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Shaheen Counts (EOS Blocksmith) and Domenic Thomas (Worbli) join Zack Gall at Scaling Blockchain after the SF #EOSHackathon to discuss Worbli's launch as an EOSIO sister chain and EOS Blocksmith's challenges and goals as a block producer on multiple chains including the EOS mainnet and Worbli.
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A
A
Guys
on
the
show
we
had
an
opportunity
to
be
in
person
here.
I
thought
I'd
be
an
unique
opportunity
to
kind
of
talk
about
what
you
guys
are
doing
within
the
es
community.
So
we'll
start
with
Dominic.
So
Dominic
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
your
background
and
what
got
you
in
the
years
in
the
first
place,
yeah.
A
B
We
looked
at
everything
we
looked
at
a
hyper
ledger.
We
looked
at
court
aetherium
of
course,
looked
at
Stratus
a
little
bit
but
yeah
we,
our
CTO
Rob,
did
a
he
took
about
four
or
five
weeks
and
in
late
December,
early
January
and
heõs
was
a
clear
winner.
Our
only
concern
was,
you
know,
it
wasn't
launched
yet,
but
I
had
faith
in
danam
team
to
get
launched
in
June
and
we
knew
our
timelines.
So
now
we've
committed.
A
B
A
C
A
Have
to
tell
a
story
about
this:
okay,
so
I
knew
buddy
his
block
Smith,
because
you
guys
were
putting
some
decent
blog
articles
out
long
before
the
main
that
launched,
but
I
didn't
really
know
any
of
you
guys
individually.
Shaheen
was
in
one
of
the
telegram
channels,
and
he
said
he
was
thinking
about
starting
a
meme
contest.
I
was
like
I
love,
memes,
let's
be
friends,
so
so
we
we
started
this
like
private
channel.
It's
me
you
and
who
are
those
two
other
Neelam.
A
So
we
have
this
little
meme
channel.
We
found
out
like
we
all
have
this
love
for
memes,
which
I
don't
think
it's
crypto
specific
but
like
when
times
get
tough,
a
meme
kind
of
like
make.
It
makes
you
smile
and
the
one
day
I
was
asking
you
questions,
I,
don't
know
what
it
was
about.
I
was
like
did
you?
Did
you
tweet
about
it
yet,
or
did
you
like
launch
your
contest
and
you're?
Like
sorry,
I
was
doing
surgeries
all
day.
C
C
My
whole
life
of
13
years
of
post
high
school
makes
you
really
good
at
education,
and
so
we
wanted
to
not
only
promote
EOS,
but
we
wanted
to
kind
of
be
one
of
the
leading
block
fitters.
Just
as
far
as
education
goes,
so
we've
been
making
a
lot
of
educational
videos,
because
US
has
some
pretty
interesting
differences
and
complex
topics.
As
far
as
like
you
know,
network
resources
and
how
the
voting
structure
works.
C
A
Well,
it
was
a
blast
honestly
getting
to
meet
everyone
in
persons
just
been
awesome,
so
I
kind,
I
kind
of
got
to
get
to
back
to
where
we
first
get
into
the
sister
chain
thing
and
then
having
your
own
unique
set
of
block
producers.
So
the
regulation
will
not
risk
but
regulation.
The
need
for
kyc
was
kind
of
the
main
driver
to
have
to
launch
your
own
chain
so
with
your
own
chain.
You
obviously
need
block
producers
to
run
it.
What
what
criteria
did
you
set
to
determine
your
group
of
block
fish?
B
So
we
have
our
21
active
and
12
backups.
At
this
point,
we're
calling
reserve
block
producers
it's
a
little
different.
Their
duties
for
our
chain
are
basically
kind
of
like
Ghana
on
call.
You
know
at
this
point,
but
yeah.
The
major
thing
was
just
relationships
right
like
I.
Keep,
though
sorry
I,
don't
know
where
to
look,
as
you
know,
and
as
a
start-up
chain
and
the
sister
chain,
it's
you
know,
I
think
we
were
talking
before
this,
that
we
think
this
will
be
a
common
practice
in
the
future.
B
But
it
certainly
wasn't
ten
months
ago
when
we
were
starting
to,
you,
know,
built
the
project
and
build
the
relationships,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
criteria
was
around
teams.
That
believed
in
what
we
were
doing
that
were
interested
in
taking
a
little
bit
of
a
risk
with
us.
You
know
we're
not
traded
on
exchanges
right
now,
I'm,
so
the
time
and
energy
and
effort
that's
gone
in
has
had
to
be
an
investment,
the
team's
resources
in
time.
B
But
the
major
thing
is
that,
first
of
all,
is
it
a
professional
organization
that
we
think
is
going
to
be
around
because
there's
business
risk?
We
can't
have
block
producers
just
filtering
in
and
out
all
the
time
that
wouldn't
look
very
good
for
us
with
compliance
bodies.
They
had
to
be
willing
to
go
through
financial
auditing.
You
have
to
be
willing
to
go
through
a
corporate
AML
kyc,
so
those
were
big
criteria
so.
A
C
C
A
C
C
A
B
Have
similar
backgrounds
so
I
ran
an
integrative
medical
clinic
just
like
physicians
and
doctors
in
multiple
locations
and
I
got
my
MBA
at
Hopkins
Baltimore
area
where
I
live
so
yeah
I
just
always
been
interested
in
tech
and
decided
to
sell
my
practice
and
make
a
career
change.
Sorry,
are
you
also
doctor?
No
okay.
A
A
Highly
intelligent
person,
I'm
sure,
I,
guess
on
which
day
of
the
week
died,
I
think
everyone
in
the
u.s.
faces
a
genius
because
they
all
agree
with
me
on
a
thing
there.
You
go
right.
So
did
you
what
were
the
biggest
like
hurdles
and
difficulties
with
launching
the
sister
chain
because
it
cutting
off
the
rocky
start?
I
know
when
Taylor's
first
announced
their.
Therefore
it
was
kind
of
like
not
taking
well
by
the
community,
and
even
worse,
was
I
think
when
wax
even
prior
to
Taylor
announced
what
they
were
doing.
A
So
whenever
you
guys
first
announced
they're
still
like
sort
of
negative
perception,
not,
but
not
them
not
by
the
majority,
but
by
a
subset
of
the
community
that
they
weren't
sure
about
a
sister
chain,
because
I
think
it
just
comes
down
to
token
bite.
People
don't
want
to
take
value
away
from
their
Lea's
main
that
token
so
like.
How
did
you
address
that?
And
what
were
your
thoughts
on
that
yeah.
B
A
Think
the
narrative
chances
greatly
so
prior
to
the
main
that
I
was
under
it
may
have
been
said
before,
but
it
wasn't
as
noticeable
that
there
were
going
to
be
thousands
of
chains
yeah.
If
you
listen
to
the
way
Brendon
bloomer
speaks
and
Dan
has
spoken
recently
within
the
last
month
or
two.
It
seems
like
the
the
the
verbage
that
they
use
has
changed
and
it
sounds
like
it's
just
gonna
be
thousands
of
chains
and
each
application
might
have
its
own
chain
and
we're
seeing
this
resource
capacity
getting
hit.
A
Because
of
all
these
dice
games
just
eating
eating
it
all
up
and
we're
hearing
rumors
of
these
casinos,
possibly
spinning
up
their
own
chains,
just
to
keep
up
with
the
resources,
so
I
mean
obviously
there's
potential
scaling.
Solutions,
then
might
have
in
mind,
but
as
we
sit
today
and
probably
in
the
foreseeable
future
that
there
is
a
need
for
this
and
it
I
think
it's
the
the
path
forward.
C
A
Yeah,
so
it's
it
sucks
that
we're
there's
people
that
had
all
this
value
to
the
community.
Yes,
Bloxom,
is
being
a
great
example
of
it,
like
you,
guys,
have
been
so
proactive
and
positive
during
this
entire
week
and
hackathon
event,
where
over
500
developers
from
the
year's
community
showed
up
in
force
and
everyone
yeah
I
met
it's
just
as
enthusiastic
as
me,
just
as
enthusiastic
as
you
just
as
enthusiastic
as
you
and
you're.
C
It's
it's
definitely
one
of
those
things
that's
frustrating
at
times.
At
times,
it's
really
exciting
when
you're
doing
better
than
you
know,
you
hope
for
and
a
time
to
just
scratching
your
head,
like
what
you
know.
There's
no
correlation
we're
doing
all
this
stuff,
but
we're
not
yeah
boats
or
we
didn't
do
it
and
these
guys
aren't
doing
anything
and
they're
getting
all
these
boats.
A
Of
course
it
did,
but
US
Canada
just
released
that
it's
a
great
tool,
but
all
of
a
sudden
they
went
from
always
being
in
the
top
like
five
blog
cruisers
now
they're
like
in
the
high
teens
I,
don't
understand
it
and
it's
got
to
be
frustrating.
So
that's
where
I
see
a
lot
of
value
with
what
warbly
is
done
because
they
gave
a
new
revenue
stream
to
a
block
producer
that
is
giving
so
much
to
the
community,
but
not
being
compensated,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
this
is
a
business.
A
A
Think
that's
where
these
these
sister
side
chains
are
all
gonna,
really
add
value,
because
it's
going
to
give
a
revenue
vehicle
to
people
like
you,
blog
features
like
you
and
there's
dozens
of
them,
and
it
just
gives
you
that
opportunity
is
that
one
of
the
main
considerations
when
you
wanted
to
do
it.
Yeah.
C
Yeah,
definitely
that
was
a
big
consideration.
You
know,
I
think
these
are
all
interesting
choices
as
far
as
block
readers
or
blockers
or
business
goes
like
whether
to
be
a
producer
on
alternate
chains.
You
mentioned
earlier
that
a
lot
of
the
verbage,
the
blender
Brenda
bloomer
and
Dan
Lara,
are
using
recently
it
kind
of
speaks
to
as
an
ecosystem
with
multi,
yeah
I
think
that's
been
there
all
the
time.
If
you
really
listen,
you
know
for
it.
They.
C
Yeah
and
people
hear
things
the
way
they
want
to
hear
them,
and
especially,
if
you're
thinking,
okay,
I
own
this
AOS
token
I
want
its
value
to
be
high.
Maybe
these
other
chains
could
take
away
from
that
and
that's
always
been
the
fear,
but
I
think
the
reality
is
that
I
think
all
of
these
chains
are
just
gonna
help
grow
a
healthier
ecosystem,
one
where
they're
sharing
tools,
learning
you
know
it's
like
science
right,
you
don't
get
jealous
at
the
lab
next
door.
C
You
can
learn,
build
off
of
their
infrastructure
or
their
breakthroughs
and
and
I.
Imagine.
We
were
talking
about
this
a
little
bit
earlier,
Domino,
where
I
imagine
a
system
where,
like
it's
going
to
be
easier,
it
took
us
so
much
work
to
get
through
the
main
that
launched.
You
know
like
months
and
lots
of
work.
B
B
A
B
Yeah
I
worked
on
that
committee
with
Thomas
Cox
and
that's
all
I
meant
a
lot
of
people
in
hospitals
very
interested
in
the
governance.
That's
a
big
advantage
to
us
why
we
also
chose
E
us
and
yeah.
It's
just
gonna
be
a
1%
inflation.
It's
gonna
start
out
as
a
kind
of
a
more
straightforward
application
process.
We've
got
a
team
within
the
foundation
that
we'll
evaluate,
but
part
of
the
decentralization
process
we'll
be
putting
that
out
to
the
community.
B
A
The
governance
structure,
though
so
your
block
producers
are
chosen
because
of
the
process
to
become
one
right.
If
a
block
bruiser
is,
let's
say,
they're,
also
in
the
40s
or
50s,
but
they
haven't
been
in
touch
with
you
if
they
reached
out
to
you,
is
there
an
opportunity
of
like
just
bringing
in
more
standbys
you
pretty
much
like
set
in
stone
like
how?
How
agile
is
your
group
of
block
fishes?
You
currently
have
is?
Are
you
basically
set
or
are
they
gonna
have
some
turnover
over
time?
How
do
you
get
a
SPECT
that
we.
B
Expected
to
have
upwards
of
at
least
a
hundred,
you
know
I've
said
that
one
of
the
huge
strengths
of
vyasa's
you
do
have
all
of
these
technical
teams
right
with
surgeons
and
computer
programmers
and
people
with
business
backgrounds,
graphic
design
like
investment,
like
it's
a
huge
amount
of
talent.
That's
attracted
here,
that's
going
to
bring
the
innovation
that's
going
to
drive
adoption,
like
all
of
these
things
were
talking
about
in
blog
Jeannie.
That's
what
I
think
makes
a
deep
pot
really
special.
B
A
B
B
We
actually
have
an
inflation
model
where,
if
you
weren't,
adapt
your
staking
tokens
and
when
you
do
that
right
now,
there's
a
certain
amount
of
network
resources,
but
as
we
expand
the
network,
if
you're
staking,
let's
say
a
million
tokens
for
your
definitiely
you're
supporting
the
network
you're
providing
value
as
we
start
to
inflate
away.
If
you're
not
getting
some
inflation
rewards,
you
could
be
losing
ground
for
system
resources,
and
we
don't
want
that.
You
know
you're
running
a
great
business
on
chain.
B
B
Get
paid
more
so
block.
Producers
are
again
incentivized
to
help
sign
up
users,
help
launch
downs,
help
bring
in
gaps
to
our
business
development
pipeline,
and
we
just
thought
they
block
chains
need
to
be
used.
We
can't
just
be
giving
away
to
this
and
inflating
tokens,
otherwise
the
value
is
only
speculative.
The.
B
B
A
C
B
Family
active
pool
eventually
absolutely
yeah,
so
the
reserves
are
the
next
folks
that
will
be
candidates
for
active.
That's
our
system
works
for
now
again,
you
know
we
have
a
commitment
than
in
two
years.
I
can
be
ousted.
I
have
a
two
year
contract
through
the
foundation,
at
which
time
our
absolute
goal
and
our
commitment
to
the
community
is
that
there
will
be
voting
for
the
board
of
directors
of
the
foundation,
which
will
then
decide
whether
or
not
to
renew
my
contract.
They
want
to
get
rid
of
me.
I'm
done.
A
A
B
It's
definitely
FinTech
oriented,
that's
our
niche!
That's
our
focus!
You
know
we
are
not
out
there.
For
example,
nobody
on
the
team
that
I'm
aware
of
and
I
know,
I
haven't.
We
haven't
gone
soliciting
taps
that
have
put
themselves.
You
know
publicly
is
launching
on
maintenance.
We've
had
some
of
those
applications
approached
us
to
in
addition,
launched
on
horribly
and
does
it
make
sense,
but
we're
certainly
very
much
not
in
a
competitive
environment
with
main
net
at
all
its
cooperative.
We
see
ourselves
as
I
think
it
was
Sharif.
A
I
guess
getting
into
the
adapt
development
side.
So
if
your
team
is
is
going
to
start
building
out
some
sort
of
dapper
project,
if
I
guess
it
depends
on
if
it's
a
financial
services
down,
but
if
you're
in
building
a
general
dam
as
a
block
Prosser,
so
you're
still
a
standby
note
on
the
main
that
you
could
go
active
at
any
time
but
you're
actively
producing
all
of
the
time
on
warbly.
So
that's
a
really
consistent
guaranteed
income.
But
if
you
wanted
to
build
a
DAP,
how
would
you
decide
which
which
change
yeah.
C
B
That's
exactly
how
we
expect
to
see
it
happen
and
again,
people
not
quite
understanding
that
anything
that
launches
on
Maine,
that's
a
candidate
to
use
the
financial
services
ugly,
so
they
work
beautifully
together.
I
mean
you
know,
you
can
go,
do
your
email
kyc
at
warbly
and
we're
sending
it
up
so
that
even
that
account
could
be
an
OAuth
or
main
that
doubts
that
needs
some
version
of
AML
kyc.
But
you
know
the
whole
chain.
Doesn't
that's
the
difference
so.
A
B
No
and
you
have
a
working
group,
so
we
have
Ryan
Fox
who's
part
of
the
the
bitshares
lead
dev
team.
They
have
something
called
hash,
lock
timed
contracts
and
that's
a
way
for
bitshares
to
engage
in
some
ibc
with
other
chains.
So
we've
we
want
to
CIBC
with
bitshares.
Are
you
talking
videos?
I
know?
No,
no,
that's
a
completely
different
broker,
but
we
want
to
see
we'd
like
to
bring
the
bitshares
Dexter,
horribly,
yeah
I.
B
A
You
don't
have
any
and
you're
working
pendant
leon.
I
abuse
yet
because
you're
you
have
to
work
under
the
assumption
that
you
have
no
expectation
from
block
one
exact
they're
not
legally
obligated
to
do
anything
right.
They
could
wash
your
hands,
take
their
money
and
go
they
that's
the
terms
of
the
ICL
right.
But
at
the
same
time
we
trust
the
team
and
we
kind
of
hear
mumblings
of
what's
going
on
they're.
B
C
That's
a
good
way
to
look
at
it.
It's
like
you
know,
don't
hold
your
breath
for
something
that
might
come
or
may
not
come
from
somewhere
else.
You
know.
A
good
example
is
Rex
versus,
like
chin
tie
right
so
block
one
working
on
a
Rex
proposal,
but
in
the
meantime,
there's
a
private
sector
kind
of
yeah
that
will
differ
topic.
It'd.
C
A
A
So
any
like
the
secure
Enclave
all
if
anyone
else
is
working
on
that
the
IBC,
but
your
IBC
work
won't
necessarily
go
to
waste.
It's
kind
of
like
this.
She
is
21.
We're
gonna
call
like
that.
That's
very
useful,
but
then
bank
corrects
launched
very
shortly
after
and
they
both
kind
of
solved
the
same
problem
of
cross
chain
transactions
between
aetherium
INEOS,
but
I.
Don't
think
she
has
regrets
building
it
because
that
kind
of
they
got
on
them
they're.
Also
here
and
great
people.
They
kind
of
that's
how
they
kind
of
got
my
attention.
A
B
B
They
might
do
it
a
little
differently
right
and
there's
always
that
incremental
learning,
and
so,
even
if
we
were
to
build
an
IBC
solution
and
then
block
one
or
to
come
out
with
this
just
killer
version,
we're
gonna,
be
you
know,
publishing
whatever
we're
working
on
as
we
work
on
it,
it's
gonna
be
an
open
source
protocol
that
we're
building
so
I'm
sure
they'll
be
looking
at
it,
and
hopefully
that
they'd
be
forthcoming
with
some
of
the
stuff
they're
working
on
in
it.
But
everybody
will
benefit
yeah.
C
A
A
So,
as
a
stakeholder
as
the
developer,
you,
you
could
put
a
lot
of
work
in
for
little
or
no
compensation.
That's
that's
the
risk,
but
for
it
so
that
that's
an
individual
risk
of
the
person
who
built
it
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
fair,
not
fair,
but
as
far
as
system-wide,
if
we
think
of
the
holy-o's
IO,
not
to
ciose
ecosystem,
it's
all
open
source
code.
A
So
if
the
warbly
chain
makes
something
super
awesome-
and
it's
so
awesome
that
everyone
agrees,
that
it's
really
good
and
should
be
implemented
somewhere
else
with
the
referendum,
like
basically
being
ready
now
like
any
feature
that
they
build
on
their
chain,
they
spent
all
of
the
money
building
it
all.
The
main
that
has
to
do
is
vote
the
referendum
and
have
the
block
bruisers
put
it
in
I.
Have.
A
If
anything
is
going
to
be
able
to
get
passed.
That's
not
something
amazing,
like
the
wreck,
the
wrecks
everyone's
going
to
say
yes,
I,
guess
that
Dex
people
might
do
the
same
thing,
but
I'm
afraid
that
these
small
changes
are
still
going
to
be
hard
to
implement,
but
I
think
Bo.
S--
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
I
think
they're
going
to
launch
the
first
major
ESI,
a
Dex
like
system,
contract,
Dex
and
that'll
kind
of
prove
the
use
case
and
then
that'll
make
it
much
easier
for
like
the
maintenance
of
corporate
it.
A
And
you
mentioned
you
guys-
were
considering
a
deck.
So
maybe
if
that
technology
is
so
good,
then
maybe
I
don't
know
who
have
built
it
if
it
have
been
a
block,
one
thing
that
they
release
and
then
BOS,
which
is
implement
it
first
or
if
you
kind
of
take
pieces
from
all
of
them.
But
I
think
individually,
you
can
sometimes
get
screwed.
If
you
put
a
lot
of
time
effort
into
something
and
then
the
payoff
never
occurs,
but
but
but
that's
the
risk
in
almost
any
business.
A
B
To
that
individual
though
right
dev
right,
don't
they
don't
they?
You
know
they
end
up
benefiting
by
that
exposure.
Usually,
though
right
I
mean
I,
I've
talked
to
some
devs
that
have
developed
certain
things,
and
you
know
they
put
in
that
work.
But
then
look
if
you
come
up
with
something
that
works
like
that,
someone's,
usually
hiring
you
out.
B
Lost
its
experience,
it'll
lead
you
to
the
next
thing
and
I
think
the
system
is
becoming
a
lot
more
cooperative.
Like
again,
you
know
we're
doing
this
share
drop
on
maintenance
as
a
value
you
know
give
back
right
because
we're
using
the
software,
we
want
the
main
net
holders
who
funded
that
project.
It
was
a
big
reason
why
we
always
knew.
We
would
do
something
like
that
because
we're
like
hey
you
guys
funded
this.
You
know
we're
the
block.
Producers
got
all
that
experience.
It's
made
it
easy
to
launch
our
chain,
I!
B
A
I'm
still
uncertain
of
like
how
do
you
maintain
value
in
the
main
net
and
we
we
kind
of
agreed
on
that
where,
if
a
sister
chain
launches
you
want
to
distribute
your
tokens,
you
don't
have
to
airdrop
all
of
them.
You
can
still
even
do
it
like
a
hybrid.
You
could
raise
capital
for
tokens
airdrop
a
percentage
of
the
tokens
and
I
think
that's
a
great
great
model.
A
I
think
everyone's
incentives
are
aligned
because,
with
the
main
net,
all
of
these
users
are
getting
essentially
something
for
nothing.
Yeah
and
I.
Don't
know
how
someone
can
complain
about
that
right,
like
what
would
you
get
like
we
didn't
if
the
token
value
goes
to
zero,
because
it's
as
bad
as
you
may
have
thought.
Okay,
what
did
you
really
lose?
Yeah.
B
A
I
guess
I
have
a
few
I,
don't
know
if
they're
difficult
questions,
or
not
so
you're
producing
for
multiple
chains,
yeah
and
as
whether
you're
a
Bitcoin
mine
or
Theory
minor
or
a
block
Bruce
Ronnie
is
you're
constantly
needing
cash,
so
you
got
pay
your
employees
and
cash
typically,
so
you
got
to
liquidate
tokens
so
you're
producing
for
all
of
these
different
chains.
How
do
you
manage
your
finances
of
which
tokens
to
liquidate
at
what
times
and
because
warbly
is
brand
new?
A
If
do
you
see
more
upside
than
then
yo
s,
because
it's
already
I
mean
in
this
market
it's
hard
to,
because
we
know
what
the
potential
is
of
what
it
was,
but
we
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
come
back
anytime
soon.
So
how
do
you
like
manage
your
risk
with
all
of
these
tokens?
You
might
be
able
to
constantly
acquire
because
you're
doing
work
for
maybe
ten
chains
at
one
point,
yeah.
C
C
A
You
get
you
guys
are
in
a
good
position.
I
think
the
best
blog
cruisers
are
ones
that
either
have
their
either
launched
with
their
own
finances,
because
they
just
had
money
as
a
team
or
they
received
private
capital,
because
it'd
be
very
difficult
to
be
in
a
position
in
this
market,
where
you're
just
constantly
liquidating
your
assets,
and
you
have
really
nothing
left
and
then,
when
the
market
goes
up
and
everyone
who
was
able
to
store
all
their
acorns
they're
all
gonna,
be
in
a
very
good
position.
A
Financially
you'll
be
able
to
build
all
kinds
of
tools,
hire
new
staff.
Do
all
the
things
that
everyone
wanted
to
do
at
domaine
that
launch
and
then
they
had
to
pull
back
on
this
I
know
like
Kevin
from
years
New
York
he's
said
they
were
gonna,
hire
a
compliance
officer
and
that
all
of
these
plans,
but
then
the
market
kind
of
went
down,
went
down
they
how
it
all
fell
it
off,
how
it
off
and
then,
after
a
while.
It's
just
like
we're
just
gonna
put
put
the
shellfish
on
the
side
for
now.
Mm-Hm.
C
C
It's
hard
it's
a
hard
game
and
even
for
us,
we're
independently
funded
and
for
all
the
you
know,
independent
of
block
block
racers,
it's
a
squeezed
out
a
lot
of
time.
We've
definitely
been
pairing
down
and
expensive
and
trying
to
produce
the
most
value
with
a
little.
The
most
you
know,
smallest
cost
to
us
if
we
add
value
and
still
maintain
what
we're
doing
without
breaking
the
bank.
So.
A
B
No,
not
at
all
I,
you
know
it's
someone
who's
running
a
business
and
has
run
businesses.
You
know
economies
of
scale
reduce
everyone's
costs
long
term,
and
if
you
look
at
block
producers
working
for
multiple
chains
that
only
helps
every
chain
the
more
work
they
have
again
like
we're
talking
about.
Let's
say
we're
bleak:
it's
a
bump.
We
get
a
big
announcement
right
and
when
we're
trading
on
exchanges
at
some
point
the
token
goes
up
in
the
block.
B
A
B
A
C
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
more
we've
been
kind
of
trying
to
stay
afloat
just
prior
to
right
now.
Kind
of
problem
to
have
maybe
in
the
future,
but
I
would
agree
with
Dom's
comment
about
the
economies
of
scale.
I.
Think,
like
the
amount
of
effort
that
it
took
to
be
a
part
of
launching
the
main,
that
and
learning
how
to
run
our
notes
and
how
to
run
them
well
and
learning
how
they
crashed
glided
crash
and
and
all.
A
C
I
mean
so
every
block,
reducer
kind
of
decides
if
you're
gonna
run
bare
metal
or
cloud
services
and
I
think
when
you're
just
adding
on
responsibilities
on
another
chain,
you
have
kind
of
the
same
the
same
considerations,
but
the
economies
of
scale
come
into
play.
We
have
Rackspace
on
data
center,
you
know
another
service,
core,
eudicots
or
mana.
So.
A
This
is
highly
unlikely:
I
apologize,
you'll
get
in
a
second,
so
hypothetically
you're,
a
top
21
producer
for
warbly
and
those
are
kind
of
like
locked
in
they're,
not
gonna,
rotate
at
any
point
out
of
the
21.
What
happens
if
hoooo
be
decides
to
put
all
their
tokens
to
Leo's
block
Smith
and
all
the
sudden
you're
in
the
top
twenty
one
on
the
main
net?
You
have
a
limited
limited,
but
you
have
a
specific
amount
of
bandwidth
on
your
infrastructure.
A
Are
you
basically
anticipating
that
the
risk
of
that
would
that
kind
of
throw
off
your
node
if
you're
actively
producing
there
and
you've
been
a
standby
on
the
main
net?
So
you
can,
and
you
can
kind
of
assume
that
this
is
like
a
long
shot
to
just
jump
from
I
guess
50
to
21.
But
if
that
were
to
happen,
would
that
throw
off
your
resources?
Yeah.
C
It's
a
good
question
and
it's
one
that
we
definitely
have
locksmith
and
we
deliberated
a
long
time
for
actually
weeks
and
multiple
and
meeting
sessions
at
all.
Whether
to
you
know
produce
on
normally
and-
and
we
looked
at-
tell
us
a
little
bit
serious
moment
ultimately
decided
at
this
point.
It's
not
for
us.
A
So
I
think
the
risk
is
actually
more
on
the
Webley
side,
because
so
us
New
York,
has
never
left
the
top
21.
So
their
infrastructure
is
set.
They
know
what
they
need
on
the
main
net
and
they
have
this
set
aside
for
warbling
everything's
good,
where
I
could
see
a
potential
issue.
Is
you
have
one
of
those
tweener
nodes
on
the
main
net,
where
sometimes
in
the
top
21,
but
then
they
drop
to
like
30
and
hang
out
there
for
like
two
months
and
then
all
the
sudden
they
randomly
pop
pop
back
up?
A
B
A
C
Right
you're
on
call,
and
so
if
you're
piercing
on
two
chains
like
if
you're
the
top
24
did,
you
think
technically
you're
on
call
at
more
than
one
place
at
one
time.
But
as
a
physician,
I
can
be
on
call
multiple
hospitals
same
time.
And
you
know
it's
extremely
rare
that
there's
a
fire
in
two
places
at
the
same
time,
kind
of
thing
and
that's
the
only
time
where
it
would
be
I.
A
The
country
I'm
taller
wasn't
wearing
clothes,
essentially,
if
you're,
just
like
oh
I,
can
get
by
it.
I'll
put
all
my
infrastructure
support
warbly,
because
I've
never
been
in
the
top
21
I
could
just
stir
it
around
and
known
whoever
test
might
my
infrastructure
and
then
all
the
sudden
gets
tested
yeah.
C
A
C
Yeah
well
I
think
if
you're,
if
you're
a
responsible
block,
radius,
R
and
I
think
us
are,
then
you
are
like
doing
what
we're
doing,
which
is.
We
have
redundancy
on
both
sides
right.
So
if
our
main
producer
goes
down
or
believed,
then
our
backup
kicks
in
right
away.
There
are
two
separate
infrastructure
so
that
we
can
handle
multiple
emergency
differently.
B
Just
that
I
hope
everybody
from
the
es
community
is
gonna
claim
their
share
drop
on
the
21st.
The
portal
will
be
live,
we're
testing
right
now,
everything's,
looking
great
and
we're
inviting
everybody
to
come
over
and
open
account
and
get
those
coins,
and
we
want
you
over
there
and
just
to
look
out
for
we've
got
applications
launching
through
the
end
of
the
year,
insurance
platform,
utility
token
trading
platform
and
we're
just
excited
to
so.
A
B
Hope
to
get
some
voting
around
the
were
Bleen
etwork
fund
within
three
to
six
months.
Following
launch
are
up
great
timelines.
We
just
put
our
governance
kind
of
think
tank
together
with
todor
and
a
lot
of
other
standing
people
from
the
US
community
that
are
working
on
that,
but
by
the
end
of
the
year,
I'd
like
to
have
some
voting
around
our
whirling
network
funders.
A
C
A
C
To
connect
people
all
over
the
world
that
are
interested
in
the
same
thing
right
as
opposed
to
having,
in
the
same
spot,
so
he's
doing
we're
doing
round
two
of
the
us-japan
conference
in
December.
So
we're
getting
that
ready.
We're
also
doing
weekly
weekly
study
groups
on
governance
on
Thursdays,
one
Tuesday,
token,
omics
and
acts,
and
so
how.
C
A
A
Maybe
on
a
specific
week
we
can
just
determine
a
week
or
two
weeks
yeah
where
it's
like
I'll,
just
if
I'll
have
to
wait
until
I
have
a
really
good
one
that
I
haven't
like
posted
publicly
and
I'll
share
it
with
you
privately
and
be
like.
Let's
do
the
beat
Zack
weak
but
Sir
you
have
like
a
grand
prize.
You
can
beat
way.
We.
C
A
Put
our
money
where
my
mouth
is
right,
you
know,
and
then,
if
from
what
I
understand,
draft
the
referendum
system
contract
according
to
Josh
Kaufman,
he
has
candid
I
said
this:
voting
tallying
tool
could
be
used
for
anything.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
proposal
to
the
Constitution.
Why
don't
we
think
about
doing
that
with
your
knowledge
and
make
a
use
case?
Put
this
on
chain
to
it'll,
be
like
it
kind
of
like
a
lot
or
not,
but
voting
on
a
meme
versus
someone
else's
me
I,
like
yeah,
we're
good.
That
sounds
good.