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From YouTube: New Resource Models, Gaming on EOSIO, Sock Puppet BPs, and Recapping the LiquidApps DAPP Hackathon
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A
So
it's
real
life.
Some
welcome
back
to
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You
know
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longest-running
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else
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for
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know
that
you
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live
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us
and
the
last
thing
I
got
to
say
before
we
get
started,
is
that
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is
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cure.
I
say
should
never
be
interpreted
as
any
kind
of
legal
financial
tax,
professional
investment
or
any
other
kind
of
advice.
You
should
never
trust
people
what
to
do
with
your
money
online
or
yo.
B
Yo
get
rekts
you'll
get
absolutely
destroyed.
As
we've
seen,
the
markets
are
volatile.
You
never
want
to
listen
to
anyone,
especially
perma
bulls,
they're,
probably
the
dumbest
of
them
all.
So
just
don't
listen
to
us
or
anyone
on
the
internet
without
doing
your
own
research.
We
also
wanted
to
call
out
a
deal
with
ledger.
Today
we
have
a
discreet
link
in
the
description.
We
have
30%
off
Ledger's.
A
B
Also,
the
new
killers
and
the
new
Bluetooth
all
right,
so
I
guess:
let's
just
kick
this
off:
apologies
for
the
liquid
apps
DAP
hackathon,
not
Co
streaming
here
on
the
DAP
channel
and
on
Mac
step.
We
had
issues
going
into
the
livestream,
but
I
do
want
to
recap
the
results
here.
Let
me
pull
this
up
on
the
shared
screen,
just
some
facts
and
figures.
We
had
44
teams
that
competed
234
participants,
Wow
40
different
countries
and
then
shout
out
to
all
of
the
team.
B
The
map
I'll
pop
up
the
map
and
shout
out
to
all
of
the
teams
that
made
the
finals.
That's
block
start
multi-block,
wreckless
team,
o
necess
Tippett
me
o
s--,
DM,
fund,
x
and
bcs
germany,
so
shout
out
to
all
of
those
teams
the
winners
I
have
on
here.
So
the
winner
of
the
$15,000
and
500,000
DAP
token
prize
was
a
team
code,
one
esses
and
they
they
fulfilled
all
three
requirements.
They
only
had
to
do
one
of
the
three
and
that
was
defy
gear.
B
A
The
escrow
service
is
pretty
interesting,
so
I
guess
it's
for
like
if,
if
I
want
to
basically
bet
somebody
in
a
match
online
for
any
video
game,
I
can
go
into
discord
and
I
can
bet
and
put
the
money
in
a
liquid
escrow
service,
and
then
a
ref
can
decide,
and
you
were
telling
me
before
the
call
like
I
said.
If
somebody
disputes
it,
you
can
sort
of
escalate
it
to
the
actual
decentralized
escrow
service.
Is
that
right,
yeah.
B
So
they
basically
built
this
layer
to
escrow
service,
like
you
said,
and
they
integrated
the
gaming.
The
sports
league
aspect.
Basically,
a
referee
is
basically
the
arbitrator
of
the
match,
so
you
think
of
a
referee
like
the
arbitrator
and
they
take
ten
percent
cut
of
the
the
game
winnings
and
it's
all
done
through
discord
for
the
game
matching.
They
play
the
game
and
if
there's
no
disputes
everything
works
as
intended.
B
But
whenever
there's
a
dispute
they
actually
created
an
escrow
service
and
because
it's
on
that
network,
first
of
all,
just
because
they
use
the
game
use
case.
I
thought.
The
more
interesting
aspect
was
that
it's
not
just
limited
to
gaming
and
they
gave
some
examples
on
there
and
the
other
thing
was
the
chain:
agnostic,
SEO
services,
I.
A
B
Talked
about
that
before
the
call
just
some
examples
of
that
like
you
could
have
like.
Imagine
the
title
to
your
house
being
tokenized
and
you're
like
putting
it
up
in
an
escrow
service,
and
then
you
could
also
put
Bitcoin
from
the
Bitcoin
network
in
the
same
contractor,
aetherium
from
aetherium
oreos
yeah.
A
B
It's
it's
pretty
cool
to
think
of
some
of
these
ideas
that
I
didn't
even
think
of
a
lot
of
them
prior
to
the
hackathon,
especially
this
one
and
escrow
and
arbitration
is
something
we've
kind
of
talked
about
since
pre
main
net
on
es.
So
it's
gonna
be
super
interesting
team,
1ss
they're,
building
something
they
have
another
project.
B
I
don't
have
the
link,
but
they
posted
a
blog
couple
months
ago
and
we've
been
in
touch
with
them
like
from
liquid
from
liquid
apps
and
got
a
cool
new
hoodie
too,
but
they've
been
working
on
a
game
of
their
own.
So
this
kind
of
ties
and
I
think
they're
gonna
be
able
to
use
this
for
their
game,
but
the
I
just
got
a
shout
out
a
couple.
Early
project
blocks
start.
Everyone
knows
Ramon
from
investing
with
the
difference
and
the
whole
blocks.
B
Our
team
that
basically
helped
I
build
the
moon
lighting
system
on
on
that
network.
In
years
they
won
second
place.
They
built
like
basically
a
centralized
way
to
use
liquid
accounts
on
a
centralized
exchange
to
allow
people
holding
their
AOS
on
that
centralized
exchange
to
be
able
to
vote
and
use
their
lease
out
their
tokens
to
either
individual
developers
or
into
like
a
recs
Lakes
system.
Yeah
yeah.
A
Maybe
it
could
be
built
in
a
way,
even
with
the
first-place
winners
prize,
with
that
liquid
escrow
service,
where
somebody
sends
their
tokens
out
from
the
exchange
to
the
liquid
escrow
service
and
can
vote
there,
and
then
it
automatically
gets
sent
back
to
their
exchange
account,
because
then
you
could
integrate
it
without
the
permission
of
the
exchanges,
which
I
think
would
be
really
interesting.
That'd.
B
Be
really
so
you're
saying,
like
okay
you're
on
a
centralized
exchange,
you
send
your
tokens
out
to
a
designated
address
that
basically
sends
it
to
an
escrow
contract
and,
before
you
even
send
it
and
generate
that
address.
You
basically
agree
to
all
of
the
terms
like
I
want
to
loan
these
out
on
this,
like
recs,
like
liquidity
pool
for
30
days,
blah
blah
blah.
These
are
all
the
terms
of
my
rental
I,
send
it
to
the
escrow
contract
and
then
that
escrow
contract
basically
does
what
it
was
intent,
the
like.
B
A
B
B
A
That's
a
good
point,
it's
interesting
to
think
how
they
could
expand
on
that
I
thought
third
place
was
pretty
cool
as
well.
This
was
I
guess
a
procedurally
generated
MMO
with
a
bunch
of
different
galaxies
that
you
could
own
that
I
guess.
My
understanding
of
it
is
that
it
generates
the
content
in
the
game
based
on
the
blockchain.
Am
I
understanding
that
right,
yeah.
B
Like
it
was
like
above
my
head
on
how
he
generates
it,
I
know
he
used
the
Unreal
Engine,
which
was
super
sweet
okay,
like
to
generate
that
a
lot
of
the
graphics
is
also
cool,
because
Brock
Pierce
is
one
of
the
judges
so
kind
of
seeing
him
in
the
element
with
these
gaming
entries
and
have
hearing
his
questions
and
stuff
was
super
cool
and
they're
really
impressed.
This
was
the
last
one
that
went
on.
B
A
B
Were
gonna
like
look
like,
we
didn't
really
have
my
guess,
but
then
he
popped
on
during
this.
The
third
place
team
beast
yes,
Germany
during
their
presentation,
Rand
pops
on
at
the
very
end
it
was
cool
and
he
okay.
He
liked
the
game.
Yeah
I,
don't
have
graphics
ready
for
these
guys,
but
I
guess
wants
to
check
these
out.
B
I
will
be
having
some
of
the
teams
on
everything
years
or
on
the
liquid
apps
YouTube,
but
the
first
ones
will
definitely
be
here
on
everything
years
that
the
team
owned
s
is
the
team
that
one
I'm
just
trying
to
schedule
with
him
talk
to
him
about
his
project,
he's
up
because
I'm
pretty
sure
they
already
have
a
gaming
project
and
then
we'll
talk
about
their
their
liquid
bla.
Why
am
I?
Why
am
I
playing
here?
I'm
thinking
liquid
arbitration
liquid
liquid.
A
As
Aggron
escrow
yeah
and
one
one
now,
I
guess
to
grab
favorites
I
wanted
to
call
out.
Also
we
have
our
list
here
wrecked
land
by
no
Leo
who's
kind
of
doing
the
big
chess
challenge
on
YouTube
and
ace
teammate
Evan,
but
that's
club
and
waiting
for
somebody
to
do
like
a
blockchain
based
monopoly
style
game
for
a
while.
So
I
thought
that
was
neat
and
then
we
have
liquid
crypto,
which
is
anonymous.
Voting
by
multiply
that
we
were
talking
before
the
call.
A
B
The
cool
thing
about
all
so
the
the
five
we
mentioned
so
the
top
three
plus
the
two
tied
for
crowd.
Favorites
I,
don't
know
the
Germany
guys
the
third-place
team
that
well,
but
it
seems
to
me
like
they
run
like
max
dap.
He
did
an
interview
before
the
hackathon.
It
seems
like
out
of
all
five
of
those
projects
from
the
hackathon
that
all
five
Limor
going
to
continue
to
be
developed
into
actual
production
ready
project
so
that
that
was
one
of
the
kind
of
disappointments
with
the
ears
hackathons
a
little
bit
was.
B
B
Them
aren't
always
available
to
continue
building
out
whatever
the
hackathon
service
was,
but
because
of
the
nature
of
this
hackathon
and
the
the
teams
that
built
the
projects
like
teams
like
bloc
start
who
already
runs
a
DSP
and
is
incentivized
to
build
out
his
voting
service
and
then
especially
liquid
crypto,
which
is
multi
block,
also
a
DSP
and
it's
an
actual
service
that
could
be
run
by
a
DSP.
It's
just
like
they
have
every
incentive
in
the
world
to
continue.
Building
this
and
onasis
with
the
liquid
escrow.
B
I
mean
just
talking
here
for
the
past
five
minutes,
there's
so
many
possibilities,
but
it
was
super
awesome.
Seeing
the
gaming
theme,
it
was
awesome
getting
to
engage
with
all
the
judges
we
had
Greg
Lee
VP
of
engineering
from
block
one
and
I
did
get
to
ask
him.
Whenever
is
no
Leo's
turn
with
wreckless
I
said
Greg.
B
B
I
got
some
confirmation
from
Greg
and
just
being
with
crystal
Rose
Brock
Pierce
ran
is
just
an
awesome,
show
also
awesome
gaming
applicants,
gaming
participants
and
gaming.
That's
kind
of
like
the
theme
of
today's
show
we'll
eventually
get
into
the
dirty
stuff
at
the
end
that
everyone
wants
us
to
talk
about,
but
let's,
let's
get
into
the
gaming
stuff
here.
Why
don't?
Why?
Don't
you
care
the
next
topic
with
the
SVC?
Yes,.
A
We
have
another
new
USBC
investment.
Fortunately,
this
time
it's
not
in
an
aetherium
project,
it's
in
one
that
is
built
on
a
OS
from
day
one
they
mention
the
company
biscuit,
which
is
actually
the
game
development
studio
behind
es
Knight.
So
if
you
don't
know
what
he
used
iTunes,
it's
kind
of
this
like
level
platformer,
where
you
go
to
your
level
and
your
your
players
fight
automatically
and
you
sort
of
level
them
up
and
choose
what
spells
and
abilities
they
get
and
choose
their
gear
and
craft
new
gear.
A
And
it
has
this
really
cool
in-game
economy.
That's
all
blockchain,
based
where
every
single
item
is
a
token
that
actually
has
a
lot
of
liquidity
on
their
internal
exchange.
So
it
was
cool
to
see
them
supported,
and
there
was
an
interesting
quote
here
that
we
wanted
to
shout
out.
That
said,
our
direct
investment
in
biscuit
extends
our
strategic
focus
of
working
with
some
of
the
smartest
minds
into
gaming.
A
Blockchain
sector
send
Mike
Alexander
CEO
of
SBI
C
and
then
J
Lee
founder
of
biscuit
actually
came
out
in
that
same
article
and
said
block
one
has
closely
supported
us
in
the
successful
development
and
operation
of
knights
from
the
very
start.
So
it's
really
interesting
I
guess
there
was
some
kind
of
relationship
between
block
1
and
biscuit
building
us
Knights
from
the
beginning,
and
now
they
have
an
official
investment
so
Congrats
to
the
team.
Yeah.
B
A
A
B
B
A
B
A
Spk
crypto
and
the
galaxy
digital
were
both
participants
in
this
next
round
of
medical
games.
I
think
galaxy
was
in
on
the
first
one,
but
I
don't
think
SDK
was
so
it's
their
first
I
guess.
Initial
investment
in
this
series
be
investment
round
into
mythical
games
and,
of
course,
medical
games
are
the
ones
that
have
created
the
Blanco
scheme.
That
I
had
the
opportunity
to
play
at
South
by
Southwest
gaming.
This
year,
I
think
the
biggest
takeaway
I
had
from
that
event
was
wow.
This
is
actually
a
triple
a
quality
game.
A
You
know
we
can't
forget
that
the
executives,
the
people
that
are
building
this
game
now
at
mythical
games
and
probably
many
other
games
in
the
future,
were
former
executives
at
Activision,
Blizzard
and
all
these
other
big
studios.
So
it's
incredible
to
see
that
they're
getting
more
financial
support
now,
which
would
hopefully
allow
them
to
release
blanka's
in
the
near
future.
Iii.
B
Like
the
one
one
quote,
I
have
highlighted
here
up
on
the
screen,
so
it
first
of
all.
It
says
that
they
raised
sixteen
million
dollars
last
year
and
then
you
add
on
this
new
round
the
funding
there,
a
total
of
35
million
dollars
in
funding
who
and
if
yeah.
So
that's
enough
to
get
a
lot
of
work
done
and
we
know
Blanc
owes
was
at
least
ready
for
what
month
was
the
South
by
Southwest?
You
got
to
play
it.
B
Last
year
we
have
been
incredibly
impressed
by
the
team's
execution
on
the
build
out
of
Blancos
block
party
and
the
mythical
platform,
the
mythical
platform
which
I
don't
even
know.
If
that
is,
we
are
very
excited
with
the
support
from
our
new
and
existing
investors
team
and
board
members,
and
then
he
goes
into
talking
about
the
gameplay
of
Blanco.
B
So
basically,
what
he's
saying
here
is
that,
like
they're
impressed
with
how
things
are
going
like
they've,
already
thrown
18
a
mixture
of
16
million
dollars
of
capital
into
this
company
and
they're
so
happy
with
how
the
results
are
going
that
they're
throwing
more
money
into
the
project
because
they're
so
impressed
with
the
team
and
also
the
new
hires.
So
I
didn't
finish.
Reading
the
quote,
but
it
mentioned
the
new
hires
yeah.
B
B
Zynga
was
like
the
go-to
game
in
company
for
that,
and
also
they
hired
a
new
VP
of
Marketing,
who
also
led
to
go
to
market
strategy
from
Telltale,
Games
and
Zynga.
So
Wow
awesome
new
hires
for
mythical
games.
Congratulations
on
the
new
funding
I
just
want
to
know
when
blank
goes
man,
we
was
rigidly
supposed
to
be
at
the
end
of
this
year.
Yes,.
A
It's
still
possible,
we
have,
you,
know
a
month
left,
maybe
they'll
give
us
a
surprise.
Now
they
got
this
this
new
money.
They
got
a
lot
of
new
team
members,
maybe
it'll
be
this
year,
but
if
not
I
would
definitely
expect
it
next
year.
I
know
that
they
posted
an
update
in
their
telegram
a
couple
months
ago,
saying
basically
that
they
were
still
polishing
the
game
and
needed
time
so
I
I.
B
B
B
A
Yeah,
we'll
see
it'll
be
interesting.
That
gives
them
another
I
guess
another
six
months
or
so
at
least,
but
speaking
of
big
gaming
news.
It
looked
like
you
miss
off,
which
is
a
massive
game:
company,
that's
game,
company
behind
Assassin's,
Creed,
Just,
Dance,
Far,
Cry
and
a
bunch
of
other
games.
They
were
actually
added
as
the
first
corporate
blog
producer
on
the
new
ultra
blockchain.
So
what
did
you
think
of
this
act?
Iii.
B
There,
community
manager
names
drawing
a
blank
Emmanuel
and
they
said
like
they
I
knew
about
them
a
little
bit,
I'm,
still
not
as
familiar
with
them
as
I
would
like
to
be,
and
the
reason
is
that
they
still
haven't
launched
their
main
that
they're
still
in
ERC
20
token
that
as
far
as
I
know
it's
unlike
BitFenix
and
some
other
places,
not
very
liquid,
but
I,
just
don't
like
ERC
20
tokens.
Personally,
that's
my
only
rift
it's
like
finally
jab
at
them,
but
as
far
as
like
and
I
don't
mean
anything
by
it.
B
B
But
the
difference
is
that
the
ultra
team
is
super
legit,
so
they
have
like
the
former
CTO
of
like
Dell
and
Time
Warner
on
their
team.
They
just
have
this
deep,
deep
gaming
experience
and
deep
gaming
connections.
So
it
really
wasn't
a
surprise
when
every
be
soft
was
announced
as
one
of
their
block
producers
they're.
The
first
of
the
corporate
block
producers
that
they'll
be
running
be
basically
producing
blocks
once
the
main
that
launches
which,
like
I,
said
they
don't
have
a
date
for
the
main
that
launch
it.
B
I'm
really
waiting
for
that
date,
I
think.
Once
we
get
that
date,
I'll
be
pretty
excited,
and
maybe
we
could
have
them
on
to
talk
to
you
guys
and
share
a
little
bit
more,
but
they
have
three
block
producers
so
far:
BitFenix
Neos,
New,
York,
India's
Rio,
those
are
what
they
call
technical
block
producers
and
then
they
wanna
I,
don't
know
if
they're
playing
it
through
21
VPS
or
what
their
deal
is.
B
It's
gonna
going
to
be
like
a
federated
blockchain
similar
to
links
chain
they'll,
be
hand
selected,
but
they
want
to
have
an
equal
amount
of
corporate
bps
which
are
like
the
Ubisoft
or
like
other
gaming
companies
and
then
a
mixture
of
like
traditional
block
producers,
who
really
know
yo
si
oh
well
and
could
help
with
all
of
that.
So.
B
To
see
who
the
next
ones
are,
but
Ubisoft
is
a
major
game.
Company
they're,
the
game
company
behind
Assassin's,
Creed,
just
dance,
far
cry
and
getting
their
feet
wet
and
the
blockchain
is
super
exciting
in
itself.
Getting
their
feet
wet
into
blockchain
and
having
it
be.
Eoseo
is
even
more
exciting,
so
I
look
forward
to
following
this
project
as
it
continues
to
grow,
but
I
don't
really
have
a
conclusion
of
that.
I
I'm
super
I'm
bullish
on
the
ultra
project.
B
B
Here
we
go
we're
diving
down
yeah
yeah!
That's
why
I
was
I
was
hesitating
because
we're
about
to
go
from
I
want
to
talk
positively
about
Ubisoft
positively
about
ultra
positively
buddy
SVC
and
all
that
stuff
you
already
talked
about,
because
now
we
get
into
the
EOS
hood
and
yeah.
This
should
be
interesting.
It's
educated,
Fudd,
so
we're
gonna
kick
this
off
with
karma
migrating
to
wax.
You
want
to
kick
this
one
off
Rob
yeah.
A
So
karma
came
out
there.
The
second
dab
now
that
I'm,
aware
of,
in
addition
to
earn
bet
which
was
formerly
Iost,
bet
that
a
said
they'll
be
migrating
off
of
EOS
maintenance
in
some
way.
Obviously
earned
bet,
gave
them
a
30-day
notice,
but
I
don't
anticipate
the
change
happening
in
the
next
30
days.
Then
karma
just
straight-up
came
out
and
said
no
30-day
notice,
they're
just
migrating
to
whack,
so
they're
moving
from
the
EOS
main
that
to
the
actual
wax
main
net
and
Dallas
had
a
lot
of
you
know,
I
think
interesting
or
thought-provoking
reasons.
A
Why?
If
you
want
to
pull
up
some
of
his
tweets
here,
but
he
had
one
tweet
that
said
being
mad.
An
EOS
project
for
moving
to
another
US
io
base
chain
is
like
being
mad
at
your
friends
for
moving
out
of
San
Francisco
to
another
state,
because
it
makes
more
sense
for
them
economically,
pointing
of
course,
to
the
high
cost
of
CPU
right
now
on
the
US
main,
and
then
they
followed
up
and
said
you're,
both
still
American
hashtag
Neos.
A
But
he
went
on
to
say
the
goal
is
to
have
millions
of
people
using
an
app
they
enjoy
interacting
with
their
secure
us
IO
based
account,
so
they
have
control
over
their
own
value.
Success
on
this
goal
is
a
tide
that
raises
all
boats.
If
you
don't
get
this,
you
should
so
I
thought
it
was
pretty
thought-provoking.
What
did
you
think
of
the
move
over
to
wax
I.
B
Think
it's
good
I
know
just
just
the
way
that
Carm
is
designed
from
day
one.
It
does
have
very
computation
heavy
transactions
I
think
just
to
do
like
a
simple
like
it
uses
a
lot
of
resources
so,
rather
than
completely
go
back
and
re
are
katuk
the
entire
application,
it
kind
of
does
make
sense
to
look
elsewhere.
I
actually
forgot
to
put
in
the
notes,
but
you
mentioned
it
when
you're
recapping.
B
This
topic
about
the
Earned
bet,
giving
a
30-day
notice
to
leave
the
main
net,
and
it's
a
tough
position
to
be
in
right
now,
because
I'm
very
one
of
the
most
beautiful
things
about
a
deep-ass
chain
and
the
eos
main.
That
is
the
ability
to
adapt
and
change
and
reiterate
over
time.
But
the
problem
is
for
these
applications
that
are
already
like
in
customer
acquisition
mode
or
in
production
mode.
Is
they
don't
really
have
the
time
to
wait
necessarily
for
things
to
get
fixed?
B
So
I
can't
blame
them.
I
I'm
on
I
stuck
up
for
Dallas
in
the
Twitter
thing,
people
shouldn't
be
hating
on
a
company
for
trying
to
stay,
solvent
and
stay
relevant
and
stay
in
operation
like
if
the
option
is
basically
die
or
go
to
another
chain
to
see
if
it
works
out
better
than
good.
For
you
guys,
I
want
every
es,
IO
project
to
succeed,
I'm,
not
a
maximalist
of
any
chain.
I
prioritize,
the
main
net,
but
but
I
want
them
all
to
succeed
and
I
think
wax
is
a
good
spot
for
them.
B
I
mean
they
are
more
gaming,
focused
so
I'm,
not
on
a
percent
sure
on
that
I
know.
Talos
was
in
the
mix
for
another
chain
they
could
went
to.
I
personally
would
have
probably
guessed
that
they
moved
to
Talos.
If
you'd
have
asked
me
a
week
ago
and
said
that
they
were
going
to
change,
but
I,
don't
think
that
the
main
that
like
should
be
left
completely
I,
know
with
what
karma
is
attempting
to
do.
B
They're
going
to
take
a
snapshot
of
their
tokens,
they're
going
to
use
the
same
public
key
from
the
EOS
main
net
on
the
wax
main
net
and
basically,
as
your
private
key
from
the
main
that
should
be
able
to
unlock
your
your
tokens
on
unwaxed.
So
it's
it's
pretty
frictionless
I
guess
it
sounds
like
yeah,
but
go
ahead.
B
B
Kind
of
like
earn
some
sort
of
income
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
hard
harder
yet
to
on
and
off
board
into
and
out
of
karma
tokens
and
then
same
with
earn,
but
if
they
move
their
token
off
of
the
main
that
it's
going
to
still
run
that
same
liquidity
issue
of
whether
they're
running
their
own
chain
and
running
on
a
sister
chain.
They're
still
gonna
have
to
deal
with
not
having
that
Yeo's
pair.
B
A
A
Hopefully
the
liquidity
is
solved
and
it
does
seem
like
something
that,
where
new
takes
could
just
add
an
additional
market
for
wax
but
I
think
overall,
really
what
this
highlights
is
is
when
I
put
out
on
a
lot
of
tweet
threads
recently
over
the
past
few
weeks
is
the
cost
of
CPU
on
yes,
if
it
costs
a
business,
10
20,
30,
40,
50,
sometimes
eighty
dollars
staked
in
a
OS
to
send
one
transaction
for
a
user
in
a
day.
That's
just
not
a
sustainable
cost.
A
No,
if
I
go
out
and
I
on
board
a
thousand
people,
I
don't
have
eighty
thousand
dollars
as
a
small
business
owner
to
stake
to
power.
One
transaction
for
each
of
those
people
in
day
so
I
think
good
karma
is
sort
of
the
first
of,
and
hopefully
the
last
but
I
think
if
these
issues
aren't
resolved
soon
enough
I
think
this
will
be
a
pattern
with
taps
moving
to
other
chains
or
at
least
supporting
additional
other
chains.
In
addition,
yes,
yeah.
B
I,
the
other
thing
that
are
considered
is
that
not
all
transactions
are
equal,
so
any
DAP,
depending
on
the
transaction
types,
let's
say
like
a
post
action
on
karma,
might
be
equivalent.
I
I'm
just
pulling
this
number
out
my
ass
I'm,
sorry
karma.
If
it's
way
bigger
but
like
that
might
be
equivalent
like
50
different,
like
simple
transfer
actions,
for
example,
so
the
cost
per
transaction
for
a
token
transfer
would
be
much
less
than
let's
say
a
post
action
or
something
something
complicated.
B
Let's
just
say
that
I
I
I'm
in
favor
of
tokens
living
on
the
main
net
and
everything
else
being
offloaded
onto
whatever
sister
chain
or
dedicated
private
chain,
whatever
it
wants
to
be,
but
interfacing
using
things
like
liquid,
X
or
liquid
link
to
basically
be
that
bridge
between
block
chains
in
between
resource
models,
to
allow
you
to
get
the
liquidity
of
the
main
that
Wow,
while
having
the
resource
costs
of
sister
chain
solutions
and
I
think
we'll
start
seeing
more
of
those.
As
we
move
forward
here.
A
What's
interesting
is
I
think
a
lot
of
these
CPU
issues
really
started
from
Rex.
You
know,
Rex
was
the
sort
of
the
critical
failure
point
in
my
opinion
of
this
whole
system,
where
we
saw
all
of
Rex
get
leased
but
then
capped
out
at
this
sort
of
artificial
80%
of
total
Rex
can
be
leased
out.
Excuse
me
threshold
and
that
really
didn't
raise
the
price
high
enough,
ironically,
to
sort
of
prevent
all
of
the
capacity
from
being
leased
out.
But
what's
interesting
is
that
the
Rex
leases
will
actually
expire
all
in
a
big
batch
tomorrow.
A
So
it's
going
to
be
fascinating
to
see
what
happens.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
have
their
ego
set
in
the
withdraw
queue
so
that
that
EOS
will
get
automatically
returned
to
the
people
who
requested
the
withdrawal
tomorrow
and
then
a
lot
of
these
leases
are
likely
set
to
auto-renew.
So
a
lot
of
the
leases
will
likely
automatically
renew
tomorrow
as
well,
but
probably
pulling
from
a
smaller
pool
of
yeah.
So
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
happens
to
the
price.
B
B
They
put
out
a
blog
update
like
days
before
these
LexA
Rex
expiration,
where
they
basically
came
up
with
some
new
token
that
could
you
could
only
get
by
burning
the
I
das
token,
and
so
basically,
it's
like
they
give
just
enough
information
that
it's
like,
like
they
clearly
understand
game
theory.
100%
like
these
are
idiots.
These
are
very
smart
people
running
this
operation.
They've
got
very
deep
connections
to
exchanges,
so
I
I
don't
know
what
to
expect
man.
I
I
think
it's
battle
testing
the
main
that
it's
stressing
it
to
its
limits.
B
It's
really
got
a
lot
of
people
in
like
capitulation
mode
here,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
make
things
stronger,
I
think
I'd.
Rather
these
issues
happen
now
whenever
we
have
to
have
these
discussions
about
Karma
or
maybe
earn
bet
moving
rather
than
like
I,
don't
know
voice
or
projects
like
that.
I
think
it's
better
to
happen
now,
but
it
sucks
in
general.
It's
never
good
at
the
Deaf
hackathon
like
if
you
guys
watched
the
video
we
put
out
last
weekend.
B
It
was
basically
a
small
version
of
insane
brainstorming
session,
with
Thomas
cow
and
Eyal
Hertzog
from
Bangor,
and
we
came
up
with
an
alternative
model
to
Rex
and
then
knowing
that
block
1
was
also
working
on
something
and
that
they're
probably
going
to
publish
it
soon.
But
one
thing
with
the
main
that
is
I
never
like.
B
Whenever
all
of
the
ideas
only
come
from,
like
one
person
or
one
team,
it
kind
of
frustrated
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
get
into
Dan's
new
resource
model
in
a
minute,
but
it
just
bothers
me
a
little
bit
whenever,
like
like
sigh
II,
put
out
that
update
what
like
two
weeks
ago,
that
would
have
basically
turned
the
recs
back
on
and
no
one
would
approve
it
because
it
didn't
come
from
block
one.
So
now,
knowing
that
block,
one
was
going
to
put
something
I
thought
I
wasn't
going
to
stop
the
conversation
because
it
kind
of
went.
B
It
wasn't
meant
to
be
like
a
whiteboarding
brainstorming
session
on
a
better
Rex
I.
Don't
want
to
interrupt
and
be
like
hey
guys,
guys,
let's,
let's,
let's
wait
to
solve
this
problem
till
we
hear
what
Dan
Larimer
has
to
say.
We
knew
he
was
going
to
say
something.
We
came
up
with
our
own
model
anyway,
just
because
we
want
to
have
differing
opinions
in
the
same
sense
that,
when
es
New
York
cut
out
their
proposal
block
one
put
out
their
proposal
almost
immediately.
It's
always
good
to
have
of
multiple
viewpoints
and
I.
Think.
A
The
the
biggest
question
overall
on
when
it
comes
to
improve
and
I
agree.
This
is
definitely
a
great
stress
test
for
us
and
as
as
a
whole
as
a
bigger
thing
at
for
us.
I
owe
and
I
think
it's
pretty
much
certain
that
a
lot
of
these
fixes
will
get
implemented
u.s.
IO.
But
it's
really
a
matter
of
like
you,
said,
Syed's
proposal
didn't
get
approved.
Will
the
top
twenty
one
block
producers
actually
approve
any
kind
of
changes
or
updates
to
the
u.s.
main
end
and
I?
B
A
system
contract
level
changes
like
so
that's
what
I
mean
by
that,
like
it's
hard
to
come
up
with
solutions
whenever
I
know,
if
a
radical
solution
came
out
independently,
that
required
radical
system
contract
level
changes
I,
don't
think
that
it
would
get
implemented.
But
if
it
comes
from
block
one
and
its
system
level
contract
changes,
it
probably
will
get
implemented
and
I'm.
Okay
with
that,
as
long
as
change
happens
and
we're
in
a
better
spot
than
before.
B
That's
fine
I'm,
just
saying
that
for
for
a
healthy
ecosystem,
you
don't
want
to
have
just
one
entity
coming
up
with
all
of
the
solutions
or
answers,
because
we
saw
with
the
competing
es
New,
York
and
Dan
Lambert
proposals
that
there
were
a
lot
of
things
I
liked
from
us
New
York's
proposal
and
a
few
things
I
liked
from
Dan's
proposal
and
ideally
I
would
like
a
mesh
of
both
of
them
yeah
and
but
neither
one
in
its
entirety,
and
it
goes
the
same
for
these
resources
models.
We're
about
to
get
into
yeah.
A
And
I
think
that
that
also
kind
of
hurt
both
proposals
in
a
lot
of
ways,
I
think
because
then
you
know
the
already
fractured
us
community
couldn't
really
get
behind
one
single
proposal
and
there
was
no
real
leadership
in
the
top
21
to
come
out
and
say:
hey
here's,
the
new
proposal
that
we
put
together
as
a
mesh
of
both
let's
go
ahead
and
approve
it
so
I
think
a
lot
of
it.
Just
comes
back
to
governance
in
the
top
21,
but
this
proposal
from
Dan
on
CPU
is
super
interesting.
A
Yes-
and
this
is
an
interesting
change-
it's
really
in
a
lot
of
ways,
sort
of
an
admission
that
Rex
is
broken
and
is
a
replacement
of
Rex
and
there's
evidence
in
this
post
about
that
where
they
say
if
this
is
implemented
on
the
US
main,
that
Rex
will
be
sort
of
phased
out
and
deprecated
over
the
next
year.
So
this,
ultimately
is
a
replacement
for
Rex.
It
is
a
replacement
for
how
resource
you
know,
lending
or
borrowing
works
on.
Yes,
and
essentially
it
works
like
this.
A
A
hundred
percent
of
all
of
the
EOS
network
CPU
is
available
for
rental
at
all
times
in
the
CPU
market,
regardless
of
how
many
tokens
are
actually
safe
direct.
So
one
hundred
percent
of
the
network
capacity
can
be
rented
at
all
times
in
this
new
system,
but
the
only
people
have
actually
get
lease
payments
for
that.
Yose
are
the
people
that
have
it
in
Rex.
A
So
there's
this
massive
incentive
to
put
your
ears
in
Rex
to
get
the
lease
payments,
because
otherwise
you're
basically
not
collecting
the
lease
payments
that
are
associated
with
the
CPU
for
your
yes,
but
what's
really
interesting
about
this,
is
that
you
can
no
longer
just
stay
Chios
and
send
transactions
that
model
sort
of
goes
away
completely.
I
can't
just
you
know,
stake
20,
EOS
and
a
transaction
and
be
on
my
way.
Instead,
everybody
has
to
use
this
new
resource
model
so
effectively,
and
we
were
talking
about
this
a
little
bit
before
the
show
effectively.
A
You
can
still
have
quote
unquote:
free
transactions
or
transactions
in
the
same
way
they
are
today.
It
just
happens
a
little
bit
differently.
So
if
I,
for
example,
stake
100
es
to
the
Rex
and
I
earn
one
yes
a
month.
I
can
then
use
that
one
of
us
a
month
to
pay
effectively
to
lease
someone
else's
EEOC
and
use
that
for
a
transaction.
A
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
roundabout
way,
but
basically
forces
everyone
into
using
this
new
rental
market,
and
that's
the
only
way
you
can
send
a
transaction
is,
if
you
go
through
that
rental
market.
What's
dangerous
about
this
I
think
is
that
just
like
we
saw
Rex
today
and
for
the
last
29
days
has
been
completely
locked
out
and
no
new
rentals
can
happen.
A
B
Gonna
pull
up,
I
was
looking
for
this.
We
from
Cheney
more
at
CPU
emergency.
He
said
about
this
resource
model
that
will
have
several
impacts.
The
biggest
one
I
see
is
the
2/3
of
the
network
currently
reserved
by
accounts
with
staked
CPU
that
are
no
longer
using.
It
can't
hold
it
hostage.
This
should
allow
the
network
to
approach
capacity
and
what
that
means
is
the
tokens
that
are
basically
allocating
CPU
resources.
B
1
they've
100
million
tokens
staked.
That
means
that
they're
using
10
per
they're
allocating
themselves
ten
percent
of
the
network
resources
every
single
day,
but
they're
not
using
them.
That's
that's
ten!
That's
ten
percent
of
the
network,
less
capacity
that
everyone
else
has
to
use
until
like
voice
and
everything
else
launches
they
might
actually
use
that
capacity
with
this
new
model,
instead
of
just
like
a
hundred
percent
of
all
capacity
of
the
network
is
available
in
this
resource
model.
B
But
he's
there's
still
a
thing
called
the
Rex
pool,
which
is
where
all
the
fees
get
poured
into,
which
is
where
the
name
auctions
and
the
RAM
market
fees
and
then
the
the
Rex
2.0
or
whatever
we
want
to
call
it.
He
calls
the
CPU
markets.
So
if
you
read
the
article
or
if
you
read
the
article,
you
have
to
kind
of
he
uses
Rex
and
distinguishable
and
like
you
can't
really,
you
have
its
Rex
markets
and
I.
Think
CPU
markets
is
how
he
distinguishes
the
two
they're,
the
difference,
so
everyone's
kind
of
like
how's.
A
I
mean,
in
my
opinion,
I
think
this
sort
of
it
undermines
the
value
the
utility
value
of
yes
right,
yes,
will
go
from
being
ownership
of
the
network
as
it's
been
pitched
from
day
one
as
hey.
If
you
owned
one
percent
of
the
US
tokens,
you
owned
one
percent
of
the
capacity
of
the
network,
and
nobody
can
take
that
from
you.
A
But
in
this
new
model,
assuming
it
is
approved
by
the
top
21
VP's
after
it's
codified
by
block
one
that
write
effectively
goes
away
and
now,
in
order
to
sort
of
regain
your
ownership,
you
basically
have
to
stake
into
recs
and
then
just
earn
leasing
fees
from
it.
But
you
don't
actually
own
it
anymore.
There's
no
way.
It
seems
for
me
to
delegate
CPU
to
another
account.
Maybe
there
still
is
but
I
think
I
would
basically
just
be
paying
the
leasing
fees
for
somebody
else.
A
But
I
know
there
were
a
lot
of
people
myself
included,
who
were
involved
in
OTC
CPU
deals
where
it
was
another
method
outside
of
recs
to
monetize
the
EOS
that
you
had.
So
you
could
say,
hey.
You
know
you're
a
DAP
and
you
need
a
bunch
of
CPU.
Let
me
guarantee
that
I'm
gonna
dedicate
this,
this
ciose
to
you
for
the
next.
You
know
90
days
if
you
need
the
longer
contract
outside
of
X,
and
that
could
be
done.
A
A
We
have
all
these
different
ways
that
you
can
get
CPU
on
EOS,
whether
you're,
using
something
like
Wyoming
cloud,
and
you
know
you're
buying
it
with
PayPal,
and
then
you
have
resources
or
somebody
sticking
it
to
you
or
you
have
an
OTC
deal
or
you're
using
shinty
or
you're
using
recs,
but
to
force
everybody
to
go
through
one
system
with
a
very
strict
set
of
rules.
I
think
could
be
flawed
and
Phoenix
brings
up
a
good
point
as
well.
A
That
says,
how
can
a
business
predict
costs
for
supporting
their
transactions
with
Dan's
model
month
to
month
and
I
really
don't
think
they
can
and
that's
something
that
I
think
they
they
claim?
The
proposal
could
do,
but
it's
still
not
going
to
be
a
stable
price,
because
the
prices
is
dependent
on
supply
and
how
many
people
are
demanding
CPU.
So
I,
don't
think
that
this
is
the
answer
to
all
of
the
cpu
woes.
A
B
B
This
is
interesting
here
this
line.
It
is
possible
that
future
versions
of
yeoseo
governance
may
choose
to
pay
block
producers,
a
percentage
of
the
rental
income
which
would
align
their
interests
and
maximizing
the
utility
value
of
the
network.
I
thought
that
was
super
interesting
there,
because
could
you
imagine
if
the
inflation
percentage
paid
the
bps
went
down
and
they
relied
heavily
on
actual
network
utility
so
that
their
incentives
were
aligned
with
growing
the
network
and
their
pay
wouldn't
be
guaranteed
to
be
more
of
a
free
market?
A
We
have
all
these
other
solutions.
Jin-Tae
2.0
is
about
to
launch
and
come
online
with
all
these
leasing
markets,
but
if
you
make
a
system
level
change
like
this
after
promising
people
that
this
is
the
way
the
system
works
for
more
than
a
year
now,
you're
gonna
put
some
people
out
of
business.
You're
gonna
break
a
lot
of
things
and
I
just
don't
know
that
this
is
the
best
way
to
go
about
it.
Well,.
B
So
usually,
whenever
you
have
competing
ideas
for
kit,
so
that's
kind
of
what's
going
on,
we
have
Dan
proposes
that
on
day
one,
you
split
the
Rex,
the
the
Rex
today
50%
of
all
CPU
allocation
and
then
like
the
new
model
50%
of
allocation,
and
he
proposes
that
over
a
year
that
you
could
phase
out
the
Rex.
He
didn't
really
give
a
great
idea
on
that
or
maybe
I'm
just
reading
it
wrong.
Because
all
of
these
algorithms
and
like
equations
he's
given
me,
they
go
over
my
head.
So
I
apologize
if
he
said
this
stuff.
B
But
what,
if
like
the
capacity?
So
if
on
day,
one
its
50%
traditional
recs
50%
in
the
other
new
version
Rex?
What?
If,
like
that
50%
teeters
to
each
direction
based
on
usage,
so
whatever
markets
being
used
more,
whether
it's
the
traditional
Rex
or
the
new
Rex
model,
like
whatever
Rex,
is
more
widely
used,
is
the
one
that
a
win.
It's
like
the
fork
of
the
resource
model,
not
a
win,
and
they
could
both
go.
It's.
B
However,
the
biggest
change
would
be
the
gradual
loss
of
the
ability
to
own
CPU
forever
via
staking
a
OS
free
share
of
CPU.
But
let's,
let's
get
back
to
that
forever
model,
because
what
what's
the
biggest
app
over
the
next
couple
months
that
we
expect
to
come
on
the
u.s.
main
that
probably
voice
voice
right
and
block
one
owns
10%
of
all
of
the
eos
tokens,
100
million
tokens
give
or
take
so
with
the
current
model.
They
stake
to
themselves.
B
They're,
100
million
euros
will
make
it
so
that
they'd
never
run
out
of
CPU
for
the
longest
time,
especially
since
they're,
using
like
multiple
chains
on
the
back
end
to
offload
computation
and
all
kinds
of
fun
stuffs
that
are
doing
bare
minimum
on
the
main
net.
With
the
current
model
block
one
would
just
sit
cushy
comfortable
with
their
10%
stake,
nothing
would
ever
change,
they
would
never
rent
from
Rex,
they
would
never
least
to
Rex.
They
would
probably
just
stake
and
huddle
with
the
new
model.
B
Let's
say
let's
say:
voice
comes
out
in
the
next
year
and
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
use
all
of
their
network.
Resources
like
it
might
use
one
percent
of
all
of
the
EOS
resources.
It's
not
going
to
use
all
ten
percent
that
block
one
owns.
So
with
this
new
model,
if
you
use
less
resources
than
you
spend,
transacting
you're,
essentially
accumulating
es,
is
what's
happening
there
block
one
with
this.
B
New
resource
model
is
able
to
do
nothing
if
staking
got
deprecated
and
it
just
automatically
like
rolled
over
into
this
new
system
so
that
they
could
stay
like
out
of
it
and
say
we
didn't
change
this.
The
system
changed
then
block
one
until
they
start
using
ten
percent
or
more
of
the
network.
Resources
will
be
accumulating
AOS,
because
ten
percent
of
resource
we're
doing
about
60
million
transactions
per
day
until
block
one
is
doing
six
million
transactions
per
day
and
that's
with
es
I/o
1.8.
Once
we
get
a
2.0
times
what
twelve
six
times.
B
Do
we
really
expect
voice
to
do
36
million
transactions
a
day
early
on
I?
Don't
think
so
so
that
gives
block
one
increasingly
more
stake
in
the
network
and
because
of
that
they're
incentivized
to
kind
of
grow
the
network,
because
the
more
the
more
transactions
going
through
the
network
that
aren't
block
ones
means
that's
kind
of
increasing
the
floor
of
CPU.
So
it's
a
balancing
act,
though
it's
still
going
to
continuously
be
this
balancing
act.
This
is
like
the
one
positive
I
see
out
of
this.
B
A
A
B
A
B
Need
like
a
is
Canada
or
is
Detroit
two
really
dumb
this
down
for
me
with
these
damn
equations,
but
whenever
we
think
is
stakeholders
in
the
network
right
now
you
have
people
self
staked
people
renting
from
wrecks
people
stake
to
wrecks,
and
then
liquid
iou's.
But
with
this
new
model
like
it
seems
super
complicated
at
first
I'm
still
like
overwhelmed
by
that
by
the
complicity
of
it
all.
But
whatever
Dan
like
wrote,
his
updated
tweet.
B
B
A
That's
what's
so
interesting
about
all
this
is
that
it
seems
like
all
of
these
issues,
even
if
there's
a
system
issue.
The
long-term
issue
boils
down
to
a
problem
with
governance,
which
is
that
the
top
21
doesn't
seem
to
want
to
implement
a
lot
of
proposals
and-
and
it
hasn't
really
implemented
any
of
this
far
other
than
the
1.8
features.
But
you
New
York
is
doing
something
to
call
out
some
of
them.
A
They
may
be
sock
puppet
problem,
which
is
that
a
lot
of
these
blog
producers
are
setting
up
multiple
other
additional
blog
producers
that
likely
don't
have
infrastructure.
They
didn't
even
have
a
website
until
recently
and
are
basically
using
that
to
just
drain
money
out
of
the
system
as
much
as
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
over
the
last
three
months
was
drained
out
by
six
sock
puppet
VPS
that
es
New
York
called
out.
A
So
these
are
star
galaxy,
BP,
validator
for
IO
C
of
zeus,
io
b
p1,
us
union
io
b,
peos
athena
b,
p1
and
es
rainbow
BP,
all
bp's
you
probably
haven't
heard
of
because
they
didn't
have
a
website
until
very
recently,
when
somebody
I
guess
from
Shenzhen
registered
all
six
of
their
websites.
At
the
same
time,
under
the
same
account
and
all
these
websites
were
obviously
in
there,
their
BP
JSON
files
on
chain
as
well
I.
Think.
B
What
happened
so
he
is
42
proposed
something
that
got
passed
right
and
it
was
like
the
bare
minimum
to
be
a
block
producer.
We
have
a
website
yet
I
have
this
and
that
and
then
basically
who
I
don't
know
who
proposed
it,
but
they
put
these
six
bp's
feet
to
the
fire
and
said
these
guys
aren't
compliant
bp's
according
to
the
referendum.
We
are
the
proposal
that
we
all
passed
and
then
that's
whenever
all
of
these
BP
spun
up
a
website
at
the
exact
same
time
with
very
similar
templates.
Well,.
A
In
all
with
this,
the
actual
same
registered
owner
of
the
domain
in
the
high
can
system,
which
is
how
it
was
leaked
and
there
there's
really
no
denying
it
either,
because
if
you
look
at
the
web
site
that
they
put
in
their
VP
JSON
file
on
Shane,
which
can
only
be
signed
with
the
block
research
out,
they
put
in
that
web
site.
That
was
then
linked
to
all
six
of
the
other
web
sites
and
here's
the
who
has
search
results
which
are
they're
all
registered
by
the
same
people.
A
While
to
see-
and
then
they
have
those
same
same
websites
linked
on
chains
from
the
official
accounts
shows
that
those
are
their
official
website,
so
I
agree
totally
damning
and
now
there
are
actually
six
different
proposals
for
the
top
fifty
block
producers
to
vote
on
on
whether
or
not
they
want
to
remove
these
six
block
producers,
who
are
very
owned,
and/or
managed
by
a
single
entity.
So
what's
interesting
about
these
proposals,
that
was
that
us
Newark
themselves
has
not
voted
on
them.
A
That's
why
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
of
other
bps,
are
hesitant
to
vote
on
it
because
EOS
New
York
hasn't
yet
Aloha
e
OS
is
the
only
one.
That's
approve
them.
So,
u
s--
new
york,
if
you're
out
there
listening
please
go
vote
on
vote
on
this
approve
the
proposal
that
you
propose
to
give
confidence
to
the
other
block
producers
to
come
in
and
approve
it
as
well.
I
think
you'll
see
a
lot
of
approvals
after
you.
Do
it,
but
nobody's
gonna.
Do
it?
If
you
don't
do
it
first,
yeah.
B
I
just
want
to
call
this
on
is
like
you
read
some
of
the
numbers
that
I
calculated
here.
So
let's
just
put
this
in
the
perspective
of
what's
happening
here.
There's
six
block
producers
they're
all
in
positions
like
what
45
to
60
or
something
and
they've
they've
registered
three
months
ago
and
basically
the
week
that
they
registered
they're
automatically
in
paid
positions,
because
this
graphs
been
showed
like
this
bit
hum
like
proxy.
B
I
think
feed
them
all
of
the
votes,
so
they've
been
in
paid
positions
as
block
producers
for
three
months,
roughly
a
hundred
ten
years
per
day
each
so
every
single
day,
six
hundred
and
sixty
eos
are
just
getting
siphoned
out
of
the
system
into
whenever
these
sock
puppets
are
paying
for
whether
they're
subsidizing
rewards
proxies
or
just
getting
pocketed
by
someone.
I
we
don't
know
because
nobody
can
get
ahold
of
these
BPS
and
if
you
take
the
average
of
like
a
$3,
yo
switch,
it
probably
averaged
over
the
last
three
months.
B
B
B
But
I
think
this
proposal
is
going
to
be
the
most
interesting
visual
we
get
on
where
everyone
stands
and,
like
you
said,
like
Kevin,
yes,
New
York,
like
you
put
this
out
there,
we
know
that
everyone
who
signs
yes
to
this
is
putting
a
crosshairs
on
their
back,
because
whoever
owns
these
top
six
bps
I
think
they're,
also
well-connected
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
behind
the
scenes
probably
know
who
they
are.
So
it's
going
to
ruffle
a
lot
of
feathers
here.
B
I
think
we're
going
to
see
some
fireworks
here
with
seeing
who
supports
this
and
doesn't
support
it
and
the
ones
that
don't
support
it.
Why
like?
Why?
Why
won't
you
support
it
like?
How
could
someone
be
in
favor
of
one
hundred
eighty
thousand
dollars
being
completely
siphoned
out
of
out
of
the
system?
B
A
The
same
people
that
are
making
all
these
sock
puppet
accounts
are
likely
some
of
these
same
people
that
are
in
the
top
twenty
one,
so
I
agree,
I
mean
I,
think
the
probability
that
any
of
the
top
twenty
one
kicks
their
own.
You
know,
money-making,
VPS,
out
of
the
system,
is
basically
zero,
but
I
do
think
it'll
be
an
interesting
vote
to
see
which
peepees
in
the
top
fifty
are
sort
of
for
this
and
which
are
against
it.
So.
B
B
You
can't
whatever
Dan,
proposes
things
you
can't
really
look
at
them
in
a
vacuum.
You
have
to
kind
of
like
look
at
the
last
like
three
things
he
proposed
wasn't,
then
kind
of
combine
them
all
together
and
I.
Don't
think,
we've
seen
the
last
of
the
bonding
of
AOS,
so
the
staking
pools
for
the
three
months
six
month,
12-month
two-year
five-year
and
tenure
I
think
we're
going
to
those
come
back
up
as
far
as
like
what
you
could
do
with
your
tokens
and
with
the
new
resource
model,
so
I
think
step.
One
with
these
changes.
B
We're
going
to
see
is
one
token
one
vote
or
one
divisible
vote,
I
think.
Once
we
see
that
that'll
be
step,
one
to
removing
sock
puppet
BP's
like
there
will
be
no
more
incentive
for
any
of
these
cartel
exchanges
to
spread
out
their
votes.
They'll
just
put
all
their
vote
concentration
on
their
own
VP
and
the
payouts
will
all
be
based
on
vote
percentage.
So,
like.
A
B
They
don't
get
solidified
into
these
positions
because
they
don't
don't
any
EOS.
They
own
significant
stake
in
the
network
and
I.
Think
you
have
to
consider
that.
So
the
question
is:
is
it
their
stake
or
is
it
the
stake
of
their
users
on
their
exchange?
I?
Think
it's
a
little
bit
of
both
so
that
that's
that's
a
big
issue
too.
You
have
to
figure
out
how
you
could
kind
of
remove
in
exchange
being
able
to
vote
with
their
their
users.
Tokens
so
like
you
could
always
lock
up
liquidity.
B
A
Point
is
that
of
the
people
that
you
would
be
impacting
with
a
proposal
like
this
are
the
ones
that
have
to
pass
the
proposal
so
I
don't
think
they're
gonna
pass
it
like.
If,
if
I
it
was
one
of
these
top
ten
to
one
bp's
making
$3,000
a
day
and
that's
guaranteed
today,
I'm
locked
in
I
got
all
the
votes
for
it.
I've
done
all
my
vote
trading
agreements.
Why
would
I
implement
a
new
system
where
that
three
thousand
dollars
a
day
is
not
guaranteed?
I?
Just
don't
think
that's
gonna
happen.
A
A
Just
I
think,
logically
thinking
from
the
perspective
of
the
VP's,
putting
yourself
in
their
shoes
if
you're
making
a
thousand
years
a
day
and
it's
guaranteed
it's
locked
in.
Why
would
you
take
the
risk
on
this
new
one
token
one
divisible
vote
system
and
bird
eyes
that
revenue
for
your
company
I,
don't
think
he's.
B
Well,
they're,
not
earning
a
thousand
years
a
day
is
first
thing
is
a
lot
of
the
revenues
getting
redistributed
to
voter
rewards.
So
if
they
are
earning
a
lot,
they're
definitely
earning
a
lot.
They
don't
want
to
give
up
their
income
I,
don't
want
to
say
they're,
not
doing
anything
but
they're
not
earning
like
in
profits.
The
amounts
that
we
see
but
they're
earning
profit.
I,
don't
get
me
wrong.
So
basically
it's
costing
them
a
lot
of
money
to
stay
in
these
positions
to
earn
these
smaller
amounts.
B
B
B
But
in
his
proposal
like
the
the
cartel
bps
in
the
top,
like,
though,
have
solidified
positions
like
the
top
eight
nine
ten
you're,
never
gonna
be
able
to
move
those
bp's
out
of
their
positions,
but
at
least
you'll
know
that
they're
only
one
entity
and
they'll
be
earning
more
I
mean
I.
Don't
have
it
in
front
of
me:
I'm
not
freshened
up
on
it,
but
I
do
remember
that
I.
A
Think
it's
I
think
it's
definitely
possible.
It
doesn't
matter
of
if
they
want
to
want
to
take
the
risk.
If
you
can
model,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
that
can
be
modeled
out
in
a
new
system
where
you
can
say:
okay,
you
know,
assuming
we
keep
the
votes
that
we
know
that
we
have.
We
know
we're
gonna,
make
this
much
money,
but
there's
a
lot
of
game
theory,
components
that
come
into
play
where
you
know
some
of
the
campi
model.
A
B
So
it's
not
even
like,
like
I,
don't
want
to
call
anyone
out
by
name
because
I
don't
know
who
doing
what
at
these
at
this
point,
but
let's
say
like
exchange
number
one
like
the
executive
team,
isn't
the
one
aren't
the
ones
dealing
with
all
this
vote
trading
stuff?
It's
all
like
these
low-level
employees
that
basically
their
job
is
to
their
vote
trade
and
extract
value
from
the
system
or
get
fired.
So
that's.
A
B
A
Yeah
and
a
percent
and
from
the
you
know,
the
CEO
of
you
know
who
OB
I'm
sure
is
only
concerned
on
one
thing
and
that's
likely
profit.
So
when
the
person
who's
in
charge
of
the
ears
division
and
running
all
the
us
block,
producers
and
the
sock,
puppets
comes
to
them
and
says:
hey,
you
know,
I,
don't
think
we
should
make
this
money
anymore.
I,
don't
think
that's
gonna
fly
with
listen,
yeah.
B
A
Current
opinion
right
now
is
that
it
I
think
it
will
get
solved
as
US
I
go
or
maybe
on
other
ASIO
chains,
but
every
day
that
goes
by
and
we
don't
see
a
solution,
I
get
a
little
bit
more
bearish
on
the
actual
u.s.
main
net
solving
its
problems,
just
because
there's
really
no
leadership
that
wants
to
make
these
changes.
In
my
opinion,
and
of
course
I
could
be
wrong.
A
I
would
love
to
be
proven
wrong,
but
that's
my
current
stance
on
it
now
that
I
think,
maybe
you
did,
the
vision
will
be
thousands
of
chains
in
the
future
and
and
one
of
them
will
solve
the
governance
issue
in
come
up
with
a
good
process,
but
it
just
seems
less
and
less
likely
every
day
that
the
US
may
not
specifically
will
be
the
one
to
solve
those
issues.
Yeah.
B
I
mean
there's
also,
you
could
have
multiple
governance
models
too
I
mean,
let's
say,
I
know:
Oz
New
York's
proposal
wasn't
codified
or
anything
it
like
wasn't.
Implementable
was
just
more
of
an
idea
saying
with
Dan's
yeah
but
hypothetically
like
if
it
was
all
coded
out,
you
could
run
parallel,
yos
main
nets
with
the
same
distribution,
just
differing
governance
models
and
then
see
which
one
would
win
yet.
A
I
think
that
could
be
a
great
solution.
Maybe
somebody
out
there
is
bold
enough
to
actually
fork
the
us
main
that
then
the
question
becomes,
you
know
if
you
can
get
liquidity,
but
I
think
there
there
may
be
well-connected
enough
people
out
there
that
could
go
out
and
fork
it
and
maybe
then
have
some
kind
of
a
new
governance
model
that
can't
be
cartelized.
I
mean.
B
It
would
have
the
same
distribution,
so
you
basically
are
work
with
the
same
snapshot,
but
with
differing
ways
and
governance.
And
if
everyone
who
owned
Dios
gets
one
of
all
of
these
different
models,
then
the
the
market
caps
going
to
shift
to
the
one
that
people
like
the
most,
because
if
you
want
to
play
it
extra,
safe,
every
fork
and
I,
don't
know
what
a
four
could
even
look
like.
This
is
like
the
first
I'm.
B
Even
talking
about
this
I
haven't
really
thought
it
out,
but
like
what
would
a
fork
even
look
like
who
would
have
the
EOS
tokens
symbol?
I
guess
would
be
like
the
biggest
thing
in
question
and
I
guess.
The
original
chain
would
most
likely
keep
that
unless,
like
ever
a
long
period
of
time,
it
just
got
beat.
A
Oh
yeah
I
mean,
if
you
look
in
the
top
twenty
one
and
who
the
top
ten
twenty
serves
are
a
lot
of
them
are
exchanges
with
BitFenix
lob
okx
people
like
nude
exes
at
the
centralized
exchange,
big
one
and
probably
some
others
and
a
missing
whale
acts
as
well.
So
a
lot
of
the
merge
changes
that
can
they
basically
control
those
listing
decisions,
so
I
think
it's.
A
If
there
was
a
fork,
it
would
have
to
be
under
a
new
token
name
and
I
also
think
if
somebody
is
gonna
fork
it
out
there
air-dropping
to
the
eos
token
holders
might
not
make
the
most
sense,
because
the
current
distribution
is
largely
in
part.
What
put
us
in
this
situation?
Obviously
the
governance
configuration
have
a
lot
to
do
with
that
as
well.
B
Think
the
u.s.
main
that
will
always
have
value
it's
the
most
secure
chain,
whether
like
the
bp's,
whether
you
alaikum
you
don't
they've,
never
stolen
anything.
I
guess
you
could
argue
whether
they've
stolen
with
the
siphoned
tokens
but
they've,
never
reversed
transactions,
or
things
like
that.
I
think.
Having
that
high
market
cap
makes
it
a
lot
harder
to
attack,
so
I
think
there's
always
going
to
be
value
there.
You
look
at
a
chain
like
I,
don't
know
Talos
or
any
of
the
other
ones
you
could
it
with
enough
money.
B
You
could
put
them
in
the
same
predicament
that
the
main
nuts
in
here
like
right
now,
a
lot
of
the
sister
chains
are
pointing
out
that
they
don't
have
the
same
issues
and
they
do
have
some
precautionary
measures,
especially
tailors
they've,
got
I,
think
a
board
that
could
just
kick
out
BP's
that
aren't
cooperating.
I,
think
a
lot
of
them
have
that
but
like
whenever
there's
incentive
the
game.
The
system
is,
whenever
you
get
all
these
stress
tests
and
absolutely
until
these
other
have
the
incentive
to
stress
test
and
game
them.
B
B
Incentives
are
still
aligned
with
the
EOS
main
that
I
still
think
voice
will
launch
on
the
US
main
that,
even
if
it
has
private
and
public
like
chains
doing
all
kinds
of
crazy
stuff
in
the
back
end,
III
think
that
with
the
new
resource
model,
if
it's
implemented,
I
think
the
points
I
brought
up
where
block
1
will
be
feeding
into
the
recs
with
their
transaction
costs
and
then
also
accumulating
AOS
will
more
align
them
with
the
main
net.
Also,
so
we'll
see
what
happens,
I
think
they're.
B
A
To
say
it's
something
like
90
but
I
could
I
could
be
wrong
in
that
figure.
That's
I'm
not
looking
at
the
blocks
dashboard
now,
but
it's
pretty
exciting
definitely
tune
in
the
next
24
hours.
If
you're
not
and
everything
Neos
telegram
go
ahead
and
join
it
T
dot
me
slash
everything
underscore
yes,
I
know
a
bunch
of
people
will
be
talking
about
it
in
there.
So
if
they
did
all.