Everything EOS Everything EOS Live Streams, 10 Aug 2019

Previous Meeting Next Meeting

⏯

youtube image

►

From YouTube: Voice Trademarks, IBC, Developer Onboarding, Proxy Voting and more!

Description

The Everything EOS voter proxy is now live! Please support us by proxying your votes to: 'eeproxy.info'

In this episode, Zack Gall is joined by fellow proxy custodians Mark Woods (12Logics) and Peter Keay (LiquidApps) to discuss the latest news and updates happening around EOSIO.

Links and Topics for this Episode:

EOSIO Developer Courses Update
https://www.everythingeos.io/dev

LiquidApps and LiquidLink
https://medium.com/the-liquidapps-blog/liquidapps-liquidoracles-and-chainlink-together-on-ethereum-eos-blockchains-14ea7ff81364
https://medium.com/the-liquidapps-blog/tal-muskal-vram-cognitive-breakthroughs-in-blockchain-4c8275c3828
https://www.liquidapps.io/ibc

Everything EOS Proxy Votes Token Pocket, EOS Amsterdam, and EOS Nairobi
https://bloks.io/transaction/2c705800bc4b63d306a9bdce76a00d5ba674200862f319cc4f1858c107372823

Voice.com Trademarks Filed
https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/block-one-3583176/

B1 Strategic Vision 4/4
https://eos.io/news/eosio-strategic-vision-enterprise-blockchain-part-4-of-4/
***
Series Sponsor:
Cypherglass - https://www.cypherglass.com
https://www.eosnameservice.io

For more information on sponsorship opportunities or content partnerships, please contact zack@everythingeos.io

https://www.EverythingEOS.io
https://youtube.com/c/Everything_EOS
http://t.me/Everything_EOS
https://anchor.fm/everythingeos
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/everything-eos/id1434560651?mt=2

A

So I'm now working on, so how can we help them? How can they help us and I? Think it's going to be just a magical.

B

A

I mean that I'll get to give you a tour of a wonderful Black's burger. We can do something live-streaming around the campus awesome.

B

So we'll move on to Pete we've got a big update for the eoseo developer courses. They are in the works. What updates could you give us Pete what's going to be in the courses and when can we expect to see them yeah.

C

The next course is called advanced Yoast development, or at least that's the tentative name. It'll probably end up something else. You know, but we're talking about how to work in depth, network stuff, of course, and also things like or ID, and how to text your contract and deploy it to test net and to main net and several other things as well. It'll be a little bit more modular than the first course. The first one was kind of bound to elemental battles, which is I, guess a strength and a weakness.

C

So it's just followed along with elemental battles, this one's gonna be modular like here's, a new technology, here's scatter j/s, here's you al! Here's whatever and throwing up the background for me. There's AK, Nancy, should've warned me there all right and, and so we've got all these these components that you can skip. If you want or watch if you want, it's gonna be exciting a lot of third-party tools.

C

Now this time, not just you know, working on a contract but learning how to integrate with wallets and with technologies that can help adapt and things like that. There's nothing really out there like that, which was the same thing. That was true of the first course and I definitely learned a lot from the first course. Thanks to everybody for their feedback. Sometimes people have been answering questions for other students and I've been pointing things out that we can improve, and it's really been great. It's been great to see so I'm looking forward to it.

C

It's a schedule to come out this month. You know that's August and though it's gonna be fantastic, yeah yeah it might, it might end up being like September, 1st or sometimes.

A

Yeah watch out that's.

B

What happened actually the next part of this series? We said we set a date. I think was the end of April I. Think we got it out like May, 2nd or 3rd, but we got.

C

Yeah, it was submitted to you me in April, but then it took them a little while to approve it. But you know: that's that's our fault, but actually this one it. It might be stalled a little bit because we're working to make sure that it is compatible with the upcoming 1.8 update. 1.8 has maybe some changes and we're gonna make sure that this is ready. Otherwise the course will drop and then it'll be a little bit out of date within a few days. So.

A

I was actually gonna. Ask you that question because one of my biggest I'll say pet peeves was I jumped in and they did the elemental battles for us almost right it when it drops and I think it'd be one like one week. They later had a breaking change that just wrecked all of the work I did and I didn't know if they I broken something or anything else. So that was pretty good. You.

C

Know I I added notes throughout you know this is a new change. You need to be careful because you're right within, like a week, new code dropped for the contract development toolkit and we had to change a cert to check and things like that. And if you don't follow the notes, then the videos for you will result in code that doesn't work. So we want to avoid that, however, possible, so this time really working ahead to make sure that it's ready for all the upcoming updates, but so.

A

Quick, the question Pete: have you all decided how the courses are gonna be pushed to the users? Are the people who have access to the first course gonna have access to these Reds that's they'll kind of in the works? That's.

C

Still in the works, yeah I would love to hear how people think we should do that. Obviously, these aren't free to produce people. A few people were willing to pay for the first course, but thanks to our sponsors, we were able to make it free, safer glass shout out Rob who's, not here, and this time we're still deciding we'll kind of gauge the community. It is more advanced, so you can't I, don't think you could come to this course with zero programming, knowledge and I.

C

Don't think you should even like hop right in after the first course without working a little bit on your own. So if you're waiting for this course go work on some JavaScript, especially and go go play around with the elemental battles, make make an application of your own try to do something custom and get your hands a little bit dirtier so that you'll be ready for this one. So.

A

You peed I will say you made the first mistake of putting a road map out there. You put real dates on it.

C

You know I mean you got to do that right.

B

Iii I think we need to get to the next topic because last.

C

A

B

Two weeks ago, like you guys, we all dropped the tweets with your video dropping the teaser of liquid link, and since then we published the the chain link article and whenever Rob and I tried talking about it, we gave some examples. I I wanted to explain it, but I know Pete. You are the expert explainer of everything. Please tell everybody about what liquid link is, because we've been working really hard with everything: yes Pete personally, liquid apps at onboarding, yo Sai, o developers into the ecosystem.

B

Well, now it's going to get taken a step further we're going to be expanding, that reach to other block chains to get them to develop using tap network which is going to connect to the EOS main net. So now the targets aetherium developers and like out know on blockchain developers to become EO saya developers. So it's really cool, but let's get into liquid leak. Man.

C

So liquid linked uses the dab network to allow chains to talk with each other. They can act with between each other communicate post actions. They can transact in the demo. You CEO switch I. Guess it went to the demo somewhere. Maybe in the demo you CEOs deploying a contract to aetherium, and you see it then transacting with a little bit of ether and.

A

C

Test met, it's all pretty early, it was. It was definitely the first thing we wanted to say about liquid link, which means it's not fully developed out yet, but it was doing it right there on screen and what's exciting about this I think.

C

Is that not only does this mean Neos and aetherium, can you know, sit down over some drinks and chat first, first time in their lives right, but now all the deaf network services can, by extension, also be used by theum applications, as well, so via the dab network via, even though they're provided on EOS I guess a provision doneö. So the SLA is our NES.

C

The DSPs are running on e notes: the dab service providers, but those services can be provided to aetherium applications now as well, which is why we talked a little bit about chain link and how the unique features of liquid Oracle's, which is a liquid apps product that allows apps to get information from the Internet in a way that they can be sure, is trustworthy.

C

This liquid link now allows chain link apps to also integrate liquid Oracle's as another level or as to get more features or to try it out as may be a solution. They want to look into piling into all the way later. So we're talking about a future here where all the block chains can communicate. That's what we envision. That's what we dream about. It's not here at the moment. Right now, liquid link can actually read all the other major block chains. There's a list there I think on the screen.

C

I can read side chains and chains like Bitcoin Bitcoin cash. If you want a ripple, aetherium Cardno and it can gather information from these chains and trigger things on your app. So there's a little bit of communication already going on with all these block chains, but we envision like of this world, where all the block chains can communicate to each other and like Benny or our CEO said. That means that they can all focus on what they're good at and applications can use. The features of all of them force is good at computation now aetherium.

C

If there's an aetherium app that needs some computation, that would be expensive on aetherium, because gas and whatnot in congestion and no capabilities being lower, it can offload that computation, potentially to EOS and so theorem has something that needs to do in its app it offloads computation at us, which means now years, is being used to do that computation and then it gets there's all back and the developers could build it in such a way that maybe there was verification of the computation back on a theorem or that it was spot replicated on etherium, where sometimes you also computed on etherium just to make sure the system is doing its job or and all the results are allowed.

C

Everything is on chain, it's it's just because we're saving resources by kind of offloading doesn't mean the stuff isn't on chain, it's still on chain. So it's it's a great step forward, I think for decentralized communication in between block chains, decentralized services for all the taps and where the future is is so bright.

C

You know I'm I'm, hoping that we can get past as much as I love, use, I, hope we can get past the cultish kind of tendency to pick a protocol and say: oh, that's better than everything it's gonna be best in every way and just everything else will go to zero. That's that's! Not what we're looking at here we're looking at block chains that can communicate with each other and can be strong in what they're good at I think that that's a form of decentralization to be honest right.

C

If there's only one blockchain that anyone can hope to develop on you've kind of centralized things again, there aren't choices their own competitors. So that's that's what I'm really excited about you guys have any questions about liquid link. No.

B

I mean you're just really explained, like I I'm, pretty knowledgeable on it. I mean I deal with it every day, but, like just hearing, you explain it for like an audience who probably knows very little for some of them like that was an excellent explanation. I just want to point out and have you kind of walk through a little bit of it.

B

The the reason for bringing like chain link into the picture like why the comparisons and how we could work together and how a node operator on chain link would actually make a great node operator as a DSP on the DAP network and that's kind of what we've been hinting at and somewhat even seeing with some of these conversations.

C

Right sure, well, obviously, chain link is a project that garnered a lot of interest and it brought the Oracle problem to the forefront in general. The Oracle problem is that you on a blockchain. You can't get data from the outside world because that would make the blockchain not deterministic. In other words, I, don't know if I've explained this on the channel before I'll be brief about it, but when you're running an app on a blockchain, all of the block producers and all the validators and everybody watching has to get the same result.

C

So a contract action goes out there. It says I need information about some sports core or something that has to result in the same results or the validators won't validate what the block producer comes up with because they get a different result. So if the score changes or if the website serves something else or maybe the website is down in the jurisdiction of the particular validator that wrecks the whole system. So you cannot talk to the outside world, and that includes getting information from Bitcoin or etherium, or getting even a random number. Something like that.

C

You can't talk to the outside world from a blockchain application, where liquid Oracle's and liquid apps in general lets you do that, basically, by faking it we have, it depends on the service, but developers can act like the blockchain can do that, but it's actually the DSPs the free market providing that service, and so there's it's still in a decentralized way, but it's not native to the eoseo blockchain right so with chain link things blow up with chain link, and we thought look look at this this great product, that's out there I mean it's obviously needed.

C

How can liquid Oracle's make it better, and if you want to read that as liquid Oracle's is better than chain link, here's, why I understand that? But you could also read it as chain link and liquid Oracle's go well together and have different advantages, so it depends on your application depends on your use case, but we've we've got liquid. Oracle's is more decentralized in some ways the agreements are on chain. The DSP listings are on chain. There's no, like personalized review process. The dabs can verify the data themselves.

C

The dabs can pick what sources they want, which isn't currently true with chain link and pick a motley of sources and then compare them. The dabs can verify that the providers are being honest, there's just a lot more flexibility and we can bring that to chain link when both are integrated and, like you said chain link, operators could also run DSPs. I. Think that's something exciting that we're hoping for.

B

So I'm thinking about oh so I was really disappointed. I mentioned the EO stack interview that I have recorded I'm, just warning everyone that the video isn't gonna, it's gonna be like jumpy, but uh the other podcast I wanted to record this week. We're gonna, livestream I was gonna play. It was I, tried so hard to getting like a two-hour block of time with Thomas Cowell, our CTO, which which is really hard to get his time, because he's always coding and working so I wanted to get him on like a two-hour like 2 or 3.

B

Part episode like interview to get to kind of know him, because, just as I've said you're building up your legendary status, like he's always been a legend people just didn't know him as well like he was in Italy this past week and it ended up falling through because um the internet connection there was just terrible there's, no way that we were gonna, get a room, call goin. Why don't you share one legendary towel story?

B

That'll get people excited for in the next week or two when I'm able to get this thing recorded and get it out to the public.

A

B

Interact with them so much more than I do I know.

C

So many legendary tales stories that I don't know if I can publicly share them.

C

B

Guy, the guy that we, the drums.

C

Whoa don't go any farther. The guy has been a legendary shall we say, has worked in the space has worked in the computing space for a long time and has always wanted to be the person that does something if it hasn't been done before, like anything that hasn't been done, is just a challenge to tell and it's something he tackles, but he's actually a part of Yoshio.

C

So some a debt himself Tao worked at a bank or formerly I, think you guys know that, and the RAM trading protocol Ani is basically, as the bank or algorithm to my knowledge, I'm, not an expert on that, but so yo. So Tala debt as well. In other words the block one, the SiO code does as well and like we got this this picture, we told the story before when.

B

San Fran hackathon I actually have this queued up like I pull.

C

It out before the show and so I met the athan Zak you're across you're, not in the shot, but there's Marc from Tippett there and Evan Schindler's in the foreground and I had five mentors over there asking about this particular problem and tell was the one who helped out we got. The legendary Phil is over there as film.

B

Is legendary team and then in the top right corner is not another.

C

B

Developer- and here we are months almost a year later and we're all together on the same team, all.

C

The props to Phil, but it was told to us who was pointing out what was going on there and I, don't know who even happened to take this shot. Did you take this picture? I didn't.

B

Take it I think.

C

Yeah I, don't know we didn't staged it, but anyway, that's that's around the same time that towel came up with the idea for vram and we just dropped an article called the journey of cognitive breakthroughs or something pretentious like that.

C

Well, it would be pretentious if it was me or somebody else, but you know it really is a journey of cognitive breakthroughs, its towel, telling the story of how he came up with vram and just it's a little technical, but you still check it out, even if you're, not technical, because he he just goes through how it was all thought up really quickly. How can we build the RAM out and then suddenly became this whole layer of services? Fascinating, read, that's the legend I'd point you to right there and it's a legend.

C

That's in the and a legend that is still growing and we'll see where it leads. This.

B

Event this so this is in November at the San Francisco hackathon. This is actually where we met mark woods. Well,.

C

B

C

Oh, is it yeah, it is that's.

B

Where we met him for the first time, I mean well, I might have talked to him online, but I honestly, don't remember if about that, but I, remember, meeting him in San Fran and we've been friends ever since mark.

C

Were you hacking.

B

A

I was yeah yeah. What.

C

Is your team build? Can we get off topic first.

A

Yes, yeah yeah, so it was a really interesting thing: cuz I didn't have a team made up beforehand, so we were doing it all for an online. We put together a team I. Think I was on a team with a guy one guy from Russia one guy from China. It was as hodgepodge of people coming together, which is what actually maybe loved the hackathon.

A

Even more is I got to meet all these people from all over the world with one common purpose, but basically, at a high level we were doing is something like a udemy so basically like what you all are doing with big classes, but a a blockchain based version of that, where, instead of employers, basically paying people to go in I'll, say recruit. This tool can actually train them and then feed people directly into organizations. So it's it's it. It kind of around the whole time where the whole big, big college debt thing was around.

A

So just a way to think about how normal colleges today I mean what half of your classes? Basically don't, really correlate to what you do in the real world. How can we streamline at that and and get bit teachers potentially making more money so so have a bit of great big teachers, be rewarded for creating great big content? So that's.

B

Awesome, I don't think we should did we shout-out mark stairs in this video or in this picture. I.

C

Just I just did yeah that's my Stephan man I tell you he they ran with it. Well yeah. When those guys showed up and joined our team I, don't even remember how we got together. I think you guys found him right. You and Evan yeah.

B

We're in the same boat mark, we me Evan, Schindler who's been on the show before and Pete we just went there. We didn't have a full team and we knew we needed, probably at least one more dev, if not to so so we linked up with some randoms also, and it just happened to be to two guys from the tippet team and like they've, been crushing it ever since, like I, never heard of tippet before that or them necessarily but like since then like well,.

C

They mail moves in they use, I mean you can see it. You can tip ears, so you can tip I think you could tip Morty's now yeah. You.

B

Know yeah you could.

C

Tip Morty's now right in telegram and maybe in Twitter too it's just you can you could just send people tips with cryptocurrency. It's it's.

A

Awesome I've seen people do India tipping the I gang poins for yang gang yep, yeah.

B

Man we've been BS and man we got, we got to get to the the votes so.

C

B

Is voted proxy we we've only screen so up until now, we've only had 23 of our votes selected, the first 20 we're based on taking nine other proxies that we trust and we aggregated them, and we saw who is voted for on the majority of all of these proxies. That's gonna lock in our top 20, because, honestly, the top 20 there's really not any contention up. I'll pull up our votes up on screen here that we currently have and we're about to make three more right in front of you right now.

B

So our three votes I mean I'm, not gonna, read them out, but you can see the candidate votes on the screen. If you're listening, I'm sorry, you could watch this on YouTube, but it's it's all the top favorites not really much contention, not gonna find anyone that doesn't like grey maseo's 42, yes, Rio New York, but but the last 10 are always the hardest, because there's more than 30 good block producers.

B

So as a committee as everything he owes proxy voting committee, whatever we want to call ourselves, it's been very difficult to get through these last 10 picks, but but we've we've already made them kind of internally and we're trying to kind of slow drip them out to give extra attention to every block producer who we picked, because that that's part of the benefit of us supporting a block producer is we're going to put that spotlight on your block producer and let everyone else know that even if they're not using our proxy, maybe they should vote for you so I'm gonna.

B

Let Pete kick this off, because I'm gonna get my blocks. I go set up. I'm gonna see how hard this will be to run. This vote live on the air here, oh you're,.

A

Gonna, do it I'm gonna.

B

Try I'm, probably gonna, look like an idiot not end up. We might have to do it after the show, but you're.

C

Gonna vote for I know you're not running through block producers right now, I know.

B

The hard part about doing this live we talked about this before we went on is to do this live like when you vote for block producers. You can't just like add three block producers. You have to vote for all your previous block producers and then add the more the three additional ones, but I think right.

C

B

Think blocks Auto populates. It, though so why don't? Why don't you make your pick I'll, throw the graphic up on screen and then I'll be quiet for a minute great.

C

Yeah my pick in consultation with the team. My pick is token pocket and token pocket. You might be familiar with it. It's a wallet that I used on iOS and I. You know, they've got wallets solutions for the platforms too, and a recently other wallets. Sadly, meatwad and links I think have kind of gotten rid of their gap, store feature on Apple there's some kind of restriction.

C

Right now token pockets app store still survives, so I hope it's going to keep going, but I use it for theory and apps Yoast apps and it supports iOS teed apps Bossip supports several chains right. There I think it's six or seven chains so far and they keep chugging along. They implement new things really quickly. They've got a responsive team. They've got a developer tools, kind of catalog that they maintain, which we're going to get liquid apps on, because I didn't know about that.

C

Until quite recently, they've got a adapt kind of a adapt store, not a store. That's not the right word catalog, where you can check out nude, apps and everything. It runs great on the iOS wallet. In my experience, it's one that I recommend and that's token pocket doing great things for the ecosystem, making it easier than ever to use.

C

Dabs I don't even have to use multiple wallets for my aetherium taps, which I do have a theory about believe and my ear snaps and even I OST taps right, which I also dabble in a little bit right. All these taps, they're in one spot now can have multiple accounts can handle voting, can handle resources can claim rewards when appropriate, can all sorts of things in the token pocket wallet. My vote is for token pocket all.

B

Right great choice, I think I, remember if they were unanimous or not I, don't really want to speak to that most of these votes. So out of our 30 votes, we've picked like we have all thirty selected, we're just kind of dripping them out.

B

Almost all of them were unanimous, so I'd, say I, think 26 or 20 26 of what the 30 votes were all unanimous, which means all five of us on the committee said yes to these block producers, and then we had a couple that were I, think tied for like three votes and then that's how we had to determine our final three or four. But congratulations to token pocket.

B

500, plus thousand new votes make the votes as soon as we make the second and third pick mark. Who is your pick for the everything yos proxy I? Don't want to call this a draft, but for the top see all.

A

Right said, my pick: we got to meet the guys at the EE they're 31 May event is the EOS Nairobi.

B

A

Way, but it Congrats the guys from yes Nairobi I, mean I think it goes without saying you see the amount of community work that they do in personally. I feel like the area of the world that the blockchain is going to the impact, the most the quickest and that's it. Yes, my Robi guys I just want to leave it. There I mean just go check them out. They hold meetups training events, education, they are pushing it really hard. So thinking, Brett's, alright,.

B

I guess that means I'm up here, I'm trying to get all these graphics up. So a big part. We've got a lot of people reaching out of like what we're looking for in a block producer like what what could a there's so many good ones like what could a block producer do to get an edge on the votes and, honestly, the biggest thing a block bruiser could do? Is you have to obviously meet the minimum requirements? You have to have great infrastructure, preferably bare metal, but not a requirement.

B

You have to have a great community of your own. You have to communicate well, you have to be building really cool stuff potentially, but that's not all we we we enjoy from you, but being part of our community is probably one of my top criteria. I look into is being active in the everything is telegram channel, responding to our tweets being in this live chat right now for the live streams in any future live stream, and one of the teams that came out strong whenever we announced the proxy is AOS Amsterdam.

B

So that's my pick is EOC Amsterdam, mainly because of one sebastian from word proof. We've talked about word proof so many times he's part of their team connected to their team he's also in amsterdam. He is super active in our community, always in touch with me: expanding es io to a global wordpress community in the millions es amsterdam they put out a great article.

B

So while I was setting up this proxy, I ran into all kinds of troubles trying to figure out how to do these multi SIG's and they just coincidentally on like July 15th, put out a great blog article that I used as an excellent reference on how to set up the multi-sig transactions. So that was so helpful to me. They're working hard on Europe chain and I know.

B

This is a OS main that block producers, but they're leading the way on Europe chain which is going to be a GDP, are compliant chain and that's especially interesting because they have GDP our experience. The word proof guys they have a GDP, our plug-in on WordPress, that has million I, think a million active users. So there's a million websites out there that are using a GDP are plug and built by this team.

B

It's not es IO related, but they're, very familiar with that and later on, in the show when we get into the strategic vision we'll get into that a little bit more and they have strong cybersecurity background, but just a great team. So that's my vote is euros Amsterdam, so I actually already made the votes. Well, you guys weren't. Looking so now.

C

We are up to 20.

B

What are we up to 26 votes now? We got four more to go, I think so. We will continue this if we don't get them out during the week next week. I think Rob and I will clear out whatever is not voted for so next week, we'll have our 30 bps and then we're gonna start making the difficult decisions of who's in and who's out and those are gonna, be really difficult decisions but I think it's fair that we're going to rotate block producers I.

B

We don't have an exact frequency set up, but we're constantly in communication with each other, the five of us in a proxy Channel of ours. So there's gonna constantly be ongoing discussion, if someone's not in our top 30, and they do something. Awesome. They're, probably gonna, get voted for within a week and we're gonna talk about it on this show and put the spotlight on them on what exactly they did and why it's important, just real.

A

Quick Zach I have to put Pete and JP on the spot. We need your to be a single block. Producer. Videos, like all of the rest of us, did well. We can all make fun of each other.

B

A

C

If you, if you and J pulling.

A

B

You JP get your individual votes out, then Rob and I will finish him off next Friday on the live stream or Saturday. Whenever we do it, but we got we got to get that done. Man we got to get these votes out.

B

Iii think there might be people who are holding off on voting for us and please proxy votes to e proxy info, but there might be some people who would hang off until we get all 30 votes and that's respectable so I'm gonna get to these these thirty and then hopefully, we'll be able to pick it up the goal. We want to break a million. We got to double our votes, but but that's our short-term goal here and I hope we could do it by being loud in the community talking about governance issues.

B

This episode is not gonna cover governance because we're already going pretty long. I'm actually gonna skip the Blumer topic here guys because I just want to want to get through this to the exciting part, and it's something I found through my digging and it's block one filing the voice, trademarks. So I gotta find the actual link here.

B

But if you guys remember back in I, don't even remember when this was like last December, maybe last November, we actually thought we were the first to break the news of block one filing trademarks for miios and a OS X, and at the time we believed that those were going to be the names of the the block, 1 decks and also the b1 wallet which the B one wallet ended up. Turning into just the EOS Authenticator app.

B

But here they are up on the screen and I regularly check this every couple weeks- and this is probably a big reason why this happened. But I noticed when I checked. Most recently, all of these trademarks were filed for The, Voice logos, voice, comm voice and then the the new Yas logo that they use also and what I found was when you click into them.

B

They weren't filed until June 6th and what I think the reason behind that was is because they didn't want spoilers coming out, spilling the beans on the name and the domain for voice. Sorry guys, you.

A

Had him scared, Zach, all.

B

Your I would have found.

A

B

Would have found it, but unfortunately it wasn't me that spilled the damn beans. It was Bloomberg. Remember that stuff, Bloomberg.

C

B

Before b1 June drops the name of voice, but what I wanted to point out here? We've all been wondering like what's going on with voice? Are they waiting for 1.8? What are they waiting for? Well, I just want to throw out some new speculation, I think they're, waiting on regulation I'm personally, how about I'm personally not expecting voice and I hope to be surprised until early 2020 at the earliest? Are you guys expecting it any sooner, because I know there's people who think it might get deployed after 1.8, but I?

B

Don't personally see that happening like right? After necessarily.

A

Ok, for me, I think it depends on what they do with the token allocation, if, if they sort of turn that, if faucet off or have in some way to get around that I don't know, maybe sooner B I'm thinking q4 would be I'd, be surprised if it's q4 2019 but probably 2020, I I, do know and I think we're gonna touch on this in a little bit, so just be quickly that they are hiring all sorts of their roles right now in the relation to a social media platform.

A

But we can pull that up in a minute.

B

Last thing I want to just point out is that this status, the most recent status update here on voice is you can see up on. Your screen is July 16th and it says priority action mailed, which I didn't know what that meant. I had to Google it myself, but what it means is I'll, read it out loud here, it's like I, don't think I could put it up on the screen.

B

What this means is that, if you receive this notice, the examining attorney has issued a refusal of the trademark, but they view the obstacles as minor, because the issues are likely minor and could be addressed quickly. The office action is a priority action. You can respond within two months and then the examiner will respond on an expedited basis.

B

So what that means is that the trademark for voice is currently hung up right now for its approval, and it seems like it's likely to get approved for the trademarks, but there's some small request that the trademark office had from block 1, so block 1 needs to respond to that and get the final approval. So I think this is another thing that I found that might be holding back a lot of the market. Well, I, don't think they're gonna market till they have a final product.

B

But it's just one more thing: that's potentially holding back the voice push is that they don't have their trademarks ready. Yet they go to get that stuff set in stone so that no one can steal their IP. So I found that I'll put the link in the description so that you could dive into this stuff deeper. There's a lot of nuggets in here that I'm not gonna get into.

B

If you read through like the goods and services on each of these trademarks, you can get a really good idea of what they're trying to do with voice, because you could see all of the use cases and reasons that they want to protect against their name. So I'll put that link in the description I'll actually put in the live chat now, since I'm able to do that. But after the show, I'll put it in the live notes, I think.

A

The most curious thing about their voice is going to be how they do the beta test is, will the beta be switched on and let's say you can't send the voice the tokens out of the app and there's some way to try to mitigate that the regulatory issues? That's what I'm really curious to see how they're gonna handle this.

C

Isn't beta going to be on a testament? Well, that's.

A

What we don't know, because, if it was, they could do it right now, mm-hmm.

B

Yeah, so that's the thing is like 1.8 spent on all the test nuts for a really long time.

B

One of the reasons, the main that takes so long to get 1.8 is because I think it has to replay the whole chain which takes some time to, but just like the planning going into it, there's a lot more to lose on the main net, but there would have been nothing holding them back from deploying on a jungler, Kyle and TAS net or, as they've mentioned in their strategic vision, which we're about to get into they want to deploy their own test nuts and stuff.

B

This would be a have been a good reason to do that and it hasn't happened yet. So that's one of the reasons. I don't believe. 1.8 is the only thing holding them back, because if it was, they could have deployed their own test net and let us play around with it or done it on jungle, work island, and we haven't seen that so it's still waiting game, bloomer came out of hiding and finally communicated with the community.

B

He made two tweets recently didn't really say much, so you can't really gather too much from it, but I think that's been one of the most frustrating parts is that there is all this activity leading up to be won-jun, not all just hi be there, because some of it was like them saying, don't expect too much, but then everyone just disappeared like there's. Nothing being talked about, and I've heard some pretty good reasons behind that.

B

Like the way the government, like kind of reacted to the libre announcements and stuff kind of might have made them hold back on, like wanting to do too much too soon, but I don't know, I, don't have any inside information on this I'm waiting for it. Just like everyone else, but I am super excited.

B

We saw some new voting proposals come out recently, Tok Anika came out with a pretty good one, but it would, in my opinion, be reliant on voice to implement, but they had they had a workaround for that, but I'm not going to get into that. We've been going a little long. Let's, let's get into the final topics here, which is the next one's the strategic vision and who.

A

B

To hit this one.

A

To go for exact.

A

I mean when that we were all talking earlier, I mean I completely agree. Has that crawled out the point that the biggest thing that's that jumped out to me was just the token creation piece and how that may kind of they allow things like the voice did token there's in the future to be more easily deployed to it may net over any chain. That's they're running yes, so that was the big one for me and it seemed like.

A

It was interesting because a lot of the things in here sort of tie into what we see, people like strong bloc trying to hit yeah.

B

So, like the first I have it up on the screen now so I'll just walk through the first one high-performance consensus, algorithms duh like everyone's working on that, like that, that's not really a surprise, but what I thought was interesting. Was this piece on the tools for regulatory compliance? They specifically call it out: GD P R, and how like that that I've heard this from multiple sources, that this is a huge sticking point with regulation is GD P, R and the right to be forgotten so like with an immutable blockchain.

B

How could you ever be forgotten on anything so that that's like a huge, a piece of the puzzle? That's trying to be solved right now is like once something's put on the blockchain. How do you encrypt it or hide it or make it like remove it like? How do you, like, maybe decrypt it then re encrypted I, don't know the different ways they're trying to solve this problem, but, as they pointed out, it's a major issue, security, obviously with web authentic.

B

This was interesting to see their priority is the token creation, I think mark kind of mentioned it a little bit ago, but they want to make it super simple, for anyone to create their own tokens and I.

B

Think that's going to be interesting because right now, there's still barrier of entry to creating your token, even if you want your token to be completely worthless and just be like almost like a toy like like almost like me, sending you a sticker, that's completely worthless, it's just like a keepsake or like an NF T, it's still really difficult to do. You still have to have some programming experience or know someone who does to get this deployed. There's no front-end interface to make it happen and I think that's something that they might be working on.

B

I I know, there's other teams that are working on this too. So I think that is is going to be awesome, though the more you can lower the barrier of entry to for creating a token, the more people are going to see the value of the token, and it's not tokens, aren't just for speculating or Moo going up in price or down in price. They don't always even have to have a utility.

B

They could just be keeping a score of some sort, so I think the easier it will be to create tokens the better it will be for the whole token economy and it kind of goes 9. Once you see the es dak episode, we recorded they're bringing down the inch lowering the barrier of entry for creating a DAC they're building front-end tools, that's gonna, make it point-and-click to deploy your own DAC and I.

B

Think that's going to be huge because you could start a DAC for anything you'd sort of Zack for your book club, but right now, there's just such a high barrier of entry that we're not seeing like experiments happening on Dax and we're not seeing experiments happening on tokens and the ones that we are seeing. Experiments on. You usually that there's a lot of financial risk involved, so I'm excited to see it become really easy to do for just like the layperson I think we got through our topics. Everything else is optional.

B

I know someone in the live, chat, I, don't know if it's still up on the screen they asked. If, if liquid apps is hiring remote developers, we're always looking for the best talent III Pete's unit. Are we still? Are we actively looking right now? Do you know.

C

Remote developers reach out.

B

If you're, the.

A

B

World at what you do, we want to talk to you if you're a Nathan Rempel we're at Peter K. We want you on our team, we're putting together the Avengers, that's kind of been like the theme we've been pushing because, like we are the Avengers, we are the best in the world at what we do and like Peter and I remem, oh the annuals remote. So we have remote employees.

B

Then someone else asked if block ones, hiring I, think they're, always hiring and that's kind of something mark wanted to hit on before we sign out the one difference here is block one you have to work in office, so you have to be willing to move to Blacksburg Hong Kong, Washington, DC or Los Angeles, but there is a crapload of jobs in all of those jurisdictions. You want to hit on that real quick mark and then we'll take this home yeah.

A

Quickly, yeah um and I, they sent you one link in the telegram to pull up quickly. I forgot to drop yeah one little nugget around the Virginia Tech stuff, but yeah so for any of you all have been interested in working at the block one. Obviously so the first thing that was interesting was it one is the recently hired a new VP of a product, so I think zach.

A

Has it up on the screen here now, so it's head qahal recently started so it's like about two months ago, so it seems like he's, he's gonna be the left hand and the right hand with a Greg Lee. So it seems like those two are gonna, be the top of the whole engineering kind of program office that feed up into good day and obviously so. That was an interesting hire to see.

A

But then, if you hop over to the b-1a website um kind of as I crawled out plug for, if you have any background in the social media content moderation, any type of skills like that, anyone is hiring all these sorts of roles related to the b1, obviously meet the future in social media and obviously I'm there recently is you don't have to go to the Blacksburg. They are starting to spin up there be a satellite office in the Northern Virginia area, which is just outside in Washington.

A

So if you're more prone to a bigger city, they have roles there as well, so I would say I mean they are hiring hiring hiring. If you have any questions of how to best getting fit lots of people there, please feel free to reach out I'm happy to help yeah yeah.

B

I mean if you read between the lines on a lot of these positions, you kind of could see where they're going like content moderators a lot of SEO content specialists like they're ramping up their marketing they're ramping up their legal, always their communications, they're they're, having community relations advocates in like every market head of communications, talent, acquisition in multiple markets, so I mean they're doing so. I wish we heard more from them, but they are doing stuff from what I understand and from from what Marc's been telling me from other.

B

Like private conversations, he's been having there's a lot of stuff happening, but we don't have to rely on block one to make egos great like we're doing a ton of stuff at liquid apps there's a ton of other teams teams like shinty that are just making things better. So we we don't need to be reliant on block one for everything, but obviously we want all their stuff that they promise. We want ESI 2.0, which I forgot to mention earlier I.

B

Think so now that part four of four of the strategic visions been released and 1.8 s about to be deployed. The next thing coming, everyone is Co co2, so I don't know when it's going to be, but I would expect it to be announced within like the next month or two or three. It's going like they've always released.

B

The next update of release, candidates, release candidates of yo Co code, every couple months for the last two years and they're they're, most likely going to stick to that pattern, and the next thing after 1.8 is 2.0, so I'm really looking forward to seeing what they have in store for that I want to see more from iOS VM I want to see the web authentic off, but there's a lot to be excited about. Is there anything that the two of you want us to cover before we sign off here?.

C

Yeah, go ahead good to go thanks.

B

Guys, you guys remember how we sign off here on everything. Yes, let's.

C

See if we can hit it.

B

Alright I'm gonna go first, then you guys I'll. Do it alright, so guys until next week, sometime you'll see me talking to EOS stack and then you'll see me again at the end, the next week with Rob I'm signing off I'm Zack go I'm, mark woods, I'm, Peter K, and this.

A

B

Go smash the thumbs up. Everyone share. The video I will see you all next.