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Fargo Public Schools - Board of Education Meeting - Live Broadcast - August 10, 2021
B
D
A
A
14
individuals
have
signed
up
to
speak
to
us
this
evening.
Each
individual
will
have
three
minutes
to
provide
comments
at
the
podium,
and
here
is
the
official
comment
that
I
need
to
read
at
this
time.
At
this
time,
the
board
will
hear
comments
from
the
public.
A
We
ask
that
each
speaker
who
has
signed
up
to
address
the
board
state
their
name
and
address
for
the
record
speakers,
must
refrain
from
using
this
forum
to
criticize
or
complain
about
a
specific
employee
or
a
student
by
name.
Vulgar
or
profane
language
will
not
be
tolerated.
The
board
is
interested
in
your
comments
and
we
will
listen
carefully.
A
We
are
not
obligated
to
respond
or
to
debate
issues
in
this
forum.
Should
you
desire
a
written
response
to
a
specific
question.
You
may
request
it
this
evening.
As
I
mentioned,
each
speaker
will
be
allotted
a
maximum
of
three
minutes
upon
conclusion
of
the
allotted
time.
A
chime
will
sound
and
you
will
be
asked
to
conclude.
F
Hi,
my
name
is
sultan
moidik.
I
I
live
on
the
third
street
south
first
fleet
north
in
fargo,
and
I
have
two
kids
in
the
school
district,
one
starting
third
grade
and
one
starting
first
grade.
F
F
The
arguments
I
raised
have
been
made
similarly
at
that
point
by
the
aap
and
have
since
been
echoed
by
the
cdc
and
by
fargo
and
cass
county
public
health.
So
I
don't
want
to
just
restate
all
the
scientific
evidence
in
favor
of
indoor
masking
here.
You've
read
it
it's
strong
and
it's
unequivocal
and
it's
based
on
facts.
F
So
for
us
to
now
turn
around
while
we
are
safely
vaccinated
and
send
them
into
a
situation
that
we
know
is
unsafe.
That
we
know
is
unpredictable
that
we
know,
is
perilous
without
any
protection
or
to
offer
a
mere
recommendation
that
puts
the
burden
of
choice
on
children
that,
because
of
peer
pressure,
will
affect
absolutely
nothing.
G
Hi,
my
name
is
lisa
esping.
I
live
at
6319,
14th
street
north
embargo,
mental
health.
Has
this
been
considered
when
talk
about
talking
about
implementing
a
mask
requirement
for
our
students?
What
are
the
rates
of
anxiety
and
depression
among
young
children?
What
are
the
rates
of
children
that
now
need
counseling
due
to
wearing
masks?
G
G
Last
year
we
struggled
with
my
daughter
going
to
school
some
days
even
forcing
her
to
go
to
school.
This
is
not.
This
was
very
unlike
her
as
she
is
a
bubbly
girl
who
is
always
smiling.
She
loves
her
teachers
and
her
friends.
We
could
not
wait
until
the
end
of
the
year
to
give
her
a
break
from
masks
after
weekly
counseling
for
almost
three
months
now
she
is
in
a
great
place.
We
have
made
huge
strides
shout
out
to
her
counselor.
G
She
is
so
excited
to
go
to
school.
Again.
I
am
really
hoping
not
to
end
up
back
where
we
came
from
from
her
due
to
having
to
wear
a
mask
again.
I
seem
about
to
hear
a
lot
of
kids
are
resilient
talk
when
changes
are
made
concerning
our
students,
but
why?
Why
is
this
the
excuse
of
so
many
things
in
our
district?
G
It
is
normal
for
students
to
see
chairs,
thrown
windows,
broken
verbal
outbursts
mask
wearing,
but
it's
okay,
because
they're
resilient
they'll
get
through
it,
but
when
do
we
as
the
parents
as
an
and
as
a
district
put
a
stop
to
it?
These
are
things
they
shouldn't
need
to
be
resilient
to
educating
and
empowering
all
students
to
succeed
is
the
mission
of
the
fargo
public
school
system.
Educating.
If
we
can't
educate
effectively
with
masks
on,
then
I
would
ask
what
is
the
purpose
of
school?
G
A
G
A
little
stage
fright
so
I'm
going
to
read
her
speech
for
her.
That's
great!
Thank
you
hi,
my
name
is
ellison.
I
will
be
in
third
grade
this
year.
Last
year
was
really
hard
for
me.
Many
mornings,
I
had
tummy
aches
before
going
to
school,
and
I
didn't
really
want
to
go
wearing
masks
made
this
worse,
as
I
felt
very
anxious
when
I
wore
one
not
being
able
to
breathe
in
fresh
air
or
not
being
able
to
see
friends
and
teachers
smiles
and
the
look
on
their
faces
is
what
I
didn't
like
about.
G
Wearing
a
mask.
I've
been
working
really
hard
with
a
counselor
to
help
with
my
anxiety
and
this
summer
has
been
so
much
better.
I
am
afraid
if
we
have
to
wear
masks
this
school
year.
I
will
go
back
to
where
I
started
from,
because
for
me
it's
really
hard
to
learn
anything
at
school,
with
masks
on
and
isn't
that
why
we
are
at
school
in
the
first
place.
H
Hello,
my
name
is
cassie
schmidt,
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
our
group.
Let
parents
decide
that
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
science.
We
keep
citing
science.
Well,
if
we're
talking
about
respiratory
droplets,
we
happen
to
have
done
our
research
and
we
know
that
covid19
is
transmitted
through
the
air.
It's
got
airborne
transmission.
H
So
why
don't
we
talk
about
when
you
guys
are
trying
to
put
mitigation
strategies
in
place
that
protect
your
staff
and
protect
our
students?
Why
don't
we
talk
about
the
millions
of
dollars
that
were
spent
once
again
on
air
ionization
filtration
systems?
I
doubt
most
of
the
people
in
this
room
have
heard
that
each
fargo
public
school
building
has
had
installed
air
ionization
filtration
systems.
H
I
have
the
specs
for
these
systems.
They
are
basically
virus
zappers,
they
ionize
the
air
to
clump
covered
particles
together,
because
without
doing
so,
the
coveted
particles
are
too
small
to
get
stuck
in
the
many
layered
hvac
filters.
The
filters
then
act
as
a
bug
zapper
just
about,
and
they
have
a
kill
time
for
different
viruses.
H
H
It
is
not
your
place
to
turn
public
health
recommendations
to
requirements
and
in
fact,
you
have
no
statutory
authority
to
do
so,
meaning
there
is
no
law
on
the
books
anywhere
in
the
state
of
north
dakota.
That
gives
an
elected
body
like
such
as
yourselves
the
authority
to
turn
public
health
recommendations
to
requirements.
H
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
thanks
for
being
here
we're
not
going
to
take
audience
participation
from
anyone
other
than
that
signed
up
to
speak.
So
please,
even
if
you're,
if
you're,
supportive
or
if
you're,
against
the
comments,
please
allow
the
person
that
is
making
the
comments
to
do
so,
and
we
will
move
on
to
the
next
person.
Melinda
olson.
I
I
Other
children,
that
is
in
this
county
or
city,
I
feel
that
it's
no
surprise
that
the
face
mask
came
back
on
here.
To
be
honest
with
you,
I
do
want
to
make
for
a
record
to
point
out
that
you
do
follow
a
policy
on
governance,
and
so,
when
I
watch
this
meeting
today,
I
would
hope
to
expect
that
you
will
be
following
the
governance,
exactly
of
which
you
are
here
to
to
follow.
You
are
here
to
be
the
voice
as
I'm
not
as
I'm
so
nervous.
Sorry,.
I
You
are
oh,
I
gotta
find
it,
so
there
is
a
vision
that
you
guys
set
forth
by
listening
to
we,
the
people
and
everyone
else,
and
you
say
we
can
bring
an
expert
in
well.
You
know
a
better
expert
than
your
own
children's
parents,
and
so
I
feel
that
you
aren't
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
share
our
points
of
view,
and
we
are
the
ones
who
pointed
you
to
our
school
board.
I
So
remember
that
all
members
are
here
to
exercise
honestly
in
written
and
interpersonal
interactions
maintain
a
focus
on
common
goals,
which
I
would
hope
that
every
one
of
our
goals
is
the
education
of
our
children
and
the
safety
and
health
of
each
and
every
individual
share.
Information
and
knowledge
give
direction
as
a
whole
and
members
will
not
intentionally
mislead
or
misinform
each
other.
They
will
also
not
maintain
hidden.
J
I
It
came
across
my
no
I.
I
came
across
a
letter
from
the
state
department
of
health
that
was
assigned
straight
to
the
superintendent
and
it
was
not
signed
by
the
individual
and
it
kind
of
just
put
a
red
flag
to
me
to.
Why
did
the
school
board
receive
a
letter
from
the
state
health
department
that
was
unsigned
by
the
individual
in
which
they
in
which
wrote
it?
I
And
so
my
question
comes
into
play,
who
wrote
this
letter
and
if
they
did
do
they
have
a
conflict
of
interest
as
we
are
following
our
governing
policies
in
which
we
are
here
today?
That's
why
you
are
here
is
to
save
a
po
say,
a
piece
share,
your
knowledge,
and
then
we
all
discuss
it
and
come
to
an
agreement
by
listening
to
us.
We,
the
people,
so
I'm
going
to
finish
with
any
law
which
violates
the
inangible
route
in
inalienable
rights
of
a
man
essentially
unjust
in
tentacle.
I
It
is
not
law
at
all
maximum
million
russ
beers.
Pierre
said
it-
and
I
want
to
finish
off
with
we-
hold
these
truths,
to
be
self-evident-
that
all
men
are
created
equal,
that
they
are
endowed
by
their
creator
with
certain
un
ineligible,
inalienable
rights
that,
among
these
life,
liberty
and
the
pursuit
of
happiness-
and
so
I
asked
as
the
school
board
is
that
you
hold
yourself
accountable
to
the
policies
in
which
you
are
governed.
I
K
Nicole
larson
1822
7th
street
south
fargo,
I
spoke
a
few
times
last
spring
and
I'm
not
surprised
that
we're
back
here,
but
I
kind
of
am
and
I
just
wanted.
I
just
really
can't
believe
that
we,
as
adults
are
here
to
cover
children's
faces
with
cloth
or
paper
masks
from
morning
till
evening,
monday,
through
friday
last
spring
fall.
It
was
to
protect
grandma.
K
Now
it's
to
protect
themselves,
I'm
not
worried
about
the
high
schoolers
they're
not
going
to
wear
them
they're
going
to
have
them
here
all
day
or
they
take
them
off,
put
them
in
their
pockets.
So
then
the
teachers
are
constantly
after
them
and
then
they
just
walk
away
and
they
pull
it
down
again,
but
I
am
concerned
about
the
little
kids
and
I
just.
I
really
can't
believe
that
we
are
actually
considering
covering
their
faces
from
morning
till
afternoon.
Oh,
but
we
have
to
tell
them.
Oh
it's
I
just
especially
you
know.
K
Are
they
even
sick?
I
mean
what's
the
goal,
our
numbers
are
at
what
now
so
when's
the
goal?
When
do
we
take
them
off?
Never.
Are
we
always
going
to
be
concerned?
We're
waiting
for
vaccines,
how
many
people
are
going
to
do
that?
Grandma's
been
vaccinated
and
many
adults
that
want
to
be
vaccinated
and
kids
are
still
paying.
The
price
kids
are
still
going
to
be
masked.
Even
the
kids
that
did
get
vaccinated
are
still
going
to
be
masked.
K
K
My
kids
are
teens.
We
have
lots
of
friends
to
our
house,
you
know-
and
it's
just
absurd-
I
so
now
they
go
to
school
and
they
got
to
get
used
to
mass.
My
kids
have
full-time
jobs.
This
summer
they
didn't
wear
mass,
we
were
all
over,
they
didn't
more
mass
and
I
just
think
you
know
you
can
have
all
the
titles
you
want,
and
you
can
talk
about
all
these
ideas.
They
sound
like
best
practice,
but
in
real
life
do
they
work.
K
I
mean
I
hear
a
mass
work.
Max
maths
are
great
they
this,
but
I
don't
before
2020
I
was
always
taught
they
don't
work
in
the
public
and
you
want
kids
to
act
like
surgical
nurses
and
surgical
doctors,
and
some
experts
didn't
laugh
at
the
moms
when
they're
up
here
talking.
You
can
hear
them
giggling
over
here
at
the
last
meeting
in
april.
L
L
L
Mask
work
to
trap
a
droplet,
but
a
mask
also
is
a
porous
filter.
If
you
understand
the
process
of
osmosis
breathing
in
breathing
out
breaks
that
droplet
down,
if
you
take
a
look,
stanford
did
a
study
also
released
in
march
on
the
effectiveness
of
masks.
After
30
minutes
of
continuous
wear,
75
of
its
efficiency
had
decreased
by
the
time
it
was
saturated,
which
is
about
two
hours
for
most
kids.
L
University
of
california,
los
angeles,
harvard-
and
I
think
it's
cambridge
over
in
the
uk-
have
done
studies
on
the
transmission
and
depending
on
how
they
classify
the
people
that
have
gotten
sick.
70
percent
of
all
infections
to
95
percent,
depending
on
the
methodology,
is
from
airborne
transmission.
L
When
you
hear
community
spread,
that's
airborne,
transmission
person
was
on
a
bus
back
in
april
of
2000
became
ill.
He
sat
in
one
spot
was
on
that
bus
didn't
move
around
35
of
the
60
passengers
on
that
bus
came
down
with
covet.
He
was
the
source,
he
was
asymptomatic,
but
he
started
at
the
time
and
he
started
feel
ill
by
the
end
of
the
trip.
L
So
when
I,
when
you
guys,
are
talking
about
masks,
you're
talking
about
a
one
percent
period
or
protection
period,
instead
of
thinking
about
the
other
mental
health
effects,
also,
the
fact
that
these
masks
aren't
worn
properly
for
by
these
kids
they're
on
and
off
on
and
off
an
efficiency,
worn
mask
level.
Three
and
above
medical
black
mask
is
the
only
real
protection,
otherwise
mass
are
ineffective.
M
Chris
lindbergh
with
south
fargo
last
year,
my
son
made
me
a
happy
nine-year-old
kid
running
around
comes
home,
just
depressed
horrible
feeling
doesn't
want
to
do
anything.
My
daughter
this
year,
going
into
kindergarten
was
all
happy
heard
about
possibility
of
mask.
She
absolutely
wants
to
refuse
to
go
to
school.
M
My
son
loves
school
before
this
garbage
hit.
He
doesn't
want
to
wear
him.
He
doesn't
heck
what
time
trying
to
learn.
My
daughter
now,
like
I
said,
excited,
doesn't
want
to
go.
How
many
parents
do
we
have
to
watch
and
see?
Have
their
parents
come
home,
miserable
we're
their
parents?
It's
my
job
to
protect
them
my
job
to
keep
them
safe,
my
job
to
do
what's
right
for
them.
That's
my
decision,
not
yours!
M
My
everyone
thinks
mask
works,
masks,
don't
work!
You
see
people
shaking
their
heads
behind
me.
It
doesn't
matter
it's
on
you.
You
think
they
work.
You
wear
them!
Your
kid
wears
them.
I
don't
think
they
work,
I'm
not
wearing
them.
I
haven't
worn
them.
My
kids
haven't
worn
them,
I'm
a
parent!
That's
my
choice!
Nobody
else's!
No
one
up
here!
No
one
behind
me!
Nobody
don't
tell
my
kids
what
to
do.
I'm
their
parents,
my
job
to
protect
them,
not
yours,.
A
Faith
dixon,
okay,
faith,
dixon
is
next
and
again.
If
everyone
could
please
respect
the
time
that
we
have
here
for
public
comment
and
honor,
those
that
have
signed
up
to
speak
and
again
whether
you
agree
or
disagree
feel
free
to
hold
your
applause.
Thank
you.
Welcome
faith.
N
N
N
Let's
do
right,
somebody
said:
take
the
feelings
out
of
it.
You're
absolutely
right.
It's
shown
it's
spreading
all
over.
I
don't
want
to
see
it
happen
again.
I
have
a
business,
I
have
children
and
I
don't
want
to
see
them
in
a
hospital
connected
to
some
tubes,
because
we
want
to
listen
to
those
that
don't
know
the
truth.
I
haven't
went
to
school
in
the
medical
field,
but
I
trust
the
doctors
when
I'm
sick.
N
I
go
to
the
doctor,
so
I'm
trusting
them
just
as
we're
trusting
you
all
to
do
what
is
right
for
these
children,
we
don't
have
the
handbook
or
the
playbook
to
be
a
great
parent,
but
we
can't
say
that
these
people
that
stand
behind
us,
the
ones
that
have
delivered
our
children,
the
ones
that
are
delivered
most
of
us
in
this
room,
we're
going
to
trust
them,
and
I
ask
that
you
can
continue
to
do
what
is
right
and
let's
follow.
Let's
follow
the
science,
it
will
happen.
B
O
O
That's
the
decision
you
need
to
make.
I
want
to
speak
recently.
We
receive
an
email
from
the
school
district,
giving
parents
option
of
online
and
this
option
will
be
through
the
north
dakota
center
for
distant
learning.
That's
the
same
program
they
used
when
we
first
went
into
online
and
they
used
it
for
the
high
school
kids.
There
were
so
many
parents
had
challenges
with
that
and
there's
nobody
there
to
help
a
student.
It's
kind
of
your
student
is
on
their
own
they're,
their
own
teacher.
As
a
parent.
O
You
have
to
be
there
to
help
your
child,
otherwise
the
child
falls
behind
and
there
were
so
many
parents
that
didn't
even
know
their
kids
were
falling
behind,
because
that
was
the
option
that
was
offered
until
virtual
academy
came
in.
So
my
thing
is
that
you
provide
that
kind
of
choices,
but
yet
you
don't
have
our
children
on
special
education
iep
in
mind.
O
How
are
the
parents
who
have
children
on
iep
supposed
to
choose
that
option,
knowing
their
children
will
miss
those
services
by
the
way
that
is
required
by
lawyer
to
provide
so
follow
public
school?
You
cannot
be
making
a
decisions
and
not
have
all
children
with
special
education
and
help
them
in
mind
when
you're,
making
choices
and
decisions,
and
our
children
has
always
been
left
behind.
You
always
think
about
the
general
education
students
and
you
don't
think
about
the
children
on
a
special
education,
falco
public
school.
O
You
need
to
stop
and
start
thinking
about
all
the
children
and
follow
your
own
mission
statement
that
all
children
will
succeed,
follow
that,
and
so
what
I'm
asking
is
that
the
school
district
go
back
and
look
at
that.
So
if
parents
choose
to
have
their
children
online,
that
the
north
dakota
center
for
distant
learning
is
not
an
option
for
student
or
special
education.
O
P
Hi
I'm
ron
gall.
I
live
at
11,
9th
street
south
fargo.
I
have
a
12
year
old
in
fargo
public
schools
who
is
vaccinated
and
very
gladly
wears
a
mask
and
doesn't
seem
to
have
a
problem.
Just
despite
the
fact
he
previously
was
an
iep
and
and
had
some
needed
some
help
in
learning
it's
you
know
it's
a
mask.
P
P
Now
we
see
a
science
denialism
around
epidemiology
and
we
this
goes
along
with
historical
denialism
of
people
trying
to
stop
teaching
about
african-american
history
and
indigenous
history.
In
our
schools,
I
heard
a
pediatrician
on
the
radio
the
other
day
talk
about
the
kids,
who
were
the
severe
cases
on
tubes,
didn't
get
vaccinated
and
how
they
explain
to
their
parents.
P
P
Q
Q
I
do
trust
all
of
you
to
make
a
wise
decision.
You
guys.
Nothing
here
has
been
said
that
you
guys
haven't
already
heard
right
about
researched.
So
I
support
whatever
decision
you
guys
come
to
my
one.
My
one
thing
I
like
to
mention
is-
and
I
guess
I
tell
my
kids
this
all
the
time
better-
be
safe
than
sorry
hearing
the
people
in
the
audience
and
hearing
their
stories
and
their
children.
I
hurt
for
them,
and
I
know
you
guys
just
the
same
way.
Q
R
R
The
level
of
harm
they
can
do
mass
can
do
supersedes
the
good
they
can
do
in
a
school
setting.
Kids
aren't
leaving
them
alone,
like
the
sanitary
germ
catching
devices.
They're
intended
to
be
most
kids
will
not
be
masked
after
school
or
at
any
activities
outside
of
school
either,
as
they
have
an
all
summer
long.
R
A
A
Well,
thank
you
for
being
here
and
and
hearing
the
discussion.
Dr
gandhi,
superintendents
report.
T
Sure
to
the
board
of
education
and
to
the
fargo
education
association.
I
think
I
just
want
to
express
my
gratitude
and
congratulations
on
a
successful
contract
negotiation
session
as
well
to
both
entities.
Administration
has
been
working
to
make
all
the
changes
to
the
contract
that
were
solidified
at
the
end
of
those
negotiations
and
that
contract
went
out
so
just
a
reminder
to
the
board
that
as
soon
as
that
is
ratified
by
the
fea,
we
will
probably
need
to
call
a
special
board
meeting
and
we'll
work
with
the
board
president.
T
D
Rebecca
I
apologize
to
not
pull
this,
but
the
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
there
was
president
robin
nelson
was
noticed
to
open
the
meeting,
and
I
apologize
for
not
catching
that
earlier.
Can
we
can
we
make
a
little
bit
of
a
accommodation
for
that
to
correct
that
in
a
minute?
Is.
A
D
Of
the
consent
agenda
with
the
the
change
in
the
minutes
of
the
regular
board
meeting
to
reflect
president
knudson
started
the
meeting
is
there
a
second.
A
Second,
all
right:
there's
a
motion,
the
second
by
dr
tracy,
newman,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
yes,
yes,
yes
oppose
the
same
sign
motion
passes.
We
are
going
to
take
a
five
minute
break
to
get
organized
here
a
little
bit.
We
have
a
few
people
that
are
going
to
be
joining
us
on
the
phone,
so
I
would
expect
about
five
minutes.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
time
for
them
to
get
on
the
phone.
A
A
A
Thank
you,
stephen
brenton,
nietzsche,
okay,
brenton.
Thank
you.
Those
are
the
three
we
were
planning
to
have
join
us,
so
we
are
ready
to
go.
The
first
item
under
the
business
section
is
the
20
21
22
school
year,
coveted
19,
recommendations,
memo,
21,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
dr
gandhi.
At
this
point,.
T
Sure,
thank
you
board.
Members
in
your
packet.
You
have
a
board
memo
that
talked
about.
The
series
of
events
have
led
us
to
this
conversation
and
this
item
as
a
business
item
at
today's
board
meeting.
So
I
am
not
going
to
go
through
that
just
for
the
sake
of
time
and
not
to
be
repetitive,
but
there
are
a
few
things
that
that
I
want
to
share
today,
first
and
foremost,
why
administration
is
bringing
this
recommendation
for
you
today.
T
This
recommendation
is
obviously
a
result
of
fargo
cast
public
health,
who
has
been
advising
fargo
public
schools,
echoing
this
guidance,
from
cdc
about
universal
masking
for
students
and
staff,
as
we
open
this
next
school
year,
along
with
other
mitigation
strategies
have
been
outlined
in
both
the
letter
that
is
attached
to
the
board
memo
and
the
guidance
that
they
have
provided
us
with.
That
being
said,
we
do
have
several
guests
that
will
be
available
to
answer
some
questions
today,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
introduce
them.
T
So
I
just
want
to
thank
them
for
their
time
and
being
available
today,
as
a
resource
administration
recommends,
adopting
the
guidance
provided
by
fargo
cast
public
health
and
utilizing
their
guidance
as
we
move
forward
to
address
the
potential
threats
of
covenant
19
to
both
our
students
and
our
staff.
I'm
not
going
to
talk
today
about
science,
because
I
do
feel
that
we
have
experts
in
the
room
that
will
be
able
to
speak
to
that
and
speak
further
into
the
recommendations
have
been
made.
T
I
will
tell
you
why
I
believe
it
is
important
that
administration,
regardless
of
the
board
action,
brings
a
recommendation
to
you
that
is
partnering
and
valuing
the
the
expertise
and
the
guidance
has
been
provided
to
us.
I
think
there's
two
critical
reasons
for
that.
One
is
about
the
organizational
integrity
and
our
health
as
an
organization.
T
While
I
am
proud
of
leaders-
and
I
am
proud
of
organizations
that
have
strong
leaders,
I
also
think
that
we
have
to
be
humble
and
recognize
that
there's
value
in
the
partnerships
that
we
have
and
the
expertise
that
we
have.
If
I
were
asked
my
advice
by
a
partnering
organization
around
how
to
run
a
school
or
how
to
run
a
district,
I
would
hope,
although
they
have
the
sole
authority
to
do
that,
that
they
would
contextualize
the
advice
that
I
give
them
the
guidance
I
gave
them
in
a
full
scope
of
things.
T
I
think
that
it
is
a
dangerous
precedent
for
any
organization
to
discard
the
experience
of
their
partners
that
they
have
and
the
expert
advice
in
a
room.
I
think
the
second
piece
that
we
would
bring
forward.
This
recommendation
is
also
because
it
undervalues
education
as
an
institution
for
education.
We
value
our
students
pursuing
academics
and
whether
that
might
be
in
a
specialized
field,
because
we
recognize
that
not
everyone
has
the
same
level
of
training
in
the
same
field.
That
they're
in.
T
I
think
at
the
point
that
we
begin
to
make
decisions
as
an
organization
that
say
we're
going
to
undervalue
the
partnerships
that
we
have
or
individuals
having
expertise
in
a
certain
area.
We
are
unintentionally
undervaluing
education
in
itself,
because,
at
what
point
are
we
no
longer
making
a
decision
based
off
of
the
advice
of
someone
that
has
training
and
gone
through
a
large
longer
period
of
time
in
school
or
developing
expertise
in
a
certain
area
versus
based
on
her
own
feelings?
T
So
those
are
the
two
reasons
why
administration
is
going
to
support
the
recommendation,
because
I
think
that
if
we
don't,
then
we
need
to
have
a
larger
conversation
about.
How
do
we
make
decisions
moving
forward
if
we
are
no
longer
valuing
or
utilizing
the
guidance
that
we
are
receiving
from
experts
that
we
partner
with
as
an
organization
not
just
for
public
health
but
for
other
areas
as
well?
T
I
also
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
function
of
administration.
That
being
said,
our
goal
is
to
advise
you.
Our
goal
is
to
administer
the
actions
of
the
board
as
a
governing
entity
and
to
provide
guidance
when
that
guidance
is
sought.
After
that's
what
we
are
here
to
do
today,
if
the
board
decides
to
make
a
decision
that
goes
against
administrative
recommendations,
that
is
fine,
we
will
be
there
tomorrow.
We
were
going
to
continue
to
provide
an
education
for
our
students.
That
is
what
we
want
to
do.
T
However,
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
bringing
everything
that
we
can
to
the
board,
so
the
board
can
make
a
decision
based
on
with
regard
to
risk,
reward
and
liability.
That
is
the
role
of
a
board
to
make
those
decisions
that
impact
an
organization
as
an
educator.
I
also
don't
want
to
lose
this
moment,
because
I
think
this
is
an
education
moment
for
our
students,
our
community,
because
there
is
a
lesson
in
civics
here
today
too.
There
is
no
question
that,
as
a
board,
you
have
to
make
a
very
difficult
decision
today.
T
One
decision
might
make
you
the
only
school
district
in
north
dakota
implementing
a
mitigation
strategy.
That's
the
truth.
Another
decision
might
make
a
lot
of
individuals
that
have
nothing
but
the
best
interests
of
their
students
and
their
own
child
and
mind
feel
that
their
voice
is
unheard.
That
is
also
the
truth.
It
is
a
very
difficult
discussion
and
decision
that
you
need
to
make
there's
also
a
potential
lesson
here,
based
on
your
actions
about.
Sometimes
we
need
to
make
individual
sacrifices
for
the
common
good.
T
Whatever
the
decision
is
overall,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
for
education
today,
and
I
hope
that,
through
the
civil
discourse
and
through
the
meaningful
conversation
that
you
have
today,
we
can
exemplify
that
for
our
students
and
our
staff,
because
of
that
I'm
going
to
make
several
requests
to
the
board
today.
As
you
approach
this
topic,
first
is
communicate
your
why
you
are
a
governing
entity
for
3,
600
employees
and
several
families
that
represent
11
300
students.
T
T
Secondly,
I'm
going
to
ask
that
you
don't
limit
the
conversations
today
to
masks
if
you
look
at
the
recommendations
provided
from
fargo
cast
public
health.
This
is
not
just
about
masks.
Mask
is
one
layer
of
several
mitigation
strategies.
The
impact
for
schools
are
significant,
whether
or
not
we
implement
mass
as
a
mitigation
strategies.
There
are
several
side
impacts
that
we
need
to
discuss
today.
T
T
There
is
a
mass
to
mass
exemption
if
you
allow
or
if
you
do,
make
a
motion
not
to
allow
mass
in
our
schools,
but
we
continue
to
follow
all
those
other
mitigation
strategies
and
the
exclusionary
rules.
Then
that
might
put
the
district
in
a
situation
where
we
have
a
large
amount
of
students
constantly
being
quarantined
or
asked
to
isolate
because
they
were
part
of
an
unmass
exposure.
T
If
the
decision
today
is
for
not
to
follow
the
guidance
by
our
expert
partnering
organizations,
then
how
do
we,
as
an
organization,
know
moving
forward
what
to
do
when
things
change?
Last
year
we
had
a
built-in
system.
With
the
covet
19
committee,
we
worked
with
fargo
cast
public
health.
There
were
times
where
fargo
cast
public
health
made
recommendations
that
were
not
aligned
with
the
cdc.
T
Currently
they
are
making
a
recommendation.
That
is
two
weeks
from
now
three
weeks
from
now
things
change,
but
our
board
is
no
longer
saying
we're
going
to
follow
the
recommendations
from
fargo
cast
public
health.
Please
provide
that
guidance
to
administration
on
what
are
we
supposed
to
do?
Are
we
supposed
to
wait
till
every
other
board
meeting
to
talk
about
the
changes
that
we
are
receiving?
Are
we
supposed
to
make
decisions
unilaterally?
T
How
do
you
want
us
to
approach
those
situations
and
that
conversation
is
critical
for
us
to
know
as
well
before?
I
conclude:
I
want
to
just
express
my
gratitude
to
to
our
staff
at
fargo
public
schools,
regardless
of
the
decision
that's
made
today,
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
work
for
all
of
our
staff,
but
I
am
continuously
amazed
and
blown
away
by
the
talent,
the
dedication,
dedication
and
caliber
of
all
of
our
administrators,
our
teachers
and
our
support
staff.
T
They
are
going
to
go
and
provide
the
best
education
they
can
with
the
mitigation
strategies
that
the
board
is
comfortable
with,
regardless
of
what
happens
today.
So
I
just
want
to
express
my
gratitude
to
all
of
our
administrators
all
of
our
teachers,
who
are
going
to
be
starting
the
school
year
ready
to
go,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
use
this
opportunity
to
work
together.
So
with
that
being
said,
and
with
my
comments
kind
of
aside,
I'm
going
to
ask
desi
fleming,
who
represents
fargo
cass
public
health.
V
Sure,
thank
you,
dr
gandhi,
and
good
evening.
I
am
desi
fleming
the
director
of
fargo
cast
public
health
and
was
asked
to
speak
tonight
on
the
role
of
the
health
department
and
how
it
interfaces
with
the
school
setting
throughout
this
pandemic.
Fargo
cast
public
health,
along
with
the
north
dakota
department
of
health,
has
served
to
advise
various
agencies
on
mitigation
strategies.
V
V
The
center
for
disease
control
guidance
released
the
end
of
july
included
specific
recommendations
for
k-12
institutions,
with
the
main
objective
of
getting
kids
back
safely
to
in-person
learning.
Given
the
changing
dynamics
of
the
pandemic,
fargo
cast
sent
guidance
to
all
cass
county
schools,
essentially,
echoing
what
the
recommendations
were
from
the
cdc.
V
V
Fargo
cast
public
health
was
approached
by
area
physicians,
with
an
interest
in
advising
local
schools
and
promoting
children's
health.
They
are
here
with
us
tonight
and
will
be
speaking
next,
I'm
very
grateful
to
them
for
their
willingness
to
share
their
expertise
and
volunteer
their
time,
so
I
will
leave
the
floor
to
them.
Thank
you.
U
U
U
U
Several
wonderful
fargo
pediatricians
have
provided
fantastic
leadership,
doctors
grant
steverson,
clifford,
mariello
and
tracy
newman
fargo
listened
to
them
before
and
it
worked,
and
you
should
listen
to
them
now.
This
fall.
Unless
community
leaders
act,
our
children
will
be
at
risk
and
there's
a
real
possibility
that
many
will
become
ill
from
the
delta
variant
get
hospitalized
and
some
may
even
die.
U
Only
one
vaccine
is
currently
available
to
those
12
and
older,
and
only
20
percent
of
our
teenagers
receive
the
covet
immunization
statewide
and
have
complete
coverage.
Overall,
our
state's
immunization
immunization
rates
are
well
below
the
national
average
and
ranks
43rd
among
states.
Puerto
rico
and
district
of
columbia,
cass
county's,
coveted,
complete
immunization
rate,
is
57.7
percent
higher
than
the
state
average,
but
not
enough
to
eliminate
transmission.
U
U
North
dakota
cases
have
gone
up
six-fold
and
house
positions
doubled
in
the
past
month
due
to
a
failure
to
get
enough.
Immunized
and
poor
mask
wearing
last
summer's
surge
led
to
the
catastrophe
in
the
fall
florida
schools
have
just
opened
and
their
children's
hospitals
and
icus
their
pediatric
icus
are
overwhelmed
and
the
same
can
happen
in
fargo
and
the
rest
of
our
state.
U
U
A
Okay
sounds
good
and
dr
grant
severson
and
dr
clifton
moriello
do
either
of
you
choose
to
make
comments
at
this
point.
If
you
do
feel
free
to
go
to
the
podium,
as
your
comments
would
need
to
be,
we
need
to
have
your
comments
made
at
the
microphone.
B
W
Just
to
reiterate
what
dr
mcdonough
said,
the
guidance
provided
by
the
american
academy
of
pediatrics
and
the
centers
for
disease
control
and
prevention
is
centered
around
a
primary
priority
of
keeping
in-person
learning
in
schools
open
and
available
to
all
students,
and
that's
the
number
one
piece
that
we
want
to
communicate
to
here
is
that
the
guidance
is
meant
to
keep
kids
in
schools.
It's
meant
to
keep
kids
schools
available
to
kids
and
it's
meant
to
keep
as
many
kids
in
education
as
possible.
W
W
It's
a
serious
threat
to
our
community.
It's
a
serious
threat
to
our
schools
and
there's
other
ancillary
things
that
go
into
that,
but
for
the,
if
we
had
to
pick
one
thing,
one
per
one
one
theme
to
promote
to
you
here
is
that
masking
is
the
best
way
to
keep
our
schools
open
this
year.
Thank
you
very
much.
X
X
The
pandemic
has
not
only
affected
health,
physical
health,
but
also
mental
health.
People
have
talked
about
mental
health
tonight
you
know
there's
a
mental
health
crisis
among
children
and
teens
because
they
haven't
been
in
school.
We
need
to
have
kids
in
school.
We
need
to
have
kids
interacting
with
each
other.
X
The
aap
recommends
universal
masking
at
school.
This
time.
For
the
following
reasons,
a
significant
portion
of
the
student
population
is
not
eligible
for
vaccination.
Protection
of
unvaccinated
students
from
cover
19
is
reduced.
Transmission,
lack
of
a
system
to
monitor
vaccine
status
among
students,
teachers
and
staff,
potentially
difficulty
in
monitoring
enforcing
mass
policies,
possibility
of
low
vaccination
uptake
within
the
surrounding
school
community
and
then
continue
concerns
about
the
delta
variant.
Y
If
I
may,
I
thank
you
rebecca
I
just
wanted
to
before.
We
begin
our
discussion
tonight
in
the
spirit
of
transparency,
I
just
wanted
to
remind
the
board
that
I
also
serve
our
community
in
the
role
of
health
officer
at
fargo
cass
public
health.
Thus
I
was
a
part
of
the
administrative
team
that
reiterated
these
new
cdc
guidance
both
to
our
community,
as
well
as
the
k-12
schools.
Y
I
work
really
diligently
to
keep
these
roles
separate
and
tonight
I
intend
to
wear
my
elected
official
hat
as
school
board
member
I'm
very
grateful
to
the
medical
and
public
health
experts
who
volunteered
their
time
to
be
here
tonight.
To
answer
questions,
I
just
wanted
to
disclose
that
before
we
begin
our
discussion.
Thank
you.
A
A
D
Y
Z
I
actually
think
it
is
a
conflict
of
interest.
According
to
attorney
general's
position,
state
versus
lee,
you
can
refer
to
it
incompatible
offices,
all
right.
A
So
kind
of
in
preparation
for
and
thinking
that
this
discussion
might
happen
for
us
this
evening
I
have,
I
do
have
gp
11,
which
is
our
policy
regarding
conflict
of
interest.
Anne
marie,
thank
you
for
printing
it
out.
I
know
lots
of
you
are
probably
you
might
be
carrying
this
policy
with
you,
but
in
case
you
don't.
I
wanted
to
provide
it
to
you
and
give
you
the
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
it.
I
also
did
have
a
conversation
again
with
the
legal
counsel
at
the
north
dakota
school
boards
association,
amy
decock.
A
She
has
consulted
us
previously
regarding
issues
such
as
conflict
of
interest.
What
I
would
like
to
do-
and
she
didn't
provide
any
legal
advice
to
us-
she's,
not
our
attorney,
but
provided
us
with
some
me
with
some
guidance
that
I
share
with
the
board
and
really
that
is
to
take
a
look
at
the
policy
that
we
have.
There
are
two
items:
two
items
of
state
statute:
15
15,
107,
17
and
4404.22.
A
Both
of
those
are
in
north
dakota
century
code,
outlining
a
conflict
of
interest
and
really
it's
up
to.
As
amy
mentioned
to
me,
the
individual.
If
the
individual
seems
like
or
thinks
there
could
be
a
conflict
of
interest
or
wants
to
make
sure
that
everyone
understands
the
situation,
it's
up
on
it's
up
to
that
individual
to
disclose
it.
That's
what
that's!
What
tracy
did?
We
all
know
as
board
members
too,
that
she
does
have
this
position
with
fargo
cast
public
health.
A
My
suggestion
would
be
if
the
board
feels
like
we
need
to
address
this,
that
we
address
each
of
these
items
separately,
that
the
first
item
that
we
would
address
would
be
pertaining
to
school
district
contracts
and
then
the
second
item
would
be
a
broader
one
conflict
of
interest
law,
and
it
is
really
then
up
to
us
to
decide
if,
if
there's
a
motion
that
we
would
need
to
do
this
by
motion,
because
it
would
require
a
majority
of
the
board
for
us
to
decide
if
tracy
is
able
to
participate
in
the
dialogue
and
the
voting
this
this
evening.
A
So
that
again
is
up
to
us
to
decide,
and
I
would
recommend
that
we
take
this
piece
by
piece
robin.
D
I
don't
think
that
there's
this
applies
to
school
district
contracts,
because
this
is
not
a
contract,
so
I
think
we
can
cross
the
first
statute
off.
I
think
what
we
need
to
discuss
is
the
conflict
of
interest
law
according
to
dr
newman.
Well,
according
to
the
law,
the
person
who
may
have
a
perceived
conflict
of
interest
needs
to
disclose
that,
and
in
this
case,
that
member
hasn't
so
we're
kind
of
stuck.
A
I
would
say
that
that
member
has
right,
you're
saying
she
hasn't
dr
newman
hasn't
specifically
said.
I
have
a
conflict
of
interest.
She
has
informed
us
that
she
is
with
this
position.
There
is
also
no
additional
financial
interest
that
dr
newman
is
going
to
have
as
a
result
of
the
vote
that
we
or,
if
we
are
voting
tonight
on
this
business
item,
there
is
no
pecuniary
interest.
A
That
doesn't
mean
there
is
one
I
that
is
again,
I
believe
for
us
to
really
decide,
as
it
says
in
at
the
bottom
of
this
gp,
that
that
the
majority
of
the
body
would
need
to
then
decide
if
there
is
that
conflict
of
interest,
dr
newman
has
said,
has
not
disclosed
a
conflict
of
interest
robin.
D
And
I
think
that's
the
trigger
so
take
that
for
what
it's
worth
will
you
please
explain
the
difference
between
serving
on
a
as
a
member
of
fargo
cast
public
health,
because
that
is
part
of
city
charter,
as
opposed
to
serving
as
an
employee
for
broadcast
public
health,
because
I
think
it's
very
important
for
everybody
to
be
aware
that
dr
newman
has
backed
down
from
being
appointed
to
fargo
cast
public
health
because
she
did
feel
that
was
a
conflict
of
interest
with
her
employment.
D
A
She
made
it
clear
that
she
would
not
be
able
to
serve
on
that
board
anymore,
that
that
would
be
a
conflict
of
interest
and
and
has
then,
therefore,
a
new
person
has
been
assigned
to
that
board.
A
AA
I
would
just
point
out
two
things
in
gp11:
one
is
if
a
board
member
has
a
personal
or
private
interest.
I
wouldn't
include
sitting
on
a
board
as
a
personal
or
private
interest,
and
also,
I
don't
think
because
of
her
position,
the
paragraph
the
first
paragraph.
I
don't
believe
that
she
would
be
unable
to
devote
complete
loyalty
to
the
fargo
school
district
because
of
because
of
the
position
that
she
sits
on.
A
I
also
wanted
to
mention,
as
as
robin
said,
the
first
item
deals
with
school
district
contracts.
There's
no
contract,
that's
in
front
of
us
for
us
to
be
considering
first
paragraph
of
the
whole:
oh
okay,
okay,
thank
you!
Thank
you!
Seth
yep!
I
just
I
wanted
to
reiterate
what
robin
had
mentioned.
I
do
believe
that
we
can
remove
from
the
discussion
school
district
contracts.
We
don't
have
a
contract
in
front
of
us
where
we're
considering
giving
business
to
someone
and
there's
going
to
be
a
financial
gain
by
dr
newman.
A
D
Robin
I
want
to
differentiate
between
those
two
statutes:
the
when
you're
dealing
with
a
contract.
The
board
would
have
to
vote
on
whether
to
number
one
participate
in
the
in
the
conversation,
but
also
number
two
vote.
The
second
statute,
the
conflict
of
interest
law,
allows
the
person
to
participate
in
the
conversation,
but
may
not
vote
based
upon
the
boards,
the
majority
of
the
board.
D
So
I'm
not
sure
how
this
works
do
does
what's
what's
the
trigger.
Does
the
person
need
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
and
say
it's
a
conflict
of
interest?
That's
how
I
read
it,
and
so
if
we
were
to
follow
state
law-
and
I
do
feel
I'm
sorry-
I
do
feel
there
is
a
conflict
of
interest.
But
the
only
trigger
is
for
the
person
that
has
the
perceived
conflict
of
interest
to
say
they
do,
and
in
this
case
that's
not
the
case,
and
so
that's
how
I
read
this
law.
A
C
So
I
don't
know
what
the
financial
interest
would
be
that
you
have,
and
personally
I
do
not
believe
you
have
a
conflict
of
interest
in
law
here,
but
if
it
makes
the
board
feel
better,
we
could
certainly
take
a
vote
and
see
if
the
majority
is
willing
to
have
her
participate.
C
Z
So
I,
as
one
board
member,
would
have
appreciated,
knowing
that
this
was
even
an
option
which
again,
I
think,
is
against
our
own
policy.
If
we're
talking
about
governance
policy,
that
should
have
been
a
full-bore
decision
who
was
invited
to
speak,
so
I
feel
a
little
ganged
up
on,
and
I
think
that
is
evidence
in
itself
that
this
is
a
clear
conflict
of
interest.
Z
Y
Thank
you
for
the
question
jim.
I
just
wanted
to
add.
I
mean
I
also
served
to
advise
the
fargo
school
district.
You
know
in
the
kobit
committee
last
year
as
a
physician
at
samford
and
that
never
came
up
that.
I
I
wear
many
hats
in
this
community
and
as
far
as
loyalty
goes,
my
loyalty
is
to
children.
I
serve
children
and
I'm
a
pediatrician
hired
by
stanford.
I
work
for
fargo
cast
public
health
I'll
I'll
work
for
anybody
else.
Y
A
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
hands
or
any
other
board
members
interested
in
sharing
thoughts,
and
I
feel
as
if
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
item
for
discussion.
So
we'll
close
this
part
of
the
conversation
out
all
right.
Where
would
the
board
like
to
take
it
from
here
I'll?
Look
to
my
fellow
board
members
to
help
us
brian
and
then
jim.
S
I
think
everybody,
because
that's
the
dilemma
I
go
on
my
mind
right
now
is,
is
if
we
didn't
follow
this
recommendation
with
all
of
these
different
things
like
on
page
four,
I
believe
it
is.
What
would
we
do
and
that's
where
I'm
at.
A
C
You
know
one
of
the
misnomers
in
the
media
today
is,
I
think
I
saw
in
the
newspaper
that
west
fargo
has
decided
to
not
have
a
mask
mandate.
This
fall,
that's
not
what
they
did
last
night.
They
chose
to
take
no
action
on
the
recommendation
that
that
could
change
at
their
next
board
meeting
or
it
might
not
change.
So
if
we
don't
take
action
tonight,
nothing's
going
to
change
until
it
comes
back
to
a
board
meeting
for
action
again.
A
I
would
also
assume
that
if
we
don't
take
any
action
tonight,
as
jim
said,
we
continue
operating
in
the
way
that
we
are
operating.
I
would
look
to
dr
gandhi,
as
our
superintendent
to
again
bring
to
us
concerns
that
he
has
in
terms
of
the
health
and
the
safety
of
the
district
tied
to
covet
19.
robin
and
then
seth.
D
So
our
two
options
are
very
polarized
and
it's
either
either
masks
or
not,
and
I'm
sorry
that's
just
what
the
discussion
is
and
to
your
point
rupak.
There
are
some
other
pieces
that
we
need
to
talk
about
here
and
I
I
would
submit
that.
Perhaps
we
talk
about
with
our
elementary
students
that
are
not
able
to
be
vaccinated
yet
which
I
am
I
haven't
practiced
at
my
work
at
boys
and
girls
club.
D
We
keep
our
elementary
age,
children
in
cohorts
and
they
do
not
mix
in
large
groups
or
get
on
the
bus
without
a
mask
that
keeps
we've
had
zero
issues
and
I'm
not
saying
that's
right
or
wrong,
and
and
but
that's
worked,
would
that
be
a
compromise
for
elementary
age.
Students
now
keep
in
mind
some
of
our
11
year
olds
are
in
middle
school,
but
again
I
I
don't
think
this
is
a
black
and
white
discussion.
I
appreciate
the
other
mitigation
efforts
that
are
being
taken
place.
A
T
T
Right
now
we
receive
a
set
of
guidances
that
we
follow
from
our
partnering
care
health
care
agencies,
whether
it's
fargo
cass,
public
health
or
north
dakota
department
of
health.
The
current
recommendation
says
that,
along
with
all
the
other
mitigation
strategies,
which
obviously
involves
masks,
is
that
if
there
is
a
mass
to
mass
exposure,
students
don't
need
a
quarantine.
If
there
is
a
unmasked
mass
exposure
student
unvaccinated
students
would
need
to
quarantine
at
that
point.
T
So,
to
your
point,
whether
it's
part
of
the
day
or
are
in
small
groups
or
larger
groups,
are
we
are
you
then
going
to
ask
us
to
say?
Okay,
follow
those
exclusionary
practices,
because
at
that
point
anytime,
that
there's
an
unmass
exposure
and
the
students,
if
those
students
haven't
had
the
ability
to
get
vaccinated,
we
are
going
to
then
have
to
quarantine
everyone.
That's
part
of
that
exposure
that
could
include
a
cafeteria
that
could
include
a
breakfast
setting
where
students
are
eating
and
unmasked
and
then
the
other
piece
of
that
is.
T
Are
we
then,
as
a
school
district
going
to
request
from
parents
vaccine
is
a
vaccination
records
of
students
to
see
whether
or
not
they
need
to
isolate
or
not?
Even
though
that
is
not
an
immunization
requirement,
that's
currently
in
century
code,
so
then
I
could
see
that
being
a
further
conversation
as
well
so
administration.
T
We
need
that
clear
guidance,
because
we
don't
want
to
try
to
follow
a
piece
of
a
mitigation
strategy
and
then
later
do
something
that
the
board
might
say.
Well
that
wasn't
our
intent,
we
don't
want
you
to
go:
ask
parents
if
their
kids
are
vaccinated
or
not,
but
those
are
all
byproducts
of
what
may
happen
if
we
are
looking
at
these
in
piecemealing
a
solution.
A
AA
I
feel
like
maybe
you
did
answer
this
question
already,
but
if,
if
we
take
no
action,
does
that
take
away
your
ability
to
mitigate
this
and
to
keep
our
kids
in
school?
So
basically
we're
just
gonna?
If
we
don't
do
anything,
we're
just
gonna,
kick
the
can
down
the
road
or
do
you
have
or
do
you
I
mean
this
is
a
this
is
a
recommendation,
but
is
there
anything
that
says
that
you
can't
walk
away
from
tonight
being
like
board,
doesn't
know
what
they're
doing
we
need
to
do
this
and
we're
going
to
do
it.
T
If
it
is
the
latter,
I
believe
that
you
should
not
want
a
superintendent
that
ignores
their
partners,
because
I
just
think
that's
a
dangerous
precedent
for
an
organization.
If
you
want
me
to
not
follow
any
mitigation
strategies,
tell
me
not
to
follow
any
mitigation
action
strategies,
either
through
action
or
inaction,
but
make
that
very
clear.
O
AB
AB
B
During
this
summer,
while
the
smart
restart
plan
was
suspended,
we
would
receive
cases
from
fargo
cast
public
health
or
the
north
dakota
department
of
health.
If
a
student
or
staff
member
tested
positive
from
there,
I
would
inform
the
building
principal
that
that
student
had
tested
positive
to
know
that
that
student
wouldn't
be
in
school
and
how
long
they
would
be
out,
but
no
further.
AB
Was
no
contact
tracing?
Did
you
see
an
escalation
in
the
number
of
cases
because
of
that
then,
to
any
degree.
B
Maybe
a
handful
of
cases
this
summer,
so
I
obviously
didn't
see
any
escalation,
but
recently,
in
the
last
couple
weeks
I've
seen
more
cases
coming
in
with
our
students-
maybe
they're
not
in
summer
school.
Maybe
they
are.
I
don't
have
that
information
in
my
hands,
but
I
have
received
cases
from
students
and
staff
members
within
the
last
couple
weeks
at
a
higher
rate
than
I've.
Seen
this
whole
summer.
Z
Thank
you,
I
guess
my
question
or
mostly
to
report
some
of
your
comments
in
terms
of
taking
the
advice.
None
of
the
advice
is
saying
mandates
and
there
are
no
laws
to
mandate,
masks
or
to
quarantine
a
child.
So
actually
I
think
david.
Maybe
you
asked
this
or
brian,
but
what
did
we
do
over
the
summer?
If
someone
had
an
exposure,
we
didn't
do
forced
court
quarantines.
Those
were
our
rules,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
for
everyone
to
understand
that.
It's
not
a
law.
Z
It's
a
recommendation
so,
like
businesses
are
posting
on
the
outside
right
and
then
it's
up
to
you
to
enter
right.
They've
they've
done
their
job
in
educating
you
about
the
risks
and
then
you
decide
to
enter
so
I
mean
there
is
no.
I
don't
know
how
that
would
put
you
in
any
sort
of
position
of
liability,
because
you
have
to
also
think
about
the
health
of
all
of
the
children
and
staff
so
and
to
segregate,
wouldn't
be
in
my
mind,
an.
T
It
is
my
belief
that,
as
a
leader
of
the
organization
in
the
role
that
I
play
regardless
of
my
own
personal
feelings,
I
especially
when
I
interviewed
for
this
job,
I
said
I
will
celebrate
and
recognize
the
partnerships
and
people's
areas
of
expertise
in
this
situation.
We
have
always
done
consistently
made
decisions
throughout
this
pandemic,
with
the
guidance
on
fargo
cast
public
health.
T
I
just
think
it's
a
dangerous
precedent
to
allow
any
district
leader
of
any
organization
to
start
making
autonomous
decisions
of
which
partnering
organizations
strategies
recommendations
they
want
to
take.
There
is
no
mandates.
The
authority
is
solely
with
the
school
district
and,
and
that
is
100
true.
You
are
correct
that
throughout
the
summer
we
did
not
contact
trace.
We
did
not
follow
any
exclusionary
practices,
it
was
none.
T
You
know
we
kept
some
of
the
mitigation
strategies,
such
as
what
we're
doing
with
with
the
hvac
systems
and
other
things
in
place,
but
we
did
not
follow
the
exclusionary
rules
that
are
now
being
recommended.
So
basically
it
came
down
to
if
you're,
showing
symptoms
or
you're
exposed
then
stay
at
home.
If
not,
you
can
come
to
school
times
have
changed.
Guidance
has
changed
what
we
did
over
the
summer
in
the
suspension
of
the
smart
research
plan.
T
At
that
time,
administration
brought
that
recommendation,
because
that
also
came
with
the
support
of
fargo
cast
public
health.
So
at
that
point
I
also
didn't
feel
like
we
were
not
following
our
local
health
care
agencies.
I
feel
like
we've
done,
that
throughout
the
entire
year
in
working
with
them.
So
that's
that's
the
difference
now.
The
agency
on
which
we
rely
for
a
set
of
expertise
to
guide
the
school
district
has
changed
their
guidance.
However,
the
authority
still
stays
with
the
school
district
and
I
don't
question
that
by
any
means.
Y
That's
actually
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say
that
things
did
look
different
this
summer,
because
we
were
following
the
guidance
from
fargo
cast
public
health
and
cdc,
etc,
and
now
it's
changed
due
to
the
risk
of
delta
variant
and
what
we're
seeing
in
pediatric
patients.
So
the
whole
point
of
this
is
trying
to
be
upstream
and
be
preventative
and
guide
schools
in
the
best
and
safest
way
possible.
Y
D
I
I
want
to
mention
to
everybody
I
I
do
feel
this
is
an
operational
decision.
However,
there
are
times
when
it
becomes
and
I
made
the
request.
I
know
dr
gandhi's
taking
some
grief
for
this
and
trying
to
pass
the
buck
onto
the
board,
but
I
feel
it's
important
for
elected
officials
to
make
this
decision
because
the
buck
stops
with
us.
So
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
dr
gandhi
is
not
passing
the
decision-making
ability
on
to
us
and
I,
I
think,
that's
important
to
state.
A
S
Probably
a
question
for
all
of
you:
do:
do
we
need
to
force
this
mandate
onto
the
public,
or
will
the
public
recognize
that
we
have
a
serious
thing
going
on
that
we
see.
S
A
Well,
we
want
our
kids
in
school
right.
We
have
that
in
common
I'm
thinking
of
just
to
go
with
your
question
a
little
bit.
I
guess
my
my
thought
is
looking
back,
you
know
over
the
last
year
and
it
maybe
the
public
would
be
different
this
time.
Maybe
all
of
a
sudden,
more
vaccinations
will
happen,
and
people
will
wear
masks
and
take
care
of
all
the
different
mitigation
strategies
that
they
can
on
their
own.
A
Sometimes
that
doesn't
happen.
I
think
we
saw
over
the
last
year
that
there
needed
to
be
in
order
for
things
to
get
better,
that
there
needed
to
be
some
some
protocols
put
in
place
to
say
this
is
what
we
need
to
do.
If
we
listen
to
the
the
doctor
that
that
spoke
on
the
phone
mcdonough,
I
think
it
was
earlier
today.
A
AB
Brian,
I
really
thank
you
for
those
comments.
I
think
they
were
right
on
point.
I
listened
to
every
one
of
you
who
spoke
tonight
and
I
listened
very
carefully
and-
and
there
wasn't
a
one
of
you
who
didn't
have
valid
points
all
summer
long,
I've
seen
many
of
you
wearing
your
masks,
along
with
your
kids,
and
I
absolutely
support
that
100.
AB
But
I
also
feel
that
those
of
you
who
don't
feel
masked
are
necessary,
or
even
legal
by
the
perspective
of
them
being
a
a
medical
instrument
that
we're
forcing
your
child
to
wear.
I
think
you
should
have
the
ability
not
to
have
your
child
masked
up
too
and-
and
I
have
to
to
share
what
the
feelings
jennifer
had.
AB
I
I
listened
and
I
thought
we
were
going
to
have
a
very,
very
good
discussion
here,
but
I
felt
very
ganged
up
on
as
she
did
by
the
fact
that
that
the
medical
experts
who
were
called
in
were
none
of
us
were
aware
that
they
were
going
to
be
here.
There
was
nobody
from
the
opposite
side,
and
you
can
pick
your
doctors
and,
and
someone
else
can
pick
your
doctors
and
let
them
fight
it
out,
because
I
guarantee
you.
If
there's.
AB
If
there
is
an
incident,
you
will
find
people
as
strongly
on
it
each
side
as
you're
going
to
find
with
the
democratic
and
the
republi
republican
party.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
fight
on
your
hands
and
it's
just
whoever
you
decide
to
listen
to.
I
just
feel
that
we
should
be
giving
the
the
parents
the
ability
to
make
these
decisions
for
decisions
for
their
children,
and
I
think,
as
brian
said,
we've
got
smart
people
if
they
realize
that
masking
is
important
and
it's
helping
they're
going
to
start
masking
as
well.
AA
I
appreciate
your
comments
david.
I
would
say
that
I'm
not
seeing
anything
in
this
recommendation
that
says
anything
about
a
mask.
It
doesn't
say
anything
about
a
mandate.
It
doesn't
say
anything
about
a
requirement.
It
talks
about
implementing
mitigation
strategies
from
fargo
cast
public
health.
Those
mitigation
strategies
could
change
in
two
weeks.
They
could
change
in
a
month.
They
could
lessen
just
the
same
way.
AA
It
did
this
summer
when
we
decided
to
to
suspend
the
plan,
I'm
not
comfortable,
restricting
and
taking
tools
away
from
the
person
that
we
have
entrusted
to
run
our
school
system
in
order
to
deal
with
the
pandemic
with
these
kids
and
keep
them
in
school.
I
don't
want
to
take
tools
out
of
the
toolbox.
T
Just
a
couple
things
I
think
brian
thank
you
for
your
question
about
what
would
happen
if,
because
I
think
we
have
seen
partnering
districts
or
local
districts
say
we're
going
to
recommend
or
encourage
our
students
to
wear
a
mask,
but
we're
not
going
to
mandate
it.
I
think
instead
of
asking
us
those
questions,
I
think
that
question
should
come
from
fargo
cats,
and
we
are
fortunate
to
have
that
representative
here
today
say:
why
did
they
make
the
conscious
decision
to
say
cass,
county
superintendents?
T
We
are
requesting
that
you
adhere
to
the
cdc
guidance
of
universal
masking
versus
cass
county
superintendents.
We
strongly
ask
that
you
promote
masking,
and
you
encourage
your
students.
I
think
they
made
that
conscious
decision
based
on
the
information
that's
available
to
them,
so
we
could
do
that.
I
will
also
take
ownership
for
some
of
the
individuals
are
here
today.
T
The
individuals
that
are
here
today
is
because
we
received
guidance
from
farco
cast
public
health,
who
is
our
partnering
agency?
They
decided
to
provide
that
guidance
to
us
and
to
speak
further
to
that
guidance.
That
guidance
echoes,
what's
said
by
the
cdc
and
the
american
association
of
pediatrics,
so
I'm
grateful
that
they
decided
to
bring
experts
in
our
community
to
further
that
case.
It
wasn't
a
decision
said,
let's
stack
the
deck
one
way
or
the
other,
because,
unfortunately,
what
I'm
trying
to
do
here
is
not
make
a
polit
political
decision
about
masks.
T
I
also
want
us
to
take
us
back
to
the
overall
totality
of
what
we're
talking
about.
It's
not
just
mass,
although
mass
has
become
the
controversial
mitigation
strategy.
Mass
are
tied
to
the
exclusionary
practices
for
isolation
and
quarantine
that
we
would
have
to
recommend
for
students
if
this
board
decides
not
to
mask.
T
Are
you
also
asking
administration
to
then
just
say,
regardless
of
whether
the
type
of
exposure
is
mass
or
unmasked,
students
can
be
at
school
and
if
so,
then
let
us
know
because
then
you're
removing
another
layer
of
that
mitigation
strategy
that
they
suggested
and
if
that's
what
you
want
to
do.
That's
okay,
but
it
is
my
job
to
advise
you
that
the
liability
then
shifts
to
the
school
board,
because
you're
removing
layers
and
mitigation
strategies
have
been
proposed
and
if
you
don't
believe
in
that,
that's
absolutely
fine
and
that's
your.
T
V
Sure,
I
think
you
know
most
of
it.
It's
been
mentioned
tonight.
It's
been
the
changes
in
the
pandemic
that
we've
seen
it's
been
the
delta
variant
and
how
that
is,
you
know
taking
a
stronger
hold
and
you
know
the
delta
variant
in
north
dakota
in
the
past.
You
know
past
weeks
has
increased
364
percent,
so
we
know
that
it's
in
our
state.
We
know
that
it
impacts
kids.
V
We
know
that
it
impacts
kids
under
12
that
can't
be
vaccinated,
so
the
recommendation
for
the
masking,
because
our
immunization
rates
are
not
where
we
need
them
to
be,
they
need
to
be
significantly
higher
with
the
delta
variant
that
masking
in
the
meantime,
will
help.
You
know
protect,
add
another
layer
of
protection
until
we
can
get
those
vaccination
rates
up
along
with
all
the
other
mitigation
strategies,
so
that
was
the
the
reasoning
behind
it.
What
what
infectious
disease
experts
that
we've
talked
to
through
cdc
and
all
of
their
recommendations?
V
U
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
echo
that
I
mean,
if
you
want
to,
if
you
don't
have
a
math
mandate,
you
don't
require
kids
having
maths
in
schools,
just
look
what's
going
down
in
florida
and
texas
and
louisiana
and
that's
heading
our
way.
So
if
you
want
your
kids
in
the
hospital,
you
want
your
kids
on
icu
and
ventilators,
then
don't
take
the
advice.
U
You
can
implement
mass
and
prevent
this
problem
from
happening
or
you
can
react
to
it
once
it's
there
and
you
have
a
lot
of
people
in
the
hospital
and
then
maybe
people
will
rise
up
and
say.
Well,
maybe
we
should
have
done
it
sooner.
You
have
an
opportunity
here
to
prevent
the
problem
from
coming,
but
it's
coming.
The
delta
virus
is
here,
there's
lots
of
cases
in
fargo
and
it'll.
Be
your
kids
are
going
to
be
in
school
here
shortly
and
if
they
aren't
messed
up
they're
going
to
get
sick.
A
A
A
A
C
Thank
you
rebecca
just
a
couple
comments
and
then
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
anecdotally.
I
really
much
like
david
appreciated
all
the
comments
today
from
everybody
that
shared
their
thoughts.
C
Clearly,
the
community
is
split
on
this
issue,
judging
by
the
emails
that
I'm
sure
you've
all
been
reading-
and
I
sense
the
board
is
split
on
this
issue
too.
Just
based
upon
the
limited
discussion
we've
had
you
know.
I
was
fascinated
by
one
of
the
speakers
who
shared
some
data
regarding
the
efficacy
of
mass
from
the
cdc
and
stanford
university,
and
obviously
the
cdc
still
believes
we
should
be
wearing
masks,
even
though
they
had
a
study
that
questioned
how
how
effective
they
are
in
stanford
anecdotally,
just
required
august
2nd.
C
All
students,
staff
and
visitors
to
campus
are
masked
anytime
they're
indoors.
So
clearly
as
a
nation,
we
think
masking
helps
and
we
think
maybe
it
still
isn't
going
to
be
perfect.
Some
people
are
going
to
get
sick.
I
think
the
very
important
question
regarding
the
requests
that
we
got
from
our
superintendent.
To
start
this
discussion,
maybe
more
so
than
masks,
are
what
are
we
going
to
do
when
we
have
a
positive
student
covid
case?
C
C
It
would
have
been
great
if
we
as
a
society
would
have
stepped
to
the
plate
and
we
could
have
got
the
80
percent
vaccination
rates
out
of
the
chute
and
answer
your
question
brian,
since
we
haven't
gotten
there,
yet
I'm
not
sure
when
we're
going
to.
We
have
a
fair
number
of
people
in
the
community
that
don't
believe
in
the
vaccine,
for
whatever
reasons
and
that's
their
right.
C
D
C
C
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
at
least
get
this
motion
on
the
table.
So
as
we're
discussing,
we
have
a
motion
we're
discussing
I'm
going
to
move
the
board
of
education,
approve
implementing
mitigation
strategies
recommended
by
fargo
cass
public
health
for
the
2021-2022
school
year,
and
I
want
to
note
I
went
back
and
read
these
carefully.
C
S
A
AB
Okay,
now
I'm,
if
what
jim
says
is
true-
and
it
says
in
there
that
they
are
recommended,
then
are
we
as
a
board
making
a
motion
as
well
that
everyone
will
be
masked
or
will
masking
be
at
the
discretion
of
the
individual?
I
don't
understand.
You
talked.
We've
talked
about
making
sure
that
that
dr
gandhi
has
clear
a
clear
direction.
If
we're
just
approving
a
recommendation
from
the
cass
county
public
health
that
is
recommending
masks.
Is
that
how
we're
going
to
release
it?
AB
D
C
Well,
according
to
the
recommendation
that
I'm
reading
it
says
universal
indoor
masking
for
all
teachers,
staff,
students
and
visitors
to
buildings,
regardless
of
vaccination
status
or
community
transmission
rates,
so
I
think
that's
their
recommendation
to
us.
But
again,
I
want
to
go
back
to
what
I
said
before.
I
actually
made
the
motion:
what
are
we
going
to
do
when
we
have
a
student
who
tests
positive
in
terms
of
close
contact
and
quarantine,
because
the
answer
to
that
question
probably
answers
whether
or
not
we
want
to
require
masks
or
not.
C
If
we
are
going
to
allow
those
students
that
were
exposed
to
stay
in
school
and
then
see
how
many
more
people
get
sick,
maybe
none,
maybe
the
entire
building,
that's
the
direction
we
have
to
give
dr
gandhi.
If,
instead,
we
tell
him
that
we
want
to
implement
that
part
of
their
recommendation
that
students
that
were
in
close
contact
to
a
positive,
covid,
19
student
staff,
member
or
visitor
that
were
in
an
unmasked
situation,
will
be
quarantined.
C
If
that's
a
recommendation
that
we
want
to
implement-
and
I
personally
think
that's
how
we're
going
to
keep
the
majority
of
our
kids
in
school,
then
at
least
we'll
know
that,
if
we're
not
going
to
require
masks
as
soon
as
there's
a
positive
case,
we're
going
to
go
through
the
protocol
of
isolating
and
having
those
students
stay
home
until
such
time
as
they've
been
tested
and
come
out
with
a
negative
result.
A
D
You
for
that
clarification,
I
I
think
we
have
a
couple
neighbors
to
look
at
moorhead
has
is
not
requiring
mass,
but
they
are
contact
tracing
west
fire.
At
this
point-
and
I
think
everybody
needs
to
remember
this
is
a
fluid
situation.
It's
really
hard
to
make
promises
for
the
whole
school
year
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
ready
to
do
that,
because
things
are
evolving
but
west
fargo
is
not
requiring
mass,
nor
are
they
contact
tracing.
D
Our
kids
have
sacrificed
from
the
beginning
of
this
and
to
to
the
credit
of
one
of
the
speakers
for
our
elders
that
were
so
affected
by
this,
and
you
know
how
our
elders
rep
returned,
that
favor
they
got
vaccinated
and
there
are
stats
anywhere.
I've
seen
75
percent
and
I've
seen
90
percent
and
they
they
are
doing
that,
and
I
really
hope
our
community
comes
forward
to
help
keep
keep
our
kids
in
school
and
that
was
at
the
bottom
of
one
of
these
kids
keeping
kids
safe.
D
Our
community
needs
to
help
our
kids,
so
I
ask
our
communities
help
and
I
know
minds
are
made
up
and
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
change
anybody's
minds
here
tonight.
I
think
people's
minds
are
made
up
whether
they
want
to
wear
masks
whether
they
want
to
get
vaccinated,
but
to
jim's
point.
I
think
we
need
to
have
an
end
goal
in
mind
here.
A
V
So
it's
not
just
the
schools
that
we're
sending
that
message
to
you
know
the
challenge
is
going
to
be
getting
people
to
respond
to
this
and
to
take
it
seriously
so
and
the
other
thing
in
the
school
setting
is
you
have
children
who
are
very
influenced
by
their
peers,
and
so
someone
who
may
want
to
wear
a
mask
may
not
wear
a
mouth
because
of
you
know
they
feel
that
social
pressure
or
something
one
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
do.
V
You
know
we've
been
at
this
for
almost
two
years
we've
been
at
you
know,
last
november,
when
we
were
at
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
and
we
had
to
do
a
lot
of
catch
up.
What
we're
trying
to
encourage
the
public
to
do
is
to
take
a
preventative
approach,
so
we
don't
end
up
back
where
we
were
before,
and
many
of
you
are
absolutely
right.
We
don't
know
where
this
is
going.
V
We
don't
know
that
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
follow
the
best
expert
advice
that
we
can
and
you
know
the
cdc
may
change
our
county
designation
and
that
may
change
our
recommendations,
but
for
right
now
you
know
the
public
is
not
responding
very
well
to
the
call
for
masking,
and
so
I
think
you
need
to
kind
of
consider
that
in
your
decision
as
well
and
then
again,
what
do
you
do?
V
If,
if
you
have
you
know,
there's
been
schools
in
the
south
that
have
opened
up
and
shut
down
the
whole
school
within
two
weeks
because
of
you
know,
super
spreader
cases.
There
are
those
instances,
so
you
just
have
to
be
prepared
to
know
that
if
you're
gonna
go
the
recommendation
route
and
not
really,
you
know
push
vaccinations
or
masking,
then
that
may
present.
You
know
other
problems
down
the
road
where
we're
in
it
a
little
bit
deeper
than
we
want
to
be.
A
I
do
agree
that
most
of
us
likely
have
our
decisions
made
up
board
members
as
well
as
individuals
in
the
community.
Sometimes
it
takes
a
tragic
or
a
tragedy
to
occur,
and
then
a
person
you
know
changes
course
that
happens
to
us
with
lots
of
things
in
our
lives.
I
do
want
to
thank
everyone
that
came
here
tonight
to
speak
and
everyone
that
has
emailed
us
over
an
extended
period
of
time
all
the
way.
A
Since
you
know
last
march,
really
community
members
that
have
been
involved-
and
I
was
looking
at
email
messages
that
have
come
into
my
email
box
from
about
june,
and
I
just
decided
that
I
would
put
them
try
to
categorize
them
in
terms
of
getting
a
sense
of
how
people
feel
and
for
a
while.
I
was
thinking
it
was
about
half
and
half.
In
fact,
I
think
the
forum
reported
that
I
said
that
feedback
is
probably
about
50
50.
and
when
I
I
don't
have
everything
in
there,
because
this
was
at
3
51
today.
A
T
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
something
kind
of
robin
talked
about
because
our
partnering
districts-
and
I
think
I
said
this
when
we
introduced
this
memo
as
well-
I'm
trying
to
protect
a
process
and
again
I
shouldn't
say
I'm
trying
to
protect.
I
I
believe
it
is
the
responsibility
of
the
superintendent
to
protect
the
process
that
we've
had
in
place
and,
if
not,
how
do
where
does
that
decision-making
go?
T
T
The
second
piece
to
that
is,
if
you
look
at
morehead's
plan,
there
is
a
component
of
exclusionary
practices
that
are
based
on
whether
or
not
students
are
vaccinated,
meaning
if
they
execute
that
plan.
As
it's
written
and
what's
been
approved,
they
are
also
going
to
have
to
seek
vaccine
whether
or
not
students
have
been
vaccinated.
T
We
would
need
to
know
that,
are
you
allowing
district
to
follow
the
other
exclusionary
practices,
if
fargo
cath
says
well,
if
you're
not
going
to
do
mass,
you
should
find
out
if
your
students
are
vaccinated
or
not,
and
then
do
you
want
us
to
require
that
from
our
students
and
our
families,
or
do
we
want
us
to
go
on
an
honor
system?
There's
a
lot
of
implications
to
the
decisions
that
have
been
made
and
then
how
do
we
make
decisions
moving
forward
if
we're
not
follow?
T
If
we
don't
have
a
guiding
entity
and
then
does
that
just
come
back
to
the
board
every
two
weeks
for
different
mitigation
strategies
and
how
are
we
making
those
decisions
right?
I
think
so.
I
think
those
are
just
components
to
consider.
The
second
piece
is,
I
think
we
really
need
to
be
careful
on
the
semantics
here.
T
The
authority
to
make
this
decision
sits
with
the
school
school
district,
whether
it's
a
school
board
or
administration
that
that
falls
on
on
this
board
to
decide
as
well
so
fargo
cass
has
said
we're
recommending
that
you
implement
a
universal
masking
strategy,
regardless
of
transmission
rates
and
what's
happening
in
the
community
for
all
indoor
spaces.
To
me
that
is
interpreted
as
you
require
mass
in
all
of
your
indoor
spaces
of
students
and
staff.
T
I
do
not
read
that
as
we
recommend
that
you
recommend
masks,
I
think
if
they
wanted
us
to
recommend
mass,
they
would
have
said
that
and
maybe,
if
I'm
wrong,
I
would
look.
I
would
say
for
that
clarification,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
the
directive
is
to
follow
their
guidance,
we're
very
clear
on
what
their
guidance
is.
V
Yeah
he
would,
he
would
be
correct
so
when
we
make
recommendations,
we're
expecting
then
that
the
school
will
do
what
we
say.
Otherwise,
you
guys
wouldn't
have
anything
to
to
do,
because
we
would
just
tell
people
that
they
can
choose
to
do
what
they
want
to
do.
So
the
expectation
is,
when
you
put
a
mask
a
strategy
into
place
that
everyone
who
can
follow.
It
is
following
it.
A
S
T
A
However,
I
don't
know
how
often
we,
what
would
be
the
determining
factor
for
us
to
be
coming
back
to
be
meeting
as
a
board
over
and
over
again
to
then
be
giving
administration
new
direction
which
going
back
to
us
being
elected
officials
and
certainly
being
responsible
for
the
decisions
overall
that
the
district
makes.
T
So
I'm
not
sure
what
would
be
the
trigger
or
the
threshold
for
them
to
change
their
guidance.
But
as
long
as
that
is
yes,
you
are
approving
a
motion
that
would
say
that
we're
going
to
continue
working
with
our
partnering
health
care
agency
on
this
public
health
mitigation
strategies
that
we
need
to
use
and
if
they
say
hey
conditions,
have
changed.
We
no
longer
think
that
you
need
to
vaccinate
or
mask
all
individuals
and
we
would
change
accordingly.
A
AC
I've
got
some
questions
that
I
would
like
to
ask
those
that
have
joined
us
this
evening,
because
they've
been
asked
of
me
of
parents,
and
so
I
guess
that
would
be
okay,
I'm
not
quite
sure
who
to
ask
or
how
to
approach
it
or
who
wants
to
answer
it.
But
I
think
we
need
medical
professionals
who
do
this
for
a
living
to
answer
these
things.
Nikki.
A
AC
AC
AC
A
W
Desi
this
is
dr
marielle.
I'm
going
to
try
to
answer
the
question
and,
if
you'd
like
to
clarify
anything
that'd,
be
fine
as
well.
Is
that
okay,
so
in
total
of
our
cumulative
positives,
17.79
of
our
cumulative
positives
in
north
dakota
have
been
persons
less
than
19
years
of
age.
W
So
17.79
of
our
total
north
dakota
cases
from
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
to
date
have
been
kids
who
have
been
zero
to
18
years
of
age
in
terms
of
our
active
positives
right
now,
18.66
of
those
persons
are
kids
aged
zero
to
18.,
and
yesterday
the
total
percentage
of
our
daily
reported
cases
yesterday
were
kids.
0-18
kids
can
get
this
illness.
W
They
are
more,
they
are
very
capable
of
spreading
it
to
others,
and
they
can
become
sick
with
it
and
with
this
delta
variant,
particularly
since
it's
more
prone
to
making
everybody
sicker
kids
can
be
much
sicker
with
it
too.
I
work
at
a
children's
hospital.
I
have
taken
care
of
lots
of
sick
kids
with
covet.
AC
V
W
Right
and
also
I
looked
at
our
cass
county
numbers,
it
looks
like
last
year
we
had
quite
a
few
kiddos
in
our
cass
county
school
systems
in
this
in
k,
through
5
and
6
or
8,
who
had
covet
in
our
school
systems.
Quite
a
few
okay.
AC
Thank
you
for
that.
If
I
may
continue
sure
so,
a
question
comes
around
the
delta
variant,
the
test
that
we
have
now,
because
there
was
some
discussion
this
summer
around
the
cdc
and
are
the
tests
effective?
AC
W
W
The
current
coronavirus
tests
that
we
use
the
molecular
assays
do
detect
a
delta
variant,
but
we
can't
tell
in
our
like,
for
example,
in
a
in
a
standard
hospital
laboratory.
We
can't
say
that
this
coronavirus
is
a
delta
or
a
different
kind
of
strain.
We,
the
the
those
those
those
nuances,
are
picked
up
by
sequencing.
W
That's
done
on
samples
that
are
submitted
to
public
health
and
and
desi
knows
more
about
how
those
those
specimens
are
selected
and
chosen
for
sequencing
than
I
do,
but
that's
and
then
there's
partnerships
between
all
the
public
health
departments
and
cdc
and
goes
into
which
those
are
sequenced
and
then
figuring
out,
which
ones
become
variants
of
interest
or
variance
of
concern,
and
so
things
like
that
so
delta,
so
delta's
special,
the
very
first,
the
the
the
the
first
coronavirus
star
square
version
is
it's
detonated
I
believe
coronavirus,
alpha.
W
AC
V
AC
Can
these
tests
differentiate
between
flu
and
covid?
The
comment
that's
been
made
to
me
is:
well,
the
flu
went
away.
So
how
do
we
know
it's
not
coveted
or
the
flu
or
a
cold,
or
how
do
we
know
it's
not
something
else.
W
So
we
have
different
tests
for
influenza
and
other
respiratory
viruses
and
and
our
those
tests
are
relatively
specific,
meaning
that
if
a
test
is
positive,
we
know
that
that
is
that
organism
and
not
a
different
one.
Okay,
so
in
a
lot
of
hospitals
and
a
lot
of
clinics,
we
have
the
ability
to
test
very
rapidly
for
influenza
virus
which
we're
all
very
familiar
with
from
before
the
pandemic.
W
AC
Okay
and
I've
just
got
two
more
unless
something
comes
up,
a
question
was
put
to
me:
well,
it's
just
mutating
because
people
are
getting
vaccinated,
so
people
that
are
getting
vaccinated,
it's
just
changing.
So
it's
the
vaccinated
people's
fault
that
we
have
this.
W
Selection,
so
the
question
is:
is
there
selection
pressure
against
the
virus
because
of
vaccinated
persons,
so
the
virus
is
more
than
capable
of
making
its
own
mutations
without
that
kind
of
pressure,
so
we
have.
We
have
other.
So
this
could.
This
could
potentially
have
happened
on
its
own
even
without
vaccination,
and
we
have
lots
of
persons
right
now
who
are
not
vaccinated,
and
so
I
would
find
that
I
would
find
that
assertion
to
be
very
difficult
to
prove.
AC
Okay
and
then
finally,
it's
kind
of
the
mack
daddy
of
them
all
sure
how
effective
are
masks
are
we
wearing
the
right
masks?
Are
the
masks
that
we're
using
not
effective?
Well,
you
know.
So,
while
I
was
reading
an
article,
it
was
shared
with
me
on
kn,
95,
mass
and
n95
masks
and
that
no
longer
will
the
homemade
masks
work
against
this
delta
variant
and
different
things
of
the
like.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
looking
for
something
to
share
with
those
that
have
asked
as
how
effective
masks
truly
are.
W
So
we
know
from
experience
in
north
dakota
that
our
case
loads
began
to
get
better
right
about
the
time
that
we
got
a
statewide
mass
mandate
from
from
governor
burgum,
and
so
we
peaked
in
our
case
loads
around
beginning
to
mid-november,
and
that's
a
that's
the
time
that
dr
sorry,
that
governor
bergen
issued
the
mass
mandate
and
our
caseloads
began
to
get
better
very
dramatically
very
quickly.
W
I
think
what
we've
noticed
is
is
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
we
think
that
schools
have
been
relatively
spared
from
a
lot
of
coveted
outbreaks,
is
because
in
the
united
states
and
in
a
lot
of
other
countries,
where
we've
been
able
to
have
a
layered
approach
to
a
covert
mitigation
strategies
which
have
include
strict
masking,
we've
noticed
that
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
coveted
outbreaks
which
have
had
forced
many
many
many
schools
to
close
and
had
many
many
cases
of
covet.
W
So
we
think
that
masking
works
really
well.
What
the
mask
needs
to
be
able
to
do
right
now
is:
it
needs
to
be
one
that
covers
the
the
nose
and
the
and
the
and
the
mouth,
and
before
fitting
above
the
nose
and
below
the
chin
and
95
masks
aren't
for,
for
our,
for
our
purposes
are
necessarily
aren't
necessary
in
our
situation.
W
Right
now,
for
in
large,
masking
and
n95s
are
more
appropriate
for
the
hospital
where
we're
going
to
be
around
persons
who
may
have
higher
viral
loads
that
are
going
to
be
in
more
generalized
aerosolized
places.
So
so
n95s
are
are
important
for
hospital
care,
certainly,
but
they
they
may
not
necessarily
be
as
important
in
the
community.
Okay.
T
And
I
just
want
to
verify
one
thing
with
desi:
that's
on
the
line
as
well.
In
working
last
year
with
fargo
cast
public
health.
T
There
might
be
some
things
where
fargo
cast
public
health
provides
general
guidance
to
the
district,
such
as
in
this
situation,
but
when
it
becomes
to
more
specific
operational
questions
that
we
have,
they
might
defer
to
the
field
epidemiologist
or
someone
from
north
dakota
department
of
health.
So
this
recommendation
would
mean
that
we
would
take
the
guidance
from
fargo
cast
public
health.
But
if
they
defer
us
to
another
agency,
then
we
would
follow
their
guidance
as
well.
AA
E
C
C
D
AB
A
A
A
AA
E
A
AC
D
Robin
no,
I
will
share
this
at
the
committee
level
when
gac
meets
next
all
right,
jim.
A
You're
saving
that
until
the
end,
okay,
david
jennifer,
seth.
AA
I
have
nothing
really
to
report
other
than
I
just.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
forth
this
since
they,
since
they
performed
here,
I'm
a
musician
myself.
I
saw
safe
space
perform
at
the
farmer's
market
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
talked
to
one
of
the
dads
I
believe
the
drummer's
dad
and
they
were
getting
ready
to
go
on
a
rehearsal
tour
for
applying
to
college's
music
programs
right
after
that,
and
they
were
all
pretty
excited
about
it
and
yeah.
They
were
really
good
and
just
wanted
to
share
that.
A
A
C
Yeah,
the
picnics
tomorrow
there's
still
time
to
bring
more
door
prizes,
just
bring
them
right
over
to
south
high
those
that
are
helping
with
the
cooking.
I
think
we
need
to
plan
to
be
there
about
9
30
10
at
the
latest,
the
rest
that
are
coming
to
hopefully
greet
and
meet
people.
C
E
30.
yeah,
the
picnic
starts
at
11.
30.
people
start
arriving
about
11,
but
we
probably
won't
be
ready
to
serve
until
11
30
if
board
members
who
are
coming
early
to
do.
Some
of
those
tasks
want
to
arrive
around
9
45-ish
cindy,
and
I
will
be
getting
there
just
about
9
30
and
we'll
get
those
grills
going.
I
told
jim
beforehand
nutrition
services
and
has
indicated
that
a
four
ounce
chicken
breast
is
hard
to
come
by.
E
So
the
chicken
breasts
will
be
six
ounces
this
year,
so
it'll
be
a
little
bit
more
grilling
time
for
those
chicken
breasts,
so
that
process
will
take
a
little
bit
longer
just
so
our
grillers
know
that
might
factor
into
the
process
we
have
to
do
tomorrow.
Oh.