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A
A
I
am
extremely
excited
to
talk
to
you
three
because
you're
probably
some
of
my
favorite
people
in
this
space,
but
one
your
your
presentation
just
now
almost
answered
every
question
I
had
previously
written,
so
we
might
have
to
wing
it
a
little
bit
and
like
ask
a
couple
more,
I
feel
like
before
this
summit.
I
had
a
ton
of
questions
about
coordination
and
I
apologize.
B
Yeah,
can
you
all
hear
me?
Oh
there
we
go:
oh
wow,
okay,
so
a
public.
The
economic
definition
is
something
that's
non-excludable
in
non-rivalrous.
So
an
example
is
a
piece
of
open
source
software
gloria.
If
you
pull
it
down
onto
your
computer,
it's
non-rivalus
it
actually
like.
I
can
pull
down
on
my
computer
and
no
one
can
exclude
you
from
downloading
open
source
software
because
the
code's
available
for
free
online,
so
that's
a
digital
public,
good,
open
source
software,
but
we're
all
breathing
clean
air
in
a
livable
climate.
Those
things
are
public
goods.
B
Information
in
a
democracy
is
a
public
good.
There
are
many
public
goods
out
there,
and
you
know
this
is
opposed
to
private
goods
like
stuff.
You
can
get
on
amazon.com.
Where
like.
If
I
buy
a
a
dvd,
then
you
can't
get
it
because
it's
rivalrous,
and
so
that's
the
definition
of
public
goods
and
one
of
the
things
that
is
actually
really
interesting
about
digital
public
goods.
That
I'll
just
say
before
I
hand
it
back
to
you
is
some
of
them
are
anti-rivalrous,
so
open
source
software,
for
example,
gets
better
the
more
people
download
it.
B
A
C
Yeah
absolutely-
and
I
think
part
of
that
comes
to
this
planetary
boundaries
framework
which
juan
was
talking
about,
and
I
touched
on
earlier.
You
know
it's
not
just
emissions
and
the
climate
right.
There
are
these
eight
categories
of
variables
that
scientists
have
defined
as
saying
okay.
If
these
variables
are
within
a
safe
range,
then
the
ecosystem
that
the
planet
we
live
on
is
is
stable
right.
These
are
things
like
fresh
water
use.
These
are
things
like
biodiversity.
C
C
But
so
I
think
you
know
part
of
where
we
can
have
tremendous
impact
is
to
come
up
with
ways
like
juan
was
talking
about
build
the
basis
for
impact
evaluators
and
build
the
impact
evaluators
themselves
in
order
to
understand
where
those
variables
are
right
so
like.
How
can
we
measure
biodiversity?
How
can
we
measure
land
use?
How
can
we
measure
fresh
water?
A
Within
those
incentive
mechanisms,
too,
would
you
be
able
to
like
make
a
like
economic
systems
where
those
who
were
like
the
most
impacted
by
like
the
change
within
the
climates,
could
then
verify
the
differences
that
were
happening
in
their
communities
and
then
be
able
to
be
like
economically
rewarded
and
have
that
as
like
a
model
where
they
could
like
buy
into
the
benefit
of
the
system?
Then.
C
Yeah
100
and
like
some
of
some
of
the
most
exciting
you
know,
projects
in
the
space
are
things
like
the
regen
network
gain
forest
open
forest
protocol.
These
these
projects
that
are
taking
that
are
doing
exactly
that
right,
like
what
we
are
making
visible
to
the
project,
is
the
actual
like
on
the
ground
impact
right
and
you're
you're
connecting
these
incentive
structures
such
that
they
they
benefit
right.
Whoever
is
actually
like
living
near
this
plot
of
land
that
you
want
to
protect
right
and
like
really
really
doing
a
deep
dive
and
understanding.
C
D
If
you
go
in
to
any
kind
of
public
place
like
a
park
or
a
beach
or
something
and
you
you
have
to
account
for
the
fact
that
there
will
be
other
damage
and
so
on.
That
is
beyond
what
you're,
accounting
for
yourself
and
that
you're
not
going
to
get
perfect
participation.
So
you
have
to
build
structures
where
you
get
everybody
to
work
harder
together
to
both
improve
the
problem
really
quickly
to
try
and
on
one
way
we're
doing.
D
Let
the
people
like
that
know
it's
important
to
and
can
to
have
as
much
effect
as
possible,
while
we
kind
of
drag
every
everyone
else
on
board
later.
So
this,
of
course
calls
into
question
hey
what
about
like
free
writers
like
if,
if
some
group
gets
to
neutral
and
other
groups
are
not
then
like?
How
is
that
fair?
D
D
Don't
set
the
goal
at
zero,
set
the
goal
to
have
some
multiple
over
what
you
use
so
imagine
being
like
5x,
green
or
10x
green,
or
some
kind
of
multiple
like
that,
so
and
and
then
cause
a
competition
between
all
groups
to
have
as
high
of
a
multiple
as
you
can
and
and
a
high
total
right,
so
that
multiple
is
going
to
be
multiplied
by
your
actual
use.
And
then
it's
going
to
relate
to
some
actual
total
impact.
D
After
the
fact,
one
really
good
thing
is
that,
because
we're
tracking
all
of
this
information,
those
retroactive
rewards
are
possible,
and
so
it's
one
of
these
things
where,
like
you
know,
sometimes
people,
sometimes
I
go
through
and
like
donate
to
projects
after
they
happened
or
like
like
buying
art,
is
a
good
example
of
this,
like
you're,
giving
a
retroactive
reward
so
that
more
of
that
work
happens
like
buying
an
art
piece.
Is
a
way
of
saying:
I
really
value
this
art.
D
I
want
more
like
it
to
happen
and
I
want
to
reward
the
people
involved
in
both
its
production
and
stewarding
over
time
and
so
on.
So
think
of
like
ways
of
creating
those
those
retroactive
reward
structures
to
enable
that
kind
of
like
much
faster
activity
and
so
in
the
falcon
project
like
we
have
been
you
know
talking
about
this
was
like
hey.
D
First,
let's
get
to
to
zero
across
the
entire
system,
so
not
just
the
energy
use,
but
also
later
on,
like
the
hardware
development,
like
hardware,
is
a
huge
part
of
like
the
the
yeah.
You
taught
me
about
this.
The
hardware
is
a
huge
part
of
the
of
of
the
emission
rate
and
other
environmental
impacts,
like
you
know,
drawing
tons
of
like
minerals
from
grounds
and
like
bad
mind,
mining
facilities
and
all
kinds
of
like
problems.
D
A
Awesome
some
of
the
talks
that
I've
heard
this
whole
day
was
talking
about
like
the
tokenization
of
decarbonizing.
The
planet,
which
I
thought
was
a
really
good
application
for
blockchain,
but
I
feel
like
there's
even
more
that
blockchain
technology
can
do
and
kevin.
I
wanted
from
your
perspective,
like
what
are
other
opportunities
that
we
could
like
inject
into
the
sustainability
space,
where
blockchain
could
be
used
for
something
else
that
would
be
impactful.
B
Yeah,
well,
I
mean,
I
think
the
answer
is
quadratic
funding.
Obviously
it
always
is
yeah,
which
is
actually
not
my
idea.
It's
vitalik
and
glenn's
we're
just
implementing
it.
I
mean,
I
think,
that
you
know
the
fruitful
space
that
I
see
here
is
that
we've
got
these
global
coordination
failures
and
we've
got
this
global
coordination,
substrate
that
is
ethereum,
and
so
what
properties
does
the
substrate
have
it's
transparent,
which
means
that
we
have
the
same
access
that,
like
the
fed
board,
does
it's
open
source,
which
means
that
we
can?
B
B
That
can
replace
entire
institutions
that
used
to
need
to
have
budgets
of
millions
of
euros
per
year
and
and
that's
like
kind
of
the
design
space
and
we're
in
this
primary
primordial
soup
of
like
a
cambrian
explosion
of
of
different
things
that
are
going
to
be
experimenting
in
in
that,
and
so
for
me.
I
think
about
you
know,
like
the
biological
metaphor
of
like
a
cambrian
explosion
of
of
things
growing
in
different
directions
and-
and
you
have
some
things
that
are
like
that
are
like
the
like.
B
You're
gonna
have
some
things
that
just
like
grow
and
they
collapse
like
like,
like
three
hours
capital
or
like
ust,
or
something
like
they're,
just
like
cancers
that
are
just
focused
on
growth
and
then
they
they
like
die
because
they
consume
their
hosts.
Then
they
implode.
And
then
so,
if
you
look
at
this
in,
like
a
biological
systems,
metaphor
like
we're
going
to
evolve
past
these
epochs
of
these
collapses
and
that's
going
to
filter
out
the
projects
that
aren't
going
to
make
it.
And
then
the
next
projects
will
inform
the
next
form
of
evolution.
B
I
think
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
like
evolve
forward.
These
cryptoeconomic
systems,
until
we
get
to
the
equivalent
of
like
mammals
or
mycel
networks,
or
you
know
stuff
like
that,
and
so
I,
like
speedrunning,
that
evolution
is
what's
really
kind
of
where,
where
where
I
think
it
is
cool,
and
so
I
really
like
I,
I
really
like
the
idea
that
the
the
one
actually
learned
this
from
your
talk
right
now
is
the
the
impact
evaluators.
B
Is
that,
basically,
you
can
create
a
plurality
of
mechanisms
that
evaluate
the
impact
and
there
there
can
be
like
a
market,
a
marketplace
of
them
and
we
can
speedrun
that
evolution
faster
because
we're
building
a
crypto
economic
force
to
reward
people
who
are
having
impact
on
the
world
and
and
it's
relative
to
local
values.
Not
like
you
know
me
as
this
like
person
from
from
colorado
like
it,
should
be
local
to
the
like
everyday
communities,
values
and
speedrunning.
B
That
evolution
is
really
is
really,
I
think,
an
important
thing,
and
what
I'm
trying
to
do
to
accelerate
the
that
evolution
is.
I
would
really
like
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
mimetic
shelling
points
that
to
help
the
capital
markets
and
the
talent
understand
that.
There's
going
to
be
a
capital
and
talent
rotation
into
projects
that
have
object
level
impact
in
the
next
cycle,
and
it
won't
be
projects
that
had
the
best
ponzi
moments
in
the
last
cycle,
so
let's
front
run
that
by
start
channeling
capital
and
talent
into
regen
projects
over
the
next.
B
C
Please
do
yeah,
I
mean
one
of
the
things
right
you're
talking
about
how
the
the
projects
that
you
know
create
the
most
value
in
this
sense
right
are
going
to
be
the
projects
that
that
do
the
best,
especially
in
an
economic
downturn,
lucia
from
the
eternals
nft
project
was
talking
about
exactly
that
that,
like
as
they
were
looking
at,
like
which
nfts
really
collapsed.
It's
it's.
You
know
the
the
nfts
that
are
connected
to
something
interesting
right
and
like
have
utility
that
that
do
the
best.
C
So
you
know
in
talking
about
tokenizing
carbon
right
and
sort
of
impact
certificates.
We
have
this
great
discussion
earlier
a
couple
hours
ago
about
you
know
all
of
these
all
these
amazing
projects
that
are
working
to
build
web
3
native
carbon
offsets
and
in
falcon
green.
We
think
a
lot
about
the
underlying
data
structures
that
are
going
to
be
necessary
for
all
of
this
and
then
also
a
lot
about
the
the
governance
right,
and
I
think
that
really
gets
your
your
question.
C
So
we
we're
not
opinionated
as
to
how
you
should
you
know,
structure
all
of
your
all
of
your
sort
of
incentives
to
do
with
offsets,
because
we
believe
a
ton
of
experiments
need
to
be
done
there
and
we're
really
inspired
by
everything.
People
are
doing
in
that
space,
but
we
we
want
to
solidify
this
data
layer
right
so
that
you
can
compare
offsets
right.
That's
that's
what
we
want
well.
A
I
know
I
know
you
and
I
had
talked
about
this
before
and
if
you're
someone
who
like
for
me
was
had
no
clue
like
how
offsets
were
even
traced
or
like
stored.
Even
it
was
like
somewhat
frightening,
so
we
just
for
one
moment
go
over
the
whole
process
of
it,
because
I
think
it
shows
like
a
bottleneck
as
to
where
the
data
is
and
for
someone
who
really
likes
to
give
data
to
people,
so
they
can
build
upon
it
and
that
whole
current
solution
just
doesn't
seem
like
it
works
really
well.
C
C
They
have
a
bunch
of
experts
who
really
know
what
they're
doing
who
evaluate
methodologies,
and
then
those
methodologies
are
applied
to
projects
that
are
then
able
to
register
offsets
within
these
these
registries
right
and
so
then
those
those
offsets
are
what's
sold
to
these
end
users,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
these
these.
You
know
these
registries,
you
know,
have
done
a
lot
of
really
good
work
right
and
we're
sort
of
set
up
using
the
best
tools
that
they
they
could
at
the
time
they
were
set
up
right.
C
But
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
just
add
this.
This
sort
of
supercharged
offsets
with
this
sort
of
level
of
transparency
and
granularity
and
verifiability,
and
then
interoperability
right
that
you
just
like
fundamentally
cannot
get
with
web
one
and
web
two
systems
right
right
and
because
you're
you're,
when
you're
trying
to
figure
out
like
you,
buy
an
offset
you're
trying
to
figure
out
what
you
actually
bought.
You're
like
going
through
pdfs
that
are
in
all
these
different
languages
and
trying
to
figure
out
like
okay,
it's
a
nature-based
offset.
C
We
want
to
help
sort
of
solidify
that
and
allow
people
to
easily
store
data
in
schemas
that
are
interoperable,
so
that
you
can
figure
out
what
the
offset
actually
is
right.
And
so
then,
the
the
next
level
right
above
that
is
sort
of
governance
right,
which
is
like
okay.
We
we
have
some
notion
of
an
offset.
We
have
the
the
data
layer
in
place
right
then,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
make
claims
that
we
feel
good
about
as
a
community
right?
C
So
you
know
you
may
get
offsets
from
all
these
different
projects,
but
if
you
want
to
match
those
offsets
to
something,
how
do
you
do
that?
And
how
do
you
be
transparent
about
the
actual
process
of
doing
that
like
what
is
that
decision
making
process?
So
we
want
to
increase
the
velocity
of
experiments,
and
so,
if
you're
on
the
wi-fi
network
here,
hopefully
you
are,
I
think
the
password
is-
is
george
5
2017,
presumably
was
set
five
years
ago.
I
don't
know
so.
C
Sbs-Emissions
and
please
enter
their
what
your
transportation
information
was
to
get
here,
and
what
we're
going
to
do
with
that
information
is
we're
going
to
have
a
transparent
process
where
we
get
offsets
that
have
some
sort
of
sort
of
good
data
layer
associated
with
them
right
and
we
are
going
to
have
a
have
experts
likely
the
these
speakers
from
the
conference.
There's
a
there's,
a
github
repo
there.
C
If
you
have
ideas
on
how
we
should
you
know,
set
up
this
this,
this
governance
system-
please
you
know,
let
us
know
just
submit
a
pr
there.
Maybe
I
should
ask
you
how
to
how
to
set
this
up,
and
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
take
a
bunch
of
offsets,
we're
to
have
them
be
transparently
evaluated
as
to
the
the
permanence,
the
additionality.
C
You
know,
the
properties
that
you
want
in
offsets
and
then
we're
going
to
match
those
offsets
with
an
aggregated
carbon
accounting
of
the
the
emissions
due
to
transportation.
To
get
to
this
conference
right
and
the
goal
for
that
is
to
you
know,
just
do
an
experiment
right,
just
like
take
offsets
with
a
really
like
data
layer.
Take
some.
You
know
you're
talking
about
sprinkling
verifiability
into
existing
systems
right
and
to
be
transparent
about
the
evaluation
of
how
we
are
matching.
You
know
co2
due
to
transportation,
to
this
project.
A
Yeah,
I
think
thank
you
for
sharing
too.
By
the
way.
I
appreciate
that
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
am
most
impacted
from
from
the
talks
today
was
that
there
seems
to
be
like
an
area
of
focus
on
like
trying
to
find
the
perfect
number
sometimes
and
trying
to
find
the
perfect
vessel,
and
I
was
wondering
when
we
start
to
remove
perfectionism.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
fail
forward
in
a
way
that,
when
we
build
in
public
is
accessible
to
everybody
else
and
like
what
would
be?
A
What
would
be
the
benefit
if
we
all
start
to
like
use
public
goods
funding
to
public
some
to
fund
some
of
these
projects
that
are
giving
a
try?
So
I
know
that
we
just
had
the
hackathon
and
we'll
have
the
results
like
tomorrow
from
the
judging
process.
But
if
the
data
is
public,
what
can
we
do
like
to?
A
C
These,
like
massive,
non-transparent
intermediate
intermediaries
in
ways
that
you
just
like
fundamentally
could
not
before
right,
and
especially,
if
you
can,
you
know,
correlate
this
with
satellite
data.
That's
updated
every
two
weeks
and
like
see
like
this
thing
I
am
theoretically
protecting.
Is
it
actually
still
there
right
and
do
all
of
this
in
a
way
where
everything
is
content
addressed?
And
you
can
just
make
these
like
unambiguous
claims
and-
and
you
know
verify
them
over
time.
I
think,
like
that's,
that's
the
bedrock.
C
B
I
was
going
to
inject
their
I'm
a
big
fan
of
recursion
and
simplicity
and
as
you're
speaking,
what
I
was
kind
of
thinking
is
like
we're
trying
to
figure
out
which
impact
evaluator
is
the
best
impact
evaluator.
So
we
need
an
impact
evaluator
for
all
the
impact
evaluators
and
it's
impact
evaluators
all
the
way
down.
What
could
go
wrong
yeah,
but.
C
And
and
ultimately
it's
it's,
this,
it's
a
it's
a
network
in
which
each
impact
evaluator
is
generating
knowledge
at
like
a
different
abstraction
level.
Right,
and
so
it's
it's
like
you
know,
it's
a
it's
a
coordination
system
with
the
goal
of
generating
knowledge
about
like
how
to
solve
certain
types
of
problems.
A
A
We
talk
about
climate
and
climate
solutions,
with
our
pain
point
being
like
in
six
years,
we're
going
to
hope
to
get
to
x,
y
and
z
and
whatnot,
and
I
did
watch
your
peritopia
talk
like
a
lot
of
times,
and
it
was
talking
about
how,
with
our
blockchain
technology
like
we
can
get
to
things
a
lot
quicker,
and
so
my
hope
is.
Can
we
start
to
build
solutions
where,
like
this
time
next
year,
we
can
see
some
type
of
impacts
and
what
would
those
solutions
have
to
look
like.
D
One
idea
here
is
just
the
experiment,
like
the
one
island
just
mentioned
about
this
event
is
like,
if
you
haven't
already
gone
to
that
attendanceurl.com
sbs
missions-
I
just
did
it,
took
me
like
one
minute.
This
is
really
cool,
let's,
let's
kind
of
start,
putting
the
like
an
impact
meter
around
offsetting
and
not
just
upsetting
to
neutral,
but
like
net
green
on
events
and
create
like
a
little
ui
widget
that
you
can
like
some
image.
D
D
Suddenly
everything
is
way
harder,
and
so,
as
you
start
scaling,
you
need
a
lot
of
support,
structures
and
systems,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
have
a
lot
of
impact
with
is
right
now
as
we're
having
hackathons
for
builders
in
in
in
green
tech.
Think
of
how
to
support
those
groups
and
the
people
and
organizations
involved-
and
let's
start
thinking
about
like
let's
first
instrument
like
who
are
all
the
projects.
What
scale
are
they
at?
What
do
they
need?
D
D
Give
back
to
get
going
the
next
rounds
like
as
soon
as
you're,
able
give
back
to
the
whole
system
so
that
other
projects
can
can
get
built,
and
so
that
you
can
benefit
from
it
retroactively
right,
like
somebody
else
like
sort
of
pay
it
forward
in
with
a
multiple
and
the.
So
I
think
like
something
we
can
do
to
have
impact
right.
D
Now
is
just
let's
instrument
that
pipeline
now
and
just
have
it
as
a
goal
for
next
year
that
we
at
least
know
what
the
projects
are,
what
they're
doing
and
what
they
need.
Let's
just
start
there
have
that
and
then
from
there
we
can
figure
out
how
to
support
them,
how
to
build
structures
to
to
help
them
scale,
and
so
on.
A
Yeah,
the
last
bit
of
this
question
for
me,
is
that
you
know
the
earth.
If
the
planet
is
a
public
good
and,
like
you
said,
we
have
the
builders
of
the
hackathons
that
need
it.
We
have
the
funders.
We
have
the
validators,
it
seems,
like
everybody
has
a
play
that
has
to
be
happening
in
order
for
us
to
get
to
this
utopia
that
we
all
want
to
drive
towards.
So
I
wanted
to
know
like
who
else
do
we
see
not
only
come
to
the
conversation
but
like?
A
How
can
we
also
better
talk
to
each
other
about
this
topic
and
not
be
not
antagonistic,
but
also
knowing
like
that
people
have
an
actual
source
of
truth
and
listening
to
their
source
of
truth
and
coming
together
and
like
coming
together
to
build
a
cause?
So
what
needs
to
happen
in
order
for
that?
Little
impact
shelling
points
to
to
happen.
C
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
a
ton
of
it
is
remembering
that
we're
all
you
know
on
the
same
side
right
trying
to
trying
to
bring
the
same
like
type
of
change
into
the
world
right-
and
you
know
that
goes
within
the
the
environmental
web
three
space
and
also
the
the
broader
web
three
space
right
like
we're.
Still
we're
still
small-
and
you
know
our
competitors
is
the
rest
of
the
world,
the
competitor,
our
competitor
and
us
yeah.
A
Totally-
and
I
also
think
like
you
know,
we
are
web
3
and
we
can
be
very
like
narrow,
focused,
but
we
have
to
bring
in
like
d
science
and
all
these
other
stuff
to
actually
help
us
out
a
lot
too.
So
I
want
to
open
the
floor
up
to
anyone
else
who
had
questions
so
that
we
can
start
to
get
some
of
them.
I
see
I
see
a
couple
questions
in
there,
yeah
jonathan,
if
you
want
to
throw
it
there
and
then
they're
in
the
middle
there's
one
too.
A
E
Hello
hi
guys
it's
max
song
from
carbon
base
and
also
sps
system
bitcoin
standard.
One
thing
that
really
inspires
me
from
huan's
talk
is
actually
the
idea
that
we
can
organize
kind
of
global
governance
systems
that
are
self
independent
of
maybe
the
existing
kind
of
slow
hierarchy,
and
so
in
reference
to
biology's.
You
know
recent
network
state
can
we
actually
create
a
refined
nation,
can
create
a
refination
where
individual
plaza
land
are
attributed
right?
We
sort
of
give
carbon
credit
recognition
or
renewable
energy
impact
certification
to
this
piece
of
land.
E
That
money
is
then
used
to
finance
the
building
of
refination
right
and
actually
eventually,
the
uptakers
are
all
the
bigger
companies
are
looking
to.
Actually,
you
know
clean
up
their
sins
or
you
know
you
know
clean
up
their
footprint,
but
this
actually
starts
having
a
positive
feedback
loop
where
you
actually
have
more
and
more
places
of
land,
actually
you're
able
to
independently
access
right,
the
sort
of
global
refi
movement
without
having
to
wait
for
recognition,
and
such
only
give
you
a
very
concrete
story.
E
There's
a
small
country
in
suriname,
south
america
they've
been
trying
to
get
carbon
credits
for
their
standing
forest
for
20
years
right.
They
absorb
negative
physically
20
million
tons,
and
the
guy
has
been
representing
himself
at
the
u.n,
unable
to
secure
financing
for
his
country
and
and
and
result
they've
had
to
resort
to
cutting
down
their
forest
in
order
to
make
ends
meet.
E
So
this
is
the
best
perfect
test
case
for
refination
right
here
right,
there's,
a
system
that
is
currently
inadequate
in
addressing
the
actual
physical
drawdown,
co2
and
and
they're
small
enough
that
actually,
they
can
easily
onboard
so
I'll.
Leave
that
as
an
open
thought
experiment
for
maybe
next
time
we
get
together.
For
this
thanks.
A
F
We
have
thought
of
doing
also
that
bit,
but
when
you
get
down
to
the
details,
how
do
you
incentivize
people
are
the
people
that
have
the
expertise
to
verify
like
attune
to
the
mechanics
of
our
space
and
the
lingo,
and
all
that
or
do
they
even
want
to
get
into
this?
So
there's
a
many
complexities
in
it's
an
awesome
idea,
but
coordinating
with
might
take
longer
than
we
expect.
F
So
I
wonder
if
we
have
to
choose
like
outcomes,
raiser
20
of
the
effort
that
does
the
80
of
the
results,
for
you
guys
what?
What
would
that
be?
What,
besides,
funding
and
aggregating
us
here,
which
is
awesome?
Congratulations
to
you
guys
for
putting
a
lot
of
minds
in
the
space
a
huge
round
of
applause
to
to
the
organizers.
F
D
A
D
You
talk
about
the
issues
you
talk
about.
What's
what
are
the
root
causes
of
the
problems?
You
talk
about
potential
solutions
and
you
try
to
explore
the
design
space
and
then
you
make
you
coordinate
towards
some
action,
whether
as
a
whole
group
or
in
subsets
or
even
individual
actions,
sometimes
like
the
benefit
of
bringing
group
together
is
realizing
like
hey.
Actually,
you
disagree.
D
D
D
D
Up
until
that
created
the
grounds
for
the
open
source
movement
that
then
very
pragmatically
unified
a
bunch
of
communities
into
into
a
super
super
scalable
system,
so
I
think,
like
think
of
movement,
building,
think
of
joining
and
participating
in
movements
just
resonating
with
ideas
propagating
memes
working
on
projects
helping
each
other.
All
of
those
things
go
a
long
way.
C
G
It's
a
quick
one
anyway,
I
just
heard
kevin
talking
about
the
impact
evaluators
being
turtles,
all
the
way
down
I.e.
You
need
an
impact
evaluator
for
an
impact
evaluator
and
then
the
complexity
explodes
basically,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
thought
about
stuff,
like
state
box
and
applied
category
theory
in
order
to
limit
the
complexity
growing
beyond
beyond
well
yeah,
what's
necessary.
B
B
The
funds
from
the
matching
pool
are
allocated
according
to
what
the
crowd
wants
to
fund
and
so
basically,
the
quad.
The
way
quadratic
funding
works
is
that
we're
building
a
channel
for
greater
combinations
of
strength
and
intelligence
to
come
together
and
and
it's
like
when
each
bitcoin
grant
is
funded
through
quadratic
funding,
that's
kind
of
our
approach
to
an
impact
evaluator
for
impact
owls.
C
Well-
and
I
think
recursion
causes
which
I
think
you
were
getting,
that
is
like
recursion
causes
complexity,
but
it
also
like
gives
you
turn
complete
power
right.
It's
like
it's
about
like
having
a
having
a
super
general
computing
substrate,
because
you
can
go
multiple
like
levels
up,
but
thank
you
for
saying
the
magic
words
category
theory.
They
always
make
me
happy.