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Stan Larimer and Michael Taggart join Zack Gall, Max Dapp, and Jacques Whales discuss BEOS and the early dApps planning to launch on their EOSIO sisterchain including Quintric, Ruon, Sovereign Sky, and the Mission Space telescope.
BEOS
https://www.beos.world
Sovereign Sky Space-based Blockchain
https://sovereignsky.com
Quintric Legal Tender Crypto
https://quintric.com
Ruon Social Media Platform
https://ruon.io
Mission Space Telescope
https://missionspace.one
Max Dapp
https://www.youtube.com/c/maxdapp
EOS Discussions
https://eos.discussions.app
Zack Gall (Shameless Twitter Plug)
https://twitter.com/BlockchainZack
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Lot
of
companies-
businesses,
investors,
banks-
you
need
I'm
routinely
on
calls
with.
You
know
some
of
the
top
banks
in
the
world.
You
know
once
twice
a
month
and
discussing
in
particular
blockchain
technology
and
integration
of
that
stuff.
The
questions
always
come
up
to
different
things.
Like
you
know,
governance
of
the
chain-
or
you
know,
block
producers
who
they
are
things
like
that.
You
know
when
people
build
something
on
a
on
a
protocol
where
they
want
to
be
assured
that
it's
going
to
be
there,
you
know
for
their
business.
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It's
kind
of
hard
to
you
know,
tell
investors,
otherwise
you
know
and
to
explain
that
to
them.
That's
a
big
reason.
One
of
the
reasons
is
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people
been
monitoring
yachts.
You
know
it's
kind
of
hard
to
ignore,
coming
out
there
and
raising
billions
of
dollars
and
really
just
come
in
there.
I
mean
now
that
was
a
knockout
punch
just
coming
in
and
it
really
got
raised
attention,
but
the
problem
is
people
would
say
well
this
bit
here
is
gonna
stay.
D
You
know
competitive,
you
know
what
what
does
this
mean
for
bitshares?
You
know
and
stuff
like
that,
as
a
portion
that
was
the
most
constant
and
regardless
of
the
answer,
regardless
for
the
fact
that
I
could
feel
like
this
year's
is
fine,
we'll
be
fine,
even
if
it
maybe
didn't
have
that
sidechain
function
that
we're
offering
with
the
US
you
know
coming
in
their
next
community.
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Tokens
to
port
over
to
a
pitcher's
based
environment,
EOS
tokens
can
pork
into
the
video
bounce
blockchain
right
now
and
back
out,
even
though
that's
not
the
main
function
that
we're
really
talking
about
really
we're
in
this
rainfall
period.
So
we're
just
kind
of
showcasing
the
fact
that
make
sure
his
big
tokens
can
be
reissued
over
on
that
chain.
I'm
through
our
gateway,
currently,
eventually
we're
gonna
introduce
a
trustless
gateway,
basically,
no
counterpart
arena.
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It's
like
for
the
cookies
to
go
crosses,
that's
one
big
reason:
reporting
of
smart
assets,
hopefully
bitusd,
and
it
seemed
like
porting
over
te
austin
being
used
over.
There
might
see
increased
usage
and
increased
usage
of
pictures
being
locked
up
as
collateral
to
create
those
smart
assets.
Those
are
a
couple
of
things,
one
of
them.
You
know
this
is
kind
of
an
evening.
D
Workaround
people
have
said
the
big
wanted
to
see
ledger
neo,
nano
ledger,
support
for
bitshares,
and
so
with
eos
with
the
AUSA
khalid,
you
can
store
your
rich
shares
based
yeah
Vyasa
tokens
on
a
ledger,
so
some
led
to
support,
and
so
some
some
kind
of
security
like
that
for
people.
Those
are
all
big
functions.
What
the
biggest
one
really
was:
the
ability
for
trustless
blockchain
interoperability,
so
just
the
ability
for
eventually
right
now
we
have
to
use
a
gateway,
and
you
know
we're
counterparty
and
that.
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We
take
probably
of
work
for
us
to
be
able
to
port
it
over
so
yeah.
You
know
short
answer
and
the
idea
is,
for
you
know,
until
I've
been
around
the
block
team
stuff
for
a
long
time
and
I,
don't
know
how
everybody
else
feels
about.
You
know
the
tribalism
and
stuff
that
goes
on
there.
I
think
healthy,
and
so
it
isn't
I
think
the
the
whole
thing
is
that
the
simple
fact
is
that
we're
all
kind
of
on
the
same
team
when
it
comes
to
mindset
and
what
it
is.
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So
when
we
even
would
be
nuts
like
our
intention,
was
to
go
and
eventually
be
able
to
pour
over
ERC
20
tokens
even
we'll
get
to
other
types
of
tokens
flag
on-
maybe
waves
and
stuff
like
that,
but
really
the
big
stuff
just
being
able
to
allow
those
tokens
to
just
cross
change.
So
they
could
actually
go
onto
the
big
three
consensus
type
chains.
You
know
your
guy.
Yes,
you
got
your
here's.
D
Why
did
you
go
to
your
OC
ones
and
then
it
really
just
becomes
a
fact
of
function
of
what
the
user
really
wants
to
do
with
it,
and
then
what
the
debt
developers
are
doing
on
each
of
those
chains
to
provide
a
value.
For
that
token,
you
know
I
think
it's
better
for
everybody
to
just
focus
on
the
dabs
itself,
rather
than
necessarily
the
blockchain
development
part
of
it,
because
in
developing
block
chains
and
then
running
them
as
a
panic,
gasps
yeah.
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I
think
you
learn
a
good
course
what
you're
saying
about
the
tribalism
thing
as
well,
because
like
when
you
reviewed
apps
right,
you
go
into
like
the
telegram
group
of
adapt.
If
you
it's
literally
like
a
parallel
universe
between
like
EOS
and
Tron,
and
it's
all
the
same
stuff
is
happening,
but
we
don't
communicate
with
each
other
and
the
grander
pill,
yeah
you're.
So
right
and
it
kind
of
feels
like
it's
not
the
right
way
to
go.
It's
like
email
at
the
beginning.
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It's
like,
if
you
have
a
Google
account,
you
still
use
Yahoo
and
I,
realize
the
same
thing
now
whatever,
but
in
back
in
the
day,
a
o,
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and
Google,
or
whatever
you'd,
still
use
both
emails,
but
at
the
moment
we're
kind
of
like
isolating
ourselves.
So
what
you're
saying
with
the
whole
meshing
it
together?
It's
so
important
in
my
in
my
opinion,
man
could.
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Well,
it
does
time
with
the
oxygen
quite
a
bit
so
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
Stan
and
I.
Well,
a
few
years
ago,
Stan
and
I
had
been
talking
about
the
want
to.
We
have
big
gold
on
on
bit
chairs,
but
there's
no
collateralization,
there's
you
know
kind
of
big
price
TVs,
which
is
cool
and
it's
great
experiment,
but
we
wanted
to
do
something
more.
We
also
both
are
big
proponents
of
sound
money
and
kind
of
going
back
to
a
gold
standard
for
better
or
so
we're
all
here.
Talking
about.
D
And
crypto
and
digital
stuff,
but
there
is
a
way
to
tie
in
I,
think
physical,
real
world
values
and
the
way
to
redeem
those
things
and
the
digital
values,
and
so
we
wanted
to
not
just
provide
a
really
great
example
of
that,
but
provide
I.
Think
the
best
example
of
that
which
is
sound
money,
gold
and
silver
bagged
money.
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Now
a
lot
of
people
have
done
the
blockchain,
stuff
or
they've
tried
to
secure
ties
or
or
commoditize
gold
or
precious
metals
and
stuff
like
that,
in
fact,
there's
probably
a
couple
hundred
of
them
that
have
been
attempted
or
are
ongoing
or
are
trying
to
launch
right
now.
Acne,
given
time
and
I've,
actually
got
a
really
great
chart
that
kind
of
compares
what
we've
done
with
twin
trick
versus
everybody
else.
The
biggest
thing
that
we've
done
that
is
different
than
anybody
else,
is
that
we
are
100%
reserved
on
deposit.
D
We
have
insurance
by
Lloyds
of
London.
We
have
8k
cameras,
pointed
at
all
of
the
gold
and
silver
in
the
vault,
so
you
can
actually
view
it
and
see
it
from
the
time
it's
set
in
the
vault
and
you
can
rewind.
It's
not
in
time-lapse
for
anything
like
that,
so
it's
all
stored
on
a
server
that
you
review.
You
can
zoom
in
to
the
lot
numbers.
You
can
see
it's
all
there
on
stuff
and
you
can
actually
reconcile
the
amount
of
gold.
That's
sitting
there
and
evolve
with
the
amount
that's
in
circulation
on
the
blockchain.
D
D
No
so
so
they're
the
owners
of
the
gold
are
actually
the
people
who
will
buy
those
particular
tokens.
We
acted
almost
as
the
custodian
as
it
has
Odeon
/
escrow
agent,
so
we
hold
that
gold.
We
don't
own,
it
they're,
not
signing
it
over
to
us,
like
you
do
when
you
put
your
cash
in
the
bank
or
anything
like
that,
we
are
merely
a
custodian
of
that.
We
have
certain
rules,
we
have
to
follow,
and
then
you
know
when
they
cash
in
or
out
or
anything
like
that.
D
D
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E
D
Kind
of
deal
right
so
you've
got
this
digital
token,
backed
by
gold
and
silver,
international
or
domestic.
You
know
legal
tender,
you
can
send
it
anywhere
in
the
world
in
about
a
second,
you
know
if
confirmed
transactions,
and
then,
if
you
want
that
gold
or
silver,
you
just
send
it
back
to
us
at
our
vault
we
and
we
owned
vault.
So
it's
not
like
contracting
with
the
vault.
Somebody
just
sees
the
land
or
vault
from
us
or
anything.
You
said
it's
all
and
we
will
send
you
the
gold
and
silver.
D
D
No
on
this
show
and
we're
actually
producing
a
new
bills
with
these,
but
what
I
want
to
say
about
this
is
very
simple.
As
them,
we've
got
serial
number
serial
numbers
on
all
the
bills.
They
don't
know
if
you
can
see
the
lower
end
numbers
they're,
those
go
to
a
corresponding
wallet
address
bitshares
network
with
won't
open
in
there,
and
you
can
verify
that
those
are
in
there.
So
you
can
accept
the
bill
physically
right
boom.
D
Now
you
can
take
this
bill
and
send
it
back
to
us,
and
we
can
either
give
you
digital
tokens
and
drop
them
in
your
account
or
you
can
cash
it
out
for
fiat
currencies
or
you
can
cash
it
out
for
the
gold
and
silver
legal
tender
coin
into
a
tool
then
send
to
you.
So
it
puts
the
whole
thing
full
circle:
it
it's
a
monetary
system
based
on
value.
It's
a
legal
monetary
system,
that's
internationally
recognized
and
domestically
in
the
u.s..
It's
an
alternative
to
the
US
dollar
and
Federal
Reserve
notes,
and
it's.
D
Right
and
we're
starting
to
produce
one
fives,
tens,
20s
and
50
denominations
of
these
bills,
and
our
goal
is
essentially
to
release
these
bills
in
the
state
of
Utah,
first
as
legal
tender
in
the
state
of
Utah
for
the
state
of
Utah
legal
tender
specific
and
then,
as
we
work
our
way
around
of
some
of
the
other
states.
Now
our
legal
counsel,
slash
partner
on
this-
has
helped
several
states
draft
the
bills
that
they
have
been
enacted
for
gold
and
silver
legal
tender.
D
A
This
is
the
first
I've
seen
this
money,
I
kind
of
want
to
know
what
the
long-term
plan
is
for
it,
because
it
seems
to
me
like
I
guess
to
have
that
hand
to
hand
in
our
interaction
makes
sense,
but
it
seems
like
it's
moving
backwards.
So
if
you
go
to
look
at
cashless
society
like
China,
for
example,
they
use
WeChat
for
everything
you,
you
tip
a
homeless
person
by
scanning
their
QR
code
on
their
phone.
So
if
that's,
where
we're
going,
what
use
does
III
know
it
has
some
gold
in
it.
D
D
Fully
digital
monetary
society
is
very
dangerous,
so
I
think
you
know
and
I
think
that
you
deserve
to
have
some
privacy
of
transactions,
and
this
would
enable
you
to
have
a
layer
of
that.
You
know
there's
an
ultimate
redemption
source
at
the
end
of
the
day,
but
as
people
continue
to
accept
it,
you
don't
have
to
necessarily
go
and
redeem
it
for
that
underlying
value.
The
new
bills
will
actually
have
the
entire
amount
of
gold
in
the
bill.
This
is
kind
of
like
a
fractional
type
of
bill.
D
We're
about
eight
dollars
of
goal
is
in
the
bill
and
about
thirty.
Two
dollars
is
vaulted
that,
and
so
you
can
send
the
bill
in
and
you
can
redeem
it
the
other
bills.
New
bills
will
have
the
entire
amount
of
gold
in
that
bill.
That
doesn't
do
my
company
any
good,
because
I
actually
would
make
me
money
on
the
transactions
you
know
with
those
and
we've
we've
actually
debated
that
quite
a
bit.
It's
actually
a
really
great
question
that
you
ask
there
is.
D
Why
would
we
want
to
do
this
because
we're
screwing
ourselves
a
transactional
fees?
We
keep
it
digital,
we're
raking.
It
out
all
day,
but
it
comes
down
to
people
want
these
and
you
imagine
going
to
your
farmers
market
and
instead
of
using
your
shitty,
you
know
US
dollars.
You
can
use
these
and
having
these
specific
to
municipalities
having
me
specific
to
States
and
stuff,
like
that
kind
of
the
way
it
was
meant
to
when
when
and
I
were
here,
maybe
a
US
citizen,
but
that's
the
way
it
was
meant
to
be
in
the
Constitution.
D
So
it's
pretty
interesting
yeah.
So
people
are
talking
that
a
little
bit
and
I
think
the
other
main
argument
people
have
is
that
okay,
you
know
you're
involved
in
this
stuff,
how
you
know,
how
can
I
trust
you?
Well,
you
know
that's
just
one
of
those
things.
You
know
track
record
and
proofing
and
whatnot.
One
of
the
reasons
we
put
it
in
you,
sighs,
because
Utah
is
a
very
good
jurisdiction
for
gold
and
silver
for
I.
Don't
want
to
say
anti-federalists,
but
they
are.
E
D
Let
the
federal
government
come
in
there
and
just
tell
them
what
to
do.
The
State
Attorney
General
actually
is
a
customer
of
the
sister
service
of
this
of
what
we
set
up
there.
So
he
actually
has
used
the
gold
and
silver
service
there
and
the
credit
card
be
can
swipe
at
the
registers
and
stuff
like
that.
So
I
mean
he's
familiar
with
all
this
stuff,
and
they've
already
vowed
that
if
the
gold
confiscation
were
to
happen
again
like
what
happened
previously
with
FDR
that
they
would,
they
would
be.
D
B
E
B
D
Well,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
ways
to
get
goods.
If
you
guys
want
to
contact
me,
you
can
and
I
can
tell
you
how
the
holdup
in
the
new
run,
I
don't
know
if
we'd
have
any
of
these
left.
Somebody
just
came
in
there
and
bought
I
think
everything
we
made
on
our
production
run,
which
was
like
a
million
dollars
worth
or
something
like
wow.
That's,
that's,
that's
crazy,
they're
beautiful
and
we
did
it.
D
We
did
a
deal
with
the
company
in
the
I
think
you
bought
just
all
of
them
that
we
had,
but
that
they're
reporting
it
all
over
the
bay
outs.
You
know
our
video
has
an
inherent
collateralization
of
a
small
amount
of
this
just
to
have
an
ultimate
for
prices,
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
to
kind
of
make
some
of
the
legal
layers
of
the
dopant
distribution,
because
when
you
distribute
a
token
or
anything
of
value,
you
are
potentially
putting
people
at
risk
for
taxable
events
and
all
sort
of
done.
B
Absolutely
yeah
so
drop
the
link
of
where
people
could
find
you.
This
discuss
the
topic
drop
the
telegram.
So
next
we're
gonna
have
Carlos
come
one
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
get
max
you
muted
for
some
reason
again
yeah
you
can
hear
I
can't
hear
you.
Yeah
I
have
no
idea.
Man
I
have
no
idea
and
on
Zak,
do
you
want
to
stay
on
for
the
next.
D
B
A
A
E
A
So
I
guess
maybe
a
little
bit
about
the
International
or
about
the
jurisdictional
agility
and
then
the
approach
your
block
producers
have
taken
to
that
to
set
up
the
nodes.
I
know
you
have
one
in
space
and
then
there's
you're
planning
to
do
some
one
international
waters
and
I
think
that's
super
interesting
and
I'd
love
to
hear
about
some
of
the
use
cases
that
that
you
envision
that
there
could
be
with
this
type
of
regulation
or
certainty.
Yeah.
E
So
that's
one
simple
example
and
then
of
course
the
other
examples
are
international
waters
in
space
which
are
two
places
that
are,
you
know,
kind
of
regulation
free
and
therefore
we
can
run
a
whole
bunch
of
different
things
that
you
know.
Who
knows
what
people
will
do,
but
one
certain
example
is
cruise
ships
when
they
sail
out
a
port
turn
on
their
casinos
once
they're
in
international
waters
and
shut
them
down
when
they
come
into
again.
Why
do
they
do
that?
E
E
A
E
Are
they
yeah
yeah?
We've
got
two
satellites
that
we
can
use.
One
is
called
Theo,
which
is
a
tiny
little
one.
It's
when
I
showed
a
picture
of
one
on
one
of
my
statement
posts
a
while
back
it's
about
four
inches
square
and
about
that
long,
and
it
basically
is
in
orbit
now
and
in
use
by
someone
else,
but
we
can
piggyback
on
to
that
same
processor
and
take
control
of
it
later.
There's
another
one
called
a
preset
which
is
about
the
size
of
well.
E
It's
that
big
of
a
cube
of
CubeSat,
and
it's
got
a
little
more
processing
power
on
board.
Neither
one
of
those
two
we
have
access
to
you
right
now
is
probably
going
to
be
powerful
enough
to
run
a
full
up
node,
because
you
don't
have
the
amount
of
memory
necessary
to
hold
all
the
all
the
blockchain
that
is
going
to
be
produced,
but
they
do
have
the
ability
to
execute
what
we
would
call
enterprise
node
contents.
E
E
S--
tokens
has
been
happening
and
will
be
happening
until
the
7th
of
July
I
think
his
last
day
there
but
rainfall
the
RAM
tokens
continue
to
go
on
for
a
total
of
80
weeks,
so
that
will
go
on
for
like
a
year
and
a
half
and
we'll
be
able
to
put
out
some
other
tokens
that
will
be
being
distributed
from
space
down
to
anybody
who
who
still
keeps
their
stuff
staked
and
so
that'll,
be
something
new
we'll
be
announcing.
What
what
is
it
you
get
raining
down
on
you
from
heaven
like
manna.
That's.
A
Awesome
so
if
I'm,
a
smart
contract
developer
and
I
want
to
develop
a
contract
that
only
executes
in
a
specific
jurisdiction,
how
many
nodes
are
there
currently
on
barrows
and
whenever
I
select
Utah,
for
example,
if
there's
only
one
node
in
Utah
does
that
create
an
attack
vector
knowing
that
there's
only
this
one
node
that
could
possibly
run
the
transaction
rather,
rather
than
being
it
randomly
selected
from
the
21
actives,
for
example.
Well,.
E
There
are
21
active
nodes
on
the
system
right
now,
we'll
be
putting
those
nodes
spreading
them
out
further
and
further
over
the
next
month,
so
that
there
will
be
nodes
up
in
a
bunch
of
different
jurisdictions.
Up
there'll
be
a
node
sitting
up
in
the
bunker
in
Canada
there'll,
be
a
node
sitting
in
Ireland
and
probably
another
node
over
on
the
vancouver
coast
of
canada.
A
E
D
E
That
they've
developed
on
bitshares
and
so
a
areas
seeks
to
to
maintain
nodes
that
are
independent
of
any
type
of
external
control
vote.
When
you
get
over
onto
the
Bo
side,
we're
going
to
have
nodes,
be
actual
registered
companies.
Probably
so
that
doesn't
mean
that
everybody
is
going
to
be
a
company,
but
a
lot
of
the
companies
who
are
using
the
network
will
expect
we'll
be
providing
the
nodes
and
then,
of
course,
they'll
get
elected
like
anybody
else.
E
We
do
have
sort
of
a
bicameral
type
of
an
election
system
because
we
do
have
two
sevenths
of
the
tokens
held
by
the
PCL,
a
the
the
BOS
limited
Cooperative
Association,
which
is
a
nonprofit
organization
that
is,
is
issuing
these
tokens
out
to
everybody.
So
they'll
get
two
sevenths
of
the
vote,
but
everybody
else
will
get
five
sevenths
of
the
vote
on
it.
B
A
Yeah
so
I
have
questions
it's
alright
army.
Let's
talk
about
Rouen,
because
I
think
it's
super
interesting.
It's
one
of
the
most
fully
fleshed
out
social
media
platforms
based
on
the
white
paper.
How
much
of
the
roadmap
and
features
in
the
white
paper
actually
built
today
or
will
be
built
for
the
time
of
launch?
And
do
you
have
a
rough
idea
of
the
launch
date
for
ruin
because
I
know
what
I
think
it's
still
in
an
active
fundraising.
E
A
E
E
Yeah,
it's
kind
of
linked
together,
yeah
sovereign
sky
is
another
joint
project
I'm
doing
with
Tim.
It's
a
you
know
a
separate
company
and
it's
the
one
that
is
going
to
put
up
the
constellation
of
satellites
that
much
would
be
us
will
run
on.
So
that
will
raise
money
and
then
go
develop
satellites
that
are
custom
built
for
running
blockchain.
A
E
We
don't
have
that
particular
solution
picked.
Yet
we've
looked
at
a
number
of
different
ways
to
do
it
and
that's
that'll,
be
part
of
the
design
of
the
satellite
to
figure
out
how
best
to
make
all
that
work,
and
you
know
we
won't
really
contract
to
have
those
satellites
developed
until
after
we
start
raising
them
the
money
to
pay
the
contractors
to
do
it.
E
D
E
A
E
Exactly
right-
and
you
know
those
are
going
to
give
amateur
astronomers
a
whole
new
capability
right
now
you
know
amateur
astronomers,
don't
have
any
hope
of
getting
any
time
on
the
Hubble
Space
Telescope
right,
it's
just
too
precious,
but
things
will
be
targeted
to
said
half
of
all
the
telescope
time
available
to
amateur
astronomers.
The
other
half
will
be
sold
off
to
people
who
want
to
use
it
for
research
purposes
and
awesome
will.
A
B
I,
don't
think
anyone's
going
to
turn
you
away
so
very
cool
cool.
Thank
you.
So
much
stand
up.
Please
drop
a
link
where
people
could
find
you
I'm
sure.
Zach
has
a
lot
more
questions
for
you.
Probably
maybe
you
know
everything
else
is
a
great
show.
If
you
got
some
time.
It's
probably
a
good
show
to
have
a
chat
so
yeah.
E
E
B
A
F
A
A
would
run
out
of
electricity
so
fast.
That's
the
difference
is
you
could
run
like
you.
Look
at
us
authority
to
see
how
much
actual
electricity
a
node
runs,
because
they
did
this
like
carbon
trading
thing,
where
they
basically
negate
all
the
carbon
emissions
from
running
a
block,
Priester
node
on
the
main
net,
so
they
actually
have
the
exact
number
of
electricity
it
uses
and
using
today's
technology
of
battery
power
you
can
run
a
full
node,
a
folio
Snowdon
outer
space
for
several
years
off
of
a
battery.
A
B
A
It
fits
them
perfectly
he's
I,
believe
a
career
like
rocket
engineer
and
the
guy
is
that
he's
partnered
with
on
some
of
those
space
projects,
or
they
also
have
their
own
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
NASA
but
I
think
it's
some
other
space
companies
that
they
all
have
that
background.
So
that's
what
I
like
to
look
at
with
these
projects
is
like
is
the
team
qualified?
Do
they
have
the
proper
background
and
the
answer?
That's
yes.