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Rob and Zack are joined by Adrianna Mendez, the Cypherglass community manager, as they review the wild ride that was 2018 in the EOS.IO ecosystem. They discuss the major announcements and events that made 2018 such a memorable year including the unveiling of EOS VC, the Mainnet Launch, Dealing with FUD, and more! Also included are highlights from Brendan Blumer, Dan Larimer, and Brock Pierce.
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A
All
right
welcome
to
the
brand-new
everything
years
podcast.
The
flagship
show
here
at
everything
use
I'm
your
host
that
go
and
I'm
joined
today
by
not
one
but
two
members
of
the
cypher
glass
team.
Our
core
sponsors
here
at
everything
is
community
manager,
Adrianna,
Mendez
and
founder
and
CEO
Rob
Finch.
Thank.
B
You
all
so
much
for
joining
us
for
a
very
special
episode
of
everything
else.
We're
gonna
be
taking
this
time
to
cover
a
little
bit
of
current
news,
but
also
look
back
on
the
entire
year,
the
crazy
year
that
has
been
2018
and
everything.
That's
happened
for
the
es
community,
but
once
again
welcome
back
to
the
longest-running
weekly
us
podcast,
the
everything
years
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you
all
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much
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positive,
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A
On
today's
episode,
we're
going
to
be
covering
a
little
bit
of
news,
including
the
chin
tide,
2.0
blog
post-
that
they
mentioned
with
some
interesting
feature,
updates
on
that
a
lost
key
recovery
tool
and
more,
but
mostly
we're
gonna,
be
recapping
the
whole
year
of
2018
and
the
wild
ride.
That
was
you
I
before.
B
We
started
that.
Do
you
need
to
mention
that
this
podcast
is
sponsored
by
cipher
clasp,
but
it's
not
sponsored
by
anybody
else
at
the
moment,
if
you're
listening
along
you're
following
our
opinions,
you
know
you're
excited
in
this
technology,
please
don't
take
any
of
our
opinions
or
anything
we're
saying
as
a
legal,
financial,
tax,
professional
or
any
other
kind
of
advice.
B
A
B
It's
pretty
interesting,
so
we've
seen
all
of
these.
You
know
I
like
to
call
them
a
new
type
of
business
model,
sort
of
started
out
with
dice,
where
the
token
holders
you
know
receive
all
of
the
profits
from
the
platform
the
token
holders
can
in
the
future.
You
know,
vote
on
the
direction
of
the
platform
it
kind
of
democratize
as
a
business
structure,
we're
seeing
like
these
dowels
sort
of
start
to
be
created,
and
now
it
looks
like
jin-tae
in
there
2.0
version
are
gonna,
be
doing
something
similar
with
the
checks.
B
Token
and
they're
also
gonna
be
expanding
out
to
launch
a
decks
as
well,
let's
centralized
exchange.
So
if
you've
used
new
decks,
you've
traded
tokens
there
soon
you'll
be
able
to
do
the
same
thing
on
jin-tae,
while
you're
also,
you
know,
leasing
out
your
tokens,
leasing,
tokens
from
other
people
buying
and
selling
ram
there
they're
trying
to
make
this
in
an
entire
sort
of
all-encompassing
resource
exchange
in
a
lot
of
ways.
So
it
looks
pretty
interesting.
I'm.
A
Excited
because
up
until
this
point,
the
only
dividend
tokens
we've
been
seeing
have
been
the
gambling
gaps
and
I
mean
they
just
have
a
negative
connotation
to
him,
because
it's
gambling
I
mean
it's
a
business
model,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
it.
It's
it's
provably,
fair,
but
I,
think
some
of
these
features
in
jin-tae,
2.0
or
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
one
being
the
recs
integration.
A
So
we've
been
talking
about
the
recs
for
months
now
and
it's
finally
within
arm's
reach
and
it's
being
tested
on
jungle
testing
it
as
we
speak
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
being
on
this
jin-tae
platform,
so
we're
gonna
have
like
competing
token
leasing
between
the
recs
and
then
the
that
shinty
already
provides
I'm
looking
forward
to
them
having
the
RAM
trading
rate
on
there.
But
the
feature
most
looking
forward
is
to
the
auto-renew,
so
they
have
audited.
A
News
and
and
and
market
orders
that
they,
you
could
basically
set
a
price.
Basically
I'm,
not
gonna
lease
out
my
tokens
unless
someone's
willing
to
pay
X
price
I
think
that's
a
really
cool
feature,
it's
very
similar
to
what
we're
used
to
with
trading
tokens,
for
example,
by
putting
it
like
a
stop
limit
order.
For
example,
yeah.
B
And
what's
what's
like
that
feature
also
I
think
what's
cool
about
it?
Is
that
I
think
it
should
bring
down
prices
over
time
because
if
I
say
hey
I'm
willing
to
do
it
for
point,
one
percent
I
can
just
leave
that
order
up
and
it
can,
you
know,
execute
it
can
lease
out.
Then
I
can
get
my
tokens
back
and
it
will
automatically
execute
again
in
this
cycle.
So
it
should
keep
the
prices
down.
What
may
you
Adriana
well.
C
I
really
like
that
they're
gonna
be
multiple
chained
facing
they're.
Gonna
include
all
of
the
chains
that
are
going
out
on
iOS
I/o,
so
I
do
like
that
they're
supporting
the
entire
EOS
ecosystem,
not
just
the
US
chain,
which
I
think
is
going
to
drive
competition
and
ultimately
drive
better
chains
in
the
future.
So
I'm
really
excited
to
see
them
kind
of
adding
access
to
multiple
chains
and,
and
you
know,
spreading
out
their
wings
throughout
the
EOS
ecosystem
versus
just
staying
on
one
chain.
I.
C
Think
that's
like
I
said
it's
going
to
drive
all
these
really
cool
features
within
different
chains,
and
and
it
won't
matter
if
you
want
to
use
you
know
warbly
or
Telos
or
any
of
these
other
chains,
if
you
think
they're,
better
you'll
be
able
to
access
that
on
jin-tae
and
I.
Do
like
that
they're
going
to
be
giving
you
know,
Rex
isn't
out
yet,
but
I
do
like
the
idea
of
having
the
competition
come
out
before
this
way,
it's
driving
even
more
competition
and
and
bettering
Rex
at
the
end.
At
the
other
day,
yeah.
B
And
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
gonna.
Have
questions
are
gonna,
say:
ok,
how
do
I?
How
do
I
buy
the
czechs
token?
How
do
I
get
it
all
we
know
so
far
and
I
talked
to
Kevin
Atias,
u.s.,
New,
York,
I,
tweeted
them
and
said:
hey,
you
know
any
more
details.
The
details
in
that
blog
post
that
I'm
sure
will
be
linked
below
are
the
only
details
that
are
out
now.
We
know
that
you'll
be
able
to
get
checks
tokens
from
actually
using
jin-tae.
B
You
know
trading
on
it,
leasing
out
tokens
buying
bandwidth
from
other
people.
All
these
different
things
will
give
you
tokens
it's
unclear.
If
they're
gonna
do
a
token
sale,
there's
going
to
be
some
other
way
to
get
them,
but
that's
all
we
know
for
now
once
we
know
more,
we'll
obviously
update
you
guys,
but
if
you're
about
to
type
that
question
out,
we
do
not
know
the
answer
yet,
unfortunately,
and.
A
A
Tokens
that's
how
you're
gonna
to
accumulate
them
is
by
actually
using
the
platform
which
is
really
cool,
so
I
guess
we
can't
talk
about
jin-tae
without
the
chin
tie
proxy
guys,
there's
I
believe
five
spots
left
and
going
through
an
application
process
either
of
you
guys
want
to
explain
how
it's
been
explained
to
you,
because
there
hasn't
been
a
whole
lot
of
information
and
as
far
as
I
understand,
the
applications
haven't
been
like
delivered
to
the
chin
tie
team.
Yet
right
right.
C
So
the
chin
tie
proxy
is
managed
by
a
set
of
five
proxy
managers
and
they're.
All
sponsors
of
the
chin
tie
resource
exchange,
so
David
from
iOS
42
delegated
this
down
to
five
proxy
managers
and
they
are
all
active
in
the
EOS
ecosystem,
they're
all
a
part
of
block
producers.
So
they
are
all
aware
of
what
makes
up
a
good
block
producer
and
they
get
together.
A
They're
proving
to
be
a
monster
proxy
I,
don't
know
if
they're
number
one
or
number
two
at
the
moment,
but
last
week
they
had
about
fifteen
and
a
half
million
votes
staked
to
their
proxies.
That's
how
many
tokens
are
actually
using
the
shin
type
platform,
and
we
could
only
expect
that
number
to
double
triple
quadruple
once
you're
able
to
actually
earn
cheques
tokens
by
using
the
platform
and
use
the
recs
on
the
platform
and
in
cross-chain,
so
that
that's
the
cool
part
is
the
checks.
A
Or
renting
on
chin,
ty
warbly
as
long
as
you're
doing
it
through
chin
tie
you're
earning
one
token,
so
it's
going
to
be
very
similar
to
bank
or
so
the
bank
where
token
how
it's
on
aetherium
and
AOS.
In
this
case,
it's
just
all
yo
is
cos
IO
chains,
but
you're
earning
that
that
token,
and
using
that
token,
on
all
chains
and
platforms
which
is
really
cool,
yeah.
E
E
B
First
of
all,
I
think
it's
the
right
move
from
hash
and
we
totally
agree
at
cipher
class.
If
you
look
at
the
community
in
the
community's
response
to
EKF,
when
these
orders
have
come
down,
they've
really
done
way
more
harm
than
good
from
a
you
know,
chain,
reputation,
standpoint
from
an
immutability
standpoint
and
I
think
that's
sort
of
the
general
consensus
not
just
have
the
block
producers,
but
also
have
the
community
so
I
think
he
kept.
B
You
know
and
I've
said
this
over
the
last
couple
you
see:
keV
really
doesn't
have
any
power
any
more
because
the
VP's
aren't
giving
them
that
power.
So
I
think
what's
gonna
happen
to
referendum,
we
get
them
out.
We
go
to
a
free
market
arbitration
and
then
issues
like
these
will
continue
to
be
solved,
but
the
automated
lost
key
solution
so
that
this
big
controversy
was
around.
B
Basically,
the
first
lost
key
account
where
ETF
went
out
to
the
block
producers
and
said:
hey
vote
to
approve
this
proposal
to
change
the
key,
basically
change
the
the
key
that
owns
this
account
to
this
other
key,
because
this
person
has
proved
cryptographically
that
they
own
be
the
etherium
account
associate
with
the
u.s.
account
and
what
that
would
do
is
not
only
give
that
person
back
their
account
that
they
lost
the
key
to,
but
it
would
also
set
a
precedent
for
all
of
these.
Other
people.
B
I
think
there
are
several
thousand
other
accounts,
totaling
several
million
u.s.
I
believe
that
would
then
get
access
to
their
accounts
through
a
similar
process,
but
it
looks
like
now.
We
may
have
an
automated
solution
where,
if
you
have
the
private
key
of
your
aetherium
address,
that's
associated
with
your
EOS
account,
since
we
you
know,
went
through
that
whole
claim
process
when
the
main
that
launched.
If
you
have
that
private
key,
you
should
be
able
to
automatically
recover
your
account
without
the
block
producers
intervening
without
there
being
this
major
precedent
set
on
chain.
B
So
we'll
continue
to
monitor
this.
It
looks
like
you
know:
nothing
is
out
officially
it's
just
been
proposed
by
US
nation
at
this
point,
but
hopefully
this
is
a
solution
that
not
only
gets
people
back
their
keys
but
also
prevents
you
know,
setting
a
precedent
where
a
BP
can
change
somebody
else's
key,
because
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
lot
of
slippery
slopes
that
sort
of
go
along
with
that
and
I
hope.
That's
not
something
that
actually
has
to
happen.
I'm.
A
C
I,
like
sage
wives,
a
lot
because
they're
taking
a
whack
at
dispute
resolution
on
change.
That's
automated
and
scalable.
This
is
one
of
the
talking
points
that
I've
come
across
more
often
in
2018
with
people
that
ask
me
about
yo,
says:
hey
I,
hear
that
there's
a
lot
of
recourse
action
and
it's
available
on
iOS
and
then
I
have
to
explain
the
governance
process
that
this
kind
of
decision
goes
through
with
block
producers,
and
you
can
you
can
kind
of
see
them
get
a
little
weary
of
it.
C
A
B
So
this
one
targeted,
fast
win,
and
this
time
it
was
not
a
you
know,
node
level
system
level
exploit
this
was
actually
an
exploit
in
their
contract,
so
somehow
or
another
I,
don't
think
the
team
has
actually
released
the
specifics.
Somebody
got
a
hold
of
their
private
keys
that
were
associated
with
the
fast
wind
contract
account
and
what
that
person
was
able
to
do
was
basically
go
in
mint.
A
bunch
of
fast
tokens
just
create
a
bunch
of
new
ones.
B
Out
of
thin
air,
sell
them
on
exchanges,
do
all
kinds
of
stuff
that
obviously
directly
impact
the
way
that
that
entire
business
and
that
entire
first
one
ecosystem
is
running.
So
the
solution
that's
been
put
in
place
by
the
fast
wind
team
is
is
actually
pretty
interesting
and
something
that
I
don't
think.
B
We've
really
seen
before,
and
it's
controversial
on
both
sides,
I'm
sort
of
undecided
on
whether
it's
a
good
thing
or
a
bad
thing,
I
think
maybe
parts
are
good
and
parts
are
bad,
but
anyway
effectively
what
they're
doing
is
they're
ear,
dropping
a
new
token
to
anybody
that
has
the
fast
wind
tokens
right
now.
So
if
you
have
a
hundred
fast
you'll
get
a
hundred
of
this
new
token
as
well
and
then
they're
effectively
just
replacing
the
old
fast
token.
With
this
new
token
and
the.
A
B
Exactly
so
it's
it's
so
interesting.
They
have
a
fork
like
this,
where
essentially
they're
trying
to
roll
back
their
token
to
before
the
hacker
got
into
the
account
so
they're,
just
air
dropping
to
everybody,
except
for
the
hacker,
except
for
all
of
the
transactions
that
were
associated
with
that
person.
You
know
taking
advantage
of
this
exploit
and
printing
more
fast
token,
so
they're,
just
hey
we're
gonna
drop
a
new
token.
Basically,
on
this
preview
snapshot
kind
of
roll
everything
back,
which
is
interesting.
You
know
it
doesn't
affect
the
EOS
ecosystem
on
any
kind
of
level.
B
So
if
you're
not
familiar
instead
of
having
one
private
key
I
could
set
up
a
three
of
five
key
on
a
token
contract
that
requires
three
out
of
five
of
our
team
members
to
approve
a
transaction
in
order
for
it
to
go
through.
On
that
token
contract-
and
in
this
case
a
multi-sig
contract
like
that,
would
have
prevented
this
attack
because
they
wouldn't
been
able
to
steal
one
key
and
suddenly
mint
all
these
tokens,
they
would
have
had
to
steal
three
out
of
the
five
and
then
try
to
do
this.
So
I
think
it's.
B
It's
even
more
important
that
we
encourage
other
DAP
developers
to
implement
this
standard
for
me
as
New
York,
so
that
hey,
you
know,
put
a
multi-state
contract
on
your
token
account
so
that
you
can
first
swage
people's
concerns
that
this
is
safe,
but
also
prevent
things
like
this
from
happening
in
the
future.
So
we'll
see
what
happens
with
it
all,
but
that's
kind
of
the
gist
I
mean.
A
It's
it
seems
like
a
decent
enough
solution.
I
mean
they.
They
didn't
really
have
a
whole
lot
of
options
so
I
out
of
the
options
they
had
this
one's
decent
enough.
The
only
people
who
would
really
lose
on
this
are
the
people
who
maybe
used
new
decks
and
bought
or
sold
tokens
between
the
time
of
the
hack
and
the
time
that
this
snapshot
was
taken.
That
they're
dropping
these
new
tokens
too.
So
I
guess
as
far
as
collateral
damage
they're
trying
to
minimize
it.
So
that's
probably
based
on
the
the
trading
volume
on
new
decks.
B
And
I
did
I
did
notice
that
there
are
Theron,
like
1.2
billion
of
their
ten
billion
tokens
I
believe
it
is
which
were
yeah.
They
were
previously
the
team's
token,
so
they
are
taking
a
taking
actions
that
negatively
impact
their
team
in
order
to
try
to
positively
impact
the
platform.
So
I
think
that's
pretty
admirable,
but
we'll
see
how
it
all
works
out.
We'll.
A
So
I
guess
I'll
just
lead
into
like
how
the
year
2018
even
got
started,
so
it
if
we
go
back
to
December
2017,
it's
a
little
bit
before
2018.
But
what
happened
was
we
were
all
waiting
for
dawn
2.0,
so
that
was
the
big
software
release
we're
waiting
for
on
github.
It
originally
had
a
milestone
date
of
December
31st,
so
it
should've
been
a
new
year,
but
slok
one
tweeted
out
that
it
was
coming
early.
A
Christmas
was
coming
early,
so,
instead
of
it
coming
out
on
December
31st,
they
moved
their
timeline
up
which
never
happens
in
software
development
yeah
it's
the
last
thing
that
ever
happens
in
suffer
development
always
takes
twice
as
long
as
you
planned
it
to
so
they
moved
it
up
and
December.
Fourth
done,
2.0
was
released
and
I
think
that
kind
of
started
a
parabolic
run
that
led
us
into
2018.
A
A
A
A
B
Definitely
so
when
I
was
when
I
was
still
at
IC
Oller,
we
all
you
know
twice
a
year,
we
would
go
on
a
company
retreat
and
that
first
company
retreat
that
we
went
with
to
Vail
Colorado
as
a
team,
and
we
were
out
at
dinner
one
night
and
we're
all
sitting
around
the
table.
And
of
course
it's
been
like
a
crazy
couple
weeks.
B
This
is
sort
of
the
peak
of
the
the
bull
market
back
in
2017,
nobody's
freaking
out
and
now
we're
in
January
don
2.0
on
our
heels
and
gos
just
starts
to
run
or
at
the
table,
and
if
you
haven't
been
through
a
bull
market
before
running
is
when
you
know
all
of
a
sudden.
The
token
is
just
jumping
in
price
just
keeps
going,
it
keeps
going,
keeps
in
so
we're
all
freaking
out
of
dinner.
B
Every
10
minutes
everybody's
pulling
out
there
with
your
portfolio
and
refreshing
it
and
seeing
what
the
price
is
and
I
remember
at
dinner,
I
think
it
went
from
out
of
the
ten
or
eleven
dollars.
While
we
were
sitting
at
the
table
to
20
plus
by
the
time
we
left
and
and
and
you
know,
finished
our
meal,
it
was
a
while
let.
B
A
B
A
A
Got
on
the
plane
in
like
two
days
later
at
an
all-time
high,
which
is
around
eighteen
dollars,
and
that
was
the
e
for
us.
It
was
the
evening
leading
up
to
the
South
Korea
meetup
livestream,
because
we
were
all
expecting
big
announcements
and
there
actually
were
big
announcements.
They
announced
Richard
Jung,
who
is
the
former
CEO
of
bit
hum,
which
at
the
time
I
think
was
the
largest
highest
volume
exchange
in
South
Korea,
since
that
they
announced
ever
a
PDA
and
I
believe
this
is
the
meet
up
where
they
announced
the
launch
of
years
VC.
A
F
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
funding
I've
mentioned
in
some
informal
settings
a
little
bit
about
our
plans
in
the
past
about
how
we're
going
to
be
deploying
capital
into
EOS,
IO,
innovation
and
today,
I
want
to
introduce
us
PC
us
PC
is
a
program
that's
going
to
deploy
1
billion
dollars
of
capital
into
iou's
projects
over
the
course
of
the
next
couple
of
years.
We're
now
making
a
formal
commitment
to
put
the
majority
of
the
capital.
That's
come
in
through
the
token
sale
back
into
the
innovators.
F
One
of
the
biggest
problems
with
this
space
today
is
that
most
of
the
token
generation
processes
are
actually
destroying
resources.
So
we
take
a
look
at
Bitcoin
in
etherium,
we're
paying
tens
of
billions
of
dollars
a
year
right
to
process
very
few
transactions,
in
fact
in
Bitcoin
we're
paying
hundreds
of
dollars
of
transaction
per
transaction
before
transaction
fees
through
the
network
inflation.
Through
the
token
cell.
Over
the
last
year,
block
1
has
been
able
to
take
in
those
resources
and
now
we're
going
to
be
deploying
them
back
into
the
entrepreneurs.
F
This
is
going
to
stimulate
more
innovation
right.
One
of
the
goals
of
their
token
sale
was
to
create
a
fair,
transparent
distribution
process,
but
one
of
our
major
goals
was
also
to
do
something
that
was
not
so
destructive
from
a
resource
perspective,
something
that
allowed
us
to
keep
that
value
and
redeploy
it
back
into
the
ecosystem,
so
want
to
introduce
the
structure
that
we're
going
to
be
using
to
do
this.
We
didn't
we
sat
down
and
we
said
if
we're
going
to
deploy
a
billion
dollars
into
eoeo
projects.
F
What's
the
best
way
to
do
so
right,
how
are
we
going
to
foster
the
most
innovation?
How
are
we
going
to
help
those
projects
succeed,
and
this
is
the
structure
that
we
we
have
put
forth.
This
is
our
block.
One
is
going
to
be
working
with
VC
partners
in
order
to
deploy
this
capital,
so
it's
going
to
be
investing
in
different
vent,
lead,
get
leading
venture
capital
units
throughout
the
world
right,
in
addition
to
block
once
capital
we're
gonna
be
bringing
capital
in
from
those
partners.
F
So
it's
gonna
leverage
up
those
resources
and
then
drive
it
back
into
the
tail
end
of
innovation.
It's
gonna
give
us
glow
at
global
access
to
projects.
These
VCS
are
already
seeing
the
deals
they're
already
working
with
a
lot
of
projects
and
they're
in
an
incredible
space
to
educate
the
projects
about
AOS
capabilities
right,
we're
firm
believers.
This
technology
is
the
only
technology.
That's
going
to
actually
allow
the
blockchain
to
scale.
It's
the
first
technology,
that's
going
to
allow
us
to
launch
projects
like
steam.
F
It
like
bitshares,
the
next
Facebook
the
next
uber
distributed
communities
that
are
ready
to
disrupt
the
Fortune
500's.
A
lot
of
the
talk
over
the
last
couple
years
has
been
about.
Bitcoin
has
been
about
money,
digital
currency,
but
I
think
that
in
2018
and
into
2019
the
conversations
gonna
just
shift
to
Dax
or
distributed
autonomous
collectives
or
communities
we
talked
about
earlier.
F
The
partner
VCS
will
be
further
putting
capital
into
these
vehicles,
so
we're
actually
going
to
be
putting
a
lot
more
than
a
billion
dollars
of
capital
into
eoseo
innovation,
and
we
think
that
the
combination
of
the
partnerships
and
the
combination
of
all
this
capital
coming
together,
that
we've
been
able
to
preserve
through
the
token
sale,
is
really
going
to
follow.
Really
going
to
drive
a
level
of
innovation
that
we
haven't
yet
seen
so
on
January
23rd,
we're
gonna
be
announcing
our
first
VC
partner
and.
A
A
Next
day
we're
so
bullish
on
it,
but
the
price
dump
like
you,
can't
make
people
happy
so
yeah.
That's
how
the
years
started
off
for
Rob
and
I.
How
did
the
years
start
off
for
you
Adriana,
because
you
were
with
cypher
glass
yet
back
in
January?
What
was
your
ruin,
the
EOS
ecosystem?
Back
then,
were
you
did
you
hold
tokens
back
then?
Yeah.
C
Yeah
I
did
hold
tokens
at
that
point.
I
had
been
so
steadily
filling
my
bags
and
just
kind
of
watching
I
was
a
huge
aetherium
person
back
before
es
was
announced
and
I
always
thought
that
the
most
you
know
the
most
obvious
problem
with
ethereum
was
its
scalability.
So
when
he
came
out,
I
was
super
quick
to
jump
on
it.
I
had
been
participating
in
the
crypto
world
for
about
two
or
three
years.
At
that
point,
just
slowly
investing
watching
2017,
you
know
blow
up
my
bags.
That
was
a
huge
win
for
me.
C
B
A
D
C
Then
and
then
you
become
in
you
know
maximalist
so
you
know
so
to
speak,
and
then
you
start
telling
everybody.
You
know
it's
never
gonna
go
back
down
under
this
price.
I
have
a
few
people
that
are
looking
at
me
like
what
what
was
that
I
told
him?
Hey,
you
got
a
you
got
a
buy
when
the
prices
lower
lower
that
average
slowly.
E
C
Average
but
yeah
I
mean
back
in
the
beginning
of
the
era.
I
was
just
just
an
iOS
fan.
I
was
trying
to
learn
everything
that
I
could
learn
about
it.
You
know,
I
had
some
experience
with
steam
and
bitshares
I
knew
what
those
were
I
knew
who
Dan
was,
but
it
wasn't
until
things
started
popping
off
in
telegram
and
I
think
that
was
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
that
I
really
started
to
learn
what
vos
was
capable
of,
and
that's
when
I,
just
bit
down
really
really
hard.
C
B
C
So
earlier
this
year,
I,
you
know
I've
been
blogging
in
the
crypto
space
for
a
while
kind
of
volunteering
and
throwing
my
skill
set
at
the
market.
But
this
was
the
first
time
I
had
ever
been
approached
about
a
full-time,
serious
position
that
would
take
me
from
you
know,
being
paid
in
Fiats
being
paid
in
crypto,
which
was
an
awesome
transition.
I
got
I
was
reached
out
to
you
by
a
headhunter
who
said:
hey,
we've
got
this
Delta
Block
producer
looking
to
come
on
scene
and
we're
interested
in
the
community
manager.
C
He
set
me
up
with
the
call
with
Rob
I.
Think
Rob
and
I
had
a
call
for
maybe
20
minutes,
and
it
was.
It
was
like
after
the
first
question
that
it
it
was
instantaneous
just
that
we
should
be
working
together
because
oh
yeah,
we
just
kept.
We
just
kept
answering
questions
and
talking
to
the
point
where
and
it
ended
up
being
a
get-to-know-you
interview.
C
A
A
B
Ben
November
I
think
it
was
November
2017.
We
decided
and
I
think
that's
when
the
first
use
New
York
meetup
I've
had
you
know,
sort
of
been
announced.
So
I
was
involved
a
little
bit
with
a
black
chain
called
rise
and
running
a
VP
there
and
a
little
bit
dabbling
in
liske,
never
owned.
My
own
VP
enlist
but
was
very
involved,
and
you
know
Saul
all
of
the
bad
stuff
happening
there
with
collusion.
But
anyway,
so
we
went
to
that.
First
year's
New
York
meet
up
I,
don't
even
know.
B
B
But
we
had
this
whole
thing
ready
to
go
with
this
big
company
and
they
all
the
servers
and
in
like
the
best
datacenter
in
the
world,
and
we
were
ready
to
go
and
right
before
we're
about
to
sign
the
deal.
This.
This
news
comes
out
that
they're
being
investigated
by
the
SEC
for
a
few
different
things
that
they
were
doing
and
we're
like.
Oh
god,
like
we
can't
jump
into
a
partnership
with
these
people
under
active
investigation
with
the
SEC,
not
knowing
how
it's
gonna
turn
out
and
a
lot
of
times.
B
Those
things
you
know
turn
out
fine,
but
the
threat
of
an
active
investigation
is
what
it's
like.
Okay,
we
can't
sign
this
Agreement
a
day
after
the
same
day,
this
news
comes
out,
so
we
basically
scribed
everything
with
them
said
sorry
guys
like
here's
the
situation,
they
understood
I,
think
you
know
where
we
were
coming
from.
I
think
they
would
have
done
the
same
thing
if
they
were
in
our
shoes
and
then
it
was
like.
Okay,
we
gotta
get
this
together
and
just
started.
You
know
trying
to
talk
to
people.
B
Finding
people
then
put
us
in
touch
with
and
Ben
is
really
the
person
who
who
got
a
lot
of
this
team
together,
so
huge
credits
to
him.
He
put
us
in
touch
with
Jessie,
proud
man,
our
tech
advisor
who
then
put
us
in
touch
with
Ross
and
J,
or
with
Ross,
who
was
our
first
tech
guy
Van
Brunt
on
James,
as
our
second
tech
guy
Ben
helped
with
a
headhunter
getting
Adriana
on
board
and
then
I
helped
get
Rick
on
board
a
financial
advisor.
B
A
B
A
You're,
it
was
your
idea
to
start
the
podcast.
So
why
don't
you
explain
me
because
I
don't
even
know
where
the
I
came
into
your
head,
because
I
had
no
intentions
of
ever
doing
anything
publicly
and
at
the
time
it
was
just
audio
only
so
how
did
this
thing
even
start?
Because
I
can't
really
remember
I.
Just
remember
you
asking
me
one
day.
Yes,
yes,.
B
I
had
started
the
main
like
I
sue,
alert
interview,
podcast
of
it
I
was,
you
know.
No,
it
wasn't
like
a
the
very
very
early
days
of
ICO
alert
and
I
started
out
with
some
just
on
my
laptop
doing
this
audio
only
with
Skype
and
when
he
just
came
out.
There
was
so
much
to
talk
about
I
feel
like
there
was
so
much
going
on
and
you
were
like
the
first
persons
act
that
I
could
talk
to
and
be
like.
B
Oh
wow,
like
you
get
it,
you
see
where
this
is
going
like
you're
as
excited
about
this
as
I
am
what
I
will
talk
about
this
on
on
a
podcast
and
we'll
just
record
the
conversations
that
we're
having
anyway,
because
we
would
sit
at
the
office
and
just
talk
and
we're
having
lunch
or
throughout
the
day?
Hey?
Did
you
see
this
thing
about
es?
Did
you
see
the
you
know
es
VC
whatever
it
is,
so
we
just
decided
one
day
to
record.
B
E
G
E
A
E
G
F
First
time
an
average
person
hears
about
an
insurance
product,
for
example,
that
half
their
premiums
and
gives
them
more
inclusive
service
that
they
can
rely
on
when
a
child
with
cystic
fibrosis
has
to
submit
some
type
of
experimental
surgery
to
the
insurance
claim
and
they're
being
judged
or
approved
by
other
people
in
their
same
situation.
This
is
going
to
lead
people
to
adopt
cryptocurrencies
so
that
they
can
take
advantages
of
the
services
that
lower
premiums
or
provide
just
fundamentally
better
products.
We're.
G
G
Take
these
things
for
granted
that
we
got
bank
accounts
and
credit
cards,
and
these
things
that
make
our
lives
kind
of
function
well
and
most
of
the
world
doesn't
have
it,
and
so
in
the
same
way
that
the
internet,
democratized
knowledge
and
information
and
communication.
This
technology
is
about
to
democratize,
the
financial
world
and
it's
the
least
fortunate
people
on
the
planet
that
stand
to
benefit
the
most
from
it.
I'm.
F
Continually
blown
away
at
the
things
that
people
are
coming
out
and
talking
to
us
about
whether
it's
using
the
blockchain
to
subsidize
universal
basic
income
to
using
the
blockchain
to
curb
growth,
global
warming.
What
I've
seen
and
what
I've
become
convinced
is
that
the
blockchain
is
capable
of
doing
things
that
even
governments
are
not.
A
That
that
those
videos
were
a
big
reason
and
on
top
of
sitting
next
to
rob
every
day
and
talking
about
EOS,
that
that
was
kind
of
what
led
to
this
excitement
we'll
get
into
some
of
the
other
things
that
happen
throughout
the
year.
But
I
think
the
main
that
launched
was
an
exciting
time
for
everyone.
So.
A
B
Yeah,
so
it
was
a
year-long,
ICO
and
split
up
into
23
hour
rounds.
The
first
round
was
actually
5
days
long
and
at
the
end
of
that
five
day
period
they
listened
on
exchanges,
they
were
on
bid,
Finex
and
then
slowly
added
some
more
exchanges.
But
then,
after
that,
first
five-day
period
it
was
23
hour
rounds
and
the
reason
why
I
was
23
hours
was
so
that
every
day
we
would
end
in
a
new
time
zone
and
over
the
course
of
I,
think
three
hundred
and
fifty
different
23
hour
periods.
B
They
could
give
everybody
a
fair
chance.
They,
you
know
dollar-cost
average
in
if
you
don't
have
a
bunch
of
money,
ready
to
invest
right
now
and
this
whole
time
telling
people
that
the
tokens
are
worthless,
which
is
where
a
lot
of
this
you
know
us
is
a
scam
us,
as
this
came
out,
because
they
were
saying
you
know,
these
tokens
are
going
to
be
worthless.
They're
gonna
be
locked
at
the
end
of
the
sighs
yeah
and
then
maybe
a
community
will
launch
it
and
honor
the
snapshot.
So
that
was
this.
This
whole
thing.
B
B
So
if
there
was
a
hundred
eight
hundred
hundred
people
in
it
and
there
were
two
million
euro,
so
obviously
those
hundred
people,
depending
on
how
much
they
put
in,
would
split
the
EOS
and
that's
how
you
got
the
price
and
it
created
this
interesting
arbitrage
thing
from
the
exchanges
to
the
to
the
ICO,
which
is
I,
think
how
they
made
most
their
money.
If
you
think
you
know,
if
you
put
a
hundred
million
dollars
into
arbitrage
between
these
two
exchanges,
they
were
basically
getting
50%
of
that,
because
a
lot
of
that
was
flowing
through
them.
B
C
Constant
but
yeah,
that's
the
right
term,
fighting
that
uphill
battle
of
being
a
part
of
the
community
when
it
first
kind
of
got,
started
and
understanding
what
yo
sio
was
capable
of
from
the
beginning
to
walking
walking
EOS
up
the
population
scale
with
everybody
speculating
on
it
was
a
challenge
because
you
had
everybody
kind
of
throwing
stuff
and
you're
facing.
This
is
a
scam.
Mrs.
Kim
and
I
mean
I
think
we're
all
human.
We
can
only
you
know,
stay
so
strong,
sometimes
that
sometimes
it
starts
to
get
to
you.
C
It
becomes
really
frustrating
to
keep
defending
this
thing
and
this
technology
that
you're
not
getting
paid
to
defend
you're,
not
you,
know,
you're
not
getting
paid
to
promote.
At
this
point,
I
was
like
I
said:
I
was
just
an
e
OS
fan,
so
I
feel
for
everybody.
That's
been
with
us
since
the
beginning,
because
we've
had
she
combat
a
whole
lot
of
blood
and
a
whole
lot
of
nonsense.
And
that's
what
I
remember
you
know.
C
A
D
A
E
B
A
B
Basically,
you
know,
after
block
one
locked
up
those
u.s.
tokens
that
they
were
selling
now
they're
worthless.
Now,
they're
locked,
you
literally
can't
transfer
them
on
your
aetherium
account
like
they
were
locked.
If
I
tried
to
send
them
to
you,
Zack
I
would
get
a
transaction
error
and
I
wouldn't
be
able
to.
So
that's
where
a
lot
of
this
fun
came
from
initially.
B
But
from
that
point
it
was
up
to
you,
know
the
community
and
actually
one
anonymous
appointed
block
producer
to
actually
launch
the
chain
and
honor
that
snapshot,
and
then,
after
that,
ABP
launched
the
chain,
a
bunch
of
people
sort
of
hopped
in
after
that.
But
what
was
interesting
was
it
wasn't
just
a
matter
of
launching
the
chain
and
throughout
launching
the
chain.
We
had
all
these
go
and
no
go
votes
were
all
the
potential
bps,
including
ourselves,
got
together
in
basically
took
a
vote.
B
You
know,
a
go
vote
would
mean
hey
we're
gonna
launch
this
thing
on
X
date,
a
no-go
ment
know
we
need
to
fix
some
bugs
or
we
need
to
do
more
security
testing.
We
need
to
do
XYZ
before
we
actually
get
in
and
launch
this
thing
and
for
awhile
I
think
it
was
for
I
want
to
say.
Maybe
a
couple
weeks
we
kept
hitting
no-go
votes
and
I
got
to
the
point.
We
were
talking
about
earlier
Zack,
where
it
there
were
bp's,
but
we're
basically
being
threatened
with.
B
A
E
A
Because
you
have
to
register
your
wallet
in
order
to
be
part
of
the
snapshot
to
get
your
Yeo's
tokens
and
then
we
as
I
guess
the
voices
of
the
community
we're
encouraging
everyone
to
put
your
tokens
in
a
private
wallet.
That
way
if
multiple
chains
happen
to
launch
or
if
there's
air
drops,
you'll
you'll
be
entitled
to
all
of
them,
but
a
lot
of
people
left
them
on
the
exchanges.
A
So,
basically,
once
the
etherium
tokens
were
locked,
if
you
had
your
ERC
20
tokens
in
your
metamath
wallet,
they
were
just
locked,
so
people
were
panicking,
I
think
price
was
but
I,
don't
know
what
volatility
was
doing
at
this
time,
but
yeah
I'm
sure
is
up.
I'm
sure
was
down.
That's
always
gonna
be
frustrating
for
someone
whenever
their
money's
all
locked
up
in
a
liquid
and
then
the
exchanges
we're
all
isolated
from
each
other,
because
there
was
no
arbitrage
because
typically
an
arbitrage.
A
You
gotta
transfer
money
back
and
forth
between
exchanges,
but
finance
was
its
own
little
sandbox
bit.
Finex
was
its
own
little
sandbox,
so
they're
still
trading
going
on,
but
those
were
the
people
that
left
and
left
their
tokens
on
the
exchange.
Instead
of
wanting
to
be
part
of
Genesis
snapshots
and
airdrops
yeah.
D
A
B
Think
at
the
honestly
in
the
last
vote,
I
think
everybody
voted
go.
Maybe
one
or
two
people
voted
no
go
but
I'm
pretty
sure
everybody
did.
But
what
was
crazy
about
this
was
that,
even
after
doing
the
go
vote
and
saying,
okay,
we're
gonna
stand
up
the
chain.
The
anonymous
you
know,
appointed
block
producer
came
in
launched
a
thing,
then
the
VP's
hopped
in
and
started
producing
blocks,
even
with
all
that
we
weren't
done
like
the
chain
was
not
usable
at
that
point,
because
we.
B
So
what
this
required
was
that
fifteen
percent-
basically
one
hundred
and
fifty
million
euros
tokens-
had
to
be
voted
towards
any
blog
producers
in
order
to
launch
the
chain,
and
it
wasn't
until
you
got
to
15%
that,
then
you
could
actually
transfer
your
tokens
and
use
it
and
launched
apps
and
do
all
these
other
things.
So
not
only
was
it
like:
okay,
hey,
you
know
how
do
I
register
my
tokens
before
then?
It
was
like
okay,
which
wallet
do
I
use
to
unlock
my
tokens
to
then
vote
them
towards
somebody.
B
How
do
I
do
any
of
this
and
that's
really
where
our
education
at
ciphered
bus
started
was?
Okay?
All
of
these
people
have
questions
about
this
new
system
because
now
you're
a
Neos.
It
seems
like.
Okay,
we
have
governance.
You
know
we
have
dabs,
you
can
plus
mark
contracts.
It
all
seems
relatively
normal,
but
before
this
thing
launched,
there
was
really
nothing
like
it,
especially
on
the
governance
side
that
had
ever
existed
in
the
crypt
of
this
base
before
so.
B
People
had
a
million
different
questions,
try
to
point
them
in
the
right
way,
but
eventually
we
got
that
50
percent
unlock
I
think
thanks
to
bit,
because
we
had
pushed
over
10%
just
with
the
community
voting
and
it
had
been
I
think
another
week
or
two.
You
know,
starting
from
June
3rd
I
want
to
say
in
one
way.
D
A
B
A
B
Then,
after
that
point
it
wasn't
like
you
could
just
transfer
your
tokens.
Everybody's
tokens
were
staked
by
default
on
the
main
app
it's
just
a
way
for
the
chain
to
launch.
So
then
people
were
like.
What
do
you
mean?
I
can't
transfer
my
tokens
now.
Why
does
it
say?
I
only
have
ten
yos
tokens
and
everybody's,
like
just
panicking
and
eventually
like
okay,
you
have
to
unstick
wait
72
hours,
then
you
can
send
your
tokens
if
you
want
and
I
think,
but
a
lot
of
confusion
around
the
main
net.
B
A
B
C
B
That
was
it
and
at
that
point
I
had
no
idea
who
great
mass
was
so
I
was
it's
it's
a
wallet
that
I
love
to
use
now
and
I
recommend.
But
at
that
point
I
was
like
who
are
these
gray
mass
people
like
this
could
just
be
a
scam,
they're
collecting
people's
private
keys
like
whoa
whoa
like
we
need
to
do
more
research,
but
they
were
really
the
only
place
to
put
your
tokens.
There
was
no
trust
in
her
wallet
solution,
so
I
think
right
around.
B
That
point
is
when
we
came
out
with
our
hundred
thousand
dollar
Hardware
wallet
bounty
to
get
it
out
on
ledger,
inch
rise
or
ledger
has
obviously
been
been
filled,
is
now
feature
complete.
You
can
use
it
with
any
DAP
with
any
sir.
You
want
online,
especially
through
scatter,
and
then
treasure
should
come
out
soon.
We
got
a
submission,
we're
waiting
on
treasure
to
approve
it,
but
none
of
that
infrastructure
was
in
place
when
the
chain
launched
I
mean
it
very,
very
difficult
for
users
to
trust
any
kind
of
wallet.
I.
B
Think
we've
gotten
past
that
now
you
know,
Dan
has
even
looked
at
the
grimmest
wallet
and
sort
of
recommended
it
at
a
certain
point,
but
it
was
wild
in
the
early
days.
I
mean
nobody
really
knew.
You
know
what
was
trustworthy.
What
was
and
what
should
I
do
here?
Why
are
my
token
stake?
There
were
just
so
many
questions
and
to
your
point
about
you
know
all
these
people
being
unorganized,
especially
between
the
East
and
the
West.
B
There
was
a
lot
of
talk
that
almost
turned
into
fun
at
a
certain
point
about
oh,
the
Chinese
gonna
have
their
own
chain,
they're
gonna
launch
their
own
AOS
and
then
there's
gonna
be
the
rest
of
the
world
and
they're.
You
know
with
their
other
u.s.
chain,
but
the
block
producers
actually
got
together
ourselves
included
that
cypher
glass
and
we
all
signed
an
agreement
which
was
pretty
historic.
When
you
think
about
it,
we
all
signed
an
agreement
to
launch
one
es
chain,
whether
or
not
we
actually
got
elected
or
not.
B
We
weren't
going
to
go
and
fork
it
off
and
start
another
thing
like
some
people
did
with
thelos
and
some
of
these
others.
The
agreement
was
hey,
we're
all
in
this
may
net
we're
here
to
compete,
we're
here
to
get
these
votes,
whether
or
not
we
get
them
or
not.
We're
only
going
to
launch
one
chain
and
I
think
that
was
pretty
incredible.
If
that
was
pulled
off
that
now,
the
East
in
the
West
are
on
the
same
US
chain
and
it
makes
for
a
stronger
chain
and,
most
importantly,
a
stronger
community.
C
This
is
how
we're
gonna
do
business,
which
was
I.
Think
for
me,
the
proof
in
the
pudding.
That's
what
I
needed
to
see
launching
this
chain,
because
it
was
going
to
set
the
foundation
for
how
we
governed
it
from
there
on
out.
So
for
me,
the
experience
was
fantastic.
I
felt
so
honored
to
be
participating
in
the
launch
of
this
chain.
That
was
hopefully
gonna
change.
The
way
we
do
business
all
around
the
world.
You
know
it
was
chaotic.
There
was
a
lot
of.
C
A
C
That's
kind
of
the
nature
of
this
is
everybody
is
really
passionate
about
how
this
technology
is
supposed
to
work,
and
they
all
have
ideas
of
how
it's
supposed
to
work
and
they're
all
fighting
for
it.
So
I
think
that's
great
I
mean
it
really
helped
me
see
different
perspectives,
different
cultures,
what
they
think
about
business,
how
they
work,
and
it
was
the
best
team-building
experience
for
slifer
glass.
I
can
honestly
say
that,
because
we
were
having
to
take
shifts
at
that
point,
make
sure
that
somebody
was
always
in
Telegram.
B
D
A
D
D
G
A
B
I
was
crazed,
don't
waste
all
the
hash
of
that
first
block
that
we
produced
I.
Remember
James,
like
put
it
in
our
cypher
class
slack
and
we're
like.
Oh,
my
god
like
the
chain
is
live.
We
went
out
and
like
everybody
in
the
office
is
clapping,
like
all
congratulate
like
we
launched
it.
Finally,
like
you
guys
are
in
like
it
was
just.
E
C
C
Based
on
where
it
was
like,
okay,
we've
got
another
two
or
three
days
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
at
once
it
unlocks
and
we're
number
12
and
I.
Remember
everybody
in
slack
just
going
crazy,
we
were
like
we're
producing
blocks
and
oh
my
gosh.
We
were
elected
and
it
was
definitely
a
cry
moment
for
me.
It
was
one
of
those
happy
cry
moments
because.
E
C
Had
just
worked
so
hard,
if
not
just
a
cypher
glass
but
I
mean
you
really
felt
the
the
hard
work
coming
from
every
angle
of
the
community,
and
at
that
point
we
had
just
experienced
a
lot
of
frustration
and
disagreeing
with
each
other.
So
to
finally
have
this
chain
unlocked
and
to
be
elected
into
it
huge
moment
for
us
by
far
my
favorite
20:18
yeah.
A
C
A
B
B
And
know
that
all
that's
coming
I
think
I
think
my
biggest
disappointment
was
probably
EKF
because
I
think
at
the
beginning
you
know
speed
resolution
was
like.
Oh,
it's
gonna
be
amazing.
If
you
lose
your
key
like
you
have
a
way
to
get
it,
you
can.
You
can
have
a
recovery
partner
and
do
all
these
things
or
you
can
get
your
arbitration
and
over
time
we
saw
all
that
cap
was
really
this.
B
I
think
central
point
of
failure
within
the
system
that
almost
had
more
power
than
dps,
but
they
were
unelected
and
there
were
a
lot
of
conflicts
of
interest
there,
so
that
was
probably
my
biggest
disappointment,
but
on
the
flip
side,
I
think
my
biggest
surprise
was
just
the
the
popularity
of
DAPs
already
like
this
chain
has
been
live
for
about
six
months,
maybe
a
little
bit
longer
and
the
amount
of
people
that
are
using
gaps.
I
mean
we
passed
the
total
amount.
B
In
three
months
we
passed
the
amount
of
daily
active
users
of
DAPs
that
aetherium
had
and
a
theory
met
have
been
around
for
three
years
and
I
felt
like
okay.
Maybe
after
we
hit
three
years
like
we'll,
be
we'll
be
way
ahead
of
aetherium
at
that
point,
but
in
three
months
we
had
already
surpassed
them
and
I.
Think
the
only
other
thing
that
probably
surprised
me
with
the
apse
is
the
amount
of
volume
like
with
some
DAPs
like
dice
doing
a
quarter
billion
dollars
in
volume
in
one
week
on
this
chain.
B
A
C
It's
this
I
think
I
think
I
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
you
know
some
type
of
Community
Foundation
come
together
to
maybe
like
get
referendum
or
a
system
going
a
little
sooner.
I
think
the
natural
thought,
wouldn't
us
as
launch,
was
going
to
be
that
hey
the
sick
times
kind
of
complete
with
governance,
and
we
were
basically
unaware
that
we
know
we
were
the
governance.
Had
this
governance
system,
and
that
was
the
biggest
surprise
and
I
don't
want
to
call
it
a
disappointment,
but
you
know,
surprise
is
the
right.
C
Word
I
think
that,
now
that
we're
moving
forward,
we've
realized
that
all
we
had
is
a
blockchain
and
how
we
use
the
blockchain
is
completely
up
to
us
and
that's
that's
the
beauty
of
it.
I
mean
that's
kind
of
the
gift
of
Eos
IO
is
that
we
get
to
take
this
really
cool
technology.
That
has
a
built-in
governance.
You
know
deep,
deep
boss
and
you
know
divide
it
up
and
and
make
it
work.
The
way
we
see
fit
or
the
community
sees
fit.
Rather
so
that's
been.
C
The
coolest
part
of
this
ride
is
watching
the
community.
Take
us
and
make
it
their
own,
because
it
really
is
the
communities
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Block
producers
can
suggest
all
they
want
eke
a
for
any
other
central
point
of
governance
can
suggest
all
they
watch,
but
it
really
is
the
token
holders
that
have
the
power,
so
I'm
loving,
seeing
this
true
decentralized
chain
grow
in
that
fashion,
where
the
community
takes
it
does
what
they
think
is
right
with
it,
and
if
everybody
wants
to
get
behind
it,
it
works.
D
A
Rather
than
just
stating
my
opinion
on
I
think
I'm
just
gonna
bring
up
some
like
highlights
that
I
remember
and
we
can
just
kind
of
give
commentary
on
it.
So
do
you
guys
remember
when
the
yeah
right
after
the
main
that
launched
when
the
token
price
was
still
relative?
It
was
really
healthy
compared
to
today,
everyone's
like
these
block,
producers
are
making
millions
of
dollars
per
yeah.
B
B
Was
no
there
was.
It
was
like
a
maybe
a
24-hour
period,
where
the
number
one
block
producer
made
$10,000
in
one
day
and
people
then
for
the
longest
time
after
that,
even
still
today,
they're,
like
all
these
people,
make
a
10
grand
a
day
every
single
day,
all
of
them.
When
you
know
the
price
difference
between
the
number
one
BP
in
the
number
22
BP
is
the
number
22
is
making
less
than
half
of
what
number
one
is
making,
so
they
weren't
making
10
grand
then,
but
especially
now
at
a
$2,
something
token
price.
B
B
B
A
G
A
Lot
of
pretty
much
every
block
Bruce
is
probably
operating
at
some
sort
of
a
loss
right
now,
with
the
long-term
expectations
of
things
will
turn
around
and
then
once
the
token
price
goes
up
again.
If
anyone
starts
complaining
about
everyone
getting
paid
too
much
well
cover
those
losses
from
from
the
couple
months
or
even.
D
C
It
is
kind
of
cool
to
see
that
block
producers
kind
of
had
to
prove
themselves
through
this
bear
market
like
I,
think
it's
it's
nice
to
see
the
markets
kind
of
stuff
cleaning
them.
You
know
cleaning
themselves
and
and
pushing
out
people
that
you
know
really
can't
fund
a
giant
bar
cruiser
can't
be
can't
manage
their
money
properly.
It's
honestly
something
that
you
have
to
be
very,
very
stringent
about
when
you're
a
block
producer
and
the
way
that
this
market
has
worked
so
far.
C
I
personally
think
is
in
our
favor,
because
now
that
2019
is
coming
in
and
the
pot
what
I
think
the
price
will
go
up.
It's
going
to
be
interesting
to
see
how
block
producers
re-implement
their
finances
and
reorganize
their
finances,
because
we've
learned
so
much
in
2018
that
we
are
dependent
on
the
entire
market
and
what
it's
doing
I
think.
A
Treasury
management
is
going
to
be
huge
in
any
crypto
related
business,
where
you're
being
paid
in
crypto,
whether
you're
a
mining
farm
or
a
block
person
or
deepa
system.
Treasury
management
is
so
crucial,
but
I
think
going
into
this
a
lot
of
people
weren't
nearly
as
careful
as
they
may
have,
should
have
been
in
retrospect,
but
I
think
the
lessons
have
been
learned
and
I
think
moving
forward.
I.
Think
treasury
management's
going
to
be
a
top
priority
as
the
price
stabilizes
and
slowly
hopefully
goes
up.
A
Price
like
20,
like
I,
kept
looking
at
it
and
I
kept
thinking.
I
was
too
late
to
the
party
and
not
buying
it.
Thank
God
I
never
actually
bought
a
bunch
of
RAM
because
it
did
end
up
going
up
like
10x
than
going
down
10x,
but
that
was
insane.
You
couldn't
buy
rim
account.
There
is
controversy
over
accounts
being
too
expensive
and
nobody
having
any
RAM
and
then
I.
B
C
You
know
make
the
difference
in
in
RAM,
pricing
things
like
wrecks
and
and
Leasing
models
and
and
everything
that's
being
built
in
now,
I
wish
we
had
had
from
the
get-go,
but,
like
I
said
you
can't
have
those
things
on
a
branding
chain,
so
I'm
glad
that
the
community
is
stuck
with
us
kind
of
through
all
these
ups
and
downs
and
high
ram
prices
and
low
ram
prices
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
much
stable,
a
much
more
stable
Ram
market
in
2019.
That's.
D
A
All
of
the
FUD
all
of
the
controversies,
all
of
the
hiccups
with
the
RAM
market,
the
cpu
congestion,
we're
still
dealing
with
we,
the
the
VP,
is
being
paid
too
much
or
too
little
like
we
keep
running
into
these
issues
and
then
we
we
come
together
as
a
decentralized
communal
community
of
individuals.
We
come
together
and
try
to
solve
them
and
little
by
little
we
solve
a
problem.
Then
there's
another
problem.
We
solve
that
problem,
there's
another
problem
and
this
is
gonna,
be
a
constant
cycle
for
the
foreseeable
future
for
years
to
come.
A
Chain
in
existence,
because
it's
been
killed,
hundreds
of
times
been
left
for
dead,
it
dies,
it
comes
back.
You
can't
kill
it.
The
longer
that
goes
on
NGOs,
the
the
stronger
the
chain
is
going
to
be
the
more
onstop
of.
What's
going
to
be
the
more
comp
people
are
going
to
be
to
build
on
it
because
they
know
it's
going
to
be
here
in
last
and
and
be
flexible
to
solve
future
problems.
Yet.
B
I
think,
even
though
we
didn't
get
you
know
important
governance
things
like
referendum
this
year.
Obviously
we
got
referendum
to
the
point
where
it's
on
the
main
that
it's
being
pest
on
the
main
end
and
and
should
be
live
really
really
early
in
2019,
even
though
we
didn't
get
that
I.
Think
if
you
look
back
on
all
the
different
proposals
like
Ram,
for
example,
we're
now
a
small
amount
of
ram
gets
added
to
the
ram
pool
every
single
block,
every
half
second,
which
basically
doubles
the
ram
supply
every
year.
B
It
adds
another
sixty
four
gigs,
but
that
proposal
was
implemented
by
a
VP
vote
where
basically,
somebody
proposed
this
here's
the
code
and
then
15
of
the
top
21
voted
to
approve
it
and
within
a
day
boom
that
upgrade
was
live
on
the
maintenance.
We
saw
the
same
thing
with
CPU,
where
CPUs
been
increased
by
six
hundred
percent
or
more
since
the
maenette
launched
and
every
time
it
was
increased.
It
was
a
BP
vote
of
saying:
hey
the
community
wants
this:
let's
go
ahead
and
vote
it
in
and
boom.
B
As
soon
as
it's
voted
in
within
a
day,
it's
already
approved,
and
if
you
look
at
any
other
blockchain,
that's
never
happened.
There's
never
been
a
chain.
That's
had
the
governance
structure
in
place
to
actually
implement
a
fixed
increase
CPU
to
decrease
the
price
of
RAM
over
time
with
a
simple
vote
and
boom.
Have
it
implemented
right
away
so
I
think
that
speaks
not
only
to
the
governance
structure
and
sort
of
the
the
overall.
B
D
A
C
That's
like
avoided
work
after
work
after
work,
and
so
that
really
shows
you,
the
power
of
you,
know
this
flexible
blockchain
that
that
is
self-governing.
That's
awesome,
I
mean
everybody.
This
year
is
still
I,
think
we're
still
seeing
the
hype
of
FUD
cycle.
I.
Think
we're
still
gonna
see
that
through
2019,
but
it's
awesome
because
every
day
that
this
chain
stays
up
is
just
one
more
day
that
you
know
we
have
its
proof
like
hey.
C
This
works
this
this
model
works
it's
a
whole
new
business
model,
not
just
for
you
know,
technology
companies,
but
companies
in
general,
and
that
it's
really
starting
to
to
take
off
I.
Think
and
I
can't
wait
to
see
how
people
you
know,
use
this
business
model
in
2019,
because
I
think
it's
gonna
branch
out
of
gaming
and
resource
staffs
I
think
we're
gonna
start
to
see
real
businesses
built
on
top
of
this
stuff
because
they
know
it.
You
know
I,
don't
have
to
worry
about
a
fork
every
time
something
needs
change
in
the
code.
C
A
What
we
saw
in
2018
was
the
initiation
or
introduction
of
a
lot
of
really
big
ideas
and
I.
Think
2019
is
going
to
be
the
year
that
we
see
all
of
these
ideas
fully
bloom
and
I.
Think
ears.
Vc
was
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
blaah
initiatives
that
block
one
set
set
out
for
2018,
so
they
first
announced
it
at
that
hackathon
I
mentioned
on
January
13th.
They
announced
tomorrow
tomorrow,
BC
and
Galaxy
digital
a
week
later,
and
then
we
saw
fin
lab
AG
e
of
global
svk
crypto.
A
It
was
like
every
month,
another
es
VC
would
come
out
and
we
were
promised
that
a
billion
dollars
of
capital
was
going
to
be
deployed
into
IO
snaps.
So
what?
What
were
your
initial
reactions
whenever
that
announcement
was
made
that
they
were
gonna
commit
because
we
talked
about
the
FUD?
The
fun
at
the
time
was
that
they're
collecting
way
too
much
money,
and
why
do
they
need
to?
Why
do
they
need
wise
block?
A
One
need
billions
of
dollars,
because
even
at
that
time
they
probably
had
one
and
a
half
two
billion
dollars
whenever
they
made
that
commitment
of
1
billion.
What
were
you
guys
initial
reactions
to
that,
because
I
kind
of
shut
some
of
the
foot
up?
It's
like
yeah,
we
did
collect
a
lot
of
this
money.
We
probably
didn't
need
it
all
for
ourselves.
So
here's
what
we're
gonna
do
to
grow
this
ecosystem.
What
were
your
initial
reactions
to
that?
So.
C
I
was
really
happy
to
see
the
you
know,
take
a
war
chest
of
that
size
and
parcel
it
out
to
to
be
had
among
you
know,
DAPs
that
was
legitimacy
on
top
of
the
project.
I
think
you
know
that
helped
combat
the
flood
really
well
and
I
think
that
in
2018
I
was
a
little
disappointed
to
not
see
so
many
taps
get
funded.
But
I
also
think
that
that
shows
were
straight
from
the
VCS,
which
is
a
good
thing.
C
You
know
they're
they're
only
willing
to
put
their
money
where
they
think
something's
going
to
work
and
she'd
apps
that
will
act.
We
bring
value
into
the
ecosystem
and
I
really
appreciate
that,
like
I
said,
I
would
love
to
seem
work
on
the
adapts,
I
would
love
to
see
taps
coming
out
of
you
know
everywhere,
but
that's
just
not
that's
not
realistic.
When
you're
trying
to
grow
a
technology
company
for
the
next
ten
years,
instead
of
go
out
of
business
and
yeah.
A
D
A
Projects,
Billy
and
I
could
do
that.
I
agree
that
I
expected
more
funding
in
2018,
but
I
think
2019,
we're
gonna,
see
funding
go
out
at
an
accelerated
pace
because
this
deal
flow
takes
takes
a
while
there's
there's
a
ton
of
due
diligence
and
they're
being
careful.
So
one
of
the
most
respectable
things
like
Adriana
said
is
they're,
being
very
careful
and
they're,
mostly
looking
to
invest
in
companies
where
they
think
they
could
eventually
turn
a
profit,
because
that
is
the
end
goal
of
a
VCS.
You
want
to
turn
a
profit
or
else
you're.
A
B
A
Stuff
for
humanity,
good
ideas,
things
that
sound
cool,
but
it's
not
a
business
model
and
and
I
think
looking
at
what
you
as
VC
is
doing,
is
they're
trying
to
build
sustainable
business
models,
because
otherwise,
what
are
you
doing
it
for
it?
You're
gonna
eventually
always
run
out
of
money.
Unless
the
market
goes
up
forever
right,
it
never
always
will
yeah.
C
I
mean
it's
nice
when
the
causes
are
great.
You
know
it's
nice
when,
when
a
da
or
project
is
helping
the
environment
or
decentralizing,
something
that
really
needs
to
be
decentralized
or
you
know
one
of
the
many
a
thousand
reasons
you
could
do
a
doubt
for
it.
But
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
all
here
to
make
money
and
we're
all
here
to
make
sure
that
our
investments
are
sound
while
doing
something
good
for
the
world.
C
So
it's
a
it's
a
two-part
recipe
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
the
VCS
are
taking
this
very
seriously
and,
like
I,
said
executing
restraint
rather
than
just
throwing
money
out
everywhere,
like
consensus
or
some
of
these
other
chains
that
I
think
are
wasting
their
money.
You
know
with
good
ideas,
but
bad
business
practices
sort.
A
B
Definitely
excited
about
mythical
games
and
I
know
they
haven't
come
out
with
anything.
If
I
did
to
pick
one
that's
actually
launched,
it
would
probably
be
ever
a
pedia
that
decentralized,
Wikipedia
and
now
they're
building
all
of
these
other
DAPs
on
top
of
that
same
IQ
token,
but
the
ones
that
been
announced,
but
not
yet
released,
mythical
games
for
sure,
because
not
just
the
first
game
Blancos,
but
all
these
other
game
developers
that
they're
working
with
to
sort
of
you
know
add
a
player
created
economy
to
their
game.
B
I
think
are
just
gonna,
be
incredible
and
have
the
potential
to
disrupt
major
players
in
the
space
like
what
is
it
EA
that
that
owns
fortnight?
That
makes
you
know
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
off
of
skins.
All
of
that
can
be
put
on
a
blockchain
owned
or
even
created
by
the
players,
and
then
that
profit
is
suddenly
redistributed
to
the
people
actually
playing
the
game
versus
the
one
company
that
you
know
made
it
and
is
now
monopolizing
the
skin
industry
I.
C
A
Hung
up
between
high
fidelity
and
mythical
games,
but
I
guess
I'll
lean
towards
mythical
games
just
because
from
what
I
understand,
they're
gonna
work
with
multiple
independent
game
studios
we'll
see.
Multiple
games
come
out
using
blockchain
for
digital
asset
transfers,
whereas
high
fidelity
there
might
be
multiple
like
I,
guess,
universes
within
the
game.
But
it's
it's
just
I
guess
not
my
cup
of
tea,
of
like
living
a
second
life
in
a
virtual
world,
but
I
do
write
the
promise
of
and
I
think
it
could
be
huge
because
I
know
there's
a
market
for
that.
A
But
as
far
as
things
I
might
actually
play
and
get
into
I'll
definitely
be
playing.
Blanka's
I've
been
collecting
my
blankest
airdrops
that
they've
been
announcing
through
their
email
campaigns.
I
highly
suggest
anyone
listening
to
go
to
mythical
games
or
Blanco
s--
and
sign
up
for
that
email
list,
because
they've
been
air-dropping
Blancos
and
go
in
their
twitter
and
they're
giving
so
I
guess
moving
on
so
that
we
got
the
esv
see
there
they're
the
eos
VCS
are
going
to
be
investing
in
decentralized
applications.
A
D
A
B
This
was
incredible
to
me
and
this.
This
is
what
inspired
me
to
read:
Peter
Thiel's
book
cause
you
were
to
one.
If
you
haven't
read
it
highly
recommend
it
sort
of
makes
sense
after
reading
that
why
he
invested
in
block
one
and
what
he
sees
in
them.
But
basically
this
was
a
strategic
round.
You
know
block
one
raised
almost
five
billion
dollars.
They
don't
need
any
extra
money
at
this
point,
especially
since
they've
had
good
treasury
management
they've
been
selling
it
out.
B
They
have
those
billions,
it's
not
like,
they
had
it
in
even
a
thousand
and
it
all
went
down.
They
got
out
of
that,
but
Peter
teal
coming
in
and
basically
saying
hey.
This
is
a
company
with
his
track
record,
looking
at
Facebook
and
starting
PayPal,
and
all
these
other
companies
like
SpaceX
and
Tesla
that
he
invested
in
this
is
a
company
that
he
thinks
is
gonna
make
a
you
know,
change
on
a
similar
scale,
as
those
companies
he's
been
involved
in
in
the
past
and
with
Brendan
bloomer.
In
a
recent
interview,
saying
things
like
in.
D
F
We
can't
confirm
that
we
did
a
strategic
round
a
little
bit
a
couple
months
ago,
and
you
know
these.
This
technology
is
really
a
platform
that
allows
us
to
start
to
disrupt
some
of
the
large
centralized
technology
platforms
today,
and
these
are
leaders
in
that
space
and
our
next
plans
will
make
it
in
terms
of
what
we
build
on
the
application.
Ourself
it'll
become
a
little
more
apparent
why
we
chose
the
investors
that
we
have
okay.
B
C
I
mean
Mike
Novogratz
has
been
screaming
about
Chios
for
a
while
now,
so
it's
always
nice
when
these
bigger
names
come
in
enjoying
the
ecosystem
and
when
I
heard
Peter
deal
is
coming
on.
That
was
a
that
was
a
big
moment
for
us,
I
think,
but
just
as
Rob
mentioned
him,
having
the
foresight
into
things
like
Facebook
and
other
you
know,
disruptive
technologies
shows
that
he
finds
promise
in
a
OS
and
that's
what
we've
all
been
shouting
from
the
rooftops
to
begin
with.
So
it's
nice
confirmation,
yeah.
B
B
G
A
Time
we've
talked
about
this
Rob
we're
always
talking
about
Peter
Thiel
and
we
always
kind
of
brush
over
bit
main
because
that
still
hasn't
really
made
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
But
recently
he
owes
force
has
been
getting
kind
of
like
talked
about
more
than
it
ever
has
been
before
and
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
it,
because
I'm
I
guess
not
really
interested.
A
B
Survey
well,
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Considering
that
that
circle,
who
know
ins,
baloney
acts
listed
es
on
their
us-based
exchange
so
that
that
could
have
been
from
the
domain
relationship.
Obviously,
bit
name
has
a
bit
of
a
cloud
over
right
now,
with
you
know,
over
investing
in
Bitcoin
cash
and
then
misleading
investors
with
their
IPO
laying
off
people.
B
Jihan
wu
is
one
of
the
most
well-connected
people
in
crypto,
so
whether
it's
that
circle
polonius
listing
or
other
things
that
will
happen
in
the
future,
I'm
sure
he'll
still
add
a
ton
of
value
to
this
investment,
but,
from
my
perspective,
in
my
opinion,
he's
not
quite
on
the
level
of
a
Peter
Thiel
who's.
This
you
know
world-class
well-known
VC
who's
invested
in
the
most
important
products
and
services
that
have
sort
of
shaped
the
last
10
years
of
our
lives
and.
C
That
being
said,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
hard
harder
to
be
a
large
crypto
company
and
not
be
involved
with
us,
as
time
goes
on.
So
I
think
that
there's
a
difference
between
when
you're
talking
about
bitman
being
you
know,
this
huge
conglomerate
and
crypto
I
think
that
they
have
to
start
getting
their
beak
wet
with
EOS
if
they
want
to
stay
relevant
moving
forward.
Yeah.
B
It's
almost
like
a
hedge
for
them.
You
know
they're
sowing
the
proof
of
work
and
mining
and
all
these
things
for
them
to
come
to
depose,
and
it
must
directly
in
block
one
to
get
exposure
to
all
the
ESI.
Oh
chains.
Really
it
does
make
a
lot
of
sense
from
a
business
standpoint.
Maybe
maybe,
ironically,
D
possible
end
up
saving,
but
maybe
over
invested
in
Drupal
work
we'll
see,
but.
A
B
C
And
the
hardware
wallet
I
think
that
from
being
one
I'm
looking
for
Rex
and
the
harder
wallet,
I
think
that
that's
gonna
really
help
push
the
push
the
community
forward.
I
think
Rex
is
going
to
offer
this
whole
new
solution
to
voting
and
making
sure
that
holding
EOS
tokens
is
worth
your
time
and
you
know
not
consistently
trading
on
them
is,
is
you
know
the
goal
we
want
to?
We
want
people
to
hold
those
EOS,
though,
to
use
them
to
vote
for
the
system
and
use
them
to
stake
their
CPU
to
Dobbs.
A
One
of
the
other
reasons
I'm
excited
for
the
Rex.
Is
we
mentioned
it
earlier?
These
dividend-paying
tokens,
so
Rex
tokens
are
going
to
be
paying
dividends
for
for
leasing
out
your
transaction
volume.
So
it's
just
one
more
use
case
on
EOS
I/o
of
a
way
to
earn
a
passive
income
in
the
form
of
dividends.
I
think
that
was
one
of
my
biggest
surprises
was
and-
and
it
was
a
surprise
mostly
because
of
the
regulation-
one
certainty
we
climate
we
sit
in.
A
Is
you
just
don't
expect
a
dividend
paying
token,
because
you
know
the
SEC
could
come
in
and
shut
it
down
at
any
point,
but
because
these
organizations
are
so
decentralized
like
the
EOS
main
net,
the
Rex
is
technically
paying
a
dividend,
but
nobody
I,
don't
think
anyone's
going
to
come
out
and
say
that
it's
a
security
and
if
they
did,
who
would
they
go
after
because
my
block
one
tokens
are
still
on
aetherium
right
now,
and
that
was
my
response.
I
guess
to
some
of
the
FUD
we
saw
recently
to
is
Charles
Hoskinson
coming
out.
E
A
B
I
think
it's
it's
also
kind
of
funny
when
people
say
oh
I
heard
the
the
SEC
from
our
from
a
friend
they're
investigating
block
1.
If
anybody
in
the
world
raises
almost
5
billion
dollars,
you
can
bet
that
the
SEC
and
every
other
government
organization
that
deals
with
this
stuff
in
the
world
is
looking
at
them
going.
Ok,
let's
just
make
sure
everything
is
legit,
so
I
expect
that
I
expect
something
like
that
to
happen.
B
C
C
A
B
You
look
at
their
their
recent
head
of
legal
counsel
who
joined
in
early
June,
I
believe
right
before
the
main
net
launcher.
He
I
think
was
on
a
he
brand,
a
weekly
podcast
with
one
of
the
former
chairs
of
the
SEC.
So
it's
these
people
are
incredibly
well-connected.
Nobody
goes
out
and
raises
this
much
money
and
doesn't
have
a
strong
legal
plan
with
serious
lawyers
that
are
ready
to
back
this
and
say
no.
This
is
why
we
believe
this
raise
was
oh,
okay
and
legal
within
you
know
all
of
these
different
jurisdictions.
B
B
But
in
addition
to
that
you
know
in
a
couple
interviews,
Brendan
bloomer
has
mentioned
our
initial
contribution
was
a
billion
dollars,
but
we're
not
limiting
it
to
that
in
the
future,
and
he
didn't
mention
you
know
they
don't
want
to
over
capitalized
these
projects
early.
But
I
would
bet
that
once
you
know,
a
significant
portion
of
this
billion
is
dolled
out.
B
We
have
you
know
several
hundred
apps
funded
that
maybe
block
one
comes
out
and
says:
hey,
we
got
another
billion
for
you
and
they
push
that
out
to
other
VCS
or
push
it
out
in
some
other
way
to
really
make
ESI
o
the
most
adopted.
Blockchain
software
in
the
world,
as
it
already
is
today,
but
you
know
keeping
that
that
sort
of
title
belt
going
forward.
A
Before
we
started,
recording
I
said,
I
was
going
to
look
for
words
most
to
steam,
2.0
or
whatever
yeah
I'm
going
to
be
called,
and
the
main
reason
behind
that
is
just
because
I've
I've
become
a
content
creator
over
the
last
year.
So
I'm
really
excited
to
have
a
platform
on
a
social
platform.
On
top
of
the
platform
that
we
talk
about
every
day,
so
I'm
excited
to
actually
use
steam,
2.0
and
I'm
excited
if
it's
everything
it
it
can't
be.
A
I
want
to
have
a
DAP
that
my
parent
and
my
parents
are
brother,
grandparents
could
use
and
it
might
I
hope
it's
gonna
be
there
and
it
seems
like
block
ones
waiting
until
everything's
like
feature
complete
and
completely
polished
before
they
release
it.
That
seems
to
be
the
trend.
That's
the
only
reason
we
haven't
seen
the
block
one
wallet
yet
I
think
Dan
Kammen
robbed,
didn't
someone
buys.
A
B
So
I
spoke
to
Greg
at
the
hackathon,
and
their
initial
reasoning
was
basically
hey.
You
know
we're
gonna
come
out
with
an
b.p,
a
Minimum,
Viable
Product
read
me
at
the
wallet
out
there
and
then
we'll
iterate
on
it
over
time,
but
what
they
saw
was
that
there
are
already
other
plaint.
You
have
plenty
of
other
community
wallets
like
us
links
that
are
super
easy
and
sort
of
MVPs
that
then
have
tap
stores
and
other
things
built
on
top
of
it.
B
B
A
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
I've
seen
anything
else
talking
about
this,
but
do
you
guys?
Did
you
see
the
maker
dow
investment
earlier
this
year,
where
Anderson
Horowitz
invested
now
a
million
dollars
into
tokens
from
the
founding
team
at
a
discount
I
could
see
block
1
as
their
100
million
tokens
slowly
get
given
to
them
and
they
have
access
to
them
to
distribute
them
in
any
way
that
they
want.
A
Next
June
so
yeah
they
could
stake
them
because
we
could
expect
them
to
build
some
of
the
most
killer
DAPs
on
iou's,
so
they're
gonna
need
to
stake
them
for
bandwidth,
and
things
like
that,
but
I
could
also
see
them
distributing
them
in
some
sort
of
strategic
partnerships
in
the
same
way
that
maker
doubt
did
and
for
those
listening
who
aren't
familiar.
Just
look
up
the
interesting
horowitz
maker,
dow
investment
that
happened
a
month
two
months
three
months
ago
and
I
could
see
stuff
like
that
happening.
But
I
don't
know
if.
A
Prediction
where
down
the
line
but
I
would
because
it's
getting
skin
in
the
game
at
a
below
market
price,
so
people
are
gonna
complain
about
that.
They
complained
about
makers.
All
the
token
orders
of
maker
Dow
complained
about
it
too,
but
you
can't
complain
about
getting
a
strategic
partner
like
Anderson
Horowitz.
You
want
them
to
have
skin
in
the
game
and
not
worry
about
market
volatility
or
anything
like
that,
because
it
gives
them
some
downside
where
they're
that
they're
still
ahead
of
even
if
the
price
would
go
down
so.
B
I
think
it's
an
interesting.
It's
an
interesting
prediction:
it's
totally
possible
and
it
could
happen.
I
would
think
from
their
perspective.
They
would
want
to
keep
all
that
for
their
first
app,
so
they
can
have
that
full
ten
million
to
go
after
it
and
then
obviously
avoid
things
like.
Where
did
this?
Where
did
these
two
million
u.s.
go.
B
A
B
D
A
G
B
The
community
as
a
whole,
like
when
I,
was
when
I
got
into
Bitcoin
in
2013,
even
back
then
and
I
guess
really
more
into
2014.
There
were
debates
about
scaling
like
should
we
increase
the
block
size
like
and
that
went
on
for
years,
then,
when
it
got
the
etherium,
it
was
like.
Oh
we're,
arguing
over
the
dow
hack
now
we're
arguing
over
scalability
again
no
look.
Now
we
have
two
chains
like
em
classic
and
aetherium,
and
nothing
has
really
improved.
B
So
it's
been
honestly
a
relief
to
me
to
just
interact
with
a
community
that
is
so
forward
thinking,
that's
so
open
to
change
that
realizes.
If
we
don't
change
the
next
blockchain
platform
that
comes
out
and
does
it
better
than
us
will
replace
us
just
like
we
are
now
replacing
these
all
blockchain
platforms
that
weren't
able
to
adapt
so
I
just
got
to
say
a
huge
shot
at
the
community.
B
Everything
you've
been
doing,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
you
know,
tend
to
diminish
their
impact
in
the
community,
but
everybody
out
there
whether
you
answered
one
question
in
telegram
whether
you
posted
a
meme
and
everything
Yeo's
telegram
channel.
Whatever
you
did
in
18,
if
you
interacted
with
the
EOS
community
in
some
way.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
a
part
of
that,
because
we
could
have
done
it
without
you.
This
chain
would
have
no
value
without
you
and
all
the
DAP
developers
and
all
the
DAP
users,
so
huge.
B
C
B
C
You
know,
being
a
part
of
a
global
community
where
I
can
literally
just
plug
in
anywhere
I,
go
and
have
no
friends
and
people
to
discuss
my
passion
with
that's
life-changing.
You
know,
I'm
from
San,
Antonio,
Texas
and
I
grew
up
in
a
small
community
and
most
of
the
stuff
is
so
foreign
to
everybody.
Here
you
know,
being
a
part
of
cypher
glass
and
being
a
part
of
the
US
community
gave
me
the
opportunity
to
spread
my
wings
and
you
know,
go
international
and
visit
all
these
hackathons
and
you
know
events
and
and
gos
meetups.
C
It's
been
so
cool.
You
know
shout-out
to
eus
Costa
Rica,
who,
let
me
come
down
to
Costa,
Rica
and
crash
at
their
place
and
experience
the
EOS
surf
surf
program
and
I.
That
was
the
first
time
I
had
ever
really
looked
at
the
code
and
I
learned
how
to
program
a
smart
contract,
so
yeah
yeah,
I'm
I'm,
enjoying
the
learning
experience.
So
thank
you.
So
much
to
every
community
member,
because
every
one
of
you
that
messages
me
in
telegram
or
tweets
at
me
or
send
cipher
glass,
the
hello
and
thank
you.
A
Guess
I
would
like
to
thank
the
community
but
I
think
I
do
thank
the
community
but
I
think
as
covered
all
the
bases
there.
I
would
like
to
take
the
time
to
thank
Daniel
Larimer,
because
throughout
this
entire
year
of
doing
this,
show
I
don't
think
anyone's,
followed
him
more
closely
than
I
have
and
dug
into
victory.
A
Dissected
everything
he
said
in
telegram
on
Twitter
and,
like
he's
just
a
really
interesting
person,
because
he's
got
a
lot
of
big
ideas.
He
seems
like
a
really
smart
guy,
but
some
of
my
favorite
moments
in
2018
was
sharing
the
Dan
isms
on
the
show
of
things
that
Dan
has
said
and
some
of
my
favorite
ones
where,
whenever
he
was
saying
like
basically,
he
was
programming
while
like
vitalic
was
still
in
diapers,
and
that.
C
A
A
And
then
he
says
well
that
year's
I/o
is
done.
I
could
build
a
steam
it
contract
in
a
week
or
two
so
I
loved
whatever
he
just
comes
in
there
and
just
like
flaunt
it
and
oh
yeah.
He
drops
bombs
and
the
other
time
going
back
to
when
he
was
kind
of
battling
not
battling
with
vitalic.
But
you
guys
remember
in
vitalic
made
that
video
where
he
made
a
joke
about
us
being
aetherium
yeah,
let's
roll
on
stage
roll
the
clip.
Oh.
D
A
A
A
C
B
B
Metallics
ever
gonna
work
at
block
one,
but
I
do
think.
He's
gonna
contribute
again
to
us
in
some
way
like
when
he
came
in
and
comment
on
the
code.
I
think
it
solved
some
pretty
big
issue.
They
were
looking
at
so
I
think
with
all
of
this
stuff,
whether
it's
IBC
inter
blockchain,
communication
or
multi-threading
or
whatever
I
would
say.
This
is
the
not
the
last
time
that
Dan
and
vitalik
work
either
in
some
way,
maybe
the
next
time
it
won't
be
as
public.
B
Maybe
they've
already
worked
together
and
we
don't
even
know
it
I,
don't
think
he'll
ever
go
to
block
one
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons,
mostly
reputational,
and
the
fact
that
he
probably
wants
to
kind
of
lead
his
own
thing,
but
I
definitely
seen
them
working
together
again
at
some
point
in
the
future.
I
hope.
C
A
B
Meeting
Dan
at
the
San
Francisco
hackathon
I,
got
to
say
Dan.
If
you
ever
watch
this
I
apologize
for
being
a
total
like
a
fangirl
I
guess,
because
I
did
not
expect
it
I
bumped
into
him
in
a
hotel
and
then
later
the
hackathon,
instead
of
like
every
other
person,
I
interacted
with
a
hackathon
I'm
talking
about
EE
OS
and
the
new
things
that
are
coming
out
and
for
some
reason,
with
Dan
I
like
didn't
I,
didn't
know
what
to
say.
Cuz
I
was
like
hyping
up
this
moment
of
meeting
him.
B
So
I
got
a
picture
with
him.
He
probably
is
like
who's.
This
guy,
like
coming
up
to
me
twice
asking
for
all
this
stuff,
but
anyway
Dan
we're
big
fans
of
whether
or
not
we
ever
meet
again.
It
was
cool
to
see
him
in
the
flesh
and
see
him
interacting
with
people
for
hours
at
the
hackathon
instead
of
just
like
popping
in
and
leaving,
he
was
he's
really
their
interactive
community,
so
just
cool
to
see.
Yeah.
C
I
saw
him
in
I,
saw
him
in
London.
I
got
to
meet
Dan
in
London,
and
it
was
really
really
awesome
same
thing
like
watching
Dan.
Do
his
thing
and
and
be
in
the
moment
with
all
of
these
DAP
developers
and
contributing
is
amazing
because
he
really
he
gets
out
of
his
own
head.
You
know
he's
not
he's
dan
to
us,
but
he's
not
van
to
himself.
C
A
One
more
Dan
quote
because
I
prepared
the
notes
with
a
whole
years
worth
of
quotes,
Rome
didn't
had
to
go
through
all
of
them,
but
the
very
first
one
I
had
for
the
year
was
on
January,
6th
and
Dan
said
you
could
lead
a
horse
to
water
education
isn't
what
most
want.
They
want
promise
of
riches,
they
want
pumping,
and
that's
true,
but
I
see
that
as
being
the
mission
of
this
podcast
Rob
I
feel
like
our
mission.
A
This
entire
time
has
been
to
educate
and
enlighten
the
greater
like
blockchain
cryptocurrency
is
community
as
to
why
we're
so
excited
about
this.
We're
not
stupid.
People
like
we
didn't
not
do
our
research.
We
know
more
about
what
is
going
on
in
the
ecosystem.
Then
most
people
we've
forgotten
more
things
than
most
people
ever
know
about
ESI,
and
we.
D
A
To
share
it
with
the
community,
so
if
education
is
not
what
the
people
want,
I
feel
like
we've
been
able
to
spin
and
twist
it
up
and
put
our
own
little
twist
on
it.
That
makes
it
enjoyable
for
people.
The
the
community
response
to
what
we've
been
doing
has
been
incredible
and
I'm,
really
looking
forward
to
2019
and
being
able
to
expand
on
the
foundation
we've
built
with
this
and
I
think.
A
B
I
think
that's
a
good
place
to
wrap
it
up.
Thank
you
so
much
whether
you
were
here
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
followed
us
through
this
crazy
journey
of
the
end
of
the
ico
and
the
maintenance
should
now
where
we
are
today
or
if
this
is
your
first
episode
and
you're
kind
of
you
know,
learning
about
all
the
stuff
that
happened
over
the
last
year.
For
the
first
time,
a
sincere
thank
you
for
sticking
along
with
us.