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Fargo Public Schools - Board of Education Meeting - Live Broadcast - June 10, 2014
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
in
the
fargo
school
board
to
order
approval
of
the
agenda,
please
robin.
A
Thank
you.
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
same
sign.
Thank
you
correspondence.
Anyone
with
any
correspondence
to
share
okay.
Thank
you.
No
one
signed
up
from
the
audience,
so
we
will
move
on
to
staff
reports,
administrative
leave
and
suspension
policy.
Dr
schatz.
C
Thank
you
this
evening,
we're
bringing
you
three
policies
for
your
information
and
any
feedback
that
you
might
have
the
first
one
I'll
take
the
next
two
I'll
introduce
brock
and
bob
for
the
policies
that
they'll
talk
about
the
first
one
is
ap
5223.
This
is
a
new
policy.
C
C
A
C
Okay,
moving
on
to
ap,
3510
community
use
of
facilities
and
update
brock
was
in
charge
of
a
task
force
that
took
a
look
at
this
policy.
They've
spent
a
good
majority
of
the
year
with
a
large
task
force
looking
at
this
policy.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
brock
to
provide
you
with
some
of
the
details
of
that
policy.
D
Madam
president,
members
of
the
board,
as
dr
schatz
indicated,
we
spent
the
better
part
of
the
last
year
really
reviewing
policy
35
10
for
really
consistency
of
application
throughout
the
district
and
just
to
try
to
get
a
handle
on
exactly
what
all
is
allowable
to
be
in
our
buildings.
What
do
we
use
them
for?
How
do
we
categorize,
who
uses
the
facilities
at
what
charge
if
any
etc?
D
And
so
we
had
a
task
force
led
by
myself
and
district
activities,
director,
todd,
olson
and
a
wide
range
of
people
throughout
the
district,
including
activities,
directors
and
principals
at
all
levels,
to
really
provide
input
as
to
what
do
they
see
coming
as
requests
in
their
buildings?
How
have
that
been
handled?
You
know
how
do
we
have
a
consistent
application
and
really
the
goal
is
to
try
to
get
to
a
place
where
we're
not
having
outside
organizations
if
they
want
to
use
our
facilities,
we
don't
want
to
pit
building
against
building.
D
We
want
to
make
sure
that
no
matter
which
building
you
go
to
it
was
one
of
the
primary
goals,
no
matter
which
building
you
go
to.
You
get
the
same
answer
as
far
as
use
of
gyms
use
of
classrooms
use
of
common
spaces.
You
should
get
the
same
response
at
the
same
rate
throughout
the
district
and
really
just
trying
to
get
a
good
handle
on
that.
So
we
broke
this
up
into
different
segments.
We
had
subcommittees
work
on
each
individual
segment
from
general
provisions
to
financial
procedures.
Things
of
that
nature.
D
We're
going
to
put
a
pilot
in
place
at
our
carl
ben
nielsen
on
a
more
streamlined
financial
procedure
that
is
really
billing
through
our
existing
system.
So
everything
can
be
happening
online
to
just
really
get
a
better
handle
on
all
of
those
aspects,
and
we
feel
that,
although
fairly
cumbersome,
because
it's
a
large
policy
because
there's
certainly
a
lot
of
moving
parts,
we
feel
we
have
a
cleaner
policy
with
much
more
consistent
application
as
well
as
broader
understanding.
D
For
me,
one
of
the
best
values
in
this
process
was
having
a
number
of
people
at
the
table
that
really
dug
into
the
policy
in
great
detail
to
have
a
much
better
understanding
of
what
it
is
that
we're
trying
to
do
throughout
the
district.
So
I
could
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
in
that
regard,
but
that's
a
general
overview
of
what
we
tried
to
accomplish
in
reviewing
the
policy
rusty.
E
Not
really
a
question,
but
just
thanks
for
doing
this.
I
would
hear
oftentimes
from
people
thinking
that
someone
was
getting
a
better
deal
at
a
different
facility
and
whatnot,
but
I
I
would
assume
this
took
a
lot
of
time,
but
I
think
for
us
moving
forward.
Consistency
is
key
and
thanks
for
taking
this
on.
A
D
Members
of
the
board,
robin
you
know,
nothing
changed
significantly.
I
think
you
know
we
tried
to
take
what
was
in
place
and
said.
Okay,
if
that
applies
to
this
type
of
organization,
do
we
have
have
we
represented
all
like
organizations,
so,
for
example,
in
the
section
that
has
types
of
groups
there
are
three
categories
of
groups
tried
to
try
to
group
them
by
very
like
organizations
in
the
old
policy.
I
believe
there
were
four
and
some
of
them
were
maybe
misplaced.
They
were
in
one
area
and
they
should
be
in
another.
D
So
you
know
it's
difficult
for
me
to
point
to
one
thing
and
say:
okay,
that
change
completely
or
went
away
completely
or
was
completely
overhauled.
It
was
really
adjusting
which
groups
we
had
our
facilities
open
to
organizations
that
do
similar
types
of
things
that
we
have
agreements
with
like
the
park.
District
or
organizations
like
that
that
are
in
the
right
category.
They
are
charged
or
they're,
not
charged
they're
charged
for
extra
staff.
D
F
Chris,
just
to
clarify
brock,
I'm
a
little
confused,
there's
group,
like
groups
like
the
good
news
club,
which
is
the
child
evangelism
fellowship
which
meets
at
some
of
our
elementary
schools
after
school,
and
also
the
all-pro
dads
which
has
a
religious
base.
D
Members
of
the
board,
chris,
there
is
a
specific
reference,
and
that
was
one
of
the
inconsistency
pieces.
Are
we
have
that
the
separation
of
church
and
state
peace
and
then
in
our
policy
we
had
the
ability
to
we've
rented
to
churches
before
that
we're
building,
and
so
did
we
have
okay.
We
do
it
in
this
case,
but
we
don't
do
it
in
this
case,
and
should
we
be
doing
that
and
I
in
these
multiple
pages,
would
I
can
find
a
specific
reference
to
how
we
address
that
and
and
get
that
to
you.
I
can't.
A
It
says
here:
yeah,
church
organizations
for
regular
services
or
functions
is
a
category
three.
D
And
and
so
there's
a
difference,
we
saw
that
as
different
and,
as
you
recall,
some
of
the
organizations
that
you
referenced.
We
specifically
addressed
dr
schatz
address
this
past
year
and
made
sure
again
that,
are
we
being
consistent
and
are
we?
Is
there
a
conflict
of
interest
between
what
our
policy
says
and
what
is
allowable
at
the
buildings
and
have
we
addressed
that
specifically?
D
And
so
we
have
allowed
for
some
of
those
things
with
churches
for
those
types
of
purposes,
but
be
very
careful
with
an
organization
with
a
different
message,
philosophically
than
we
should
be
doing
in
our
schools.
A
Thank
you
can
I
just
say
to
brock
to
clarify
if
there's
a
difference
between
a
church,
renting
a
gym
to
have
their
regular
weekly
services,
as
opposed
to
an
organization
with
religious
beliefs
wanting
to
come
on
and
do
a
program
for
our
students,
so
it
that's
part
of
the
the
difference.
Is
that
clear
that
okay?
Okay?
Good?
Thank
you
any
other
questions,
john.
G
Madame
president,
members
of
the
board
brock-
I'm
I'm
not
sure
I
see
this
in
here,
but
I
have
I've
heard
of
a
concern
in
our
community
with
new
americans,
for
example,
the
somalians
the
sudanese
and
the
bhutanese
that
are
rather
new
here,
that
are
refugees
and
one
of
their
as
I
gather.
One
of
the
biggest
needs
they
have
in
their
community
is
something
as
simple
as
access
to
soccer
fields.
G
They
when
they're
refugees.
They
have
a
window
of
time
that,
as
you
know,
where
life
is
pretty
tough
and
they
can't
they
can't
fall
out
of
line
so
having
their
kids
being
active
and
engaged
is,
is
just
so
so
key.
So
it's
just
a
thought
that
I've
been
hearing
this
multiple
times
from
three
different
new
american
communities.
D
And
to
that
note,
if
you
look
on
page
14,
we
tried
to
identify
fields
and
one
of
the
differences
there
is
there
a
lot
of
those
fields
either
have
a
joint
powers,
agreement
with
house
in
the
park
district
or
maybe
are
solely
owned
by
the
park
district,
and
so
the
ownership
for
lack
of
better
word
of
that
space
may
not
fall
to
us
for
decision
making
as
much
as
the
park
district
and
we
did
identify
those
that's
new
to
the
policy
where
we
didn't
have
all
of
our
outdoor
fields
and
we
frankly,
todd
can
probably
speak
better
to
this,
but
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
get
very
few
requests
for
the
outdoor
facilities.
C
H
Thank
you
very
much
attached
to
memo
133.
You
will
see
the
aquatics
policy.
This
was
designed
by
a
10-member
task
force.
We
had
three
assistant
principals
or
activity
coordinators
from
the
district
level:
three
high
school
physical
education
teachers,
our
director
of
student
activities,
our
custodial
supervisor,
two
community
members,
one
from
the
park
board
and
one
from
the
ymca
who
deal
with
the
aquatics
programs.
I
H
We
also
talked
about
our
co-curricular
activities
if
it's
swimming,
if
it's
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
do
in
our
pool
and
you'll
notice
that
there's
a
section
there
that
talks
about
the
requirement
for
lifeguards
during
that
type
of
activity
as
well,
and
then
finally,
we
talked
about
what
do
we
do
when
we
either
rent
the
the
pool
to
someone
during
through
the
rental
process
or
with
our
partners,
if
that
would
be
the
gators
or
some
of
the
other
organizations
who
use
the
pool,
and
there
are
sections
that
articulate
the
type
and
the
number
of
lifeguards
that
are
required
during
those
activities
as
well.
H
Then.
Finally,
we
talked
about
what
we
want
in
our
own
district
when
it
comes
to
the
professional
development
for
our
own
staff
and
you'll
notice.
There's
a
section
in
here
that
talks
about
any
of
our
teachers
or
coaches,
who
will
be
leading
an
aquatic
activity,
will
have
their
lifeguard
certification
and
cpr
certification,
that's
part
of
the
policy
and
then
finally,
we
talk
about
the
equipment
that
needs
to
be
in
the
pool
and
closure
area
for
safety
of
anyone
involved
in
that
activity.
J
H
F
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
crafting
such
a
thorough
policy
and
also,
I
hope
that,
since
we're
clearly
on
the
cutting
edge,
leading
the
charge
with
this
policy,
that
other
state
and
and
other
areas
will
take
this
and
run
with
it,
because
it
seems
necessary-
and
it's
just
really
terrific.
Thank
you.
C
I
have
a
meeting
with
the
north
dakota
study
council,
which
is
the
superintendents
of
the
largest
16
schools
in
the
state
and
I'll,
be
putting
this
on
our
agenda
for
discussion
and
sharing
it
with
them.
I've
had
a
couple
of
superintendents
eagerly
awaiting
us
bringing
this
forward
so
that
they
could
use
it.
I
think,
is
what
you're
going
to
see
happen,
but
yeah.
We
feel
very
good
that
it's
as
comprehensive
as
probably
any
policy
you're
going
to
find
across
the
country.
K
G
Madame
president,
members
of
the
board,
I'm
I'm
just
curious.
If,
if
we
have
somebody
who
is
hearing
impaired
or
a
student
who
is
essentially
hearing
impaired
because
they
don't
speak
english
and-
and
we
have
a
community
with-
I
hear
anywhere
from
27
to
31
countries
is,
is
there
room
to
work
interpreters
into
such
situations
so
that
we're
also
aware
of
the
highest
level
of
communication
achievable?
I
know
it's
it's
new
turf
for
all
of
us,
but
but
I'm
just
curious,
if
that's
ever,
something
that
could
be
explored
or
has
been
explored.
C
I
think
moving
forward
training
with
our
teachers
to
ascertain
whether
certain
students
should
even
be
in
the
pool
is
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
about,
and
if
we
can
provide
the
types
of
services
that
would
allow
that
to
happen,
then,
certainly
we'll
do
everything
we
can,
but
at
this
time
that's
something
that
is
just
a
resource
that
throughout
the
city
and
all
programs
in
all
areas
is
really
lacking
in
and
the
resources
for
it.
So
again,
something
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
too
moving
forward.
G
F
Finding
an
interpreter,
so
the
pool
is
small,
but
right
now
I
put
them
in
my
mouth
there's
a
program
that
was
started
by
a
couple
by
the
name
of
michelle
and
tony
mcrae,
and
it's
called
giving
plus
learning
and
it's
a
community
program
where
it's,
where
folks
take
new
american
families
into
their
home
and
teach
them
the
language
and
that
expands
our
pool
of
interpreters
and
also
helps
our
students
learning
english
so
that
their
folks
at
home
are
also
learning
the
language
and
so
that
they
don't
wind
up
being
the
interpreters
between
the
school
and
their
parents,
and
it
actually
solves
a
whole
host
of
problems
that
impacts
education.
F
C
And
just
one
follow-up
comment
to
that
as
I've
been
working
with
kevin
too
and
talking
with
kevin
about
what
he's
trying
to
do
here
in
fargo,
and
it
fits
right
into
the
other
conversation.
We
had
a
few
meetings
ago
about
taking
a
comprehensive
look
at
all
of
our
services
across
the
board,
with
our
new
american
students
and
seeing
how
we
can
start
to
make
an
impact
and
a
lot
of
these
things
that
we
need
to
do
things
probably
a
little
bit
differently
and
more
comprehensively
across
the
city.
A
Anyone
else
have
any
questions
regarding
this
policy.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
It
sounds
like
three
very
comprehensive
policies
that
took
a
lot
of
time
and
effort,
but
moving
forward,
I
think
they're
very
valuable.
So
thank
you
for
all
the
time
and
effort
for
those
who
put
the
time
and
effort
into
developing
them.
Any
other
staff
reports
brock.
D
The
association
of
school
board
officials
for
the
10th
year
in
a
row
awarded
a
certificate
of
excellence
to
fargo
public
schools
for
financial
reporting,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
that
you're
aware
that
we
continue
to
strive
to
do
the
best
job
we
can
in
the
area
of
our
financial
reporting
and
all
of
the
financial
work
that
we
do
throughout
the
year,
and
we
did
that
certification
and
notice
of
such
recently.
So
I
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention,
and
certainly
that
is
a
credit
to
the
team
that
I
have.
D
We've
got
a
great
team
in
our
accounting
department,
the
director
jackie
gap,
you
most
of
you
know
her
well
and
her
team,
joy,
redrath
and
patty
richards
and
all
of
them
frankly
that
work
in
that
area.
We
have
three
cpas
on
staff
and
they
all
do
an
excellent
job,
and
this
is
really
a
result
of
their
work
and
I
think
more
often
than
not,
I
or
jeff
or
the
board
get
a
lot
of
credit
for
things
that
a
lot
of
people
on
our
team
do.
In
this.
C
Just
give
you
a
real
short
construction
update
on
things
that
are
going
on
with
our
facilities
over
centennial
this
week
they
are
cleaning
up
the
back
side
of
the
school
they're
able
to
get
in
now
and
start
doing
some
of
the
landscaping
that
needed
to
happen
after
completing
the
facility
last
spring
they're
pouring
some
concrete
they're
getting
the
driveway
put
back
in
so
the
playground
things
like
that
over
there,
things
should
get
cleaned
up
there
relatively
soon.
So
that's
moving
forward
and
that'll
complete
that
project
with
the
hvac
projects.
C
Now
that
school's
out
there
moving
forward
very
quickly
this
week,
three
of
the
chillers
came
in.
You
know,
that's
a
big
event
when
you're
doing
these
these
things,
so
you
see
the
semi
coming
with
the
chiller
on
it.
So
so
that's
you
know
we're
we're
encouraged
with
the
progress
that's
being
made
and
everything
seems
to
be
moving
forward
well
over
at
ed
clap.
C
They
have
now
put
got
the
soil
to
a
place
now,
where
they're
going
to
start
actually
putting
the
footings
down,
which
is
really
a
big
deal
when
it's
coming
to
do.
Projects
is
when
you
get
the
footings
going
in.
That
means
things
are
going
to
start
happening,
you're
going
to
start
seeing
walls
go
up
and
all
those
types
of
things
so
again
with
all
the
rain
we've
had.
C
I'm
pretty
pleased
with
the
fact
that
we're
really
not
behind
at
all
on
that
project
and
so
they've
been
able
to
really
shape
that
up
and-
and
we
feel
good
about-
where
that's
at
so
and
then,
of
course,
there's
just
a
myriad
of
different
things
going
on
across
the
district.
Now
that
it's
summer,
as
far
as
trying
to
get
in
and
get
things
fixed
and
freshened
up,
and
so
jim
and
his
crew
are
110
working
hard
and
we
look
forward
to
a
lot
of
really
good
things
getting
done
here
this
summer.
A
Great,
thank
you,
anne
marie
okay.
In
that
case,
we
are
at
the
consent
agenda,
robin.
A
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
same
sign.
Thank
you,
el10,
communication
and
counsel
to
the
board.
This
was
pretty
straightforward.
There's
a
few
comments,
but
no
recommendations.
So
I
would
appreciate
emotion.
L
I
move
we
accept
monitoring
report
el10,
as
outlined
in
memo
134.
A
A
Is
it
whatever
our
policy
so
that
the
canvassing
board
I.e
the
folks
that
just
go
around
and
check
who's
interested
in
serving
as
president
and
vice
president
for
our
next
year
after
tonight,
you'll
know
how
many
people
you
need
to
canvas
and
the
canvassing
board
is
made
up
of
the
non-officers
and
the
governance
committee,
which
means
jim
robin
and
rick,
and
I'd
like
to
give
rick
his
last
official
duty
as
being
the
chair
of
that
committee.
If
no
one
has
any
objections,
so
it
there's
no
need
to
have
a
motion
or
anything.
A
A
G
Am,
madam
president,
then
I
will
probably
yield
the
floor
to
the
brock
leets.
The
committee
sent
out
a
a
survey
to
their
members
to
get
some
feedback
about
alternatives
that
they
were
had
on
the
plate.
To
to
look
at
one
of
the
good
things
is.
It
appears
that
the
blue
cross
expected
increase,
wasn't
going
to
be
as
significant
as
as
it
was
earlier
projected
to
be,
but
bear
in
mind.
Last
year
it
was
like
1.9
percent
or
so
so
long
long
story
short.
G
If
you
turn
your
sheet
around
you'll
see
basically
that
it'll
become
a
21
79
split,
it
had
been
80
20
and
the
increase
to
the
district.
With
this
proposal,
if
accepted,
will
be
6.5
percent
and
the
increase
to
the
employee
will
be
7.
12.76
percent
so
they're
picking
up
almost
twice
as
much
of
the
increase
as
the
as
the
district
would
be,
but
it's
it's
still
and
I'll
defer
to
you
brock.
This
still
isn't
we
aren't.
G
We
aren't
out
of
the
woods
at
all
yet,
but
it
gets
us
another
year
down
the
path
as
we
with
our
consultant,
explore
drill
deeper
into
alternatives
and
options
and
and
see
more
where
trends
go
with
the
affordable
health
care
act,
and
things
like
that.
So
again,
I
wasn't
part
of
this
survey,
but
that's
as
I
interpret
it
and
I
believe
I'm
representing
rather
well
and
brock.
If
you
could
provide
more
detail,
that'd
be
appreciated.
D
K
D
Chair
of
the
health
insurance
committee,
and
we
feel
that
it's
important
that
you
hear
directly
from
the
committee
themselves
and
and
the
folks
that
john
represents
so
with
john
strand's
introduction,
we'll
let
john
nelson
give
you
the
particulars
of
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
today.
A
M
All
right,
as
brock
said,
I'm
john
nelson
principal
of
ben
franklin
and
chair
of
the
health
insurance
committee.
Actually,
member
of
the
health
insurance
committee
since
1991.
K
M
And
that's
when
this,
when
this
all
started,
was
our
old
plan
before
1991,
if
you
were
hospitalized,
you
were
100
had
100
coverage,
zero
cost
to
an
employee.
At
that
point,
and
in
91
we
came
to
the
realization
that
that's
no
longer
affordable.
Well,
there
are
lots
of
things
that
are
no
longer
affordable
with
health
health
care.
M
M
Yet
we
do
it
in
a
reasonable
and
cost
effective
way.
I
think
the
our
committee
really
believes
that,
with
the
help
of
our
consultant,
we
will
really
be
able
to
get
things
moving.
Now
we
have
been
looking
at
some
high
deductible
plans
and
health
savings
accounts,
changes
in
deductibles
changes
in
co-pays
changes
in
contribution
levels,
and
this
time
we
did
a
little
a
little
bit
everything
after
we
got
our
input
from
our
from
our
meetings
and
from
our
first
survey.
M
Our
first
survey
came
back
split
number
of
people
that
wanted
just
a
change
in
contribution
share
versus
changes
in
deductibles.
So,
although
it
looks
on
the
form
that
the
cost
of
the
employees
increase
12.76
percent,
that's
actually
just
in
the
contribution
level,
our
employees
will
also
be
paying
higher
deductibles
higher
co-pays.
M
Higher
co-pays
on
on
insurance
on
our
prescription
drugs
as
well,
so
there
are
additional
costs
for
the
employees
there
as
well,
but
we
we
really
think
that
we're
going
we're
going
the
right
way.
We've
got
some
meetings
set
up
with
our
consultants
so
that
we
can
have
a
long-term
plan
to
educate
our
employees
on
what
a
movement
to
a
different
plan
would
entail
and
which
type
of
plan
might
be
better
for
individual
employees.
M
So
we
we've
got
some
initial
times
set
up
with
gallagher
for
for
doing
some
of
that
development
this
summer
and
really
what
we're
looking
at
the
long
term
is
trying
to
go
to
a
first
of
all
a
dual
plan
and
then
eventually
our
that.
What
we're
thinking
right
now,
unless
things
change
with
the
affordable
care
act,
and
things
like
that,
is
that
we
would
eventually
go
towards
something
like
a
high
deductible
plan
with
a
health
savings
account,
but
we
need
a
transition
and
we
need
education
to
do
that.
M
Additional
transfers
is
when
we
talked
about
this
before
we
were
going
to
have
reinsurance
fees,
and
some
of
these
other
governmental
fees
were
going
to
come
from
our
reserve
fund
and
we
really
felt
that
no,
that
is
a
part
of
our
insurance.
That
should
be
a
shared
expense
as
well,
so
we've
taken
those
fees
and
we
have
moved
them
into
that
major
pool.
That's
going
to
be
split,
79
21,
instead
of
just
using
reserve.
In
order
to
do
that,
anybody
has
any
questions.
I
try
to
answer.
M
M
M
One
of
the
big
ones
is
going
away
from
a
possibly
going
away
from
a
fully
insured
dental
plan
to
funding
that
ourself,
just
like
just
like
we
do
with
with
the
health
insurance,
and
can
we
combine
some
of
our
other
plans
so
that
we
can
kind
of,
like
you,
do
it
at
home
with
your
with
your
home
and
your
auto.
If
you
combine
those
with
the
same
companies,
sometimes
there's
savings
there
as
well
and
right
now.
The
other
benefit
that
we
see
of
it
is.
M
We
have
somebody
who
is
giving
us
advice
that
isn't
a
isn't
a
player
in
that
in
that
game,
initially
blue
cross
came
with
a
17
percent,
as
we
crunched
the
numbers
with
them
and
looked
some
more.
K
N
Thanks
john
say
one
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
here.
I
heard
a
couple
of
times:
we've
kind
of
changed
that
split
from
80
20
to
79
21.,
really
that's
in
total,
because
before
this
is
across
the
board,
80
20-
I
mean
I'm
looking
at
this.
It's
this.
The
single
coverages
actually
go
to
a
lesser
portion
of
of
self-paced
85
percent.
The
the
district
will
pick
up.
The
employee
plus
dependent,
basically
states
stays.
N
M
And-
and
part
of
that
is
also
because
of
the
aca
requirements,
with
affordability
and
affordability
being
based
on
a
single
employee
and
our
would
our
30-hour
paraprofessionals.
M
A
M
Dollar:
wars,
dollar,
wise
versus
versus
percentage-wise,
and
obviously
because
it's
at
80
20,
it's
a
much
larger
pool.
M
That
way
and
like
I
said,
though,
the
employee
that
uses
our
insurance
will
also
be
paying
in
addition
to
that
too,
through
the
rate,
the
rise
in
their
deductible.
M
We
just
felt
this
was
kind
of
a
a
nice
transition
to
and
to
give
us
some
time
to
develop
that
long-range
plan
on.
Where
can
we
have
this
goal?
Where
do
we
need
this
to
go
in
the
future?
This
is
step
one
or
two,
depending
on
how
you
look
at
last
year,.
A
A
B
I
A
K
A
N
Thank
you,
madam
president,
and
brock
feel
free
to
jump
in
at
any
time
here
as
we're
going
through
this,
and
I
think
there
brock
put
together
a
fairly
comprehensive
summary
of
each
of
the
four
budgets
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
and
hopefully
approving
this
evening.
As
far
as
on
a
preliminary
basis,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
cover
all
of
that.
N
What
I
will
do
is
go
through
each
of
these
and
try
to
cover
some
highlights
that
I
think,
are
relevant
and
take
let's
take
questions
after
each
budget
if
we
can
and
we'll
get
through
it.
That
way,
and
perhaps
the
easiest
way
to
do
this
might
be
to
after
the
discussion
on
each
of
the
budgets
take
a
motion
for
the
preliminary
approval
of
each
budget
at
that
time.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
fine,
okay,
the
first
budget
we
have
is
the
special
assessments
budget,
really
no
significant
issues.
N
Here
we
have
some
residual
revenue
from
from
delinquent
taxes
from
the
past.
We
also
have
the
the
revenue
from
the
park
district
for
the
davies
pool.
That
is
under
a
special
assessment
as
well,
and
so
really
the
revenue
side
is.
Is
at
41
000
there's
no
recommendation
at
all
to
implement
a
mill
levy
for
the
current
year.
N
N
The
recommendation
from
administration
is
to
pay
off
the
remaining
specials
for
the
kennedy
elementary
in
the
current
year,
totaling
62
000.,
with
that
the
special
assessments
fund
would
have
a
current
year
deficit,
expenditures
of
311
000,
but
still
remaining
ending
fund
balance
of
734
556
dollars.
B
E
A
K
N
All
right,
moving
on
to
the
building
fund,
we
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
just
trying
to
understand
the
building
funded
planning.
But
when
we
were
all
done,
it
made
sense
to
to
many
of
us
in
the
building
fund.
There's
a
lot
of
crossover.
From
year
to
year,
we've
got
some
refunding
that
was
bonds
were
issued
the
previous
year,
but
paid
off
this
year.
N
N
But
the
the
manner
in
which
the
1415
budgets
calculated
is
consistent
with
the
general
fund
calculation
as
well.
So
I
felt
comfortable
with
that
total
revenues
for
the
proposed
budget.
7
857
000
up
slightly
from
the
total
fund
revenues
of
the
prior
year's
budget
about
8.8
percent
under
expenditures
budget
for
the
expenditures
would
be
the
architectural
services,
the
other
consultant
services
all
related
to
the
hvac
and
the
and
the
ed
clap
projects.
N
We
also
have
the
construction
services,
which
again,
is
the
hvac
and
the
ed
clap
project
as
well.
The
22
million
equipment
again
related
to
those
projects
as
well
and
the
other
costs
brock
you'll
have
to
refresh
my
memory
on
the
other
miscellaneous
cost
piece,
I'm
not
sure
what
that
is
for
296
000.
As
far
as
that
budget,
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
significant
everybody
don't
recall
what
that
might
be.
N
Okay,
something
related
to
the
projects.
Obviously,
because
we,
what
we
try
to
do
in
the
general
budget
is
delineate
instead
of
construction
costs.
They
identify
each
line
item
by
a
specific
type
of
cost
in
the
budget.
The
general
budget
general
fund
budget,
as
well
as
the
building
fund
budget,
so
total
expenditures
for
the
2014-15
budget,
33
million
22
000,
which
appears
to
be
then
a
deficit
for
the
current
year
of
25
million
164
thousand.
That
again
is
because
the
projects
were
actually
funded
in
2013-14
and
then
expended
in
2014-15.
N
With
the
beginning
fund,
balance
of
32
million
the
revenues
and
expenditures
for
the
current
year,
ending
fund
balance
is
estimated
at
seven
million
three
hundred
and
forty
seven
thousand
by
the
end
of
six
thirty
fifteen,
the
majority
of
the
ed
clap
project
will
be
completed.
There
will
be
some
run
out
of
retainages
and
that
type
of
thing
to
complete
the
ed
clap
building
project
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
there
will
be
some
after
fiscal
15
is
over.
D
As
those
projects
near
completion,
there
will
likely
be
a
different
final
cost
there,
hopefully
lower
as
we
save
on
contingency
or
some
of
those
types
of
things,
and
we
would
bring
you
those
adjustments
throughout
the
year
as
we
know
them,
because
the
hvac
project
would
finish
certainly
in
this
fiscal
year,
and
we
would
know
any
of
those
things
as
the
new
elementary
school
progresses.
If
we
see
things
that
are
significant,
we
would
bring
that
to
you
at
the
time.
So
I
don't.
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
understands.
A
J
I
know
I
was
going
to
ask
about
the
line
890,
the
other
miscellaneous
costs
are
emerging
needs,
and
you
said
you
didn't
have
that
just
when
you
bring
the
final
budget
forward.
I'd
be
curious
about
that.
You
know
what
what
falls
under
emerging
needs.
In
terms
of
I
mean
I
assuming
the
hvac
stuff,
is
somewhere
else.
N
J
D
Members
of
the
board,
linda,
I
would
say
the
emerging
needs-
is
a
as
an
antiquated
term
that
when
the
system
was
set
up
was
a
term
we
were
using
and
it's
in
the
preloaded
definitions
of
the
budget
codes.
We
we
will
get
that
cleaned
up
so
and
then
I
will
I've
wrote
written
a
note
here
when
we
do
for
final
approval,
I'll
bring
a
detailed
list
of
any
of
those
costs
that
we
need
to
identify.
F
F
Center
operation
center,
and
not
only
has
the
legislature
limited
use
of
the
building
authority.
What
is
our
we?
We
have
no
intention
of
using
the
building
building
for
authority
to
fund
that
does.
Can
I
ask
what
what's
in
the
queue
for
funding.
N
That
as
a
board
member
I'll-
just
if
I
could
respond
to
that
as
well,
I
think
chris,
I
think,
you're
right
when
when
we
propose
the
funding
for
the
new
bonds,
they
look
at
the
current
revenues
that
are
available
within
the
current
mill
levy
structure
and
the
valuation.
In
addition,
we
talked
about
over
time.
I
still
believe
a
seven
million
dollar
fund
balance
in
there.
N
So
if
we
have
to
dip
into
the
building
fund
fund
balance,
that
would
be
available
as
well
to
build
the
operating
operations
center
as
well,
and
perhaps
additional
funding,
depending
on
costs
that
type
of
thing
through
this
so
rock.
If
I'd.
D
Members
of
the
board,
chris,
I
think
rick's
explanations-
is
exactly
right
to
your
question
of.
Would
we,
you
know,
what's
in
the
queue
with
the
building
authority?
Well,
part
of
that
is
really
dependent
on
the
board
and
and
what
direction
you
might
choose
to
take
with
whatever
comes
forward
for
that
or
any
other
project.
D
For
that
matter
and
recall,
we've
got
a
policy
in
place
that
requires
us
to
take
different
action
if
we
use
the
building
authority
to
issue
debt,
so
there's
a
lot
of
options
that
are
out
there
building
authority
with
appropriate
approval
building
fund
with
the
reserve.
That
is
there,
as
well
as
with
approval
building
funds
can
be
approved
by
the
general
public.
D
You've
got
ending
fund
balances,
so
I
think
a
long-term
discussion
and
I
believe,
a
future
long-range
financial
plan
has
been
discussed
as
part
of
the
retreat
or
other
topics
to
talk
about
what
next,
and
how
do
we
go
about
that,
given
that
we
have
basically
bonded
the
building
fund
to
its
capacity?
At
this
point,.
D
L
D
Bro-
and
I
realize
we're
speculating
and
playing
a
little
bit
of
what,
if
but
recall,
that
if
the
legislature
also
provides
funding
for
the
state
school
construction
and
we
refinance
some
of
the
existing
debt
at
a
lower
rate
of
interest
that
helps
that
issue
that
jim's
referencing
even
greater,
because
our
payments
will
be
lower.
So
the
obligations
for
this
fund
will
be
less.
So
I
think,
there's
reason
to
be
optimistic,
that
we've
got
some
things
in
the
future
that
have
been
structured
pretty
well
for
us
as
we
go
forward.
K
L
A
I
moved
in
seconded
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor.
Oh,
I
beg
your
pardon
john.
I
didn't
see.
G
N
N
N
N
So
when
we
take
a
look
at
the
revenues
with
regard
to
food
service
revenues,
a
slight
decrease
from
1314
to
1415
as
well
other
revenues,
really
no
significant
changes
in
the
other
revenue
section.
So
when
we
look
at
the
total
fund
revenues,
a
slight
decrease
of
82
000
or
over
a
little
over
one
percent
decrease
in
in
nutrition
services,
revenue
on
the
expense
side,
really
no
significant
changes
until
you
get
to
page
two
line,
33
733
and
in
that
is
the
equipment
budget,
and
we
had
some
discussion
here
during
planning.
N
There's
also
an
additional
number
with
regard
to
funding
the
necessary
equipment
upgrades
to
the
new
operations
center.
If
that
were
to
occur
prior
to
the
end
of
the
year
and
without
a
detail,
and
so
brock
went
back
and
actually
reduced
the
equipment
expenditure
line
to
what
we
know
to
be
the
required
expenditures-
and
this
does
include
the
ed
clap
expenditures
to
the
tune
of
about
170
thousand
dollars
to
basically
build
out
that
kitchen
at
the
ed
clap
elementary
a
final
exa.
N
The
excess
revenue
is
over
expenses,
then,
for
the
year,
620
000
deficit
still
leaves
an
ending
fund
balance
with
the
nutrition
services
fund
of
1.1
million
at
the
end
of
15..
D
Brock,
madame
president,
members
of
the
board,
just
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
the
equipment
side,
one
of
the
things
that
was
discussed
at
planning
in
detail
and
if
you
recall
from
the
update,
I
gave
you
last
board
meeting
about
the
operations
center,
the
the
integral
piece
to
that
is
the
central
kitchen
and
having
it
up
and
functional
and
operational
in
the
time
to
be
ready
for
the
fall
of
15
school
year.
If,
in
fact,
that's
the
timeline,
we
stay
on
in
negotiations
with
the
city
the.
D
If,
if
that
timeline
happens,
and
we
need
to
be
pre-purchasing
in
preparation
for
that
move,
we
had
discussed
at
planning
that
we
would
treat
that
as
a
budget
adjustment.
Much
like
we
would
do
in
any
budget,
and
we
would
come
to
you
at
that
time
and
say:
okay,
we're
now
moving
forward
with
these
purchases.
Here's
what
that's
going
to
cost!
D
O
D
Members
of
the
board,
robin
yes
to
the
degree
that
they
are
being
requested
and
we're
really
doing
that
in
conjunction
with
the
foundation
through
our
nutrition
services
budget,
as
well
as
what
the
foundation
is
raising.
And
there
is
a
discussion
that
happened
a
year
ago
when
we
met
with
some
of
the
elementary
principals
that
there's
a
desire
to
expand
that
to
a
truly
a
snack
break
and
really
to
be
all
inclusive
to
all
children,
as
opposed
to
just
those
that
qualify
for
free
and
reduced
lunch.
D
B
B
H
N
N
D
Of
the
board
rick
in
response
to
that
we're
taking
actual
mill
levy,
139
mills
times
the
actual
rate
provided
to
us
per
mill
by
the
county,
and
then
this
in
this
current
budget.
I
don't
have
this
number
off
the
top
of
my
head:
it's
273
000
and
change,
and
then
we
take
that
times
a
95
collection
rate,
because
our
historical
average
is
about
95
collection
in
year,
one
so
for
this
year,
1314
the
number
is
273
895
dollars
so
139
times
that
number
times
95
gives
us
our
budgeted
amount.
D
What
we've
done,
then,
is
based
on
projections
that
we've
gotten
from
the
city
and
conversations
we
had
with
planning.
We
took
next
year's
number,
so
we
took
273
895
times
a
5.5
percent
increase
in
valuations
times,
139
mills
times
95
collection
for
the
actual
year
to
come
up
with
our
estimate
of
the
38
million
157.
So
we're
we're
taking
the
number
provided
from
last
year
from
the
county,
growing
it
by
the
valuation
projection
given
to
us
by
the
city
times
our
number
of
mills
levied
times.
D
Members
of
the
board,
linda,
you
are
correct.
It
is
significantly
higher
than
we've
seen,
but
certainly,
I
think,
as
many
property
tax
owners
would
attest,
as
revaluations
have
happened.
We've
seen
some
movement
in
the
market
in
that
regard,
and
so
I
think,
what's
happening
is
through
the
regular
cycle
of
doing
those
re-evaluations
we're
starting
to
see
the
market
move
pretty
significantly
more
than
it
has
in
the
past.
D
That
report
would
indicate
over
a
seven
percent
growth
rate
for
the
city
of
fargo,
so
the
the
five
and
a
half
is
for
fps
district
one,
and
so
I
guess
we're
feeling
very
confident
about
that
number.
My
pause
is
because
we've
seen
over
the
last
what
well
since
I've
been
here
1.8
to
2.2.
That
number
has
been
pretty
small
in
the
four
years.
F
Chris,
my
question
is,
you
know
there
was
a
time
when
we
understood
that
the
legislative
action
indicated
that
we
would
have
frozen
values
pros
and
revenue
at
2016.,
but
my
understanding
was
that
a
new
construction
wasn't
in
that
that
we
could
continue
to
to
well.
I
debated
someone
about
this
recently
and
we
kind
of
butted
heads,
but
so
my
understanding
is
that
new
construction,
the
valuations,
continue
to
go
up,
so
we
can
continue
to
sort
of
collect
revenue.
D
For
that
members
of
the
board
chris,
I
looked
at
jim
because
he
and
I
have
gone
round
and
round
and
tried
to
figure
out
exactly
how
this
works.
Do
you
want
to
try
to
explain
this,
or
would
you
like
me
to
thank
you.
L
L
D
Brock
members
of
the
board,
thanks
jim
I'm,
going
to
get
some
modeling
from
mike
mom
pleasure.
He
and
I
have
talked
over
the
course
of
the
week
following
the
last
planning
meeting
and
as
we
move
toward
final
approval,
hopefully
the
modeling
he
will
provide
to
me.
We
will
talk
that
through
in
planning
and
jim,
is
exactly
right
and
you
get
the
new
property.
D
But
in
essence
the
value
of
your
old
property
goes
down
as
the
new
property
comes
online,
so
it
kind
of
washes
each
other
out
to
move
you
closer
to
that
valuation,
and
so
he's
going
to
give
me
something
that
hopefully,
will
do
a
step-by-step
walkthrough
of
exactly
what
jim
explained.
So
we
see
it
on
paper.
Maybe
we
can
explain
that
or
get
people
to
understand
it
in
a
step-by-step
manner.
N
All
right
moving
on,
then
we
have
the
line
11
18
still
in
revenue.
We've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
this.
Previously,
that's
the
snl
tax
last
year's
budget
was
a
million
276
actual
in
the
general
fund
was
a
million
652,
and
I
know
we've
all
discussed
the
fact
that
this
has
been
reconfigured
for
the
state
and
the
district
will
no
longer
be
receiving
the
snl
tax
as
part
of
its
revenue
base,
and
so
in
the
2013-14
budget.
N
We
actually
received
a
million
652
in
the
general
fund,
but
there's
also
another
227
000
we
actually
received
in
the
building
fund
as
well.
If
you
recall
seeing
that
so
district-wide,
a
reduction
of
about
1.9
million
are
related
to
the
reconfiguration
of
the
snl
tax.
So
that's
a
decrease
in
our
property
tax
revenue,
and
so
our
overall
property
tax
revenues
projected
an
increase
about
1.2
percent
for
the
next
budget
year
budget
to
budget
some
other
small
items.
N
Tuition
is
always
a
gap,
best
estimate
as
far
as
tuition
revenue
and
that's
the
increase
to
or
projected
increase
205
000
local
revenue
down
on
line
6
1962
the
idea
there
is
probably
in
2014-15
building
one
house
and
a
number
of
garages
versus
two
houses,
and
so
that's
slight
reduction
there
in
revenue,
state
revenue,
3110,
that's
based
upon
a
formula
calculation
about
a
four
percent
increase
there.
Almost
four
million
dollars
increase
in
state
revenue.
K
N
General
fund
revenues,
then
138
million
755,
or
an
increase
over
last
year's
budget
of
about
3.5
percent.
N
Moving
on
to
the
expense
piece
page
204,
total
salary
expense
projected
to
increase
2.3
million
from
a
prior
year's
budget
or
about
a
three
percent
increase
employee
benefits.
We
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on
probably
one
of
the
more
significant
items:
health
insurance-
that's
projected
to
increase
almost
eight
percent
over
last
year's
budget.
N
The
other
items
which
we've
also
had
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
regarding,
would
be
the
teachers
retirement
in
the
public
employees,
retirement
funding
each
of
those
going
up
approximately
nineteen
percent,
so
total
employee
benefits
increasing
about
10.3
percent
in
in
total,
when
we
take
a
look
at
salaries
and
benefits,
increase
their
from
from
budget
14
to
budget
15,
almost
five
million
dollars,
four
million
nine
hundred
and
fifty
five
thousand
are
about
a
four
point:
eight
percent
increase
in
salaries
and
benefits
the
remaining
line,
items
or
categories
for
expenses.
N
You
can
see
purchase
professional
technical
services
projected
to
decrease
six
percent
operating
and
repair
expenses
remain
relatively
flat
just
to
point
out
their
contract
and
maintenance
is
still
at
the
three
million
dollar
budget
budgeted
level
which
we
had
talked
about
since
I
think
the
long
range
facilities
plan,
so
that
has
remained
intact
with
the
current
year
budget.
N
Moving
on
to
page
three
next
item,
there
is
transportation,
cost
increase
there
of
about
257
000.,
that's
kind
of
across
the
board
cost
due
to
our
contract.
Fuel
repair
means
that
type
of
thing
about
four
percent
increase
in
transportation
and
travel
supplies.
N
Administration
worked
long
and
hard
with
all
of
the
the
buildings
and
the
principles
that
type
of
thing
to
look
at
where
we
could
maybe
reduce
some
costs
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
areas
throughout
this
budget.
But
it
really
does
show
up
in
the
supplies
and
materials
area
of
about
a
four
percent
decrease
there
equipment,
163,
000
decrease
in
budget
there
as
well,
six
percent
and
so
other
than
truly
salaries
and
benefits,
which
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
control
over
other
than
you
know,
staffing
numbers
most
of
the
areas.
N
And
so
you
take
a
look
at
the
total
operating
expenses
for
the
current
year,
1415
budget,
an
increase
of
four
million
six
hundred
and
thirty
seven
thousand,
or
about
three
point:
five
percent,
again
of
that
four
million.
Six
hundred
and
thirty
seven
thousand
increase
four
million
nine
hundred
and
fifty
four
thousand
of
that
is
salaries
and
benefits
so
again,
actually,
three
hundred
thousand
more
than
the
total
increase
in
expenses,
so
that
results
in
basically
a
balanced
budget
for
fiscal
1415.
N
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
planning
committee
to
date
has
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
brock,
and
I
know
his
group
and
dr
schatz's
group
has
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
on
the
general
fund
budget.
Looking
at
all
areas,
they
did
get
the
principles
involved
at
the
building
level,
a
lot
of
different
people
involved
at
the
at
the
local
level.
Here
at
the
at
the
main
site
level
and
the
planning
committee
members,
I
think,
offered
quite
a
bit
of
suggestive
thought
anyway
to
the
process
and
resulted
in
a
budget.
N
I
think,
if
we
all
recall,
I
think
we
started
out
with
about
a
five
million
dollar
deficit
at
least
preliminarily
and
ended
up
with
a
combination
of
additional
revenues.
Local
revenues
and
and
some
belt
tightening
ended
up
with
a
balanced
budget,
with
a
total
increase
in
expenses
of
only
3.5,
which
is
pretty
significant,
considering
what
the
district
was
mandated
to
do
with
regard
to
our
contract,
with
our
with
our
teachers
and
also
the
the
benefit
of
the
tffr
and
the
and
the
other
retirement
funds
that
we
have
so
significant
movement
from
the
start.
A
Moved
in
second,
any
additional
discussion
questions
chris.
F
Just
I
appreciate
the
narrative
form
at
the
beginning
of
the
document.
That's
a
little
easier
for
me
to
first
read
through.
I
also
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
we
we
found
efficiencies
in
the
budget.
There
are
some
tweaks
that
we
that
the
administration
believes
aren't
impacting
the
education
that
we've
been
providing
for
our
students,
and
I
clarified
at
planning.
I
just
wanted
to
let
everyone
else
know
that
my
concern
was
that
we
were
sort
of
robbing
peter
to
pay
paul.
We
wanted
to
balance
the
budget.
F
We
were
going
to
find
efficiencies
somewhere
and
later
there
was
going
to
pop
up
somewhere
else
again,
and
you
know
it
was
kind
of
kicking
the
can
down
the
road,
but
I
think
the
administration
did
a
really
exceptional
job
of
finding
ways
to
you
know
balance
this
budget
in
light
of
the
tffr
issue
and
the
snl,
and
you
know
I
so
I
feel
confident
that
we're
not
taking
something
away
that
we're
going
to
need
to
find
money
for
later.
So
that's
all.
I
I
have
a
slightly
different
take
on
it,
and
that
is
that
I
think
the
budget
that
we
had
last
year
was
was
lean
and
not
filled
with
excesses
and
this
year,
when
we're
forced
to
to
cut
things
and
not
be
able
to
add
it
isn't
because
we
had
surpluses
in
previous
years
and
in
fact
I
think
it's
going
to
become
more
difficult
as
we
go
forward
to
maintain
the
quality
of
education
that
we
have
come
to
expect
in
the
city
of
fargo,
with
an
ever
limited
group
of
resources.
I
I
think
we
all
know
that.
I
just
like
to
say
it
from
time
to
time,
because
I
don't
want
to
congratulate
ourselves
that
we've
been
able
to
cut
fat
out
of
the
budget,
because
I
don't
think
there
was
fat
in
that
budget.
I
think
the
things
that
the
administration
has
proposed
over
the
years
have
been
things
that
we
need
and
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
make
do
without
some
of
them
going
forward
in
staffing,
as
well
as
other
types
of
resources.
F
Chris,
I
must
have
misspoke,
because
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
not,
in
contrast
to
what
I
said.
I
think
what
I
said
was
that
the
administration
assured
planning
anyway,
that
the
things
that
went
away
weren't
things
that
were
excesses,
they
were
things
that
they
found
a
new
way
of
doing
something
and
that
it
won't
impact
the
educational
integrity
of
what
we
have
and
what
we're
providing
and
offering.
So,
I'm
not
sure
what
you
said
is,
in
contrast
to
what
I
said.
G
President,
I'm
I'm
gonna,
add
another
element
to
that
discussion
and
the
the
our
constituents
are
of
this
mindset
from
bismarck
and
legislature
that
they're
going
to
be
seeing
property
tax
reductions
and
and
they're
expecting
that
and
and
there
has
been
a
reduction
in
property
taxes,
but
but
but
the
reality
of
five
plus
percent
valuation
increases
going
to
counter
that
notion.
They
have
also
that
they're
going
to
see
reductions
when
their
evaluation
increases
and
and
I'll
and
I'll
and
I'll
finish
this
by
saying
fargo
to
my
knowledge,
is
at
69
percent
state
funding.
N
A
Any
opposed
same
sign.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
all
involved.
Thank
you,
rick
for
a
really
good
explanation
and
procedure
going
through
that
we'll
remember
this
next
year,
or
some
people
will
definitely
remember
it
next
year
when
you're
not
here,
we
have
one
more
business
item,
but
again
I
think
it'll
take
a
little
while
so
I'm
going
to
give
us
all
a
break,
I
can't
see
with
the
shadow
there
but
tend
to
let's
come
back
at
seven
o'clock.
Please
thank
you.
H
C
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
stand
up
to
do
this,
and
this
is
like
back
with
the
long-range
facility
planning
process,
we're
going
to
do
heat
map
now
so
john.
I
I
think
you
would
ask
for
this,
so
we're
going
to
provide
you
the
best
we
can
with
kind
of
an
update,
and
so
I
thought
it
would
be
easier
if
I
could
just
kind
of
point
the
new
software
that
we're
using
is
a
little
bit
different
than
what
you
saw
before
the
you
know,
the
other
software
that
we
had
with
our
consultant.
C
They
were
able
to
make
those
color
kind
of
changes
with
big
round
yellow
spots
or
red
spots.
So
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
go
by
grade
level
and
then
we
can
kind
of
show
you
within
the
attendance
areas.
Where
is
the
population?
You
know?
Where
do
they
reside,
and
I
think
there's
some
so
bob
this
map
here
tell
me
again
what
we
have
as
far
as
what
this
represents
right
now.
H
On
the
screen
is
the
current
elementary
boundaries
in
the
different
colors
and
then
the
students
who
are
k
through
5
this
current
school.
C
C
This
is
the
housing
that
has
been
put
just
north
of
davies
now,
because
out
here
would
be
davies,
and
this
is
that
new
development-
that's
going
in
so
you
can
see
they
have
new
streets
in.
If
you,
I
drove
out
there
today
to
attend
the
tech
camp
and
you
can
just
see
the
explosion
of
growth
with
the
streets
that
are
in
now
so
you're
going
to
see
the
houses
coming
in
and
then
also
this
parcel
of
land
that
sits
south
of
76.
C
I
believe
now
is
going
on
the
market
for
developers,
so
we're
seeing
that
materialize,
it's
starting
to
happen
in
a
big
way.
Yeah.
All
of
this
here
has
been
plotted.
They
are
going
to
connect
the
road
this
year
from
70th
avenue,
which
has
been
north
of
davies
to
university.
So
now
we'll
finally
have
that
side
ability
to
get
into
the
school.
So
I
think
this
was
important
for
you
to
see,
because
now
you
can
actually
see
it
happening.
So
as
we
move
up
just
oh
yes,
good
point.
This
is
at.
C
I
believe
it
was
the
christensen
edition-
and
this
was
a
little
bit
controversial
with
the
city
at
the
time.
They've
now
settled
that,
and
you
see
a
major
infrastructure
development
going
on
there
too.
So
we're
gonna
see
a
pretty
rapid
expansion
in
here
over
here
at
kennedy.
You're
also
seeing
it
right
here
off
of
52nd
you're,
starting
to
see
pretty
rapid
expansion
here
with
infrastructure
too.
C
So,
as
we
start
to
push
to
the
north,
you
can
see
the
high
numbers
of
students
that
are
in
that
elementary
age
group
right
here
in
this
part
of
the
write-off
for
centennial
and
and
as
we
look
to
our
new
conductor,
configuration
here
right
now,
bennett
as
you
see
the
red,
you
start
traveling
up,
25th
street.
You
can
just
see
the
clusters
of
students
you
get
up
to
here
on
32nd.
C
C
You
have
the
apartment
building
here,
that's
right
across
from
sun
mart
and
then,
of
course,
as
you
get
into
the
whole
bluemont
region,
you
can
see
the
distribution.
Look
at
the
high
concentration
of
kids
here,
lots
of
apartment
buildings
that
come
down
here
behind
kmart
in
those
areas.
But
look
you
know,
look
at
those
numbers.
It's
just
a
lot,
a
lot
of
students
that
reside
in
those
areas.
So
when
you
ask
why
is
lincoln
so
full
well
here
it
is.
C
This
is
prairie
wood
right
here,
but
again,
just
very
high
concentration
numbers
in
certain
areas
where
you
see
and
again
the
explosion
of
well,
not
the
explosion,
but
the
steady
increase
at
lewis
and
clark
filling
up
lewis
and
clark
and
then,
as
we
go
across
university
and
we
get
over
into
the
clair
barton
neighborhood,
you
can
see
again
the
numbers
and
where
people
are
living
over
here
in
the
jefferson
area.
Very
high
concentrations
in
here
these
are
apartment
buildings
right
here,
a
lot
of
multi-home
type
facilities
here,
so
you
can
see
around
jefferson.
C
The
primary
heavy
load
is
here,
as
we
talked
about
this
little
piece
from
cbe
h
and
how
many
students
are
involved
in
that
particular
area
right
where
cbe
is
so,
you
know
it
makes
quite
a
difference
if
you
move
a
couple
blocks
one
way
or
a
couple
blocks
the
next
way.
So
as
as
bob
and
I
looked
at
these-
and
you
start
talking
about
what
can
you
draw
a
line
here
and
how
many
students
does
that
mean?
That's
what
we
were
doing.
C
C
Here,
yes,
that,
as
you
start
to
get
out
towards
the
interstate
becomes
commercial,
it's
all.
C
Open
land
over
in
here
yeah
as
you
go
along
uni,
the
main
avenue
you
know,
that's
where
radco
is
and
all
those
and
then
there's
that
service
road
that
comes
up
and
around
okay
and
again
when
we
did
the
long
range
facility
planning.
You
remember.
We
talked
about
that
kind
of
dead
zone
in
here,
because
that's
all
of
maine
avenue,
where
all
the
businesses
lie
on
either
side.
C
So
but
look
at
madison
when
you
look
at
madison,
look
at
how
just
very
focused
that
enrollment
and
attendance
area
is
as
far
as
the
housing
and
where
the
where
the
kids
live,
and
then
it
breaks
out
a
little
bit.
This
way
we
get
over
to
roosevelt
horseman
area.
Again
lots
of
students
located
right
within
those
neighborhoods,
as
you
get
to
the
outliers
here,
not
so
heavily
populated,
continue
to
move
as
we
move
forward.
C
We've
got
washington
again,
very
heavily
populated
with
elementary
students,
look
at
longfellow
and
then
over
here
at
mckinley,
a
lot
of
apartment
buildings
right
here,
a
few
folks
up
here.
Then,
of
course,
we
have
that
far
northern
region,
where
we
bring
them
to
washington
and
that
right
here,
for
those
of
you
who
know
the
north
side
pretty
well,
is
that
one
area
that
has
been
developed
so
now.
This
was
elementary
so.
C
B
You
know
with
as
dense
densely
populated
as
those
south
schools
are
that's
very
that's
reminiscent
of
my
programs
in
there
too,
and
we're
turning
kids
away
because
we
have
to
have
so
many
square
feet
per
per
child
and
not
all
the
children
are
getting
served
in
those
schools
through
after-school
care,
so
it
doesn't
just
affect
just
affect
the
in-school
time,
but
also
the
out-of-school
services
for
these
families.
Yep.
C
And
then,
as
we
saw
in
the
past,
if
we
broke
it
out
elementary
to
middle
school
to
high
school
you're
going
to
see
similar
patterns,
but
I
always
think
it's
interesting
to
just
see:
is
there
any
differentiation
in
the
in
the
patterns?
And
so
now
we
get
the
middle
school
students
again.
You
know
in
that
madison
neighborhood.
Now
we
have
a
lot
of
kids
there
that
are
also
middle
school,
kids
and
now
the
longer
distances
to
get
to
school.
C
Of
course,
and
you
can
see
how
busing
patterns
start
to
develop
too,
when
you
start
to
look
at
something
like
this
with
the
larger
schools,
let's
go
to
carl
ben
get
a
sense
kind
of
move,
it
up
bob
a
little
bit
more
okay.
So
you
get
this
real
sense
of
where
the
kids
are
similar
patterns
again
over
here
in
the
bluemont
area.
C
Pretty
high
concentrations
here,
lots
of
apartment
buildings
right
in
here,
pretty
high
concentrations
there
out
here
in
the
kennedy
area,
see
what's
happening
and
here's
what's
going
to
start
happening.
Well,
let's
keep
moving
it
up.
Bob
look
at
how
tight
it's
getting
to
52nd,
but
now
as
we
cross
over
and
we
get
to
the
other
side
of
walmart
and
all
this
is
being
developed.
C
We're
going
to
start
to
see
a
similar
pattern
of
what
happened
over
here
and
you'll
start
to
see
the
dots
go
in
there
once
the
houses
start
getting
built
and
again
how
far
south
we're
going
we're
way
past
now,
what
would
be
davies
right
in
here?
You
can
even
see
some
of
the
growth
that's
going
out
here.
This
would
be
all
discovery
and
you
get
way
out
here,
which
is
100th
avenue
right
here.
This
is
100.
C
and
so
and
to
answer
your
question
chris,
that
you've
asked
a
couple
times
about
future
land
for
elementary
right
now.
Here's
davies,
64th
76th,
we're
looking
somewhere
in
here
and
I'll,
have
a
report
this
summer
on
that.
But
just
so
you
know
that
I've
been
working
with
people
on.
Where
might
we
be
part
of
the
development
rather
than
the
development
driver?
C
Okay,
here
we
go
is
that
it
bob
yeah,
it's
gotta
upload.
The
beauty
of
this
software
is
that
if
a
new
student
moves
in
tomorrow
the
next
day
they're
on
this
map,
so
this
is
very
interactive.
It's
up
to
date.
It's
it's!
It
really
gives
us
real
time
and
we
can
cut
lines
anywhere.
We
want
pull
up
the
dado
over
here
and
it
tells
us
exactly
what
the
makeup
is.
Those
types
of
things,
so
we
can
know
very
quickly
all
the
different
statistics
that
we
need
to
know
on
data
rick.
C
We
just
did
this
this
year
so
that
we
could
do
the
boundary
line
work
without
having
to
go
to
them,
because
then
there's
always
a
delay.
Okay,
we're
still
going
to
probably
engage
with
that
group
to
do
updated
because
they
pull
information
from
a
lot
of
different
areas.
This
right
now
just
pulls
from
our
system.
C
C
C
The
interesting
thing
for
me
now
is:
you
can
actually
see
the
numbers
starting
to
pop
in
there,
so
you
just
lay
that
one
map
over
this
and
you
can
start
to
see
where
it's
going
to
be,
but
again
similar
patterns
like
like
you've,
seen
before
all
the
way
up
to
north
once.
Let's
look
at
that.
G
H
C
Clean
slate
off
of
the
real
where
they
live
statistic
I
otherwise
it'd
just
be
too
hard
to
do
to
get
it
accurate
enough.
So
so
again
you
can
see
high
school
population
up
in
the
north
side,
again
kind
of
reflects
even
more
so
here
than
you
saw
in
the
elementaries
even
out
here
you
get
some
outliers
that
really
go
out
because
now
north
serves
all
these
areas
because
we
don't
break
it
into
smaller
areas.
C
So
so
we
just
thought
it
would
be
a
good
review
as
we
get
into
the
new
couple
different
maps
that
bob
has
for
tonight
for
you
to
see
that
you
can
kind
of
think
about
that
as
you're
looking
at
what
might
be
our
final
plan
eventually
here
as
we
move
forward,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
back
to
bob
and
he's
going
to
go
through
the
different
changes
that
we've
made
that
were
asked
for
at
the
last
meeting
and
then
we're
more
than
happy
to
answer
questions.
H
At
the
last
meeting,
we
were
asked
to
focus
most
of
our
time
and
effort
on
the
secondary
level.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
start
with
middle
school
scenarios.
We
have
two
to
share
with
you
tonight
in
your
data
packet
on
page
one.
Just
to
give
you
a
reference.
Is
the
current
middle
school
boundary
each
time?
I
present.
N
H
A
J
J
H
H
H
This
was
the
scenario
that
we
shared
with
you
the
last
time
it
was
2b
in
which
the
students
from
claire
barton
hawthorne
that
entire
neighborhood
was
assigned
to
ben
franklin
and
the
bottom
right
you'll
see
that
this
is
in
your
second
data
packet
on
page
21.
If
you
wanted
to
go
back
to
that
one,
and
the
question
was
what,
if
we
took
this
area
and
assigned
it
to
carl
ben
eilsen
instead
and
then
in
the
southern
part
of
that
boundary,
this
area
was
assigned
to
discovery
middle
school.
H
Instead,
this
is
what
those
boundaries
would
look
like
and
we're
calling
that
one
2c
and
here's
the
data
that
we
would
receive
by
running
that
scenario,
you'll
see
that
we
get
three
somewhat
equally
sized
middle
schools,
a
variance
of
about
63
students
from
the
largest
to
the
smallest,
and
then
I
also
provided
for
you
all
the
other
pieces
of
information
that
we've
looked
at
when
it
comes
to
the
different
scenarios.
So
you
can
see
frein
reduced
special
ed
percentage
and
ell
percentage.
F
H
A
H
So
that
was
that
information,
then
after
we
looked
at
that,
we
said
the
southern
boundary
of
that.
What
if
we
applied
some
of
those
practices
to
the
very
first
scenario
that
we
shared
with
you
back
at
our
first
meeting,
which
was
two
meetings
previous
and
we
looked
at
this
middle
school
scenario,
which
we
called
middle
school
number
one
and
said
if
this
was
the
northern
boundary
of
25th
street
to
5th
avenue,
to
university,
to
13th
on
the
north
boundary,
and
originally
we
presented
to
you
32nd
avenue,
to
18th
street
to
35th
avenue.
H
K
H
H
H
H
Which
gave
you
this
map
and
that's
on
page
eleven
and
then
the
information
that
follows
on
page
twelve.
What
you'll
see
is
that
plan
creates
three
similar
size,
high
schools,
a
difference
of
59
students
from
the
largest
to
the
smallest
and
the
rest
of
the
data
that
goes
along
with
that
from
free,
reduce
special
education
and
ell.
H
H
N
That
okay,
I'll
just
raise
my
hand,
so
you
didn't
miss
me
just
a
quick
question
and
we
look
at
that,
probably
from
middle
school
in
high
school,
and
we
start
out
say
with
your
the
1c
proposal
very
consistently
sized
high
schools,
and
I
think
we
all
would
believe
that
the
growth
is
going
to
occur
in
south
fargo
and
so
with
the
the
plan
b
then
to
as
because
south,
at
least,
I
believe,
has
more
capacity
than
any
of
the
other
schools
would
the
would
the
plan
be
as
the
population
continues
to
expand
to
the
south
at
the
border
for
for
the
heist
fargo
south
high
school
would
continue
to
move
south
as
well
to
to
continue
to
provide
space
adequate
space
at
davies,
and
so
that
would
be
I
mean
somewhere
along
the
line.
N
I
think,
if
that,
if
that's
what
we're
looking
at,
we
probably
have
to
state
that
I
mean
so
we're
not
again
thinking.
Okay,
here's
our
boundaries.
This
is
what
they
are,
but
they're
fluid
and
they're
going
to
be
adjusted
as
growth
goes
on.
It's
very
likely
that
that
boundary
for
south
is
going
to
continue
to
move
south
that'd,
be
my
guess,
but
I'm
not
making
the
subs.
C
C
N
Go
ahead
it
it,
it
did
doctor
shots,
and
what
I
really
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
it
goes
on
record
somewhere
in
the
minutes
or
somewhere
along
the
line
that
these
are
fluid,
especially
for
the
high
school
and
the
middle
school.
Because
of
the
what's
happening
in
south
fargo.
Without
building
a
new
school,
it's
just
going
to
continue
to
push
those
monitors
for
themselves.
Let's
just
want
to
get
that
on
the
record.
A
H
A
Okay,
so
that's
this.
H
A
J
J
But
then
you
see
the
physical
reality
of
how
close
south
high
is
and
how
far
away
north
high
is.
So
in
your
estimation,
this
is
the
traditional
time
in
the
meeting.
When
I
put
you
on
the
spot,
I
do
it
once
a
meeting.
J
C
Yes,
I
think
what
you're
gonna
see
is
more.
You
know,
you'll
have
that
stable,
neighbor
neighborhood,
then
you
know
you'll
have
that
that
attendance
area,
it's
not
going
to
change
or
flex
that
much
so
once
those
are
set.
I
think
you're
going
to
see
some
pretty
static
numbers.
It's
not
going
to
be
as
dynamic
as
you're
going
to
see.
C
On
the
far
side
I
mean
that's
the
best
I
can
do
with
a
crystal
ball,
but
I
mean
you
know
there
is
just
no
more
development
and
unless
you
have
a
neighborhood
flip,
which
is
some
of
the
thinking
behind.
What's
going
on
at
lincoln
and
lewis
clark
right
now
and
in
the
claire
barton
area,
there's
some
you
know
younger
families
moving
in
older
folks
moving
out,
but
those
aren't
going
to
be.
You
know
huge
changeovers,
but
they're
going
to
be
enough
to
keep
everything
really
stable.
I
think
for
quite
a
while.
I.
C
Yeah,
that's
that
would
be
a
very
stable
environment
for
high
school
thousand.
To
eleven
hundred.
You
know
it's
when
you
get
below
a
thousand,
you
start
getting
towards
nine
hundred.
That's
when
the
opportunities,
the
educational
structures
start
to
fall.
Apart
middle
school
level,
we
get
ben
franklin
down
to
seven.
Six
hundred
the
teams
start
to
fall
apart.
C
You
can't
provide
the
same,
and
I
think
that's
really
important-
for
people
to
know
too,
because
jim
had
mentioned
this
before
this
isn't
about
balancing
attendance
areas,
it's
about
providing
equitable
educational
services
and
being
able
to
continue
to
do
that
at
ben
franklin
and
north
in
particular,
while
still
trying
to
maintain
some
assembly
of
neighborhood
schools
at
the
elementary
level
I
mean,
and
then
on
top
of
it
all,
of
course
dealing
with
the
the
numbers,
but
I
mean
so
it's
it's.
It's
got
about
three
different
prongs
to
it.
In
my,
in
my
view,.
O
F
F
F
What
if
we
looked
at
the
midtown
area
and
said,
okay,
ed
clap
park
was
supposed
to
take
some
weight
off
of
lewis
and
clark
and
kennedy
and
send
that
south
and
keep
midtown
the
way
it
is
and
subsidize
north
I
mean.
If
there's
no
teams,
you
know
academically
how
great
that
they
have
small
class
sizes
and
and
so
the
the
answer
that
I
think
the
board
majority
believes
is
well.
F
We've
had
a
call
from
the
public
to
be
more
stringent
fiscally,
and
so
it
makes
more
sense
to
use
what
we
have
and,
and
so
the
trajectory
of
the
conversations
I
have
with
a
couple
of
people.
Why
don't
you
just
add
on
to
davies?
If
there's
growth,
and
so
then
my
response
is
well,
we
feel
the
majority
of
the
board
feels
that
we
should
use
the
space
we
have
before.
We
would
add
on
to
another
school
or
build
another
school,
and
so
I
guess
is
that
is
that
right
I
mean.
F
Is
that
everyone's
thinking,
the
reason
we
don't
just
kind
of
leave
things
as
they
are
tweak
the
boundaries
for
for
ed
clapp
park
school
and
call
it
good?
Is
it
because
everyone
feels
there's
a
need
for
us
to
use
the
space
we
have
rather
than
say
adding
on
building?
You
know
elementary
school
sooner
and
possibly
adding
on
to
discovery
in
davies.
J
That
was
why
I
asked
the
specific
question
of
dr
schatz.
You
know
when
you
are
relaying
the
question
that
you've
been
asked.
You
know
who
who
cares
if
you
know
it,
wouldn't
that
be
a
good
thing
if
there's
lower
enrollment
at
north
and
smaller
class
sizes,
and
and
and
are
we
just
trying
to
fill
up
the
containers
with
equal?
You
know
to
the
same
level
right
from
a
number
standpoint,
and
I
think
what
we're
hearing
loud
and
clear,
educationally
is
that
we
do
not
have
equitable
educational
quality
among
the
high
schools.
J
L
I'm
not
against
efficiencies,
but
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
anything
because
we're
trying
to
fill
up
space
and
as
much
as
I
look
at
all
these
scenarios.
I
think
there
are
probably
two
neighborhoods
in
our
community
that
will
fill
our
boardroom
as
we
get
close
to
this
or
fill
our
mailboxes
and
fortunately
I
live
in
one
of
those.
L
It
is
all
about
providing
the
right
opportunities
to
kids
and
when
you
talk
about
lower
class
sizes-
and
you
know-
maybe
we
just
throw
the
resources
at
that
to
take
care
of
that.
We
don't
have
the
ability
in
our
general
fund
to
operate
inefficiently,
going
forward
from
a
staffing
perspective.
We
just
cannot
afford
that
long
term.
L
B
I
totally
agree
with
everything
that,
linda
and
jim
said
a
third
component
to
that
with
the
my
history
on
the
board.
Philosophically,
I'm
also
opposed
to
high
schools
that
are
too
big.
So
if
we
continue
to
add
on
to
davies,
we
get
in
a
situation
where
we
were
at
south,
where
there
were
about
five
to
six
hundred
students
per
class,
and
we
know
that
that
really
lessens
the
opportunities
for
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
extracurricular
programs.
Hence
the
reason
we're
seeing
more
than
double
the
pop
the
extracurricular
participation
due
to
davies.
B
So
I
think
that
would
be
a
third
component
component.
I
wouldn't
be
philosophically
I'm
opposed
to
getting
super-sized
high
schools,
and
that
was
that
was
a
big
that
was
really
the
main
emphasis
or
one
of
the
main
emphasis
on
the
long
range
facility
plan,
one
that
we
had
was
to
make
south
smaller.
B
F
F
My
question,
I
guess,
is
we're
already
educating
all
those
kids
at
north
we're
not
going
to
get
more
kids.
We
may
get
fewer
kids,
but
if
it's
not
efficient,
is
that
because
we're
hiring
more
staff
in
the
growing
parts
of
the
city
I
mean?
Is
that
the
rationale
there
I
mean
we're
already
paying
for
north
the
way
it
is
right
now,
and
so
are
we
going
to
save
money
if
we
move
more
kids
up
there?
No,
not
really.
C
I
can
tell
you
in
the
elective
areas
where
you
start
to
see
the
downside
in
ap
courses
other
electives,
if,
if
you're
staffing
them
at
right
now,
we
try
not
to
staff
over
if
they're
under
15.
Sometimes
it
gets
to
12..
But
you
start
staffing
that
at
five
at
six,
seven
you're
going
to
be
adding
stuff.
B
And
how
that
affects
students
right
now,
like
my
students
and
north
high
students,
that
I
have
have
less
opportunity
annually
for
those
elective
courses
and
the
ap
courses,
because
they're
only
offered
every
other
year
or
they
have
to
travel
to
south
to
get
those,
and
we
all
know
that
students-
just
don't
do
that.
So
my
my
kids
have
gone
without
a
lot
of
elective
courses
that
aren't
available
to
them
readily
available
to
them
as
those
at
south
and
davies.
B
O
E
The
number
that
strikes
me
is
just
the
low
attendance
at
ben
franklin
right
now
at
6
33..
I
know
the
numbers
that
you've
run
bob
who
are
adding
about
100
students,
and
I
know
it's
tough
to
add
more,
but
I
mean
ideally
it'd
be
nice
to
add
more
into
what
I
believe,
the
largest
middle
school,
where
you're
not
going
to
see
growth,
but
you're
only
going
to
see
more
growth
down
south
and
discovering
that
number
continues
to
grow,
and
I
know
it's
tough
to
do
and
I
really
like
to
see
more
students
there.
A
Shall
we
let
bob
sort
of
flow
through
to
the
end
of
this,
because
I
think
there
might
be
some
more
concrete
recommendations
and
then
have
a
little
more
discussion
then
and
see
so
go
ahead.
Bob.
H
Thank
you
very
much
just
as
a
reminder.
The
last
time
we
were
together,
we
looked
at
an
elementary
proposal
in
your
packet
on
page
17
and
18
is
the
current
elementary
map
and
the
current
demographic
information
on
17
and
18
on
pages.
19
and
20
are
the
proposals
that
we
shared
with
you
the
last
time.
The
elementary
proposed
number
two,
where
on
the
map
you'll
see
the
colors
are
the
outlines
of
the
new
attendance
areas.
H
H
This
plan
would
create
space
and
capacity
at
the
three
buildings
in
which
we
know
there
is
current
growth,
bennett,
centennial
and
kennedy
about
200
to
250
at
bennett
and
kennedy,
and
about
100
students,
potential
growth
at
centennial
elementary,
so
that
should
accommodate
much
of
the
growth
pattern
on
the
far
south
of
our
community
and
then
on
page
22
and
23.
I
also
provided
you
a
side-by-side
comparison
with
the
other
information
that
we've
discussed
together,
so
that
you
had
that
for
your
further
conversation.
J
H
Again,
this
is
the
numbers
if,
if
we
had
moved
all
petition
students
back
to
their
home
school
and
because
there
are
petition
students
that
we
have
granted,
that's
not
the
actual
numbers
as
of
today.
So.
H
H
Then,
on
page
24
you'll
see
the
rationale
behind
the
recommendation
for
the
middle
school
proposed
changes,
which
again
would
be
that
proposed
one
c
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
see
the
impact
it
would
have
on
the
number
of
students
in
that
in
the
three
facilities
ben
franklin
would
increase.
111.
carl
band
would
decrease
slightly
16.
H
Discovery
would
decrease
by
about
95
students,
and
then
you
see
over
on
the
left
hand
side
of
the
display
the
information
as
you
look
at
freeing
reduced
special,
ed
and
ell,
and
then
finally,
the
reason
or
the
rationale
behind
the
recommendation
for
1c
at
the
high
school
level.
Same
data
is
provided
for
you
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
see
the
impact
on
the
number
of
students
in
the
three
high
schools
and,
on
the
left,
hand,
side
the
information
as
the
other
demographic
information
that
we've
discussed
then.
H
The
map,
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
screen
would
be
the
elementary
boundaries
in
the
colored
area.
Now
the
dashed
lines
are
the
secondary
boundaries
and
over
to
its
right,
then,
would
be
the
feeder
system
for
the
different
elementary
schools.
You
would
notice
if
this
recommendation
was
the
one
that
moved
forward,
that
clara
barton,
hawthorne,
the
ed
clap
elementary
and
jefferson
elementary
would
have
a
split
to
two
different
middle
schools
or
two
different
high
schools.
G
G
I
and
I
know,
we've
all
heard
from
folks
yeah,
I'm
just
curious
the
the
human
element
of
of
changes-
and
I
I
don't
know
what
it's
like
when
kids
and
families
go
through
boundary
changes,
but
it's
very
emotional,
I'm
I'm
wondering
about
if
what
the
trade-offs
are
of,
if
you
give
or
take
50
to
100
students
or
whatever,
what
the
trade-offs
are
in
light
of
like
access
and
walkability
transportation
neighborhoods
near
you
know,
I'm
just
curious
some
of
those
human
elements
that
families
face
when
when
there's
when
there's
a
change
in
in
where
their
kids
go
to
school
and
and
and
at
what
point
this
prevails
over
this,
you
know
how:
how
high
do
we
rank
something
like
transportation
access
or
how
high
do
we
rank
walkability
or
near
proximity,
proximity
to
a
school
versus
the
desire
for
balance,
academically
in
number
and
class
size,
and
so
on.
C
So
we've
gone
under
the
construct
of
get
the
elementary
neighborhood
school
concept
in
place,
keep
that
hole
and
then,
after
that
figure
out
what
you
need
to
do
and
that's
what
we've
done.
So
I
think
the
elementary
one
when
you
look
at
it
they're
all
pretty
well
pocketed
within
their
neighborhood
school
area.
G
We
just
continue
briefly
in
your
mind,
dr
schatz.
We
all
know
the
l
and
I'm
not
disagreeing,
I'm
just
curious.
We
all
know
the
elementary
boundaries
it
was
necessary
to
to
revisit
them
and
bring
balance,
especially
with
the
shifts
in
population
and
with
the
new
school
coming
on
board.
C
Well,
that
is,
that
is
one
of
your
choices,
but
I'm
trying
to
be
delicate
now.
C
C
I
will
tell
you
that
if
we
don't
do
something
now,
we
will
be
in
a
reactive
model
in
three
years
and
then
you'll
be
situated
with
what
are
we
going
to
do
now
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
it
has
to
happen
now,
and
there
won't
be
the
time
and
the
things
put
into
it,
for
planning
giving
people
an
opportunity
to
prepare
and
all
those
things
it'll
just
have
to
happen.
You'll
be
we've
seen
that
happen
in
west
fargo,
you
saw
it
happen
with
kennedy,
and
so
it's
certainly
an
option.
C
And
if,
given
that
direction,
that's
what
we'll
do,
but
I
I
would
be
concerned
for
two
three
years
down
the
road
we're
going
to
be
sitting
here
with
a
serious
issue
at
discovery
and
at
davies-
and
you
know
we
could
put
1500
kids
in
the
davies,
but
they
all
won't
have
lockers.
They
all
won't
have,
and
we
won't
maybe
we'll
be
running,
split
shifts
for
classes,
because
you
won't
have
enough
classrooms
to
put
the
kids
in.
J
As
all
of
us
here
are
parents-
and
you
didn't
have
to
go
through
having
kids
go
here,
go
there
kids,
I
mean
it's
a
cliche,
but
kids
adapt
sometimes
much
easier
than
parents
do
I'll,
just
say
it,
and
as
many
of
us,
our
kids
went
to
many
different
schools
and,
as
things
shifted,
our
kids
shifted,
and
you
know
the
good
thing
is
all
our
schools
are
great
schools,
and
so,
if
you
know
it's
painful
at
first,
if
if
kids
are
used
to
sitting
in
the
next
desk
with
their
best
friend,
but
that
hardly
ever
happens
through
middle
school
and
high
school
anyway,
it's
just
part
of
boundary
shifting
it's
reality.
E
Just
piggyback
on
what
linda
said-
and
I
just
wanted
to
share
a
story
that
my
daughter
just
graduated
but
the
grade
in
front
of
her-
they
were
in
four
different
schools.
In
four
years.
They
went
from
discovery
to
agassi
to
south
to
davies.
E
K
L
L
I
believe
if
we
said
well,
let's
just
take
the
elementary
change
right
now
and
don't
do
the
secondary
changes.
First
of
all,
that
isn't
quite
what
we'll
do
anyway,
because
we're
going
to
have
to
do
something
to
determine
which
edclap
students
go
where
or
maybe
we
wouldn't
maybe
we'd
still
take
that
stuff
on
the
north
side
and
send
that
over
to
cbe
and
south
and
take
the
rest
of
it
down
to
davies.
L
Have
you
thought
at
all
about?
How
could
we
do
a
transition
plan?
And
I
understand
that
slows
down
the
number
movement
to
not
create
a
family
that
has
to
decide?
Are
we
going
to
the
north
game
tonight
or
the
daviess
game
or
the
south
game?
I
guess
it
would
be
because
we
have
kids
at
both
schools
competing
in
an
event
tonight.
H
We've
certainly
had
those
conversations
about
the
petition
process
that
would
have
to
follow
and
that
we
would
look
to
a
family
like
that,
as
the
number
one
priority
to
try
to
keep
families
together,
because
I
think
you're
absolutely
right.
We
do
not
want
families
to
have
to
make
those
decisions
so
as
part
of
the
petition
process,
even
currently,
if
there
is
a
family
member
already
in
a
building,
we
give
priority
to
that
family.
We
would
continue
that
into
the
future.
A
Can
I
sort
of
just
to
piggyback
on
on
that
question
in
general
terms,
one
of
the
reasons
we're
having
this
conversation
right
now
is
because
we've
always
felt
we
want
to
give
families
who
may
be
affected
by
decisions
we
make
as
much
notice
as
possible.
Has
there
been
discussion
about
how
I
mean?
Obviously,
people
who
are
interest
might
be
watching
us
on
tv
and
following
this,
but
for
the
masses,
that's
not
the
case.
So
what
is
the
way
we
would
roll
out?
Whatever
just
has
that
decisions
made.
Has
that
discussion
taken
place.
H
I
think
we
would
have
to
put
a
more
detail
to
the
plan,
but
we
would
certainly
utilize
all
of
the
different
resources
that
we
would
have
available
to
make
this
known
to
families,
if
that
is
our
online
and
electronic
newsletters.
If
that
is
our
website,
it's
making
those
announcements
with
families
and
then
most
likely
having
some
meetings
and
some
of
the
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
directly
impacted.
A
Right
and
and
the
the
hope
I
mean
you
know
as
your
president,
my
hope
was
that
we
would
be
able
to
make
this
decision.
You
know
I
in
a
way
the
school
year's
over,
but
by
the
end
of
june,
so
that
there
could
be
some
notifications,
starting
for
families
and
letters
needing
to
be
sent
if
need
be
over
the
summer,
so
that
people
would
know
at
the
beginning
of
next
school
year,
if
not
before
what
changes
might
impact
them
or
their
family
and
so
that
they
would
have
the
time,
for.
C
Make
one
other
comment
yeah
and
we
had
also
talked
about
the
high
school
being
a
role
in
starting
with
ninth
graders,
so
I
think
that
hasn't
been
set.
We
would
roll
it
in.
So,
if
you're,
a
junior
at
one
high
school
you're
not
going
to
have
to
move-
and
we
are
doing
that
because
of
the
high
school
activities
association
rules
for
participation
in
fine
arts-
athletics,
all
those
other
things
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
a
student
who
becomes
ineligible.
G
A
Moved
in
seconded
and
discussion,
rick.
A
N
G
Yeah
I
wasn't
following
no,
it
is,
and,
madam,
madam
president,
the
reason
I'll
explain
this
as
I
I
think
it's
imperative
for
us
to
give
the
public
a
chance
to
digest
this
first
reading
tonight,
with
our
endorsement
of
the
recommendations
presented
by
administration,
puts
us
all
on
the
same
page,
and
yet
it
notices
the
public
that
this
is
impending.
G
Your
your
public
hearing
is
coming.
It
will
be
june
24th,
please
let
us
all
know
at
that
meeting
or
before
in
between
you
know
what
your
thoughts
are.
If
you
have
any
concerns.
K
L
A
We
better
have
a
roll
call.
Please.
A
O
K
F
I
A
J
I
just
have
a
question
of
john,
I
mean
typically,
we
don't
do.
I
mean
these
aren't
city
ordinances
that
require
first
reading.
Second
reading,
are
you
just
saying
we're
kind
of
putting
our
stamp
on
it
and
we'll
have
the
final
vote
next
week,
or
do
you
mean,
like
literally
first
reading
second
reading,
that
if
there's
changes,
then
it
has
to
come
back
again.
G
Madam
president,
in
my
mind,
until
the
next
meeting
is
over,
it's
not
over,
but
we
have
at
this
point
in
time,
given
a
majority
approval
of
the
recommendations
by
the
administration,
and
yet
it
also
calls
for
essentially
what
I
would
call
a
public
hearing
where
the
public
has
notice
and
and
can
weigh
in
on
that,
certainly
even
between
first
and
second
readings,
things
can
change
or
get
amended
or
modified.
B
A
L
I
think
we
could
have
passed
this.
We
could
pass
it
at
the
june
24th
meeting
and
we
may
discover
quite
frankly
that
a
lot
of
the
public
doesn't
even
find
out
about
it
until
we
start
informing
them
next
fall
at
which
time
we
whoever's
on
the
board,
then
could
revisit
it
again.
So
it's
like
any
decision,
you
know
it's,
it
will
make
it
whenever
it
gets
made
and
it'll
get
modified
whenever
it
gets
modified.
N
A
So
I
want
to
ask
again:
is
there
anyone
who
has
concerns
of
some
sort
that
you
know
caused
you
not
to
vote
in
favor
of
this?
That
is
information
you
need
for
next
time
that
could
help
you
or
address
something
for
the
rest
of
the
board
that
we
should
know
or
ask
to
know.
Jim.
L
L
F
Chris
similar
jim's
comments-
I
just
everyone
knows
I'll
disclose.
I
have
children,
we
have
children
that
go
to
claire
burton
hawthorne,
I'm
okay
either
way.
I
my
question
is-
and
this
goes
back
to
many
retreats
ago-
are
we
doing
enough
to
incentivize
enrollment
at
north?
Are
we
letting
people
know
what
great
stuff
is
available
up
there,
so
the
parents,
if
they
choose
to,
can
drive
their
kids
or
provide
busing?
Frankly
I
mean,
if
we're
already
going
to
bus
kids
from
claire
barton,
hawthorne
and
jefferson
to
north
what
if
we
allowed
families
transportation?
F
What
if
we
said?
Okay,
here's
your
pickup
spot,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
house
to
house.
We
can
say:
hey
bring
all
your
jefferson
kids
that
want
to
go
to
north
here,
bring
all
your
claire
barton,
kids
that
want
to
go
to
north
here
and
we'll
bust
them.
For
you,
then
it's
voluntary
and
then
how
about
the
new
stem
center
at
ndsu,
some
great
collaboration
between
north
high
and
the
new
stem
cells.
That's
only
available
there
and
then
I'm
thinking
about
distance
learning.
If,
if
kids
are
having
to
travel
all
over,
we
have
amazing
technology.
F
F
We
had
this
amazing
presentation
from
the
staff
at
jefferson
about
their
brewing
pride
and
that
just
kills
me
because
those
kids
really
love
that
they're
bruins,
and
I
mean
those
are
hardships
that
I
take
really
seriously
at
claire
barton,
hawthorne,
most
of
the
families
that
I've
talked
to
they're
fine,
going
to
ben
from
franklin
and
north.
It's
not
a
big
deal,
but
I
just
I
don't
feel
confident.
We've
exhausted
the
possibilities
with
that,
so
that
that's
just
where
I'm
at.
F
A
Anyone
else,
thank
you
very
much
that
was
excellent
conversation,
so
we
just
have
a
few
other
items
on
our
agenda
committee
and
liaison
reports
robin.
B
A
F
I
did
south
this
year
had
a
bunch
of
great
kids
that
I
recognized
so,
but
I
have
to
tell
you
south
was
the
only
one
where
they
videotaped
the
school
board
members
handing
out
the
diplomas
at
north
and
davies,
they
videotaped
the
principal
shaking
the
hands
of
the
kids,
which
I
thought
was
much
more
appropriate
because
I
don't
need
to
see
myself
handing
out
100
diplomas.
Thank
you.
Neither
does
anyone
else,
but
it
was
really
just
a
terrific
ceremony
and
a
lot
of
great
speeches.
N
E
A
A
So
just
keep
that
in
mind
for
future,
even
if
you're
not
going
to
be
on
the
board,
go
to
the
the
woodrow
graduation
sometime,
if
you've
not
had
an
opportunity,
are
there
any
things
important
that
I'm
missing
with
my
dates
that
I
have
to
remind
people
about
nothing
new
from
the
last
meeting?
Yes,
picnic?
L
The
state
school
board
association
board
and
met
over
the
weekend
and
on
monday,
did
a
number
of
things
changed.
A
couple
of
personnel
policies
for
our
employees.
Finalize
the
budget
finalized.
Well,
I
shouldn't
say:
finalized.
L
I
talked
a
lot
about
how
the
convention
is
going
to
work
since
this
year,
it's
going
to
just
be
thursday
friday,
so
no
staying
over
friday
night
for
saturday
functions
had
a
presentation
from
the
superintendent
of
public
instruction
and
the
director
from
whatever
minots
areas
rea
is
referred
to
and
they
are
launching,
through
the
dpi
budget,
a
board
development
process
to
try
and
help
boards
get
up
to
speed
on
a
number
of
subjects
that
I
think
we'll
probably
see
unleashed
sometime
early.
This
fall
a
voluntary
thing
for
boards
to
take
advantage
of.
L
L
They
also
are
pretty
sure
front
and
center
is
going
to
be
a
discussion
on
fund
balances.
One
of
the
things
I
told
them
that
they
needed
to
get
information
on,
isn't
dpi's
report
of
the
ending
fund
balance.
What
you
need
to
make
sure
you
understand
before
you
set
an
arbitrary
threshold,
is
the
low
point
in
the
year
of
the
fund
balance
and
to
that
end
brock,
I
think
you'll
be
getting
a
request
from
the
state
school
board
association,
I'm
guessing.
It
would
be
in
december
or
january.
L
L
Yeah
so
that
may
come
back,
I
don't
really
see
them
reallocating
it
back
the
way
it
was
before,
but
maybe
they'll
take
some
kind
of
thing.
The
really
good
news
I
heard
out
of
them
is:
they
are
pretty
convinced
that
there'll
be
a
significant
increase
in
the
school
construction
loan
allocation
dollars,
because
they
recognize
that
there
was
a
lot
more
demand
than
they
had
dollars
for
they
also
all,
although
they're
not
certain.
L
What
will
surface
think
they'll
be
in
equal
demand
for
a
huge
amount
of
money
if
in
fact
they
tackle
the
tffr
pers
dilemma
and
choose
to
go
a
different
direction
and
have
to
fully
fund
their
liability
there.
L
So
as
he
put
it,
we
can
put
400
million
into
school
construction
or
we
can
fix
the
pension
plans
for
400
million,
but
we
really
can't
do
both.
I
explained
to
him.
He
could,
because
the
school
construction
funds
are
alone
and
when
they
come
back,
they
can
fund
it
into
the
plan
and
they
don't
have
to
make
the
plan
a
hundred
percent
liability
free
day,
one
of
freezing
it.
So
he
kind
of
looked
at
me
and
afterwards
said.
Could
I
call
you
about
that.
O
L
And
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
turned
in
the
stuff
you've
been
collecting
yet.
O
L
Is
fine
I
mean
you,
can
you
can
just
bring
it
to
the
picnic
yourselves,
but
for
those
of
you
that
may
not
be
serving
you
know
on
the
board
at
that
point
in
time,
if
it's
easier,
just
call
me
and
I'll
run
by
your
house
and
pick
up
the
stuff.
A
L
They're
going
to
be
looking
at
every
subdivision
of
government
and
the
number
that
scared
me
is
they
just
really
are
having
a
hard
time
getting
their
hands
around
the
fact
that
it
would
ever
be
more
than
like
10
percent,
and
I
think
at
a
10
fund,
balance
we'll
end
up
borrowing
money
if
they're
using
the
ending
june
fund
balance
as
that
number,
as
opposed
to
the
mean
average
over
the
course
of
the
year.
G
The
other
committee
report-
I
I
just
feel
so
bad
with
these
technologies.
You
know
today
it's
like
rob
and
I
get
to
facebook.
Her
happy
birthday
messages,
dr
schatz,
I
couldn't
get
a
hold
of
him
and
I
got
his
cell
phone.
I
really
wish
I
would
have
sung
in
my
happy
birthday,
so
it'd
be
a
keeper.
Well,
I
texted
you
one
too,
and,
and
so
yours
was
sunday
and
chris's
is
friday-
the
13th
so
happy
birthday.
Chris.
A
Oh
friday,
the
13th
is
lucky.
My
son
was
born
on
friday,
the
13th
so
good
thing
next
board.
Meeting
june
24th
just
want
to
remind
you
that
the
new
board
members
will
be
invited
for
an
orientation
prior
to
that
meeting
that
and
will
be
invited
to
dinner
and
to
the
board
meetings
so,
hopefully
we'll
get
to
meet.
Whoever
those
folks
are
and
debriefing.