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A
Welcome
to
everything
yes
episode:
7
I'm,
Zack
gall
and
I
CEO
data
analyst
at
ICO
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the
trusted
ICO
discovery
platform
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upcoming.
I
ce
o--'s
to
discover
the
latest
projects
and
opportunities
like
iOS
io
and
I'm
here
today
with
the
founder
of
IC,
o
alert
and
CEO
of
cypher
glass,
Rob
Finch.
Thank.
B
You
all
so
much
for
joining
us
on
another
episode
of
everything
EO
set.
It's
been
a
pretty
cool
collaboration
between
cypher
glass,
our
block
producer
candidate
and
now
IC,
o
alert.
You
know
the
trusted
IC
a
discovery
platform
before
we
get
started.
I
do
need
to
put
out
a
sort
of
a
legal
disclaimer,
both
SEC
call
and
I
on
the
podcast
duo,
Neos
tokens
we
just
want
to.
B
Let
you
guys
know
we're
simply
talking
about
software
that
we're
passionate
about,
and
this
podcast
should
not
be
construed
as
investment,
legal,
financial
tax
or
any
other
kind
of
advice.
Where
we're
simply
passionate
about
this
project,
and
we
recommend
you
do
your
own
research.
Thank
you
all
so
much,
though,
for
leaving
feedback
and
comments
about
the
show,
we've
seen
thousands
of
people
listening
to
the
show.
Every
week.
Now
it's
been
really
cool
to
see.
You
know
comments
coming
in
about
what
you
want
us
to
talk
about
or
thanking
us
for
covering
certain
things.
B
B
A
B
So
we
did
a
lot.
We've
been
participating
with
cypher
glass,
the
block
producer
candidate
that
we
announced
earlier
this
month,
we've
been
participating.
A
bunch
of
tests
met
specifically
the
jungle
test
net.
You
know
we
just
looped
in
some
guys
from
block
one
we're
having
some
code
issues
there
so
block
one
is
now
working
with
us
on
that
test
net.
You
know,
help
make
sure
all
the
issues
are
fixed
yeah
before
launch.
B
In
a
way
it's
it's
almost
them
helping
with
most
of
the
coding
issues
are
related
to
stability.
So
you
know
our
node
would
go
down.
You
know
pretty
frequently
on
the
test
net.
The
same
thing
happened
with
3.0,
so
it's
really
nothing
to
worry
about.
When
Dawn
3.0
came
out
for
the
first
week
or
so
after
that
release,
it
was
pretty
unstable
and
then
block
one
came
in
and
you
know
fix
those
issues
and
now
the
same
thing
is
happening
with
four
points.
C
B
Yeah
exactly
everyone
was
having
it's
an
issue
everybody's
having
so
now
that
block
one
has
looped
into
those
discussions,
we're
actively
opening
issues
on
github
and
making
sure
it
all
gets
solved.
So
we've
been
working
a
lot
on
that
and
making
sure
the
software's
ready
for
the
launch
in
June
we're
confident
we'll
be,
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
we
also
released
a
new
cipher
class
intro
video
that
kind
of
introduces
a
bunch
of
the
members
of
our
team
and
what
we're
doing
so.
Take
a
look
at
that.
A
Right,
yeah
and
I
saw
on
the
Dan
BOTS
telegram.
He
mentioned
that
dawn.
4.1
was
going
to
be
out
soon.
They
typically
release
things
on
Friday,
so
we'll
see
if
that
comes
out.
Probably
today,
if
you're
listening
to
this
podcast
we're
recording
it
the
day
before
yeah,
but
we'll
see
if
Dan
makes
that
post,
but
he
did
say,
dawn
4.1
would
be
out,
and
it's
probably
gonna
be
sooner
rather
than
later.
If
everyone
was
dealing
with
the
same
bugs
death
life.
B
A
Since
we
didn't
get
to
talk
about
it
last
week,
some
big
news,
a
lot
of
other
big
block
producer
candidates.
It
seems
to
be
a
theme
of
every
week,
so
bank
or
put
put
their
name
in
the
Hat
here
and
obviously
they
were
mentioned
on
4.0
bank
or
is
essentially
the
first
DAP,
that's
officially
being
released
because
it'll
be
on
main
that
day
and
day
one
yeah
and
don't
in
the
dawn,
4.0
blog
post
by
Dan.
A
B
A
shot,
so
your
es
tokens
right
now.
If
you
hold
us
tokens,
you
are
basically
guaranteed
bandwidth
on
the
network.
So
you
have.
You
know
that
computational
capacity
of
the
network,
you
can
send
X
amount
of
transactions.
So
if
you
have
one
percent
of
the
tokens,
you
have
one
percent
of
the
the
network
bandwidth
the
computational
power,
but
when
it
comes
to
RAM
random
access
memory,
which
you'll
need
for
certain
applications,
you're
gonna
have
to
actually
purchase
that
developers.
B
A
On
that
exchange,
you
don't
even
notice
it
usually
as
long
as
you're
winning,
but
that
that's
that's
how
that
exchange
is
making
their
their
revenue,
whereas
with
this
there's
going
to
be
a
1%
fee
on
every
trade,
whether
it's
a
buy
or
sell
of
RAM
there's
a
1%
fee,
so
that's
to
limit
speculators
just
holding
all
of
the
RAM
hostage
to
drive
up
the
price.
So,
if
you
think
about
where
this
1%
fee
goes,
it's
not
actually
going
to
block
one.
A
It's
not
going
to
eos
it's
not
going
to
the
worker
proposal
contracts,
it's
actually
being
burned
so,
depending
on
the
velocity
of
this
market,
when
by
velocity
I
mean
how
many
times
a
token
of
RAM
or
whatever
it'll
be
called,
is
swapped
between
two
parties.
Every
time
it's
swapped,
it's
losing
1
percent.
So
if
a
token
has
swapped
a
hundred
times
over
the
course
of
the
year,
that
token
no
longer
exists,
because
it's
deflationary
will
actually
take
50
swaps
because
there's
always
a
buyer
and
the
seller.
A
B
A
B
If
you're,
if
you're
hearing
this
in
your,
do
not
sure
what
we're
talking
about
we're
not
talking
about
the
actual
use
token,
so
if
you're,
not
a
DAP,
developer,
you're
probably
never
gonna
deal
with
this,
and
you
won't
even
know
that
any
of
this
is
happening,
but
it's
an
interesting
side
for
deaf
developers
and
how
they'll
kind
of
fund
their
DAPs
and
how
ram
may
actually
offset
block
production
so
that
it's
totally
free
and
actually
there
is
no
network
inflation.
Yeah.
B
So
you
can
stake
your
tokens
for
I,
believe
you
can
stake
your
tokens
for
bandwidth
and
you
know
storage
at
the
same
time.
Storage,
obviously
is
not
a
part
of
us.
Io
1.0,
coming
out
in
June
storage
through
ipfs,
will
come
out
later
this
year
and
we'll
be
supporting
that
it's
cypher,
glass
and
making
sure
infrastructure
can
handle.
A
It
but,
but
this
Ram
staking
is
completely
different,
so
for
the
everyday
person
you're
most
likely
not
gonna
want
to
touch
this
right.
It's
actually
a
very
risky
marketplace,
because
it's
based
on
the
supply
of
RAM
that
the
block
producers
actually
have
so,
let's
say
over
the
first
year
of
Eos,
as
they
add
file
storage
and
all
these
other
new
features
that
are
going
to
have
high
Ram
requirements.
The
network's
being
used
more
as
the
network
would
get
closer
to
its
Ram
capacity.
A
The
price
of
Ram
would
actually
go
up,
so
speculator
might
buy
it,
thinking
that
they
could
sell
it
for
a
profit.
But
what
could
happen
is,
as
the
block
producers
increase
their
Ram
capacity,
that
the
RAM
value
will
actually
go
down
as
the
supply
will
increase
so
for
and
I
think
done,
purposefully,
because
they
don't
want
a
ton
of
speculators
in
this
marketplace.
They
want
it
to
be
mostly
for
DAP
developers,
I
believe
exactly
yeah.
B
We're
starting
out
with
you
know
a
significant
amount
of
RAM
I,
think
it's
either
512
gigs
or
maybe
over
a
terabyte
of
RAM
and
just
our
block
producer.
So
if
you
think
you
have
20
others,
then
that
will
be
producing
blocks
with
us
that
also
have
that
terabyte
or
so
Ram
and
looking
at
our
face
through
infrastructure
plan,
we're
gonna
scale
up
RAM
pretty
dramatically,
so
it
I'm,
not
sure
I
would
speculate
on
Ram
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
very
profitable.
Yeah.
A
B
So
block
V,
which
was
a
a
Nicaea
that
actually
launched
on
a
theory
I
along
with
three
other
so-called
geo
snaps
and
block
V
sort
of
self,
describes
himself
now
as
an
IO
staff,
which
I
think
is
interesting,
which
I
guess
sort
of
alludes
to
the
fact
that
blog
V
will
be
moving
to
EOS
butt,
so
block
V
and
then
three
other
dabs
have
sort
of
come
together
to
launch
a
block
producer
as
well.
I
forget
the
name
of
it,
but
I
saw
the
announcement
post
I
think
yesterday.
Otherwise.
A
I
just
thought
I'm
ready
a
little
bit
ago.
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
though
yeah
I
guess
that
kind
of
brings
up
a
good
point.
So
this
is
another
eath
project.
Moving
over
we've
talked
about
wax
and
I
know
it's
a
fork
yeah,
but
they're
going
to
be
building
features
on
iOS
I/o
and
the
main
that
could
actually
incorporate
all
those
features
if
they
find
them
useful.
So
how
do
precise?
That's
the
benefit
of
open
source
software
like
the
more
development
teams
that
fork.
A
Obviously,
we
want
a
lot
of
these
businesses
building
on
the
main
net,
but
the
more
of
them
that
fork
just
means
that
there's
an
entire
core
development
team,
also
working
on
the
same
platform
with
features
that
aren't
currently
available
on
the
main
net
and
the
main
that
could
bring
in
those
features
at
any
time
and
that
that's
that's
one
of
the
benefits
to
people,
forking
and
kind
of
making
their
own
use
of
yose,
because
they're
testing
things
that
may
be
block.
One
hasn't
thought
of
yet
like
that.
A
But
this
brings
up
a
good
time
to
play
a
quote:
I
shared
this
quote
in
the
US
telegram
channel
a
while
ago,
then
I
was
shilling
it
this
morning
also
because
I
think
it's
a
really
good
quote
from
when
dan
was
interviewed
on
Ivan
on
Tech
a
month
or
two
ago
right
before
the
bank,
the
bankers
original
announcement
of
their
protocol
being
used.
We.
C
Have
several
people
every
single
day
contacting
us
a
lot
of
projects
that
are
on
aetherium
we're
planning
to
move
to
EOS
because
of
the
technological
speed,
low
fees
and
alike
will
be
releasing
information
about
one
of
them
next
week.
So
but
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
moving
and
have
expressed
interest
in
moving
and
a
lot
of
people
are
just
below
the
radar
waiting
for
a
blockchain
to
come
out
in
June
before
they
officially
announce
things.
But
there's
everyone
who
comes
and
we've
talked
to.
They
see
that
es.
B
I
think
we're
gonna
see
a
lot
of
the
businesses
that
have.
These
are
major
corporations
that
have
sort
of
assembled
blockchain
teams
over
the
last
three
or
four
years
and
have
been
constantly
looking
into
this
software,
who
probably
hit
roadblocks
and
said:
oh
sorry,
if
can't
scale,
maybe
we'll
do
a
private
chain
version
or
or
we'll
wait
for
another
solution.
I
think
a
lot
of
those
teams
are
now
gonna,
be
looking
at
EOS
going
oh
wow.
Finally,
these
problems
are
solved.
Now
we
can
actually
launch
the
DAP
that
we
envision
three
years
ago,
yeah.
A
A
B
Another
DAP,
which
is
a
big
corporation,
so
there's
this
this
company
that
launches
this
email
service
called
Zimbra
X
the
way
I
understand
it.
It's
sort
of
like
an
enterprise,
email,
client,
very
similar
to
MailChimp,
where
you're
sending
out
you
know
hundreds
of
thousands,
potentially
millions
of
emails
over
the
course
of
a
year
as
even
a
small
business.
You
know
like
here
at
SEO
alert
this
team
is
sending
out
tons
and
tons
of
emails
and
can
actually
use
something
like
this.
B
A
Let's
speculate
on
what
that
would
mean
for
an
email
service,
probably
yeah.
So
what
advantages
do
you
think
I
have
some
in
my
mind,
maybe
I'll
take
this
off.
What
advantages
do
we
think
could
be
had
by
putting
an
email
service
like
this
on
blockchain
and
III
work
with
MailChimp
every
day
here
at
I/o
alerts,
so
I'm
familiar
with
some
of
the
issues
and
I
think
the
biggest
one
would
be
the
privacy
of
your
email
list.
So
we
have
an
email
list
of
over
40,000
subscribers
and
we
do
that.
We
send
out
our
emails.
A
A
So
we
use
HubSpot
now,
but
we
have
a
giant
email
list,
and
this
is
all
private
information
that
people
shared
with
us.
They
agreed
to
our
Terms
and
Services
and
they
agreed
to
have
us
email
them,
but
what,
if
HubSpot
or
what?
If
MailChimp,
has
ever
hacked?
What?
If
an
employee
went,
rogue
and
just
was
stealing
emails
from
other
companies
and
sharing
them
with
competitors,
so
that
this
is
something
that
could
happen
and
we've
seen
countless
data
breaches.
I
mean
our
social
securities
are
all
known
by
the
whole
world
right
now.
A
Yeah
and
I
never
gave
them
permission
to
share
it,
yeah,
so
crazy,
so
I
think
that's
the
biggest
use
I
mean
the
others.
If
it's
personal
emails,
it
could
be
a
tokenized
email
that
you
have
to
have
a
hash
to
open
it
and
things
like
that,
but
I.
If
it's
a
commercial
email
product
similar
to
MailChimp
or
HubSpot
or
whatever
other
group
like
company
mailing
list
type
email
provider,
I
think
that
would
be
the
biggest
benefit
is
that
nobody
at
that
email
company
could
access
my
list.
Without
my
hat
my
mic,
my
keys
yeah.
B
I
totally
agree
and
I
think
we're
gonna
see
that
sort
of
data
security
integration
happened
in
a
lot
of
other
industries,
not
just
email,
not
just
healthcare,
not
just
finance,
but
pretty
much
every
industry
that
deals
with
data
in
some
way.
You
know
going
off
the
Cambridge
analytical
scandal
to
happen
at
Facebook.
All
of
that
could
be
solved
with
some
kind
of
blockchain
implementation.
That
then
gives
people
you
know
restricts
access,
I
should
say
to
that
data,
so.
A
B
A
Just
imagine
if,
when
you
download
that
data
dump
from
Facebook
or
Google
you,
you
could
see
that
data,
because
you're
logged
in
using
your
private
keys,
but
nobody
else
can
see
that
it
doesn't
matter.
If
you're
the
president
United
States,
the
NSA,
the
TSA,
it
doesn't
matter
who
you
are.
You
cannot
see
that
block
of
information,
but
because
it
is
all
tokenized
you
can
pick
and
choose
which
pieces
of
it.
You
want
to
share
right.
A
So,
if
I,
if
I
want
to
share
some
personal
information
about
myself,
let's
say
I
use,
Facebook
and
Facebook,
one
will
talk
to
Facebook,
we
all
know
and
if
I
wanted
to
share
with
a
data
company
all
of
my
likes
and
habits,
because
that
could
help
them
advertise
better.
I
could
say
all
right,
I'll
provide
you
all
of
my
likes
and
interactions
and
I'll.
A
Allow
you
to
show
advertising
on
on
this
version
of
Facebook
and
in
exchange
you're
gonna
pay
me
this
many
tokens
right
per
per
month
or
per
day
or
whatever,
that
it
is
and
if
I
decide
I,
don't
like
what
you're
doing
with
my
data
I,
don't
like
the
ads
you're
serving
me
up.
I
could
turn
that
off
at
any
point,
yeah.
B
I'm
excited
for
that
application,
specifically
with
healthcare.
So
if
you
think
of
all
this,
healthcare
data
is
siloed
in
all
these
different
databases
all
across
the
world,
but
if
researchers
and
and
data
analysts
had
access
to
that
data,
I
think
a
lot
of
medical
breakthroughs
would
actually
happen
a
lot
sooner
so
with
access
to
data
on
the
blockchain.
You
could
say:
oh
all,
my
hypocrite
healthcare
data
stored
in
this
ego
step.
I'm
gonna
basically
grant
access
to
these
ten
research
organizations
to
use
it
and
do
data
modeling
and
figure
out.
A
Ed,
some
just
what
you're
talking
about
read
some
really
cool
stuff:
I,
don't
I'm
not
confident
enough
talking
about
it
in
depth,
but
there's
so
much
cool
stuff
in
the
horizon.
The
next
and
it's
not
going
to
be
in
the
short-term,
like
that
as
much
as
we
want
it
to
be.
These
are
all
long-term
things.
It
could
be
ten
years
before.
All
this
is
mainstream.
I
wish
it
was
sooner
because
it's
super
exciting,
but
so
many
different
use
cases
and
I'm
not
I'm,
not.
B
Usually
one
to
be
a
fan
of
government
intervention
in
any
kind
of
industry,
but
I
think
we
may
see
things
like
the
healthcare
applications
actually
become
mainstream
sooner
than
10
years.
If
the
government
comes
in
and
similar
to,
you
know,
HIPAA
the
the
sort
of
compliance
policy
that
all
these
healthcare
providers
in
the
u.s.
have
to
follow
to
store
data.
If
they
say
update
hit
by
to
say
hey,
it
has
to
be
stored
on
a
blockchain.
In
this
way
we
could
see
that
happen.
You
know
very,
very
quickly.
Yeah.
A
I
mean
to
add,
add,
interestingly
enough,
my
wife's,
a
biomedical
researcher,
she's
a
biomedical
engineer
and
they're
her
company.
It's
a
start-up
there
right
now
getting
ready
to
do
human
clinical
trials,
so
she's
in
that
field
of
research
and
I,
don't
know
how
would
benefit
her
directly,
but
she
did
come
from
academia.
She
finished
her
PhD
last
October
her
two
October's
ago
Wow,
and
so
it's
really
big
in
academia.
When
you
go
to
publish
research
paper
so
to
get
a
PhD,
you
have
to
publish
I
forget
what
the
number
is.
It
might
be
different.
A
Every
school
like
three
to
five
like
peer-reviewed
research
papers
and
there's
different
factors
that
make
you
stand
out
with
your
research
and
one
of
the
biggest
things
is
the
more
times
it's
cited
by
other
researchers,
the
the
better.
The
that
that
your
paper
is
is
because
it's
being
used
by
other
people,
it's
adding
value,
so
I
actually
saw
a
blockchain
use
case.
I
think
I've
seen
several.
A
A
A
Those
are
the
stakeholders
so
think
of
it
like
real
estate,
where
you
own
stake
in
this,
and
you
could
actually
sell
out
or
rent
out
your
research
and
be
paid
in
this
tokenized
system.
So
I
think
the
es
one
was
what
I
did
I
think
where
they
pay
for
the
research
itself,
whereas
the
neo
one
I,
don't
remember
this
code
as
a
while
ago,
but
that
one
was
more
or
less
for
just
a
research
paper
that
are
already
being
made.
A
It's
just
to
monetize
the
citations
of
them,
because
typically
a
researcher
they
don't
get
paid
and
they
don't
have
any
rights
to
their
research,
because
it's
it's
public
right.
So
whenever
they
publish
it,
the
companies
that
sell
these
papers
make
a
crapload
of
money.
They
sell
them
for
hundreds
of
bucks,
a
piece
and
they're
the
only
ones
taking
that
money
and
I
don't
think
the
university
even
gets
that
money.
Yeah.
B
A
B
B
It
looks
like
estimate
more
than
a
dozen
coming
up
in
the
next
month
and
that's
only
the
ones
that
are
announced
so
far.
I
think
I
think
with
the
new
sort
of
funding
model
for
airdrops,
where
you
can
just
airdrop,
say
90%
of
your
tokens
and
keep
10%
as
your
funding
and
then
let
the
market
decide
in
the
price.
We're
gonna
see
an
explosion
of
air
drops
yeah.
B
A
With
the
current
IC
o----
moana,
that
means
90%
of
initial
investors
are
losing
out
there,
yeah,
which
is
always
a
risk,
but
with
the
air
drop
model
like
there's
no
risk,
a
lot
of
these
tokens
might
be
worthless
like,
for
example,
yes,
DAC
its
its
market
price
has
been
going
up
and
it's
all
speculation
because
they
haven't
even
been
voted
in
yet,
but
let's
say
they
don't
get
voted
in
they
and
hypothetically.
They
don't
even
get
enough
votes
to
be
a
standby
node.
Then
that
token
essentially
has
no
value.
A
B
Well,
if
you
think
about
yo
stack,
capped,
I
think
it
was
300
million
tokens
for
themselves
and
they
air
dropped
nine
hundred
million
back
when
they
were
only
nine
million
euros
before
the
last
underwear
distributed.
And
if
you
think
about
that
now
trading
at
20
cents,
they
basically
raise
sixty
million
dollars
to
fund
their
block
producer
and
help
keep
it
online.
B
So
it
I
think
we'll
see
a
lot
of
that
and
honestly
I
think
it's
a
better
valuation
model,
because
instead
of
selling
people
on
these
promises,
you
know
give
us
money
so
that
we
can
build
this
thing.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
gonna,
build
the
thing
first
and
then
airdrop
and
let
the
market
kind
of
reward
them
for
for
building
that
thing
afterwards.
Well,.
A
Especially
if
they
they
get
chosen
to
be
funded
by
one
of
the
u.s.
VC
partners,
yeah
like
there's,
no
reason
they
wouldn't
have
an
MVP
working
before
the
airdrop,
because
I
think
that
was
that
was
a
big
issue
with
regulation
in
the
u.s.
is
all
of
these
ICO
companies.
Launching
these
tokens
without
a
working
platform
to
use
the
utility
token
and
the
utility
Tok
quote-unquote
was
kind
of
the
loophole
to
pass
the
Howey
test.
It
has
this
utility
on
the
platform,
but
the
platform
is
vaporware
right,
so
yeah
the.
A
That's
always
a
red
flag.
For
me,
I
mean
this
is
I,
see
alerts.
We
talk
about
some
ICS
stuff
here
too,
with
ICO
is,
if
they
don't
have
a
some
sort
of
working,
MVP
or
beta
or
alpha
product
prior
to
the
ICO.
That
means
they
probably
didn't
get
much
private
investment,
which
that's
probably
for
good
reason.
A
B
B
B
A
Months,
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it
as
far
as
the
hackathons
I
think
you
mentioned
in
a
previous
episode,
but
the
judges
man
just
meet
the
judges,
if
they're,
actually
in
Hong
Kong,
which
I
I'm
tripping
over
this
Brendan
bloomer
the
CEO
of
buck,
one
Dan
Larimer,
the
CTO
Michael
Chow,
Winnie
Lu,
there's
a
few
others
to
serve
Medellin
I,
probably
messed
his
name
up
he's
been
at
a
lot
of
the
live
streams
from
block
one
yeah.
B
A
I,
don't
know
it
seems
like
whenever
I
get
messaged
in
the
feedback.
I
think
some
of
our
core
listeners
are
actually
the
other,
be
peace
and
I,
don't
know
about
people
on
block
one
I'm
sure
they're
really
busy,
but
it's
like
the
hard
core.
Yes
yeah,
I'm
sure
we
got
some
casual
people
there.
The
hardcores
are
listening.
That's
all
shout
out.
B
Yeah,
it's
been
great
to
see
honestly
the
whole
us
community
in
general
grow,
especially
the
BP
community,
there's
so
many
people
I
think
in
the
last
week
there
were
another
30
new
BP
candidates
that
weren't
out
so
there's
a
ton
of
people
vying
for
these
spots
and
I.
Think
that's
gonna
just
result
in
a
really
strong,
really
stable
network.
That
eventually
has
the
best
BP's
voted
in
so.
A
B
B
If
you
look
at
a
lot
of
their
videos,
they
put
out
incredibly
helpful
YouTube
videos
that
are
educating
the
community
they've
sort
of
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
I
believe
they've
written
some
of
the
actual
bio
startup
script
for
the
maintenance
and
they're
really
one
of
the
main
people
making
sure
that
the
main
int
launch
is
gonna
happen
that
people
can
get
their
tokens
so
I
think
the
es
Canada
team
has
done
a
great
job,
also
EU
s,
New
York.
Of
course,
yeah.
A
A
B
A
Don't
know
his
affiliation
with
him
if
they
brought
him
on,
because
he
really
understands
the
future
and
the
vision
of
this
and
they
brought
him
on
as
kind
of
a
helping
hand.
They're
like
a
spokesperson
or,
if
he's
been
planning
you
as
vibes
for
a
while
yeah
I'm,
not
real
sure,
but
man
I've
watched
every
one
of
his
videos.
I
doesn't.
B
A
Used
I
had
some
notes
for
talking
about
RAM
on
even
get
through
them
all,
but
I
actually
took
the
notes
based
on
his
video,
really
yeah.
That's
awesome,
yeah
I
was
listening
to
it.
Then
I
read
through
the
transcript
his
YouTube,
like
it
does
like
a
text-to-speech
type
thing.
If
you
look
for
it
but
yeah
his
videos
are
awesome.
I
remember
he
did
one
on
how
he
on
his
explanation
of
Eos
as
real
estate
and
yeah.
A
That
was
one
of
the
my
it
wasn't
one
of
my
first
ones,
I
watched
as
one
of
my
first
ones.
I
started
sharing
with
people,
because
people
were
always
asking
me
like.
Why
do
you
like
hear
so
much,
and
that
would
be
one
of
the
videos
I
would
send
them.
I'd
say
watch
this
and
one
this
might
make
sense
to
you
that.
B
B
A
B
I
do
have
to
give
a
special
shout
out
before
we
move
on
to
use
Canada
for
helping
us
with
some
of
the
projections
for
block
Cruiser
revenue
to
help
our
budgeting.
They
were
super
helpful
in
putting
together
a
big
spreadsheet
that
let
us
calculate
it
based
on
the
token
price
and
all
this
good
stuff,
which
was
inspired
by
Thomas
Cox
from
Bach
ones,
original
spreadsheet.
So
thanks
to
those
guys
for
helping
us
out,
they've
been
been
super
super
helpful
in
the.
A
City
since
you're
kind
of
like
an
insider
on
this,
like
what
kind
of
collaborations
going
on
between
all
the
block
producers
right
now
like
I
know,
Iago
has
them
broken
up
into
like
multiple
telegram
groups
and
like
different
subgroups
of
of
the
announced,
bps
and
they're
kind
of
collaborating
on
different
stuff.
But
you
want
to
like
add
to
that
because
I'm
not
really
sure.
What's
going
on
there.
B
But
the
collaboration
between
the
bps
is
really
right
now
on
making
sure
that
when
this
thing
goes
live
we
can
all
be
stable
block
producers
that
our
nodes
aren't
going
down,
that
we
are
missing
blocks.
So,
to
give
you
a
sort
of
an
example
of
what's
happening,
somebody
may
go
in
and
write
a
script
to
say,
restart
your
block
producer
automatically.
To
give
like
a
very
basic
example
when
it
goes
down,
and
then
that
block
producer
that
found
that
solution
that
coding
solution
will
actually
share
that
code
with
the
other
block
producers.
B
So
it
very
much
is
a
collaborative
environment
right
now,
we're
instead
of
you,
know,
block
producer,
building
a
bunch
of
tools
and
then
sort
of
keeping
them
to
themselves
for
them
to
have
some
kind
of
advantage.
All
the
block
producers
are
kind
of
sharing
that
code
with
each
other
to
make
sure
that
the
network,
first
and
foremost,
is
stable.
B
Well,
actually,
now
there's
a
new
voting
structure
now
so
you
vote,
you
basically
stake
your
tokens
and
say:
hey
I
want
to
vote
with
these
tokens
and
you
can
vote
for
up
to
30
people.
You'll
have
to
vote
for
all
30.
You
could
just
vote
for
one.
If
you
wanted
to
you
can
vote
each
token
30
times,
then
what
happens
is
every
week
your
voting
power
for
those
votes,
if
you
don't
renew
them
slowly,
decays
over
time
and
has
a
half-life
of
one
year.
B
So
if
you
vote
today
a
year
from
now,
the
votes
that
you
have,
if
you
haven't
renewed
them,
will
be
worth
half
the
voting
power.
They
are
today
interesting.
So
you
can.
However,
if
you
want
go
in
and
renew
your
votes
every
week
and
then
your
votes
will
always
have
full
voting
power
and
then
the
three
day
rule
applies.
When
you
want
to
stop
voting,
you
basically
click
on
stake,
and
then
you
wait
three
days
to
get
your
tokens
so.
A
I
guess
talking
about
this
voting,
let's
speculate
about
the
main
net
launch
because
for
for
the
network
to
launch
and
for
the
tokens
to
be
transferable.
So
whenever
the
main
that
launches
a
group
of
block
producers
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
rub
a
group
of
block
producers
who
were
not
yet
voted
in,
will
launch
the
main
net
correct
and
when
that
happens,
nobody's
tokens
are
transferable
they're
locked
in
until
a
15%
consensus
could
be
reached.
B
You're
gonna
vote
through
whatever
your
wallet
software
is
so
right
now
it
seems
that
the
main
wallet
that's
gonna
be
available
at
launch.
Is
the
scatter
wallet
I'm?
You
know
always
do
your
own
research
with
wallets
make
sure
you're
using
something
secure,
but
it
looks
like
you'll
be
able
to
vote
through
through
scatter
from
day
one,
and
you
should
hopefully
also
be
able
to
vote
through
BitFenix.
If
you
hold
your
tokens
there
from
day
one
it's
unclear
if
that
voting
mechanism,
that
if
the
Nexus
building
will
be
day
one
or
be
later,
but
it.
A
Seems
like
a
will
be
when
they
announce
is
a
BP.
This
is
interesting
that
you
brought
that
up.
They
said
it's
they're
gonna
release
certain
open-source
software
in
May,
and
it's
like
around
this
time
frame.
Actually
I
don't
have
the
notes
in
front
of
me.
That's
a
good
point.
They
said
mid
May,
right,
yeah,.
B
B
A
D
A
See
the
only
way
that
could
possibly
happen
is,
if
I
don't
think
it
could
happen,
because
15
percent
of
tokens
I
think
just
between
the
bps
themselves
and
even
a
buck
one
none
of
their
tokens
are
unlocked
yet
so,
probably
not
them,
but
just
between
the
bps
there
should
be
15
percent
of
the
network.
Actually.
B
A
Most
people
have
this
token
for
this.
This
future
project
that
doesn't
even
it's
not
even
close
to
existing
yet
doesn't
really
have
a
utility.
Yet
so
they
just
keep
them
in
their
their
ledger
or
on
an
exchange,
and
it's
it's
just
a
trading
utility.
That's
all
it
is.
The
money
is
now
they're
being
asked
to
participate
in
the
network
and
to
use
one
of
the
token
utilities.
B
I
mean
voter
education
is
something
we're
really
focused
on
it.
Cypher
glass,
so
as
soon
as
those
wallets
are
actually
released
and
there's
some
process
to
vote.
We're
gonna
be
making
video
tutorials
blog
post
to
sort
of
walk
people
through
the
process,
but
it
will
be
very
interesting
to
see
sort
of
how
launch
unfolds
how
long
it
takes
to
reach
that
15%
consensus
and
and
sort
of
what
happens
there.
But
I.
A
B
Will
be
I
mean
if
you
look
at
other
deepest
networks
like
liske
and
Rhys,
that
that
voting
UI
is
always
built
into
the
wallet
since
you're
voting
with
those
tokens
and
I
think
it'll
be
very
similar
for
us,
where
scatter,
for
example,
will
have
their
own
voting
UI,
but
the
next,
while
they're
on
voting
UI,
whatever
wallet
that
you're
storing
these
things
in
will
have
a
voting
UI
to
sort
of
cast.
Your
vote
apportioning.
A
B
I'm
sort
of
holding
off
on
running
for
BitFenix,
yet
until
they
deliver
on
their
promise
to
actually
let
people
vote
for
whoever
they
want
so
they've
been
very
good.
Paulo
at
PIFAN
ex
has
been
great
in
the
the
BP
telegram
sort
of
talking
about
hey
we're
not
going
to
just
leave
a
checkbox
that
says
you
know
click
here.
A
B
B
A
I
think
they
take
a
take
a
lot
of
heat
that
they
I
don't
think
they
deserve
it
all
Oh
big,
big
hires
this
week
or
last
week,
yeah
Lee
Schneider,
was
the
one
I
think
was
announced.
Last
week
he
was
hired
for
by
block
one
the
company
building
us
I/o
for
those
unfamiliar.
He
was
hired
as
general
counsel
to
help
navigate
the
muddy
waters
of
crypto
regulations
yeah.
So.
B
He's
basically
the
main
legal
guy
at
block
one
or
will
be
in
June
when
when
he
starts,
but
this
whole
thing
is
really
interesting
but
and
I
think
it
ties
into
a
lot
of
the
announcement
that
we're
gonna
see.
So,
for
example,
we
saw
Nasdaq
with
their
new
crypto
exchange
that
launches
in
June
I.
Believe
it's
June,
16
sometime
in
mid-june,
they
said
quote
that
they're
listing
the
top
six
tokens
by
market
cap
yeah.
B
He
uses
one
of
those
tokens
so
I
think
having
somebody
like
Lee
Schneider
as
general
counsel
there,
who
can
kind
of
be
liaison
to
these
exchanges
and
say
hey,
you
know
we
followed
these
legal
processes,
we're
not
a
security
blah
blah
blah
was
gonna,
help
get
us
onto
NASDAQ
and
on
the
coin
base
in
Gemini
and
all
these
other
places-
and
this
is
just
speculation,
but
what
I've
been
saying
is
if
Nasdaq
who's
you
know
susceptible
to
all,
these
different
kinds
of
regulations
is
comfortable
listing
us,
as
they've
said
they
are,
then
guess.
What
guess?
B
A
To
add
the
way
you
just
said
all
the
Nasdaq
stuff,
yeah
galaxy
digital
they're,
their
index
fund,
oh
yeah,
Mike
Novogratz,
announced
he's
launching
a
top
ten
index
fund,
yeah
that'll
be
publicly
traded
and
it's
the
top
ten
crypto
by
market
cap
yeah.
Well,
everyone
knows
but
number
number
five
is
right:
yeah
yeah.
B
A
B
And
myka
Novogratz
is
sort
of
the
famous
traditional
finance
guy,
who
was
well
known
for
buying
about
a
million
ether
around
a
dollar
and
then
turning
that
into
half
a
billion
or
a
billion
dollars.
So
he's
he's
done
a
lot
in
crypto
and
really
knows
I
think
he's
good
at
sort
of
predicting
which
platform
will
gain.
A
lot
of
you
know
gain
a
big
network
effect.
He
saw
with
ether.
He
called
that
right
now
he's
calling
it
with
EEOC
and
he's
putting
up
325
million
dollars
in
that
VC
partnership
to
to
fund
apps
on
eeo.
B
B
A
The
software
one
of
the
interesting
things
I
was
just
when
I
was
reading
about
the
galaxy
digital
index
stuff.
The
other
day
he
kind
of
called
out
investors
and
said
they'd
be
really
stupid.
I,
don't
know
what
his
exact
words
were
to
not
have
like
at
least
1
to
3
percent
of
their
their
total
wealth
and
crypto.
He
said
you
would
be.
A
Is
that
word
yeah
and
he
in
that
same
article
or
wherever
I
read?
He
said
he
I
think
he
has
10
percent
of
his
wealth
in
crypto.
But
whenever
you
just
said
how
would
he
buddy,
therefore
oh
yeah
and
I'm
sure
he
has
other
investments
that,
like
we
didn't
mention,
we
don't
know
about
man?
I
must
have
a
lot
of
wealth
if
10
percent-
oh
yeah-
oh
my
god,
yeah,
that's
pretty
crazy.
I.
B
B
Says
that
the
leash
Snyder
contributed
to
the
global
leading
guidance
quote
a
securities
law
framework
for
blockchain
tokens
which
was
developed
by
coinbase.
So
it's
interesting
they're
hiring
people
that
have
all
these
other
ties
to
different
industries,
people
in
the
crypto
industry
and
an
interesting
note
that
I
think
was
actually
in
their
press
release.
Snyder
co.
Co
hosts
a
podcast
called
appetite
for
disruption
with
his,
which
is
a
biweekly
FinTech
podcast
with
former
SEC
Commissioner
Troy
Paredes.
A
I've
been
meaning
to
listen
to
that
yeah
I,
usually
listen
to
my
podcast,
while
I
mow
the
lawn
yeah
and
it's
raining
today
or
it's
going
to
rain,
so
I
won't
be
listening
to
the
table.
Now
that
it's
in
the
front
center
my
mind
I,
think
I
do
want
to
listen
to
that,
because
I'm
really
curious
what
they
have
to
say.
Definitely
and
here
at
I
seola.
A
We
have
a
podcast
that
will
be
released
here
in
the
next
week
or
so
where
Ryan
Dennis
one
of
our
customer
relationship
guys
here
he
actually
interviewed
a
gentleman
who
has
a
lot
to
say
on
the
SEC
and
crypto
lobbyists
and
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
there.
So
look
out
for
that
in
the
next
week
or
so
yeah.
B
B
D
B
A
Anyone
listening
find
me
a
team
with
more
experience,
yeah
and
we
couldn't
even
say,
blockchain
experience
when
when
talking
about
Dan
Larimer
but
just
experience
a
hundred
percent,
no
one
is
set
up
to
succeed
like
like
block
one.
In
my
opinion,
there
there's
a
lot
of
other
great
projects
out
there.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
this
one
has
big
written
all
over
it.
D
A
Is
so
grand
or
that
you
can't
even
wrap
your
head
around
how
big
it
could
be?
Oh,
absolutely
like
think
about
Linux
and
how
big
that
is
like
a
lot
of
electronics,
you
use
or
actually
running
a
Linux
operating
system
underneath
and
that's
an
open
source
software
and
just
imagine
if
everything
moves
to
blockchain
light
like
we've
been
predicting.
It
will
for
years
because
of
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
Yes
could
be
the
platform
oh
yeah,
well,.
A
Yeah
I
mean
like
hearing
stuff
like
that
I
read
about
it
all
the
time
I
hear
about
I
talk
about
it
like
as
bullish
as
I
am
on
everything.
Crypto
related
everything
block.
One
related
yeah
I
still
have
trouble
wrapping
my
mind
around
the
possibility
that,
like
the
Internet,
is
going
to
change
dramatically
and
just
like
gonna
be
so
much
different,
absolutely
doesn't
matter
how
much
of
a
futurist
or
technologists
or
whatever
other
buzzword.
You
want
to
call
yourself
well.
B
A
A
So
that's
the
I
think
the
endgame
of
blockchain
and
I
think
Dan's
been
saying
it
before
the
whole
goal
of
blockchain
and
blockchain
applications
is
that
the
end
user
doesn't
even
know
they're
on
a
blockchain
yeah,
and
that
just
reminds
me
the
utility
token
how
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
people
have
never
used
a
utility
token
for
its
utility
I.
Take
that
back
we've.
A
lot
of
us
here
have
used
steam.
It
dan
Lammers
second
project,
unblocked
blockchain
project.
He
created
steam.
A
It's
like
a
decentralized
reddit
for
those
who
don't
know,
and
it
has
a
tokenized
system
that
pays
you
for
like
creating
posts
like
a
blog
post
or
something
and
then
the
more
up
votes
you
get
in
the
more
comments
you
get,
the
more
people
like
your
post,
the
more
you
get
paid
and
they're
the
steam
token
yeah.
It's
team
dollars,
yeah.
B
And
that's
a
good
example
where
you,
you
also
don't
even
have
to
own
the
tokens
that
use
the
platform,
which
is
pretty
awesome
and
I.
Think
that'll
be
one
of
the
biggest
introductions
of
sort
of
the
mainstream
into
crypto,
where
they
may
use
a
new
decentralized
steam
at
that
block
ones.
Building
and
go.
Oh
wow
I
just
got
ten
tokens
for
writing
this
post
that
got
a
bunch
of
up
votes.
What
can
I
do
with
those
tokens
and
then
I
do
a
little
bit
of
research.
They
realize
they
made
some
money.
B
A
This
week,
so
two
two
things
I
want
to
mention,
but
before
we
wrap
up
here
was
we
talked
about
this
a
few
weeks
ago,
the
Stack
Exchange,
how
they
needed
like
very
vetted,
like
veterans
on
this
exchange.
This
exchange
is
mostly
used
by
developers
of
all
different
languages.
It's
like
a
big
QA
like
if
you
have
a
problem
with
code
or
a
technological
problem,
you
ask
it
on
here
and
all
of
the
best
developers
are
on
there
and
they
help
each
other
out.
A
It's
a
great
community
and
to
get
a
forum
completely
dedicated
to
EOS
IO.
It
required
like
veteran
status
members.
People
have
been
on
there
for
many
years
and
contributed
a
lot
of
posts
yeah.
They
needed
votes
from
those
people
saying
that
we
think
this
is
a
credible
piece
of
software
that
we
want
to
have
a
dedicated
forum
to,
and
they
reached
at
Google.
Last
week,.
B
Yeah,
so
thank
you.
If
you're
one
of
the
people
listening
that
went
out
and
voted
for
that
week,
we
really
appreciate
it.
It's
it's
cool
to
see.
There's
a
bunch
of
questions
already
pouring
in
I've
answered
a
couple
on
behalf
of
cypher
glass
like
just
general
sort
of
governance,
questions
and
network
questions,
I
can't
dive
into
the
technical
stuff
too
much
there
leave
that
to
somebody
else,
but
it's
been
cool
to
see
the
community
already
start
to
build
around
Stack,
Exchange
and.
A
Then
the
last
piece
of
news
or
update
I
would
like
to
talk
about.
Is
the
big
vitalic
helping
dan
Larimore
with
his
commentary
on
yes,
yeah
I?
Actually,
I
I
was
so
impressed
with
it
and
so
pumped
about
it.
The
other
night
I
spent
like
an
hour
making
my
own
meme
yeah,
because
honestly
vitalic
and
danner
like
the
mega
powers
and
I'm
a
big
professional
wrestling
fan.
A
B
You
guys
don't
know
where
we're
referencing
so
vitalik,
actually
dan
with
some
coding
issue.
They
were
having
with
the
Byzantine
fault,
tolerance.
It's
basically
what
keeps
the
network
online
if
a
couple
nodes
go
down
or
try
to
go
against
the
flow,
and
then
he
helped
with
with
some
kind
of
issue
there.
So
Dan
sort
of
publicly
thanked
him
on
Twitter
and
it's
very
cool
to
see
them
come
together,
and
it
also
is
now
fueling
or
putting
fire
our
more
fuel
on
the
fire
front
of
the
rumors
of
Vitalik.
Moving
to
eos
I
think.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
the
I,
don't
think
they've
even
had
a
conversation
about
it.
Personally,
it's
all
speculation,
but
they
both
here
and
read
the
speculation
I
mean
I,
just
don't
think,
there's
been
formal
talks,
I
think
vitalic
completely
dedicated
aetherium
from
from
what
I
could
tell,
but
I
just
want
to
read
some
tidbits
that
that
dan
dropped
in
different
chats
throughout
the
past
week
and
the
first
one
was
I
have
a
job
for
V
at
b1.
A
If
he
wants
it,
I
may
have
been
a
bit
hard
on
V
back
in
the
day
and
then
he
said,
V
needs
to
walk
away
from
eath
for
it
to
ever
succeed
and
I.
Think
it's
coming
from
then,
because
of
like
bitshares
and
steam,
like
the
whole
point
of
a
decentralized
system.
Is
that
there's
no
head-on
the
snake
yeah
like
if
the
system
can
continue
to
succeed
without
without
that
that
front
man?
That's
great?
Oh
absolutely,.
A
For
your,
if
eath
is
to
be
decentralized
like
he
says,
then
he
needs
to
cut
ties,
and
then
he
even
mentioned
here
something
about
the
the
bitshares
for
better
solutions
and
that's
the
whole
thing
that
led
dan
to
this
point.
He
first
created
bitshares
when
nobody
even
knew
what
a
blockchain
was,
and
he
there
were
limitations
there
and
like
lost
funding
for
developers.
A
So
he
left
that
to
build
steam
it
and
he
built
steam
it
in
less
than
two
months
and
it's
the
most
widely
used
by
transaction
volume,
blockchain
in
the
entire
world
right
yeah
and
he
walked
away
from
steamed
it
because
of
limitations
there.
So
he
made
two
specific
use
case:
block
chains
that
that
bitshares
was
a
decentralized
exchange
and
can
run
Dax
and
then
steam.
It
like
we
talked
about
is
like
a
decentralized
reddit
where
you're
paid
to
produce
content,
but
those
are
very
specific
use
cases
with
IO.
A
He
built
a
non-specific
used
platform
that
any
other
blockchain
can
be
built
on
so
that
it's
a
general
use
blockchain.
So
that's
that's
why
Dan
says,
because
there's
a
lot
of
speculation
out
dan's
walked
away
from
two
projects:
walk
away
from
this
one
and
so
be
like
we're
talking
about
how
vitalic
could
walk
away
from
me.
Dan
dan
can
walk
after
yas
launches
and
it's
had
as
long
of
a
time
as
the
theorem
has
had
to
mature.
A
If
dan
walked
away
there,
there
would
be
no
drop
off
because
he's
building
a
huge,
great
team
of
developers.
The
whole
block
one
team's
good,
but
dan
has
stated
many
times
publicly
that
he
won't
be
leaving
block
one,
because
he's
got
a
lot
of
unfinished
business.
He's
gonna
build
apps
on
eoz
yeah
in
Dan's,
mind.
Oh,
this
is
the
last
blockchain
that
needs
to
be
built
and
everything
else
could
be
just
be
built
on
top
of
it.
Yeah
and.
B
Since
we're
we're
sort
of
running
a
lot
of
quotes
today,
I
think
will
be
cool
to
end
on
a
sound
clip.
So
Dan
was
asked
a
question.
The
question
was:
how
do
we
get
to
mass
adoption
and
what
are
the
obstacles
so
we'll
leave
you
with
this
sound
clip
and
we'll
see
you
either
next
week
or
the
week
after
well.
C
D
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