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From YouTube: Panel // Web3 Road to Broader Adoption
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Join us as we chat with a panel of experts in the Web3 ecosystem! They'll discuss how to think about user adoption and expanding the market for Web3 products!
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A
Hey
everyone
welcome
if
you're,
just
joining
we're
gonna
do
a
little
icebreaker
in
the
chat
so
feel
free
to
just
drop
in
maybe
where
you're
joining
us
from
and
what
you're
drinking.
If
you
happen
to
be
drinking
an
interesting
beverage
at
this
time
and
we'll
get
started
in
a
couple
minutes.
A
Awesome,
I
see
we're
a
few
minutes
in
here,
so
I
think
we
will
go
ahead
and
get
started,
but
yes,
let's
keep
the
locations
that
you're
joining
us
from
and
also
the
yummy
beverages
going
in.
The
chat
thanks
zach
for
kicking
us
off
awesome.
So
I
wanted
to
start
by
saying
hello
and
welcome
to
this
panel.
We're
super
excited
to
be
hosting
this
conversation
today
on
the
road
to
broader
adoption
for
web3
projects.
A
My
name
is
puja
and
I
work
on
the
filecoin
project
and
our
panelists
today
are
very
knowledgeable
on
this
subject
and
have
been
working
for
a
long
time
to
help
a
wide
variety
of
products,
projects
and
companies
achieve
success
in
a
number
of
different
industries
and,
most
recently
also
in
web
3..
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
really
awesome
and
very
interesting
and
educational
conversation
for
for
all
of
us.
A
A
Shikai
is
chief
operating
officer
at
longhash
ventures,
where
he's
responsible
for
the
operational
excellence
and
management
of
the
company's
blockchain
acceleration
and
investment
outreach,
hey
welcome,
and
thanks
for
joining
a
little
bit
more
here.
She
spearheads
the
development
and
rollout
of
long
hash
hatch
program
and
has
raised
over
20
million
dollars
in
funding
to
date.
A
So
awesome,
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
great,
and
then
we
also
have
gabriel,
who
is
the
managing
director
of
tachyon,
the
premier
accelerator
for
early
stage,
web
3
startups
he's
a
serial
entrepreneur
with
specialties
in
early
stage,
growth,
customer
acquisition
and
business
development
he's
built
and
advised
numerous
companies
that
have
gone
on
to
successfully
raise
and
or
exit
in
both
web
2
and
web
3
and
also
is
an
is
a
taco
lover.
A
So
it's
great
also
love
tacos,
awesome
and
then
lastly,
colin
everyone
is
the
ecosystem
lead
for
the
filecoin
project.
He's
helped
grow
our
large
community
of
miners,
clients,
collaborators
and
projects
that
are
contributing
to
the
file
queen
ecosystem
he's
been
with
protocol
labs
for
over
three
years
in
a
variety
of
ecosystem
and
operational
roles.
Previously
colin
was
also
the
founder
and
ceo
of
yard
club,
which
is
a
marketplace
for
underutilized.
A
Industrial
assets
and
colin
began
his
career
as
a
consultant
at
mckinsey
as
well,
and
an
associate
at
bain
and
capital,
and
has
received
an
mba
from
the
stanford
gsb
and
a
va
from
the
richard
ivey
school
of
business.
So
amazing,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
now
that
you're
all
here
we'd
love
to
get
your
videos
on.
So
everyone
can
see
your
faces
awesome
great,
so
I
figured
we
could.
Maybe
just
you
know,
jump
in.
There
are
a
number
of
really
interesting
like
questions
and
topics
around
the
space
of
adoption.
A
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
huge
category,
but
I
wanted
to
start
maybe
with
just
getting
your
take
on
just
the
place
that
web
3
is
in
right
now.
You
know,
I
think
this
whole
industry
is
is
in
a
really
interesting
place,
we're
continuing
to
see
an
explosion
of
new
projects
at
all
layers
of
the
web3
stack,
that's
layer,
one
blockchains,
all
sorts
of
layer,
two
projects,
user
phase
facing
applications,
devtools
and
more-
and
I
think
more
recently,
we've
probably
seen
more
of
a
focus
on
kind
of
these
user
facing
applications.
A
I'd
also
include
some
of
like
the
really
successful
recent
d5
projects
in
that
category.
Potentially
so
I
was
thinking
it
would
be
great
to
just
maybe
start
with
a
round
robin
I'm
curious
from
each
of
you.
How
would
you
characterize
this
period
in
the
life
cycle
of
web3
as
an
industry,
and
maybe
gabriel,
we
can
start
with
you.
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
I've
I've,
probably
I
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
develop
kind
of
a
unique
in
insider
instinct
around
this.
You
know
we're
currently,
as
you
know,
working
with
a
group
of
13
founders
who
are
building
around
the
ipfs
file
coin
stack
early
stage
companies.
Our
previous
cohort
was
all
around
open,
finance
and
defy-
and
you
know,
certainly
you
know,
I
think,
we're
starting
to
see
kind
of
like
the
the
foundation
of
of
web
3
being
built
around
kind
of
this
decentralized
finance
movement.
B
It's
certainly
been
exciting
to
see
that
kind
of
skyriding
skyrocket
and
take
off,
especially
for
somebody
who
spent
years
of
a
misfit
youth
in
traditional
finance.
I
think
it's
really
interesting
to
see
that,
because
finance
is
kind
of
like
this,
this
bedrock
that
touches
every
other
industry
right.
The
movement
of
money
allows
all
kinds
of
and
enables
all
kinds
of
new
industries,
commerce
et
cetera,
but
now
it
feels
like
a
lot
of
those
foundational
pieces
have
been
started
that
have
been
built,
and
now
it's
really
exciting.
B
To
start
to
see
some
of
the
early
use
cases
of
you
know
what
I
would
call
these
web
2
to
web
3
bridges
right,
so
companies
that
are
not
pure
crypto,
not
pure
web3,
but
they're
kind
of
a
bridge
from
the
web
2
ecosystems
into
the
welter
ecosystems,
and
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
interesting
places
where
we're
seeing
where
we're
seeing
companies
build
around.
B
You
know
touching
real
consumers
and
real
customers
so
we're
it's
happening,
we're
not
quite
there
yet
as
far
as
like
true
product
market
fit,
I
think
for
the
web
3
ecosystem,
but
but
yeah.
This
is
the
first
time
that
I've
really
felt
like
okay.
This
is
actually
going
to
start
to
touch
like
you
know,
people
outside
of
the
web
3
ecosystem.
At
some
point.
A
Awesome
yeah,
I
totally
agree
those
yeah
web
2,
web
3,
bridges
and
d5
are
just
awesome
and
have
driven
a
a
huge
amount
of
adoption
from
folks,
I
think
who
are
definitely
really
new
to
the
space.
So
it's
been
really
amazing
to
see
that
yeah
I
mean
shikai
and
and
colin.
What
do
you
think?
How
would
you
characterize
this
period
in
the
life
cycle
of
web3.
C
Should
I
go
first
or
colin
go
for
it
all
right,
so,
similarly
with
gabriel,
I
think
we're
at
a
very
exciting
time,
although
still
very
early
in
the
whole
life
cycle
of
web3.
If
you
look
at
it
from
the
grand
scale,
I
think
most
recently,
everybody
has
been
really
optimistic
because
of
the
developments
and
decentralized
finance.
I
think
that
is
actually
proof
of,
like
the
very
early
kind
of
you
can
say
it's
like
the
minimum
viable
ecosystem
for,
like
a
group
of
applications
to
start
emerging
because
of
this
of
the
work.
C
That's
been
done
over
the
past
couple
years,
all
the
infrastructure,
all
the
tooling,
all
the
primitives
that
have
been
like
coming
up
and
now
you
can
get
some
of
these.
The
applications
start
to
take
off.
So
we're
really
excited
about
this,
and
I
think
it
converges
with
the
early
validation
of
some
of
the
mechanisms
that
are
also
more
effective
right
back
then,
when
it
was
just
everybody,
printing,
their
own
money
and
selling
icos.
It
was
also
like
that
proved
to
be
not
very
sustainable.
C
As
you
can
see,
and
now
we
get,
I
feel
getting
a
little
bit
closer
to
to
what
what
three
could
be
in
terms
of
like
building
the
communities
that
are
actually
contributing
to
the
various
networks
that
we
are
creating.
So
I
think,
overall,
still
very
early,
but
moving
rapidly
towards
the
adoption
cycle.
Given
the
maturing
infrastructure
and
mechanisms
and
people.
D
Yeah,
I
completely
agree
with
that.
I
I
like
to
use
the
crossing
the
chasm
framework
as
as
one
kind
of
way
to
look
at
the
space
and
I
still
think
we're
in
the
innovators
early
adopters
segments
like
we
have
yet
to
cross
that
chasm
to
the
other
side,
and
I
actually
do
believe
that
the
underlying
protocols
in
web3
are
now
reaching
the
point
of
scalability
and
functionality.
When
you
look
at
e2
and
polkadot
and
itfs
and
falcoin
all
those
that
base
layer
is
right
there,
where,
where
we
are
ready
to
cross.
D
That
chasm
and
what's
missing,
is
the
ux
for
the
average
users
and
for
developers
to
be
able
to
build
the
killer
applications
that
can
be
used
by
millions
and
hopefully
billions
of
people
in
the
short
term,
and
I
think
we're
right
on
the
cusp
there
that
those
applications
are
starting
to
take
hold,
that
we
can
use
that
ux
to
cross.
That
chasm
and
what
I'm
most
optimistic
about
is
programs
like
like
long
cash
and
tachyon
and
others
that
recruit.
D
You
know
the
quality
and
quantity
of
founders
and
developers
that
this
space
needs
to
be
able
to
accelerate
past.
That
chasm
into
the
majority-
and
I
really
think
we're
right
on
the
cusp
there:
the
kinds
of
quality
founders
and
developers
and
entrepreneurs
I'm
seeing
in
the
space
are
unlike
I've,
seen
in
the
last
three
years,
and
they
continue
to
flood
in,
and
those
folks
will
create
the
kind
of
ux
and
application
quality
that
that
we
need
to
to
get
to
the
next.
A
Stage,
yeah
totally
agree.
I
think
these
are
great
points
to
to
bring
up
and
I'm
curious,
as
we
think
about
moving
from
a
little
bit
more
of
this
focus
on
the
underlying
protocols
and
we're
starting
to
see
protocols
that
can
support
real
scale
across
a
number
of
different
foundational
pieces
of
like
the
computing
infrastructure
of
web3
yeah.
So
you
know
met
this.
This
focus
that
you
mentioned
call
in
on
ux,
both
for
average
users
and
developers.
A
What
are
some
examples
that
you
of
projects
that
you
think
have
really
nailed
this
so
far
in
the
space
or
you
think,
have
the
potential
to
nail
this?
What
are
some
of
the
things
that
you
think
these
teams
have
done
really
well,
and
what
can
the
broader
ecosystem
learn
from
some
of
these
projects?
Colin,
I
don't
know
if
any.
If
anything
immediately
comes
to
mind.
D
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
two
kind
of
like
categories.
For
me,
one
is
just
unbelievable
user
experiences
where
you
know
you
would
use
it
in
a
web
2
or
web
3
context.
You
don't
even
know
what
the
underlying
infrastructure
is,
and
there
are
just
a
ton
of
applications
that
are
starting
to
get
reached.
That
level
of
quality
audience
you
know
is,
is
kind
of
like
a
music
streaming
application.
You
would
not
be
able
to
tell
that's
on
web3
tech.
D
D
I
think
d5
that
gabriel
mentioned
is
like
a
perfect
industry
that
that
encapsulates
that,
when
I
think
of
filecoin
like
what
we've
been,
what
what
I've
been
working
on
for
the
last
little
while
it's
not
really
about
like
filecoin
disrupting
you
know,
aws
or
google
cloud
to
me,
you
know
when
I
look
at
the
market.
There's
95
percent
of
data
that
gets
created
in
the
world
that
currently
does
not
get
stored
in
any
kind
of
context,
and
there
are
reasons
behind
that.
D
It's
either
too
expensive
or
you
need
someone's
permission
or
you
need
to
be
a
company
in
order
to
store
that
file,
etc,
and
so
how
does
file
coin
enable
not
necessarily
compete
with
the
five
percent
of
data
that's
currently
stored,
but
enable
the
95
of
data
that
isn't
stored
to
find
a
home
right
and
so
to
me.
That
second
bucket
is
super
interesting,
like
use
cases
that
these
protocols
enable
that
just
cannot
actually
exist
in
a
web
2
context
and
and
that
that's
one
particular
area.
I'm
super
super
interested
in.
A
Totally
totally
agree:
yeah
I
mean
chicago
and
gabriel,
as
as
you're,
you
know
running
these
programs
for
exactly
these
sorts
of
projects.
I'm
curious
kind
of
like
the
split
you're
seeing
you
know
whether
it's
these
kind
of
web
2
type
style
products
that
are
enabled
by
web3
technologies
or
projects
that
are
really
just
trying
to
take
advantage
of
some
of
the
unique
features
of
web3.
B
Yeah
I'll
go
first,
so
you
know
in
web
2
and
in
the
start
you
know
scene.
You
know
everybody
talks
about
like
likes
to
talk
about
product
market
fit.
You
know,
but
successful
companies
are
built
to
solve
a
problem,
and
you
know
most
startups
never
really
find
the
problem
they're
trying
to
solve-
and
that's
especially
true
true
in
web3
right
like
it
doesn't
matter
what
the
question
is.
The
answer
is
always
the
same.
It's
like
whatever
cool
tech
that
you're
working
on
right.
It's!
B
B
I
think
what
we're
starting
to
see,
at
least
with
this
program
is
there
are
some
really
use
cases
that
I
think
what
colin
was
saying
earlier.
That
could
have
only
been
possible
because
of
the
underlying
technology
stack,
but
you
don't
need
to
explain
blockchain
to
the
end
user.
B
All
all
they
know
is
that
they're
getting
a
better
product
or
a
better
service
at
a
better
price
as
a
result
of
the
underlying
technology,
and
so
those
are
the
companies
that
I've
been
really
like
thinking
about
a
lot,
especially
as
we're
entering
into
this
program
and
there's
there's
a
couple
that
I
could.
I
could
give
you
just
right
off.
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
company,
that's
that.
B
Has
this
really
unique
insight
in
this
in
this
upcoming
batch
that
everybody,
whether
you
know
it
or
not,
everybody
has
digital
assets
and
there's
a
real
issue
with
inheriting
your
digital
assets
and
there's
real
value
there,
and
so
they're
they're
sweeping
the
blockchain
or
they're
they're
sweeping
the
blockchain
tech
under
the
rugs.
So
the
consumer
doesn't
really
have
to
interact
with
it,
but
they're,
creating
a
seamless
experience
for
the
end
user
to
to
be
able
to
pass
on
their
digital
assets.
B
There's
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff.
That's
now
starting
to
happen
around
video
transcription
services
right.
So
especially
as
you
start
thinking
about
you
know
this
environment.
This
context
that
we
find
ourselves
in
right
now,
this
coveted
environment
you've
got
a
number
of
users
who
are
in
emerging
markets
who
are
engaging
in
e-learning
platforms.
B
Well,
if
you
have
really
bad
latency
low
latency
in
in
your
in
your
video
product,
that
becomes
a
real
issue
and
we're
talking
about
markets
with
billions
of
users,
billions
of
people,
they
don't
have
to
know
the
underlying
technology
stack.
That's
enabling
this
all
they
need
to
know
is
that
the
latency
issue
has
been
solved
and
has
been
solved
at
a
fraction
of
the
price
of
you
know
of
one
of
the
traditional
video
transcription
companies,
so
so
yeah.
I
this
is
like
where
I
start
to
get
really
interested.
B
It's
like
trying
to
sniff
out
the
real
problem
for
the
end
user,
the
end
customer
and
your
tech
is
not.
Nobody
really
cares
about
your
technology
or
your
stack.
You
do
as
a
developer.
Maybe,
but
your
customer
doesn't
all
they
care
about,
is,
did
you
solve
their
problem
and
and
did
you
solve
it
at
a
price
point
that
makes
sense
to
them.
C
Yeah
totally
agree
with
that
and
totally
echoed
a
sentiment
that
so
many
founders
are
speaking,
especially
in
the
web3
ecosystem
are
like
wow.
C
So
for
us,
like,
I
think
that
that
has
always
been
the
case
like
blockchain
kind
of
a
solution.
Looking
for
a
problem,
but
one
I
think
area
of
demand
that
has
been
super
clear
over
the
past
few
years
is
the
need
for
digital
assets,
the
the
demand
for
digital
assets,
like
driven
by,
I
think,
the
adoption
of
bitcoin
ethereum
and
so
on.
I
think
that
has
spawned.
C
I
think
you
can
see
like
the
first
companies
that
really
found
the
kind
of
product
market
fit
were
indeed
like
the
miners,
the
exchanges
right,
the
wallets
and
then
so.
Those
were
the
ones
that
grew
organically
and
then
from
there.
Once
people
have
digital
assets
once
they're
more
familiar
with
the
tools,
then
they
need
hardware
wallets,
they
need
software
walls
and
your
browser
wallets
then
they'll
start
to
need
stable
coins.
C
To
then
do
the
exchanges
so
then,
like
that
was
kind
of
the
second
wave
and
now
like
with
those
things,
I
feel
that
it
is
much
easier
than
to
then
okay
now
I
have
d5
but
like
in
order
to
get
there.
I
needed
digital
assets,
I
needed
a
meta
mask.
I
needed
all
those
things
to
be
in
place
before
I
can
do
that.
C
So
now
I
can
say
that,
okay,
if
I
want
to
do
lending
or
borrowing
now,
I
can
say
okay
compared
to
traditional
bank
as
well,
I
don't
go
through
all
that
all
so
much
paperwork
so
much
time.
I
can
just
do
it
within
a
few
clicks,
even
though
it
takes
quite
a
few
steps,
but
it's
way
better
compared
to
the
substitute
and
that's
what
we
always
like
to
compare.
We
always
like
to
say:
okay,
we're
so
much
better
compared
to
the
other
blockchain
project,
but
no.
C
A
That's
that's
really
interesting
actually
makes
me
think
of
a
podcast.
I
listened
to
recently
recently
where
someone
was
talking
about
how
just
the
world,
even
even
absent,
like
web
3,
the
world
in
general,
is
starting
to
find
more
value,
and
these
kind
of,
like
fractionalized
marketplaces
for
all
sorts
of
assets,
obviously
crypto
enables
this
or
like
web3
enables
this
at
a
level
of
granularity.
That
is
maybe
much
harder
to
do
in
other
sorts
of
in
other
sorts
of
industries
or
just
like
web
2
in
general.
But
I
am
curious.
A
You
know
trying
to
marry
these
concepts
a
little
bit
because
we're
talking
sort
of
about.
Obviously
there
are
so
there
are
generally
for
basically
for
most
things,
there
is
a
substitute
that
exists
in
the
world,
but
for
some
things
like
these
hyper,
you
know
like
these
digital
asset,
like
sorts
of
solutions.
A
What
is
the
substitute
that
these
that
people
are
trying
to
build
for,
or
is
it
just
like,
really
a
completely
novel
solution
that
is
trying
to
like
maybe
identify
a
need
that
people
don't
fully
know
that
they
have
but
there's
an
opportunity
there
and,
and
now
like
all
of
these,
you
know,
builders
and
the
space
are
trying
to
expose
those
opportunities
to
to
users
potentially
yeah.
Do
you
think
that
these
solutions
are
like
disrupting
some
sort
of
existing
substitute
or
is
it
like
fundamentally
new?
What
do
you
think
shakai.
C
Yeah,
so
I
think,
like
colin
mentioned,
there
are
some
projects
that
are
trying
to
build
certain
things
or
make
certain
real
life
well
use
cases
just
much
more
efficient
right
like,
and
we
see
it
in
like
storage
and
then
all
these
examples
we
see
in
the
financial
sector,
people
using
these
private
blockchains
for
like
just
more
transparent
and
like
faster
settlement
like
that,
that's
okay
as
well!
In
the
past,
we
have
also
accelerated
startups,
who
are
in
the
energy
sector
in
the
supply
chain,
and
all
these
are
pretty
good.
C
Well,
I
know
we're
trying
to
disrupt
them
as
well,
but
these
were
what
we
call
like
the
internet
native
companies,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
where
we
talk
about
where,
like
there
is
no
substitute
or
the
substitute,
is
that,
like
I
have
to
go
through
a
lot
of
pain
of,
let's
say
issuing
equity
to
all
my
employees
and
the
paperwork
for
that
all
like
incorporating
incorporating
a
company
and
like
all
the
processes
that
come
with
that
right
and
so,
instead
of
doing
that,
what
can
a
token
achieve?
C
A
Yeah,
I
think
it's
great
and-
and
it
also,
I
think,
connects
to
something
gabriel
was
mentioning
earlier,
because
you
know,
as
as
we
think,
about
these
projects
that
are
really
just
trying
to
solve
a
real
problem,
and
it's
not
about
you
know,
emphasizing
the
underlying
technology,
but
you
know
there's.
I
guess
this
perennial
question
with
companies
sometimes
where
it's
like
does.
Is
this
a
problem
that
people
know
that
they
have
like?
A
Have
they
explicitly
identified
that
this
is
something
that's
important
to
them,
and
I'm
sort
of
curious,
maybe
gabriel
from
your
perspective,
is
that
is
that
something
that
you
see
with
some
of
the
projects
that
are
coming?
You
know
that
you're
being
exposed
to
is:
are
they
having
an
education
problem?
Maybe,
like
you
know
it's
some
of
I
you
know,
maybe
maybe
their
users
aren't
necessarily
gonna
adopt
because
of
the
web3
underlying
stack,
but
if
it's
also
this
kind
of
like
really
novel
use
case,
how
do
how
do
these
projects?
B
Yeah,
that's
that's
a
great
question.
It
depends
on
who
your
customer
is
right,
like
if
you're
going
after,
like
the
hardcore,
web3
crypto
crowd,
who
is
highly
experimental,
has
an
extremely
high
threshold
for
pain,
especially
with
bad
documentation
or
onboarding,
and
really
bad.
B
You
know
ux,
then
they
kind
of
know
what
they're
signing
up
for
and
really,
I
think,
you're
you
can
play
into
the
the
novelty
or
you
can
play
into
the
newness
right
like
this
ecosystem,
especially,
is
all
about
the
new
new
right,
like
everybody
wants
to
discover
the
hot
new
thing
and
then
be
able
to
talk
about
it
on
twitter,
and
you
almost
see
like
this
media
influencer
amplification
play
in
in
our
ecosystem,
which
I
think
a
lot
of
really
smart
startups
in
the
web.
B
3
space
can
leverage
to
their
advantage
and
don't
really
need
to
lean
into
you
know,
maybe
some
of
the
more
fundamental
aspects
of
like
building,
maybe
a
traditional
web
2
company,
but
you
know,
certainly
if,
if,
if
what
you're
building,
if
if
you
believe
your
market
size,
is
a
massive
market
and
and
you
believe
that
the
market
that
you're
playing
can
become
a
massive
market
and
you're
simply
using
kind
of
this,
you
know
the
web
3
ecosystem
as
your
initial
beach
head.
B
But
then
you
want
to
expand
beyond
into
other
market
segments,
then
I
you
do
eventually
have
to
start
thinking
about
some
of
those
other
components.
You
know
the
quality
of
the
ux,
the
quality
of
the
ui,
especially
d5
d5
companies,
in
particular
like
we
have
a.
We
have
a
company
in
our
last
cohort
in
our
open
finance,
cohort
called
pai
dao.
They
spent
a
lot
of
that
was
really
smart.
B
They
built
a
really
rich
and
robust
community,
but
they
also
spent
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
on
their
brand
and
their
ui,
and
the
reason
why
that's
important,
especially
when
you
start
talking
about
d5,
which
I
for
me,
is
just
fintech
2.0,
the
the
bar
of
credibility
in
the
mind
of
the
consumer,
like
the
legitimacy
of
of
you
as
a
company,
really
matters
when
you
start
talking
about
things
that
matter
like
people's
money
right,
and
so
you
know
it
really
depends
on
your
customer
segment.
B
You
can
get
away
with
a
lot
with
the
early
adopter
crowd
and,
and
that
can
be
a
great
beachhead
for
you,
especially
as
you
as
especially
as
you
are
exploring
the
problem
space.
Your
early
adopters
will
allow
you
to
make
a
lot
of
mistakes
as
you
explore
the
problem
space,
but,
as
you
start
to
move
up
the
stack
or
cross
the
the
chasm
as
colin
was
referring
to
earlier
into
larger
and
larger
markets,
who
are
maybe
less
tolerant.
You
really
have
to
empathize
with
them
that
they
are
not
on.
B
You
know
twitter
defy
all
day
and
know
the
ins
and
outs
of
what's
happening
and
we'll
and
we'll
put
up
with
some
of
these.
These
bad
elements.
D
I
I
do
want
to
emphasize
what
gabriel
said,
though
we
should
we
shouldn't
discount
the
unbelievable
power
of
having
so
many
adopters
early
adopters
in
the
web3
space.
My
one
of
the
industry
segments
that
my
last
startup
served
was
the
construction
industry
and
boy
did
you
have
to
have
like
a
very
developed
product
before
these
late
adopters
decided
to
adopt
it
right
and
so
the
the
kinds
of
like
innovation
that
you
know
just
having
a
whole
group
of
early
adopters
in
the
same
space,
working
together
with
each
other?
D
Just
catalyzes
is
incredible,
and
you
know
I
I'm
gonna,
assume
and
gabriel
pointed
this
out.
The
tachyon
cohort,
for
example,
a
lot
of
the
first
users
that
those
companies
are
gonna
you
know,
sell
to
or
or
adopt,
are
each
other
like
within
the
cohort
just
because
they're
all
early
adopters
right,
and
so
we
shouldn't
discount,
like
how
powerful
that,
like
the
fertility
of
that
early
adopter
ethos,
is
in
the
web
to
read
space.
B
Yeah,
that
is
such
an
important
point.
I
actually
want
to
like
touch
on
that.
A
little
bit
you
know
like
companies.
Early
companies
are
really
scared
to
ship
like
a
really
bad
version
of
their
product,
or
especially
in
our
in
our
space.
You
know,
like
I've,
got
to
get
my
smart
contracts
audited,
which,
yes
100.
B
You
do
definitely
that's
the
case,
but
you
have
the
luxury
of
being
able
to
ship
really
bad
products
or
do
low-fidelity
ships
early
to
try
to
learn
from
your
users,
especially
in
this
ecosystem,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
for
web
3
companies
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
leverage
that
we.
B
I
had
this
obsession
with
two
of
our
companies
in
the
last
program,
and-
and
we
might,
I
think
I
have
a
feeling-
we're
gonna-
have
the
same
thing
in
this
cohort,
where
we
were
trying
to
get
these
companies
to
adopt
no
code
front-end
solutions
to
to
validate
some
of
their
assumptions
with
early
customers
and
early
adopters
before
they
went
down
this
long,
complicated,
expensive,
smart
contract
audit
path,
only
to
figure
out
that,
in
fact,
none
of
your
users
actually
give
a
about
what
you're
building
right
now.
So
I
I
think
it's
it.
B
I
think
this
is
true
of
all
early
adopter
communities,
but
especially
true
of
the
web
3
early
adopter
community
is
there
is
a
high
threshold
of
pain
and
we
will
put
up
with
a
lot
because
it's
cool,
but
right
like
we
like
you
know,
whenever
I
see
like
a
cool
project
when
I
saw
audience
I
was
like.
Oh,
this
is
cool
I'll
put
up
with
the
you
know,
with
the
bad,
no
mobile
app
experience.
B
C
You
know
definitely
the
early
adopter
space
with
the
ux
and
partly
it's
been
supercharged
by
this
crazy
incentives
that
has
been
like
going
around.
Indeed,
fire
everyone's
doing
the
whole
liquidity
mining,
which
is
which
is
great
in
terms
of
like
getting
people
like
incentivized,
to
do
certain
things,
so
that
actually
also
accelerates
the
path
to
like
validation,
but
I
think
you
know
part
of
it's
like.
C
We
also
need
to
be
careful
in
terms
of
where,
where
exactly
are
the
true
users
and
the
true
community,
that
will
stay
with
you,
so
the
people
who
think
it's
cool,
but
how
do
we
then
like
translate
that
into
the
feedback
translate
that
into
like
okay?
Is
this
actually
solving
ping
point?
How
often
are
you
actually
using
it?
What
kind
of
features
would
you
really
do
really
solves
your
your
problem?
So
I
think,
as
a
community
or
as
an
ecosystem
like
I'm
always
trying
to
talk
to
the
founders,
let's
move
towards
that
right.
C
A
Yeah
100
we're
brilliant,
with
bootstrapping
and
needing
to
cross
to
the
next.
The
next
phase
of,
as
you
say,
building
true
users
and
true
community
totally
agree.
That's
actually
something!
You
know,
I'm
curious,
I
think
a
few
of
you
sort
of
mentioned
it
earlier,
but
this
idea
of
you
know
in
in
the
web
2
space
like
people
talk
about.
You
know
a
startup
like
there's
some
notion
of
product
market
fit
when
you
when
a
company
is
just
starting
out.
What
does
that
look
like
for
web3
projects?
A
I
think
we
don't
really
have
at
least
that
I'm
familiar
with
you
know
great
frameworks
for
what
is
like
protocol
market
fit,
or
you
know,
or
other
notions
around
that
or
for
just
for
like
open
source
projects.
What
does
it
really
mean
for
like
a
project
to
kind
of
achieve
that
in
in
web
3.
B
Take
this
gabriel
yeah
I'll
do
the
first
version,
so
the
first
thing
is
having
a
real,
a
good
problem,
and
a
good
problem
has
a
couple
of
key
elements
to
it.
Right.
It's
there's
an
insight.
There
there's
a
level
of
intensity.
You
know
it's,
you
know
the
the
the
analogy
that's
given
is:
are
you?
Are
you
selling
an
aspirin
or
you're
selling
a
vitamin
right?
B
A
vitamin
is
like
hey,
I'd
love
to
be
healthy,
and
you
know,
but
aspirin
is
like
I'm
in
pain,
solve
my
pain
right
and
that's
a
really
good
problem.
You
know,
how
painful
is
it
how
expensive
expensive
is
it
to
solve?
Who
is
this
a
problem
for?
Is
it
a
problem
for
a
lot
of
people
or
a
small
group
of
people?
I
think
once
you
kind
of
hone
in
on
this
problem.
B
The
second
key
element
is:
are
you
in
a
good
market
and
the
thing
about
a
good
market
is
there's
a
time
series
to
it
right,
a
good
market
is
it's
growing,
it's
changing
it's
evolving
right
and
it
can
grow
change
and
evolve
into
a
very
large
market,
and
a
market
is
just
you
know.
People
transacting,
you
know,
buying
goods
and
services
right.
B
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
is
somebody
willing
to
trade
value
in
exchange
for
you
solving
that
problem
that
you
identified
and
are
there
enough
of
them
and
are
the
transaction
sizes
and
the
transact
transaction
frequencies
and
transaction
amounts
large
enough
to
justify
a
very
large
business?
A
large
market
will
solve
a
lot
of
problems
for
early
stage
companies
if
you're
kind
of
in
a
large
space
in
a
large
enough
space,
you
can
afford
to
make
a
lot
of
mistakes,
especially
in
the
early
days.
B
B
So
you
know
the
old
adage
is
that
is
that
there's
no
more
white
space
right,
like
everybody's,
already
thought
about
every
every
potential
problem
that
you
could
probably
think
of
but
are?
Are
you
do
you
have
a
unique
insight
around
this
problem
right?
Do
you
have
a
unique
vantage
point,
something
you
know
either
that
you,
you
know
you've
experienced
yourself
or
you've
just
talked
to
enough
customers
who
have
experienced
this
problem
that
you've
kind
of
like
pattern
recognized
across
a
bunch
of
people
and
gone?
Oh,
it's
not
this!
Everybody
thinks
this.
B
It's
really
that
and
then
build
your
product
around
that.
I
think
those
are
the
the
core
components
I
think,
with
product
market
fit
when
those
kind
of
things
line
up
and
fit
together.
That's
when
you
find
the
elusive
product
market
fit.
C
Colin,
you
want
to
go
or
go
for
it
yeah,
so
I
fully
agree
with
everything
that
cable
has
mentioned.
So
then
what
are
some
some
of
the
signs
to
look
for
to
know
that?
Have
I
really
kind
of
hit
it
right
and
that's
where,
like
the
the
continuous
iteration,
is
really
important
and
watching
certain
metrics
are
really
important.
So
I
think,
like
I
mentioned
before,
like
we're
looking
past,
like
the
initial
hype
of
the
launch
or
like
a
token
issuance,
for
example,
we
need
to
look
at
like.
C
Is
there
like
actual
organic
growth?
Is
there
like
actual
usage
of
the
of
the
actual
product
that
is
itself
kind
of
like
increasing
over
time
in
terms
of
engagement,
frequency
volume
and
all
that
so
there
is.
There
needs
to
be
this
like
type
feedback
loop,
that
people
look
at
instead
of
like
just
just
focusing
on
your
your
product
vision
that
needs
to
it
needs
to
be
in
touch
with
who
you're
trying
to
reach
out
to
and
whether
you're
actually
solving
that
that
pain
point.
C
So
that's
why
you
know
exactly
like
april
mentioned
before.
Sometimes
you
don't
even
need
a
full
product.
You
need
like
we
always
like
to
talk
about
like
even
before
you
start.
You
can
have
a
landing
page,
you
can
talk
to
customers
and
once
you
start
building,
you
can
have
a
minimum
viable
product.
You
can
have
a
roadmap
and
after
involve
your
users
and
then
the
iteration
and
improvement
of
all
those
things.
B
I
would
even
I'd
go
a
step
further
than
that,
and
I
would
say
articulation
is
your
first
product
right.
Yes,
before
you
even
start
building
anything,
if
you
can't
articulate
the
problem
and
who
this
is
a
problem
for
and
what
your
solution
is,
you
don't
need
to
be
building,
and
so
really
like
content
is
your
first
product
or
articulation?
Is
your
first
product.
D
Yeah,
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
gabriel
and
chikai,
like
that.
All
of
that
is
is
basically,
you
know
kind
of
the
fundamentals
that
you
have
to
get
right
as
a
business
in
the
web
3
space.
I
think
the
one
thing
I
would
add
is
what
what
might
be
unique
to
web
3
more
so
than
anything
is
after
you
figure
out
that
initial
you
know
aspirin
versus
vitamin
and
that
product
market
fit.
D
How
do
you
leverage
the
token
economics
of
the
underlying
infrastructure
that
you're
using
to
scale
way
more
rapidly
than
you
could
in
a
web
2
context,
because
that
is
so
unique
to
web3
and
has
such
in
intense
incentive
mechanisms
and
and
such
interesting
ways
to
hack,
two-sided
networks
and
markets,
and
things
like
that
that
that
might
be
one
additional
layer
that
once
you
figure
out
the
the
core
value
proposition?
How
do
you
scale
it
in
a
in
a
differentiated
way.
A
Yeah
100
awesome
yeah,
I
mean
I,
I
think,
the
some
of
these
ideas
of,
like
the
you
know,
the
unscalable
initial
tests
that
projects
can
run
to
to
validate
whether
there's
like
something
there
they're
solving
for
a
real
for
a
real
problem.
You
mentioned
a
few
of
those
is:
is
there
something
I
mean,
because
I
think
one
thing
that's
kind
of
interesting
with
with
web3?
Is
that
you
know,
and
also
when
you're
like
talking
to
the
early
adopters
and
folks
who
are
just
going
to
try
something
because
it's
new?
A
How
do
you
differentiate
between
like
signal?
That's
coming
in
these
like
early
tests
from
people
who
are
who
are
interested
because
it's
exciting
versus
people
who
are
there?
Because
you
know
it's
really
solving
a
problem
that
they
that
they
have
a
real
problem
that
they
have?
I
don't
know
yeah
she
yeah
go
for
it.
Should
I
start.
C
Yeah,
I
think,
if
you
yes,
I
think
if
we
only
look
at
the
numbers
of
say
your
all
the
tvl
on
all
number
of
users,
the
number
of
token
holders,
it's
easy
to
be
deceived
and
say
like
wow,
we
have
so
much
adoption
or,
like
you
know,
a
market
cap
is
such,
but
it
becomes
really
obvious
when
you
talk
to
the
actual
users
or
the
token
holders
of
of
each
of
these
protocols
right
like.
Are
they
just
concerned
about
whether
your
token
price
is
gonna
go
up,
or
are
you
asking
hey
when's?
C
Your
next
feature
coming
out
like
hey,
this
particular
like
ux
or
like
this
journey
was
not
great
for
me,
like
hey,
are
you
going
to
integrate
this
other
thing
so
then
I
can
use
it
in
all
these
other
ways
too.
When
is
your
mobile
version
or
anything
of
those
coming
out,
and
when
you
actually
talk
to
yours,
it
becomes
obvious.
Then,
like
you
know
whether
the
people
are
actually
using
your
product
or
they're
just
there
to
like
speculate
and
like
join
the
hype
or
like
profit
from
your.
C
D
Yeah
I
had
this
rule
of
thumb
that
you
know
threaten
to
take
it
away
and
see
how
they
how
your
users
react
right,
and
so
you
know
we
have
this
awesome
developer,
tooling
platform
called
textile
and
filecoin.
Now
I
think,
in
the
hundreds
of
applications
now
rely
on
them
to
use
filecoin
to
store
data
if
they
said,
hey
guys,
we're
we're
no
longer
doing
this.
How
many
of
those
users
would
say?
D
Oh
my
god,
what
are
you
doing
to
my
business
and
to
my
organization
and
to
my
user
base
right
and
so
just
it's
hard
to
simulate
that
test
for
real,
but
you
know
you
can
find
different
ways
to
get
at
that.
Have
that
same
message.
A
Yeah
100
yeah
and
actually
just
a
little
bit
related
to
that.
But
switching
gears
is
something
you
mentioned
before
colin
this
idea
of
leveraging
some
of
the
you
know
the
token
economics
and
some
of
the
mechanisms
there
to
really
bootstrap
that
initial,
that
initial
market
and
that
initial
community
I'm
curious.
If
there
are
some
like
models
for
fundraising
and
monetization,
that
you've
seen
that
are
unique
to
web3
that
are
like
most.
A
You
know
really
exciting
to
you
that
maybe
break
the
molds
a
little
bit
that
you
think
kind
of
ties
into
yeah,
like
both
being
a
really
great
business
model
and
also
a
really
great
mechanism
for
for
growing
initial
community.
D
Yeah,
I
I
think
both
defy
and
kind
of
the
initial
ico.
Iteration
did
many
things
to
disrupt
both
venture
capital
and
traditional
finance,
and
so
you
know
you
could
access
capital
and
and
use
capital
in
different
ways
than
you
than
you
couldn't
have
before,
and
so
that's
kind
of
from
a
fundraising
perspective
a
little
bit,
but
I
also
think
like
hacking,
the
actual
underlying
components
of
the
product
and
the
stack
is
important
too.
So,
for
example,
you
know
the
underlying
token
economics
of
the
filecoin
network
have
enabled
you
know
in
just
two
months.
D
I
believe
you
know
500
petabytes
of
storage
to
join
the
network,
and
that
is
enormous.
That
is,
you
know,
think
of
storing
150
million
hd
movies
or
like
100
times
the
netflix,
netflix
library
or
streaming
together,
like
over
a
million
macbook
pros
right.
That
is
enormous
and
all
of
those
miners
are
now
bidding
to
acquire
you
as
a
client.
D
If
you
have
an
application,
that's
storing
lots
of
data
or
a
little
bit
of
data
onto
the
network,
and
so
that's
like
a
fundamental
economic
disparity
versus
kind
of
the
traditional
web
2
cloud
storage
providers
that
you
can
leverage
in
your
business
to
do
to
expand
and
prove
out
a
completely
different
value
proposition,
and
so
that
that's
kind
of
how
I
think
about
it.
Like
you
know,
it's
fundraising
is
one
thing
and
there's
some
like
really
interesting
paradigms
that
are
shifting,
particularly
in
the
ethereum
space.
A
Yeah
definitely
agree
gabriel.
I'm
curious
like
from
you
know,
also
your
experience
with
broader
web
3
and
d5
specifically.
Are
there
have
you
seen?
I
don't
know
what
are
some
of
the
more
interesting
models
that
you've
seen
that
are
using
that
just
have
like
interesting
takes
on
on
using
like
crypto
economics
to
bootstrap
initial
communities.
B
I
think,
for
me,
like
governance,
tokens
were
probably
one
of
the
coolest
mechanisms
that
are
native
to
the
web3
space
right.
All
of
a
sudden,
you
take
your
advocates,
you
take
your
community,
you
take
your
builders
and
you
let
them
participate
in.
You
know
the
where
the
project
goes
and
the
upside
of
the
project.
B
You
know
being
able
to
tokenize
the
governance
mechanisms
of
some
of
these
projects
and
really
put
it
into
the
hands
of
the
of
the
of
the
community
and
say
we
trust
you
to
help
us
continue
to
move
this
in
the
direction
that
you
see
fit,
I
think
is,
is
just
really
amazing,
and
then
you
know
what
we're
starting
to
see
now
with
you
know,
with
fair
launch
mechanisms,
you
know
kind
of
taking
it
to
its
next
level.
I
think
it's
just
really
interesting
and
really
fascinating.
B
Right,
like
this
is
the
the
thing
that
you
know
when
when
uber
ipo,
everybody
you
know
talked
about
that
that
they
really
slipped
up
on
is
how
did
they
not
give
their
drivers
who
built
that
company
built
that
their
net
that
network
early
stock
in
that
ipo
or
stock?
In
that
ipo
like
that,
just
to
to,
I
think
for
those
of
us
on
what
three
now
that
just
seems
like
it
would
have
been
a
no-brainer
and
those
those
type
of
mechanisms
are
now
available.
B
You
know
starting
off
in
the
web
3
ecosystem,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
be
one
of
those
unique
killer
features
that's
going
to
make
its
way
into
the
the
broader
web
because
it
just
makes
it
makes
so
much
sense.
I
mean
web
2
is
kind
of
like
jumping
through
all
these
hoops
to
try
to
get
there.
You
know
there's
like
points
or
crazy
loyalty
rewards
for
you
know,
customers
and
stuff,
like
that.
B
C
Yeah
for
sure,
maybe
adding
a
bit
to
that,
so
we've
been
really
excited
with
the
governance
tokens
launches
as
well.
A
lot
of
people
are
asking
hey:
what's
the
value
capture
of
these
tokens
like?
Why
are
you
just
issuing
it?
There's
no
value,
it's
completely
an
experiment,
but
actually
governance
in
itself
is
a
form
of
value,
because
you
essentially
are
the
network,
you
form
part
of
the
network
and
then
so
it's
it's
really
hard
to
price
that,
because
it's
not
something
that
we
really
have
in
the
traditional
space.
C
I
guess
equity
is
some
form
of
an
equivalent,
but
usually
actually
also
backed
by
some
financial
metrics,
so
just
a
form
of
governance.
This
is
for
value
capture
and
therefore
like
that
has
been
really
effective,
as
a
form
of
you
can
say
like
bootstrapping
or
kind
of
like
fundraising,
if
you
have,
if
your
issues
and
tokens
and
some
of
them
come
back
to
the
network
and
that
forms
your
pool
of
be
a
treasury
or
like
funds
that
you
can
use
incentivize.
C
Essentially,
that
is
fundraising
right,
because
what
do
you
need
the
funds
for
you?
Usually
you
need
the
funds
to
grow.
You
need
to
fund
sustain
a
network,
so
you
can
use
that
by
issuing
a
token
like
you
don't
need
the
funds
to
come
in.
You
can
just
straight
away
start
like
distributing
it
and
that's
the
beauty
of
web3.
A
Yep
100
see
lots
of
agreement
from
the
group.
That's
great
yeah
totally
agree.
I
have
a
bit
of
a
different
direction
for
these
next
few
minutes.
I
was
curious.
You
know
we
talk
a
lot
in
sort
of
traditional
business.
I
guess
about
the
idea
of
first
mover
advantages
and
you
know
lots
of
people
in
crypto,
I
think,
and
in
web
3.
Have
you
know
different
opinions
on?
A
Oh,
can
there
be
like
one
chain
to
rule
them
all
or,
like
you
know,
what
is
what
is
the
model
of
the
world
that
we
think
is
is
most
likely
to
exist,
but
I'm
curious,
you
know
just
given
the
state
of
what
the
space
looks
like
overall,
what
would
you
say
to
someone
who's
like
looking
to
build
a
new
project
for
the
first
time?
A
Are
there
first
mover
advantages
that
like
people
should,
should
you
know
that
maybe
have
already
been
captured,
and
so
maybe
people
should
should
like
steer
clear
of
certain
subsets
of
this
industry
or
certain
parts
like
certain
layers
of
the
stack?
Are
there
like
certain
areas
where
there
still
is
a
lot
of
like
first
mover
advantage
type?
You
know
value
to
be
to
be
gained,
and
so
maybe
people
should
think
about
starting
their
businesses
there
yeah.
A
So
how
do
you
think
about
that
in
the
context
of
web
three
colin,
I
would
curious
your
thoughts
first.
Maybe.
D
Yeah
you
know
I
I
do
go
back
to
my
to
my
crossing
the
chasm
framework
and
we're
so
early
that
it's
it's
just
impossible
to
tell.
There
are
so
many
more
experiments
that
need
to
be
run
before
we
can
decide
on
the
answer
to
that
question
on
whether
you
know
there
is
a
first
mover
or
not,
but
I
I
would
default
back
to
the
paradigms
of
the
early
web,
one
movement
and
how
many
of
the
companies
from
you
know
the
early
90s
in
web.
D
One
do
you
see
around
today,
like
not
very
many,
there
was
a
whole
hype
cycle
and
a
whole.
You
know
user
development
cycle
and
people
were
saying
the
same
things
back.
Then
you
know
I'm
just
you
know
quite
not
old
enough,
but
just
on
the
cusp
to
remember
some
of
that,
where
you
know
people
were
like.
Oh
you
know,
we
missed
the
internet
boom
and
we'll
never
catch
this
wave
again
and
it's
too
late
to
enter
now.
Yet
a
whole
different
wave
of
wave
of
in
innovation
enter.
D
So
I
I
definitely
think
it's
just
the
beginning.
There's
a
whole
lot
of
a
whole
lot
of
room
to
grow
and
a
whole
lot
of
experimentation
to
be
had.
C
Yeah,
so
in
terms
of
first
mover,
I
would
say
it's
not
necessarily
an
advantage,
I
would
say
it's
the
first.
It's
a
strategic
decision
to
become
the
first
mover
in
a
particular
niche.
Well,
I
I
do
think
you
do
get
certain
benefits
right.
The
early
network
effects
you
get
to
build
the
community
early
and
you
can,
if
you
can
continue
to
innovate,
based
on
their
feedback
and
then
the
community
becomes
stickier,
and
then
you
get
certain
lindy
effect
as
it
exists
across
a
certain
period
of
time.
C
So
you
do
do
get
all
of
that,
but
also
everybody
needs
to
be
aware
of
the
trade-offs
right,
which
is
like
being
the
first
mover.
You
are
taking
the
burden
of
like
innovating
and
figuring
out
what
actually
works
in
the
space
and
then
because
most
of
the
space
is
quite
open
source.
It's
quite
transparent
people
can
actually
copy
those
ideas.
You
can
literally
take
parts
of
your
code
and
then
just
like
fork
it
or
like
just
modify
it
at
certain
components.
C
When
that's
that's
the
innovation
part,
so
it
there
are
trade-offs
that
come
with
it.
But
if
you
can
tap
into
like
the
early
growth
benefits,
that's
certainly
very
powerful.
B
I
I
don't
have
much.
I
agree
with
both
those
statements,
the
maybe
the
the
one
or
two
places
that
I
would
say
there
might
be
a
true
first
mover
advantage
in
this
space,
even
though
it
is
definitely
early
days
is
devtools
and
infra.
I
think
those
are
those
are
probably
going
to
be
pretty
locked
in
by
the
early
users
and
the
fir
and
the
first
users
into
that
space,
but
short
of
that,
I
I
think
it's
it's
wide
open
territory.
A
Yeah
as
colin
was
saying
before,
let's
ask
all
these
folks.
You
know
we're
building
on
top
of
all
these
tools
like
well,
how
would
you
feel
if
these
are
taken
away?
Probably
a
lot
of
people
would
be
pretty
unhappy
today,
so
totally
agree
the
great
perspectives
there.
So
I
think
you
know
we
have
about
10
minutes
left
and
I'd
love
to
move
to
audience
questions
in
a
minute,
but
really
quickly
before
we
close
this
portion.
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
just
open
open
it
up
to
all
of
you.
A
C
Yes,
yes,
yes,
so
starting
a
new
company
is
really
are
a
new
project.
It's
never
easy
and
it
always
helps
to
have
people
around
you
to
be
supporting
on
this
journey,
be
on
the
tech
side,
people
on
the
on
the
partnership,
side,
customer
side
and
also
having
fellow
builders
in
the
same
like
environment,
in
the
same
like
mindset
as
you.
So
with
that
I
would
say
joining
well
accelerator
or
group
of
cohorts
actually
is
a
fantastic
way
to
get
started
and
well
right.
C
Now
we're
recruiting
for
the
fall
coin,
frontier
accelerator
from
where
we're
going
to
be
based
in
singapore.
We
welcome
everybody
globally
to
join
us
and
we
love
to
support
you
on
your
training.
B
The
standard
advice
I
love
that
plug
by
the
way
our
program
just
launched.
I
got
nothing
to
plug
here,
the
the
advice
that
I
give
founders
in
both
web
2
and
web
3.
All
the
time
is
the
difference
between
a
project
and
a
startup
is
a
customer.
B
If
you
just
remember
that
and
and
put
make
that
your
focal
point
like
truly
understand
who
you're
building
for
what
are
their
pain
points?
What
do
they
need?
What
are
their
fears?
What
are
their
anxieties?
What
are
their,
what
are
their
greeds
like?
If
you
truly
understand
the
underpinnings
of
your
users
and
your
customers,
you're,
going
to
go
very
far.
D
And
my
statement
will
be
pretty
simple:
it's
that
the
next
generation
of
web3
depends
on
you
as
builders,
and
you
have
the
opportunity
to
help
this
whole
space
cross.
The
chasm
into
the
early
majority
to
embed
your
own
values
in
the
code
that
you
write
and
to
be
able
to
build
applications
that
reach
billions
of
people,
and
so
we're
counting
on
you.
A
Awesome,
those
are
great.
Thank
you,
so
much
awesome
and
maybe,
while
we're
looks
like
there
are
some
questions
that
have
been
asked
on
youtube,
could
I
ask
some
someone
to
maybe
collect
those
questions
somewhere
so
that
we
can
repeat
them?
In
the
meantime,
there
were
some
questions
that
we
got
from
folks
that
were
submitted
in
advance,
so
I'll
maybe
go
to
those
first.
A
So
the
first
one
is
a
question
from
marco
rodriguez
of
volterra
and
he
asks
how
do
you
plan
to
align
incentives
between
what
I
call
or
he
calls
the
sandwich
problem
at
the
bottom
of
the
sandwich?
Are
service
providers
and
internet
infrastructure
providers
that
have
been
built
over
the
last
20
years
and
in
the
last
five
years,
especially
this
infrastructure
has
become
highly
centralized
by
design
to
optimize
for
costs
and
for
accessing
fang
content
providers.
A
The
industry
is
commoditized
and
phasing
facing
margin
compression
and,
on
the
other
hand,
on
the
top
of
the
sandwich.
You
have
the
cloud
and
content
providers.
So
the
question
is:
why
would
people
move
away
from
these
providers,
given
their
momentum.
C
This
this
seems
to
be
quite
a
directed
question
to
it
sounds
like
a
web
to
question
part
pardon
my
comment,
but
I
I
think
yeah
for
sure
I
mean
the
the
providers
and
the
platforms
are
like
squeezing
more
traditional
companies.
I
think,
like
that's
exactly
where
web3
provides
the
white
space
for
you
to
then
build
on
right,
because
the
infrastructure
is
there
and
there
are
various
components
of
the
infrastructure
that
are
at
various
degrees
of
decentralization.
C
The
applications
are
there
at
various
degrees
of
decentralization
as
well,
and
there's
like
the
bridge
between
the
web,
2
and
web
3.,
so
and
there's
this
opportunity
to
kind
of
recreate
that
full
stack
of
the
full
tech
web
stack
and
in
a
way
it
is
needed,
because
when
an
asset
or
an
interaction
is
a
kind
of
blockchain
native,
you
do
need
that
full
stack
that
is
web3
native.
C
So
I
would,
I
would
say,
yeah
like
why
not
look
at
this
web3
native
stack
and
that
could
present
a
lot
of
interesting
sets
of
problems
for
you
to
solve,
and
also
a
lot
of
freedom
for
you
to
then
navigate
this.
A
Awesome
and
gabriel
did
I
see
you
maybe
have
you
guys
here?
I.
B
Just
there
there's
some
assumptions
in
that
statement
that
I
maybe
I
I
don't
quite
agree
with
you
know,
especially
in
emerging
tech.
You
know
you
have
what
I
would
refer
to
as
the
evolutionaries
and
the
revolutionaries
right.
So
the
revolutionaries
are
like
all
the
startups
they're
disruptive
they're,
innovative.
B
They
want
to
come
in
and
take
market
share
from
the
large
incumbents.
But
then
you
have
the
legend
commons
that
realize
that
if
they
don't
innovate
and
disrupt
themselves,
it's
going.
Somebody
else
is
going
to
to
do
it
and
take
their
business
and
so
they're
the
evolutionaries.
They
realize
that
they
need
to
evolve
their
business
and
involve
their
in
their
business
models,
involve
their
their
their
stack.
And
so
I
I
I
don't.
I
I
see
the
there's
not
so
much
of
an
incentive
alignment
issue.
B
It's
just
you
know,
there's
just
a
lot
of
building
that
needs
to
take
place,
and
it's
it's
a
matter
of
momentum
and
progress.
A
Yep
definitely
awesome
and
then
I
think
we
have
so.
We
have
another
pre-submitted
question
from
charles
cao
who's,
the
ceo
of
nebula
ai
inc,
and
he
asked
what
does
support
look
like
for
app
developers.
What
are
future
channels
for
application
developer
teams
to
get
funding-
and
I
think
probably
everyone
here-
has
lots
of
things
to
say
and
to
maybe
additionally
plug
so
colin.
Do
you
want
to
start
with
this?
One.
D
You
know
it's
just
a
an
incredible
platform
of
folks
that
are
entering
the
market
and
and
there's
tremendous
amounts
of
support,
all
from
hackathons
like
eath,
global
and
hack,
fs
and
and
other
things
like
that
that
allow
folks
to
experiment
and
learn
and
and
and
develop
something
in
a
prototype
stage
to
folks,
like
git
coin,
who
run
like
six
to
eight
week,
accelerators
where
you
just
get
a
little
bit
of
mentorship
and
you're
trying
to
get
a
product
to
an
mvp.
Where
you
have
a
couple.
D
Customers
to
you,
know
the
unbelievable
and
incredibly
powerful
accelerators
that
gabriel
and
chica
run
that
take
that
you
know
initial
mvp
and
teach
you
how
to
scale
it
into
a
real
business
and
a
real
kind
of
organization.
And
so
there's
just
the
full
spectrum.
There's
lots
of
opportunities
to
learn,
build
and
launch
across
the
web3
stack
and
really
encourage
folks
to
take
advantage
of
those.
C
Yeah,
I
think
cover
most
of
it.
If
I
can
recap
the
plug
slightly
as
well,
there
is
a
20
20,
000
grand
that
comes
with
the
falcon
frontier
accelerator.
So
that's
a
little
to
keep
in
mind
and
there's
also
a
one
million
pool
of
funds
for
full
on
investment.
That's
like
parked
and
ready
for
you
to
access
by
the
middle
or
or
the
end
of
the
program,
not
to
mention
the
the
full
investor
network
that
we'll
bring
in
as
well
and
the
user
bases
who
may
be
participating
in
crowdfunding.
B
But
finance
and
fundraising
is
built
into
the
stack
of
web
three,
so
no
shortage
of
of
opportunities,
depending
on
on
where
your
project
is.
A
Totally
awesome
and
then
so
we
have
a
question
from
youtube
as
well.
So
this
question
is
at
what
point
in
the
file
coin
roadmap:
will
it
be
ready
to
onboard
major
web
2
websites?
Colin,
you
want
to
take
this
one.
D
I'll
say
my
answer
and
then
why
don't
you
say
your
answer
puja?
So
obviously
you
can
launch
a
website
on
filecoin
today.
I
highly
recommend
you
check
out
slate
as
one
really
awesome
example
of
a
website
or
use
space
from
fleeq
which
allows
you
to
deploy
websites
onto
ipfs,
filecoin
and
many
other
services
like
that.
D
Like
you
know,
in
just
two
months,
500
petabytes
of
information
has
been
on
board
into
the
network,
and
so,
if
you
continue
at
that
rate,
we'd
be
in
the
exabytes
within
a
year
or
so,
which
is
absolutely
enormous,
and
so
I
think,
from
a
scalability
perspective,
we're
getting
pretty
close
to
support
pretty
mainstream
websites.
D
We
need
to
kind
of
build
the
tooling
and,
and
some
of
the
other
functionality
that's
required-
that
those
websites
are
used
to
in
an
existing
environment
like
aws
or
google
cloud,
and
things
like
that
and
make
a
few
other
optimizations
in
the
filecoin
protocol
to
to
kind
of
get
there.
So
all
that
said,
I
would
predict
six
months,
but
I
defer
to
puja,
who
also
knows
a
lot
about
that.
A
I
think
that's
great,
I
love.
I
love
that
you
named
a
time
frame.
That's
awesome!
We
should
do
that
yeah.
I
think
it's
it's
awesome
or,
like
you
know,
all
the
topics
that
we're
talking
about
are
definitely
true
in
the
case
of
file
queen
as
well.
Where
we're
thinking
about
you
know
what
are
the
early
adopters
of
file
coin
and
you
know
who
are
they?
What
are
the
problems
that
we're
trying
to
solve
for
them?
A
How
do
we
build
initial
really
compelling
stories
of
success
while
we're
building
the
like
the
easy
to
use,
developer,
tooling
and
everything
so
that
in
a
few
months
time
or
a
few
quarters
time,
we
have
both?
A
lot
of
you
know
demonstrated
success
with
like
early
adopters
and
also
really
much
like
much
more
robust
tooling,
so
that
we
can
start
to
tackle
like
broader
use
cases
beyond
web3
as
well.
A
So
I
think
everything
colin
said,
plus
one
working
on
it
and
hopefully
very
soon
awesome,
and
I
think
we
have
our
last
question,
which
I'm
not
sure
I
think
this
maybe
was
potentially
directed
at
filecoin,
but
I
think
it's
like
I'm
gonna,
just
generalize
it
to
web3
more
more
broadly.
So
what
are
the
biggest
roadblocks
to
web3
adoption?
Is
it
fiat
on-ramps
or
wallet
complexity?
Something
else
gabriel.
Do
you
want
to
start
this?
One.
B
I
I
think
web
3
is
still
looking
for
its
killer
use
case.
You
know
that
makes
it
mainstream
adoptable.
You
know,
I
think,
we've
belabored
the
point
of
like
finding
a
problem.
What
makes
a
good
problem
you
know
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
you
know
when
you
think
about
the
killer,
use
cases
of
of
like
web3
technology,
censorship,
resistance,
decentralized
and
distributed.
You
know
there
are.
B
There
are
a
couple
of
applications
that
you
can
start
to
imagine
and
then
layering
in
some
maybe
new
and
interesting
business
models
that
would
make
it
mass
adoption.
You
know
viable
and
we're
super
close.
I've
seen
a
lot
of
interesting
projects.
There
are
a
couple
that
I'm
you
know,
I'm
really
excited
about
that
that
I
think
might
have.
The
potential
falcon
is
one
of
them,
so
yeah
we're
we're
coming
we're
getting
there.
It's
coming.
C
Yep,
so
I
think
for
web3
adoption,
we've
been
talking
about
mass
adoption
for
years
now,
and
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
take.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
one
kind
of
killer
app
or
like
one
protocol,
that's
going
to
like
help.
Do
it.
It
needs
to
be
everybody
working
in
concert,
effort
in
your
own
initiatives.
C
Right,
if
you
think
about
like
how,
for
example,
uber
needed
to
take
off
it's
not
the
app
itself
like
you
needed
the
whole
internet
right,
you
needed
the
gps,
you
needed
smartphones,
mobile
apps,
you
needed
the
payments
to
for
all
of
that.
So
all
of
these
components
were
built
before
uber
even
came
before
you
and
even
exist
thought
about
like
people
even
dreamed
about
it
or
maybe
like
it
couldn't
have
existed
without
it.
So
I
would
say
mass
adoption
will
it
will
come
eventually,
but
everybody
needs
to
do
our
part.
C
A
Yeah,
it's
a
great
last
comment,
awesome!
Well,
thank
you
so
much
to
everyone
for
participating
and
those
who
attended.
I
think
this
has
been
a
really
really
amazing
conversation,
and
hopefully
it
will
be
useful
for
for
new
builders
in
the
space.
If
folks
want
to
learn
more
about
about
the
three
of
you
or
like
connect
with
you
online
or
learn
more
about
your
programs,
where
should
they
go?
What's
your?
What
are
like
the
best
places
to
find
you
online.
A
Amazing
awesome,
and,
and
also
for
those
who
may
not
know
filecoin
mainnet.
The
launch
ignition
moment
is
this
thursday
and
we
have
a
huge
number
of
really
exciting
events
that
are
planned
next
week.
We're
calling
this
event
liftoff
week
colin
knows
all
about
it,
but
if
you're
watching
this,
please
join,
there's
gonna
be
so
much
to
learn
next
week
and
really
really
excited
for
everyone
to
join
us.
For
that.
Thank
you.
So
much
see
you
later
bye
thanks,
puja.