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A
All
right,
I
just
want
to
send
a
big
thank
you
to
the
protocol
labs
team,
filecoin
team
for
throwing
a
great
event
super
exciting
to
be
here,
talk
about
refi
sustainability
and
all
the
great
work
that's
going
on
in
the
broader
ecosystem.
So,
as
mentioned,
I'm
wes
geisenberger,
I
helped
lead
the
fun.
But
I
have
some
great
team
members
here,
including
jonathan
rakoff,
who
helped
leads
our
government
and
policy
efforts
at
the
foundation
and
as
part
of
the
hbar
foundation.
A
We're
really
focused
on
sustainability,
and
you
know
some
of
you
may
have
seen
some
of
the
work
that
we've
done.
I
threw
up
a
couple
headlines
just
to
try
to
summarize
how
we're
spending
the
fun
that
we
announced
earlier
this
year
and
as
part
of
that,
it's
not
just
a
bunch
of
dollars
that
you
see
here
on
the
screen,
but
it's
actual
dollars
going
to
good
use
to
grow.
The
refi
movement,
grow
the
sustainability
movement
and
try
to
make
the
world
more
auditable.
A
So
we
actually
understand
how
we're
creating
missions,
how
we're
creating
new
types
of
carbon
sinks
or
better
proving
that
verified
emission
reductions
are
happening,
but
all
the
different
infrastructure
pieces
in
between
and
so
today,
maybe
to
get
started.
I'd
love
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
that
cycle
looks
like
from.
You
know
why
a
lot
of
folks
are
investing
in
the
in
this
area
in
sustainability.
A
Why
we
hear
esg
and
the
conversation
where
does
refi
fit
into
that
and
how
we're
investing
to
back
it
up
and
so
a
lot
of
times
it
starts
with
something
where
a
corporation,
individual
or
actor
says
we
have
some
type
of
emissions
reporting
we're
emitting
way
too
much
for
the
planet
more
than
we
can
handle
today,
and
what
we
need
to
do
is
invest
in
projects
that
are
gonna.
You
know
slow
our
emission
rate
improve
our
carbon
sinks,
so
we
get
a
healthier
planet
and,
of
course,
from
a
foundation
perspective.
A
We're
saying
well,
how
do
we
invest
in
these
critical
pieces
of
infrastructure
to
support
this
cycle,
whether
it's
forwards,
bonds,
futures
any
pre-money
in
the
finance
cycle
that
creates
auditable
projects
that
ultimately,
we
can
create
credits
from
that
are
discoverable
and
tradable,
but
ultimately
match
up
to
the
types
of
emissions
that
are
being
created
in
a
very
liquid
market,
but
still
yet
auditable
to
the
metric
ton
audible
to
the
mega
watt
hour
and
that
work
for
compliance,
reporting
and
disclosures?
A
And
so
what
it
looks
like
when
you
kind
of
bring
this
out
into
a
cycle?
Is
we
break
it
out
into
different
areas
of
project
funding?
Now
some
of
these
funding
sources
can
go
into
newer
types
of
models
that
we,
you
know,
we've
seen
whether
it's
nfts
as
a
fundraising
mechanism,
but
we
also
have
the
traditional
models
like
green
bonds,
sustainability,
linked
bonds,
carbon
forwards
that
are
being
brought
to
bear
in
traditional
markets.
A
And
ideally,
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
bring
these
on
chain.
In
a
way
that
we
can
understand
that
the
funding
going
to
the
projects
is
proportionally
fair,
that
the
validation
and
verification
bodies
aren't
just
coming
in
to
a
project
and
saying
well
as
part
of
this
I'll
do
the
validation
of
verification.
A
This
critical
infrastructure
and
we
created
a
tool
called
the
guardian
to
help
anyone
who's
creating
any
type
of
credit
and
wants
to
map
a
methodology
with
auditable
roles
and
actors
through
a
tool
that
anyone
can
access
today
on
the
hashgraph,
github
call
the
guardian
and
start
to
build
a
policy
for
your
own
use
case
and
that
use
case
can
go
in
a
bunch
of
different
areas
and
methodologies
that
we're
actively
investing
in,
and
so
the
areas
you
see
in
green
are
areas
where
we've
already
made
investments
or
in
the
in
the
bright
green
are
the
areas
where
we're
already
have
made
investments,
but
the
other
areas
are
soon
to
be
invested
in.
A
You
know
whether
it's
new
types
of
technology
projects,
new
types
of
biodiversity
projects
where
there
may
be
even
folks,
building
on
hedera
today,
but
we
haven't
yet
made
an
active
investment
in
and
those
are
what
we
call
the
market
supply
and
this
dynamic.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
every
type
of
methodology
has
an
auditable,
audible
supply.
All
the
roles
and
actors
are
mapped
out
to
scientifically
verified
standards
that
we
can
ultimately
use
to
create
trusted
assets
on
hedera.
A
It
could
have
come
from
manual
data
entry
or
somewhere
in
between
such
as
drones,
satellites
or
any
other
format,
and
we
need
to
bring
that
that
load
of
data
onto
hedera
and
we
need
to
have
aggregators
who
can
support
that,
and
so
we've
made
active
investments
in
explorers
and
mirrors
some
that
will
be
announced
very
shortly
in
terms
of
being
able
to
aggregate
that
data,
understand
the
history
and
the
context
of
that
data
in
the
form
of
vcs
or
verified
credentials
and
decentralized
identifiers
that
can
be
read,
parsed
and
used
in
other
forms
of
marketplaces.
A
But
on
top
of
those
those
data
aggregation
points,
we
can
also
create
things
like
indexes
third-party
data
registries,
whether
it's
partnering
with
oracle
providers
or
looking
at
different
third-party
data
sources.
That
may
not
be
on
a
dlt
yet
today
and
building.
Ultimately,
what
we
look
for
is
a
data
library
to
not
just
understand
the
data
sources,
but
how
they
map
to
the
methodologies
in
a
fully
auditable
manner,
so
we
can
actually
build
reputations
on
even
the
non-web3
data
sources
that
are
out
there
and,
ultimately,
that
feeds
into
trading
right.
A
A
You
may
want
to
know
if
they've
accounted
for
soil
storage
or
what
type
of
data
capture
tools
they
used
and
that
all
should
be
part
of
the
trading
aspect
of
the
credit,
inform
the
value
based
on
the
data
depth,
as
well
as
the
individual
attributes,
and
so
the
arm
gives
us
ability
to
do
that.
Contextually
to
search
based
on
what
folks
in
the
esg
world
are
looking
for
to
buy
and
ultimately
do
that
in
a
way
that
it's
a
search
interface
with
completely
liquid
querying
on
those
assets
themselves.
A
And
so
that's
something
we're
excited
to
see.
Hopefully,
go
live
later
this
year
in
the
coming
months
and
that
feeds
into
what
we
call
the
market
demand
which
feeds
back
to
the
guardian,
where
we
get
granularly
traceable,
carbon
emissions,
tokens
which
work
very
similarly
to
our
carbon
offsets.
And
so
when
someone
is
a
big
corporate
emitter,
they
can
take
their
cope
scope,
1,
carbon
emissions
tokens
and
one
thing
I
do
want
to
promote
is
there's
some
really
great
for
folks
who
aren't
as
familiar
with
the
emissions
trading
side.
A
There's
some
really
great
standards
bodies
to
get
involved
in
one
of
them
is
the
interwork
alliance,
who
is
launching
a
carbon
emissions
task
force
to
define
what
scope
one
two
and
three
carbon
missions
tokens
look
like
and
on
hedera.
A
lot
of
folks
are
building
that
on
the
guardian
and
we'll
talk
about
a
couple
of
those
use
cases
later
when
it
comes
beyond
that.
A
We're
going
to
look
at
things
like
reporting,
so
why
folks
buy
it
so
just
going
back
to
that
entire
emissions,
reporting
cycle
emissions
and
disclosure
cycle,
but
ultimately
folks
are
investing
in
these
credits
because
they
want
to
meet
those
standards,
help
us
get
to
the
one
and
a
half
degree
target.
Not
let
it
slip
to
two
and
they're
using
those
reporting
standards
to
do
so.
So
that's
kind
of
how
we're
looking
at
it
from
a
hedera
perspective.
A
The
guardian
ultimately
can
create
these
tokens
with
an
auditable
link
from
all
the
roles
and
actors
to
the
balance
itself.
You
can
hold
in
a
wall
just
like
you
would
for
any
token
on
hedera
and
that
can
be
traded
in
any
of
the
marketplaces
or
arms
and
anyone
can
interact
with
it
or
just
an
individual,
an
enterprise
or
a
government
agency
who
just
wants
to
see.
A
You
know
what
the
audit
trail
looks
like
on
a
given
on
a
given
asset,
and
so,
as
I
mentioned,
our
core
services
are
a
smart
contract
service,
a
consensus
service
and
a
token
service.
But
if
you
want
to
just
simplify
it,
hashgraph
is
the
consensus
mechanism.
It
feeds
into
the
state
balance
of
hedera
for
the
tokens.
A
That
means
when
we
want
to
pull
in
iot
data
points,
we
can
do
it
with
trust
at
the
edge
across
tens
of
thousands
of
devices
every
second,
but
in
practicality,
when
devices
are
reporting
every
five
minutes
and
15
minutes
that
scales
to
tens
of
millions
of
devices
in
the
real
world.
We
have
finality
within
three
to
five
seconds
and
we
can
do
it
with
very
low
fees,
so
the
average
cost
for
a
consensus
service
message
that
could
be
something
like
an
iot
sensor.
A
Saying
I've
created
x,
amount
of
kilowatt
hours
of
energy
is
100th
of
a
penny
and,
to
create
a
token
is
a
tenth
of
a
penny,
and
we
can
do
that
with
fairness
to
submit
to
any
node
on
the
network
with
fair
access
and
a
fair,
unique
timestamp
not
put
within
a
block
for
every
transaction.
That's
out
there,
and
so
this
maps
to
the
guardian,
as
I
showed
before,
but
for
folks
who
aren't
familiar
with
the
guardian,
it's
out
there
on
github
and
it
feeds
the
trusted
token
workflow
from
a
sensor.
A
It
doesn't
have
to
necessarily
be
from
a
sensor.
It
could
be
from
any
data
point,
but
ultimately,
you
can
think
of
the
guardian
as
a
digital
measurement,
reporting
and
verification
tool,
and
so
dmrv
is
one
of
the
big
areas
that
we
hear
folks
talking
about
in
refi
and
we're
really
bullish
on
it
at
hedera.
You
know
we're
big
fans
of
folks
in
the
community
like
refi
dao,
who
are
are
hosting
things
like
world
mrv
day
and
promoting
this
idea
that
we
need
more
auditability
in
the
space
and
with
the
guardian.
A
We
try
to
make
that
easy
so
that
anyone
can
pick
up
a
policy
or
a
methodology
and
in
a
few
weeks,
have
an
mvp
or
a
fully
featured
policy
working.
So
you
can
build
your
own
methodology
that
maps
the
roles
and
actors
for
your
specific,
your
specific
project,
and
so
whether
you
have
a
rec
project,
an
offset
project
or
a
conservation
project.
If
you
want
to
pull
a
standard,
that's
out
there,
maybe
it's
from
gold
standard
or
vera
or
irec.
A
The
idea
is
that
you
can
take
an
example,
and
we
have
both
examples
from
irec
and
vera
in
our
repo
today
that
you
can
work
with.
You
should
be
able
to
pull
that,
adjust
it
to
meet
the
scientific
standard
or
maybe
build
a
new
standard
that
doesn't
yet
exist
for
a
technology
solution
like
direct
air
capture.
So
you
can
mint
tokens
that
you
can
understand
the
attributes
from
whether
it's
I
want
to
know
exactly
how
the
baseline
was
calculated.
A
All
the
additionality
attributes
linked
to
the
divs
and
verifiable
credentials
in
the
guardian,
which,
ultimately,
when
I
retire
it,
I
can
prove
that
now.
Why
would
you?
Why
would
you
want
to
prove
that?
Well
because
of
so
many
challenges
that
your
credits
aren't
high
quality?
You
can
basically
see,
I
know
exactly
what
standard
standard
registry
or
root
authority
it
was
following
the
rules
from
maybe
I
want
to
know
who
the
validation
and
verification
body
was.
A
Maybe
I
don't
trust
them,
or
maybe
I
do
maybe
I
want
to
challenge
the
process
or
I
want
to
challenge
the
data,
but
ultimately
you
can
take
that
down,
and
this
is
a
simplified
slide
that
shows
kind
of
a
trust
chain,
as
we
call
it
of
three
different
three
different
roles
and
how
they're
related.
But
the
idea
is,
you
can
follow
that
chain
down
to
the
individual
device
and
how
that
device
was
certified.
A
How
that
individual
was
certified,
who
maybe
even
certified
the
device
and
how
they
follow
the
rules
from
that
registry
and
what
we
get
is
a
system
of
trust
linked
back
to
the
attribute
that
that
data
is
linked
to
and
what
it
looks
like
in
a
larger
framework
as
you'll
see
here
when
we
build
this
out
into
more
complexity,
is
you
can
have
somebody
create
a
policy?
It
could
be
a
university,
it
could
be
a
registry
like
vera
or
gold
standard,
and
you
can
say
well,
even
without
their
attestation.
A
I
can
build
a
specification
where
that
policy
is
implemented.
We
call
it
a
standard
registry
or
a
root
authority
where
that
policy
lives.
Now,
if
you
want
to
be
very
formal,
you
can
take
that
specification,
get
it
formally
verified
with
all
the
rules
from
an
auditor,
and
from
that
you,
you
can
lay
out
the
roles
and
actors.
So
first
party
data
could
be
something
like
a
sensor.
A
Going
back
to
our
you
know,
data
aggregators
is
those
different
points
and
the
roots
of
trust
that
come
from
them.
How
we
trust
those
attributes,
following
the
divs
and
verifiable
credentials
that
they
can
ultimately
query
trade?
They
can
even
retire
them
and
say
I've
retired
a
token
with
these
attributes
on
it
following
a
very
complex
digital
measurement,
reporting
and
verification
technology,
and
so
we
have
a
couple
examples
I
like
to
talk
about
and
maybe
a
more
more
simplified
way,
but
they
follow
those
complex
sets
of
rules.
One
of
them
was
our
first
grantee
named
dovu.
A
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
really
excited
about
that
dovu
has
been
working
on
is
they
can
actually
scale
down
to
as
small
as
a
two
and
a
half
hectare
farm
and
in
the
carbon
markets.
You
know
one
of
the
things
we
we
look
to
beyond
just
digitizing
these
at
these
methodologies
and
assets
that
come
from
the
methodologies
is
scaling
the
validation
and
verification
process.
A
There's
only
so
many
validation,
verification
bodies
in
the
world
and
with
dovoo
they've,
been
able
to
scale
beyond,
say
the
vera,
validation
of
verification
bodies
to
create
very
high
quality
credits,
and
so
their
last
batch
of
credits
came
from
this.
This
winery,
which
is
a
two
and
a
half
hectare
farm,
as
I
mentioned,
and
they
sold
them
for
93
dollars
us
dollars
a
metric
ton.
A
They
didn't
sell
very
many
of
them,
but
because
it's
a
small
farm,
but
they
proved
that
there's
a
possible
way
to
create
high
quality
credits
without
without
having
to
go
through
one
of
the
large
registries-
and
I
think,
that's
really
admirable
in
the
sense
that
we
need
to
show
a
model
to
the
world
where
not
just
27
parties
control
the
creation
of
80
plus
percent
of
the
voluntary
market.
But
we
need
to
be
able
to
create
a
world
where
you
scale,
validation
verification.
A
So
they
can
happen
in
your
backyard,
whether
that's
in
sub-saharan
africa,
anywhere
here
in
europe
or
north
america,
or
locally
within
a
specific
community
and
with
dovoo.
I
think
they've
shown
that
so
one
one
other
example,
though,
which
is
very
different,
is
a
verified
emission
reduction
use
case,
we're
doing
in
kenya,
with
a
group
called
temua
and
so
tamuwa.
A
They
produce
biomass,
briquettes.
It
comes
out
of
milling
of
sugarcane
and
what
they're
doing
is
they're,
creating
these
briquettes
that
are
focused
on
focus
on
collecting
and
protecting
the
environment
from
noxious
gases,
including
methane,
and
turning
that
into
a
process
where
you
create
a
high
caloric
value,
briquette
that
burns
more
efficiently
than
wood,
which
is
very
common
in
the
kenyan
tea
industry.
Canyon.
Tea
industry
is
a
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollar
industry
where
tea
is
creating
a
lot
of
different
greenhouse
gases,
and
what
tamu
has
done
is
they've
created
a
provable
method.
A
They've
actually
put
out
quite
a
few
reports
on
this
area
and
they'll
be
creating
credits
this
year
on
hedera
for
folks
who
are
interested
in
looking
more
more
into
it.
But
the
idea
behind
it
is
they
can
just
create
a
carbon
marketplace
for
the
region
called
sync
and
sync,
ultimately
enables
folks
to
get
access
to
their
credits,
but
it
also
works
with
folks
who
haven't
yet
created
dmrv
methods
that
they
can
ultimately
create
digitized
credits
in
the
region
as
well.
A
That's
avery
dennison,
it's
usually
a
red
logo
similar
to
the
one
you
see
here
and
they're,
actually,
the
world's
largest
rfid
manufacturer,
and
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
areas
that
we're
really
excited
to
partner
with
them
on
is
creating
scalable
carbon
emissions
and
going
back
to
that
circular
logo
that
I
started.
The
presentation
with
the
idea
is
we're
not
just
building
the
supply
side
of
the
market,
not
just
creating
credits,
but
we
also
need
to
have
granular
emissions
accounting.
A
Follow
the
model
in
the
guardian
to
create
trusted
tokens
to
ultimately
allow
people
to
report
better,
and
this
can
be
major
fortune,
500
companies
or
small
and
medium-sized
businesses.
But
the
idea
is,
we
can
get
granular
traceability
on
both
sides
of
the
market
and
improve
our
disclosures
and
methodologies
and
dmrv
systems
on
either
side.
And
so
that's
that's
really.
What
hedera?
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
promote
auditability
on
both
sides
of
the
market.
A
We
want
to
prove
it
not
just
in
the
environmental
side
of
the
methodology,
but
the
social
side
to
make
sure
folks
are
getting
paid,
that
they're
reporting
properly
and
making
sure
that
we're
paying
the
folks
who
are
doing
the
work
and
we're
built
doing
this
in
a
liquid
way.
That
doesn't
cause
a
lot
of
friction,
and
so,
as
as
we
go
to
take
the
next
steps,
we
encourage
you
all
to
engage
with
us
on
our
journey
towards
auditability,
discoverability
liquidity
and
see
you
know
see
where
we
can
help
you
and
how
we
can.
A
You
know
help
you
take
your
first
steps
on
the
journey
to
hedera.
We
have
a
large
fund.
We
encourage
everyone
to
apply
for
funding.
We
also
encourage
folks
to
get
started
just
working
with
the
open
source
code
on
things
like
the
guardian
and
we're
always
looking
for
active
contributors
and
with
that
I'll,
probably
open
it
up
to
questions
and
say.
Thank
you
all
for
having
me
so.