►
A
This
is
a
happy
hour
man,
I
I
don't
even
have
an
intro
prepared.
So
hey
all
right.
Let's
do
this!
Welcome
to
the
first
everything
eos
annual
holiday
happy
hour.
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
do
this
zack,
so
I
hope
you
have
some
eggnog
drinking
hand,
maybe
a
little
rum,
I'm
not
sure
what
your
cup
of
tea
is
here
so
add
a
little
splash
of
something
to
it.
Pax
got
its
beer
ready
to
go.
I
love
it.
Some
of
us
here.
A
You
know
we
still
have
a
little
bit
of
time
left
in
our
day,
so
we're
gonna
live
vicariously
through
you,
as
always,
remember
to
smash
the
like
button.
Join,
follow,
follow
everything!
Yes
on
youtube.
That
way.
You
know
everything
that's
happening
here
and
if
you
have
a
chance
and
you're
watching
live,
join
in,
come
on
in
have
a
good
time
with
us,
we're
here
to
just
spread
some
cheer
and
and
have
a
good
time.
So
with
that
said,
the
host
with
the
most
mr
zach
gaul.
B
Take
it
away,
man
yeah,
I
mean
I'll,
just
set
the
groundwork
here.
We
have
a
large
list
of
topics
in
front
of
us
shaney,
and
I
do
at
least
we're
just
gonna
have
a
round
table
discussion
here.
Really
big
round
table
discussion.
You
guys
can't
see
it
if
you're
watching
this
on
youtube,
but
anyone
who
doesn't
have
their
camera
on
you
can't
see
them
on
screen.
It
looks
like
we've
got
at
least
12
people
here
on
the
call.
B
We
encourage
everyone
on
the
happy
hour
when
you're
talking
kick
your
camera
on.
If
you
can't,
I
guess
we'll
let
that
slide,
just
don't
be
a
a
d
with
don't
you
know
what
was
that
called
whenever
they're
doing
like
the
homeschooling
and
stuff
and
people
would
just
pop
in
the
zoom
calls
zoom
bomb?
We
don't
want
any
of
that
all
right.
So
I
see
rahman's
here
thanks
for
joining
matt,
I
recognize
matt.
Let's
talk
about
the
news
today,
so
we
were
kind
of
we
we
had
to
pick
a
day.
B
We
said
we
wanted
to
do
a
happy
hour.
There's
been
kind
of
a
negative
sentiment
in
the
air
the
last
six
months.
A
lot
of
it's
warranted,
but
not
all
of
it.
If
anyone
wants
to
complain,
we're
going
to
give
everyone
the
opportunity
to
air
out
their
grievances,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
positive
things
happening.
Just
today
we
had
the
eos
I
o
2.1
drop.
B
We
have
yet
to
see
the
new
resource
model
drop
and
we
don't
know
if
there's
going
to
be
any
additional
news,
bundled
in
with
that.
So
why
don't
we
just
kick
it
off
with
2.1,
I'm
just
rambling.
Here
I
don't
know
if
anyone
in
here
has
had
a
chance
to
unpack
eosio,
2.1,
yet
ramon.
Have
you
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
it
at
all.
A
D
B
A
A
A
Brennan
is
not
going
to
be
fired
and
replaced.
There's
been
a
lot
of
of
pointless
rhetoric
out
there.
That
really
is
not
necessary
at
this
point.
Personally,
I'm
not
entirely
happy
with
b1.
I've
said
all
along
that
I
wish
they'd
be
a
little
bit
more
open
with
their
communication
and
share.
I
would
love
to
see
some
things
that
they
obviously
have
refused
to
do,
such
as
timelines
and
things
of
that
nature.
That
said,
it's
a
business
decision,
I'll
respect
them
from
that
regard.
B
B
B
F
H
F
Has
hurt
this
is
my
so
my
opinion,
I'll
kind
of
be
the
first
non-host
to
chime
in
here
a
little
bit
on
this
topic,
but
I
think
it's
two
things
like
it's,
not
just
the
lack
of
communication
right,
which
we
all
kind
of
assume
is
legal,
slash.
You
know
anti-competition
kind
of
strategy
stuff,
but
I
think
there's
also
you
can't
set
up
expectations
and
then
kind
of
you
know
not
deliver
on
them
and
I
think
they've
done
that
a
little
bit.
You
know
I'm
not
like
a
huge
critic
of
block
one.
F
F
F
Exactly
exactly
and
obviously
you
know,
we
know,
you
know
stations
privy
to
a
lot
of
stuff
that
most
of
us
aren't,
and
so
that
gets
us
excited
too,
and
I
think
I
think
it's
those
things
those
continual
like
you
know
you
set
up
an
expectation
and
then
it's
like.
Oh
nothing.
You
know,
I
think
it's
the
combination
of
that
with
the
lack
of
communication
that
I
think
is
just
hurting
the
sentiment.
B
F
That's
frustrating,
I
think
I
mean
you
know
you
we
touched
on
this
already,
but
I
think
the
two
you
know
big
things
that
you
know
make
me
kind
of
want
to
give
block
one.
You
know
more
slack
is
a
the
regulatory
stuff
right.
I
think
we
all
think
that
you
know
that
they're,
whatever
their
deal
was
with
the
sec,
whatever
they're
working
on
they're
trying
to
do,
you
know,
profi.
You
know
right
programmable,
finance
and
they're
trying
to
do
everything
kind
of
by
the
book
and
I
think
it
does
take
longer.
F
I
think
you
guys
mentioned
joe
brought
up
some
really
good
points.
You
know
about
like
a
couple
of
three
bills
that
are
like
in
the
process
of
you
know,
being
passed
or
being
worked
on
that
block.
One
clearly
was,
you
know,
supporting
you
know,
maybe
a
lobbying
for
and
put
some
resources
into
getting
those
bills
passed
and
maybe
that's
what
was
what's
holding
some
stuff
up
and
I
think
the
anti-competition
not
anti-competition,
but
I
think
the
competitive
advantage.
F
You
know
reason
is
the
other
reason
that
I
give
them
a
lot
of
slack,
because
if
you
are
building
something
that
you
know,
you
don't
want
your
competitors
to
get
a
head
start
on,
and
this
I
mean,
let's
face
it.
Crypto
is
filled
with
a
lot
of
copycat
projects.
You
know
like
after
you
mean
I'm
just
thinking
of
synthetics
right.
How
many
different
like
different
synthetic
asset
protocols.
F
Are
there
out
there
now
you
know
or
how
many
different
eos
projects
are
literally
just
copycats
of
something
that
you
know
was
initially
run
on
eath
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
that
going
on
and
it
goes
back
and
forth.
It's
not
just
one
direction
and
I'm
assuming
that
block
one
you
know
is
holding
some
stuff
close
to
the
vest
because
they're
putting
so
many
resources
into
it.
F
B
I've
been
on
a
roller
coaster,
ride
man,
one
day,
I'm
most
bearish
as
hell.
I
just
don't
know
what
I'm
even
doing
and
then
I
I
get
an
ink
link
or
a
crumb
of
some
hint
of
some
stuff
that
might
be
coming
and
I'm
like
holy.
This
is
amazing
and
I
get
all
fired
up
again
and
I'm
sure
it's
been
like
that
for
almost
everyone,
it's
just
like
all
the
starting
and
stopping
every
time.
B
B
I
B
To
talk
about,
but
I
think
I
think
a
lot
of
people's
frustration
is
they
feel
like
they're
not
being
heard
and
like
we
saw,
I
a
lot
of
you
guys
probably
saw
like
calling
on
a
telegram
or
twitter
saying,
like
brendan's,
ignoring
me,
but
brendan's
ignoring
everybody.
That's
why
I
kind
of
wanted
to
do
this
happy
hour
like
we're.
B
At
the
moment,
I
am
I'm
giving
the
benefit
of
the
doubt,
but
I'm
not
hiding
behind
an
alternative
account,
I'm
talking
as
myself.
Everyone
knows
who
I
am
I've
put
my
time
and
sweat
equity
into
this.
I'm
not
just
doing
it
anonymously,
and
I
wanted
this
format
to
be
a
way
for
everyone
to
kind
of
get
whatever
it
is
off
their
chests
as
long
as
you
could
back
it
up
with
some
good
reasoning,
and
let's
just.
C
So
zach,
let
me
let
me
say
a
few
things
just
to
put
things
in
perspective,
I'm
as
disappointed
on
eos
as
a
main
net
price
or,
whatever
you
can
say,
community,
losing
interest
and
those
kind
of
things.
I
think
we
have
talked
enough
about
it.
Let
me
go
back
and
say
what
brockman
promised
is
eosio.
They
have
been
delivering
on
your
cio,
that's
what
they
have
been
doing,
that's
what
they
sold
token
on.
We
can
all
blame
them
for
not
doing
enough
for
maintenance
and
all
that,
but
eosio
works.
Let
me
the
reason.
C
I'm
saying
that
is
I'm
perhaps
the
one
of
the
most
invested
here
in
terms
of
time,
the
money
we
put
in
not
just
my
money,
my
investors,
money
like
we
have
been
raising
money
developing
on
eos.
We
have
done
so
much
in
last
two
years.
We
are
still
sticking
on
because
there
is
nothing
better
in
terms
of
technology
like
if
you
compare
the
dabs,
we
can
build
on
your
cio
versus
anything
else.
We
there's
nothing
literally
impossible
to
build.
C
Then,
when
you
talk
about,
you
know
block
one
not
doing
enough,
I'm
with
and
with
everybody
right.
That's
exactly
everybody's
feeling
and
not
because
they
owe
us
it's
because
the
same
thing
that
you're
talking
about
they
talked
about,
like
you
know,
doing
things
which
they
did
not
follow
up
with.
But
sharing
said
like
it's
about
building
a
kind
of
hype
you
can
say
or
promises
and
which
they
did
not
deliver
on.
More
importantly,
I
think,
like
we
have
been
I've
been
in
venture
world.
We
do
like.
C
We
have
been
involved
in
so
many
different
money,
raising
funding,
and
so
on
the
disappointment
with
the
svcs,
I
would
say
the
biggest
one,
not
just
block
one
as
a
team,
but
as
a
like
what
they
did
with
this
commitment
that
they
will
invest
back
into
years,
and
that
did
not
show
up
why.
If
you
compare
today,
somebody
like
like
when
we
as
a
team
as
technical
team,
we
started
looking
to
call
cut
out
or
other
stuff
is
because
we
do
see,
there
are
grants
there.
There
are
money
being
given
to
develop.
C
That
is
such
a
big
thing
to
build
a
community
which
block
one
missed
out.
There
was
a
huge
opportunity
there,
which
they
did
not.
You
know
follow
up
on.
They
made
some
huge
investments
like
traditional
vc,
the
the
biggest
problem
with
your
species,
were,
they
were
looking
like
a
traditional
vc.
They
were
not
like
blocked
and
vc.
C
So
I
think
that's
where
I
would
say
the
failures
are
having
said
that
today,
like
I'm
still
happy
that
the
eosio
is
still
working,
but
what
will
you
do
if
the
community
is
not
there,
and
I
think
that's
where
the
biggest
challenge
is
now
another
perspective
is
when
bitcoin
came
into
existence
like
all
of
us
came
into
blockchain
because
of
bitcoin
right
in
some
form
or
other
satoshi.
Nobody
knows
who
is,
he
disappeared,
community
still
thrived
the
code.
Was
there
bitcoin?
Was
there
people
adopted?
C
C
A
C
Would
say
that
is
also
to
be
blamed,
not
just
what
happens
at
block
one,
of
course
everything
if
block
one
had
delivered.
If
we
had
better
funding
to
the
project,
this
all
things
would
have
been
forgotten,
but
I
think
everybody
I
don't
know
whom
to
blame
when
we
say
community
also
failed
to
build
on.
I
would
say
that
is
not
one
person's
fault,
because,
as
a
community
as
a
whole,
which
we
did
not
follow
through.
B
The
grants
you
brought
up
a
good
point
like
even
with
polka
dot.
I
shared
a
link
in
the
everything
else
channel,
showing
all
the
grants
that
po
that
the
web3
foundation
has
dished
out
over
the
last
two
years,
and
it's
it's
insane
and
not
all
of
them
are
going
to
turn
a
profit
and
that's,
I
think,
one
of
the
mistakes
from
the
early
eos
vc
investments.
Some
of
them
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
eos.
B
Some
of
them
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
blockchain,
but
from
a
vc
standpoint,
maybe
they're
looking
to
turn
a
profit.
They
are
a
company.
After
all-
and
I
I
respect
that
about
them,
but
it
was
it's
almost
like
they
didn't
take
any
chances
projects
like
anchor
scatter.
Even
before
that
just
infrastructure
projects
you
look
at
ethereum
and
ethereum.
B
Those
are
two
of
the
big
ones,
there's
so
many
other
ones.
There's
media
outlets,
I
know
like
block
one-
did
a
good
job
with
that
with
voice,
but
voice
is
still
very
young
and
maturing,
but
creating
their
own
content
network.
Probably
in
the
long
term,
might
look
like
a
really
good
idea
in
hindsight,
but
it
just
takes
some
time,
but
the
difference
with
ethereum
and
eos
right
now
is
that
even
in
ethereum
as
inefficient
as
some
things
are,
the
entire
community
is
like.
B
G
G
A
A
G
Okay,
okay,
so
I
want
to
agree
with
rahman
about
eos
io
being
the
greatest,
which
is
why
originally,
I
was
really
excited
about
ethereum
when
it
first
came
out
14
and
they
were
icoing.
I
told
everybody
I
knew
about
it
like,
oh,
my
god.
Let's
go
change
the
world
right.
So
then
eosio
came
out
and
I
realized
all
the
benefits
and
the
technological
upgrades
to
make
it
faster
whatever.
G
So
I'm
a
tech
person
I
want
what's
fastest
to
be
the
best
or
whatever
but
pomp
said
something
in
his
podcast
the
other
day
and
it's
like
first
mover
advantage,
sometimes
allows
you
the
time
to
upgrade
and
the
lack
of
community
gathering
created
by
b1.
I
blame
them
for
not
like
engaging
more
and
creating
a
more
happy
community,
because
I
feel
like
everyone's
gripe
with
eos.
G
Is
that
there's
a
broken
up
terrible
community
for
some
reason,
but
for
me
it's
like
b1
is
giving
all
other
blockchains
and
the
lack
of
pumping
in
the
price
and
the
lack
of
support
to
the
community
and
the
funding,
and
all
of
this
is
giving
other
companies
the
ability
to
actually
upgrade
catch
up.
So
while
people
are
forgetting
about
eos,
other
companies
are
improving,
improving,
improving
and
two
three
years
from
now
they
might
be
just
as
good
and
like
who
knows.
So.
It's
like
that's
my
only
gripe
with
it.
G
I've
never
been
like
bearish
on
eos,
because
it's
still
far
above
anything
else
that
I
I
know
about
that
actually
has
a
bunch
of
daps
out
there,
but
that's
all
I
wanted
to
mention
is
like
we're.
Giving
other
blockchains
that
are
slower
and
lesser
technologically
advanced
are
giving
them
an
opportunity
to
upgrade
over
the
next
two
three
years,
while
eos
is
still
like
stablecoin.
You
know.
B
B
I
I
feel
like
if
you
weren't
there
for
that,
you
wouldn't
still
be
here
right
now,
because
it's
like
that
nostalgia
of
like
what
you
you
felt
whenever
things
were
new
and
exciting
and
the
hackathons
were
going
on
and
it's
almost
like,
we
all
crave
for
that
feeling
to
come
back
and
we
want
it
to
come
back.
But
we
kind
of
need
some
help,
and
I
don't
know.
F
B
A
F
Characteristics
of
like
of
blockchain
space
and
you're,
not
gonna,
avoid
that.
I
don't
think
I
don't
there's
a
ton
of
value
in
you
know
in
that,
but
I
think
the
big
you
know
just
the
point
that
I
want
to
make
is
like
it's
the
developers
right.
I
mean
that's,
that's
where,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
where
the
buck
stops.
It's
attracting
developers
to
build
on
your
platform,
regardless
of
how
good
or
bad
your
technology
is,
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
expectations
that
we
all
had
back
in
2018.
F
You
know
or
even
2019.
You
know
I
you
know,
I
helped
working
at
the
eos
world
expo
event.
You
know
in
2019,
and
there
was
all
these
great
like
little
projects
that
were
startups
that
you
know
a
lot
of
them
have
gone
under
now.
You
know
I
mean
this
is
a
year
and
a
half
later
right
and
none
of
them,
some
of
them
didn't
get
funding
some
of
them.
Just
the
the
traction,
never
got
there
for
eos
as
a
main
net.
F
You
know,
and
so
their
projects
didn't,
you
know,
get
a
spotlight,
but
it's
kind
of
sad
to
see
that
and
and
maybe
block
one's
you
know,
plan
changed
over
time
and
originally
they
were
ready.
You
know
in
2018,
for
you
know
startups
to
come
out
and,
like
you
know
and
pitch
to
the
to
the
venture,
you
know
venture
funds
that
they
funded
or
whatever
and
and
then
their
their
ideas
changed,
and
they
said
you
know
what
we're
going
to
wait
and
really
come
out
with.
C
C
Is
the
fact
is,
as
I
said,
we
are
like
our
team
had
like
in
a
block
star
and
whatever
companies
we
are
working
on,
our
team
has
been
has
grown
four
times
in
the
last
two
years
working
on
esio.
I
know
I've
been
talking
to
so
many
different
people.
If
you
talk
to
malta
block-
and
you
know
michael
yeah
just
finished
patreon
competitor
right
now
on
yours.
When
I
talk
to
your
sphere,
those
guys
are
working
with
so
many
different
companies
in
australia.
C
You
know
day-to-day
in
community,
it's
very
difficult
to
catch
up,
but
the
fact
is
when
I
started
talking
to
these
people
last
month-
and
I
said:
okay,
let's
reach
out
to
each
other-
what
you
guys
are
doing-
and
I
learned
that
everybody
every
developer
out
there,
which
I
used
to
be
connected
to
they're
still
developing
eosio-
is
still
growing
in
terms
of
the
apps.
The
people
have
a
lot
of
hope
in
and
these
are
all
real
real
world
applications.
These
are
not
your
typical
crypto
stuff.
C
This
is
real
world
application
using
your
cio
oreos
mainland
directly.
So
it's
not
that
like
and
I
can
say
from
a
personal
experience
like
I
have.
We
are
all
complaining
and
all
these
things
and
let
me
change
the
mood
and
say
like
we
are
developing
more
than
ever.
We
are
like
you
know,
and
we
are
getting
a
lot
more
interest
in
terms
of
development
on
your.
So
it's
nothing
to
do
with
the
kind
of
that
eos
is
in
the
past.
It's
actually
growing.
The
challenge
is,
we
don't
have.
C
Investors,
see
your
token
is
a
speculative
thing:
speculation
thing:
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
reality
right,
it
means
all
of
these
things
and
everything
is
upon
the
interpreter
in
crypto
world,
like
there
there's
no
real
utility,
if
you
put
the
same
metrics
as
we
say,
value
in
stock
market
or
something
these
tokens
are
very
overpriced
everything,
including
bitcoin
or
anything.
Everything
is
based
on
community
and
you
know
how
much
you're
talking
about
and
how
much
you're
hyping
it.
C
So
the
question
is:
yes:
community
is
very,
very
disappointed,
very,
very
visible.
That's
reflecting
into
token
price.
I
think
we
have
lost
a
lot
of
interest
because
of
some
big
news
items
which
I
think
it's
again.
We
can
keep
blaming
block
once
again,
but
it's
about
there
was
too
much
hype
that
did
not
like.
There
was
no
follow-up
and
suddenly
the
kind
of
interest
started
dying
but
developers,
I
think
maybe
10
20
have
dropped
out.
C
Some
of
them
actually
started
developing
on
wax
on
fellows
and
a
lot
of
other
blockchains
like
we
have
this
brought
on
there's
so
many
eosio
versions,
which
are
now
they're
still
good
developers
who
are
developing
on
it.
The
question
is:
do
we
have
time
to
follow
up
if
the?
If
the
token
price
is
not
going
up
community
is
losing
interest?
I
think
we
have
lost
interest
in
tracking
if
we
can
build
the
community
around
it,
and
we
see
those
real
products
being
developed
and
used.
Eos
is
way
ahead
right
now,.
F
Well
then
I
mean,
I
guess
the
point
is
the
point
is:
are
we
failing
to
do
that
as
a
community
right
as
like
as
some
of
the
most
engaged
eos
community
members
who
are
showing
up?
For
you
know
this
everything
eos
happy
hour
right
like
we
should
be
sharing
stuff
about
what
is
eosphere
working
on?
You
know
tell
us
about
the
organic
products
that
you
know
you're
working
on
with
that
company,
what
we
we
need.
F
Maybe
we
need
to
be
talking
about
those
things,
those
projects
more,
because
I
think
that's
where
some
of
this
you
know
despair
comes
from
where,
like
the
sentiment
and
the
community
down,
because
we're
either
not
hearing
about
those
projects
or
we're
seeing
stuff
like
you
know,
someone
shared
on
the
everything
eos
telegram
channel
the
other
day.
This,
like
super,
in-depth
research
report
on
like
the
developer
communities
in
blockchain
in
general,
it
was
like
a
130
slide.
F
You
know
report
and
in
that
like,
if
you
go
through
like
all
the
way
through
where
it's
talking
about
the
different
blockchains
and
you
look
at
the
one
for
development
on
different
layer.
Ones
like
everything
like
has
more
developers,
you
know,
or
everything
is
either
in
line
with
the
developer
growth
or
has
more
developers
like
polka,
dot
and
silica,
and
some
other
like
layer
ones
that
they
did
than
they
did
previously,
except
for
eos.
F
Eos
is
like
an
outlier
on
that
graph
to
the
low
side
right
and
that
either
means
a
their
data,
and
their
report
is
wrong,
because
what
we're
saying
is
that
there's
stuff
going
on
behind
the
sidelines
or
b?
You
know
it's
accurate
and
there
is
like
some
part
of
the
developer
community
in
eos
that
is
going
down
and
not
up
and
like
I
said,
maybe
that's
a
failure.
A
F
There
are
these
projects
that
there
is
stuff
going
on.
I
think
we
all
need
a
little
bit
of
that
hope.
You
know,
and
not
just
to
be.
You
know
like
on
the
sidelines
or
quietly
being
worked
on
in
the
background.
I
think
people
need
to
see
that
and
we
need
to
kind
of
shout
it
from
the
rooftops
if,
if
it's
happening
right
so.
C
I
think
layer,
one
development
like
the
eos
io,
is
completely
centralized
in
new
york
right
now.
That
is
one
thing
we
need
to
understand,
block
one
delivers
and
everybody
like
you
know,
just
has
to
use
it.
So
you
cannot
see
anything.
There
is
nothing
public.
There
is
nothing
happening.
Can
everybody
in
your
place?
Whoever
is
not
talking
yeah,
so
I
think
it's
not
like
eosio
is
not
going
to
be
visible,
visibly
developed
because
I
don't
know
anybody
who's
contributing
to
your
sio.
C
Now
the
question
is,
in
terms
of
developers
means
when
we
develop
a
lot
of
projects,
they
don't
want
to
be
developing
publicly.
They
are
developing
in
you
know
their
own
source
code.
The
data
are
not
going
to
share
code
publicly,
so
nobody
can
track
that.
So
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
your
development
is
at
a
you,
know,
lesser
level
than
others,
but
yes,
the
way
they
have
built
the
open
source
communities.
We
should
appreciate
that
ethereum
is
great.
C
Volcard
is
doing
very
well
and
that's
what
is
lacking
in
yours
is
not
an
open
source
community.
Unfortunately,
yeah
eos
is
a
google
model
where,
like
google
delivers,
it
develops
android
and
gives
it
to
phone
developers
and
they
go
and
implement
it.
That's
what
block
one
is
doing.
They
are
doing
eosio
and
saying,
and
now
it's
available
for
you.
It's
a
great
platform
and
we
are
improving.
C
C
C
F
The
open
source
I
mean,
I
think,
that
that
I'll
take
that
point
I'll,
see
that
and
sorry
I'm
gonna
be
like
the
devil's
advocate
in
all
this,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
kind
of
voice
like
what
the
community
is
feeling
and
stuff,
but
so
to
that
point,
okay,
let's,
let's
go
back
to
the
the
foundation.
You
know
that
that
zach
mentioned
to
me,
if
you're,
comparing
ethereum
and
eos
right
ethereum
clearly
is
that
a
foundation
that
has
funded
so
many
tools
and
projects
built
on
it.
F
And
if
you
look
at
the
eos
community,
I
mean
we
were
talking
about
a
foundation
for
a
long
time
right.
You
had
people
like
kevin
rose.
Who
was
like
at
the
forefront
of
that
or
so
you
know,
I
thought,
but
then
block
one
goes
and
absorbs
eos
nation
right
and
kevin
all
of
a
sudden,
no
naughty
s.
Nation.
B
F
They
get
absorbed
and
then
it's
like
okay.
Well
now,
the
foundation
is
like
behind
this
black
curtain.
Now
you
know
or
the
progress
towards
a
foundation,
and
I
think
that
that's
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
community
members
have
been
pointing
out
too,
is
again
that,
like
how
do
you
develop
on
an
open
source
or
on
a
platform
when
there
is
a
a
black
veil
as
to
behind
like
the
timeline
for
updates?
What
is
b1
working
on?
I
don't
want
to
compete
with
what
they're
working
on
I
mean.
B
Think,
if
anything,
we
can
go
back
to
and
go
back
to.
2018
like
I
was
talking
about
earlier
there,
there
was
discussion
of
a
wps
before
the
genesis
block
was
even
produced.
Everyone
had
this
expectation
that
the
network
would
have
a
way
to
sustain
itself
for
like
core
infrastructure,
and
just
like,
maybe
like
a
security
auditing
team
like
just
different
things
that
you
need
to
to
make
this
project
grow
into
kind
of
what
we
all
had
expectations
for,
but
we
burned
it.
B
We
burned
the
wps
funds
twice
and
at
least
one
of
those
times
was
because
of
basically
block
one
saying
that
they
weren't
going
to
going
to
support
it
or
they
they.
I
I
forget
the
exact
terminology
they
used
in
in
their
blog
post
or
whatever
of
why
they
didn't
agree
with
the
wps.
I
think
it
might
even
been
brendan
saying
their
reasoning.
Why
and
he
did
it
in
telegram
which
they
used
to
do.
They
used
to
communicate
with
us
in
telegram
which
was
great
and
then
like.
B
We,
we
burned
the
wps
with
expectations
that
maybe
they
had
a
better
idea,
and
I
think
that's
always
been.
The
expectations.
Is
okay,
we'll
we'll
do
like
what
we're
told
and
hopefully
there
there's
a
plan
in
place?
That's
that's
going
to
be
better
than
the
original
idea
with
the
wps
and
then
time
and
time
again
that
gets
scrapped
and
it
doesn't
matter
what
we've
called
it.
B
The
commons
fund,
the
wps
whatever
even
at
the
beginning
of
this
year,
eos
nation
and
attic
lab
built
all
the
code
for
a
foundation
and
literally
all
of
the
block
producers.
They
had
15
out
of
21
of
the
mainnet
block
producers,
and
this
is
all
on
chain.
They
all
had
the
wps
ready
to
launch
with
a
funding
source
and
everything
the
msig
just
needed
executed
and
it
would
have
been
live,
but
it
didn't
go
live
and
I
don't
know
exactly
what
happened.
B
But
I
would
assume
that
there
were
probably
discussions
offline
of
maybe
like
wait
and
see
just
give
us
a
little
bit
more
time.
We
just
announced
pbe
and
even
in
the
initial
pbe
announcement
blog
article,
they
mentioned
an
eos
foundation
which,
once
again
kind
of
like
gave
us
a
little
bit
of
hope
that
this
would
be
coming.
And
maybe
it
is
because
of
corona
that
that
took
forever
because
they
had
to
move
to
the
caymans
and
all
that
stuff,
but
I
think
that's
part
of
it
is
there's
just
no
funding
mechanism.
B
You
look
at
some,
even
your
average
ethereum
ico,
that's
launched
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
they've
raised
like
30
to
50
million
dollars.
Let's
say
I
don't
think
that
30
to
50
million
dollar
core
code
aside
core
code
is
amazing.
Technology
is
great,
but
I
don't
think
we've
seen
30
to
50
million
dollars
invested
in
the
eos
mainnet,
specifically
in
the
other
aspects
outside
of
the
core
code,
which
is
freaking
amazing,
and
I
could
talk
about
other
great
things
too.
B
F
Had
you
know,
coins
on
eos
since,
like
like,
since
the
beginning,
you
know
and
airdrops
and
blah
blah
blah.
I
mean
that's
such
so
fundamental
a
thing
for
a
blockchain
and,
like
people
didn't
realize
that
tesla's,
you
know,
wasn't
even
really
there
like
that
was
three
months
ago
now
that
now
they
have
a
few
other
tokens
on
there,
like
you
know,.
F
F
And
it's
not
real
time,
but
in
eos
it's
like
real
time.
You
can
see
what's
happening,
but
long
story
short
is
one
of
the
differences
that
I
saw
in
the
tesla's
community.
Is
they
have
the
tesla,
tezos
commonwealth
foundation
or
whatever
right
and
they're
funding
a
lot
of
devs?
You
know
they
have
their
own
war
chest
and
it's
a
more
open
kind
of
collaboration
between
like
that
commonwealth
fund
and
the
developers,
and
I
think
you
know
I'm
not
pointing
fingers,
but
I
think
it's
fair
to
like
point
out.
F
You
know
flaws,
and
I
think
that
what
you're
just
saying
like
with
block
one
kind
of
like
dipping
their
toes
into
the
community
and
then
dipping
it
out
again.
You
know
like
whether
it's
regards
to
like
the
creation
of
a
foundation
or
the
creation
of
wps,
like
oh
yeah.
No,
don't
do
that
yet
because
you
know
and
then
like
we're,
always
like
wait.
Is
this
happening
or
not?
What's
going
on?
So
it's
not
like,
they
have
been.
You
know
totally
hands
off
this
whole
time.
F
A
Think
we'll
see
it
guys.
You
know
joe
mentioned
in
telegram
a
while
back
that
that
and
recently
here
that
that
you
know
the
reason
they
probably
moved
to
the
caymans
is
so
they
could
have
a
little
bit
more
hands-on
approach,
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
the
four
billion
dollars
is
secured
not
subject
to
any
recapture
any
fines,
additional
fines
from
the
sec,
because
they'd
be
investing
back
into
a
project.
A
The
caymans
will
help
with
that.
Hopefully,
we
saw
brennan
point
out
there
in
twitter
that
they
were
bringing
back
in
the.
What
do
you
say
to
date?
Investments
have
been
managed
by
third
party.
You
know
talking
about
the
us
vc
and
we're
transitioning
to
a
direct
investment
strategy
going
forward,
and
we
haven't
seen
any
usvc
announcements
since
that
time.
So
I'm
guessing
that
part
of
that
funds
will
be
hopefully
managed
and
allocated
to
it
to
a
foundation
in
the
future.
So
guys
I'll
give
you
your
opium,
it's
probably
coming.
A
We
know
that
that
that
that
eos
new
york
didn't
just
uproot
and
b1
didn't
pay
to
move
those
guys
across
the
world
just
on
a
whim.
They
picked
it
for
a
reason,
something's
going
to
happen
in
the
future.
I
agree
with
you.
It
would
be
great
if
they
would
just
be
transparent
and
tell
everybody
zack,
not
just
a
few
baby
bps
and
whoever
else
is
there,
hey
stand
down,
don't
do
the
w
the
wps.
F
Yeah,
I
I
agree
well
I'll
tell
you
one
thing
I'll
be
I'll,
be
positive
for
now.
I
I
think
the
the
p,
the
p
token
network
and
the
stuff
that
eos
finex
is
doing
like.
I
think
that
kind
of
went
under
the
radar
a
little
bit
but
bringing
you
know
18
of
the
most.
You
know,
traded
erc20
tokens
like
defy
tokens
on
ethereum
onto
eos
and
and
giving
them
the
liquidity
backing
that
only
an
exchange
like
bitfinex
can
do
is
huge.
F
B
Buddy,
that's
something
funny
is
I
I
have
some
friends
that
have
completely
capitulated
out
of
eos
and
it's
funny
because
they
still
like
they
switched
into
bitcoin
but
they're,
holding
it
as
pbtc
in
their
eos
wallets.
Even
though
they're
like
I
gave
up
on
es
man
as
an
investment,
but
I
love
bsio
because,
like
we
said
it's
so
much
better,
you
can't
go
to
another
project
once
once:
you've
used
eos
and
usa.
Oh
it's
hilarious!
So.
A
D
G
G
B
Negative
as
the
first
30
minutes,
or
so
this
was
it's
like
in
a
heartbeat.
You
had
some
communication,
you
add
like
a
crowdfunding
platform
or
some
some
way
to
get
grants
or
some
sort
of
like
investment
capital
going
and
in
a
heartbeat
things
could
turn
around.
I
feel
like
I,
I
hope
like
we'll
see
that
sooner
rather
than
later,
but
I
have
no
doubt
that
this
whole
ship
could
be
completely
turned
around
in
a
heartbeat
based.
C
C
I
hope
that
I
was
hoping
that
when
u.s
new
york
kind
of
teams
joined,
they
would
be
much
more
hands-on
looking
into
what
community
is
doing,
but
I
think
that's
what
block
one
is
very
easily
ignoring
and
again
all
of
us
are
still
relying
on
them.
I
would
say:
community
can
do
very
well
the
same
thing.
We
don't
need
block
one.
We
can
simply
go
and
start
creating
more.
You
know,
focus
on
them,
but
yeah.
C
F
Yeah
yeah
yeah.
I
think
I
think
you're
right.
I
think
you
know
this
summer
we
saw
some
really
cool
projects
emerge
and
I
think
the
community,
you
know
obviously
like
rallied
around
some
of
them,
but
I
think
that
some
of
them
kind
of
went
under
the
radar
a
little
bit
too.
Like
so
d5
box
was
you
know
this
tremendously
amazing
application
developed
by
you
know
what
looks
like
a
chinese
developer
team?
That's
somehow
related
to
nude
x,
and
I
mean
that's
a
game
changer
and
it
puts
stuff
like
uniswap
and
sushi.
F
Swap
I
mean
to
shame
just
because
it's
you
know
running
on
a
chain
with
the
power
of
eosio,
and
then
you
have
you
know
other
community
supported
projects
or
created
projects
like
several
daos
like
the
vig.
You
know,
vig
is
a
really
cool
project
with
its
own
dac,
the
dapa
countdown
it's
such
a
badass
project
and
that's
kind
of
gone
under
the
radar
to
some
degree,
and
I
think
that
that
you
know
there's
just
the
the
potential.
F
B
Going
to
share
my
screen
here,
this
guy
dogman,
he
shared
something
in
the
everything
years
telegram
channel
not
too
long
ago,
and
it
was
one
of
the
most
positive
like
outlooks.
It
was
one
of
those
days
where
everyone
was
kind
of
pouty
and
negative,
and
then
he
came
in
and
just
dropped.
This
message,
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
verbatim,
but
it's
on
screen
and
he
basically
said.
B
B
Million
eos
in
it
we've
got
eos
finex,
that's
tapping
into
the
bitfenix
liquidity.
We've
got
p
tokens
that
are
bringing
bitcoin
and
ethereum
and
wi-fi,
and
all
these
other
tokens
to
eos
we've
got
dap
account.
Now,
that's
about
to
bring
ethereum,
define,
usdc
to
eos
and
all
kinds
of
new,
crazy
opportunities
that
I
drumming
up
and
thinking
about,
and
I'm
not
even
gonna
get
into
that
here.
Like
so
much.
B
B
You
have
to
be
able
to
profit
more
than
like
five
or
ten
dollars,
at
least
probably
a
lot
more
on
a
complex
transaction
like
that,
probably
20
bucks.
So
your
your
opportunities
for
arbitrage
are
just
tiny.
If
you
look
at
these
automated,
like
arbitrage
bots
there,
if
you
look
at
new
decks
and
look
at
all
the
transactions
going
on,
you
always
see,
like
the
gravy
train,
guys
the
eos
nation
arbitragers
independence.
B
Here,
it's
sweet.
So
if
anyone
hasn't
seen
this
check
it
out,
basically
it
has
every
eos
d5
project
in
it.
It
lets
you
know.
If
it's
audited
m-sig,
you
can
learn
more
about
them.
You
can
even
claim
them
if
it's
your
project
and
eos
nation
just
added
their
new
vault
to
it.
There's
not
a
lot
of
information
here,
but
basically
you
could
fund
this
vault.
B
Basically,
funds
flash
loans,
so
the
more
people
putting
eos
into
the
vault,
the
bigger
the
flash
lens
can
become
eventually
you'll,
be
able
to
take
a
flashlight
out
for
like
a
million
dollars.
If
there's
enough
us
in
there
and
all
of
this
stuff
is
just
exciting
to
me
and
I'll
I'll
stop
rambling
and,
let's
hope.
A
Yeah
and
ramon
or
anybody
else,
if
you
see
some
some
good
those
projects
out
there,
that
you
want
to
get
a
little
bit
more
exposure,
let
let
kenny
or
shawn
or
me
know
that
eos
rider
and
we'll
we'll
let
our
writers
know
and
if,
if
they
have
the
time
to
pick
up
pick
up
the
article
you
know
we'll
we'll
throw
those
some
some
content
their
way.
I
don't
think
the
community's
trying
to
ignore
these
these
these
smaller
projects.
A
It's
just
that
there
is
a
lot
going
on,
and
it's
really
hard
with
so
much
going
on
so
many
projects
to
follow
everything
I
mean
most
of
you
guys
are
in
everything,
use,
telegram,
channel
and
20
30
50
other
use
related
telegram
channels.
So
you
know
you
know,
there's
a
lot
going
on
it's
just
it's
just
hard
to
put
it
in
one
place,.
B
G
A
G
F
F
That's
ever
been,
like,
you
know,
run
on
a
blockchain
out
of
the
water
and
obviously
it's
not
like
on
a
blockchain
right
now,
but
you
know,
or
it's
on
this
private
chain
right
now,
but
I
mean
like
if
that
hooks
into
the
main
net
at
some
point
or
even
its
own
eosio
private
chain.
I
mean
that
just
it
just
changed
the
scale
you
know
in
in
a
an
order
of
magnitude
that
we've
never
seen
before
for
any
kind
of
blockchain
game
and
that's
awesome.
G
F
A
B
B
So
what
what?
What?
What
are
you
guys
expectations
like
whenever
everyone
is
like
when's
voice,
coming
to
the
main
net
or
when's
blanco's,
coming
to
the
mainland,
like
what?
What
what's
the
actual
expectations
here,
because
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
put
a
full
application
on
the
main
net,
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
know
what
everyone's
expectations
are
for
whenever,
like
we
have
an
integration
with
the
mainnet
like?
What
does
that
look
like
for
you
guys
like
what
how
how
much
integration
is
going
to
be
enough?
Is?
B
G
A
G
F
F
F
C
Sorry,
it
makes
sense
for,
like
any
token
or
any
tradable
activity
to
happen
on
mainnet.
Otherwise,
how
would
you
bring
in
liquidity
like
right
now,
whatever
you
say
about
eos
yours
still
has
is
bringing
liquidity
right.
Eos
is
one
of
the
most
traded
token
and
coinbase,
or
anybody
most
of
these
exchanges.
C
You
can
easily
connect
to
dollars
using
usbc
and
so
on.
You
can
now
we
have
tbtc
bitcoin
liquidity,
ethereum
liquidity,
all
those
things
and
more
and
more
bridges
being
built.
The
thing
is
that
it
will
be
actually
make
economic
sense
for
them
if
you
are
developing
blancos
or
any
other,
like
even
voice
like
I
don't
know,
if
black
one
has
any
plans
to
bring
voice
to
be
a
tradable
token
openly,
but
if
that
is
going
to
happen,
I
think
that's
what
mainnet
can
bring
in
terms
of
liquidity?
F
Yeah
someone
tweeted
something
about
what
if
voice
tokens
were
somehow
like,
you
know
a
fraction
of
like
pbtc
or
something
like
that.
You
know
on
main
end
and
I
carry
flies
with
like
yeah.
Vbtc
would
be
awesome.
You
know
it's
like
one
satoshi
per
voice,
but
how
awesome
would
that
be
something
like
that
of
liquidity
that
you
have
with
bitcoin?
You
know
in
voice
tokens.
A
B
What's
everyone's
expectations
for
the
one
thing
I
think
we've
been
waiting
for
since
dan
used
to
call
it
bitshares
like
3.0
or
4.0,
the
the
dex
or
the
fincen
product
or
whatever
we
want
to
call
it.
At
this
point,
I
think
it
sounds
like
an
exchange
for
the
most
part
from
everything.
That's
been
made
public
like
what's
everyone's
expectations
for
this
financial
services
product
when
cheney-
and
I
interviewed
dan
larimer-
I
think
he
expect
he
hoped
for
it
to
be
done
by
the
end
of
the
year.
B
I
am
under
the
impression
unless
it's
a
christmas
miracle,
I
don't
think
it'll
come
out
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
would
like
to
get
more
information
on
it
by
the
end
of
the
year.
That'd
be
great.
I'd
be
satisfied
with
that.
But
what
is
everyone's
expectations
with
that?
And
do
you
think
it
will
drive
value
back
to
the
main
net
in
some
way.
G
B
I
think
it's
an
automated
market
maker
of
some
sort
based
on.
I
did
like
a
little
three-minute
video
clip
of
brendan
bloomer
in
an
interview
with
rau,
raul
pal,
and
he
was
talking
about
driving
the
incentives
from
like,
I
don't
know
his
exact
words,
but
it
almost
sounded
like
he
was
describing
liquidity
providers
being
incentivized
for
incentivized
for,
like
adding
liquidity
and
just
like
we
talked
about
with
d5
with
like
earning
trading
yeah.
So
that's
one
of
my
expectations
is
at
minimum.
B
That
would
be
a
difference
between,
and
this
is
just
speculation,
but
between
eos,
finex
and
and
block
one's
product
is.
I
think
that
there
will
be
some
sort
of
d5
components
to
it
and
they
are
calling
it
profi,
which
my
assumption
is:
it's
more
regulated
for
all
kyc,
I'm
sure
and
getting
institutional
access
to
defy.
A
F
F
F
You
know
d5,
you
know
arguably
and
then
amms
right,
which
have
like
blown
up
recently
right
and
people
didn't
even
know
what
an
amm
was
like
you
know
a
year
ago,
a
year
and
a
half
ago
I
mean
that
was
the
bancor
team
that
came
up
with
the
first
amm
and
the
bancor
team
has
been
working
with.
You
know,
block
one
and
eosio
for
a
while.
Now
right,
the
bancore
algorithm
is
is
built
into
the
ram.
F
You
know,
pricing
on
eos
and
eosio,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
like
foundational
elements
to
all
of
programmatic
finance
or
d5.
I
really
want
to
call
it
that
has
its
roots,
you
know
with
either
dan
larimer
or
block
one,
and
so
you
know
I'm
expecting
you
know
something
awesome
again.
Maybe
it's
just
I'm
one
of
these
die-hard
eos
community
members
who
has
huge
expectations
and
maybe
I'm
setting
myself
up
for
the
fall.
But
what
the
details
are.
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
definitely
expecting
something.
E
E
And
we
have
no
idea
whether
any
of
that
works
with
is
undermined
by
compete
with
what
block
one
will
come
with
possibly
by
christmas,
and
for
me
that
that's
that's
the
trouble
you
I
I
work
support
financially.
As
far
as
I
can
these
these
projects,
but
I
have
no
idea
what
the
direction
of
eos
actually
is.
G
H
G
D
C
C
H
C
I
hope-
and
I
definitely
want
it
to
do
great,
but
it's
not
facebook,
let's
accept
it.
It's
a
blog.
It's
going
to
be
like
it's
a
it's
nowhere
near
social
as
anything
else
can
be.
Let's
call
it
what
it
is.
Let's
I
I
love
yours.
I
want
watch
to
be
successful,
but,
let's
not
say
block,
one
knows
how
to
build
products.
They
are
great
videos.
Are
you,
they
don't
know
how
to
build
products
like
let's.
B
Look
at
the
universal
authenticator
authentication
library.
As
soon
as
it
came
out,
it
was
already
kind
of
not
as
good
as
transit
at
the
time.
Yes,
new
york
built
something
better
than
block
one.
They
both
kind
of
released
them
at
the
same
time.
That's
just
one
instance
of
it.
You
you
gave
the
voice
example,
but
that
is
an
issue
with
the
roadmap.
C
Yeah
and
I
think
product
wise,
I
would
say
there
are
some
great
products
in
yours
already
since
they
like,
whatever
block
one,
has
done
this
again.
As
I
said
like,
let's
talk
about
competencies
right
now,
it's
block,
one
is
one
of
the
best
player
one
team
and
csio
is
the
best.
Let's
accept
it,
but
let's
not
say
that.
Okay,
we
have
to
be
waiting
for
block
one
to
build
all
the
products,
and
this
is
not
how
any
blockchain
would
succeed.
C
They
they
cannot
do
everything
and
plus
I
don't
like
they
are
still
ramping
up
these
teams.
They
are
there
they're
incubating
this
complex
voice
is
a
small
startup
within
block
one.
It's
not
like
you
know.
This
is
the
same
as
like.
Google
does
like
hundreds
of
projects
which
are
within
google,
and
they
nothing
was
assets
to
research.
So
you
cannot
expect
one
company
to
have
all
the
expertise
in
the
world,
so
this.
C
I'm
not
saying
anything
to
downgrade
block
on
him,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
this
is
a
wrong
expectation
to
expect
one
set
of
team
or
one
like
you
know
they
are
they're,
not
a
very
old
team.
You
also
understand,
even
though
they
made
whatever
money
they
made
with
ico,
but
they
are
still
a
startup
and
they
have
already
been
very,
very
successful
with
the
sio.
So,
let's,
let's
build
things
like,
I
think
we
can
all
build
much
better
and
we
have
all
our
competencies,
like
all
of
us,
have
better
products.
Perhaps.
B
Take
the
gloves
off
here,
iman
you've
been
developing
enterprise,
blockchain
solutions.
As
long
as
I've
known
you,
you
are
at
the
forefront
of
enterprise
blockchain,
you
built
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
that
moonlighting
was
using
and
moonlighting
was
one
of
the
very
few
esvc
projects
actually
integrate
with
the
mainnet.
What
are
your
thoughts
on?
C
I
would
say:
let's
see,
I
don't
know.
First
of
all,
I
have
very
limited
understanding
of
what
they
are
doing
for
enterprise,
but
I
know
that
they
did
the
csi
for
business
and
a
lot
of
good
stuff.
I
think
they
were.
They
could
have
done
a
lot
more
education
earlier,
like
doing
this
kind
of
now,
we
have
these
webinars,
which
should
have
come
two
years
ago,
which
would
have
been
much
more.
A
C
We
had
hundreds
of
people
coming
to
our
webinar
here
in
silicon
valley
and
we
did
not
have
any
content
and
now
that
we
have
this
content,
we
don't
have
that
engagement
anymore
because
yeah
when
things
move
on
people
get
disappointed,
they
don't
come
back
easily
and
I
cannot
go
bring
the
same
community
again
and
say
hundreds
of
people
that
oh
we
failed
two
years
ago
now
we
are
better,
come
again
and
then
moved
on
to
something
else,
something
more
shiny.
So
that's
a
challenge
so
again
now
coming
back
to
enterprise.
C
Yes,
we
are
engaged
with
many
enterprise.
We
do
think
esrio
is
still
the
best
fit
when
I
go
and
give
them
the
comparison
between
what
can
be
done
in
ethereum.
What
can
be
done?
Other
blockchain,
it's
a
no-brainer
to
use
io.
So
that's
pretty
easy
when
you
say
comparing
with
blockchain
so
block
one
has
done.
I
it's
very
tough
for
me
to
say.
C
Like
we
do
they,
because
we
don't
know
right
and
again
it's
a
matter
of
communication,
they
are
a
private
company,
they
do
things
which
we
cannot
see,
but
nothing
public
which
I
have
seen
yet,
like
you
know,
whatever
we
have
seen
publicly
is
not
giving
me
great
confidence
that
they
are
reaching
out
to
real.
You
know
enterprise
who
are
interested
in
blockchain
and
I
think
definitely
if
they
reach
out
to
me-
and
we
are
talking
about
it.
We
have
some
ideas
because
we
have
been
talking
to
enterprise
for
last
two
years.
C
We
have
engaged
and
dropped
projects
because
of
either
lack
of
funding
or
because
of
not
enough
support
at
that
time.
From
you
know,
everything
needs
a
lot
of
care
and
you
know
marketing
and
so
on.
We
are
a
small
team,
we
cannot
go
and
keep
chasing
certain
opportunities,
but,
yes,
I
think
we
can
give
them
pointers
with
the
kind
of
money
they
have
and
with
the
kind
of
intent
they
can
bring
in
sure.
C
I
think
we
can
follow
up
on
these,
and
this
is
where
I
think
there
is
a
gap
in
what
is
possible
and
what
is
I
think
we
are
not
doing
as
a
community.
So
if
blockchain
is
interested,
I
don't
know
what
their
interest
level
is
right
now
to
help
community
projects.
We
are
not
actually
a
community
project
either
we
are
still
a
private
company
working
on
you
know
solutions,
so
I
don't
know
what
their
ideas
are
on
the
enterprise
and
would
love
to
learn
and
work
with
them.
B
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
strengths
that
they
had
was
the
community
nathan
rempe,
and
I,
when
we
interviewed
bart
wyatt
from
block
one
who's,
leading
the
enterprise
and
blockchain
as
a
service
like
we
specifically
asked
about
a
partners
program,
because
I
think
that
could
be
one
of
the
most
beautiful
things
that
block
one
could
do
to
engage
with.
The
community
is
to
create,
like
a
global
partners
network
with
all
of
these
talented
teams.
Teams,
like
yourself,
eosphere,
dublin,
amsterdam.
B
All
these
teams
that
have
the
right
skill
sets
to
to
benefit
the
entire
ecosystem
working
together,
rather
than
kind
of
like
living
in
your
own
little
silos
and
then
also
going
back
to
people
kind
of
being
worried
about
competing
with
block
one
in
some
areas.
If
an
independent
block
producer
team,
like
eosphere
any
of
the
other
teams,
I
mentioned,
if
they're
fighting
for
the
same
customer
as
block
one
and
they're
like
a
large.
B
This
is
one
of
those
things
that
they're
already
two
years
behind
on
one
year
behind
on,
and
they
they
really,
I
think,
could
take
advantage
of
the
partners
network.
I
think
there's
too
many
talented
teams
in
this
ecosystem
that
are
willing
to
put
the
work
in
and
already
have
put
to
work
in
and
have
the
experience.
E
E
Oh
that's,
not
what
I
deal
with
I
deal
with
this
and
you've
just
mentioned
the
word
silo
and
I
felt
that
block
one
takes
a
very
silo
approach
to
its
work
streams,
which
is
sort
of
fine,
but
then,
when
you're
trying
to
take
that
sort
of,
I
I
wonder
who
takes
the
holistic
overarching
view
of
what
they're
trying
to
achieve,
because
everybody
that
comes
in
front
of
us
talks
about
their
work
stream
and
and
not
somebody
else's
it's
difficult
to
get
that
wider
picture.
That's
my
personal
opinion
anyway.
K
I
think
that's
quite
common,
like
apple
they're,
very
much
siloed
like
that
as
well,
I'm
speaking
to
some
of
the
developers
who
work
on
projects
at
apple.
They
have
no
idea
what's
happening
in
the
next
department
and
they're
working
on
certain
parts
of
the
ios
api,
and
they
have
no
idea
what
the
swift
ui
team
is
working
on,
for
example.
K
So
there
is
very
much
a
siloed
culture
there
when
they're
trying
to
protect
their
intellectual
property-
and
I
guess
they've
taken
that
approach
and
that
could
indicate
that
they've
got
something
that's
worth
actually
keeping
a
secret
which
could
be
exciting
as
well
so
yeah.
I
was,
I
wanted
to
say
before
I'm
about
the
the
some
of
the
the
profile
stuff
that
they're
coming
out
with
the
fact
that
they're
not
releasing
it
or
they're
not
talking
about
it,
could
indicate
that
it's
not
like
anything
else.
K
K
So
now
they
just
muted
themselves
and
really
really
going
just
day
by
day
saying.
Can
we
get
this
regulation
approved,
can
get
it
approved?
Can
we
get
approved
because
they're
busting
to
release
all
this
good
news?
What
I
think
is
good
news
anyway,
so
they
can
leverage
and
actually
release
products
which
quite
realistically
no
other
blockchain
technology
in
the
industry,
is
capable
of
being
able
to
deliver,
because
we
all
know
eosio
right
now
is
the
fastest
and
the
best
and
powerful
in
many
aspects.
K
So
no
one
else
can
really
compete
with
that,
but
it
also
means
that
they
need
to
keep
their
mouths
shut,
because
if
they
do
tell
people
what
they've
got
and
then
they
do
open
source
everything
they've
got.
It
gives
all
these
other
blockchains
and
everyone
else
room
to
just
go
on
and
just
take
all
those
ideas.
Do
it
and
run
with
it.
B
That
is
one
good
thing
that
they're
doing
what
else
here.
So,
let's
drop,
let's
drop
some
spoilers
every
almost
everyone
at
block.
One
has
used
this
financial
services
product
in
like
internal
testing
and
like
trading
contests
type
stuff
with
funny
money,
and
the
one
thing
I've
been
told
by
almost
everyone
is
that
is,
it
is
the
absolute
best
ux
ui
of
any
exchange
product.
They've
used,
centralized
decentralized
stocks
or
crypto.
It's
the
absolute
best
one
they've
ever
used
and
that's
not
blowing
smoke.
B
B
I've
only
heard
raving
things
and
it's
it's
ready
to
go.
So
I'm
thinking
the
thing
that's
holding
it
back
is
either
little
tweaks
here
and
there
or
regulation-
and
I
hope
we
see
it
soon-
dan
t's
towards
the
end
of
the
year
and
we're
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
how
much
extra
leeway
do
they
need
a
month
or
two?
Hopefully
we
see
it.
K
Dude
with
with
that
ux
and
ui,
I
think
that's
always
been
such
a
key
winning
feature
of
eosio
that
no
other
blockchain
has,
and
I
know
we
still
complain
about
the
onboarding
and
say
it's
a
pain
in
the
ass
to
on
board.
It's
really
not
it's
just
that
we
don't
have
quite
the
right
wallet
journeys
yet
and
that
the
it's
not
nothing
to
do
with
the
blockchain.
It's
actually
the
frontend
technology
that
isn't
quite
connecting
the
dots.
K
But
it's
fast
like
one
of
the
most
important
things
in
ui
and
ux
is
speed
and
I've
always
been
a
mobile
developer,
and
you
know
you've
got
about
three
seconds
before
you
lose
your
your
the
attention
of
your
user.
So
if
you're
waiting
more
than
three
seconds
for
scrolling
or
a
spinner
or
something
like
that,
they're
gone
or
they're
going
to
talk
about
how
crap
your
app
is-
and
we
can
see
that
eos
io
really
gets
rid
of
that
and
allows
the
tech
the
base
technology
for
people
to
actually
use
it.
B
E
B
E
G
C
B
C
I
think
one
thing
I
would
like
to
add:
I
is
as
block
producers,
you
would
anybody,
looks
any
project
when
you're
building
you're
looking
for
m6
candidates,
so
like
blockers,
is
the
obvious
choice.
So
bringing
google
kind
of
people
probably
has
that
kind
of
benefit.
It's
just
like
giving
a
key
to
another
trusted
and
well-known
party,
because
it's
about
trust
right
once
a
lot
of
people
were
concerned
that
all
the
china
has
too
much
of
you
know
top
block
producers
and,
like
you
know
that,
doesn't
give
confidence.
C
So
I
think
that's
all
it
achieves
at
this
moment
and
once
google
does
more,
I
would
say
that's
when
I
would
say:
yes,
it
was
useful.
Otherwise
it's
hardly
any
use.
If
you
they
are
not
doing
anything
more
than
just
spinning
up
a
note
and
nobody
really
doing
any
tools
or
new
contributions
from
them.
Basically,.
B
I
was
just
sharing
my
screen
because,
after
I
did
my
interview
last
week
with
bsn,
the
us
nation
guys
and
the
diffuse
guys
like
before
we
even
started
recording
just
seeing
like
the
vibe
in
the
zoom
call
man.
It
just
seemed
like
alex
and
yai
fan
and
eve
like
they're,
just
like
good
buddies,
like
they've,
been
working
closely
with
bsn,
but
then
you
look
at
who
bsn
is
working
with
and
you
look
at
who
who
their
cloud
service
providers
are?
I
mean,
who
else
would
they
use
besides
these
ones?
B
B
I
think
I
I
forget
what
the
other
ones
were,
but
he
said
yeah
companies
like
that
as
if
there
were
going
to
be
more-
and
I
I
I
don't
remember
where
all
these
bits
and
pieces
were,
but
it
almost
seems
like
seemed
like
at
the
time
that
google
cloud
might
just
be
the
first
of
several
more
and
then
you
look
at
who
the
technical
partners
are
of
bsn.
You
see
defuse
whose
eosio
grassroots
eos
nation,
I
don't
know
who
dammle
is
but
out
of
all
of
their
technical
partners.
B
D
D
D
B
D
C
They
said
brandon
bloomer's
statement
as
published
in
business
wire,
has
everything
it's
pointing
to
bitcoin
mining,
confirmed
by
himself
that
it
is
bitcoin
mining.
So,
let's
not
worry
about
what
people
will
say.
We
have
to
all
agree.
It
is
bitcoin
mining,
but
there
are
three
words
in
the
end
of
a
statement
powered
by
eos
io.
Now
what
does
that
powered
by
eosio
means?
I
have
no
clue.
How
can
you
mine
bitcoin,
because,
yes,
I
do.
I
have
no
idea,
so
you
never.
B
D
B
A
A
B
B
B
So
what
that
means-
I
don't
know,
but
hopefully
that
would
mean
tethered
assets
of
whatever
is
on
the
fincen
product.
We
know
it's
going
to
at
least
have
bitcoin
and
you
would
think
eos.
So
that's
the
other
thing
is
with
the
financial
services
product.
I
I'm
pretty
much
sure
that
there's
automated
market
maker
components
to
it.
E
Is
that
just
taking
you
back
to
the
singapore
singapore
thing
and
I
I
hold
a
bag,
so
I'm
disclosure,
chintai
and
they've,
been
they've,
been
with
the
monetary
authority
of
singapore.
They've
been
in
the
sandpit
for
the
last
12
months,
so
I'm
I'm
always
hopeful
that
there's
something
coming
from
them.
But
again
it's
like
it's
like
so
many
things
on
this
people
actually
they're
proper
businesses
and
they've
got
like
a
long
term
plan
rather
than
just
a
four
week
promotional
period.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
love.
I
love
shin
tai
I
like
to
follow
everything
they're
doing
they
they're
they
seem.
I
just
hope
that
they
could
be
kind
of
like
friends,
frenemies
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
with
block
one.
I
hope
their
relationship's,
probably
better
than
what's
on
the
surface,
but
if
not,
it
doesn't
really
matter.
B
I
think
they're
they're
both
going
for
that
regulated,
defy
thing,
and
I
think,
if
block
one
like
whenever
they
first
announced
that
profile,
I
wish
I
had
all
my
tweets
lined
up
on
my
screen
and
my
notes,
but
didn't
shana.
You
would
remember
this
better
than
anyone
didn't
brendan
say
that
they
were
interested
in
like
like
investing
in
d5
products
on
eos
that,
like
met
all
the
regulatory
like
compliant
stuff,
that
would
fit
within
like
the
realms
of
profile.
B
A
E
A
E
I
B
H
B
I
don't
know
four
hours
at
least
like
just
within
a
week
and
block
one
eve
said
publicly
like
they
had
100
people
on
this
problem
and
with
overnight,
like
everything,
got
fixed
and
the
main
net
was
running
smoothly
and
patched
and
all
21
block
producers
updated
their
core
code
like
you
would
not
see
anything
like
that
on
any
other
chain
like
like
that
they
get
mad
respect
for
that
for
the
support
that
they
provide
to
the
core
code.
I
don't
think
anyone
would
ever
complain
about
that,
but
I
saw
in
the
jungle
telegrams
channel.
H
Well,
I
think
the
ability
for
block
producers
to
choose
how
they
score
ram
is
very
interesting.
So
by
default
right
now,
everything
is
just
stored,
actually
like
in
the
name
of
the
in
the
ram
or
in
the
cache
of
the
of
the
node.
But
now
they
have
an
alternative
solution
where
you
can
just
store
all
the
state
data
on
the
hard
drive
or
ssd
by
default.
H
So
this
will
make
running
nodes
less
expensive,
but
if
a
block
producer
was
to
run
in
this
mode,
that
would
conceivably
increase
the
cpu
cost
to
run
transactions
because
it
would
actually
like
locally
when
running
the
transaction.
It
would
probably
run
more
slowly,
but
I
assume
that
the
block
producers
would
not
actually
use
this
feature.
At
least
that's
the
impression
I
get
from
reading
that
it's
more
for
api
providers
and.
B
B
H
E
H
J
So
I
am
very
happy
to
be
here
because
we
will
see
the
dots
connecting
because
for
myself
I
speak
just
for
myself,
myself
and
maybe
other
one
in
this
call.
Now
there
are
a
lot
of
values
and
there
are
not
only
monetary
value.
There
are
the
code.
Technology
value
is
unbeatable,
so
eosio
spark
contract
platform
is
just
the
better
smart
contract
platform
that
I
have
never
used.
J
J
I
think
we
we
cannot
undivide
block
one
that
is
providing
the
eosio
smart
contract
platform
and
the
eos
mainnet
that
was
launching
in
june
2018
by
a
hundred
people
that
was
very
bullish
on
the
os
main
net.
And
now,
if
you
see
the
eos
minute,
it's
just
perfect,
we
have,
on
top
of
the
lagos
minute,
a
lot
of
solutions
that
are
built
that
we
don't
speak.
J
There
are
a
lot
of
solutions
that
are
built
on
top
of
the
eos
magnet
and
it
is
very
accountable
to
build
on
top
of
the
eos
main
net,
because
this
is
the
most
liquidity
is
there
that
will
be
complicated
to
shut
down,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
liquidity.
There
is
no
single
point
of
failure.
This
is
very
intelligent,
smart
to
build
on
top
of
the
us
magnet
and
the
reason
that
the
bsn
and
diffuse
and
eos
nation
is
trying
the
eos
main
net.
J
It's
because
that's
the
better
public,
permissionless
blockchain
with
three
minutes
lib,
lib
and
look.
We
have
zero
five
seconds
for
the
block
time
and
we
have
three
seconds
on
boss.
So
it's
not
ridiculous
to
say
that
the
eos
magnet
could
reach
an
led
of
maybe
fast
zero
five
seconds.
So
imagine
imagine
the
day
where
the
eos
magnet
is
able
to
reach
0-5
seconds
also
for
the
lid
wu
will
not
build
defy
solution
on
the
eos
maintenance,
because
we
need
the
speed
not
only
the
block
time,
but
also
the
last
irreversible
block.
J
So
for
me,
that's
just
fantastic.
I
am
very
bullish
on
the
news
two
days
we
have
a
beautiful
news
yesterday,
also
and
the
fact
that
block
one
is
building
blockchain
as
a
service,
so
eosio
for
business
perfect
and
they
are
building
with
google
cloud
platform.
That
is
just
the
first
one
that
is
here.
There
will
be
other
platform.
J
Google
cloud
platform
is
fantastic
platform.
We
can
build
beautiful
application.
There
is
not
only
a
azure
or
aws,
so
a
google
cloud
platform
is
fantastic
after
that
that
the
communication
is
not
perfect,
I
think
they
are
building.
They
have
shut
their
mouth,
they
are
building
one
day
the
nariman
will
come
and
he
will
say
guys.
I
have
solved
that
and
all
here
we
will
say
whoa
that
will
be
fantastic.
So
they
are
resilient,
they
are
doing
their
job,
they
are
reliable
and
the
day
where
they
will
come.
B
A
B
I
D
H
J
Something
best
I
wanted
to
add
after
I
I
shut
my
mouth
and
I
go.
I
I
want
to
say
something
before
I
go
when
we
expect
a
date
on
the
things
we
we
can
forgive
we
can
forget
because
they
have
published
a
manifesto
block.
One
has
published
a
manifesto
is
the
strategic
vision.
They
have
not
put
a
date
for
each
step
or
milestone.
J
They
have
put
the
milestone
the
road,
but
it
is
software.
It
is
software.
When
you
are
in
the
software
engineering,
you
have
a
strategic
vision.
If
you
have
a
startup,
you
have
to
go
from
zero
to
one
and
when
you
have
reached
the
one
you
can
go
to
the
end
so
block
one
is
doing
exactly
what
do
an
innovation
innovative
company,
so
they
cannot
unveiled.
J
J
I
have
no
date
when
I
will
die.
Maybe
I
will
die
tomorrow
or
maybe
I
will
die
in
two
months.
I
don't
know
so
you
have
to
build.
You
have
to
order
your
your
coin.
For
me,
eos
is
a
utility
token
we
have
to
hold.
We
have
to
build
with
that.
This
is
not
the
monetary
value
it
is
building
building.
This
is
not
and
that
there
is
no
foundation
for
you
for
your
for
years.
That's
good
that
there
is
no
foundation
because
in
switzerland,
in
sub
we
have
pezos.
We
have
ethereum.
J
That
is
a
foundation.
We
have
the
cardamom
with
the
guy.
With
the
eagle
on
his
shoulder.
You
will
never
see
don
narimer
coming
with
with
an
eagle
on
his
shoulder.
He
is
very
respectable,
he's
a
man
he
can
do.
Sometimes
failure,
maybe
communicate
not
exactly
what
we
expected,
but
he
said
the
truth.
He
said
the
facts,
after
that
the
community
in
community
interpret
what
he
say,
but
what
he
say
is
exactly
what
is
happening.
He
don't
lie,
or
maybe
sometimes,
but
he
says
so
you
you
cannot
say,
imagine,
imagine
zack
or
imagine
chaining.
J
So
we
have
to
be
more
humble
and
also
the
years
midnight
that
this
is
an
experiment,
and
this
is
this
experiment
is
going
very
well
that
was
launching
in
june
2018,
the
14th
of
june
2018,
and
now
we
are
tour,
alph
and
e
to
alpha
here
with
this
main
net,
and
this
planet
is
bad.
No,
this
banette
is
good.
There
is
a
lot
of
application
built
on
top
after
that,
the
ear
solders.
I
am
not
a
new
solder,
so
I
cannot
speak.
I
am
a
developer,
but
the
rear
solder.
J
They
want
to
have
their
money,
it's
clear.
Maybe
they
are
disappointed
because
they
don't
know
when
it
will
come.
So
I
have
a.
I
have
an
advice.
Hold
your
all.
Your
token
make
a
sleep
come
in
three
months
and
there
will
be
something
because
if
you
are
each
every
day
following
and
expecting
that
the
money
will
come.
H
H
I
don't
know,
does
anyone
know
strong
hands
months
for
like
two
years
I
mean
I'm
not
interested
in
three
months
I
mean
it's
a
good
question,
like
the
code
that
came
out
today.
Let's
talk
about
that.
Let's
talk
about
what's
happening
right
now.
That
rahman
was
talking
about
there's
a
lot
more
interesting.
A
That's
that's
some,
some
of
them
a
little
bit
and
down
the
dumps
here
lately,
but
I
I
understand
zach.
What
do
we
have
left
on
the
agenda
we
want
to
talk
about?
You
want
to
pull
that
up
real,
quick
and
and
see
where
we
were
now
while
you're.
Looking
that
up,
I
will
we'll
put
a
shout
out
and
say
that
cryptowriter
is
now
doing
a
a
podcast
trying
to
get
a
once
a
day
out
there
on
youtube
and
we're,
hopefully
gonna
get
out
there
on
on
itunes,
etc.
A
B
I
mean
we
can
we've
been
going
for
like
two
hours.
I
don't
think
I
have
any
must-have
topics.
We
always
do
another
show.
I
think.
If
anyone
wants
to
speak,
I
mean
it's.
It's
been
the
same
four
or
five
as
much
as
this
time,
so
I
don't
want
to
hug
too
much
more
mic
time.
If
there's
other
people
that
want
to
kind
of
get
some
last
words
in.
H
H
I
mean
he
couldn't
say
it,
but
if
you
put
together
everything
he
was
saying
that
was
basically
it
because
he
was.
He
was
basically
like
the
only
way
to
make
the
msig
you
know
as
secure
to
to
benefit
from
the
network
hash
rate
of
the
bitcoin
network.
You
have
to
have
something
like
around.
Like
20
of
the
hash
power
or
more
of
the
mining
pools,
you
know
to
basically
reject
blocks
that
have
m-sigs
that
are
not
validated
on
the
eos
network.
So
this
is
what
I
think
they're
doing.
H
J
B
H
B
That
some
big-
I
forget
what
note
it
was
one
of
the
bitcoin
mining
pools,
said
like
they
were
gonna
blacklist,
certain
accounts
from
transacting
and
then
there's
new
regulation
coming
out.
That's
it
sounds
like
they're
trying
to
make
it
almost
illegal
for
ethereum
miners
to
process
stable
coin
transactions
if
they
regulated
stable
coins
and
required
a
money
transmitter
license
like
it
all.
Probably
ties
into
this.
H
Yeah
and
also
bloomer
yeah,
I
mean
bloomer
said
that
I
mean
I
remember
I
remember
he's
mentioned
on
twitter
a
few
times
that
he
has
bsv
or
right
yeah,
so
and
they're
all
about
you
know
pro
compliance
or
you
know
they
have
that
whole
rhetoric
that
you're
talking
about
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
involved.
B
I
mean
I,
I
think
the
thing
that
led
to
the
most
recent
like
bitcoin
dip,
was,
whenever
brian
armstrong
from
coinbase
put
out
that
tweet
thread
about
the
mandatory
aml
for
blockchain.
Any
non-custodial
blockchain
wallet
would
have
to
be
like
claimed
or
some
kyc
thing,
and
that
scared
the
out
of
people,
but
it
seems
like
if
that
regulation
were
to
go
through,
like
obviously
not
everyone's
gonna
love
it,
but
it
does
kind
of
put
eos
in
a
position
that
they
could
slap
on
that
identity
layer.
B
That
seems
like
it's
been
part
of
the
plan
from
day
one,
and
in
that
tweet
thread,
I
saw
ian
grigg
talking
about
it
and
he
was
one
of
the
block.
One
ogs,
building
out
this
system,
and
he
said
like
this-
was
something
everyone's
been
anticipating
it's
just.
If
it
happened
soon
like
before
the
trump
administration
leaves,
it
would
happen
about
two
years
earlier
than
anyone
anticipated.
But
it's
something
that
everyone
in
the
industry
is
anticipating
is
like
a
mandatory
like
aml
on
non-custodial
wallets
yeah.
B
But
that's
where
eos
so
eos
is
the
public
network.
You
have
all
of
these
institutions
on
their
private
blockchains
that
are
hashing
to
mainnet,
but
if
they
want
to
transact
between
each
other,
their
transactions
happen
on
the
public
network
to
go
from
institution
institution
or
from
bank
to
bank
or
exchange
to
exchange.
It
happens
on
the
public
network.
That's
the
purpose:
yeah
yeah.
B
K
H
I
don't
I
mean
this
is
pure
speculation
right,
but
if
they're
making
their
own
exchange
from
what
brendan
explained,
it
was
like
it
sounded
kind
of
like
almost
like
a
community
owned
exchange
where
everyone
gets
a
cut
of
the
fees
or
something
like
that.
Yeah
and
so
yeah.
That
sounds
like
it
would
be
a
private
chain,
but
in
order
to
get
liquidity,
it
would
need
to
be.
You
know,
properly
connected
with
other
genes
right.
K
Is
it
just
about
liquidity,
or
is
it
about
not
being
centrally
controlled,
because
I
think
libra
had
some
issues
with
being
everything
centrally
controlled
by
facebook?
Would
a
private
esio
chain
have
the
same
limitations
which
would
push
them
out
onto
either
something
like
eos
or
they
have
to
launch
something
else
which
is
basically
doing
the
same
thing
as
eos.
B
B
Yeah
I
try
to
hold
back
my
expectations
because
I've
been
overly
speculative
on
a
lot
of
things.
Thinking
everything
was
going
to
happen
with
eos
and
it's
kind
of
like
at
this
point.
I
I'm
hesitant
to
always
believe
that
everything's
going
to
happen
on
the
eos
main
that
it's
all
going
to
tie
in.
Somehow
I
don't
think
everything
will
tie
in.
B
I
think
eosio
is
its
own
business
model,
but
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
tie-ins
for
for
public
networks
and
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
these
private
chains
communicating
with
each
other.
I
I
just
don't
see
many
other
ways
to
do
it,
especially
if
you're
talking
about
value
being
transferred.
I
like
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know,
I'm
rambling
I've.
H
Yeah
I
mean
I
personally:
I've
been
surprised
that
we
haven't
seen
more
ibis,
like
native
system
level
ibc
between
all
eosio
chains,
which,
if
you
asked
me
like
a
year
ago,
I'd
be
like
yeah.
That
seems
like
it
would
be
pretty
high
priority
and
you
know,
based
on
the
white
paper
and
other
things
that
seems
like
eos's
design
like
eosio
the
way
it's
the
way
the
data
is
structured
in
the
box
is
designed
in
such
a
way
that
you
can
do
that
and
and
boss
built
it.
H
You
know,
based
on
you,
know,
a
blog
post
from
from
larimer,
but
their
solution
is
not.
I
mean
it's
not
a
hundred
percent
there,
but
it's
pretty
freaking
close.
So
I
was
really
surprised
that
we
just
haven't
heard
all
they've
talked
about
is
like
bitcoin
ibc
and
that's
it
you
know
so,
I'm
you
know
now.
B
Whenever
he's
talking
to,
I
think
one
of
the
shintai
developers
that
came
up
on
twitter,
but
besides
those
applications
which
which
they
do
have
an
ibc
between
public
or
private
private,
maybe
a
public
private
combination.
I
don't
know
if
they
could
do
public
public,
but
how
many
apple
is
there?
A
demand
for
that,
like
is
that,
like
we
get
this
ibc
nate,
if
it's
base
layer,
ibc
and
everyone's
able
to
talk
to
each
other
and
it's
great,
is
there
really
a
use
case
for
that?
Yet,
like.
H
Are
we
missing
out
on
anything
I
mean
just
the
ability
to
to
the
ability
to
seamlessly
like
move
token
like
tokens
and
nfts
between
chains,
you
know,
would
be
nice
like
I,
I
don't.
I
mean
obviously
it's
hard
to
put
a
number
on
how
valuable
that
is,
but
the
idea
that
you
could,
for
example,
build
an
application
that
runs
on
eos,
but
then
use
telos
or
wax
for
your
other
contracts.
Where
ram
is
cheaper
and
then
the
data
that's
stored
on
these
other
chains
could
be
trustlessly
swapped
like
cached
into
eos.
H
You
know
when
it's
needed
or
whatever
to
save
costs
and
scale
a
decentralized
application.
I
mean
yeah,
I
I
we
can
get
along
without
it
and
we
have
all
these
different
solutions,
but
they
all
have
you
know
various
security
performance,
trade-offs
and
because
they're
not
like
system
level,
people
don't
know
if
they
can
trust
them
and
all
these
kinds
of
things.
So
I
don't
know,
maybe
I've
to
me
personally.
It
feels
like.
Maybe
it
was
a
missed
opportunity.
K
If,
as
I
would
imagine,
use
cases
like
for
voice,
for
example,
they
might
want
to
have
one
of
the
chains
where
they
want
to
be
able
to
prune
off
certain
parts
of
the
blockchain,
because
anything
that
goes
on
to
the
blockchain
is
there
forever.
But
if
you
have
private
data
or
you
know
identifiable
data
on
there,
eventually,
you
might
need
to
delete
that
so
there's
a
use
case
there
to
have
ibc
but
there's
a
very
important
use
case
to
be
able
to
prune
or
delete
or
remove
things
from
there,
including
from
the
blockchain
logs.
B
Yeah,
it
makes
sense
for
having
some
chains
be
private,
just
hashing,
you
can
only
see
the
hash,
you
don't
know
what
the
data
is
and
some
of
them
being
more
public.
That
makes
sense.
The
other
thing
that's
not
really
talked
about
is
working
groups
within
block
one
in
the
community.
I
don't
know
how
many
there
are
that
I'm
not
privy
to
all
of
them,
but
it's
been
made
public
that
there's
some
sort
of
privacy
working
group
going
on
with
block
one
and
some
community
teams.
B
H
Hyperledger
has
that
so
yeah,
so
there's
thinking
that
block
one
is
probably
looking
at
their
competitors
in
the
enterprise
blockchain
space
and
seeing
you
know
what
do
we
not
have
that
they
do
have?
I
think
evm
was
one
of
them
right
that
they
felt
like
that
was
missing
when
they
were
having
their
talk.
So
that's
why
they,
they
sponsored
the
community
to
do
that,
which
I
felt
was
a
really
cool
program.
They
should
do
that
more
right,
like
put
up
bounties
for
the
community
to
build
stuff
for
eos.
B
B
Man,
like
some
global
conference,
hackathon
everything
tied
together,
and
that
would
be
amazing,
but
dan
mentioned
at
one
point
like
an
x
prize
like
contest,
where
it's
kind
of
like
a
longer
hackathon,
where
it's
like
many
teams,
fighting
for
like
some
giant
prize
to
so
like
are
any
of
you
guys
familiar
enough
with
x
prize
to
actually
explain
what
it
is,
because
I'll
probably
it
up.
If
I
try
it's
something
that
netflix
did.
B
No,
I
don't
know
it's
kind
of
like
a
longer
term
hackathon,
where
everyone's
trying
to
solve
the
same
problems.
But
the
prize
is
just
so
big
that
multiple,
like
highly
skilled
teams,
are
willing
to
put
a
lot
of
skin
in
the
game
to
solve
some
of
the
like
world's
biggest
problems
like
netflix.
Did
it
to,
I
think,
optimize
their
suggestion?
B
Algorithm
like
there
was
like
20
different
teams
across
the
world,
all
fighting
for
this,
like
multi-million
dollar
prize,
to
make
the
absolute
best
most
accurate
suggestion
algorithm
that
could
possibly
be
made
for
netflix
like,
and
that
would
be
something
cool
for
us.
I
don't
know
what
the
game-changing
problem
would
be
that
they're
trying
to
solve,
but
maybe,
if
they're
maybe
could
be
the
ibc,
maybe
it
could
be
something
bigger.
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
that
was
something
that
dan
had
in
mind
with
evm
contest.
It's
just
the
execution
didn't
quite
look
like
that.
B
B
H
I
mean
no
one
in
eosio
wants
to
write
solidity
and
no
one
in
the
ethereum
space
wants
to
run
their
code
on
on
esio
yeah
right
so
yeah,
and
it's
like
why
don't
you
just
rewrite
it
into
c
plus
plus?
If
you
really
want
to
run
it
on
eos,
that's
probably
much
better
so
yeah,
I
don't,
but
you
know
for
enterprise
or
whatever
they're
like
oh
well.
We
were
using
this
enterprise
ethereum
thing:
how
do
we
run
our
enterprise
blockchain
thing
on
eos?
Oh
well,
here's
you
know
a
solution.
We
have
for
you
there.
B
B
H
Yeah,
the
well
ethereum
has
all
these
zk
roll
up
scaling
solutions.
There's
there's
might
I
mean
there
might
be
six
by
now
and
you
know
based
on
similar
concepts,
but
with
various
trade-offs.
You
know,
so
it
makes
sense
that
you
could
see
like
an
eosio
chain
running
evm
as
a
scaling
solution,
but
I
think
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
that
has
to
be
done
in
order
for
that
to
actually
be
usable
and
it
seems
like
no
one
cares
and
no
one
wants
to
put
in
the
work
to
make
it
happen.
B
So
you
can't
really
run
zk
roll
ups.
You
can't
run
that
on
eos,
even
with
an
evm,
because
they're
so
computationally
intensive,
there
are
limitations
to
what
evm
can
do
and
stuff
like
zk
rule
ups
is
one
of
them,
but
you
just
brought
up
something
I
mentioned
a
couple
weeks
ago
like
we
saw
what
happened
with
ethereum
in
the
summer
whenever
all
the
gas
prices
went
crazy.
B
We
saw
what
happened
with
the
crypto
kitty
stuff.
I
think
that's
what
we're
going
to
see
again
like
we're
at
the
early
stages
of
a
bull
market.
Hopefully
it
goes
for
years.
Hopefully
never
stops,
but
realistically
it's
going
to
should
go
at
least
for
a
year
and
there's
going
to
be
a
time
when
ethereum's
just
going
to
grind
to
a
halt
again,
even
if
it's
still
running
it's
going
to
be
so
expensive
to
run
and
the
solutions
for
all
of
these
d5
projects.
B
They're
all
looking
at
these
layer,
two
solutions
on
ethereum,
but
the
biggest
issue
with
the
layer
twos
on
ethereum,
is
that
they
lose
one
of
the
biggest
superpowers
of
ethereum
d5
is
the
composability
yeah,
the
composability
between
applications?
The
fact
that
you
could
create
a
flash
loan,
we
talked
about
flashlights
at
the
very
beginning
of
this
conversation.
B
B
If
all
of
the
ethereum
applications
have
to
move
to
layer,
twos
one
they're,
all
gonna
move
to
different
diff,
there's
some
big
ones:
there's
zk
roll-ups,
there's
optimistic
roll-ups
and
then
there's
a
few
like
lesser-known
ones.
X-Die,
none
of
them
are
interoperable
with
each
other.
Even
the
same
ones
aren't
interoperable
an
optimistic
roll-up
project
can't
they
have
no
ibc
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
communication
with
other
optimistic
roll-up
projects.
B
So
as
soon
as
the
network
starts
congesting
on
ethereum
again,
there's
gonna
be
two
options:
you're
gonna
have
to
pay
the
piper
and
pay
in
these
exorbitant
fees
to
continue
using
ethereum
d5,
with
the
composability
that
you're
used
to
or
you're
gonna
have
to
move
to
a
layer
two
which
is
going
to
lower
the
transaction
cost.
It's
gonna
increase
throughput,
but
you're
gonna
lose
all
of
the
composability
across
the
different
dapps
in
the
ecosystem,
yeah.
B
So
when
that
happens,
eos
with
a
layer,
one
that
can
scale
faster
than
any
other
chain
out
there,
it's
just
and
we're
building
up
all
of
this
foundational
infrastructure.
All
of
these
swaps,
the
the
eos
nation
stuff,
the
stuff
like
the
gravy
train,
with
like
automated
arbitrage
and
things
like
the
the
dap
account
dao
and
all
all
this
stuff
being
built.
It's
gonna
be
primed
and
ready.
We
got
eos
finex,
we've
got
p
tokens,
we've
got
whatever
block
one's
financial
product
is.
Hopefully
it
ties
in
with
eos.
B
Somehow
it's
just
gonna
be
primed
and
ready,
and
I
think
that
there's
a
good
chance
that
good
things
are
gonna
happen
in
2021
and
like
it's
impossible
for
ethereum
to
not
like
suck.
I
I
don't.
I
don't
like
you
you
when
you
lose
the
composability
between
the
applications
like
yeah.
You
still
got
a
bunch
of
money
in
there,
but
the
the
super
power
is
that
you
could
do
all
of
this
stuff
and
and
make
them
work
together,
and
that's
something
that
we
haven't
really
seen
from
eos.
B
Yet
we
don't
see
projects
that
are
completely
unaffiliated
with
each
other,
integrating
with
each
other
like
we're,
seeing
it
with
wi-fi
on
ethereum
like
they're.
Just
like,
I
don't
even
know
what
you
call
them:
they're,
not
mergers
and
acquisitions,
but
they're,
basically
like
they're,
combining
developer
talents
and
skills
and
basically
forming
like
a
singular
like
vision
and
roadmap
that
aligns
the
the
roadmaps
of
multiple
d5
projects
that
they
could
all
work
together
and
we're
not
really
seeing
that
on
eos
and
you
are
seeing
it
on
ethereum.
H
B
So
that's
all
going
to
happen
like
I
have
no
doubt
about
it.
It's
going
to
happen
it's
just.
How
long
is
it
going
to
take
the
migrations
to
happen?
Other
chains
like
eos
polkadot
solana
and
all
these
other
chains,
like
how
long
is
it
going
to
take
for
the
migrations
to
happen
and
when
they
do,
which
ones
are
they
going
to
choose?
And
why
and
I
think
if
things
continue
to
develop
on
eos
block,
one
keeps
putting
out
kick-ass
code
like
I
I
expect
yeah
like
I
was
expecting
eocyto
3.0
to
come
out
this
year.
B
B
K
K
B
I
agree
100
think
about
it
on
ethereum,
it's
almost
like
a
prisoner's
dilemma
for
all
these
any
coin
that
you've
mined
on
ethereum
you
have.
This
like
dilemma
of,
like
you
want
to
take
profits,
but
to
take
profits
is
going
to
cost
you
like
10
bucks,
so
you
got
more
more
small
hodlers
because
they
have
to
because
they
can't
even
take
a
profit
if
they
want
to,
whereas
on
eos
it
seems
like
everyone's
just
dumps,
their
mining
profits
and
it's
because
they
can.
So
it's
like.
B
H
H
So
there's
these
off-chain
voting
solutions
for
a
lot
of
ethereum
projects
where
you
sign
with
your
ethereum
key,
but
you
don't
broadcast
it
with
the
network
and
that's
to
us
in
eos
we're
just
like.
Why
would
you
do
that?
It
costs
you
like
nothing
to
put
it
on
chain,
so
we
might
as
well
put
it
on
chain
right.
H
So
yeah
we're
we're
super
spoiled
on
this
chain,
and
I
hope
that
you
know
the
rest
of
the.
I
don't
even
care
if
the
rest
of
the
blockchain
ecosystem
kind
of
realizes
that,
because
you
know
this
thing,
this
technology,
it's
it's
designed
to
scale
outside
of
the
blockchain
echo
chamber
right,
we're
trying
to
build
real
applications
for
real
people.
H
K
On,
I
think
that's
on
eos,
or
is
it
on
your
side?
You
have
a
token
on
here,
yep
yeah,
so
that
that's
tracking
your
fitness
and
all
these
sorts
of
things
and
all
these
other
apps,
like
actual
micro
transactions,
which
we
all
raved
about
with
bitcoin
many
many
years
ago,
is
actually
possible
on
eos,
like
small
transactions.
B
No,
so
that's
a
feature.
Well,
someone
was
spamming.
The
network
and
kind
of
making
some
sort
of
exploit
out
of
that,
but
with
an
eos,
eos
io
transaction
like
have
you
ever
seen
like
the
transactions
like
on
some
of
the
arbitrage
where
it's
like
30,
if
you
look
at
the
traces
on
a
block
exploits
like
31
different,
like
smaller
transactions,
packed
into
a
single
one,
so
on
esio,
whenever
you
make
a
transaction
like
that
say,
you
have
31
steps
to
the
transaction.
B
Your
transaction
will
walk
through
every
single
step
along
the
way
off
like
through
the
api
node,
not
on
chain,
but
as
soon
as
it
hits
hits
a
spot
like
in
this
case,
it's
not
profitable,
like
with
a
like
how
eve
described
the
flash
loan
or
an
arbitrage
trade
as
soon
as
it's
calculated
that
the
trade's
not
profitable,
the
transaction
just
fails,
and
it
never
shows
up
on
the
blockchain.
Is
that
what
you're
talking
about
that's
a
kind
of
like
a
save
computational
resources
of
the
network?
It's
only
really
affecting
the
api
nodes
which
you.
E
B
That's
one
of
the
best
features
obvious
like
the
dap
network
relies
on
that
feature
like
whenever
you
get
that
failed
transaction.
There's,
basically
like
kind
of
like
an
internal
like
error,
message
handler
and
that's
actually
like
flips
on
the
switch
to
use
a
dsp
instead
of
a
block
producer
endpoint.
So
like
there's
a
lot
of
other
cool
stuff,
that's
built
on
top
of
that
feature,
including
the
flash
loans
that
eve
eve
described
last
week
or
the
other.
H
Well,
what
was
happening
was
well
basically
like
when
you
submit
a
transaction
to
a
node.
It
runs
the
transaction
to
make
sure
that
it's
valid
if
it
doesn't
fail,
if
it's
a
block
producer
and
it
doesn't
fail,
it
tries
to
put
it
in
a
block.
So
the
bug
that
was
resolved
was
that
when
it
was
run
speculatively
before
it
was
put
in
a
block,
it
was
successful,
but
when
they
tried
to
put
it
in
a
block,
it
was
an
infinite
loop
or
something
like
that.
That's
my
understanding
of
that.
B
B
I
B
J
Anyone
something
that
I
love
us
beside
the
eos
io
ecosystem
is
that
we
have
this
adapt
network.
But
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
place
to
speak
about
that
network.
But
for
me
it's
just
abstract
layer
where
the
developer
is
comfortable
to
to
develop,
because
it
is
not
directly
with
the
operating
system,
because
the
eos
minute
for
me
is
like
an
operator,
an
operating
system
and
if
you
developing,
are
developing
directly
in
front
of
the
operating
system,
you
will
be
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
crazy
as
a
developer.
J
So
when
you
have
an
abstract
layer,
middleware
like
that
network.
For
me,
it's
just
a
perfect
solution,
but
that's
maybe
another
goal,
but
I
I
love
this
entire
egg.
For
me,
the
dap
network,
on
top
of
the
eosio
ecosystem
and
communicating
with
other
blockchain
protocols
like
a
terrarium
like
bitcoin
and
solana
or
mother.
B
B
J
Also
something
we
say:
we
need
more
communication,
we
need
more
yeah,
be
together,
build
together
the
the
the
trusted
web.
Like
said,
for
example,
sebastian
van
der
laans
build
the
trusted
web
together,
so
build
eos
together,
so
we
have
to
to
to
make
maybe
more
education.
Also,
you
do
a
fantastic
job
that
go
zach.
You
are
fantastic
on
this
side.
You,
you
are
merging
the
the
the
troops.
You
are,
the
you
are
fantastic
for
that
and
yeah.
J
If
we
do
more,
like
let's
say
meetups
workshops
myself,
I
do
workshops
here.
I
love
that
so
I
have
planned
a
six
workshop
on
the
next
year,
but
another
call
for
that,
but
I
love
to
do
to
educate,
and
maybe
we
have
to
explain
the
things.
Sometimes
the
things
are
explained
a
little
bit
too
much
into
the
detail
and
for
some
people
that
have
not
no,
I
would
say
no
experience
with
the
code.
They
will
not
make
the
the
neural
link
the
the
the
link.
J
J
We
we
have
to
explain
that
to
like
a
movie
that
the
the
people
understand
that
this
is
not
only
value
monetary.
There
are
also
societal
and
technological
dimensions,
not
only
the
economical
dimension,
so
everyone
we
have
our
value.
So
maybe
we
have
to
to
be
more
yeah,
more
general
when
we
speak
with
myself.
B
Not
technical
enough
to
explain
it
to
other
people,
so
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
what
I
try
to
do
whenever
I
like
have
technical
guests
is
I
try
to
have
a
conversation,
a
way
that
I
understand,
because
if
I
understand
I
assume
the
audience
can
understand
too
exactly
and
it's
very
important
to
have
that
non-technical
lens,
because
sometimes
you
just
get
lost
in
the
weeds.
You
don't
see
the
big
picture,
because
it's
just
too
technical
for
most
people's
minds
to
wrap
their
mind.
The
concepts
are
too
abstract
to
wrap
their
minds
around
you.
B
J
B
K
B
I've
believed
this
whole
time
all
right,
guys
we
keep
having
people
pop
off.
This
call.
I
think
we
gotta
end
it
with
a
go
east.
If
you've
got
a
drink,
we
could
do
a
toast,
but
I
think
it's
time
guys
unless
anyone
has
one
any
last
words.
I
think
we're
gonna
end
this
on
a
three
two
one
go
eos
right,
yep,
three,
two
one.