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From YouTube: The Greatest Everything EOS Episode Ever. 2020 Speculation and Rumors Marathon Edition.
Description
What is going on with EOS and what can be expected over the short and long term?
Zack Gall (LiquidApps.io) is joined by Yves La Rose (EOS Nation), Chaney Moore (CryptoWriter), and MaxShill (Legend) to discuss all of the latest news, speculation, and rumors surrounding EOS, EOSIO, Block.one, Voice, and more!
EOSwriter: Reading between the Blocks: Pure EOS Moonboi Speculation 1st Edition
https://app.voice.com/post/@chaney/eoswriter-reading-between-the-blocks-pure-eos-moonboi-speculation-1st-edition-1597185226-1
Cryptopopcorn: Max is Right! EOS 10+ Trillion Market Cap by 2030 Confirmed
https://app.voice.com/post/@max/cryptopopcorn-max-is-right-eos-10-trillion-market-cap-by-2030-confirmed-1595956168-1
EOS Hot Sauce
https://eosnation.io/category/hot-sauce/
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A
B
C
E
B
A
Gone
thanks
for
having
us
here
today,
yeah.
I
appreciate
all
you
guys
coming
and
I
am
apologies
to
everyone
in
the
live
audience
we
had
like
95
people
waiting
at
the
original
link.
It
did
exactly
what
I
was
worried
about.
The
link
changed
whenever
I
pushed
the
live
button.
I'm
sorry
everyone!
So
hopefully,
since
this
intro
is
a
little
bit
long,
people
can
catch
up
and
find
their
way
to
the
new
channel.
Just
for
anyone
watching
in
the
live
audience.
A
B
A
All
right,
so
I
think
we
we
gotta
kind
of
just
ease
into
the
topics
for
today.
I
I
think
we
could
start
this
off
by
saying
like
where
we've
been
for
the
last
couple
months,
at
least.
Maybe
even
you
can
go
back
to
a
year,
the
lack
of
spark
in
the
eos
community.
It's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
been
boring.
I'd
say
for
a
little
bit
now,
there's
still
stuff
being
built,
but
I
think
what's
been
going
on.
A
Is
people
are
kind
of
looking
outside
of
the
ecosystem,
seeing
some
of
the
stuff
happening
on
ethereum
and
d5
they're,
getting
a
little
upset.
Looking
around
like
what's
going
on
here,
we
talked
about
this
before
we
went
on
on
the
show
and
like
I
personally
point
to
around
this
time
last
year,
when
brendan
and
dan
got
off
of
telegram
when
they
left
telegram
and
stopped
talking
with
the
community.
A
I
think
it
kind
of
like
took
the
wind
out
a
little
bit
because,
like
me
and
rob
used
to
follow
all
of
that
stuff
and
talk
about
it,
anytime
dan
would
come
in
and
say
something.
We'd
have
something
to
talk
about.
For
a
week,
it
wouldn't
matter
even
if
dan
was
going
on
about
his
vaccine
stuff
and
we're
like
making
fun
of
him
or
whatever
it's
something
to
talk
about.
It's
engagement.
Making
fun
of
people
is
what
a
community
is
like.
A
B
B
We
had
a
method
for
communicating
and
whether
it's
because
of
the
sec
agreement,
whether
it's
because
of
b1
legal,
whether
it's
because
of
some
other
concerns
about
trying
to
secure
you,
know
four
billion
dollars
to
make
sure
it's
there
to
use
in
the
future
fine,
but
that
disappeared
that
part
of
the
community
disappeared
and
dan
put
out
a
tweet,
not
too
long.
He
says
I
entirely
agree.
It.
Tech
without
community
is
nothing.
B
What
kind
of
community
waits
around
for
someone
else
to
make
their
token
valuable
it's
time
for
the
eos
commute
to
step
up
and
block.
One
will
do
his
part
as
an
eos
community.
Member
that
you
know
what
dan
you
were
here.
First
brendan
you
were
here.
First,
you
were
here
before
block.
One
was
a
member
of
the
community.
We
were
a
community
together,
okay
and
you
guys
disappeared
off
the
face
of
the
earth
and
it
was
all
hashtag
eosio,
okay.
B
E
I
actually
I
so
the
tweet
you're,
referring
to
when
I
first
read
it.
I
took
it
exactly
as
as
I
would
imagine
you
just
took
it
based
on
on
the
little
rant
that
you
did
when
I
thought
about
it,
a
little
bit
more
going
back
to
how
dan
writes.
I
don't
think
that
was
meant
to
say
I
and,
and
maybe
dan
is
not
the
best
person.
I
don't
think
that
was
meant
to
put
it
on
the
community's
shoulders.
E
F
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
anyone
that
that
was
disappointed
when
you're
disappointed
about
something
it's
based
off
of
expectations.
Right
and
people
have
to
remember,
I
mean
just
building
a
video
game,
a
triple
a
video
game.
It
takes
two
three
four
years,
sometimes
so
how?
How
fast
did
these
guys
expect
block
one
to
change
the
world
right?
It's
it's!
B
I
don't
know
if
it
was
expectations
for
me.
I
think
it
was.
You
know
the
expectations
had
been
set.
All
along
the
expectation
was
sharing,
the
expectation
was
talking,
the
expectation
was
a
discourse
in
the
community
and
when
they
shut
down
telegram
and
then
they
even
stopped
communicating
on
twitter
and
even
writing
a
bunch
of
stuff
about
what
their
plans
were
for
eos,
you
know
it.
We
felt
like
we
had
the
rug
pulled
out
from
underneath
us
and
we
felt,
like
you
know,
we've
been
blocked.
D
E
C
B
I'm
not
a
developer
here.
I
am
doing
a
podcast
here.
I
am
writing.
You
know
what.
Then
someone
failed
in
the
communication,
whether
that
was
bps
or
developers
or
what,
but
that
that
was
gone.
You
know
brendan
bloomer
wasn't
in
github
telling
me
about.
What's
happened
like
he
was
the
previous
two
years.
A
It
was
just
a
change
it
like
was
like
a
switch,
was
turned
one
day
and
it
made.
Maybe
it
was
the
sec,
but
it
was
like
at
one
point,
a
a
switch
was
flipped
and
the
communication
changed
like
we
can
argue
about
the
specifics
of
what
changed,
but
something
changed
at
some
point
in
the
last
year
and
very
recently,
there's
been
a
spark
and
thank
you
for
all
we're
over
100
people
in
the
live
stream,
and
I
know
since
we
left
the
channel,
I
lost
all
those
likes
you
guys
gave.
A
So
if
you
guys
can
give
it
a
little
little
thumbs
up
we'll
get
into
this
and
I'll
get
into
what
started.
This
spark
we're
lingering
around.
So
I
don't
like
to
talk
about
price,
but
we're
about
to
get
into
max's
spark
here
and
we're
lingering
around
in,
like
the
2.50
2.60
2.40
range,
then
all
of
a
sudden
max
show
makes
a
post
on
the
eos
writer
and
he
makes
a
bold
prediction.
A
C
Well,
you
know
I'm
a
I'm
a
reasonable
man,
you
know
I
I
don't
exaggerate.
I
I
just
make
accurate
correct
predictions
right
and
10
trillion.
It
may
sound
like
a
lot
right.
It
sounds
insane,
but
that's
there's
two
sides
to
eat
to
that
equation:
it's
not
just
about
what
eos
does
it's
about
what
the
us
dollar
does
right.
So
what
what's
the
us
dollar
gonna
do
in
the
next
10
years?
C
Well,
it
value
is
determined
by
what's
supply
and
demand
right,
so
the
supply
side
is
getting
flooded
by
printers
going
crazy
right
and
that's
for
the
first
year
foreseeable
future
and
then
the
the
demand
side
most
of
the
demand
for
the
us
dollar.
It's
it's
in
the
world
trade
denominated
in
the
us
dollar
and
it's
in
countries
debt
being
denominated
in
the
us
dollar,
and
you
can
bet
your
ass
that
countries
are
trying
to
find
a
solution
to
to
get
out
of
that
system
right.
C
So
that's
tens
of
trillions
of
dollars
of
demand
for
the
us
dollar
that
will
probably
evaporate
in
the
next.
You
know
10
20
years
at
some
point,
and
so
you
combine
those
two
factors.
That's
extremely
bearish
and
everything
in
10
years
might
be
worth
many
trillions
of
dollars.
We
don't
know
right,
there's
something's
going
to
happen,
so
so
that's
that
side
of
the
equation
and
then
you
got
eos
and
you
know
what
our
country's
gonna
replace
the
usd
with
it's.
C
A
C
No,
I
get
so
many
messages.
Thinking
I'm
joking
around.
No
I'm
dead
seriously.
You
know-
and
it's
it's
a
bold
prediction
for
sure,
but
I
don't
think
it's
it's
impossible
right.
It's
10
years
is
a
long
time
and
the
u.s
dollar
to
me
is
very
bearish
and
eos
is
extremely
bullish
right.
We
I,
I
just
said
that
obviously
crypto
is
going
to
take
over
the
world.
It's
the
next
evolution
of
money.
Every
type
of
money
ever
has
at
an
expiration
date,
and
so
why
why
eos?
C
Well,
you
know
in
the
future
there's
going
to
be
successful,
centralized
cryptos
and
successful
decentralized,
cryptos
right.
We
know
there's
going
to
be
successful,
decentralized
ones
that
the
market
has
spoken
on.
That
or
btc
would
not
have
value,
and
then
that
I
mean
the
one
with
the
best
technologies
is
eos.
I
mean
it's.
C
A
He
invented
the
first
stable
coin
and
then
some
of
the
people
that
worked
within
bitshares
to
create
the
bitusd
they
went
on
to
found
maker
dao,
which
is
one
of
the
biggest
projects
on
ethereum
right
now.
So
it
did
a
lot
of
this
defy
revolution
that
we've
been
seeing
over
the
last
two
years.
I
do
agree
that
you
can
go
back
to
2014
and
look
at
that,
but
I'm
gonna
cut
you
off
on
your
10
trillion
dollar
prediction,
because
people
want
to
hear
about
what's
what's
to
come
here
and
so
a
couple.
B
Sure
I'll
I'll
do
that
and
just
real
quickly,
just
shout
out
to
some
people
that
they're
asking
us
questions
and
making
comments.
Real
quick
you've
got
adriana
mendez,
cypher
glass.
I
believe
right
out
there
saying
you
know
even
yourself,
I'm
fine
committing
the
time,
but
not
when
it
seems
like
they
abandoned
the
network.
There
you
go.
You
know
here
we
have
cypher
glass,
a
block
producer,
you
know
your
old
alma
mater
a
little
bit.
B
B
B
All
right
so
you're
right
so
real
quickly.
What
we
did
is
we
were
talking
about.
You
know.
What's
going
on
the
market,
we
started
seeing
some
positive
tweets,
some
positive
information,
and
so
we
try
to
go
back
and
look
at
what
happened
recently.
What's
changed
and
honestly,
I
believe
and
we'll
talk
about
in
a
minute
I'll
get
to
it,
but
I
believe
potentially,
there's
been,
maybe
a
change.
Maybe
the
sec
agreement
is
over.
B
I
don't
know,
maybe
maybe
b1
legal
team
just
decided
that
we're
out
of
out
of
any
sort
of
trouble
here
and
that
maybe
maybe
brendan,
maybe
dan
could
start
using
the
us
hashtag
and
maybe
start
talking
to
the
eos
community
a
little
bit
there
eaves.
I
see
you
making
a
little
bit
of
a
face
over
there
and.
F
B
B
E
A
combination,
I
think,
of
everything
that
you've
mentioned
a
time
and
place
people
so
and
I'll
I'll
really
give
a
little
bit
of
context
here.
I
think
the
way
that
I'm
reading
the
comments
that
people
are
making
the
way
that
I'm
reading
the
feedback
based
on
the
tweets
that
I'm
making
or
that
brendan's
making
or
the
dance
making
or
whoever's
making
right
now.
I
think
people
have
the
tendency
right
now
to
point
it
to
one
thing
and
just
one
thing
like
it
must
be
one
thing.
E
But
when
you
look
at
the
bigger
picture,
it's
multiple
pieces
falling
along
into
place
that
are
creating
something
that
is
much
bigger
than
its
parts
and
yes,
those
individual
pieces.
Some
of
them
in
particular,
are
insane
that
it
really
is
crazy
and
it's
amazing
in
its
own
right,
but
what's
more
amazing
is
everything
coming
together
and
that's
what
I
think
is
lost
a
little
bit
in
the
rumors
and
the
projections
and
the
shills
right
now.
It's
there
must
be
a
one
thing:
it's
gonna
be
a
one.
E
You
know
one
news:
one
announcement,
one
piece
of
information
that
that's
gonna
do
everything
together
and
really,
if
you've
ever
read,
for
example,
tipping
point
by
malcolm
gladwell,
it's
a
time
and
a
place
where
everything
in
a
way
kind
of
aligns
together.
But
there's
not
one
piece
of
information,
necessarily
that
that
linked
everything.
But
yes
that
particular
time
and
place
then
just
put
everything
together
and
we
are,
in
my
opinion,
at
that
time
and
place
right
now.
Okay,
for.
E
And
certain
things
are
public
and
certain
things
aren't
public
and,
as
a
number
one
ranked
vp
imagine
that
when
well,
whether
whether
it's
us
or
whoever
is
in
in
ranking,
you
can
imagine
that
if
enterprises
are
looking
for
consultation
or
they're
looking
to
do
something
who
are
they
going
to
reach
out
to
the
natural
person
you're
going
to
reach
out
to
other
people
that
are
out
there
and
that
that
are
you
know
that
that
have
been
trusted
or
that
have
been.
You
know,
vouched
by
the
community
and
so
yeah.
E
We
hear
a
lot
of
information
from
different
sources
and
then
my
capacity
and
part
of
our
greatest
superpower
is
putting
all
of
that
information
together
and
seeing
holy.
This
is
what's
happening.
This
is
the
direction
that
we're
that
we're
going
in
and
over
the
last
two
years
for
those
who
have
been
following
you've.
Never
heard
me
chill
about
anything
like
give
me
a
break,
I'm
always
very
conservative.
E
So
if
I
now
suddenly
change,
something
must
be
going
on
and
a
big
part
of
what
I've
been
saying
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
is
that
we've
been
laying
the
foundations
we're
putting
up
the
plumbing,
we're
laying
out
the
electrical
we're
you
know,
putting
the
plywoods
up
for
the
walls
we're
putting
the
installation
if
you
live
in
canada,
you
need
some
insulation
between
the
walls
and
it.
We
are
at
a
point
right
now,
where
that's
done
and
we're
now.
Finally
designing
the
kitchen
we're
putting
pictures
up
on
the
wall.
E
E
Well,
so
there
okay,
so
there
is
one,
so
you
asked-
and
this
is
not
necessarily
for
block
one
and
another
thing.
Everybody
thinks
that
whatever
I'm
referring
to
has
to
do
with
block
one.
That's
I'm
not
sure
why
that
would
be
the
case.
It
does
not
exclude
that.
Maybe
block
one
is
doing
things,
but
why
does
everything
have
to
do
with
block
one?
E
I
think
it's
about
a
year
ago.
I
think
it's
when
eos
venex
was
in
preparation
for
the
first
launch
of
eosinox
five
million
dollars
worth
of
usdt
eos
was
printed
and
was
put
on
chain
that
five
million
dollars
has
sat
idle
for
a
year
literally
nobody's
used
it.
I
think
we
were
as
eos
nation
one
of
our
one
of
our
founding
members.
E
Denis
had
something
like
300
worth,
and
he
was
literally
the
largest
holder
of
usdt
okay,
two
weeks
ago,
in
one
day,
40
of
that
5
million
dollars
moved
and
since
then,
every
single
day
we've
seen
massive
volume
of
movements.
We
have
a
an
sx
bullet,
swapped.sx
pool
and
in
the
last
two
weeks,
or
so,
we've
been
averaging
more
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
volume
per
day
every
day
on
fifty
thousand
dollar
liquidity.
We've
had
some
days
where
we've
had
more
than
three
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
volume.
This
is
all
on.
E
But
it's
going
to
be
bitterness.
The
issuer
will
have
no
choice
but
to
issue
more
usdt
on
eos,
more
liquidity,
onyas.
So
eos
is
a
liquid
token,
but
liquidity
on
eos
has
been
an
issue
over
the
last
two
years
and
we've
seen
that
in
the
last
two
weeks
that
has
actually
depleted
liquidity
pools.
I
think
it
was.
Last
friday
we
literally
ran
out
of
usdt
on
eos.
There
was
no
more
usdt
on
eos,
you
couldn't
you
couldn't
find
it
anywhere.
C
E
Well,
so,
obviously
again
because
we're
a
bp
when,
when
corporations
or
when
government
entities
or
educational
institutions
reach
out,
were
privy
to
a
lot
of
that
because
they
want
to
know
hey,
I'm
thinking
of
deploying
acts
on
the
offer,
I'm
thinking
of
doing
this
on
eos.
How
would
I
do
it?
Can
I
hire
you
to
help
me
out?
E
E
E
If
that's
the
word
of
government
infrastructure
and
we've
been
a
part
of
these
things,
these
boards-
I
guess
for
a
while
and
eos-
is
the
only
token
that
is
represented
or
the
only
project
that
is
represented,
because
the
only
one
that
is
capable
of
actually
being
utilized
within
regulatory
bodies-
and,
I
guess
yeah
pub
public
public
services
yeah.
So
how
did
they
know
about
it?
Well,
it's
a
combination.
E
All
like
one
thing:
that's
public
that
we've
been
working
on
for
a
very
long
time,
which
is
also
one
of
the
key
pieces
of
information.
All
of
this
is
that
eos
nation
has
a
a
partnership
with
universities
within
quebec,
the
university
of
sherbrooke
in
particular.
I
don't
know
if
max
knows
of
the
university
of
sherbrooke.
It's.
E
Of
montreal,
all
right,
okay,
so
university
of
montreal
is
one
of
the
other
members
that
we're
talking
about,
for
example,
and
over
the
last
year,
we've
had
we've
had
an
internship
program.
So
on
the
fourth
year
of
software,
engineering's
of
software
engineering
students
bachelor
program,
the
fourth
year
is
an
internship
program
and
we've
had
14
students
with
us
over
the
last
year,
the
whole
year,
full-time,
they're,
doing
an
internship
at
eos
nation
and
they
code
for
us
they're
developing
projects
for
us.
E
There's,
there's
two
different
groups
of
seven
students,
doing
amazing
work
for
over
the
last
year,
and
they
heard
about
it
because
we
applied
for
these
programs
and
because
we
applied
for
those
programs,
then
it
gets
funded
by
the
government
and
because
it
gets
funded
by
the
government
that
the
government
starts
asking
questions
hey.
What
am
I
funding
and
what
is
this
eos?
And
that
leads
to
one
thing
with
that
leads
to
another,
and
then
you
get
pulled
into
deeper
and
deeper
into
the
rabbit
hole.
E
But
this
is
not
something
that
can
happen
on
bitcoin
or
on
the
theorem,
because
you
can't
actually
do
anything
with
those.
So
now
our
university
network,
for
example,
is
expanding
to
more
than
one
university
more
students,
and
the
projected
number
by
the
end
of
this
year
is
potentially
to
have
75
to
100
students
that
are
graduating
every
year
on
eos
io
as
part
of
the
official
curriculum
in
order
to
graduate
as
an
engineering
student.
E
For
example,
that
explains-
or
I
guess
can
answer
your
question
of-
how
did
they
hear
about
it
so
like
a
lot
of
it
is
this
ecosystem
has
been
alive
for
two
and
a
half
years,
and
work
has
been
done
in
the
background
to
lay
out
foundations
and
though
those
foundations
are
starting
to
pay
off,
but
those
foundations
are
unsexy
for
the
average
user,
like
I
don't
care
about
plumbing
and
electrical,
but
without
the
plumbing
electrical
you're
never
going
to
get
to
actually
standing
up
walls
and
putting
pictures
on
the
walls.
We're.
A
Yeah
and
you
just
use
the
word
foundation
and
in
our
live
chat,
shout
out
to
kevin
rose
of
block,
one
formerly
eos
new
york,
and
that's
something
I
want
to
ask
about
eve,
because
I
haven't
heard
a
whole
lot
about
what
is.
Do
you
know
anything
about
the
eos
foundation?
We
max
asked
like
who's
supposed
to
talk
to
these
businesses
and
it's
great
to
hear
that
there's
block
producers,
like
you,
I
know,
eo's
costa
rica,
does
a
lot
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
other
block
producers
that
are
doing
things.
I'm
sorry.
A
I
can't
call
you
all
out,
but
most
other
blockchains
do
have
some
sort
of
foundation
body
and
they
kind
of
act
as
like
a
centralized
voice.
Yes,
but
it's
something
that
eos
has
not
had,
but
very
recently,
since
the
pbe
was
formed.
The
idea
that
has
been
thrown
around
for
two
years
now
is
of
an
eos
alliance
or
what's
now
called
the
eos
foundation.
Even
back
when
eos
new
york
was
still
a
block
producer,
they
were
pushing
the
idea
of
the
eos
dao.
E
We,
we
showcased
how
eos
wasn't
centralized
and
how
it
was
decentralized
and
we
actually
decentralized
ourselves
even
more
than
we
were,
but
within
that
time
space.
What
we
lost
is
that
centralization
decentralization
is
a
spectrum.
It's
not
an
on,
or
off
switch
you're,
not
either
or
certain
components
are
more
centralized.
E
Certain
components
are
more
decentralized,
for
example,
the
the
main
code
creation
of
eos
io
is
centralized
in
d1,
but
within
b1
there
are
pockets
of
centralizations
teams
that
perhaps
are
more
core
component
of
that
and
teams
that
are
less
component
of
that,
and
and
throughout
this
whole
space
we
really
again,
like
I
said
we
push
towards
decentralization,
is
so
important.
What
we
lost
is
in
centralization
in
certain
aspects.
There
are
efficiencies.
E
So
for
me,
the
idea
of
a
foundation,
the
idea
of
a
dao
or
or
a
group
that
would
be
in
a
way
set
up
to
be
a
focal
point
of
communication.
In
my
opinion,
is
extremely
positive,
not
only
for
communication
aspects,
it
might
have
other
features
or
other
other.
I
guess
components
that
could
that
it
could
add
to
its
tool
belt
in
in
terms
of
what
it
provides
to
the
ecosystem.
E
But
the
idea
of
a
in
a
way
centralized
entity
which
may
be
composed
of
decentralized
people
and
the
way
that
it
is
set
up
could
be
decentralized,
but
it
ends
up
still
being
one
entity.
The
eos
foundation
would
be
very
beneficial,
I
think,
to
the
ecosystem,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
is
information
that
is
scattered
throughout,
and
so,
when
you
do
reach
out
and
I
reach
out
to
journalists
all
the
time
they
write
an
article
they're
clearly
missing
in
some
information.
So
not
not.
E
Is
it
malicious
that
they're
trying
to
to
create
some
fun
but
they're,
basing
it
off
of
old
information?
And
they
didn't
know
really
where
to
go.
Get
that
information.
I
think
a
big
part
of
that
would
be
solved
in
this.
If
we
had
one
area
that
everybody
knew,
you
could
just
go
there
and
get
some
information.
Whether
or
not
you
agree
with
the
project
or
whether
or
not
the
piece
that
you're
trying
to
write
or
the
work
that
you're
trying
to
do
would
be
negative
irrelevant.
At
least
you
would
have
accurate
information.
E
So
I
think
that
that's
one
key
component
of
the
foundation
that
I
do
hope
to
see
another
key
part
of
the
foundation
or
of
this
group
that
that
seems
to
be
materializing
is
that
block
one
does
have
a
group
now
that
is
engaging
with
the
community
that
is
engaging
with
the
blog
producers
that
is
engaging
with
the
mainnet
in
particular.
So
going
back
to
cheney's
point
of
what's
changed.
E
We
can
definitely
see
that,
since
the
ppe
group
has
been
set
up,
that
there's
been
a
focus
on
eos,
mainnet
and
less
so
on,
eos,
io
or
other
eos
io
iterations.
So
that
is
one
key
component.
I
think
that
that
has
helped.
I
guess
move
that
trend
along
or
help
shift
that
that
that,
basically,
the
the
direction
of.
B
Kevin
come
on
man.
We're
asking
you
right
now
come
on
the
show,
we're
pointing
the
finger
at
you
come
on.
Tell
us
a
little
bit
about
about
the
foundation.
Come
talk
to
us
come
on
here
and
talk
about
the
pbe,
and
you
know
chat
a
little
bit
sit
down.
Don't
do
it
through
new
telegram.
Don't
do
it
through
a
voice,
don't
do
it
on
wherever
you'd
like
to
do
it
come
sit
down?
Let
the
let
the
good
community
see
your
face
again.
It's
been
too
long.
I
think.
C
F
A
You
are
saying
that
it's
not
one
thing
eve
and
you're
right.
It's
a
big
combination
of
things
and
things
are
still
being
built.
Roads
are
still
being
paved,
but
the
reason
for
there
being
a
hard
date
in
everyone's
mind
and
that
date
was
august
15th
for
just
something
to
be
expected.
No
one
knows
what
it
is,
except
for
voice
opening
up
to
the
global
community.
Everyone
knew
that
that's
what's
happening
on
august
15th,
the
one
thing
that
stirred
everyone
up
to
think
it's
something
more
is
brendan
bloomer
on
twitter.
A
F
E
B
E
B
D
B
E
E
B
F
B
E
Okay,
so
I've
I've
been
following
along
these
messages
and
I'll
just
put
that
out
there.
If
you
think
that
block
one
is
taking
140
000
bitcoin
and
giving
you
five
out
of
it
next
week,
I
don't
know
if
that's
gonna
happen,
but
the
likelihood
of
that
happening
in
my
books
is
zero.
So
if
that's
what
it
takes
for
you
to
be
satisfied,
I
believe
you
will
not
be
satisfied.
That's
unrealistic!
E
C
E
B
E
I
don't
think
you're
supposed
to
do
anything
to
prepare
other
than
perhaps
mentally,
because
you've
been
in
a
rut
for
the
last
two
years
and
you've
been
holding
on
to
eos,
and
you
really
hope
that
something's
gonna
happen
and
you
finally
stayed
this
whole
time.
Good
stuff
is
about
to
happen.
A
lot
of
good
stuff
is
about
to
happen
and
good
on
you.
For
sticking
with
the
project.
E
Eos
is
not
standalone
in
this
ecosystem.
That's
been
in
a
in
a
bear
market
for
last
two
and
a
half
years
and
we're
starting
to
see
this
starting
to
shift
even
outside
of
eos
in
terms
of
actual
concrete
things
as
well.
One
of
the
tweets
that
I
mentioned
was
a
I
don't
recall
the
exact
word,
but
a
significant
shift
in
assets
like
we've
never
seen
before
in
our
lifetime
max
touched
upon
that
a
little
bit.
I
think
that
I'm
I'm
not
saying
that
eos
is
going
to
be
worth
10
trillion
dollars
in
10
years.
E
That
is
a
max
shield
prediction,
but
I
do
believe
that
we're
going
to
see
a
significant
influx
of
capital
within
the
blockchain
space
as
a
whole.
In
a
very
short
period
of
time,
short
period
of
time
does
not
mean
in
two
days,
so
please
again
give
me
a
break
okay.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
with
august
15th.
E
I'm
not
commenting
on
that.
However,
if
you've
hold
on
to
eos
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
you've
hold
on
to
eos
and
you've
stuck
with
this
community
is
because
you
believe
that
it
has
the
best
tech
and
it
will
be
capable
of
handling
whatever
is
thrown
at
it.
I
think
you're
in
for
a
pleasant
surprise,
because
there's
going
to
be
some
significant
activity,
that's
going
to
be
leveraging
everything
that
we've
built
in
terms
of
foundations,
and
this
will
be
like
designing
the
kitchen.
Putting
pictures
up
yeah.
B
B
E
D
E
Because
what
they
have
to
develop
is
on
eos
they've
added
eos
as
part
of
their
curriculum.
That
would
be
an
example
of
a
partnership.
I
would
say
that
that's
limited
in
partnership
when
that
happened.
You
didn't
really
hear
about
it.
We
made
you
know
a
blog
post
about.
It's
been
really
nice,
it's
great
part
of
a
bigger
picture.
I
believe-
and
I
know
of
we're
going
to
see
some
larger
partnerships
that
you
will
hear
about
and
they
will
be
significant
and
if
you
don't
think
they're
significant
nah,
there's
nothing.
E
The
vision
of
eos
from
dan
and
brandon,
as
I
understand
especially
brendan
who's,
been
mentioning
this
for
a
very
long
time,
is
that
eos
is
going
to
be
essentially
the
spreadsheet
of
the
internet.
It's
going
to
be
this
tech
stack,
you
keep
changing
the
windows,
and
so
I
keep
my
eyes
keep
changing
following
the
that
that
eos
is
going
to
be
this
tech
stack
powering,
essentially
the
the
decentralized
database
of
the
future,
we're
at
a
point
right
now,
where
eos
is
so
strong
and
capable
of
handling
so
many
transactions
and
so
much
information.
E
E
E
We
are
now
capable
of
handling
that
okay,
and
I
strongly
believe
that
the
direction
that
we're
heading
in
and
based
on
the
obviously
because
we're
block
producer,
we're
running
the
architecture,
we've
redesigned
the
architecture
over
the
last
six
months,
completely
from
the
grounds
up
on
how
block
producers
connect
with
each
other.
How
we're
able
to
handle
that
we've
even
shifted
to
diffuse,
for
example,
so
defuse
plays
a
part
in
this
on.
E
If
you
were
to
be
able
to
stream
information
and
index
information,
the
amount
of
information
that
eos
produces,
which
is
roughly
around
15
to
20
gigabytes
per
day
right
now,
we
are
capable
of
handling
this
capable
of
scaling.
This
all
of
this
plays
together
the
direction
that
we're
heading
is
that
anything
that
would
want
to
be
able
to
be
deployed
on
eos
will
be
able
to
be
deployed
on
eos
and
a
big
part
of
this.
E
There
are
a
lot
of
projects
that
are
now
being
deployed,
and
that
goes
back
to
the
usdt
that
I
talked
about.
We
are
now
in
a
position
where
there
is
demand
for
the
first
time
in
two
and
a
half
years,
there
is
demand
and
we
can
actually
supply.
We
have
never
been
able
to
supply
in
the
last
two
and
a
half
years,
not
to
the
level
that
could
make
a
significant
shift
on
how
eos
is
utilized
and
how
it
could
be
the
base
of.
A
A
A
A
They
they
love
celebrating,
of
course,
but
we've
recently
seen
an
uptick,
and
this
isn't
a
new
conversation
even
during
the
block
one
ico,
they
were
talking
about
like
big,
like
scaling
bitcoin.
Essentially,
then,
last
year
leading
up
to
b1
june,
they
really
ramped
up
the
scaling
bitcoin
and
that's
why
people
like
rob-
and
I
were
like.
A
Now
that
there's
a
block
one
financial
product
which,
for
anyone
who's
paying
attention,
knows
that
it's
at
least
something
similar
to
an
exchange,
if
not
an
exchange
in
its
own.
So
what's
up
with
block
one's
bitcoin
how's
the
exchange
fit
in.
How
does
this
benefit
eos
define
eos
network
as
a
whole?
B
Great
you
know
it's
a
great
question
and
and
and
they
would
have
to
be
willing
to
build
the
wrapping
solution
there
they're
the
ones
that
own
over
one
percent
of
bitcoin
right
or
a
little
less
than
one
percent-
I
guess
and
and
if
they
want
to
make
a
significant
shift
and
wrap
that
into
a
smart
contract
they're
the
one
with
the
ability
to
make
that
happen
and
make
that
happen
quickly.
So
let's
say
they
just
did
a
portion
of
it.
You
know
it
would.
B
B
If
you,
if
you
remember-
and
I
forgot
when
I
wrote
this
this-
this
article
out
cpu-
is
going
to
be
changing
here
pretty
soon
over
the
next
year,
we're
defecating
the
way
cpu
works
and
we'll
talk
to
you
more
about
that.
Even
a
bit
and
pretty
soon,
an
eos
won't
have
an
inherent
cpu
quality
to
it,
as
it
sits
on
your
own
account.
If
I'm
correct
and
you
can
only
lease
cpu.
B
A
So
there's
a
few
things
to
unpack
here
and
I
think
so,
there's
already
wrapped
bitcoin
on
there
there's
p
tokens
pbtc.
You
can
collateralize
it
within
the
equilibrium
stablecoin
platform.
It's
amazing,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
bitcoin
on
eos
and
that's
the
impact
that
this
block
one
financial
product
is
going
to
have.
Is
it's
going
to
be
the
catalyst
to
put
a
lot
of
bitcoin
on
chain?
A
Hopefully
it's
more
than
just
block
one's
bitcoin,
but
we
could
at
least
assume
that
it'll
be
some
of
their
bitcoin,
whether
it's
a
private
chain
or
on
the
public
chain,
that's
to
be
determined,
but
even
if
it's
on
a
private
chain,
I
believe
that
they
will
have
to
have
a
bridge
to
the
main
net
to
transact.
So,
even
if
it's
on
a
private
chain,
if
you
want
to
withdraw
your
capital,
if
you
want
to
withdraw
your
eos,
withdraw
your
wrapped
bitcoin
or
withdraw
your
us
tethers
it
it's
going
to
be
withdrawn.
A
The
eos
and
block
one
as
a
trusted
entity
could
run
a
bridge.
They
could
run
a
centralized
bridge
because
they're
a
regulated
party
to
do
so
it'd,
be
like
trusting
coinbase.
Essentially,
the
other
thing
is
how
this
bitcoin,
how
to
attract
the
bitcoin
to
eos
talk
about
d5.
You
look
at
everything
happening
on
ethereum.
Automated
market
makers
are
one
of
the
biggest
innovations
happening
in
the
last
couple
years
on
ethereum
we
see
bank
or
we
see
unit.
Swap
you
see
moon
swap.
A
We
see
all
of
these.
We
see
even
on
eos.
Now
we
see
d5
box
all
of
these
different
market
maker
pools,
but
there's
really
not
a
liquid
one
for
bitcoin,
and
if
you
listen
to
the
brendan
bloomer
interview,
he's
talking
about
driving
the
value
out
from
the
middlemen
and
to
the
asset
holders
and
to
the
users.
How
do
you
do
that?
You
could
one
way
to
do
that
is
through
liquidity.
Pools
like
we
see
on
unit
swap
like
we
see
on
bangkor
like
we
saw
all
the.
E
E
E
All
we
have
was
five
million
dollars
never
used,
and
now
suddenly
we
use
2.2
million
dollars
in
a
day.
The
more
capital
we
have
available
within
the
ecosystem.
Eos
is
already
liquid,
but
the
more
money
we
have
within
the
ecosystem
creates
opportunities
within
this
ecosys
is
ecosystem
for
those
who
have
liquidity
to
make
money
off
of
their
liquidity
and
a
lot
of
these
people
that
have
significant
amounts
of
ethereum
of
bitcoin.
They
have
so
much
so
when
we
look
at
ethereum
like
the
d5,
that's
going
on,
it's
not
a
million
people
with
five
dollars.
E
The
big
slew
of
it
is
a
handful
of
people
with
so
much
ethereum
that
they
can't
do
anything.
They
can't
dump
their
ethereum
they're
stuck
in
the
ecosystem,
so
they
put
it
up
and
then
they
make
the
returns
on
that
and
somebody's
gonna
then
go
borrow
that
and
then
he's
gonna
make
whatever
20
off
of
it,
but
you're
gonna
make
80
off
of
it
and
it's
called
pyramiding
and
that's
a
standard.
E
I
guess
financial
product
in
in
the
regular
world
as
well,
more
capital
attracts
more
capital,
makes
more
capital.
One
of
the
big
things
that
we've
been
lacking
in
eos
is
capital
and
we're
starting
to
see
the
beginnings
of
this.
So
is
it
significant
that
block
one
potentially
would
deploy
capital
on
the
mainnet,
even
if
it
remains
theirs?
So
this
idea
of
deploying
capital
doesn't
mean
that
you're
getting
five
bitcoin
yay.
No,
the
oprah
is
not
block
one
likely,
not
the
thing,
but
even
just
to
make
that
capital
accessible.
E
If
I've
got
a
lot
of
bitcoin-
and
I
want
to
utilize
my
bitcoin
right
now-
it's
very
difficult
to
do,
but
if
I
were
able
to
send
it
into
a
pool,
collaterize
it
and
then
be
able
to
take
then
eos,
which
then
can
be
a
useful
token,
because
it's
fast,
I
can
actually
do
things
with
it.
I'd
be
able
to
actually
unlock
the
value
that
I
have
in
my
bitcoin
through
eos.
E
And
very
few
people
will
be
able
to
do
that.
You
would
need
a
very,
very
trusted
entity
that
provides
tons
of
liquidity.
We've
got
that
block
one.
You
would
then
need
a
network
that
is
trusted
so
that
you
can
actually
know
the
keys
so
that
you
know
that
even
the
person
who's
owner
of
the
contract
no
longer
has
access
to
the
contract.
So
you
would
need
a
network
that
has
enough
value
in
it.
So
now
we're
talking
about
the
liquidity
of
the
us
and
the
market
cap
of
the
house
has
enough
value
in
it.
E
That
is
secure
enough,
that
it
can't
be
overtaken
by
an
external
party.
We've
got
that
that's
the
eos,
and
this
refers
to
what
I
believe
brandon
was
saying
when
he
posted.
If
you
want
to
bring
it
up
on
stream,
the
eos
is
now
ready
for
prime
time
eos.
The
mainnet
is
the
only
network
that
is
ready
for
prime
time
all
of
these
pieces
play
together
and
if
you
do
not
see
the
potential
that
that
could
bring
to
eos.
D
E
We're
already
seeing
with
five
million
dollars
and
only
about
2.2
million
dollars
right
now
being
available
through
d5
box.
In
the
last
week
they
just
transacted
yesterday,
850
000
eos
in
24
hours,
a
lot
of
money
making
and
a
lot
of
utilization
of
network
is
simply
moving
things
around,
and
people
being
able
to
capitalize
on
those
movements
and
being
a
part
of
those
movements
having
more
liquidity,
come
into
the
ecosystem
and
such
liquidity,
with
a
platform
with
bank
backing,
with
actual
the
foundations
laid
which
we
now
have.
C
C
That
rap
btc,
that
be
that
b1
would
allegedly
have
is
bigger
than
all
the
other
solutions.
Combined
is
huge
because
it
increases
the
chances
of
that
whole
thing
working
and
why
is
it
important
if
it
works
if
it
works
and
it's
accepted
by
the
bitcoin
community
and
people
start
building
on
bitcoin
and
use
it
fast?
It
means
one
thing
I
mean:
bitcoin
would
now
be
a
middle
man
for
eos
people
like
in
three
four
years
after
that,
would
look
around
and
pay
weight.
C
B
D
E
E
B
C
B
And,
even
if
it's
not
that
the
average
person
is
going
to
try
to
use
and
transact
and
buy
things
with
btc
and
use
btc
and
and
make
it
an
actual
currency
and
not
just
a
store
of
value,
that
I've
got
a
lot
of
money
and
I'm
going
to
put
over
here
in
my
my
ledger,
talking
about
making
making
waves
here
we're
talking
about
utilizing
these
currencies
not
just
putting
it
somewhere
we're
going
to
do
that
on
some
sort
of
of
eos.
You
know
you're
going
to
do
on
some
sort
of
scaling
mechanism.
B
B
That's
max
not
me,
I'm
saying
if
I
want
to
use
it
at
the
store
and
people
are
taking
btc,
I'm
not
going
to
put
it
on
on
a
chain,
I'm
going
to
create
a
news
account
and
I'm
going
to
use
it.
That
way,
I'm
saying
I'm
a
day-to-day
transactions
here,
I'm
not
talking
about
storing
massive
amounts
of
value.
That's
all.
B
B
I
hear
you
no
worries.
You
know
we
went
back
and
forth.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
exchanges.
We
talked
about
what
what
it
can
do.
We
talk
about
e,
not
only
eos
bringing
scaling
to
btc,
but
if
you
notice
here,
you
know,
brennan
mentions
eth
and
if
you
think
about
it-
and
we
talk
about
it,
there's
no
reason.
B
B
It
should
be
secure.
First,
deposits
have
three
days,
I
think,
that's
kind
of
old
news,
because
if
you
you
have
a
hacked
keys,
etc,
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
stop
you
there,
but
data
driven
by
chain
could
work
with
dexes
outside
with
the
fraud
oracle.
This
the
centralized
exchange
would
be
on
a
private
blockchain.
B
B
A
I
I
don't
know
what
he
said.
I
I
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is,
I
think,
block
one
through
their
exchange
or
financial
product
or
whatever
they're
building
they
could
wrap
whatever
they
want,
so
they'll
probably
be
able
to
wrap
ethereum
they'll
be
able
to
wrap
bitcoin,
but
there's
like
thousands
of
other
tokens
out
there,
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
with
liquid
apps,
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
make
tokens
transferable
seamlessly.
A
So
that's
the
thing
block
one
is
not
eos,
but
they
are
a
community
member
just
like
everyone
else
and
there's
plenty
of
other
community
members
building.
So
we
talked
a
lot
about
block
one
in
their
exchange.
I
think
it's
gonna
add
a
lot
of
value,
a
lot
of
liquidity,
a
lot
of
bitcoin
a
lot
of,
hopefully
tethers,
but
they're,
not
the
only
game
in
town
with
these
exchanges.
A
I
I
want
to
talk
about
eos
finex
for
a
second,
let's,
let's
put
block
one
aside,
because
there's
community
built
tools
right
now
that
are
really
making
d5
a
thing
on
eos.
So
I
mentioned
equilibrium.
I
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
don't
mention
vigor.
Even
I
are
both
custodians
at
vigor
max
is
a
candidate
at
vigor,
pretty
much
every
one.
Who's
lasted
this
long
on
the
eos
main
net.
That's
active
in
the
community
is
also
a
candidate
or
custodian
for
vigor.
It's
all
of
the
people
that
have
stuck
this
out.
A
Everyone
wants
to
see
d5
be
successful.
Everyone
wants
to
see
block
one
play
their
part,
but
there's
an
original
block
producer
called
bitfinex
who
who
they
launched
it
last
year
kind
of
started
and
stopped
what
didn't
really
live
up
to
expectations,
but
then
they
got
their
heads
down.
They
stopped
talking
about
it.
They
built
for
a
year
straight
and
now
there's
some
beta
testers
testing
it
and
eve.
You
happen
to
be
one
of
the
beta
testers.
What
could
you
report
back
on
eos
finix
and
what
are
your
expectations.
E
I
can
confirm
that
last
year's
launch
was
terrible,
the
product
was
terrible,
and
so,
if
your
baseline
is
that
you'll
be
pleasantly
surprised,
it's
it's
a
really
good
product.
I've
been
fortunate
to
be
able
to
test
it
out
for
the
last
week
and
a
half
or
so
it's
got
limited
functionality
right
now
and
some
some
limits
etc,
because
there's
there's
only
so
much
order
books
in
right
now,
but
the
big
the
ui
itself
is
very,
very
clean.
E
So
if
you're
used
to
using
bitfinex
it's
the
same
type
of
ui,
so
the
the
same
type
of
experience
that
you
currently
get
on
on
on
bitfinex
is
is
very
similar.
If
not
the
same,
it's
incredibly
responsive.
You
don't
need
to
create
a
special
account.
You
can
log
in
using
scatter.
You
can
log
in
using
anchor.
E
E
Three
minutes,
but
once
you're
on
it,
it's
instant
everything,
happens
instantly
and
because
you're
you're
dealing
with
a
centralized
order
book
everything
happens
instantly
so
for
those
who've
used
whalex,
for
example,
so
nudex
is
a
completely
decentralized
dex.
Whalex
is
kind
of
a
hybrid
where
they
also
have
their
centralized
order
book,
which
then
has
some
advantages
and
bitfinex
went
that
route
as
well,
so
they're
able
to
leverage
the
order
books
that
currently
exist
on
on
bitfinex,
but
on
their
decentralized
exchange.
It's
been
so
far.
E
E
You
know
a
project
with
a
vibrant
community,
but
because
of
again
going
back
to
lack
of
liquidity
within
eos,
not
the
eos
token
itself.
That's
plenty
liquid,
but
within
eos
lack
of
liquidity
projects
like
eos
the
next
are
going
to
unlock
significant.
You
know
pockets
of
liquidity
and
opportunities
for
these
projects
to
now
be
able
to
compete
at
the
greater
ecosystem
level.
E
E
What's
the
word
like
more
vetting,
more
vetting
in
those
projects,
especially
if
we
we
know
that
bitfinex
has
been
going,
the
compliance
route
very
similar
to
coinbase,
for
example,
and
so
if
we
have
that
type
of
exchange,
which
is,
I
think,
what
what
what
it's
going
to
be
on
eos.
It
essentially
like
in
a
way
like
a
rubber
stamp
of
approval
for
certain
projects
that
stand
out
versus
others.
E
This
will
permit
you
to
be
one
the
one
out
of
a
few,
which
then
gives
you
that
status
that
I
think
a
lot
of
projects
within
the
space
right
now,
don't
necessarily
have,
whereas
ethereum
does
have
that,
simply
because
the
money
is
being
recycled
over
and
over
and
over
and
the
process
to
list
on
centralized
exchanges
once
you're,
if
you're
an
ethereum
20
token
very
simple,
if
you're
an
eos
token
right
now
very
complicated,
very
difficult.
I
think
that
eos
finex
is
really
the
first
stepping
stone
right.
E
And
bitfinex
is
a
really
really
large
player
in
the
overall
ecosystem
of
things.
It's
it's
renowned
to
be
the
exchange
with
the
largest
order
books,
it's
also
renowned
over
the
last
few
years
to
be
one
of
the
exchanges
with
the
strictest
compliance
methods,
and
so,
if
you're
able
to
list
on
bitfinex
that
that
means
a
lot
and
that's
now
coming
to
eos.
Sorry.
A
So
that's
the
other
thing
that
has
me
bullish
about
ios
is
like,
like
eve,
you
said
when
the
cryptokitties
moment
happened
in
january
2018
or
whenever
that
happened,
like
eos
didn't
exist
yet
and
and
now
we're
seeing
like
yesterday,
I
was
on
youtube.
I
spent
17
dollars
on
a
single
transaction
because
those
stupid
yams,
if
I
was
transacting,
a
smaller
amount,
not
saying
I'm
a
whale
or
anything,
but
I
was
moving
enough
money
that,
like
the
17
bucks,
it
still
sucked
it
sucks.
A
I
don't
want
to
give
people
my
money
for
no
reason
but
uniswap
in
the
last
30
days.
I
don't
have
the
number
in
front
of
me.
I
think
they
spent
four
million
dollars
in
gas
fees
on
uniswap
in
the
last
30
days.
Imagine
if
that
4
million
dollars
that
value
was
like
driven
back
into
the
ecosystem
and
not
just
given
to
the
miners,
it's
ridiculous.
A
So
if
you
want
to
have
d5
that
isn't
wales
like
we
talk
about
like
I
I
know
we
talked
about
a
lot
of
things
today
and
like
banking
down
bank
is
like
a
a
meme
around
blockchain.
But
it's
a
true
thing
and
it's
something
that
it
could
really
enable.
You
can't
bank,
the
unbanked
17
transaction
fees.
But
you
can't.
E
C
B
Yeah
well,
hey!
I
want
to
go
back
real,
quick
to
to
b1
potential
exchange,
and
this
is
going
way
back
in
the
in
the
telegram.
Channel
and
dan
was
talking
about
b1's
plans
for
an
exchange,
and
this
just
happens
to
be
almost
18
months
ago
to
the
day,
all
right,
and
if
you
recall
in
that
ralph
hall
discussion,
he
says:
we've
been
working
on
this
for
18
months.
B
I'm
not
saying
it's
an
exchange,
but
we
know
it's
an
exchange
and,
and
one
of
the
questions
was
dan
will
block
one
exchange
share
profits
with
token
holders
and
he
responds
in
a
snarky
way.
I'm
sorry
dave!
I
cannot
answer
that.
You
know
going
back
to
the
to
the
movie,
but
I
remember
that
brendan
did
say
something
about
lining
the
incentives
of
an
exchange
or
aligning
the
focus
of
an
exchange
so
that
the
exchange
and
the
user's
values
align.
B
Is
it
possible
to
buy
or
sell
voice
tokens?
Will
it
be
possible
to
sell
destroy
voice
tokens
for
eos
btc?
This
is
dan
replying.
It
is
our
desire,
subject
to
regulations
and
jurisdiction
restrictions.
The
person
goes
on
to
say:
if
voice
tokens
are
transferable
between
users.
What
would
the
use
case
be?
B
A
And
you
know
their
exchange
is
regulated,
it's
going
to
be
more
regulated
than
any
other
exchanges
in
the
world
and
I
would
even
argue
to
say
that
it
when
brendan
said
that
whatever
their
financial
product
was
in
the
works
for
18
months,
it
probably
has
been,
but
I
bet
more
so
than
the
development
cycle
was
the
cycle
of
how
long
it
takes
to
get
these
regulations
pushed
through
and
the
correct
permissions
where
their
offices
are
located.
So
we
hear
a
lot
about
like
shintai.
A
Their
big
news
for
the
last
couple
weeks
or
couple
months
has
been
their
their
kind
of
journey
of
getting
their
their
monetary
transmissions
license
from
singapore
and
if
you
notice
on
the
block
one
careers
page
recently,
there's
about
eight
jobs,
ten
jobs
out
of
singapore,
it's
it's
where
a
lot
of
this
like
defy
companies,
crypto
companies
are
locating.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
like
not
malted,
but
it's
for
its
own
thing.
I
lost
my
train
of
thought
again,
so
I'm
just
gonna
shut
up.
It's.
B
Great,
it's
great
exchange
is
great:
oh
hey!
Let's,
let's
keep
going
here
real,
quick,
and
maybe
you
can
spread
some
some
light
on
this
one,
but
we
recently
found
out
that
block
one
is
investing
in
a
bitcoin
mining
operation,
180
megawatt
with
the
ability
to
up
size
to
300
megawatts
and
it
will
go
live
in
early
2021..
A
Yeah
this
one
has
me
stumped,
I
I
don't
really
have
great
speculation.
That
doesn't
seem
crazy
to
me.
I
hope
the
speculation
people
are
making
is
somewhat
accurate,
but
I
I
I
don't
think
that
they're
going
to
mind
bitcoin
to
give
away
to
people
I
I
maybe
they
are,
but
I
don't
think
anyone's
giving
away.
Anything
like
profit
sharing
is
one
thing,
but
giving
it
away
is
something
different.
E
A
B
C
B
A
A
F
A
A
A
If
you
go
through
the
token
economics
in
the
voice
pitch
deck,
that's
on
the
voice
blog
somewhere
from
last
january
december.
It
talks
about
like
how
the
voice
tokens
are
distributed
and
guess
what
percentage
of
voice
tokens
that
voice
the
company
is
comfortable,
accepting
as
their
revenue
model
10
percent.
A
So
that
means
with
their
business
model
that
they
built
from
the
ground
up
with
voice.
Their
business
model
revolves
around
them.
Taking
ten
percent
of
the
the
voice,
tokens
minted
and
fees
generated.
Well,
they
own
ten
percent
of
the
eos
mainnet,
so
any
business
that
they
build
that
utilize.
The
eos
vein
that
they're
clearly
comfortable
with
this
ten
percent
rule
in
the
profit
distributions
and
that
that
could
be
just
a
random
coincidence
or
it's
just
the
the
margin
that
they're
comfortable
with
just
throwing
that
out.
There.
B
I
like
it
here,
you
go
we'll
continue
here
so
question.
You
know
you
said
earlier:
let's
just
just
go
back
to
that
that
wrapping
btc
and
you
mentioned
the
levels
of
trust
and
what
you
have
to.
I
love
it
there
exactly.
You
mentioned
the
levels
of
trust,
and
you
mentioned
okay.
Well,
they
trust
the
contract,
they
know
the
contract
and
then
everybody
knows
it's
safe.
Well,
there's
another
level
of
that.
B
E
B
Along
that
line,
I
I
agree
with
you
here,
but
a
blocked
producer
that
gets
a
certain
amount
of
block
producer.
Pay
may
see
value
in
extracting
the
btc
on
the
other
side
by
overriding
the
smart
contract.
Just
saying
that's
honey
pot
out
there.
Well
one
block
producer
can't
do
that,
but
not
one
block
producer,
but
hey
guys.
E
News
work
is
overtaken,
doesn't
matter
what
you
do
it's
already
done,
like
it's
done.
If
the
network's
overtaken
doesn't
matter
what
you
do
so,
then
that
that
example,
that
you
have
locked
within
the
contracts
which
is
also
listed
on
the
exchanges,
would
lose
its
value,
which
would
lose
the
exchange's
value.
Who
are
the
network
operators?
It
doesn't
work
out.
Okay,
well,.
E
There
I
like
it,
that's
where
it's
so
different
from,
let's
say
steam,
so
so
the
steam
narrative
was
always
that
these
exchanges
weren't
part
of
the
ecosystem,
and
so
they
had
incentive
to
perhaps
come
in
on
eos
they're
already
a
part
of
the
ecosystem,
there's
no
there's
no
fear
of
them
coming
in
they're
already
there.
I.
B
B
B
Why
are
we
going
to
do
we
are?
Are
we
ever
going
to
see
large
corporate
partners
and
the
reason
I
ask
this
is
because
we've
had
a
lot
of
information
here
lately
about
well.
B1
is
coming
into
the
mix
b1
starting
to
vote,
their
minority
stake
and
they're
looking
at
at
these
larger
pools
and
they're
freaking
out
mechanisms
and
how
they
want
to
vote
for
the
candidates
that
are
out
there
and
dan
made
a
tweet
lately
about
about
cooperating
in
collaboration
with
big
tech
companies.
B
You
know
so,
do
you
ever
see
a
situation
where
the
network
effect
or
the
eos
network
or
gets
added
value,
because
we
see
some
of
these
large
corporations
and
I
say,
trusted
from
a
standpoint
trusted
by
other
corporations.
Other
entities,
other
people
that
would
bring
massive
amounts
of
liquidity
or
massive
amounts
of
use
to
the
network.
B
E
B
E
When-
and
I
don't
think
that
this
is
this
is
the
part
I
disagree
with-
it's
not
d1
deciding
that's
not
how
this
works,
we're
all
players
in
the
ecosystem
block
one
is
the
majority
stake
owner
of
the
ecosystem
right
now
or
the
one
that
has
the
most
as
a
single
entity
as
far
as
we
know,
but
it
wouldn't
be
block
one
necessarily
deciding
that
they
now
in
store
x,
amount
of
bps.
I
think
that
will
happen
naturally.
So
will
it
happen?
I
believe
so.
E
Is
it
because
d1
decides
that
they're
going
to
you
use
flight
tomorrow
as
an
example,
we
don't
want
them
in
and
we're
putting
some
that's,
not
how
eos
works.
So
no,
that's.
I
don't
think
that's
how
it's
going
to
happen,
but
it
might
so
I
so
will
there
be
big
corporations
that
would
likely
join
as
block
producers
or
enter
the
race
yeah
for
sure.
Why
not?
We
already
have
large
corporations.
Why
not
bigger
ones.
C
Predicting
well
I
mean
it's,
it
was
always
easy.
It
was
his
vision
to
have
you
know,
revenue
generating
businesses
of
you
know,
diver's
background
as
block
producers
right.
That
was
the
original
vision,
and
you
know
I
see
I
see
eos
brock.
Roos
is
a
little
bit
like
vigor
dak,
where
you
mentioned
probably
a
year
ago
that
you
want
to
pass
a
torch
to
somebody
better
than
you.
C
Maybe
bps
don't
want
to
do
that,
but
you
know
there's
always
somebody
better
than
you
that's
going
to
replace
you,
and
I
mean
there's
companies
that
that
are
big
tech
companies
that
have
shown
a
willingness
to
participate
in
public
blockchains.
Like
some
examples,
you
had
ibm
participating
with
stellar.
C
You
have
google
making
a
node
and
the
parts
to
begin
hashgraph
governance
to
even
have
a
node
in
theta,
and
so
I
mean
they.
They
clearly
want
to
participate
and
anybody
that
does
their
homework,
and
I
know
that
these
companies
do
they're
gonna
figure
out.
Eos
is
where
it's
at
right,
it's
where
the
future's
at
so
I
mean.
I
definitely
think
that
in
the
next
year
or
so,
you'll
see
big
tech
companies
like
google
and
ibm
making
block
producers
and.
A
Yeah,
let's
bring
that
up.
Let's
shout
out
ultra
man,
they
did
a
great
job
at
bringing
in
corporate
block
producers,
people
that
agreed
from
large
corporations.
We
saw
ubisoft
and
they
haven't
announced
it
yet,
but
they
have
amd
all
over
their
website.
So
I
don't
know
if
amd
would
be
a
future
one
or
if
they've
already
been
announced.
I
I
max
you'd,
probably
know
better
than
me,
but.
F
C
Yeah
yeah
and
it's
a
profit
generating
business
right.
So
why
not-
and
I
mean
I
mean
ultra
the
the
ceo
there
or
one
of
the
top
guys
he
he
keeps
saying
they
have
a
chinese
partner
with
775
million
users
or
something
I
know
I
speculate
that
it's
10
cent
or
somebody
along
those
lines.
I
don't
know
but
yeah
you'll
see
you
see
those
companies
even
facebook.
C
C
A
A
What
very
large
well-known
exchange
has
come
to
eos
mainnet
in
the
last
couple
of
months,
finance
that
I
thought
that
was
huge
for
the
eos
main
that
whenever
binance
came
on
it
just
happened
to
be
during
the
law
when
everyone
stopped
paying
attention
to
eos,
but
that's
a
huge,
significant
thing
and
I
have
a
question
for
eve,
and
that
is
like
what
is
binance's
role
as
a
block
producer.
How
many?
How
many
people
on
their
team
is
dedicated
to
it?
E
They
be
no,
so
we've
been
working
with
binance
now
for
months
prior
to
them
registering
a
node,
because
obviously
they
reached
out
again,
if
you're
going
to
reach
out
to
somebody
who
you're
going
to
reach
out
to
you're,
going
to
reach
out
to
the
public
facing
people
and
we're
one
of
the
public-facing
companies,
and
so
we
help
them
set
up
their
nodes.
We
help
them
figure
out
the
you
know,
delay
of
the
land
and
how
they
could.
E
How
could
they
they
could
distribute
their
tokens
and
what
they
could
do
and
you
saw
that
they
joined
genpool,
for
example,
which
was
quite
significant
compared
to
other
exchanges,
and
yes,
we've
been
working
with
them
to
expose-
or
I
guess,
bring
value
to
and
and
open
up
the
eos
ecosystem.
Why
just
iq
token?
Well,
that's
one
token:
maybe
there
are
other
tokens
in
the
work
yeah.
E
F
C
C
C
C
C
B
B
B
My
personal
thought
is:
he's
excited
about
voice
honestly
he's
excited
about
voice.
It's
going
to
launch.
The
only
thing
I
think
that
might
possibly
be
connected
to
eos
would
be
if
they
announced
some
connection
between
voice
and
and
eos.
Maybe
a
hashback
of
some
of
the
you
know
the
content
or
or
maybe
they
go
back
and
talk
about
eos
accounts.
But
honestly,
I
do
not
think
that
they
would
make
some
public
announcement
on
the
15th
that
would
overshadow
voice.
B
A
The
one
thing
that
we
everyone
like
was
telegraphed
and
told
publicly
what's
happening
on
the
15th
is
that
is
when
global
signups
are
going
to
open
up
and
that's
going
to
be
announced
for
voice
on
on
the
15th.
But
today
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
today
someone
from
the
voice
team
made
a
post
and
they
opened
up
the
signups
today.
So
today's
the
13th
that
means
that
in
two
days,
what's
the
big
news
gonna
be
because
they
already
opened
up
the
open,
invites
everyone
already.
A
Yeah,
everyone
on
voice
gets
10
invite
codes.
So
that's
something
that
changed
on
voice
recently.
I
think
everyone
already
knows
this,
but
they
went
from
requiring
a
kyc
for
every
user
which
it
was
horrible
friction.
There
was
a
lot
of
critiques
on
it
and
it
was
hindering
mass
adoption,
so
they
switched
their
approach
and
they
went
to
a
an
approach
where
it's
proof
of
liveliness,
where
you
basically
have
to
prove
that
you're,
a
human
being
they
use
this
technology
called
face.
A
Tech,
that's
face
tec,
dot,
com,
they're,
a
really
cool
company
that
does
some
really
cool
technology.
You
could
watch
some
demos
on
there
and
that
proves
that
you're
human
being,
but
I
think
whenever
you
want
to
withdraw
your
tokens,
that's
where
the
kyc
is
going
to
happen.
You're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
your
tokens
off
a
voice
so
as
a
second
like
check
and
this
identity
in
the
social
graph
that
they're
trying
to
create
on
voice
that
you
need
two
things.
A
A
A
A
C
Oh
well,
yeah,
like
I
mean
they've,
been
working
so
hard
on
voice.
So
that's
what
they're
celebrating
right,
they
don't
want
to.
You
know,
overshadow
it
with
some
other
big
news.
In
my
opinion
I
mean.
Maybe
they
announced
some
kind
of
future
plan
to
integrate
with
eos,
but
I
think
you
know
it's
all
about
voice,
and
it's
a
big
moment
for
for
everyone
right
regardless
what
you
you
think
about
voice,
I
mean
I'm
excited
eves.
E
F
E
B
B
he
left
later,
but
that
was
the
last
time
he
publicly
posted
on
telegram.
So
he's
excited
about
august
15th.
I
don't
know.
If
that's
a
you
know
any
relation
to
the
sec
agreement.
Maybe
they
had
a
one
year.
Handoff
legal
is
looking,
I
don't
know,
but
you're
right.
He
goes
on
to
say
down
here
that
they're
going
to
talk
about
their
road
maps
and
actions
that
be
won
as
it
pertains
to
eos.
B
He
says
yes,
we'll
be
talking
about
eos,
specific
advancements
and
he
comes
on
down.
I
get
past
all
these
bullish,
eves
tweets
down
here.
He
says
looking
forward
to
the
next
b1
public
event
and
road
map
update.
It
will
be
key
in
strengthening
the
spirit
of
the
community.
I
agree
and
brennan
says
it's
coming:
winky
emoji,
oh
my
god
we're
getting
a
road
map,
we're
getting
a
road
we're
getting
a
road
map
update,
potentially
as
it
relates
to
eos.
C
A
That
said,
like
they
might
go
to
the
eos
main
that
that's
their
plan
to
go
to
the
eos
main
net,
but
there's
no
guarantee
and
a
lot
of
people
took
that
and
turned
it
into
five.
But
I
think
it's
gonna
be
addressed
of
like
this
is
what
needs
to
happen
before
we
go
to
the
main
net
or
we're
coming
to
the
main
that
and
like
here.
A
It
is,
and
here's
some
transactions
and
they'll
show
us
what
they're
doing,
and
I
I
think
at
minimum
we'll
be
hashing
their
their
blocks
to
the
main
that
dan
kind
of
said
that
to
phil
from
shintai
they
had
an
interaction
on
twitter
and
dan
specifically
said
that
he
recommends
hashing.
The
block
headers
to
the
main
to
a
public
network,
and
he
said
eos
would
be
a
great
choice
for
that.
B
A
Yeah
he'll
come
up
in
a
second
sorry
richard
I'm
gonna
kind
of
blow
you
up
here.
Okay,
so
I
got
a
signee
block
one.
I
check
this
every
couple
months
to
see
what's
going
on
the
most
recent
patents,
so
I
I
blew
the
whistle
on
the
identity,
patents
that
were
made
public
last
year,
but
the
new
ones
that
came
out
were
where
is
it
bidding
on
a
social
bidding
on
a
post
on
a
social
media
platform?
This
one
came
out
at
the
beginning
of
the
summer.
A
A
Whenever
google
patents
made
it
public,
I
don't
think
it
was,
but
they
have
a
new
patent
for
digital
identity
on
a
social
graph,
and
then
they
also
have
another
one
that
came
out
on
the
same
day:
systems
and
methods
for
incentivizing,
digital
identity,
verification,
I'm
not
going
to
try
breaking
these
down
with
you
right
now.
We've
already
been
on
here
for
an
hour
and
a
half,
but
I
do
recommend
you
check
it
out.
You
can
go
to
patent.google.com
and
if
you
look
at
these
patents,
you'll
see
who
the
authors
are.
A
A
A
If
you
want
to
kind
of
understand
how
groundbreaking
the
technology
is,
privacy
security,
this
guy-
that
was
an
awesome
post,
amazing
post,
shout
out
richard
this
is
an
awesome
post
he's
the
author,
so
everyone
knows
him
as
the
author
of
this
post,
but
whenever
I
saw
the
post
me
being
me,
I
recognized
his
damn
name
because
he's
the
same
guy,
that's
on
all
of
the
other
block.
One
patents
he's
on
the
the
other
identity,
patents
too,
but
now
he's
on
the
digital
identity,
social
graph
and
the
incentivizing
digital
identity.
A
B
It's
yeah,
seven
degrees
of
separation.
Basically,
basically
the
first
person
gets
on
dan
lammer.
We
all
know
dan,
he
identifies
brendan
bloomer,
he
identifies
easel
rose.
He
says
those
are
the
people
and
we
all
trust
stan
and
then
we
trust
those
five
people,
because
dan
says
we
trust
those
five
people
and
that's
their
identity
and
they
each
go
out
and
they
tag
five
people
and
all
of
a
sudden
you've
got
this
great
network
of
people
that
you
start
out
with
one
trusted
entity.
All
of
a
sudden.
B
You
pretty
much
have
covered
the
entire
world
with
people
that
you
know
and
trust.
If
you
say
you
trust
somebody,
that's
a
bot
and
then
other
people
start
saying
that
person's.
Not
you
get
dinged
because
you
lied
is
what
it
boils
down
to
and
that's
where
we
go
into
the
compensation
model,
they're
going
to
compensate
you
they're,
going
to
reward
you
for
going
out
there
and
truthfully
identifying
people.
If
you
don't
truthfully
identify
people,
you
will
be
dinged,
that's
it
in
a
nutshell,
guys
it's
pretty
cool,
pretty
cool
the
way
they
do
it.
A
And
I
I
think,
that's
their
long-term
plan
for
identity.
I
think
that
the
first
step
is
this
proof
of
liveliness
with
the
referrals
and
sign
ups
and
things
like
that,
and
they
still
have
the
kyc
and
I
don't
think
they'll
ever
be
able
to
get
away
from
the
kyc.
If
you
want
to.
If
you
want
to
take
your
tokens
off
of
the
voice
platform,
you're
gonna
have
to
do
a
kyc.
A
I
I
don't
see
that
ever
changing,
but
the
the
digital
identity
man,
if
they
could
solve
that
in
a
decentralized
way
that
that's
something
that
would
have
to
be
on
the
public
network,
no
one
like
it,
wouldn't
really
be
a
decentralized
identity
network
and
web
of
trust
or
social
graph
or
whatever.
They
want
to
call
it
if
it
wasn't
somehow
tied
into
a
public
network
and
that's
the
other
thing
I'll
bring
up
without
bringing
the
patents
up
on
the
screen.
A
Is
every
patent
going
all
the
way
back
to
the
identity.
Patents
that
I
blew
up
last
year
and
when
I
blew
them
up
is
coincidentally
on
the
show.
Is
me
rob
and
mark
woods
shout
out
to
mark
if
he's
watching
from
block
one
now,
but
we're
kind
of
blowing
up
that
patent
and
everywhere
in
the
patent
it
says
on
a
public
network,
it
never
says
eos,
but
it
says
a
law
involves
a
public
blockchain
network.
B
A
couple
other
things
just
looking
at
our
gender,
real
quick,
so
we
get
to
get
the
questions
I'll.
Let
people
go
home
wow
hour
and
45
minutes
right
voice
launches
is
is,
is
the
15th,
but
it's
already
happened
a
little
bit
here.
So
you
know,
if
you
want
an
invitation
or
you
have
trouble
getting
in,
you
can
reach
out
to
anybody.
That's
already
on
voice.
They've
got
10.
tokens
reset
if
you're
on
voice
use
them
you're
going
to
lose
them
there.
B
They
told
us
that
there's
going
to
be
multiple
token
resets
now
through
october
15th,
as
they
try
to
weigh
away
the
mechanisms
for
how
the
tokenomics
work
so
we're
going
to
see
multiple
token
resets
between
now
in
the
next
next
three
months
down
the
road.
So
it's
it's
going
to
be
interesting.
Time.
Hope
to
see
you
guys
on
there
make
sure
you
follow.
Everybody
make
sure
you
follow
us,
go
up
there
and
give
him
a
nice
little
voice
pumped
out
here.
So
he
has
something
to
play.
B
A
B
E
Are
yeah?
That's
that's
a
really
good
question.
So
right
now
it's
been
deployed
or
it
is
in
the
process
of
being
deployed,
we're
still
tweaking
the
parameters
on
jungle.
So
with
any
code
right
when
you,
when
you
start
off
with
the
code,
for
example,
this
particular
piece
of
code-
it's
it
has
an
iteration
of
30
days.
What
I
mean
by
that
is
in
the
new
model,
the
rentals
that
you
do,
wow
you
just
disappeared.
E
E
At
the
same
time,
we
have
kylian,
so
we've
got
two
major
test
nets
that
have
been
utilized
by
the
community
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
three
years.
Actually
what
we're
deciding
to
do
is
if
we
have
to-
and
we
do
have
two
should
they
be
mirrors
of
each
other,
or
should
we
perhaps
tweak
some
parameters
on
one
versus
the
other
in
order
to
isolate
variables
twice
as
quickly
and
in
order
to
be
able
to
test
and
test
edge
cases
etc.
E
So,
right
now
we're
positioning
both
test
nets
very
much
aligned
with,
let's
say
western
and
eastern,
that
way
time
zones
work
out.
Better
people
can
can
can
communicate
better
discussions
flow
better
and
then
what
we
are
going
to
do
as
eos
nation.
What
we
did
with
1.8
upgrade
is
then,
every
two
weeks
or
so
in
the
beginning.
It
likely
will
go
quicker
over
time,
but
we're
then
going
to
join
both
test
nets
together
and
have
a
call
where
everybody
comes
in
talks
about.
E
You
know:
what's
happened
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
and
how
those
parameters
interacted
with
each
other,
so
we're
still
setting
up
that
web.
We're
still
getting
people
on
we're.
Still,
you
know
making
all
the
base
adjustments
once
that
and
updating
contracts,
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
needs
to
be
done
once
that's
done,
we're
likely
going
to
be
running
this
for
a
couple
of
months,
what's
important
as
well
and
people
kind
of
lost
that
this
is
the
first
time
it,
which
is
huge
people
need
to
realize.
E
This
is
the
first
time
ever
that
block
one
has
released
code
not
in
a
release
candidate
and
has
asked
us
to
test
it.
What
that
means
is
we
have
the
possibility
of
changing
the
code
and
interacting
with
block
one
and
pbe
seems
to
be
the
representative
right
now,
they're,
the
ones
that
are
in
a
way
coordinating
this
or
helping
the
discussion
move
along.
We
have
the
possibility
to
affect
the
change
before
it
goes
on
an
rc
which,
in
my
mind,
I
can
consider
that
then
as
an
alpha.
Then
it
goes
in
an
rc.
E
If
we
go
back
to
rex
1.0
the
way
I
call
it
we
had,
I
believe,
four
rc's
before
the
final,
so
rc's
are
like
the
beta
once
the
beta
is
finally
released.
Then
we
go
into
the
final,
which
would
be
let's
say
I
believe
in
rex
one
cases
it
was
rc4
rc5,
it
becomes
final.
It
goes
on
the
official
repo
it
gets
merged
in
this
particular
case,
we'd
have
both
systems
running
in
parallel
rex,
1.0
rex
2.0
over
time.
The
idea-
this
is
still
very
theoretical
at
this
point-
we're
not
there.
Yet.
E
E
Very
long
and
sorry
about
the
the
baby
in
the
background,
the
timeline
would
be
potentially
a
couple
of
months
in
order
for
us
to
get
to
a
place
where
it's
it's
in
final
rc
and
then
potentially
up
to
a
year
for
the
system
to
be
completely
moved
over
completely
moved
over.
Though
it's
possible
that
within
the
first
two
months,
the
majority
of
the
liquidities
moved
over
and
for
all
intents
and
purposes
your
experience
will
be
the
new
experience.
But
for
the
final
final
final
I
would
say
maybe
a
year
and
a
half.
A
I
got
a
shout
out.
I
got
a
shout
out,
patrick
eve,
always
shouts
out
patrick
he
he
did
the
the
paid
tips
in
the
chat.
I
think
I
got
three
swiss
francs
he's
got
a
swiss
workshop
coming
up
soon.
I
don't
know
who
all
the
guests
are,
but
I
know
benny
hack,
the
ceo
of
liquidapps
is
one
of
his
guests.
He
also
has
sebastian
from
wordproof
shout
out
to
sebastian.
I
can't
think
of
who
the
third
person
is.
Maybe
it's
me
I
would
say
that
guy
yeah,
I.
C
B
B
F
B
B
B
A
A
So-
and
I
heard
this
through
the
grapevine
also,
so
this
isn't
new
news,
so
I
think
it's
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
confirmed,
but
I'll
say
it's
confirmed
and
if
it's
I'm
wrong,
then
screw
me
right
but
blancos
on
nintendo
I
tweeted
that
out.
I
said
I
can't
wait
to
play
blankos
on
my
nintendo
switch
and
guess
who
liked
the
post
galaxy
interactive,
the
company
that
invested
in
mythical
games-
and
they
were
the
ones
who
I
retweeted
galaxy-
interactive
who's
like
a
subsidiary
of
galaxy
digital.
A
They
made
the
tweet
about
blancos
and
I
was
like
screwed
I'm
going
to
blow
up
this
nintendo
thing,
I'm
going
to
remind
people
of
it,
so
I
retweeted
them
with
comments
that
I
can't
wait
to
play
it
on
my
nintendo
switch
and
galaxy
interactive.
I
know
like
isn't
an
endorsement
by
any
means,
but
it
this
is
everything.
A
It's
happening.
I
don't
know
when,
because
they're
supposed
to
launch
last
year,
I'm
not
going
to
predict
when
when
blanca
is
going
to
launch-
but
I
will
say,
I'm
super
freaking
excited
about
it
and
I'm
gonna.
I'm
gonna
call
that
since
max
made
some
predictions
earlier
that
we
can
go
back
and
say
I
told
you
so
I'm
making
my
prediction,
I'm
drawing
the
line
in
the
sand
blancos
on
nintendo
switch.
I
will
kick
all
your
asses.
B
B
I
hope
I
said
that
right,
robert
neal,
but
this
is
the
guy
that
voiced
my
post
up
to
140
000
voice
tokens,
so
we
could
get
the
word
out
there
to
everybody
about
what
was
going
on.
So
thank
you,
robert
great
job.
His
first
question,
I'm
going
to
direct
it
to
eaves
and
anybody
else
can
jump
in.
I
think
this
is
your
your
question.
Why
is
the
eos
io
evm
running
on
telos,
but
not
eos,
so
I
think
he
means
the
ethereum
virtual
machine.
B
E
E
I
can
tell
you,
though,
that
I
have
been
in
discussions
with
ethereum
projects
that
are
looking
at
deploying
on
eos,
and
I
have
shared
the
information
and
we've
been
doing
back
and
forth
leveraging
the
evm
in
order
for
them
to
do
so,
and
these
projects
are
located
in
well,
one
of
them
that
I'm
that
I'm
referring
to
right
now
is
located
in
switzerland,
and
it
also
it
happens
to
be
a
municipality,
and
so
some
of
perhaps
what
I
was
referring
to
earlier
might
have
to
do
with
that.
Okay,.
A
That's
the
beautiful
thing
about
the
evm
is
technical
debt,
so
in
2017
the
ethereum
foundation,
consensus
and
everyone
that
they
they
get
they
fed
ever
in.
The
kool-aid
saying
like
this
is
ready
for
you
guys
to
scale
build
on
ethereum,
build
with
solidity.
They
spent
years
building
on
solidity,
investing
r
and
d
resources
in
the
solidity.
A
It's
not
that
easy
to
just
start
from
scratch
and
rate
and
see,
plus
plus
they
don't
have
to
they
could
port
their
solidity
code
into
eosio
evm,
and
it's
a
beautiful
thing
and,
like
you've
said
there
just
has
to
be
demand.
But
demand
takes
time
like
the
sales
cycle
on
this
stuff
isn't
like
overnight,
and
the
evm
was
there's
education.
E
Too,
like
it's,
it's
not
a
one-click
button
like
I
just
I
load
this.
I
click
one
button
and
it's
done
there's
still
work
to
do,
but
it's
definitely
not
as
much
as
starting
from
scratch.
However,
for
certain
instances
it
is
simpler
to
starting
from
it
is
simpler,
starting
from
scratch,
because
the
way
that
you
wrote
something
for
a
theorem,
knowing
that
the
theorem
couldn't
scale
and
knowing
that
the
theorem
would
limit
you
in
certain
ways.
But
you
wanted
to
do
x
and
you
couldn't.
B
Perfect,
so
we
got
you
there
so
next
question
I'll
start
the
answer
here.
First
and
you
guys
want
the
question
is
same
guy.
Why
do
you
think
all
these
hyped
up,
nfts
and
nft
markets
are
launching
on
wax
and
not
eos?
Couple
things
honestly
wax
is
a
5
cent.
Token
ram
fees
are
much
lower.
Your
cpu
fees
are
much
slower,
but
the
founder
of
wax
quigley
really
did
an
excellent
job
getting
together.
Like
we
mentioned
earlier
with
regards
to
us,
we
talked
about
ultra.
B
C
E
Yeah
there
are
nfts
and
eols,
there
are
entities
that
are
leveraging
wax
that
are
now
going
to
leverage
eos
wax
was
first
to
the
party
for
that
they're
a
federated
chain
as
well
we're
a
block
producer
on
wax.
I
think
we're
ranked
number
two
or
number
three,
it's
much
easier.
We're
told
what
to
do.
There's
a
central
entity
that
says
what
can
or
cannot
happen
that
makes
things
much
more
efficient
in
eos.
C
E
A
A
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
could
hear
that,
but
it
was
really
loud
in
my
ears.
No,
I
can't
hear
it
great.
You
don't
want
to
yeah,
so
shout
out
to
emblue
and
the
nft
gallery.pixeos.art
and
to
go
back
to
the
nfts.
I
think
the
reason
they're
more
popular
on
wax
is
because,
for
the
reasons
eve
mentioned,
but
ram
is
significantly
more
expensive
on
eos
than
it
is
on
wax
and
even
on
wax.
Until
atomic
assets
came
out
like
the
simple
assets
weren't
exactly
it
was
creating
like
a
little
mini
ram
problem.
A
Even
with
the
wax
cloud
wallet.
People
were
running
out
of
ram
and
we
know
how
like
for
someone
outside
of
blockchain-
that's
not
familiar
with
crypto
like
how
confusing
it
could
be
whenever
you
run
out
of
resources
yeah.
So
it's
just
there's
a
little
bit
more
friction
on
the
main,
a
little
bit
more
cost
with
ram,
but
just
so
everyone
knows
nathan
rempel.
A
I
think
this
is
public,
but
nathan,
rempel
with
liquid
apps
he's
been
working
a
lot
with
nfts
and
basically
porting
all
of
the
standards
to
vram,
so
you're
gonna
start
seeing
more
stuff
like
that
cut
coming
out
of
liquid
apps
everything
we
do
is
open
source
and
you'll
be
able
to
utilize
the
adapt
networks.
You
have
ram
lists
or
very
minimal
ram
nfts
using
the
simple
goods
and
d
goods
standards.
B
Okay,
this
next
question
is
from
juan
davis,
juan
david
ivora
and
I'll
break
it
up
and
ask
one
from
each.
What
improvements
do
you
think
eos
will
get
in
the
next
year
and
what
are
we
trying
to
fix
in
terms
of
governance
and
at
the
technical
level?
So
eves
you
want
to
take
it
from
a
technical
level,
we'll
let
zach
or
max
talk
about
government
governance
level.
E
It's
not
that
the
current
resource
model
is
bad,
but
it's
inherently
flawed
when
it
scales
the
level
that
we've
seen
it
scale
to,
and
the
new
proposed
resource
model
is
really
flipping
the
current
model
on
its
head
right
now,
one
of
the
biggest
issues
or
the
largest
issue
with
the
current
resource
model.
It's
not
so
much.
How
it's
made
is
that
by
default,
if
you
have
eos,
if
you've
got
eos
by
default,
it
the
resources
that
you
have
access
to
are
earmarked
to
you,
but
they're
not
made
available
to
anybody
else.
E
So
when
you've
got
your
eos,
you
stake
it.
That
portion
of
resource
is
yours,
even
though
you
might
never
re
use
them.
They're,
essentially
like
taken
away
from
the
pool
of
resources
with
the
new
resource
pro.
The
new
proposed
resource
model,
essentially
flipping
it
over
its
head,
where
all
the
resources
that
are
that
are
available
theoretically
are
made
available,
and
then
you
then,
and
go
get
your
share
of
by
staking
interex
or
by
I
guess,
lending
from
rex
by
default.
The
tokens
that
you
have
now
earn
you
interest
by
default.
E
We
really
only
take
advantage
of
single
core,
and
but
we've
done
so,
and
we've
optimized
single
core,
so
good
that
we're
now
at
the
sub
millisecond
level
for
cpu
execution
times
we're
now,
I
believe
in
a
position
where
we're
going
to
parallelize
and
we're
not
currently
paralyzing.
Certain
actions
are
being
paralyzed,
we're
using
multithread
a
little
bit
very
minimal
once
we're
able
to
do
this,
you
now
just
scale
eos
to
levels
insane.
Just
amazing!
E
A
Cool,
let
me
let's
go
back
to
an
earlier
discussion
about
large
entities
or
known
entities
being
block
crews,
what
I
mean
and
it's
getting
really
flippant
expensive
to
run
a
block
producer
node
on
the
eos
minute,
like
no
joe
schmoe
is
able
to
just
spin
up
a
node
and
become
a
producing
block
producer.
I
mean
you.
A
So
how
how
many
like
companies
are
there
in
the
world
like?
What's
the
infrastructure,
if
you,
if
you
didn't,
have
anything
in
place
right
now,
eve
and-
and
you
were
just
a
a
guy
who
wanted
to
get
skin
in
the
game
and
be
part
of
eo,
say
you're
a
corporation,
say
you're
an
ibm,
how
much
investment
would
it
cost
like?
F
E
Being
a
vp
is
a
is
a
deficit
running
business
you're,
not
making
money.
I
don't
know
what
people
think
is
happening.
It's
all
unchained.
You
can
see
that
through
mining
pools,
that's
just
being
distributed
right
away
and
the
price
of
the
token
with
the
amount
of
infrastructure
that's
required.
It's
not
a
money
making
business
dan
predicted
this
a
very
long
time
ago.
Businesses
will
come
to
the
main
net.
E
Trusted
entities
will
come
to
the
main
net
and
it
will
be
a
money
losing
business
but
because
they're
trusted
entities
on
the
mainnet
that
will
enable
outside
contracts
or
other
things.
That
might
then
generate
revenue
we're
already
there
with
no
vps.
Then
our
colleagues
that
nobody's
making
money-
that's
not
a
thing.
Okay,
so
you
like
forget
that
we're
running
a
deficit
in
terms
of
actual
costs.
It
depends
whether
or
not
you
go
the
cloud
route
or
the
bare
metal
route.
E
We
at
first
were
the
cloud
route
because
it
made
more
sense
for
us
plus,
we
didn't
know
what
the
architecture
would
look
like
on.
Eos
eos
wasn't
optimized
yet
so
some
people
ended
up
buying.
You
know
xeon
platinums,
for
example,
and
spending
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
for
something
that
wasn't
used
because
eos
couldn't
use
it.
So
you
invested
too
much
capital
too
quickly,
now
we're
at
a
point
we're
very,
very
stable
in
terms
of
architecture
in
terms
of
infrastructure.
E
So,
if
you
were
to
come
in,
you
wouldn't
be
wasting
the
capital
that
a
lot
of
people
like
us
have
invested
in
prior
to
or
too
early
right.
If
you're
going
the
cloud
route,
I
can
say
that
certain
of
her
competitors
are
spending
30,
40,
50
000
us
per
month,
just
on
bandwidth
and
if
they
were
to,
for
example,
offer
history
solutions,
then
that
that
would
that
would
increase
if
you're
going
the
the
more
traditional,
I
guess
bare
metal
route.
It
depends
how
many
nodes,
how
how
you're
structured
where
you
structured.
E
E
That's
where
a
lot
of
the
money
is
spent,
is
having
that
knowledge
and
being
able
to
have
robust
infrastructure
and
everything
so
having
backups
of
backups
of
backups,
ensuring
that
when
your
relays
are
set
up
properly
so
that
whoever
wherever
they
are
in
the
world,
when
the
rankings
change
the
plot
producer
before
me
and
after
me
is
always
optimized,
so
peer-to-peer
is
optimized
depending
on
where
they
are.
We
happen
to
be
right
between
a
vp
in
europe
and
a
dp
in
in
asia.
E
So
we're
like
we're
going
as
far
as
possible,
both
ways,
so
we've
had
to
specifically
architecture
things
a
certain
way.
Not
everybody
has
to
do
that.
You
might
be
in
a
location
where
there's
two
bps
closer
by
in
terms
of
geographical,
not
not
physical
location
but
node
location.
You
won't
necessarily
have
those
costs,
but
definitely
like
are
you?
Is
anybody
capable
of
tomorrow
to
spring
up?
No
there's
significant
cost
to
be
able
to
do
this.
E
Even
if
a
large
enterprise
wanted
to
you'd
be
able
to
load
the
notes,
but
what
happens
when
they
crash
what
happens
when
nobody
else
doesn't
behave?
The
way
you
want
it
to
that
you're
not
going
to
learn,
learn
overnight.
So
I
know
that
that
we
talked
about
earlier
what?
If
large
enterprises
were
to
come,
and
I
believe
they
will
come,
but
even
when
they
come,
are
they
ready
to
be
a
bp?
E
E
There
you
go
so
yeah
is
that
is
that
a
possibility
for
sure
I
see
that
as
a
possibility
in
the
future?
Yes-
and
I
think
that
that's
I
I've
always
taken
the
same
position.
I
think
that
that
is
a
positive
for
the
mainnet.
The
larger
the
network
grows,
the
more
you'll
want
entities
that
are
capable
of
running
at
a
deficit,
because
for
them,
that's
not
where
they're
making
money,
but
that
can
bring
other
things
and
we're
already
there.
C
B
B
He
was
just
disgruntled
with
with
talked
about
community
with
the
responses
and
and
the
direction
that
block
one
was
taking
at
the
time,
but
he
says
he
feels
much
more
confident
these
days
so
good
job
there
and,
as
we
kind
of
answer
this
max,
maybe
you
want
to
put
some
more
on
to
it.
But
what
strategic
partners
do
you
think,
would
center
synergize
with
the
eos
mainnet?
C
E
About
three
and
I'll
I'll
throw
a
projection
out
there
for,
for
obvious
reasons,
I
just
mentioned
cloud
costs
and
bare
metal
costs,
ibm's
a
natural
choice,
google,
microsoft
aws,
they
all
run
cloud.
Are
they
going
to
charge
themselves?
No,
not
so
much
they've
got
the
bandwidth.
Those
are
obvious
choices
the
equivalent
in
in
china.
A
That
that
that's
interesting
so
right
now,
it's
really
hard
to
get
into
a
paid
or
especially
producing
position
if
you're
not
offering
voter
rewards.
If
you've
said
about
90
percent
of
your
tokens
go
back
into
the
ecosystem
through
the
voting
rewards
and
yours
with
us
nation
are
all
on
chain,
so
you're
not
just
making
this
number
up.
E
A
When
the
herd,
as
novogratz
used
to
say
when
the
herd
starts
coming,
how
are
the
token
holders
going
to
vote?
Would
you
take
lower
voter
rewards
to
have
the
biggest
blue
chips
in
the
world
running
your
network?
To
like
it
depends,
I
guess,
if
you're
looking
long,
long-term
or
short-term
or
if
you're,
looking
selfish,
if
you're
looking
for
the
value
of
your
token
to
go
up
or
if
you're
a
token
to
stay
at
three
dollars
forever
as
a
stable
coin
and
earn
your
two
or
three
percent.
E
We
have
a
little
bit
of
everything
right
now,
so
this
is
the
the
beauty
of
the
way
that
the
system
is
set
up.
Right
now
is
that
you
have
your
choice
as
a
token
holder
how
and
who,
and
what
level
of
apr
you
want
to
get
so
some
people
are
offering
five
six
percent
apr
which,
like
for
those
who
don't
know
the
maximum
theoretical,
if
you're
in
the
in,
if
you're
in
the
block
producer
position
the
maximum
theoretical
that
you
can
give.
E
E
B
B
Know
there's
different
things
that
they
can
do
to
put
on
their
books
that
may
never
come
to
fruition.
They
could
just
have.
You
know,
have
some
other
rewards
there
that
don't
actually
leave
their
pocketbooks
like
eos
rewards,
do
or
voter
rewards?
Do
they
automate
and
go
out
every
day,
different
different
mechanisms
for.
E
Incentivizing
people
value
value
comes
in
very
different
ways
right,
so
we
offer
voter
rebates
as
one
of
the
things
we
offer
for
value,
but
when
we
build
tools
when
we
interact
with
the
community,
the
hot
sauce
whatever
it
is,
we
do.
Those
are
also
value
added
items
that
that
don't
necessarily
cost
us
something
tangibly,
but
there
is
a
cost,
sweat
equity
cost
or
time
cost
yeah.
F
A
F
F
B
B
A
Also
gonna
be
entities,
look
at
what
coinbase
is
doing
with
their
oracle
on
ethereum
like
their
trusted
entity,
you
don't
have
to
have
a
decentralized
oracle
system.
If
you
trust
coinbase,
it
depends
on
your
application
use
case
and
what
you
need
that
oracle
feed
for.
So
I
I
think
we're
gonna
see
something
like
that.
Even
potentially
from
coinbase
coinbase
could
potentially
even
be
one
of
these
block
producers
we're
talking
about
in
the
future,
we've
seen
every
other
major
exchange.
A
A
Last
year
they
coordinated
with
block
one
for
b1
june.
You
think,
like
they
just
showed
up
at
b1
june.
Without
planning
they
kicked
off
the
rewards
program.
You
could
earn
ten
dollars
of
eos
on
coinbase.
Where
do
you
think
that
eos
comes
from
someone
gave
them
that
eos
that
they've
been
giving
out
since
last
year,
at
b1
june,
like
there?
There
are
seeds
planted
all
across
the
ecosystem.
I
I
think
we're
going
to
see
some
really
interesting
stuff.
C
E
C
B
B
That
person
can't
go
in
there
and
game
the
system
and
have
multiple
people
voting
on
it.
So
it
would
be
a
very,
very
powerful
tool
for
eos
and
decentralization
if
you
knew
that
all
these
verified
accounts
were
on
eos
it'd
be
great
and
they
notice
here
we're
not
only
the
largest
ram
holder,
we're
the
largest
cpu
holder.
A
Maybe
so
I'd
be
happy
if
that's
something
we
got
on
the
15th,
I
don't
know
if
it's
gonna
happen.
So
even
if
voice
isn't
like
I
don't,
I
don't
know
what
they're
moving
to
the
mainland.
Maybe
it's
hashes.
Maybe
it's
something
else,
but
having
that
an
open
api,
for
example
that
allows
you
to
have
a
voice,
verified,
eos
accounts,
and
you
could
do
that
from
whatever
private
blockchain
voice
is
running
on.
A
Basically,
you
know
that
if
I'm
transacting
on
on
voice,
you
know
it's
me
because
I
kyc-
or
I
did
my
proof
of
liveliness
from
within
voice
if
I
could
create
a
transaction
where
I
basically
just
tell
it.
My
eos
mainnet
account-
and
I
say
this
is
me-
this
is
the
account
that
went
linked
to
my
voice-
account
submit
transaction
because
I'm
kyc,
because
I'm
a
real
person
on
the
voice,
private
blockchain.
It
knows
that
I'm
the
one
that
submitted
that
eos
mainnet
account.
A
So
then,
within
like
some
voice
database,
it
could
basically
have
it
registered
of
all
the
voice
verified,
eos
mainnet
accounts
linked
to
it.
I
want
to
see
something
like
that,
whether
it
happens
on
the
15th
or
not,
I
think,
there's
daps
out
there
and
vigor
dak
is
one
of
them
that
could
greatly
benefit
from
this
unique
identity
without
actually
having
voice
doing
much
on
the
main
net.
In
the
short
term,
all
they
need
to
do
is
pass
the
data
and
they
could
do
that
by
storing
it
in
their
ram
or
or
just
transacting.
A
B
You
know
we
talked
about
this
long
time
ago,
but
brendan
came
out
and
said
when
it
all
sinks
in
people
will
realize
that
that
how
big
of
a
deal?
This
is
that
social
media
and
the
eos
blockchain.
In
my
opinion,
there
isn't
anything
we
could
have
done
to
add
more
value
and
what
adds
value
to
the
eos
blockchain
is
bringing
in
verified
users,
thousands
hundreds
of
thousands,
millions,
potentially
of
verified
users
on
voice
getting
onto
the
eos
blockchain,
and
that's
how
you
add
the
most
value
to
eos.
A
B
B
If
you
will
communities
aren't
available
on
voice
right
now,
but
they
will
be
coming
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
a
publication
on
voice
and
make
voice
the
ability
to
for
people
to
come
and
find
their
specific
community
and
what
what
writer
wants
to
do
is
to
have
these.
We
don't
want
to
be
eos
writer
we
want
to
be.
You
know,
everybody
has
a
voice.
Everybody
can
come
in
and
find
really
good
content
within
these
separate
communities,
we're
starting
out
pretty
small.
B
B
We
have
bonds
with
nfts,
we've
got
sean
doing
the
popcorn,
and
then
we
have
all
these
community
managers
that
are
that
are
really
helping
us
bring
in
we've
right
now,
we're
almost
to
three
dozen
writers
that
we're
bringing
in
working
on
making
voice
a
good
platform
to
find
good
content,
and
we
hope
to
ramp
that
up
over
the
next
three
months.
So
when
october
15th
comes
and
voice
opens
up,
you
know
we're
just
just
helping
voice,
reach
the
masses
and
have
a
reason
for
people
to
come
to
voice.
C
B
These
guys,
the
btc
maximalists
everybody
are
using
an
eospace
platform
to
share
share
this
knowledge.
So
if
we
continue
to
bring
other
people
along
it'll
be
a
great
exposure
to
eos
from
other
other
networks.
So
hopefully
we
can
do
that
if
you
think
that
you
would
like
to
join
a
writer
company
and
be
a
be
a
writer
with
us-
and
let
us
know-
please
please
reach
out
to
me-
please
reach
out
to
sean,
please
reach
out
to
kenny
we're
looking
for
good
content.
B
A
And
thank
you
spirit.
Shout
out
shout
out
to
adriana
from
cypherglass.
She
said
great
show
guys.
Five
dollar
tip
nova
crypto
gave
another
swiss
franc,
zach
quezada
from
layer.
One
podcast
gave
a
five
dollar
tip
a
little
bit
ago.
So
thank
you
to
you
guys,
thanks
for
oh
we're
down
to
146
on
the
live
stream,
but
that's
okay,
man
we're
two
and
a
half
hours
in.
I
guess
this
is
what
happens:
we're
not
doing
everything
yes
for
like
over
a
month,
we
gotta
we
gotta,
go
long.
B
C
B
D
A
B
Red
hair,
blue
or
green
eyes,
yeah
I'd,
say
blue
or
green
good.
I,
like
some
red
brown
brown
eyes
too,
all
right.
We
already
answered
this
one.
How
do
you
feel
about
b1's
involvement
community
over
the
last
year?
We
can
skip
that
one.
This
is
from
khanos
khan.
Krypto
on
twitter
can
eos
compete
with
d5
projects
on
ethereum
hell.
B
F
B
C
B
No
advice:
we
talked
about
the
eth
costs
earlier
and
yam
and
and
kind
of
made
fun
of
that
I
mean
when
you're
trying
to
transact
on
anything
and
you
can't
you
can't
micro
transact.
You
can't
buy
a
small
pool
of
anything
300
bucks
and
it's
going
to
cost
you
10
15
20
bucks,
you're
not
going
to
do
it,
you
better
be
doing
large
scale.
B
The
d5
boom
is
taking
away
the
the
decentralized
aspect
of
of
of
crypto,
because
most
of
the
world
can't
afford
a
20
25
30
transaction.
Can
you
afford
potentially
free
transactions
on
eos?
You
know
if
if
vigor
pays
for
the
transaction
on
eos,
it
doesn't
cost
you
any
transaction
fee
to
do
that.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind.
Yes,
it's
coming
he's
mentioned
a
lot
of
great
things
earlier,
with
usdt
and
other
stuff
happening.
A
I
would
like
to
call
it
a
few
other
big
projects
defy
box
is
awesome
for
liquidity
pools
shout
out
to
them
they're
and
nudex.
Let's
shout
out
nudex
they're
funding
projects
they
created,
I
don't
think
they're
grants,
but
they
have
an
investment
program
that
they're
basically
investing
in
d5
projects.
A
There's
someone
who
else
is
investing
in
defy
right
now
someone
else
says:
bitfinex,
they
announced
a
fund
and
then
there's
there's
also
block
producers
that
have
been
launching
products
and
non-block
producers.
Also
there's
that
was
it
alcor
exchange.
Is
that
how
you
say
it
yeah?
I
think
so,
yeah
that
that's
another
product,
so
there's
all
kinds
of
stuff
in
the
works.
A
The
thing
we're
lacking
is
liquidity
and,
as
eve
said
in
like
hour
one
whenever
that
was
feels
like
forever
ago,
there
is
liquidity
coming
and
it's
not
just
from
block
one,
but
I
I
think
a
chunk
of
it
will
be
from
block
one
in
a
way,
but
I
I
think
there
there's
more
people
coming.
As
yves
said,
there
there's
some
whales,
whispering
there's
some
people
that
want
to
park
capital
and
eos,
I
think,
is
as
good
a
place
as
ever,
and
I
I
think
it's
it's
ripe
for
an
explosion.
B
C
A
A
B
F
B
B
A
The
whole
idea
was
to
grow
it
so
that
when
voice
would
launch
we'd
be
able
to
monetize
the
podcast
through
voice
so
honestly
like
when
voice
launched
and
the
tokens
didn't
have
value,
that's
kind
of
whenever
our
two-year
business
model
kind
of
fell
apart.
That
was
basically
the
long-term
revenue
strategy
for
doing
this
podcast,
so
I'll.
Just
throw
that
out.
There.
C
B
B
B
Okay,
that
makes
sense
right,
and
then
this
was
after
june,
or
this
is
right
before
june,
one
what
our
marketing
has
not
yet
begun-
and
this
is
the
last
one
here-
is
right
after
june
1st-
and
it
says
it
is
just
beginning-
so
this
was
after
june
1st
and
then
this
was
just
recently.
This
was
january,
31st,
2020
marketing
and
technology
and
he's
talking
about
ethereum
here
they
think
about
marking
a
technology
prematurely
can
set
the
adoption
back.
B
In
my
opinion,
there
are
a
large
number
of
unresolved
usability
security
issues
with
all
blockchain
tech
that
must
be
addressed
before
marketing
users
is
justified.
So
maybe
it's
it's
you're
right
max.
Maybe
they
do
some
large
super
bowl.
Commercial
marketing
has
just
begun
marketing,
unlike
anything
you've
seen
in
crypto.
What,
if
they
just
market
voice,
they
just
market
voice,
you
get
the
voice
account
you
get.
The
eos
account
it's
easy.
B
A
B
A
B
B
Tokens
have
real
value,
probably
not
until
after
october
15th,
because
that's
what
they
claim
to
be
the
last
reset,
so
maybe
as
soon
as
october,
15th
they're
about
now
whether
real
value
is
one
billionth
of
a
penny
until
they
start
bringing
on
advertisers
and
other
people
that
want
to
reach
out
to
the
users,
the
verified
real
users
and
there's
enough
of
a
market
there
to
do
so.
I
don't
think
that
you'll
see
a
true.
A
Value,
I
I
have
to
address
the
live
chat,
so
I
think
we
talked
about
earlier,
something
that,
like
livened
up
the
eos
community.
One
of
my
favorite
things
I
saw
in
the
last
couple
weeks
was
dan
and
hoskinson
going
at
it
on
twitter
back
and
forth,
and
then
literally
two
weeks
later,
all
of
the
nodes
on
on
the
cardano,
like
shelly
blockchain
network.
It
shows
exactly
what
dan
said
was
gonna
happen
with
the
pareto.
B
A
So
I
was
told
to
tell
the
hoskinson
story:
the
charles
hoskinson
story
that
layer
one
podcast
wants
me
to
retell.
So
back
in
2018,
I
was
with
a
company
called
ico
alert.
That's
why
I
met
mike
finch,
rob
finch
and
layer,
one
podcast,
all
those
guys,
we're
all
one
bunch.
We
were
in
california
for
a
concert
token
or
not,
concerted
conference
tokenfest.
A
I
thought
it
was
cool.
We
had
a
booth
there.
We
sponsored
the
the
conference,
we
had
a
booth
and
I
was
like
how
can
we
get
people
to
engage
with
our
booth?
So
I
bought
a
bunch
of
these
giant
cardboard
heads
that
you
could
like
hold
on
a
stick
in
front
of
yourself
so
that
people
could
take
selfies.
I
had
everyone
had
dan,
I
had
vitalik.
I
had
I
forget
who
else
I
had.
I
had
andreas
all
these
people,
it's
like
8am,
it's
an
hour
before
the
conference
started.
A
We
have
all
the
heads
laid
out
on
the
counter.
Hoskinson
is
at
our
booth.
Looking
through
the
heads
looking
for
his
own
head,
he
doesn't
see
his
head
he's,
holding
dan
larimer's
big
head
in
front
of
him
and
he
looks
up
and
he
said:
where's
mine
and
mike
finch
rob
finch's.
Brother
has
no
freaking
idea
that
this
is
charles,
hoskinson
and
he's
like.
He
just
thinks
he's
a
regular
guy
and
he's
like.
We
don't
have
him.
We
could
be
dan
for
a
day.
B
B
C
C
B
C
C
C
A
C
I
mean
yeah,
I
don't
know
and
that
a
little
known
project
that
I
personally
love
is
that
block
based.
That's
a
block
based
network
block
based
network
is
the
website.
I
mean
that's
the
absolute
perfect
use
case
for
eos
and
they're
really
far
along
further
than
you'd.
Think
in
development-
and
I
don't
know
I,
the
guy
ricardo
schiller
is
amazing.
I
mean.
E
E
One
that
we
actually
didn't
mention,
but
zach
did
try
to
interject
the
liquid
apps.
Liquid
absolutely
is
doing
some
amazing
things.
We
I
mean
they've,
been
giving
out
bounties
how
many
other
projects
are
actually
gaming
out,
bounties
with
actual
liquidity,
actual
value
in
eos
they're,
really,
the
only
one
that
really
stands
out
and
they've
got
a
slew
of
products,
a
slew
of
services
and
actual
applications
are
using
them,
so
liquid,
apps,
shut
out
max,
is
wearing
the
shirt
right
now.
So,
if
you're
not
sure
what
the
logo
is
just
look
at
max.
E
A
Zone,
that's
true,
always
good
stuff,
but
as
far
as
the
bounties
yeah,
if
you're
an
enterprising
developer
like
and
you
want
to
make
a
living
or
just
even
a
part-time
gig
living
on
blockchain
technology
like
these
bounties
are
available
like
if
there's
several
of
them
liquid
store
like
they're,
you
could
build
oracles
with
you
can
connect
chain
link
to
the
eos
main
that
which
will
it
probably
be
good.
If
you're
like
in
the
link
army
link
marines,
whatever
they're
called
you
could
set
that
up,
we
got
liquid
storage.
A
I
think
we
have
usage
grants.
We
just
had
the
reddit
bounty,
which
eos
nation
was
part
of,
is
part
of,
but
yeah
we'll
have
more
on
that
I
got
a
bunch
of
liquor,
apps
content
coming
out
over
the
next
month.
That's
why
I
wanted
to
get
this
episode
out
because
I'm
gonna
be
slammed
for
the
next
couple
weeks.
Well,
we'll
probably
two
videos
a
week
coming
out
leading
up
to
something
exciting
that
we
have
going
on
in
the
very
near
future.
B
C
E
B
B
A
A
B
A
I
I
think,
we'll
see
some.
I
don't
know
what,
though,
like
he
block
one's,
been
very
quiet
with
like
his
involvement
and
like
he's
so
such
a
big
entity
that
he
could
potentially
be
making
investments
through
his
funds
that
he's
not
like
directly
involved
with,
because
he's
invested
in
like
hundreds
of
projects,
so
I
really
don't
know
his
involvement.
A
E
Yes,
that's
a
really
good
question
when
you,
when
you
talked
about
earlier,
what
are
the
potential
changes
to
come
within
the
next
year
and
I
touched
upon
the
resource
model.
I
touched
upon
something
else,
and
now
it
not
escapes
me
but
bonds.
So
the
the
bonds
were
also
key
to
the
resource
model
in
some
ways
they
perform,
and
I
do
believe
that
we're
going
to
be
and
we've
already
we've
internally
been
testing
out
bonds
and
testing
out
kind
of
general
idea
of
how
this
works.
E
We've
been
running
out
the
theory
and
and
actual
code
and
formulas
to
see
how
they
would
react
for
a
very
long
time
now,
and
I
I
foresee
that
they
will
be
coming
out
and
we're
big
supporters
of
those,
and
that
may
or
may
not
be
a
part
of
the
resource
system.
I'm
not
speculating
here,
I'm
literally
not.
I
believe
that
it
might
be
a
component
to
that
and
I
believe
that
yeah
we're
gonna
see
in
the
next.
Let's
say
six
months:
that's
that's
possibly
gonna
be
something.
That's
gonna,
be
ramping
up.
E
What
I've
been
saying
for
those
who
actually
follow
me
in
in
channels
that
I
do
speak
out
more
so,
and
one
of
them
would
be-
I
guess,
the
mainnet
bp
channel,
because
it's
comprised
of
the
other
bps,
but
at
this
point
I
think
there's
five
six
hundred
people
on
that
channel.
What
I
believe
is
going
to
happen
is
that
the
narrative
around
the
eos
token
was
very
much.
So
your
token
gives
you
access
to
resources,
and
so
it
was
a
resource
token.
E
I
believe
that
the
shift
that
we
are
seeing
is
that
eos
will
become
a
value
token,
and
the
bonds
and
the
resource
model
are
are
key
components
of
this,
and
so
the
narrative
will
no
longer
be
as
much
you
own
you
own,
a
certain
amount
of
eos,
and
it
gives
you
access
to
the
resources
on
the
network.
It
will
be
you
own
eos
and
it's
got
value.
It's
a
value
token.
B
A
E
E
B
E
The
resources
component
of
things,
because
people
use
we
don't
we
shouldn't
use
and
we
we
don't
use
free
resources
or
free
free
transactions.
That's
not
a
thing.
It
was
fee
list
transactions,
somebody
for
some
reason
added
an
r
in
there,
so
their
feel
is
transactions
and
they
are
fearless
transactions,
but
the
interaction
with
the
blockchain
for
that
in
the
very
beginning
was
quite
clunky.
E
I
mean
when
eos
launched,
we
didn't
even
have
a
wallet,
and
so
you
were
interacting
using
either
a
node.js
direct
clios
directly
or
you
were
using
the
eosc
tool,
for
example
from
eos
canada.
Over
time.
We've
now
built
the
tools
and
we've
been
able
to
at
this
point,
if
you're
still
paying
for
resources
to
use
your
eos
account
you're
doing
things,
I
mean
that
they're
you're
you're
doing
things
wrong.
There
are
multiple
portals
most
of
the
wallets
most
of
the
block
explorers.
E
They
all
pay
for
you
right,
but
the
concept
of
resources
are
still
very
much
present
for
developers.
My
opinion,
what
I
believe
we're
heading
towards
and
we're
going
to
be,
facilitating
this
and
we're
we're
specifically
building
things
out
for
this
eos
nation.
Is
that
not
only
will
resources
be
abstracted
away
from
the
end
user,
but
they'll
be
abstracted
away
from
the
developer
so
that
the
end
user
will
be
two
levels
removed
of
what
resources
are.
E
Resources
still
exist,
though,
just
because
we
have
a
new
resource
model
doesn't
mean
that
we
now
have
an
infinite
amount
of
cpu
bandwidth,
etc.
Those
still
exist,
they'll
just
be
abstracted
away
from
the
users
and,
more
so
from
the
developers,
so
that
you're
the
developer.
It
was
always
said
that
the
idea
is
that
the
developers
should
focus
on
developing
and
that
eos
itself
is
kind
of
the
let's
say:
slss
sl
protocol
layer
of
the
internet,
where
you
no
longer
need
to
take
care
of
security.
Well,
now
we're
going
to
abstract
that
further.
E
Well,
you
also
don't
need
to
take
care
of
resources
of
what
a
blockchain
is,
and
that's
just
going
to
be
abstracted
away
from
you
and
you're
going
to
have
these
middle
layer
solutions
and,
and
some
already
exist,
for
example,
grey
mass
fuel.
Those
are
just
going
to
expand
further
and
we're
going
to
see
integration
with
the
resource
model.
That's
being
worked
on
so
that
really
expands
everything,
and
I
believe
that
the
bonds,
the
pools
are
a
key
component
of
that
and
the
bonds
in
the
pools
are
key
component
of
eos
becoming
a
value
token.
A
And
to
add
to
that
I
don't
remember
everything
about
the
bonds,
but
I
think
the
longest
one
proposes
like
a
10-year
bond.
I
want
to
go
back
to
if
the
enterprises
decided
it
was
the
right
time
to
want
to
join
the
eos
public
network.
They
wouldn't
have
to
invest
a
ton
of
money.
Oh
it'd
still
be
a
significant
amount
of
money,
but
they
wouldn't
have
to
invest
as
much
for
vote
power
if
they're
willing
to
lock
up
their
tokens
in
the
10-year
bond.
A
E
B
E
A
B
B
C
C
E
A
B
A
Okay,
all
right,
I
have
a
question.
I
have
no
idea
of
the
answer
so
a
long
time
ago,
before
the
main
that
launched
or
even
after
the
main
launch,
we
were
like
looking
at
like
1b1
wallet,
is
there
ever
going
to
be
a
b1
wallet
in
any
capacity
or
or
is
it
they
open
sourced
their
library
for
the
authenticator
library
last
year?
Is
that
the
end
of
it
or
will
we
see
a
block
one
or
voice
or
any
future
product
branded
wallet.