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A
All
right
all
right
welcome
everyone.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us.
My
name
is
justin
co-founder
ceo
of
mona
moana's,
the
first
platform
that
enables
any
creator
to
build
mins
and
sell
a
high
fidelity
metaverse
world-
and
I
am
so
stoked
to
be
here
today
with
five
trailblazing
artists
who
are
really
changing
the
game
today.
We're
talking
about
what
the
future
of
nfts
are
going
to
be
like
nfts,
have
evolved
to
become
more
than
just
jpegs
and
creators
at
the
forefront
of
this
evolution,
including
these
five
really
amazing
individuals
here
today.
A
So
our
objective
for
today
is
to
share
some
of
the
thinking
about,
what's
next
for
nfts
how
creators
can
get
involved
and
what
this
means
for
the
future
of
culture
and
humanity.
So
I
think
to
kick
this
off.
You
know
I
would
love
for
each
of
you
guys
to
introduce
yourselves,
maybe
starting
with
andre
o'shea
over
here
at
the
end,
welcome
andre
how
you
doing.
B
Hello,
everyone,
my
name,
is
andre
o'shea
and
I'm
a
well
here
here
we're
about
to
cue
the
the
standard
clubhouse
speech,
I'm
a
3d
animator
based
out
of
atlanta
georgia,
but
in
all
honesty,
oh
yeah,
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
I
own
a
cove
of
dolphins
and
I
train
them
also
to
become
3d
animators
like
me
and
dolphin
dao
coming
soon
so,
but
in
all
honesty,
yeah,
I'm
a
3d,
animator
generalist
right
outside
of
atlanta.
I've
been
in
web
3
for
just
over
a
year.
B
C
Hey
everybody,
I'm
stones,
I'm
a
creator
out
of
philadelphia,
multifaceted.
I
actually
got
into
nfcs
because
of
andre
and
yeah
just
been
grateful
for
all
the
energy.
You
know
the
people,
the
opportunities
that
this
space
has
provided
so
yeah,
very
bullish
on
web3
and
pasha.
D
D
E
Go
austin.
I
am
a
traditionally
2d
filmmaker
and
really
saw
the
power
of
3d
and
immersive
storytelling
to
build
empathy
back
into
society
and
to
make
transformational
change
and
social
impact,
and
that's
really
what
I'm
all
about.
E
F
Hey
everyone,
my
name
is
hard
and
I'm
a
metaverse
architect
and
I'm
actually
a
an
architecture
student
right
now
in
los
angeles,
california-
and
you
know
I
came
into
this
space
in
september
kind
of
like
just
kind
of
focused
on
community
and
that's
kind
of
where
I
met
andre
and
stones
and
what's
funny
is
I
actually
really
looked
up
to
them.
You
know
a
lot
and
I
was
really
nervous
about
joining
their
twitter
spaces
as
much
like
as
open
as
they
were
right.
F
The
nftr
talks-
and
you
know
my
heart-
was
shaking
when
I
actually
like
requested
to
be
speaker
and
it's
kind
of
funny,
because
now
it's
kind
of
like
full
circle
and
like
now,
I'm
actually
on
a
panel
with
them
and,
like
you
know,
we're
actually
like
pretty
cool,
but
I'ma
speak
for
myself
on
that
one.
A
And
we're
live,
we're
also
live
on
twitter
right
now,
too,
live
streaming
so
yeah
well
yeah.
Thank
you
guys,
everyone
for
being
here
yeah.
This
is
this
is
so
exciting.
I
mean
we're
talking
about
nfts
they're,
more
than
just
jpegs,
now
right.
That
may
have
been
where
they're,
where
they
started,
but
now
we're
looking.
A
Yeah
candies
mp4
mp4s,
but
but
beyond
that
you
know
hard's
a
metaverse
architect
so
is
jeff
over
here,
but
then
you
know
and
nfts
can
also
be
music.
Latasha
is
the
first
female
rapper
on
blockchain.
Actually,
first
question:
maybe
starting
with
latasha:
where
did
you?
How
did
you
get
started
into
nfts
and
how
have
they
changed
your
life.
D
Wow
long
journey,
but
I
found
myself
thinking
about
how
much
I
wanted
to
get
rid
of
the
middle
men
and
gatekeepers
of
my
industries
for
a
long
time
during
the
pandemic.
I
was
doing
a
lot
of
meditation
on
how
I
wanted
to
figure
out
a
new
form
of
independence.
D
I
think
that
was
like
my
first
step
was
just
the
idea
and
you
know
I
live
in
an
amazing
house
with
a
collective
of
artists
and
my
partner
jamal
reynolds,
who
we
all
got
laid
off
during
the
pandemic
and
we're
all
just
like.
How
are
we
going
to
figure
this
life
thing
out
and
I've
been
making
music
for
10
years,
but
during
the
pandemic
I
couldn't
perform.
D
Most
of
the
industries
were
shut
down.
If
we
wanted
to
get
our
songs
on
sync
or
tv
or
anything
like
that,
everything
was
shut
down.
So
I
was
waiting
for
checks
and
money,
for
I
mean
almost
a
year
through
the
pandemic,
so
I
was
really
just
starving
and
then
one
day
my
partner
came
into
the
room
and
he
was
like
yo
you
ever
heard
of
nfcs
and
I
was
like
nah
and
he
was
like
yo,
I'm
selling
my
art,
it's
like
crypto
art,
you
know,
and
it's
like
really
amazing.
D
I
see
all
these
dope
artists
doing
it
and
I
was
like
nah
like
what
about
your
copyright.
What
about
all
the
things?
I
was
real
skeptical
about
it
and
then
I
started
seeing
him
pay
his
rent
off
of
it,
and
I
was
like
okay.
So
then
he
was
like
yeah.
You
know
I
paid
all
my
rent
for
the
last
three
months.
D
I
was
like
okay
and
then
I
was
like
what
else,
though,
and
then
he
started
introducing
me
to
like
sir
sue
and
faith
love,
and
then
I
met
andre
in
time
and
all
this
beautiful
community
that
was
growing
in
this
space
and
all
community.
That
looked
like
me,
which
was
really
important.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
saw
black
faces.
D
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
saw
women
and
I
was
really
excited
so
I
jumped
in
in
february,
which
is
now
like
a
year
almost
yeah
I
jumped
in
in
february,
and
I
saw
one
hip-hop
artist
named
connie
digital
who
is
a
pioneer
in
the
space
and
he
was
like
the
the
light
the
north
star
for
me,
and
I
was
like
all
right.
Let
me
bring
some
music
into
the
space,
but
I
saw
that
the
space
was
really
jpegish,
png-ish
and
visual.
D
D
Can
I
get
an
invite
and
they
pulled
me
up
with
an
invite
now
they're,
no
invite,
so
you
could
just
pull
up
to
door
if
you
want
to
and
they
actually
paid
my
first
gas
fee
and
that
changed
my
life,
because
I
was
like
I'm
gonna
pay
this
gas
fee
and
I'm
into
that
first.
Music,
video
on
the
blockchain
february
16th,
and
that
became
history.
D
It
sold
in
three
minutes
and
I
was
totally
confused
and
shook
up,
but
I
felt
like
there
was
this
healing
happening
with
my
money
wounds
as
an
artist
and
my
wellness
wounds
as
an
artist.
I
think
a
lot
of
artists
are
dealing
with
just
feeling,
like
their
energy
is
not
always
being
reciprocated
back
to
them
and
through
the
blockchain.
I've
really
been
able
to
find
this
form
of
safety
and
security
being
really
found
here
and
I'm
really
grateful,
and
that
was
the
start.
And
now
I've
sold
188.
D
Thank
nfcs,
yes,
sir.
I
like
this
audience
because
other
audiences
like
what,
in
a
summer
I
made
what
a
record
deal,
would
have
tried
to
give
me
in
a
label
contract
without
giving
out
my
copyright
or
masters
or
anything,
and
this
has
completely
revolutionized
my
life.
I
am
a
six-figure
almost
hitting
seven-figure
artist
now
without
anybody
on
my
back,
except
for
zora
a
little
bit,
but
that's
all
right
I'll,
let
them!
D
And
now
I
get
to
build
community
programs
and
really
support
other
artists,
and
I
onboard
artists
through
this
program,
called
zorotopia
and
we're
doing
some
events
here
at
south
by
southwest
which
I'm
really
excited
about,
and
I've
onboarded
over
500
artists
into
web3.
Now.
A
Amazing
amazing,
actually
I'm
going
to
take
it
over
to
stones
too,
because
stones,
I
know
you
do
you.
You
work
music
into
your
your
work
as
well,
and
I
know
you
play
with
some
ai
and
everything
so
we'd
love
to
hear
more
about
what
you're
working
on
and
how
you're
really
kind
of
changing
things
more
than
just
thinking
beyond
the
jpeg
yeah.
C
C
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
publicly,
because
yeah
without
these
two,
I
don't
know
if
I
would
have
felt
comfortable
entering
this
space
and
being
here
now-
and
I
guess
I'll
kind
of
talk
about,
I
think,
leaning
into
being
a
multifaceted,
creative
within
web3
is
really
dope,
because
before
it's
kind
of
difficult,
you
know
making
graphic
art
putting
music
out
doing
all
these
things
like
on
an
instagram
page,
it's
very
confusing
as
an
artist,
and
it
is
also
confusing
for
your
audience
but
coming
into
web
3.
C
Being
able
to
tell
your
story
be
able
to
show
yourself
and
and
whole
is
literally
just
like
now.
This
art
is
a
part
of
me.
C
I
get
to
put
it
out
into
the
world
and
it
gets
reciprocated
by
no
matter
who
is
there
to
receive
it
just
because
we're
in
a
different
way
of
thinking
and
nfts
have
completely
changed
my
life,
I
oh
oh,
my
bad
yeah,
I
just
like
I'm
projecting
but
yeah,
and
if
nfts
have
completely
changed
my
life,
not
only
as
far
as
from
financial
matter,
but
being
able
to
explore
my
artistry
in
full
and
have
be
able
to
build
community
around
it.
C
I
was
lucky
enough
to
be
featured
on
the
homepage
of
openc,
with
a
collection
of
333
pieces
and
they
all
sold
out,
and
after
that
I
was
able
to
invest
into
a
real
physical
space
here
in
philly
I
mean
back
in
philly
and
it's
going
to
double
as
a
recording,
studio
and
nit
art
gallery
just
to
push
that
multifacetedness
and
there's
so
many
creatives
that
are
looking
for
spaces
and
places
like
that.
C
So
they
can
be
them
full
selves
and
I
think
that
it's
just
deeper
than
the
art,
sometimes
because
it's
like
a
subconscious
thing
you
go
through
blocking
yourself
and
denying
yourself
these
things
and
web
3
just
diminishes.
All
of
that
once
you
you
figure
it
out,
you
know,
and
it
takes.
It
looks
different
for
everybody
but
yeah.
I
think
that
the
healing
aspect
definitely
like
just
comes
with
just
creating
your
art
and
being
present
in
this
space
and
yeah
you
just
gotta
kind
of
release,
control,
sometimes
and
good
things
come
and
yeah.
C
That's
what
I've
realized
about
web3,
I'm
just
grateful
every
time
I
have
an
opportunity,
I'm
just
like
yeah.
I
love
you
all.
Thank
you
like.
I
appreciate
this,
but
yeah
web
3
has
has
definitely
changed
my
life
and
being
able
to
just
combine
the
art
forms
it.
It
not
only
like
spurs
your
creativity,
but
sometimes
even
being
able
to
be
like
hey.
I
want
to
do
this,
I'm
thinking
like
this,
but
I
can't
do
this.
C
Let
me
collaborate
and
I
think
that's
the
dopest
thing
too,
being
able
to
collaborate
and
have
that
value.
It
be
almost
instant.
Like
the
the
transference
of
it,
like,
I
always
talk
about
how
one
of
my
first
collaborators
outside
of
andre,
was
z4
who's,
an
an
artist
in
africa
right
he's
in
nigeria
two
years
ago
me
and
my
partner
crooks.
We
threw
a
virtual
show
and
our
artist
was
in
nigeria
right.
We
could
not
pay
him.
We
tried
like
four
or
five
different
ways
to
get
him
his
money.
C
We
ended
up
having
to
send
a
it
on
cash,
app
to
someone
in
the
united
states
for
them
to
get
it
me
and
z,
sell
out
on
openc.
I
get
his
ether
scan.
He
gets
his
money
like
like
his
wild
address.
He
gets
his
money
and
it's
just
like
even
that
understanding
that
nfts
are
not
just
art
but
also
a
tool.
You
know
to
to
get
your
dreams
out
there
to
heal
yourself
and
just
to
push
forward
so
yeah.
That's
my
scope
of
entities
being
more
than
a
jpeg
wow.
That.
A
Incredible
yeah
a
couple
things
I
want
to
tap
into
there.
I
think,
like
the
collaborative
aspect,
also
the
tool
we'll
come
back
to
the
tool
aspect
too,
but
maybe
like
andre,
do
you
have
any
collaborations
that
you
like?
How
important
is
collaboration
been,
I
guess
in
your
process-
and
you
know
you
say
you're
you're,
making
pngs,
but
really,
I
think
it's
it's
deeper
than
that.
There's
more
depth
if
you're
not
familiar
with
andreas
work,
he's
one
of
the
most
incredible
3d
artists
on
the
planet
and
has
really
been
pushing
that
forward.
A
I
think
you're,
probably
one
of
the
first
3d
artists,
who
are
really
paving
the
way
in
nfts
and
utilizing
nfts
with
your
work,
so
we'd
love
to
just
hear
more
about
your
journey
there,
and
if
you
want
to
touch
on
collaboration,
we'd
love
to
hear
about
any
any
projects.
You'd
like
to
talk
about.
B
B
We
switch
mics,
actually
yeah,
okay,
there
we
go
yeah,
y'all,
gotta,
listen
to
me
now
and
but
yeah
I
started.
The
same
way
did
not
sell
out
in
three
minutes.
It
took
me
like
three
weeks.
It
was
the
most
like
daunting
time
of
my
life.
I
was
like.
Where
is
my
sale
coming
from,
but
coming
into
nfts?
I
had
a
very
collaborative
background
because
I
was
freelancing.
B
I
was
a
freelance
animator
designer
for
about
five
six
years,
leading
up
into
that
and
that's
just
always
been
a
essential
part
of
my
my
artistic
like
career
or
movement
or
like
driving
forces.
B
You
know
one
thing
I
realized
as
a
freelancer
is
like
there
are
a
ton
of
people
in
the
world
right
and
everybody
has
their
own
unique
skill
set
right
and
mine
just
happens
to
be
in
3d
and
design
right,
but
I
know,
for
instance,
I
can't
like
re-tile
my
bathroom
like
I
just
couldn't,
do
it
you
know,
but
there's
somebody
who,
like
that's
their
skill
like
that's
their
like.
B
You
know
god-given
talent,
and
what
I
realized
is
that
I
actually
needed
to
learn
how
to
share
my
gift,
because
there's
tons
of
people
who
have
amazing
ideas,
they
just
don't
have
the
technical
know-how
to
make
some
3d.
You
know
environment
or
world,
but
you
know
I
started
to
realize,
like
their
ideas
are
equally
valid
as
mine.
Just
because
I
have
the
know-how
to
do.
It
doesn't
mean
that
it's
not
important
for
me
to
work
with
others
who
don't
right
so
taking
that
sort
of
foundation
about
collaboration
into
the
nft
space.
B
I
feel
like
it's
sort
of
allowed
me
to
work
with
people
outside
of
my
immediate
medium,
whereas
like
stones,
he
does
some
3d
work,
but
traditionally
is
not
like
a
3d
artist
in
the
same
way
that
I
am
we've
done
a
lot
of
collaborations
where
it's
blending
the
genres
right
or
it's
sort
of
like
melding,
the
two
and,
like
you
know
this
is
some
alpha,
but
there's
some
andre
o'shea
x,
latasha
stuff
around
the
world
and
but
again
that's
a
different
type
of
collaboration
where
it's
you
know,
sort
of
like
visualizing,
an
auditory
idea
and
I'm
actually
actively
collaborating
with
hard
right
now
on
building
a
mona
space
right,
actual
metaverse
space
and
and
in
this
world
again,
like
I,
don't
know
how
to
build
the
moda
space.
B
I
don't
know
how
to
use
the
functionality
and
all
this
stuff
in
heart
is.
You
know,
kind
enough
to
lend
his
lent
his
expertise
to
me,
and
you
know,
we've
been
able
to
so
far
create
something
pretty
cool.
But
I
also
think
stones
was
saying
was
bringing
up
collaboration
too
about
in
the
nft
space
and
just
how
important
and
key
it
is.
It's
a
it's
all
expansive
space
right,
there's
endless
possibilities
here
and
we
all
know
about
the
power
of
community.
B
I'm
sure
that
it's
like
probably
the
top
four
word
that
all
of
us
have
heard
in
nfts
but
like
it's
obviously,
and
then
people
always
follow
it
up
and
say,
but
it's
true
though,
but
I'm
gonna
do
it
again.
But
it's
true
though-
and
I
don't
know-
that's
just
been
my
experience
with
collaboration
yeah-
I
don't
know,
but
also
take
some
time
to
work
firm
by
yourself
as
well,
because
that's
also
important.
A
F
A
Prolific,
so
you're
building
so
you're
an
actual
architecture,
student
now
building
architecture
in
the
metaverse
nft
metaverse
worlds,
collaborating
with
artists
like
andre
o'shea
like
stones,
the
organic.
I
would
love
to
just
hear
more
about
that
journey.
What
that's
been
like,
and
also
touching
a
bit
on
that
community
aspect
too,
like
how
important
has
community
been
in
your
success
that
you've
had
so
far.
F
Yeah
so
yeah,
I'm
gonna
reiterate
that
community
is
super
important
because,
as
an
architecture
student,
you
kind
of
like
go
into
school
kind
of
just
knowing
that
you
know
once
you
graduate
you're
gonna
have
to
basically
like
pay
off
all
these
loans
or
you're.
Basically
like
setting
yourself
on
a
path
of
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
how
to
describe
it,
but
I
just
felt
like
I
wanted
more
and
I
needed
to
know
like
what
else
I
can
do
like
not
only
for
me
but,
like
you
know,
for
my
family
and
everything.
F
So
in
around
march
I
kept.
I
only
saw
the
word
nfts
like
twice
on
my
timeline
at
the
time,
and
I
was
like
all
right,
weird
acronym,
I
kind
of
like
acronyms,
let's
figure
out
what
this
means.
It's
a
non-fungible
token
I
was
like.
I
don't
know
what
one
of
those
words
mean.
So
I
was
like
and
then,
when
I
started
doing
the
research
I
kind
of
saw
like
a
foundation,
I
kind
of
seen
like
how
people
were
selling
and
you
know
in
all
honesty.
F
My
first,
like
my
first
thought,
was:
oh
I'm
gonna
be
rich
right
because
I
see
all
these
people
selling
right
and
I
released
my
first
art
piece
that
was
architecture
focused
and
nobody
cared
about
what
I
was
doing
and
I
decided
to
actually
leave
the
space.
But
around
september
I
kind
of
decided
that
you
know
what
this
space
is
actually
really
special
and
I'm
actually
just
gonna
come
in
with
no
art
project
in
mind
and
I'm
simply
just
gonna
support.
F
Other
people,
I'm
not
going
to
even
like
talk
or
do
anything
about
my
own
work.
So
I
literally
like,
would
join
in
twitter
spaces
or
just
see
tweets
on
my
timeline,
and
I
would
support
those
people
and
like
hype
them
up.
Sometimes
I
would
dm
people
and
just
talk
to
them
about
how
good
their
projects
were
right
and
that's.
F
F
I
met
mona
and,
like
mona's,
been
able
to
help
me
out
a
lot
and
right
now,
I'm
like
people
are
contacting
me
to
work
on
projects
that
I
really
don't
understand
like
how
I
even
got
like
working
on
a
the
first
ever
decentraland
meta,
first
fashion
week,
right
and
then
liberty,
mutual
bank
he's
like
contacting
me
and
every
day
that
I,
like
I
contact,
and
I
talk
to
these
people.
F
I
just
say
to
myself,
like
I
have
class
the
next
day,
like
you
know
what
I
mean
and,
like
I
gotta,
show
up
to
these
meetings
and
talk
to
these
people
and
give
them
like
budgets
on
like
what
I
can
charge
them.
Like
you
know,
on
a
project
and
every
day,
I'm
just
like
super
grateful,
and
I'm
just
happy
to
be
here
and
like
happy
to
be
supporting
everyone
in
the
community
but
yeah
and
a
lot
of
people
in
my
school.
Don't
even
know
I'm
doing
this.
F
A
E
Yeah
absolutely
so
you
know
I
started
out,
as
I
was
saying
in
the
2d
world
of
filmmaking
and
for
me
I
felt
like
there
was
so
much
potential
in
the
video
and
the
animation
and
the
motion
and
the
audio
and
everything
that
comes
with
that.
But
I
was
starting
to
feel
kind
of
limited
because
there's
only
so
much
you
can
do
at
a
certain
point
of
time.
So
then
I
realized,
you
know
nfts
could
be
the
future
when
I
was
learning
about
it
back
in
2017
during
south
by
and
I
started
this
path
of
realizing.
E
If
I
just
got
this
information
out
there
in
some
type
of
entertaining
way
to
really
get
people
engaged
with
these
these
foreign
concepts,
like
digital
twins,
self-sovereignty,
crypto
keys,
then
it
could
actually
be
transformative
for
the
average
person
right
now.
We're
kind
of
in
this
I
call
it
digital
dictatorships
with
web
2.
there's
been
such
a
consolidation
of
power
and
centralization
the
algorithm.
E
We
have
no
control
over
what
we
see
in
here
like
yes,
you
can
like
like
like,
but
then
when
there's
these
filter
bubbles
that
we
get
trapped
in
and
we
don't
see
perspectives,
maybe
things
we
should
see
that
we
don't
like
right.
So
one
of
my
big
things
was:
how
do
we
create
a
transformative
platform
or
a
way
of
communicating
ideas
that
people
have
more
control
over
right?
And
so
I
started
on
this
path
of
realizing.
E
If
I
were
to
create
a
short
fashion
film,
because
everyone
loves
fashion
right,
you
gotta
find
the
common
denominator,
and
literally
it
had
to
be
three
minutes,
because
people
have
short
attention
spans
and
then
what?
If
it
was
in
the
metaverse,
what
if
it
was
broken
into
chapters?
What
if
it
was
a
game,
what
it
was
a
journey?
E
And
so
there
were
just
so
many
possibilities
that
started
me
down
this
path
and
then
nft
started
to
become
popular
right
around
february,
when
I
started
getting
on
clubhouse
connecting
with
the
community
on
there
and
really
it's
just
been
a
transformative
opportunity
to
get
the
word
out
about
all
of
this
technology
and
so
yeah.
It's
just
been
a
crazy
path.
I've
been
getting
into
ar
now.
I've
been
really
struggling
to
find
my
voice
as
an
artist,
because
I'm
always
hopping
from
one
medium
to
another,
but
I'm
starting
to
like
hone
in.
E
I
feel
like
really
picking
up
these
tools
and
crafting
them
in
a
way.
I
really
want
to
stay
in
the
ar
in
the
immersive
space.
You
know
I'm
starting
to
do
less,
filming
and
shooting
with
the
traditional
sense,
but
it's
still
a
tool
like
all.
These
are
just
tools
to
be
able
to
like
really
tell
stories
and
that's
where
I'm
spending
a
lot
of
time
and
just
so
grateful
to
be
part
of
this
community,
and
it's
been
so
epic.
A
Amazing
amazing
yeah.
Well,
we
all
know
this
space
moves
super
super
fast.
I
would
love
to
hear
kind
of
from
anyone
who
wants
to
chime
in
here
what
are
sort
of
the
biggest
trends
or
the
biggest
trend
that
you're,
seeing
now
that
you
see
kind
of
continuing
to
happen
in
2022,
what's
sort
of
like
yeah.
What's
that
biggest
trend
in
your
mind,.
C
Guess
I'm
the
one
that's
on
twitter
all
day,
so
I
I'm
noticing
there's
be
there's
there's
even
today,
there's
been
a
conversation
of
like
the
101
artist,
and
I
think
that
with
just
so
many
projects
dropping
and
founders,
rugging
projects
and
artists,
rugging
themselves
and
just
like
out
of
projects
there's
just
so
much
going
on.
I'm
just
like.
Let's
bet
on
the
one
of
one
artist,
I
think
that
a
lot
of
the
like
the
pfp
culture,
I
love
it.
I
think
it's
it's
dope.
C
It's
something
nostalgic
about
it
being
able
to
just
put
up
a
cartoon
image
that
may
relate
to
you
and
something
that
you
connect
with.
I
think
it's
dope,
it's
cool,
but
as
far
as
you
know,
just
like
longevity's
sake,
I
think
that
one
of
one
artists,
the
people
who
have
integrity
and
what
they
create
and
as
far
as
just
like
the
intention
to
create
one
piece
and
put
it
out
and
focus
on
that
and
have
have
a
trajectory
for
yourself.
C
I
think
that
they're
just
gonna
be
the
future,
I'm
just
noticing
it
that
people
are
going
to
get
sick
of
this
hype
cycle.
That's
going
on
with
each
project
and
realizing
that
some
of
these
founders
are
the
same
founders
from
the
project
with
all
of
that
type
of
stuff.
It's
just
you.
Wake
up
and
you're
on
twitter
you're,
like
oh,
my
god
like
so
I'm
just
like
focusing
on
artists
and
curation.
I
think,
is
going
to
be
a
big
thing
that
we
see
2022,
2023
2024
and
it's.
C
Separate
just
a
lot
a
lot
of
noise
and
I
think
that
the
the
biggest
thing
in
this
space
right
now
there's
so
much
noise,
but
not
enough
signal.
You
know
like
it's
like,
but
who
is
the
person?
That's
actually
you
know
going
to
make
a
change
or
going
to
say
something,
that's
clear
that
cuts
through
the
noise
that
does
and
it's
always
the
one-on-one
artist.
You
know
that
had
that
stance
so
yeah,
that's
what
I'm
bullish
on
one-on-one
artist
and
curation
within
the
future.
E
Totally
agree
with
that
yeah
yeah
I've
been
focusing
a
lot
on
one-on-ones,
just
also
just
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
you
do
a
generative
project
like
that's,
because
I
feel
like
you
get
10
000
of
something
out
there.
It's
such
a
huge
supply
and
that's
it's
a
blessing
and
a
curse,
but
you
can
have
an
entry
point
for
people
who
may
not
be
super
familiar
with
it,
but
yeah.
There's
a
lot
of
rug
pulls
a
lot
of
scams
to
watch
out
for
so
totally.
D
I
think
music
is
going
to
really
take
a
big
hold
this
year
and
for
the
years
to
come,
I
think
music
right
now
in
web
3
is
disruptive
for
the
music
industry,
which
we
need.
The
music
industry
at
this
point
is
a
broken
system.
In
my
opinion,
it's
still
using
similar
contracts
from
the
1920s
on
artists,
and
we
are
definitely
not
in
the
1920s
anymore.
D
D
You
know
leader
and
I
think
artists
always
have
been
community
leaders
and
I'm
speaking
musicians
when
I'm
speaking,
artists
and
regular
artists
as
well.
I
think
they're
also
community
leaders,
but
I
think
for
musicians,
especially
the
word
in
music
and
the
things
that
music
are
like
musicians
are
intentionally
putting
into
the
music
lead
people
and
lead
movements.
I
think
about
like
kendrick
lamar,
I
think
about
like
j
cole.
D
D
You
know,
there's
beautiful
platforms
like
catalog
works
and
sound
xyz,
which
are
like
new
opportunities
for
musicians
to
like
take
their
music
and
sell
one
of
one
nfts
and
with
son
xyz
you
actually
could
sell
a
collection
of
nft,
so
you
could
sell
80
of
one
song
or
a
hundred
of
one
song
to
a
small
community
and
for
some
people,
that's
like
okay.
How
does
that
scale
like?
What's
the
diff
like?
Why
is
that
better
than
a
spotify?
D
Why
it's
better
to
me
is
because
I
have
direct
connection
now
with
my
fan
base.
I
have
their
wallet
address
and
now
I
could
tell
them
yo.
With
that
token,
you
could
be
a
part
of
my
discord.
You
could
see
more
things
that
I'm
releasing.
You
could
be
a
part
of
actually
making
a
song
with
me
and
that
is
going
to
be
the
future
of
music.
D
You
know
people
are
gonna,
watch
that
and
get
excited
about
music
again
in
this
new
way,
because
they're
a
part
of
it
now
they're
a
part
of
the
journey
with
their
favorite
artists
and
I'm
really
excited
for
that
journey.
We're
about
to
be
on
with
music.
F
Yeah,
I
wanted
to
add
on
to
what
latasha
said,
and
I
think
like
what's
interesting
about
web3
and
nfts
is
like
for
the
first
time.
The
reason
why,
like
it's
so
welcoming
in
my
perspective,
is
that
it
feels
like
a
perfect,
even
playing
field
like
which
means
like.
If
I
want
to
do
something
for
the
community,
I
can
go
out
and
do
it
without,
like
any
middleman
like.
If
I
want
to
build
a
connection
with
my
community,
that's
me
and
the
community.
F
It's
not
me
having
to
talk
to
somebody
to
reach
me
out
to
the
community
and
with
that
even
playing
field.
It
gives
like
all
of
us
like
just
so
much.
I
guess,
control
over
how
we
get
to
help
other
people
and
by
helping
other
people.
They're
gonna,
help
other
people
and
then
they're
gonna
build
their
communities
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
I
think
that's
something.
That's
the
whole
reason.
F
A
Yeah
we'd
love
to
kind
of
touch
on
something
a
little
more
too
latash.
You
mentioned
catalog
sound
xyz.
What
are
some
platforms
that
you
feel
like,
and
this
is
for
anyone
too,
it
doesn't
have
to
just
be
exclusive
to
music.
But
what
are
some
platforms
that
you
guys
think
are
enabling
more
innovation
and
more
sort
of
widespread
adoption
of
nfts.
D
Yeah
there
are
so
many
I
mean
catalog
and
sound.
Xyz
are
definitely
some
of
my
favorites
for
music
there's,
also
arpeggi
labs,
which
is
an
actual
daw
on
chain
where
you
could
make
beats
on
chain
which
is
phenomenal
and
really
next
level.
To
me,
I've
been
waiting
for
an
ableton
on
chain.
You
know
where
I
could
literally
just
mit.
My
beats
right
there
on
the
spot.
Can.
D
Don't
we're
gonna
get
to
that
in
the
future.
There's
also
beats
foundry,
which
is
another
kind
of
like
generative
beats
collection
project,
which
I
really
love.
I
just
actually
got
introduced
to
this
book.
Nft
platform
called
ordegy.
D
It's
so
dope,
like
people
could
mint
their
whole
book
onto
it
like
like
pdf
books
onto
it,
which
is,
I
think,
that's
going
to
be
next
level
as
well,
because
there's
so
many
authors
out
here
who
want
to
you
know
mint
onto
the
blockchain
as
well.
What
are
some
of
my
other
favorites
artiva?
D
C
Was
I
was
just
gonna
talk
about
zora
in
general
as
far
as
plat
platforms
or
protocols
that
are
allowing
artists
to
build
zora
is
one
of
the
dopest,
because
it's
open
source
and
allows
you
to
build
on
top
of
it
and
artiva
is
an
example
of
that
and
catalog
actually,
but
artivo
specifically,
is
a
tool
that
allows
artists
to
build
their
own
auction
houses
without
any
input
from
anyone
else.
C
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
myspace
or
behance
for
an
artist,
so
you
can
create
you
can
mentor
nfts
practically
anywhere
and
long
as
they're
in
your
wallet
as
they
should
be.
You
can
display
them
in
one
place
or
one
auction
house
on
artiva
and
you
have
a
full,
creative
control
of
what
that
looks
like,
which
is
really
really
dope.
C
As
far
as
just
like
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
want
to
mint
from
their
own
smart
contract,
and
then
it's
like
how
do
I
show
that,
besides
using
an
open
c
and
my
biggest
thing
about
artiva
is
as
creatives
within
web
3
we're
all
world
builders
right,
whether
it
be
you
know,
on
twitter,
in
our
art,
on
discord
in
mona
artiva
is
another
example
of
a
tool
that
can
be
used
to
build
your
own
world
around
your
art,
and
it's
it's
a
it's
not
only
for
artists,
but
for
curators
as
well.
C
So
it's
just
a
super
dope
tool
built
on
top
of
zord.
D
There
is
also
hours
network
which
allows
you
to
split
with
a
hundred
different
people
or
100
different
wallets,
if
you
would
like
to
which
is
totally
brand
new,
and
I'm
really
excited
for
that.
Manifold
is
another
great
tool
to
use.
If
you
want
to
make
your
own
smart
contract
glass
protocol
is
actually
a
new
platform
for
music
videos
and
visuals,
all
in
all,
they're,
actually
using
a
lot
of
the
platform
for
educational
videos.
D
So
you
could
mint
educational
videos
on
there
too,
shout
out
to
what's
her
name,
val's
val's,
killing
it
right
now
with
the
educational
videos
about
nfcs
on
glass.
What
else.
B
No,
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
any
any
platform
that
is
really
focused
on
being
a
tool
I
feel
like
is
like
the
platform
to
bank
on
rather
than
like
a
marketplace,
so
to
speak.
B
Just
one
quick
one
to
add,
though,
is
mona
but
yeah,
I
would
just
say
any
tool
specifically
tools
that
help
like
broken
industries,
like,
for
instance,
nfts
as
a
whole,
is
a
tool
that
helped
fix
the
art
industry,
but
like
we're
talking
about
music
right
now
and
we're
trying
to
fix
the
music
industry,
that
needs
a
whole
bunch
of
help
in
you
know,
maybe
something
like
something
that
that
aims
on
helping
like
photographers,
which
I
also
feel
like
there
is
a
broken
industry
authors
huge
one.
I
didn't.
D
C
Yeah
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
literally
echoing
andre,
any
any
protocol
tool,
that's
aiming
to
help
creatives
first
is
also
very,
very
important.
There
are
a
lot
of
platforms
out
here
that
are
just
trying
to
push
art
and
push
sales
and
only
collaborate
with
the
top
name
artists.
But
when
you
have
something
that's
open
and
truly
you
being
used
by
the
community,
then
you
know
that
it's
going
to
have
longevity.
F
I
think
I
think
it's
crazy
that
you
know
you
guys
are
naming
all
these
different
protocols
and
stuff
and,
like
I
only
kind
of
hear
about
them,
but
the
way
that
you
guys
talk
about
them
right
is
like
how
I
talk
about
mona
to
other
people,
because
you
have
like
decentraland,
you
have
like
spatial,
you
have
parcel
yeah
like
and
there's
always
new
ones
coming
out
right
and
whenever
I
have
like
client
meetings,
and
they
tell-
and
I
ask
them
what
like,
what
what
protocol?
Are
you
guys
using
and
they
say
like?
F
Oh,
let's
try,
spatial
or
let's
try
to
central
land
nine
times
that
it's
not
ten
out
of
ten
times.
I
always
point
them
to
mona
and
that's
simply
for
the
fact
that
mona
like
really
tries
to-
and
this
is
not
an
ad
or
anything
by
the
way.
This
is
like.
This
is
a
true
statement
like.
F
So
I
just
love
how
like
they're,
able
to
help
out
like
community
members
and
not
gatekeep,
and
actually
support
the
community,
like
they
actually
say.
So.
I
just
thought
that
was
interesting.
How
you
guys
talk
about
other
protocols.
E
Yeah,
I
just
like
to
add
to
that.
Also
the
discord
is
really
welcoming
place
with
the
other
builders
on
there.
I
just
like
I
didn't
know
how
to
use
unity
before
this
build-a-thon
and
I
went
in
there.
It
was
like
there
were
so
many
challenges,
there's
so
many
times
I
felt
like
giving
up,
but
there
was
moments
when
I
had
paths
of
clarity
when,
after
talking
to
people
on
discord
and
saying
you
know,.
B
E
Do
I
make
this
water
anime?
How
do
I
do
all
these
things
and
just
immediately
super
responsive
supportive?
You
know
super
welcoming
and
inclusive,
and
just
like
it's
just
the
kind
of
culture
that's
being
built.
There
is
absolutely
incredible.
F
And
would
you
say
that
has
a
lot
to
do
with
community.
A
Well,
we
appreciate
that.
No,
I
mean
I
think,
going
back
to
what
everyone
is
kind
of
saying
it's,
it's
all
about
building
the
tools
for
creators
being
creator
first,
and
that's
certainly
the
most
important
thing
for
us
and
just
totally
agree.
I
think
creators
around
the
world
and
in
terms
of
building
the
metaverse
we're
gonna
be
living
in
these
virtual
worlds.
That
creators
build.
A
So
that's
that's
the
most
important
thing
for
us,
but
moving
on
to
something
a
little
bit
different
now
would
sort
of
love
to
kind
of
chat
about
what
you
guys
perceive
to
be
some
of
the
biggest
challenges
facing
nfts
and
kind
of
moving
things
forward.
There.
C
I
guess
I'll
start
scalability
like
we
want
to
onboard
everybody
onto
eth,
but
we
complain
about
gas
fees,
doesn't
make
sense
like
you
know,
and
I
think
that
we
often
get
very
centralized
in
our
thinking
like
we're
like.
Oh,
this
is
a
decentralized
landscape
and
then
we
get
into
it
and
then
we
all
become
ethereum
maxis
right
and
it's
just
like.
We
all
want
to
do
things
on
ethan,
oh
polygon,
I'm
not
touching
that
and
tesla's.
C
Oh
no,
I'm
not
doing
that
like,
but
I
think
that
true,
scalability
and
onboarding
you
ultimately
have
to
go
across
train
and
just
you
know
be
willing
to
test
other
things
out
and
not
everybody
is,
is
willing
to
pay
two
three
hundred
dollars
to
mint,
something
like
that's
rent,
you
know,
that's
groceries!
That's
people
have
real
families
that
they're
taking
care
of
so
just
being
a
little
more
decentralized
and
thinking
and
onboarding,
because
I
just
think
about
you
know:
gas
fees
are
a
thing
and
they're
tough,
but
yeah.
C
Looking
at
other
chains
like
solana,
it's
been
real
dope.
I've
had
some
experience
mixing
on
solana
and
I
love
it
over
there
really
good
community
being
built.
It
reminds
me
of
early
east
days,
like
I
tweeted
a
little
bit
ago,
like
yo.
Take
me
back
to
june
yo
cause
like.
C
So
much
going
on
in
nfts
right
now,
just
take
me
back
to
june,
but
solana's
real,
chill
vibes
so
yeah,
I
just
think
scalability
and
and
being
intentional
about
onboarding
and
being
real
about
it,
because
not
every
artist
is
ready
for
web3,
but
there
are.
There
are
ways
that
you
can
get
people
used
to
it
and
it
doesn't
have
to
start
with
ethereum
and
yeah.
That's
that's
just
what
I've
been
thinking
about.
B
I
was
usually,
I
always
usually
tell
people
my
biggest
challenge
in
web.
3
is
just
keeping
up
with
everything
that's
happening
in
web3.
Everything
just
moves
so
fast
and
besides,
like
the
actual
like
I
don't
just
the
artists
move
faster.
I
feel
like
for
a
lot
of
artists.
We've
been
sort
of
waiting
for
a
moment
like
this
or
for
an
industry
like
this,
for
a
break
like
this
and
we're
kind
of
going
full
steam
ahead.
B
So
my
biggest
challenge
is
usually
keeping
up
followed
by
that
my
biggest
challenge
would
be,
I
would
just
say,
like
the
maintaining
your
mental
health
through
through
creating
through
just
the
year.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
how
to.
I
don't
know
how
to
confine
what
I'm
saying
through
or
whatever,
but
just
I've
been
in
nfts
for
a
year.
It
just
feels
sort
of
like
a
never-ending
hallway
right
and
it
just
so.
That's
why
I'm
saying
like
I
don't
know
how
to
contain
like
I
don't.
B
I
can't
tell
you,
through
this
project
that
you're
working
on
or
through
this
month
or
whatever,
but
just
like
for
me,
like
fully
diving
in
as
an
artist,
because
I
stopped
doing
all
client
work
fully
diving
in
as
an
artist
you're,
really
subjecting
yourself
to
like
the
depths
of
your
mind
and
like
where
you
can
go,
and
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
artists
sort
of
grapple
with
that,
like
that
tormented
artist
idea
but
like
it
can
be
very
real,
like
when
you're
like
forcing
yourself
like
you're,
giving
your
all
to
a
project
and
like
you're,
trying
to
convey
a
theme,
a
story,
an
idea
like
it's
very
easy
to
get
lost
in
that
and
wrapped
up
in
that
and
like
there's
just
been
projects
where,
like
I've,
just
completely
felt
like
I've,
just
like
kind
of
like
lost.
B
My
orientation,
like
my
speech,
gets
different.
I'm
like
popping
out
on
the
timeline
less
or
more
frequently
or
like
just
crazier
like
I'm
living
in
my
office,
or
something
like
that
and,
like
I
don't
know
like
it's
really
fun,
sometimes
to
submit
yourself
to
like
the
art
of
it.
All.
But
like
be
aware
of
how
dangerous
that
can
also
be
like
just
maintaining
you
know,
a
level
head.
D
Word
I
would
agree
with
that.
Keeping
your
wellness
is
really
really
important
in
this
space,
because
it
does
move
so
fast
and
there's
so
much
happening
with
so
many
people.
I
would
also
include
that
inclusivity
is
really
a
big
challenge
that
we're
working
through
in
the
space
and
that
is
on
different
levels.
Right,
it's
one
thing
to
say:
oh,
I
want
to
see
more
brown
or
black
people
in
a
space,
but
it's
another
thing
to
say:
I
want
to
see
more
brown
and
black
people
have
space
to
speak.
D
D
The
narrative
in
crypto
right
now
is,
very
you
know:
white
male
tech,
bro
and
it's
my
favorite
stories
from
crypto
are
from
other
sides
from
perspectives
that
you
know,
did
not
grow
up
in
crypto
or
did
not
grow
up
with
money
or
did
not
grow
up
in
art
even
but
found
this
being
a
place
that
they
could
find.
D
You
know
wellness
and
I'm
really
excited
for
us
to
grow
that
more
in
the
future,
and
so
we've
been
you
know,
building
out
different
things
that
could
really
do
that
create
safe
spaces
for
artists
and
make
them
feel
like
diversity
is
important
in
this
space
for
sure.
A
I
love
that
wow.
This
has
been
amazing.
I
think
we're
probably
at
time
now
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
wrap
it
up,
but
I
just
wanna
say
a
huge
thank
you
to
andre
stones,
latasha,
jeff
and
hard
for
joining
us
today.
You
guys
everyone
has
to
go,
follow
each
and
every
one
of
these
guys
on
twitter
they're,
incredible
if
you're
not
following
them
already.
Also
huge.
Thank
you
to
protocol
labs
file.
Coin.
Nft
storage.
Ipfs
really
grateful
to
be
here
to
be
chatting
with
you
all.