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A
An
open
call
from
an
urban
planning
school
from
ukraine
was
asking
for
projects
that
could
bring
new
development
tools
to
regions
in
post-soviet
countries,
and
then
we
found
this
very
tiny
little
region
in
transnistria,
that
is,
between
moldova
and
ukraine,
and
has
a
lot
of
specific
relations.
So
here
you
can
see
all
those
white
lines
are
gas
pipes
controlled
by
russia,
and
also
this
region
is
very
controlled
by
russian
and
political
political
issues,
and
why
transnistra
what
this
is
related
to
this
conference?
A
A
They
created
a
law,
a
blockchain
law
that
created
a
free
zone
for
blockchain
mining.
So
this
combination
of
cheap
energy
and
regulations
brought
a
lot
of
minors
to
this
region,
but
this
region
also
had
a
very
specific
topic.
So
I
started
to
research
on
bitcoin
brazil.
This
group,
that
has
160
000
members-
and
I
ask
it
folks-
could
we
create
a
real
farm
inside
a
bitcoin
mining
farm
and
then
rafaela
romano
came
and
said?
Oh,
my
god.
This
is
insane
I
never
saw,
but
we
are
going
to
find
it.
So
she
came
with
creep.
A
Tomatoes
and
tomatoes
were
those
guys
that
were
combining
bitcoin
mining
and
agriculture,
and
we
said
okay,
let's
try
this
in
transinister.
So
why
also
agriculture
is
important,
because
this
this
soil
in
transgenicity
is
very
good
for
planting
and
people
don't
have
much
opportunities
there.
So
all
the
people
leave
and
we
thought
okay.
This
is
a
nice
combination
to
bring
bitcoin
and
the
new
generation
of
digital
assets
for
development
tools.
Here
in
this
specific
region
that
has
a
lot
of
control
of
russian
power
as
well,
and
here
it
comes
our
first
stream.
A
A
They
know
the
importance
about
elon
musk
tweet
about
tesla,
do
not
accepting
bitcoin
as
a
payment
too,
because
of
fossil
fuel
consumption
and
also
the
energy
consumption,
and
this
was
very
important,
because
this
was
an
inflation
point
for
all
the
discussions
about
sustainability
and
bitcoin,
and
after
that,
the
right
day,
bitcoin
lost
10k
in
market
price
and
all
the
blockchains
started
to
try
to
solve
the
problem
of
energy
inside
bitcoin
and
from
there
we
started
to
map
and
to
develop
methodologies
to
understand
those
tools
that
are
combining
impact
and
sustainability
with
blockchain.
A
So
we
started
with
a
relation
of
380
around
protocols
that
are
using
blockchain
technology
for
impact
as
a
similar
proposition
to
transnistria.
Then
we
started
categorizing
it
as
research,
managing
energy,
also
sustainable
mining
and
some
tools
for
social
good
right.
So
this
is
something
that
we
can
see
now
and
we
are
doing
this
this
research
since
three
years
from
now,
and
we
started
to
see
also
some
problems,
so
look
for
protocols
that
are
solving
real
problems.
A
It's
like
looking
for
an
idol
in
a
haystack,
it's
very
complex
and
a
lot
of
the
cryptocurrencies
that
are
in
the
top
market.
They
have
no
real
value
or
they
are
far
away
to
achieve
the
roadmap
that
they
aim
for
and
also
impact
protocols.
Sometimes
they
start
from
the
technology
and
have
impact
far
away
in
the
roadmap
as
well.
A
So
we
start
thinking
what,
if
we
put
impact
on
the
front
right,
choosing
operative
companies
that
have
impact
as
a
model
and
help
them
to
scale
through
crypto
instead
of
doing
the
opposite,
then
we
started
really
looking
for
real
assets
with
characteristics
that
are
similar
to
bitcoin
as
well.
So
they
are
scarce.
They
are
very
hard
to
produce
and
create
and
they
become
a
very
important
digital
asset
for
everyone
like
water,
carbon,
forest,
electronic
waste.
Also
biodiverse
habitats
and
a
lot
of
incentives
to
solve
global
problems.
A
Why
not
blockchain
and
crypto
could
be
in
the
back
and
impact
in
the
front.
So
if
you're
talking
about
d5
mileage,
why
not
refi
mallet
right?
We
can
discuss
about
this
later,
so
we
started
to
build
metaverse
in
the
forests,
also
tokenize
e-waste,
to
achieve
recycling
goals
and
to
design
crypto
territories
of
the
future
in
far
away
distant
islands,
and
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
are
working
on
right
now
and
we
are
building
then,
but
we
still
have
a
lot
of
questions
to
answer
and
we
have
this
identified
this
trilemma.
A
So
the
sector
people
say
that
the
sector,
the
crypto
sector,
only
works
when
market
are
bullish
and
hyped,
and
also
there
is
a
huge
correlation
problem
that
crypto
currencies
are
very
volatile,
and
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
start
looking
on.
If
you
want
to
work
with
rio,
sustainable
assets
also
web3,
metaverse
and
crypto
are
just
speculation
that
have
no
value
and
mdfts
bitcoins
and
cryptocurrency.
They
are
bad
for
the
environment,
so
how
we
can
deal
with
that.
A
We
start
to
think
what,
if
we
can
have
antisecular
assets
with
consolidated
markets
established
buyers
as
we
have
for
carbon.
We
have
companies
that
need
to
offset
waste.
We
need
companies,
we
have
companies
that
have
a
specific
demand
for
this
type
of
asset,
so
we
can
try
to
work
on
a
decoration
for
those
assets
also,
why
not
to
focus
on
land,
forests,
rivers
with
real
impact
in
the
front
and
leveraging
impactful
solution
by
turning
negative
externalities
into
positivist
analysis.
I
think
this
is
all
about
regeneration
and
we
identify
as
well
strong
bias.
A
So
people
say
that
dj
traders,
they
love
risk
they
pump
and
dump,
and
they
are
playing
just
for
short
time
goals,
but
also
re-fi
people.
They
say
that
we
are
working
just
with
ideology
and
we
are
hipping
hugger
trees.
This
is
not
nice.
I
mean
we
passed
this
through
every
time
and
we
started
questioning
again.
Can
investing
in
the
planet
be
a
lucrative
endeavor
or
how
connections
to
renew
the
planet
while
investing
be
more
lucrative
in
the
near
and
the
long
term,
providing
speculation
and
alpha
for
legions
and
sustainable
finance
too
for
regions?
Why
not?
A
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
catalyze
risk
and
incentive
in
a
refi
framework?
Also
house,
we
can
how
we
can
use
the
instruments
to
generate
resources
for
the
planet.
Regenerations
can
those
folks
causes.
This
is
an
important
question,
and
here
I
bring
the
question
why
brazilian
it's
a
perfect
place
for
those
people
to
match
natural
capital
is
our
strange,
a
lot
of
the
protocols
that
are
also
working
with
carbon.
This
carbon
is
originating
on
our
forests
and
brazil.
A
Specifically,
we
have
60
of
the
territory
cover
by
forest,
which
correspond
for
500
million
of
hectares
with
67
national
forests,
and
we
are
in
the
place
of
the
second
biggest
area
in
forest
in
the
world,
with
a
potential
to
offset
80
million
to
1
billion
of
tons
of
co2
by
2030,
with
of
the
potential
to
generate
as
well
around
100
billion
in
revenue.
A
But
we
are
also
degens.
We
love
alpha
right.
We
are
the
five
fifth
largest
crypto
community
in
the
world,
and
I'm
just
talking
about
brazil
and
not
just
about
digits,
but
also
the
stock
exchange
is
very
welcoming
our
sac.
Our
cvm
is
coming
and
bringing
traditional
finance
instruments
into
regulations,
and
also
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of
etfs
to
come,
securitizers
to
come
and
to
tokenize
securities,
which
is
very
hard
to
work
in
the
international
environment.
A
Why
not?
Why
not
to
use
digents?
Where
is
the
money
to
bring
refi
to
scale
right,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
positivity
as
well
related
to
crypto
are
investing
60
of
us.
We
like
crypto,
and
also
we
are
in
the
10th
place.
Also,
we
have
tons
of
social
media
users
with
eighty
percent
of
our
population
in
brazil
that
are
already
using
facebook,
instagram,
tick,
tock
and
so
on.
A
That's
why
we
are
working
on
an
impact,
token
basket,
to
bring
inflation
and
inflation,
to
bring
liquidity
to
the
market
and
to
use
traditional
finance
instruments,
as
well
as
a
way
for
us
to
put
to
invest
in
tokens
and
in
tokens
with
impact,
and
we
are
doing
that
with
people
that
are
already
sitting
here
that
we
can
see.
A
So
this
is
one
exercise
that
we
did
with
refi
dao
cello
and
prime
dao
and
prime
dao
has
a
methodology
to
evaluate
protocols,
and
this
exercise
was
to
create
a
methodology
to
evaluate
refi
protocols,
and
then
the
380
projects
became
at
least
curated
list
of
25
projects,
on
which
we
also
helped
to
design
the
metal
methodology
to
evaluate
this
protocol
and
how
it
works.
And
from
that
this
is
a
very
nice
mvp.
So
we
could
see
how
the
protocols
work
in
many
terms,
because
we
have
methodologies
to
evaluate
impact.
A
We
have
methodologies
to
evaluate
defy
protocols,
but
we
still
don't
have
methodologies
to
evaluate
the
impact
of
refi
protocols,
and
then
this
was
a
very
nice
start,
so
you
can
see
how
so
many
projects
that
are
present
in
this
conference
today,
and
this
can
now
help
us
also
to
understand
what
is
the
real
impact
that
is
being
generated,
but
also
analyzing,
tokenomics,
analyzing,
traction
and
analyzing
as
well.
What
is
happening
in
this
specific
market
and
ta-da?
A
This
is
a
surprise
for
the
folks
here
we,
the
380
projects,
became
more
than
500
impact
projects
mapped,
and
we
are
working
here
with
john
with
cyrus
in
a
very
nice
exercise,
to
bring
coordination
to
refi.
So
we
started
also
to
combine
everyone
that
is
mapping
impactdows
everyone
that
is
mapping
impact
protocols
to
bring
this
to
a
coordination
level,
and
here,
with
this
qr
code,
you
can
also
help
us
to
map
the
projects
that
are
still
not
there.
A
So
we
have
a
form
if
you
know
someone
that
is
working
on
a
very
interesting
thing
that
we
did
not
find
yet.
Please
help
us
to
to
find,
and
also
if
you
specifically,
are
working
in
something
please
help
us
to
bring
this
directory
to
scale
and
also
we
are
working
on
a
positive
index
with
mercado
bitcoin
mercado
bitcoin
is
one
of
the
biggest
exchanges
in
brazil
and
we
are
working
together
with
them
with
idazan.
Idesan
is
the
institute
for
sustainable
development
in
the
amazon
rainforest,
and
they
are
one
of
the
most
established
com
institutions.
A
Working
in
this
specific
region
also
knows
that
I
have
vietnamese,
I'm
a
big
fan
and
they
are
working
with
communities
to
bring
social
action
to
climate
action
together.
This
is
something
that
we
face
a
lot
of
difficulty
in
brazil,
because
climate
cannot
come
in
the
front
when
you
don't
have
a
structure
to
recycle
or
when
you
don't
have
food
to
it.
So
it's
very
important
to
correlate
social
impact
with
climate
impact,
and
we
are
doing
this
together.
A
So
with
the
positive
index,
the
idea
is
also
to
create
products
that
people
can
invest
in
tokens
that
have
also
impact
and
more
so,
if
you're,
working
as
also
in
projects
that
are
related
to
impact
or
two
are
related
to
the
coordination
in
reef
in
refi
and
defy.
We
are
here
as
well
to
build
with
you,
I'm
paola
palermo.
I
am
an
entrepreneur
web
2
and
web
3
investor.
A
So
halfa
is
the
person
that
said
we
are
going
to
find
the
farmers
that
are
mining
bitcoin
as
well,
and
she
is
the
former
chef
chief
editor
in
car
in
telegraph
in
brazil,
and
she
is
one
of
the
most
the
50
most
influential
people
in
the
crypto
market
in
brazil.
Also,
we
have
juan
juan
is
a
lawyer
he's
helping
us
to
match
regulations
with
crypto
with
our
climate
action
and
he's
very
specialized
on
that
ryan?
A
Is
our
climate
architect
ryan's
bringing
a
lot
of
discussions
in
the
table
regarding
to
if
we
have
a
regenerative
future,
we
cannot
design
protocols
that
are
based
on
scarcity
right.
What
if
we
can
deal
with
elasticity
instead,
can
we
have
a
sustainable
speculation
model?
Can
we
create
derivatives
for
water,
for
credits
that
are
tokenized?
Can
we
use
those
instruments
as
well
to
bring
liquidity
to
those
specific
markets?
A
So
those
are
the
questions
that
we
are
working
together
and
we
have
a
fantastic
team
of
advisors,
so
swelling
she's
working
in
many
years
in
the
amazon
rainforest
and
she
has
a
phd
in
sustainability
and
entrepreneurship
leo
is
our
vc,
crazy
guy?
So
when
I
met
him-
and
I
told
him
look-
we
are
working
on
that.
He
said
I'm
in
and
he's
helping
us
to
find
the
right
model
to
bring
this
to
scale
victor.
A
I
say
that
he's
a
healthy
defy
legion
because
he
loves
alpha,
but
he
also
loves
our
sustainability
in
terms
of
finance
and
he
is
the
co-founder
of
secure
finance.
They
are
building
indexes
in
defy.
So
that's.
Why
he's
very
important
for
this
type
of
actions
that
we
are
trying
to
do
and
also
yeah
ea
is
a
professor
in
the
ohio
state
university.
He
has
a
phd
in
finance
and
he
is
also
specialized
in
asset
management
and
he
said
index
with
sustainability
with
crypto.
Let's
go
so.