry
I
missed
you,
you
checked
on
me,
lenny
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
I've
been
I've,
been
I'm
a
bit
a
bit
everywhere,
but
I
must
admit,
since
december
19,
when
I
got
invited
into
vigor.
This
is
what
occupies
my
day
and
time
and
whatever
it's
really
interesting.
But
I
I
got
a
very
background,
but
I'm
no
technical
guy
whatsoever,
I'm
just
a
guy
who
absorb
as
much
as
I
can
and
calibrate,
reject
regurgitate
and
you
know,
spread
around.
B
D
A
A
B
D
There's
so
there's
probably
so
many
killer
quotes
if
anyone's
watching
this
and
they're
able
to
go
through
and
cut
little
snippets.
I
know
colin
from
colin
talks
crypto.
Whenever
dan
did
the
mike
mahoney
interview,
he
cut
a
bunch
of
short
clips
and
posted
them
on
twitter.
If
someone
wants
to
take
the
ball
on
that
that'd
be
amazing.
G
A
I
saw
that
he
he
oh
did
he
yeah
yeah,
I
gotta.
I
gotta
tweak
him
a
little
bit
cause
I've
been
trying
to
get
him
to
come
on
the
the
the
chat
and
for
a
while
to
learn
more
about
what
the
pbe
is
doing
behind
the
scenes,
because
we
really
don't
really
don't
know
what
they're
doing
just
like
they're
talking
adapt
radar.
Well,
why
are
you
talking
adapt
radar
what's
going
on
there?
What
are
you
trying
to
make
sure
it?
You
know
happens,
who
you
know
you're
engaging
with
with
these
with
these
other
entities.
A
It'd
be
be
kind
of
nice
to
know
why?
What's
what's
the
what's
the
target?
What's
the?
What
what
can
we
do
to
help
out?
You
know?
How
can
we
we
assist
you
in
any
way?
Don't
don't
forget
that
you
have
a
community
to
rely
on
just
because
you
work
for
b1
will
gladly
support
any
initiative.
That
would
would
raise
the
raise
the
level
of
the
sea.
D
D
A
All
right
all
right,
so,
let's
talk
through
it,
at
least
at
least
he
came
out
and
said
and
admitted
that
the
reason
that
they
they
backed
away
from
the
community
there
was
essentially
because
of
the
sec
agreement
right
and
we
suspected
that
you
know
I
wrote
the
article
about
about.
Has
eos
lost
his
voice.
A
I'm
sorry
has
block
one
lost
his
voice
and
and
tied
it
back
to
the
sec
agreement
and
and
why
I
thought
that
they
were.
You
were
going
away
from
eos
to
eosio
and
and
leaving
telegram
and
doing
that,
and
he
all
but
confirmed
that
today
right.
He
basically
said
they
were
worried
about
being
seen
as
a
centralized
entity
and
it
wasn't
just
block
one
protecting
block
one.
A
It
was
block
one
protecting
the
eos
community
and
if
they
had
been
slapped
with
a
fine
and
they
had
been
shut
down
and
seen
as
eos
as
a
security,
then
be
honest
and
blunt
we
all
probably
would
have
been.
You
know
what
would
have
happened.
It'd
be
like
the
what's
the
other
coin,
that
that
got
a
major
fine
and
had
to
roll
something.
A
B
B
A
I
A
There
was
a
disconnect
really
between
what
was
going
on
and
and
the
perception
a
lot
of
the
community,
because
there
was
no
real,
clear
communication
about
what
was
happening
and
people
were
speculating
and
many
people
were
wrong
and
it
hurt
it
hurt
a
lot.
Not
just
I
mean
it
hurt
the
token
price
people
people
got
spooked
people
sold
and
it
honestly
it
it
hurt
everybody
from
the
perspective
of
of
the
dollar
value
associated
with
eos.
Now
dan
may
not
value
that.
A
But
me
somebody
who
was
building
on
eos
someone
who
was
was
relying
upon
the
dollar
value
of
eos
and
retaining
that
eos
for
the
long
run
is
an
investment
and
a
user
and
a
builder
that
hurt,
because
I
could
have
flipped
it
over
to
btc
at
that
time,
and
then
I
could
have
quadrupled
my
holdings
in
eos
and
had
four
times
the
resources
if
I
was
going
that
model.
So
I
agree
with
dan
up
to
a
certain
point
that
we
need
to
build
a
community.
A
D
J
D
And
then
the
utxo
stuff
too,
it
was
right
before
b1
june,
the
cto
spam
of
everpedia
put
an
article
out
about
using
utxos
on
eos
for
bitcoin,
and
it
seemed
like
dan
kind
of
confirmed
that
that's
kind
of
like
the
idea
he's
running
with
at
this
point,
so
that
was
nice
confirmation.
There
we
asked
about
the
big
tech
corporations
chain,
cheney
named
some
rattled
some
off
and
it
you
could
just
tell
one
of
them
had
to
have
been
right
at
least
once.
A
B
D
A
D
Was
liberland,
though
right
yeah?
He
he
was
referring
to
lieberland
at
that
time,
but
what
he
said
in
that
ivan
interview
was
that
he
envisioned
block
producers
to
be
people
who
are
already
running
nodes
and
it
wouldn't
add
an
additional
cost
like
running
a
block.
Producing
node
has
an
infrastructure
cost
to
it,
but
if
you're
already
a
large
dap
or
an
exchange
like
coinbase,
binance,
they're,
already
running
full
eos
nodes,
whether
or
not
they're
producing
blocks
or
not
doesn't
matter,
they're
already
running
the
infrastructure.
D
B
A
Sort
of
in
some
sort
of
private
multi-yeah
yeah,
we
kind
of
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
with
with
eaves
last
time
eve.
You
know
when
he
was
on
the
on
the
call
I
wish
we
could
get
him
back,
but
you
know
talked
about
whether
or
not
the
the
bps
would
run
that
or
whether
it
be
another
trusted
entity
and
dan
sounds
like
he
wants
to
have
further
decentralization.
A
A
D
A
A
A
K
A
K
A
D
A
Each
staking
pool
would
still
have
one-fifth
or
a
representative
share
of
the
votes
and
and
the
more
tokens
you
put
into
each
staking
pool
the
more
share
of
the
voting
pool
you
would
have,
and,
of
course,
those
that
want
to
stake
for
longer
periods
of
time,
technically
have
probably
a
better
grasp
of
what's
good
for
the
network,
because
they're
invested
in
the
long-term
benefits
of
the
network
so
be
interesting
to
see
that
hey
phoenix
is
live
now
all
right.
What's.
K
L
A
Well,
did
you
need
to
go
back
and
and
and
read
my
article
from
a
couple
of
times
ago,
where
I
speculate
on
some
of
that
now
think
about
having
having
a
large
trusted
entity
now
being
block
producers
for
the
company
and
not
just
I
hate
to
say
it
relatively
unknown,
regardless
of
how
much
eos
they
have
relatively
unknown
in
the
world
exchanges,
I
mean
honestly
who,
outside
of
of
cryptocurrency
fanatics,
know
who,
who
obi
is
you
know?
I
mean
they
don't
right.
A
So
if
you
have
an
amazon,
if
you
have
a
google,
if
you
have
a
tencent,
if
you
have
all
these
alibaba,
these
public
corporate
entities
are
block
producers
that
leads
to
other
entities.
Other
corporations,
other
people
with
large
amounts
capital
they
all
of
a
sudden
trust
the
network.
All
right,
it's
not
about
you,
scotty
with
your
10
000,
eos
or
2000
eos
or
whatever
you
have
it's
about.
What
does
these
other
large-scale
corporations
that
would
like
to
use
a
public
blockchain
now?
A
Reputation
and
let
they
start
using
the
network,
then
all
of
a
sudden,
you
see
that
it's
easier
for
fidelity
and
for
all
these
investment
firms
to
see
a
value
and
be
able
to
make
a
make
a
reasonable
case
to
allow
these
tokens
to
be
utilized
as
investment.
It's
just
another
chain
in
the
whole
adoption
mechanism
that
we
could
see
going
down
the
road
so.
B
D
L
L
But
it
seems
like
that's
actually
like
the
doorway,
if
you
will
to
a
lot
of
these
other
things
that
we're
looking
to
do,
which
would
include
the
worker
proposal
systems
and
this
eos
foundation,
how
you
essentially
elect
those
founding
members-
maybe
not
even
just
so
much
someone
who
holds
the
most
cos
tokens
and
so
that
I
thought
was
a
a
more
novel
approach.
Maybe
to
solve
something
that
plagues
a
lot
of
blockchains,
not
just
cos
well,.
A
We'll
see,
I
think
that
used.
If
I
remember
it
was,
was
it
the
wasn't
the
ivan,
or
I
think
it
was
the
shrimp
interview
where
he
talked
about
using
that
to
choose
moderators
on
voice.
So
I
think
voice
will
be
the
testing
ground.
One
you'll
have
real
identities
right,
you'll,
be
able
to
identify
individuals
on
voice
and
then
two
you
can
use
the
political
playoff
method
with
real
individuals
to
see
how
it
really
plays
out
what
happens
when
you
run
into
conflict.
A
D
D
The
audience
has
already
read
the
voice:
post
they've
probably
listened
to
his
last
three
interviews,
so
we
wanted
to
focus
on
the
topics
that
haven't
been
addressed
yet
and
keep
pulling
it
back
in
the
eos
like
we,
we
tried
to
do
as
much
as
we
could.
Sometimes
we
diverted,
but
we
kept
trying
to
bring
it
back
to
eos,
not
necessarily
even
esio,
and
that
was
kind
of
our
our
goal
and
thanks
to
dan
man,
that's
incredible
tune.
D
A
Was
his
reaction?
Was
that
was
money
giving
to
b1
during
the
token
sale,
and
it
was
not
incumbent
upon
the
community
to
be
able
to
do
anything
with
it?
However,
they're
they're
making
decisions
and
doing
things
outside,
although
I
think
we
saw
brennan,
say
something
a
few
months
ago
that
he
was
trying
to
re-engage
with
with
the
esvc
and
kind
of
move
it
in
that
direction.
A
D
Of
them
that
got
the
fifty
thousand
dollar
grants
right.
I
know
I
know
of
a
particular
project,
a
community
based
project
in
the
eos
ecosystem
that
has
been
in
touch
with
eos
vc,
and
they
said
that
there's
not
any
grants
going
on
right
now
for
a
particular
dac
that
doesn't
have
equity
to
give
away
so
for
projects
like
that
which
are
like
completely
decentralized
autonomous,
it's
kind
of
like
they.
A
D
A
D
D
I
pitched
eos
as
this
great
thing
and
one
of
the
strengths
of
eos
prior
to
the
main
that
launch
was
like
this
company
has
four
billion
dollars:
they'll
never
run
out
of
funding
and
look
they're
spending,
a
billion
dollars
on
eos
projects,
and
a
couple
months
ago,
whenever
I
did
a
pull
from
the
everything
eos
account
on
twitter
of
saying
whether
the
name
eosvc
was
deceitful.
I
also
posted
a
video
from
the
meetup
in
seoul
where
brendan
bloomer
announced
it,
and
he
said
we'll
drive
value
back
to
eos,
not
eos
io.
B
B
Yeah
but
outside
no,
but
actually
that's
actually
a
distinction
without
much
of
a
difference.
From
the
perspective,
I'm
talking
about,
like
ethereum,
is
just
another
blockchain
and
with
inner
blockchain
communication
with
like
between
esio
chains
or
between
blockchains.
The
point
is
that
we
like
esio
or
eos,
is
the
third
most
liquid
token.
He
was
talking
about
and
like
there's
value
of
having
your
value
on
eos
and.
A
When
the
ethereum
foundation
decides
to
give
an
eos
project,
some
money
I'll
feel
the
same
way.
James,
but
honestly
I'll
play
the
devil's
advocate
there
and
say
say
I
I
don't
buy
it
that
that
the
eos
community
I
agree,
we
gave
that
money
to
b1,
they
can
do
whatever
the
hell
they
want
to
it,
but
we
didn't
give
them
whatever
the
hell
we
didn't.
We
gave
that
money
to
to
affect
eosio.
A
D
A
A
You
know
we
we
kind
of
talked
a
little
bit
that
beforehand
and
he,
like
I
kind
of
mentioned
it
in
the
chat.
He
really
isn't
following
too
closely
on
on
any
projects.
Now,
if
that's
a
specific,
I
I
could
have
asked-
and
I
think
I
saw
somebody
asked
that
earlier-
maybe
it
was-
you
had
asked
that
in
one
of
the
telegram
channels,
drawing
reddit,
but
when
you
put
pios
in
there,
he
kind
of
didn't
really
want
to
talk
about
any
projects.
A
D
A
A
D
D
B
D
D
K
D
So
part
of
the
thing
about
a
public
blockchain
is
that
everything's
transparent,
like
you,
don't
have
to
be
on
a
public
blockchain.
If
you
want
like
privacy,
you
have
to
have
either
like
dan
put
out
an
article
like
two
year
or
two
ago,
where
it's
like
either
radical
transparency
versus
radical
privacy,
and
you
you,
you
have
to
lean
towards
radical
transparency
because,
like.
L
K
K
Okay,
then,
let
me
ask
it
a
different
way,
because
I'm
not
stuck
on
one
solution
or
the
other,
I'm
interested
in
in
the
general
objective.
How
will
privacy
be
achieved?
True,
privacy,
true
privacy,
beyond
any
state,
beyond
any
large
actor?
How
will
it
be
achieved
on
the
blockchain?
What
will
that
look
like
would.
D
Be
a
public
blockchain,
it
wouldn't
be
on
a
public
blockchain,
it's
either
it's
it's
like
it's.
The
whole
point
is
the
truth.
I
get
that
there's
reasons
for
for
privacy.
It's
just
a
different
use
case,
like
dan
said,
like
he
said
before
millions
of
blockchains
yeah.
I
believe
that
will
happen.
Millions
of
them
will
be
private.
Millions
of
them
will
be
public
if
you
want
to
use
a
public
ledger,
it's
all
about,
like
the
transparency
of
it.
I
believe.
K
A
K
D
A
I
I've
just
zach
before
I
have
my
super
secret
account
and
then
I
have
my
public
account.
Then
I
have
a
couple
of
intermediary
accounts.
I
probably
got
16
accounts
all
created
by
different
methodologies,
all
all
pointing
to
different.
You
know
some
some
point.
I
say
that
one
or
two
point
of
different
exchanges
and
different
ways
to
do
it.
A
Just
because
there's
some
things
I
do
like
to
keep
somewhat
private
and
there's
some
things
that
I
are
my
public
facing
accounts
if
you
will,
but
I
know
that
eventually,
with
things
like
us
detected,
I
don't
know
if
you
played
around
with
that,
but
there
are
some
things
that
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
showing
interconnectivity
between
accounts
and
and
it's
just
the
nature
of
nature
of
eos
and
and
you
can
eventually
probably
figure
out
who
most
people
are
here
and
there
by
looking
at
how
their
accounts
relate
to
each
other.
Go.
D
D
Trusted
infrastructure
like
dap
account,
for
example,
shout
out
armani's
in
the
live
chat
within
their
system
like
I
could
send
tokens
to
the
dap
account
eos
address
and
people
could
see
that
zach.vr
sent
tokens
to
dap
account,
but
once
it's
there
and
then,
when
I
withdraw,
they
don't
see
like
where
those
tokens
came
from
and
you're
tr
you're
trusting.
I
guess
someone,
but
if
it's
like
someone
with
a
high
reputation,
like
you,
trust
a
bank,
for
example,
to
hold
your
money.
Oh
sayed's
opponent,
sorry
guys,
I'm
I'm
on
a
ramble.
A
A
G
A
D
Rahman,
I
was
trying
to
explain
something
like
dap
account
where
you
have.
This
trusted
account
where
you
could
have
private
token
transfers
in
a
way
that
aren't
visible
on
like
a
block
explorer
necessarily,
but
you
could
still
pass
tokens
in
and
out.
I
I'm
doing
a
terrible
job
at
explaining
this,
but
you're
the
one
that
built
it
so.
H
Yes,
I
think
it's
more
like
layer,
two
right
means
it's
using
liquid
account.
It's
not
necessarily
trusted
because,
of
course,
the
contract
right
now
as
it
is
defined
is
trusted.
But
the
keys
are
not
with
us.
Keys
are
with
the
users,
and
so
that's
another
version
of
you
know.
How
do
you
make
it
easy
for
people
like?
H
I
think
the
biggest
problem
it
solves
is
all
the
issues
around
you
know
ram
cpu
net,
which
is
like
a
big
struggle
for
people
in
eos
world,
like
when
a
newcomer
comes
in
says,
and
even
nowadays
I
think
I
see
a
lot
of
people
complaining
even
about
the
wallets,
like
people,
don't
struggle
with
scatter
and
so
on.
So
it's
a
matter
of
making
that
easy
and
a
lot
of
apps
like
when
we
talk
to
these
enterprise
apps,
which
are
using
blockchain
as
a
database
rather
than
trying
to
you
know,
create
currencies.
H
They
don't
care
about
scatter
and
you
know
complicated
wallets
and
what
they
want
is
own
chain
data
with
the
easy
access
for
users
using
emails.
So
I
think
there
is
a
space
for
everything
I
would
say
for
enterprise
when
we
talk
to
them,
nobody
wants
to
integrate
scatter
wallet.
Trust
me
like
that
is
not
the
way
you
would
see
blockchain
to
be
used.
A
D
So
with
cyan
ramana
here
man,
I
respect
you
guys
so
much
like
what
do
you
guys
think
of
privacy
and
how
do
you
achieve
privacy
on
a
public
blockchain,
especially
with
like
supply
chain?
I
think,
speaking
of
use
cases
like
supply
chain.
If
I'm,
if
I'm
managing
a
supply
chain
on
a
blockchain,
I
don't
want
the
person
I'm
selling,
to
to
see
like
what
I
paid
for
those
same
goods
that
I'm
passing
on
to
you.
So
what
do
you
guys
think
about
that.
H
My
view
is
that
privacy
is
use
case,
specific
right
when
it
depends
on
each
use
case
what
you
need
to
design
like
when
you
say
supply
chain-
I
I
agree
means
probably
eos
is
not
the
best
blockchain
software
to
support
a
supply
chain
kind
of
a
use
case,
but
use
now
that
we
have
these
potential
inter
blockchain
communications
like.
If
you
see
liquid
chains
using
liquid
apps
itself,
you
can
build
those.
It's
not
easy.
H
I
agree
like
eos
is
not
designed
for
this,
but
with
this
layer
two
solutions,
probably
it
can
work.
Having
said
that,
when,
of
course,
I
have
not
directly
worked
on
supply
chain
solutions,
but
when
we
are
working
on
some
of
the
enterprise
solution
where
the
enterprises
are
saying,
we
do
want
to
keep
some
private
data
which
should
not
go
on
public.
H
It's
very
working
very
well
with
the
private
chain
which
see
the
thing
is
what
is
blockchain
as
long
as
you
have
a
private
chain
which
can
be
hashed
like,
even
if
you
put
a
100th
block
on
every
100
block
or
every
thousand
block
on
a
public
blockchain,
and
you
can
prove
that
the
private
chain
was
never
modified.
The
data
is
still
audited
through
public
blockchain.
H
G
G
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
allowed
to
share
their
name
but
they're
they're
working
together
to
make
something
of
more
more
like
enabling
privacy
for
enterprise
applications
on
eosio,
so
that
that's
in
the
work
that's
been
in
the
work
for
months
now,
I'd
say
almost
up
to
half
a
year,
but
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
large
effort
like
looking
at
the
progress
of
this
group.
It
takes
a
lot
of
planning
back
and
forth
yeah.
I
don't
know
when
it
will
be
available,
but
it
will
be
nice.
It's
really.
G
It
is
really
hard
to
do
privacy
on
private
chains,
even
if
you
have
a
private
chain,
then
you're
still
like
you're,
still
encrypting
stuff,
which
isn't
necessarily
the
best
answer.
Because
I
mean
you,
you
have
all
these
multiple
parties,
interacting
some
people,
a
lot
of
people
actually
on
private
chain.
They
just
allow
all
the
all
the
different
parties
to
see
everyone
else's
data,
but
that's
not
a
that's,
not
an
ideal
solution
either.
G
A
C
C
You
guys
go
forever
man.
I
gotta
give
you
some
props
for
that.
I
hopped
off.
Oh
yeah
appreciate
it.
I
can
always
count
on
you
for
that
goal.
I
helped
off
when
you
guys
were
trying
to
to
pry
the
cloud
provider
secret
information
out
of
dan.
There
so
didn't
get
a
chance,
but
I'm
going
to
go
back
and
rewatch
man.
How
was
it
yeah.
A
M
D
A
N
A
F
F
A
D
D
So
he
was
on
close
to
an
hour
before
we
went
live
like
we
were
just
testing
the
software
making
sure
nothing
would
break
and
then
the
live
stream
itself
went
two
and
a
half
hours.
So
three
and
a
half
hours.
I
hung
out
dan
for
three
and
a
half
hours
guys
put
that
on
the
public
record.
That's
awesome.
D
His
headphones
died,
he
we
asked
him
so
before
we
went
live,
we
said
dan,
we
might
go
like.
We
know
we
got
an
hour
of
your
time,
but
like
do
you
have
a
hard
stop,
and
you
said
my
hard
stop
is
when
my
headphones
die
and
that's
pretty
much
what
was
happening
at
the
end,
so
we
we
knew.
We
had
to
sign
off.
We
had
like
a
little
power
rangers
sign
off
too
dan.
J
I
D
Yeah
like
just
because
dan,
like
then
like
researching
all
of
these
projects,
like
you
said
it's
like
a
job
in
and
of
itself
like
it's
not
like
dan's
gonna,
be
an
expert
on
anyone's
technology.
Yeah
he's
heard
of
liquid
apps
he's
heard
of
vigor,
but
he
doesn't
like
understand,
like
the
nuances,
he's,
never
gone
through
the
documentation
like
there's
300
employees
at
block
one
there's,
a
hundred
percent
many
employees
that
block
one
who
who
know
about
liquid
apps.
D
L
A
Now
that
was
that
was
in
relation
to
the
creation
of
eos
accounts
related
to
to
voice
like
so.
The
original
purpose,
original
intent
was
to
give
every
voice
account
an
eos
account
and
he's
saying
they
can't
do
that
right
now,
until
they've
got
the
proven
identity
methodologies
totally
figured
out,
or
else
they
could
spam
spam
identities
on
voice
and
then
get
a
whole
bunch
of
free
eos
accounts
and
eat
up
the
ram.
D
Bancor
x,
whenever
they
launched
with
their
eos
to
ethereum
relay,
they
were
giving
away
free
eos
accounts
and
their
full
leos
accounts,
and
someone
from
their
team
said
that
there
were
people
that
figured
out
how
to
extract
the
ram
from
the
free
accounts,
and
they
did
it
like
by
the
hundreds
to
extract
like
pennies
on
each
account,
but
they
they
very
much
abuse.
The
system
like
this
is
a
very
real
problem
of.
If
you
can't
stop
that
kind
of
a
cyber
attack,
then
you're
just
gonna
go
broke,
trying
to
fight
it.
A
So
back
when
we
had
cpu
emergency,
we
we
saw
people
would
actually
people
and
there
were
a
couple
instances.
People
spun
up
brand
new
accounts
and
would
have
no
resources
and
would
come
to
cpu
emergency
by
the
thousands
and
all
they
were
doing.
If
you
recall,
you
could
claim
1
000
free
dice
tokens
on
dice
when
dice
first
started
up,
and
this
one
guy
literally
got
millions
of
dice
tokens
and
and
what
happened.
Dice
tokens
50x.
A
This
guy
created
all
these
accounts
and
collected
thousands
and
millions
of
dice
accounts
and
made
a
lot
of
money
from
it
from
wherever
he
was
situated
from.
But
they
would
also
do
that
with
the
free
spins.
They
go
out
to
dice
and
do
a
daily
free
spin
with
with
our
cpu.
So
people
would
really
try
just
to
make
a
few
fractions
of
a
penny
and
try
hard
in
some
situations.
D
L
That
is
something
that
does
come
up,
because
if
you
look
at
even
the
betting
application
we
have
with
it's
not
ever
pdm
predict
iq
that
particular
application.
It
still
relies
on
scatter
and
the
creation
of
an
account
and
all
these
things
that
all
these
steps
and
hurdles
which
I
think
for
everybody
on
this
call
is,
is
probably
pretty
easy
to
do.
L
But
when
you're
thinking
about
just
an
average
person
who
may
not
be
aware
of
all
the
nuances
with
eos,
they
take
one
look
at
that
and
it
you
know
it
could
be
probably
very
overwhelming
for
them.
So
I
think
that's
probably
a
in
addition
to
the
other
things
we
talked
about
today.
It's
probably
a
just
a
major
hurdle
with
some
of
these
applications
in
terms
of
the
ux.
A
A
You
know
or
something
like
that.
It's
it's
a
social
web
and
weblog
one.
If
you
will
that
can
get
you
to
all
sorts
of
daps
and
other
other
other
logins.
You
don't
really
have
to
know
too
much
about
a
wallet.
You
just
have
to
know
your
voice
password.
You
know,
so
I
think
I
think
it'll
be
easier.
I
hope
it'll
be
easier
if
not
we're
doomed
right.
We've
got
to
make
it
easy
for
the
masses.
L
They
may
not
know
what
that
is,
and
frankly,
they
may
not
have
an
interest
in
knowing
what
it
is,
but
they
may
want
to
place
a
bet
for
the
outcome
of
a
particular
event.
So
what
do
you
guys
think
is
the
likelihood
of
seeing
something
like
that?
Is
that
something
that's
realistic,
because
or
would
that
be
something
that
each
app
would
ultimately
be
doing
on
their
own?
L
L
F
L
B
L
F
F
K
K
I
thought
the
discussion
of
the
of
the
dac
was
interesting.
I
I
was
hoping
for
more
information
on
that,
because
that
seems
to
be
a
such
an
important
piece
to
the
whole
picture
and
we
haven't
really
heard
anything
about
it.
We
just
heard
that
kevin
is
in
charge
of
that,
but
I
think
unless
you're
a
block
producer
you're-
probably
not
getting
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
interaction
from
kevin.
D
K
D
I
haven't
been
able
to
get
anything
just
the
there
was
a
press
release
like
with
us
new
york.
I
think
whenever
maybe
when
block
one
first
announced
that
they're
planning
to
vote
soon,
it
mentioned
in
eos
foundation
and
that
it
could
be
funded
through
almost
what
sounded
like
voter
rewards.
So,
since
block
one
has
all
of
these
votes,
they
could
potentially
use
these
votes
to
earn,
rewards
back
and
those
rewards
could
fund
a
foundation,
but
that's
still
like
very
centralized.
D
The
way
it
sounds
is,
if,
like
it's
reliant
on
block
one's
tokens,
earning
value
to
fund
the
foundation
and
it's
kind
of
block
one
running
the
show.
So
I
don't
really
know
what
their
plans
are.
They've
been
pretty
quiet
about
that,
but
I
hope
to
hear
something
soon.
I
just
don't
know
anything
about
it.
Maybe
cites
a
block
producer.
You
got
any
insight
on
the
side.
D
B
D
A
So
still
going
back
to
that
speculation
piece,
I
wrote
and
we
talked
a
lot
about
legislation
and
tax.
I
still
think
that
that's
that's
how
b1
relates
the
voice.
Tokens
back
to
the
us
network
is
going
to
be
through
a
regulated
exchange.
It's
probably
not
going
to
be
a
direct
approach.
They're
going
to
have
to
track.
I
think
some
way
how
much
tokens
are
leave
the
voice
so
still
speculation,
but
I
think
that's
probably
what
the
b1
project's
going
to
be
a
fully
regulated
exchange.
A
O
Speaking
of
that
regulatory
compliance
did
anybody
else
catch
when
dan
was
talking
about
the
voice
token,
having
value.
He
then
said
you
know
at
one
point
mentioned
something
about
it
not
being
in
the
united
states,
or
maybe
the
people
with
within
the
united
states
having
to
get
a
token
that
didn't
have
value
hearing
them
talk
like
that,
it's
just
so
scary.
You
know,
like
obviously
the
crap
that
is
pre
privy
to
with
the
regulators.
It's
just
like
man,
they're
they're,
obviously
just
like
stifling
the
innovation
so
hard.
A
O
D
A
Don't
think
that's
the
case
guys.
I
think
that
was
the
case
early
on,
but
I
think
that
that
any
country
right
now
that
is
already
in
invoice,
probably
has
the
ability
to
receive
tokens,
or
at
least
that's
my
speculation
on
it.
Otherwise,
otherwise
they
probably
wouldn't
have
let
us
invoice.
I
forget,
there's
a
country
list,
there's
at
least
30
or
40
countries
that
are
not
allowed.
D
Everything
all
right
so,
while
we're
on
the
topic
of
voice,
ola
art
in
the
live
chat,
says
I
heard
voice-
will
have
a
big
update
where
it
will
be
designed
by
having
different
community
groups.
Users
will
be
able
to
join
communities.
Isn't
that
update
coming
in
october?
Didn't
salat
salah
say
that
with
the
communities?
A
O
D
A
Well,
the
it's
one
year
from
the
sec
agreement
agreement:
fine,
whatever
settlement
will
be
three
weeks
from
today,
actually
october,
1st
or
september.
30Th
will
be
the
one-year
anniversary.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
associated
requirement,
probably
not
anymore,
the
way
they're
engaging
with
the
community
again,
but.
D
A
C
Dancing
hyper
aware
of
like
the
outside
community,
outside
of
vs
like
what
they
think
about
it
and
the
flag
that
he
has
gets
kind
of
from
that
side.
But
he,
I
wonder,
did
you
guys
ask
him
about
kind
of
the
the
sentiment
that
that
block
one
maybe
is
moving
too
slow
did?
Did
he
have
any
response
to
that?
He
did.
D
F
B
B
K
D
D
A
Let's
see
I'm
just
going
back
through
here
we
talked
about
voice,
we
talked
about
the
ram
fees
associated
with
it.
At
least.
We
know
that
he
ever
really
confirmed
that
now
wasn't
the
time
for
marketing
what
was
his
response?
There
basically
said
until
we
have
a
back
end
ready
to
ready
to
keep
the
users
on
board,
so
we
know
that
we're
not
we're
not
ready
for
marketing
yet.
B
He
also
there
talked
about
like
pumping
the
the
price
of
eos
and
how
that's
just
not
a
priority
like
the
the,
if
you're,
if
you're,
trying
to
increase
the
price
of
eos.
What
you're
saying
to
paraphrase
dan
was
something
like
you
want
to
get
out
by
somebody
else
going
in
and
that's
sort
of
ponzi
mentality
and
that's
not
the
that's,
not
the
type
of
thing
you
want
to
build
a
community
on.
D
Go
ahead,
he
he
said
something
about
eos
pivoting
in
a
way
into
like
more
of
like
a
currency.
So
that's
why
it
didn't
really
make
sense
what
he
was
saying
about
the
price,
because
if
you
look
at
eos
like
a
community
currency,
you
want
to
buy
things
with
eos.
So,
like
the
value,
has
a
direct
correlation
with
your
purchasing
power.
If
it's
a
currency
like
you
want
to
be
able
to
purchase
as
much
as
you
can
with
that
currency,
it's
not
exiting
the
system
and
selling
it
to
the
next
sucker.
D
C
Yeah
he's
also
assuming
that
everybody's
going
to
dip
out
when
the
price
kind
of
goes
up.
What
you
want
to
do
is
kind
of
have
the
people
in
your
community
have
more
resources
to
spend
on
the
community
and
that's
what
we
see
happening
in
d5,
like
wi-fi,
is
literally
building
an
ecosystem
out
of
thin
air
and
so
like.
If,
if
eos
price
was
20,
bucks,
hypothetically
or
a
thousand,
you
know
what
could
we
do
with
that
amount
of
capital?
Just
you
know,
what
would
you
be
able
to
do
at
everything?
K
K
J
B
J
He
was
saying
that
maybe
it
was
a
shower
coin,
that
there
would
be
a
smart
contract
that
say
had
a
hundred
thousand
eos
worth
of
resources
that
anyone
could
come
in
make
a
transaction
on
the
eos
net
blockchain
without
actually
needing
the
resources
themselves.
The
application
would
just
charge
the
smart
contract
with
a
hundred
thousand
eos
worth
of
resources
seems.
B
A
That
was
the
original
tenant
was
never
incumbent
upon
the
users
themselves
and
it
sounds
like
that.
Wasn't
his
plan
to
begin
with.
He
made
it
sound
like
that
was
a
late
stage,
change
that
originally
users
weren't
supposed
to
have
to
worry
about
resources,
but
they
they
made
that
made
that
the
the
way
it
worked.
I
A
Well,
I'm
excited
about
I'm
excited
about
the
resource
model,
changing
free
up
that
cpu.
I
didn't
agree
with
him
honestly
about
about.
I
really
feel
like
if,
if
block
one
had
unstaked
their
their
cpu,
at
least
it
would
have
freed
up
more
resources,
not
just
for
the
spammers.
It
would
have
freed
up
resources
for
everybody
across
the
whole
in
equal
measure
to
the
amount
of
resources
they
currently
had,
so
it
wouldn't
have
just
given
it
to
the
spammers.
A
A
D
D
K
D
Yeah
I
mean
he's,
never
been
interviewed
by
people
that
have
been
following
the
project
so
closely.
For
so
long
I
mean
ivan,
like
ivan's,
very
familiar
with
like
the
wider
crypto
space
and
especially
ethereum,
but
like
th,
those
interviews
are
for
a
more
general
audience,
the
everything
eos
audience
man
you
guys
are
just
like
just
like
me
and
shaney
and
everyone
else,
it's
just
like
we,
you
have
a
level
of
abstraction.
D
You
don't
have
to
explain
things
because
we
already
know
the
underlying
like
foundation,
knowledge
and
we
could
just
build
upon
that
and
just
have
a
higher
level
conversation.
I
think
that
was
very
valuable.
I
I
agree
that
I've
never
heard
him
discuss
a
lot
of
the
topics
we
brought
up
with
him
and
I'm
just
everly
thankful
that
he
was
willing
to
talk
about
them
publicly
and.
A
K
K
D
D
I
was
making
a
joke,
I'm
sorry,
but
yeah
I
I
was
like
damn.
I
shouldn't
have
did
that
because
he
was
saying
something
that,
like
you,
could
make
a
short
video
clip
of
because
there's
something
important.
I
was
like
damn
I
just
ruined
that
one,
oh
well,
I
I
I
gave
the
gift
of
the
two
and
a
half
hours.
So
sorry.
B
C
H
D
A
N
A
F
A
Maybe
we
could
do
to
see
if
salah
will
get
on
and
do
an
interview,
that'd
be
that'd,
be
pretty
cool
to
have
him
talk
to
the
you
know.
He's
talked
a
lot
to
the
voice
community
and
he
even
mentioned
one
time
about.
You
know
the
relationship
with
eos,
but
he's
never
really
gone
into
any
detail
about
it.
So
an
eos,
an
eo
specific
interview
related
to
the
voice
would
be
cool,
and
then
I
think
this
is
kind
of
a
neat
neat
setup.
N
I
got
a
final.
I
got
a
final
thought
for
you.
If
anyone's
doing
the
d5
and
anyone's
a
d5
d,
gen
dan
mentioned
that
he
just
reiterated
the
hidden
risks
within
these
d5
projects,
even
the
most
the
best
intention
d5
products,
if
they're
offering
over
five
percent.
What
dan
said
is
that
there's
some
hidden
risks
in
the
tokenomics
and.