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A
B
C
Good
morning,
everyone
welcome
to
github
constellation
2022.
We
are
delighted
to
have
you
join
our
third
annual
github
india
event.
We
are
all
set
for
a
massive
celebration
of
the
global
developer
community,
especially
india.
My
name
is
dhanashree
and
joining
me
here
live
is
our
very
own.
Mohit
hey
good
morning.
D
Good
morning,
dhana
and
good
morning,
everyone-
I
am
super
super
super
excited
yes,
three
times
super,
because
this
is
the
third
github
india
event
here
in
india
to
celebrate
the
vibrant,
the
fab,
the
powerful
developer
community.
Here
in
india,
this
is
mohit
joining
you
all
from
del
valo,
ki
delhi.
A
warm
warm
welcome
to
github
constellation
2022
dhana.
Where
are
you
joining
us
from.
C
I'm
joining
you
all
from
the
city
of
gardens,
bengaluru,
I'm
a
business
development
manager
here
at
github,
and
I
work
closely
with
our
developer
community
across
startups
and
enterprises.
You
know
mohit.
I
love
working
here
because
of
our
keen
focus
on
developer
happiness
and
productivity.
Mohit.
Do
you
want
to
share
what
you
do
at
github.
D
As
they
say,
not
all
who
wander
are
lost,
but
yes,
you're
right
I
reached
just
last
evening
and
what
an
amazing
time
I
had
at
aruba,
where
I
met
a
bunch
of
other
herbers
and
their
families
if
it
was
after
a
long
long
time
that
we
had
such
an
in-person
connect.
To
be
honest,
my
heart
still
lies
there.
D
I
will,
I
will
tell
you
a
lot
more
about
it,
but
I
am
feeling
nostalgic
for
one
more
reason.
This
is
the
second
time
when
I'm
hosting
github
event,
and
last
year
I
hosted
this
event
with
divya
karan
anisha,
my
fabulous
co-host
and
we
had
a
blast.
We
played
holi,
we
played
a
little
dress
up.
It
represents
different
cultural
across
the
india
developer
community
and
had
a
fab
fab
time
now,
I'm
sure
this
year
as
well.
The
event
is
brighter
and
bigger.
Isn't
it.
C
C
C
D
C
Yeah
day,
three
is
all
about
github
for
education.
We
have
a
keynote
by
kunal,
shah
who's,
the
founder
of
cred,
and
you
will
meet
dhiraj
and
arkodyoti
from
our
education
team.
They'll
be
hosting
a
number
of
games
and
sessions.
What's
more,
we
will
be
joining.
You
live
featuring
four
hours
of
contents
every
single
day.
D
C
D
thomas,
holds
a
phd
in
mechanical
engineering
from
the
university
of
glasgow
uk
and
currently
he's
based
at
seattle
area
in
united
states
fun
fact
he
is
a
huge
lego
enthusiast.
He
loves
coding
and
making
his
github
contributions.
Graph
super
green
is
something
that
he's
always
focused
on.
So
with
that
thomas
take
it
away.
E
Hello,
everyone
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
this
week,
I'm
here
to
kick
off
our
third
annual
event
in
india,
github
constellation.
We
have
so
many
great
sessions
for
you
and
I
hope
you
enjoy
them.
I
want
to
share
three
stories
with
you
today,
one
about
open
source,
one
about
enterprise
and
one
about
education.
E
My
first
story
is
about
open
source
and
open
source
has
one
if
you
think
about
it.
Open
source
is
one
of
the
very
first
creator
communities.
We
often
think
about
creators
now
as
youtube
or
tick.
Tock
stars,
but
open
source
maintainers
have
been
the
stars
of
the
software
world
for
over
20
years,
and
I
want
to
introduce
you
to
a
creator
and
open
source.
His
name
is
karthik
aya
kathik
is
a
software
engineer,
jp
morgan
chase
and
he
credits
open
source
and
the
open
source
community
for
his
success
and
for
learning
how
to
code.
E
He
was
introduced
to
open
source
at
his
university
and
he
was
able
to
turn
his
passion
for
movies
and
tv
into
meaningful,
open
source
contributions,
including
writing
a
small
piece
of
code
that
became
part
of
the
disney
and
pixar
luca
movie.
You
can
read
more
about
kartik's
story
on
the
readme
project
side.
Karthik
wants
to
become
a
full-time,
open
source
creator
and
leader
someday,
and
here
at
github.
We
wanted
people
like
karthik
to
have
the
opportunity
and
support
to
do
that.
E
So
in
2019
we
launched
github
sponsors
as
a
way
for
you
as
a
maintainer
to
sustain
your
project
and
for
you,
as
a
consumer,
to
financially
support
the
people
and
organizations
who
design,
build
and
maintain
the
open
source
projects
you
depend
on.
Sponsors,
helps
make
open
source
a
viable
career
path
for
people
to
create
and
contribute
to
our
digital
infrastructure.
E
Karthik
is
a
developer
on
github
and
you
may
already
know
this,
but
here
at
github
we
put
the
developer
first
and
we
do
that
with
everything
we
do
with
every
decision
that
we
make
with
every
product
we
design
with
every
process
we
are
thinking
about.
We
always
put
the
developer
first
and
we
do
this
not
only
because
we're
a
developer
company,
but
we
realize
the
later
you
get
developers
involved
in
the
process.
The
worse
outcome.
Companies
have,
for
example,
when
finding
security
issues
in
production.
E
When
we
put
the
developer
first,
we
are
empowering
them
to
solve
issues
before
they
appear.
We
are
helping.
You
write
safer
and
more
secure
code,
ultimately
allowing
you
to
have
more
time
to
be
creative,
and
this
approach
has
helped
github
to
go
to
community
of
over
73
million
developers,
including
people
like
karthik
and
more
than
4
million
organizations.
E
But
beyond
that,
when
I
look
around,
I
see
that
every
developer
is
effectively
a
github
customer,
because
you
are
downloading
all
dependencies.
All
your
packages,
everything
you
do
in
your
development
lifecycle
is
somehow
connected
to
github
and,
of
course,
open
source
collaborates
on
github.
We
call
all
this:
the
interconnected
community.
E
There
is
no
single
company
that
can
out
compete,
open
source
for
innovation.
Every
line
of
code
that
is
written
at
github
at
our
customers.
Companies
and
by
open
source
maintainers,
effectively
builds
on
the
work
of
thousands
of
other
developers
from
around
the
world.
We
have
seen
india-based
companies
consuming
and
contributing
more
and
more
open
source
code
in
the
last
year
and
there's
been
so
much
innovation
and
growth
at
companies
like
infosys.
E
So
my
second
story
is
about
how
infosys
uses
github
enterprise
and
github
advanced
security
to
collaborate
and
share
their
expertise
with
customers
and
the
world.
Infos
is
on
a
journey
to
achieve
excellence
and
become
even
more
resilient,
with
hundreds
of
thousands
of
employees
working
in
practically
every
industry.
They
use
github
to
collaborate
and
write
secure
code,
and
they
do
this
in
an
environment
that
increases
developer,
velocity
and
happiness
since
adopting
github
infosys
has
seen
a
20
increase
in
velocity.
How
amazing
is
this?
E
E
We
are
seeing
all
kinds
of
startups
coming
into
the
program
from
e-commerce,
fintech
consumer
apps
to
sas
and
software
infrastructure
companies.
Not
only
are
open
source
teams
startups
and
large
enterprises
building
on
github,
but
students
turn
to
github
to
start
their
journey
and
learn
how
to
build
software.
E
In
fact,
we
nearly
doubled
the
number
of
students
on
github
in
india
in
the
last
year.
The
students
are
creating
a
number
of
amazing
things
and
we
want
to
support
their
growth
through
github
externships,
a
program
that
helps
connect
students
with
companies
in
india
to
gain
on
the
job,
experience
and
succeed
in
an
enterprise
environment.
E
Since
launching
last
year,
we
have
announced
two
cohorts
of
the
externship
program
and
have
placed
over
150
students
into
39
partner
organizations,
and
we
also
now
have
over
80
github
campus
experts
based
in
india
that
support
our
growing
developer
community.
They
strive
to
build
inclusive
spaces
to
learn,
share
their
experiences
and
build
projects
together,
and
here
is
a
great
example.
G
F
As
a
creative
campus
expert,
we
organize
multiple
events
on
campus.
These
events
include
sessions
on
technologies,
hackathons
or
just
networking
events.
In
these
events,
we
ensure
that
we
bring
together
a
diverse
set
of
audience
advocated
to
all
of
their
needs.
This
helps
in
establishing
relationships
and
also
helps
people
improve
the
technical
and
interpersonal
skills.
G
The
most
important
thing
that
I
learned
being
a
part
of
the
campus
experts
program,
is
how
to
scale
communities.
If
you
want
to
start
a
school,
you
cannot
be
the
only
teacher
you
need
to
get
more
folks
involved
and
give
up
control
and
the
second
most
important
thing
that
I
learned
was.
Even
though
we
are
called
campus
experts,
you
don't
have
to
be
an
expert
to
start
contributing
or
even
applying
to
the
program.
F
Because
of
the
git
of
campus
experts
program,
I
got
multiple
opportunities.
One
of
them
was
to
become
a
github
field
expert
for
india
region
and
being
a
guitar
field
expert.
I
organized
india's
first
ever
github
field
day
where
we
brought
together
150
student
community
leaders
from
all
over
india
and
provided
them
a
platform
to
come
together,
collaborate
ideate
and
enhance
their
relationships.
G
Speaking
of
opportunities,
github
provides
a
lot
of
support
for
your
events.
Your
content,
for
example,
I
created
a
tutorial
on
github
and
it
got
close
to
half
a
million
views
after
it
was
published
on
the
github
campus
experts
website.
You
also
get
to
be
a
part
of
the
huge
network
of
campus
experts
and
program
managers
around
the
world
who
teach
you
quite
a
lot.
F
G
So
I'm
a
final
year
student
in
tech
with
a
lot
of
career
paths
in
front
of
me
and
I
believe
the
github
campus
experts
have
introduced
me
to
the
world
of
developer
relations
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
applying
all
the
knowledge
that
I
have
gained
as
a
campus
expert
in
the
real
world.
When
I'll
be
joining
full
time.
E
Thank
you,
kashbu
and
kunal
for
sharing
your
stories
with
us
as
a
developer.
First
company.
We
love
to
work
with
all
of
you
to
make
github
and
the
communities
that
build
on
our
platform
a
better
place,
and
so,
when
we
think
about
software
development
today
it
is
no
longer
the
stereotypical,
solitary
developer.
It
is
a
group,
a
team
sport
collaborating
with
each
other.
It's
a
global
team
of
developers
collaborating
from
around
the
world,
so
I
want
to
leave
you
with
three
takeaways.
E
Two,
the
interconnected
community
is
a
powerful
one,
open
source
education
and
enterprises.
We
are
all
in
it
together.
We
are
building
the
future
of
software
and
our
mission
is
to
accelerate
human
progress
through
developer
collaboration
and
three.
We
are
committed
to
india.
We
are
committed
to
growing
github
in
india
to
hiring
in
india
to
supporting
indian
developers,
maintainers
and
students
by
giving
back
through
programs
for
github
sponsors,
accelerate
the
open
source,
bootcamps
and
externships,
and
you
know
it
was
only
a
few
short
years
ago
that
github
didn't
even
have
apprentices
in
india.
D
D
C
Well,
coming
up:
next
is
our
first
guest
keynote
by
nanda,
nilikani,
co-founder
and
chairman
of
infosys
technologies.
Nandan
is
also
the
founding
chairman
of
the
unique
identification
authority
of
india.
He
recently
co-founded
and
is
the
chairman
of
xtep
a
not-for-profit,
aimed
at
improving
basic
literacy
for
millions
of
children
born
in
bengaluru,
where
I
am
right
now,
nandan
received
his
bachelor's
degree
from
iit
bombay.
H
Good
day
and
I'm
really
privileged
and
honored
to
be
addressing
this
github
constellation
india
event,
the
open
source
movement
has
become
more
and
more
relevant
around
the
world
and
in
india,
and
I'm
truly
delighted
to
be
addressing
all
of
you
before
I
get
into
the
open
source
aspect
of
it.
I
thought
I
would
just
tell
you
why
india
is
now
in
its
tech
decade
and
therefore
why
the
work
that
you
do
has
become
even
more
critical
and
important.
H
H
H
The
third
hundred
billion
dollars
is
going
to
come
in
three
to
four
years,
so
the
first
100
million
was
30
years.
The
second
hundred
billion
was
ten
years
and
the
third
hundred
billion
is
coming
in
three
to
four
years.
That
shows
you
the
acceleration
of
what
is
happening
globally
in
india.
We
currently
have
about
4.5
million
developers
in
across
the
iit
industry
and
startups,
and
so
on.
This
is
expected
to
double
to
about
9
to
10
million
developers
in
the
next
decade.
H
So
what
took
40
years
to
reach?
4.5
million
developers
will
now
double
in
just
10
years.
So
you
see
that
there's
the
acceleration
of
talent
in
this
industry
and
nowhere
else
in
the
world.
There
is
such
a
wide
food
of
developers
and
engineering
talent.
So
this
is
trend.
Number
one
trend.
Number
two
is
of
course,
the
dramatic
growth
in
the
startup
industry.
H
H
Digital
companies
went
public,
whether
nikah
or
paytm
or
zomato,
and
we
expect
to
see
more
in
the
coming
years
and
india
is
facing
a
huge
opportunity
because
the
one
hand
global
capital
is
coming
here,
even
though
there
is
some
amount
of
capital
slow
down
because
of
the
fact
that
the
interest
rates
are
going
up
in
the
us
and
so
on,
it
will
continue
to
be
in
india,
because
a
lot
of
the
capital
that
was
earlier
going
to
china
is
coming
to
india.
So
that's
number
one.
H
We
are
seeing
a
lot
of
opportunity
in
india
both
in
the
domestic
products
market,
as
well
as
in
the
global
sas
market.
So
we
see
a
lot
of
companies
and
then,
of
course,
emerging
new
areas
like
crypto
and
metaverse,
and
so
on
and
india
has
a
tremendous
pool
of
very
exciting
young
founders
who
have
the
ambition,
the
energy
and
the
goal
of
creating
global
companies.
H
They
are
very
high
volume,
very
low
cost,
very
small
transaction
value
and
all
in
real
time.
The
first
of
these
was
aadhaar,
which
I
essentially
led.
The
organization
called
uidai
from
2009
to
14.
I
was
employee
number
one
of
this
government
startup
and
that
led
to
1.3
billion
people
being
issued
a
digital
id
called
aadhaar,
which
has
become
ubiquitous
for
authentication
and
kyc
across
the
country.
H
H
This
also
was
combined
with
the
banking
sector
to
create
the
direct
benefit
transfer
program,
so
every
bank
account
is
linked
to
an
aadhaar
number
and
there
are
over
700
million
unique
other
linked
bank
accounts,
and
this
is
used
for
direct
transfer
of
money
by
the
government
to
literally
hundreds
of
millions
of
beneficiaries
in
the
country.
H
I
am
an
advisor
on
technology
and
innovation
to
public
policy
to
npci
and
np,
and
I
worked
with
them
on
the
creation
and
launch
of
upi
a
payment
system
that
was
designed
in
2013
to
2015
and
it
launched
in
may
of
2016.
H
H
H
Then
there's
the
new
account
aggregator
system,
which
is
coming,
which
allows
individuals
and
businesses
to
leverage
their
own
data
to
get
benefits.
So
a
small
business
can
use
its
gst
data
to
get
a
loan.
A
consumer
can
use
his
salary
data
to
get
a
loan
and
so
on,
and
account
aggregate
is
a
big
thing
which
is
happening.
H
H
H
H
I
do
believe
that
a
large
number
of
committees
to
major
international
open
source
platforms
from
india-
and
I
believe
that
will
only
continue
so,
both
in
quantity
and
quality.
We
expect
to
see
a
large
large
contribution
from
the
indian
open
source
community,
but
it's
also
important
that
india
become
a
source
of
open
source
platforms
themselves.
H
This
was
13
years
back.
We
took
a
very
conscious
decision
that
we
would
build
this
using
a
completely
open
source
stack
using.
You
know,
hadoop
and
mysql
and
all
kinds
of
things
which
I
mean
we
kept
changing
the
the
stack
but
they're
all
using
open
source
elements,
mq
series
and
so
on,
and
at
that
time
it
was
a
radical
thing.
Nobody
in
india
had
done
such
a
large
project
using
open
source.
H
We
did
it,
and
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
have
a
platform
that
can
issue
1.3
billion
others
do
50
million
authentications
a
day
at
a
very
low
cost,
because
the
entire
stack
is
using
open
source
and
in
fact,
subsequently,
there
has
been
an
initiative
called
mohsep,
which
is
a
modular
open
source
in
identity
platform
which
is
being
developed
as
a
public
good
developed
at
triple.
I
t
bangalore
and
many
countries
are
using
this
open
source
platform.
H
H
H
That
has
made
upi
very,
very
cheap
and
very
very
easy,
very
low
cost
hardware,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
npci
is
able
to
offer
it
at
such
a
low
or
no
cost,
and
in
fact
npci
has
become
one
of
the
foremost
users
of
open
source
and
using
the
underlying
open
source
transaction
infrastructure.
Upi
many
of
the
other
products
from
npci
like
aeps
and
imps,
have
all
been
reconfigured
to
sit
on
top
of
the
open
source
stack
and
that's
been
a
very
big
moment
within
npci
and
therefore
upi
and
other.
H
A
third
example
is
something
which
a
foundation
that
I
support,
called
except
foundation,
is
built,
which
is
a
complete
set
of
open
source
modules
for
education
learning
and
skilling
called
sun
bird.
It's
all
on
github,
it's
all
out
there.
It's
all
under
a
very
good.
I
think
mit
license
and
many
people
are
using
modules
from
that.
H
During
the
pandemic,
we
had
to
india
to
launch
a
program
to
get
multiple.
You
know
get
millions
of
people
billion
people
to
get
vaccinated.
H
H
This
is
going
to
be
a
complete
open
set
of
ai
mod
models,
open
data-
and
you
know
an
architecture
which
allows
all
of
indian
languages
to
be
able
to
translate
into
each
other
speech
to
speech,
speech
to
text
text
to
speech,
text
to
text
everything
is
being
covered
and
this
is
again
being
designed
under
the
national
language
translation
mission
of
metis
to
be
a
completely
open
source
platform.
H
I
do
believe
all
of
you
can
play
a
huge
role
in
building
a
bigger
community,
open
source
developers
in
playing
a
larger
role
in
global,
open
source
products
and
launching
india's
own
open
source
products
that
can
be
taken
globally
and
therefore
make
a
huge
difference
to
the
transformation
of
india
and
the
world.
Thank
you
and
have
a
great
event.
C
D
Absolutely
I
had
goosebumps
so
many
times
in
this
keynote
40
unicorns
minted
in
india
just
last
year,
fabulous
the
growth
of
digital
public
goods
like
aadhar
direct
benefit,
transfer
and
upi,
and
the
interesting
thing
is
zero
cost
to
consumers.
It's
all
just
so
fascinating,
what's
happening
here
in
india,.
C
I
D
So
we
have
another
tweet
from
acgt01
and
he's
a
shout
out
for
thomas
talking
at
github
constellation
about
the
inspiring
story
of
karthik
contributions,
made
it
to
the
pixar
movie
luka.
Yes,
absolutely
that's
the
magic
that
users
from
anywhere
in
the
world,
including
india,
are
contributing
to
global
projects.
C
Looks
like
ashish
11
is
saying:
nandan
is
leading
the
fintech
revolution
with
the
huge
digital
ecosystem,
hashtag
github
constellation.
Yes,
thank
you
thanks
ashish.
Thank
you
for
sharing
that
we
are
super
pumped
up
about
that
and
as
not
to
the
indian
developer
community.
We
would
love
if
our
viewers
could
join
in
the
fun
with
us
share
a
picture
wearing
your
favorite
indian
outfit
and
tweet
us
and
use
the
github
constellation
to
win
some
swag.
D
D
J
J
D
L
Hello,
everyone
and
a
warm
welcome
to
all
of
you
in
today's
panel
discussion.
Our
topic
for
today
is
open
code
to
open
source
building
a
business
model.
My
name
is
gandhali
samanth
and
I
lead
the
developer
ecosystem
and
market
engagement
charter
at
github.
As
you
all
know,
open
source
is
everywhere.
There
is
hardly
any
industry
where
open
source
adoption
on
penetration
hasn't
happened.
L
Yet,
according
to
a
survey
conducted
in
2017,
99
of
organizations
use
open
source
in
some
format,
and
then
there
are
organizations
who
have
gone
ahead
and
built
their
entire
business
model
around
open
source.
In
today's
panel
discussions,
we
are
going
to
talk
to
founders
or
co-founders
or
for
such
organizations
who
have
built
thriving
businesses
around
open
source.
So
without
further
ado,
let's
get
introduced
to
our
panel
today,
we
will
start
with
neha
gupta,
who
is
the
co-founder
of
kiply,
an
open
source
api
testing
platform.
L
L
L
L
Our
third
panelist,
for
the
day
is,
is
the
co-founder
and
ceo
of
rohi
dot
io
a
low
code
platform
to
build
your
product
back
in
minutes.
All
in
the
browser
prior
to
this
harini
was
a
vp
of
engineering
at
blackrock
and
also
a
partner
at
the
early
stage
vc.
She
is
an
advocate
of
open
source
software,
as
well
as
women
in
think
she
holds
a
master's
degree
in
computer
engineering
from
university
of
texas
at
austin.
Welcome
harini.
L
L
L
L
O
Okay,
you
know,
since
open
source
is
now
very
ubiquitous
and
widely
adopted,
so
everyone
is
pretty
aware
that
you
can
available
software
right,
but
I
want
to
spend
licensing
that
a
true
open
source
license
or
a
platform
is
something
that
is
allowing
its
users
or
one
to
use
edit
or
even
redistribute
or
sell
to
to
their
heart's
desire
and
when,
when
it
comes
to
open
core
on
the
other,
it's
it's
more
like
to
me.
It's
a
business
model
to
monetize
the
open
source
software.
O
I
Yeah,
I
think
so
to
me,
like
you
know,
there
is
always
a
community
as
well
as,
like
you
know,
a
business
for
an
open
source
based
businesses
right
like,
for
example,
like
you
know,
as
if
you
take
an
example
of
chat
food,
we
have
a
larger
community
who
actually
uses
our
open
source
product,
which
is
which
has
like
you
know
most
of
the
features
but,
like
you
know,
it
doesn't
have
a
set
of
features
which
might
not
be
relevant
for
a
smaller,
smaller
users
or
smaller
businesses.
I
So
I
think
the
community
like
to
build
the
community.
We
need
manpower,
we
need.
We
need
the
capital,
we
need
more
and
more
people
to
get
involved.
So
what
I
feel
is
like
so
as
a
distinction
and
as
a
difference
between
open
source
and
open
core.
I
What
what
I
see
is
like
you
know,
to
build
the
larger
community.
We
need
some
way
to
capitalize
the
existing
product
and
so
they're.
Like
you
know,
we
have
some
features
which
will
be
restricted
under
a
certain
license.
So,
like
you
know
at
chatwood,
what
we
are
building
is
like
you
know.
We
have
open
source
product
which
is
in
mit
license,
and
there
is
a
set
of
features
which
is
under
enterprise
license,
which
has
like
you
know,
which
needs
a
license
to
you,
know,
use
so
yeah.
I
L
Thanks
pranavan
niha,
I
think
I
think
it
gave
us
good
clarity
about
how
to
differentiate
between
open
source
and
open
core.
My
next
question
is
for
you
rishabh.
How
do
you
build
an
open
core
business
model?
What
is
the
thought
process
behind
it.
A
So
you
know
we
actually
are
fully
open
source.
We
are
not
in
the
open
core
side
of
things,
and
you
know
we
decided
that
so
so
open
core
and
open
source.
You
know
like
said
that
there
is
a
lot
of
good
reason.
Right
I
mean
you
have
to
sustain
your
business
at
some
level
and
open
core
is
a
great
way
to
identify
features.
A
A
Ultimately,
if
you're
going
to
ask
your
users
to
if
you're
going
to
position
your
product
as
an
open
source
product
users,
do
expect
that
you
know
your
product
is,
you
know,
really
free
and
open
source
right
and
for
us
you
know
we
really
monetize
from
hosting
and
services.
You
know
that's
our
model,
so
we
we
kind
of
come
from
the
you
know.
Maybe
the
outlier
in
this
group
here
so
yeah.
L
N
I
can
talk
about
our
approach
to
open
core
or
what
we
like
to
call
commercial
open
source
model
as
well.
That's
kind
of
prevalent
right
now,
so
we
have
a
base
open
source
model.
That's
completely
free
the
code
base.
You
can
self
host
or
you
can.
We
also
have
a
hosted
version,
that's
also
free
and
we
have
a
paid
model
that
we
actually
still
launching
soon.
N
That
gives
you
access
to
pro
features
that,
in
addition
to
the
base,
open
source
version,
gives
you
things
that
are
dependent
on
more
infrastructure
or
things
that
need
you
to
maintain
things
that
typically
a
one
person
or
a
team
using
the
open
source
model
might
not
need.
So
logically,
it
makes
sense
that
those
kind
of
features
go
into
the
hosted
pro
paid
feature.
So
that's
how
we
are
approaching
the
open
core
business
model.
I
I
Is
coming
up
in
the
world,
companies
are
moving
towards?
Having,
like
you
know,
their
own
infrastructure,
like
you
know
the
managed
infrastructure
for
their
customers
so
that
they
don't
transfer
data
to
third-party
right.
So
at
that
point
it
makes
sense
to
have
a
self-hosted.
You
know
kind
of
a
software
and
open
source
actually,
like
you
know,
helps
us
to
do
that
in
a
pretty
good
way
and
like
when
we
actually
like
in
a
thought
about
making
it
open
source
and
building
a
business
out
of
it.
I
There
were
a
couple
of
options
for
us.
One
was
you
know
we
completely
open
source
it
and
then
build
a
cloud
version
of
the
software.
Just
like
you
know,
russia
is
doing,
or
we
could
actually
like.
You
know,
build
the
entire
thing
as
open
source
and
use
support
subscriptions
from
that,
and
the
third
thing
was,
which
was
proven
and,
like
you
know,
which
has
a
lot
of
potential.
I
Was
that,
like
you
know,
you
have
a
base
model
where
which
is
used
by
a
larger
community,
and
you
have
a
set
of
features
which
is
restricted
to
accept
like
to
like
which
will
be
used
by
either
larger
companies
or,
like
you
know,
people
who
who
wanted
customized
features.
So
we
we
figured
that
building
larger
businesses
requires
this
kind
of
approach,
and
hence
we
actually,
like
you
know,
went
into
being
an
open
core
company
rather
than
like
you
know,
adopting
other
ones.
L
Thanks
prana
russia,
would
you
like
to
tell
us
why
did
you
decide
to
be
an
open,
open
source
based
organization.
A
You
know
the
whole
movement
to
distribute
software
and
cloud
became
open
source
and
developers
started.
Taking
more
decisions-
and
you
know
the
best
way
to
get
per
developer
is
through
an
open
source.
So
it's
it's
just
a
very
new
thing
that
we
have
seen
you
know.
Obviously
you
know
the
mongodb
going
public
and
you
know
the
acquisition
of
github
by
microsoft
right.
These
were
very,
very
important
events
for
the
whole
ecosystem
to
shift
to
a
pro
open
source
model.
A
I
mean
this:
wasn't
there
10
years
ago,
10
years
ago,
nobody
would
touch
open
source.
We
have
seen
like
a
whole
tectonic
shift
in
this
business.
I
mean
we
come
from
a
more
traditional
mindset.
I
mean
I,
you
know,
my
business
model
was
essentially
what
wordpress
was
that
you
know
we.
We
will
provide
the
software
for
free,
but
we
will
provide
hosting.
A
Currently
we
don't
distinguish
between
the
software
and
it
does
give
us
some
disadvantage,
but
I
think
in
the
long
run
we
do
believe
that
there
is,
there
will
be
enough
proprietary
or
there
will
be
enough.
You
know,
services,
commercial
services
that
we
will
be
able
to
build
around
hosting
and
around
you
know,
building
a
network
and
around
delivering
services
that
you
know
we
will
be
able
to
sustain
even
without
going
open
core
we've
stuck
to
it.
A
L
See
so
all
of
us
know
that
I
would
say,
the
success
of
open
source
projects
are
dependent
on
it's
dependent
on
the
number
of
people
are
contributing
it
or
using
it
right.
So
adoption
is
the
key
here.
So
my
question
is
to
you
harini:
how
do
you
drive
adoption
of
your
platform.
N
Yeah,
so
we
focus
on
a
couple
of
things
to
drive
adoption
first
through
awareness
where
we
are,
you
know
trying
to
talk
about
what
the
project
does
and
how
it
can
help
other
people
build
their
products
easily
through
you
know
various
things
like
content,
videos
and
easy
to
use
templates
that
people
can
really
fork
and
get
started,
and
then
we
have
like
significant
emphasis
on
growing
the
community
via
contributions
and
conversations
and
also
integrations
with
other
tools
in
the
platform
that
we
can.
N
You
know
collaborate
with,
so
it's
not
like
a
we
are
building
in
isolation.
We
are
collaborating
with
other
open
source
project
creators
and
the
community.
We
are
also
working
on
engagement
at
a
community
level
by
you
know
you
know,
being
proactive
and
addressing
various
issues
prs
and
like
discord
messages,
because
I
think
at
a
core
level,
open
source
is
basically
community,
so
engaging
with
the
community.
Keeping
it
thriving
is
one
of
our
core
goals
as
well.
L
Thanks
harini
neha,
would
you
like
to
add
your
thoughts
to
it?
How
do
you
guys
drive
adoption
at
kiploi
yeah.
O
I
mean
we're
still
very
early
state,
so
I
don't
have
much
to
add,
but
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
traction
from
you
know
social
channels
like
discussing
on
subreddit
or
of
go
community
developer
communities,
and
these
are
helping
us
with
you
know,
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
and-
and
you
know
spreading
the
word
throughout
the
community
people
talking
about
keploy
in
different
blog
posts.
O
Your
cast,
that
is
a
major
channel,
and
also
since
you
know,
kiplois
is
a
an
api
testing
platform
which
captures
captures
data
in
a
very
intensive
manner,
so
to
be
100,
open
source
and
that
adoption
to
be
present
within
the
developer
community
was
something
that
was
our
strategy
to.
You
know:
drive
adoption
amongst
developers.
L
Thanks
nina
thanks
for
sharing
that
with
us,
so
my
next
question
is
actually
open
for
all
four
of
you.
You
know
I
would
like
to.
I
would
like
each
of
you
to
kind
of
answer
this.
So
what
are
some
of
the
advantages,
as
well
as
disadvantages
that
you
have
encountered
of
being
open
source
or
an
open
core
based
organization?
I
Yeah
sure
so
I
think
advantages
are
obvious.
You
get
a
lot
of
traction
from
an
adoption
from
open
source
community.
You
have
you
you'll,
be
able
to
build
a
good
community
of
product
enthusiasts
without
like
without
much
effort.
So
I
guess
like
that.
Actually,
like
you
know,
adds
adds
to
the
like
the
effort
required
for
you
to
build
such
a
community.
If
you
are
a
close
source
product
is
much
high.
That
of
being
open
source,
reduces
that
and
on
on
the
flip
side
of
it.
I
It
also
likes
add
a
much
more
like
you
know,
I
would
say,
like
you
know,
not
a
disadvantage,
but,
like
you
know
it
gives
you
much
distraction
in
terms
of
like
you
know,
people
might
want
different
things.
How
do
you
prioritize
these
different
requests?
Like
you
know,
how
do
you
prioritize
your
product
roadmap?
How
do
you
product
prioritize
the
requests
which
are
coming
in
so
it's
just
that,
like
you
know
it's
in
the
open,
you
need
to
build
the
process
to
get
a
handle
on
that.
I
So
I
think,
like
you
know,
being
open
source
is
always
an
advantage
because
people
can
see
the
code.
It
helps
you
in
sales,
because
you
know
people
can
just
test
out
the
open
source
product
and
then
you
know
reach
out
to
you.
If
it
is
interesting
and
yeah
I
mean
again,
like
plus
a
good
advantage.
Is
that,
like
you
know,
you
have
a
good
community
of
product
people
like
people
who
love
the
product
so.
L
Thanks
for
now
harney,
do
you
want
do?
Have
you
seen
any
disadvantages
as
well
of
being
a
you
know,
an
open
core
based
organization.
N
Yeah,
I
mean
you
know
there
are
as
you
as
prana
mentioned,
a
lot
of
advantages,
but
in
terms
of
disadvantage,
it
kind
of
adds
another
layer
of
complexity
to
a
product
that
you're
already
building,
essentially
because
you
know
every
feature
or
anything
in
your
roadmap
that
you're
thinking
about
you
need
to
think
about
where
it
fits,
whether
it
fits
logically
in
the
open
source
or
it
has
to
be
in
your
kind
of
hosted
or
like
the
paid
version.
N
And
how
do
you
actually
then
deploy
to
the
community
in
a
way
that
is
transparent,
because
you
know
the
advantages
of
open
source
is
also
that
you
are
maintaining
a
level
of
transparency
for
people.
So
essentially,
you
know
deploying
different
features
in
a
more
reliable
and
consistent
manner
across
your
open
source
and
the
closed
source
kind
of
a
proprietary
core
model
that
you're
building
on
top
of
it.
So
that's
something
that
could
be
a
disadvantage
for
your
community.
L
Thanks
thanks
harini
rishab
any
other
thoughts.
Since
you
said
you
are
a
little
bit
of
outlier
here.
What
are
your
experiences.
A
I
mean,
if
you
I
mean
I
I
I
yesterday
I
was
at
a
discussion
with
students
about
you,
know:
building
businesses
around
open
source,
and
I
mean
so
building
a
business
is
hard
building
a
good
product
is
even
harder
and
building
a
good
product
and
a
business
and
giving
it
away
for
free
is
like
you're.
Just
you
know,
just
adding
all
the
all
the
difficulties
right.
This
is.
This
is
the
most
difficult
part
in
a
way
right,
because
you
are
giving
away
your
product
for
free.
A
You
are
you
know,
building
you're,
building
something
good
first
right,
because
open
source
and
open
core
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
is
essentially
brutally
meritocratic.
I
mean
just
because
you're
giving
away
your
stuff
for
free
doesn't
mean
people
are
going
to
use
it.
They
want
it
to
be
as
good
as
consumer
grade
software.
So
so
that's
the
expectation
they
want
it
free
right
and,
and
then
it
comes
with
a
lot
of
expectations
from
the
community.
It
comes
with.
A
You
know,
a
lot
of
entitlement,
you
know
it's,
the
communities
are
not
kind,
I
mean
you
know
if
you're
giving
away
something
for
free.
Doesn't
mean
that
they'll
always
love
you
for
it
right,
they
will
expect
more
they'll
expect
you
to
build
features
even
contributors
right
I
mean
you
know
I
mean
I,
I
see
some
early
stage
projects
right.
A
I
mean
early
stage
projects,
love
contributors
right,
but
once
you
hit
a
point
you
know
you
don't
want
contributors,
because
you
realize
that
contributors
are
not
here
for
for
a
long
ride,
especially
people
who
are
just
going
to
contribute
one
thing
and
then
go
away
and
then
leave
it
to
you
to
maintain
their
contribution.
A
So
you
really
want
to
build
a
community.
That's
long-lasting.
You
know
that
has
a
long-term
perspective
are
going
to
be
around
for
a
long
time.
So
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
disadvantages
in
building
this
model.
The
big
advantage
is
obviously
that
you
know
you
get
distribution
from
a
business
perspective.
You
get
marketing
and
distribution
for
free,
but
yeah.
It's
it's.
It's
a
very
hard
business.
To
be
very
honest,.
O
Yeah
I
mean
majorly.
I
agree
with
the
advantages
that
there
is
unlimited
potential
in
terms
of
getting
feedback
from
the
community,
since
there
is
mutual
transparency.
You
know
you
can
talk
about
and
mutually
bring
tom
with
upcoming
parks
fixes.
You
know,
community
likes
and
dislikes,
and
community
support.
It
only
gets
trickier
or
confusing.
You
know
as
a
disadvantage.
O
Sometimes
you
get
an
overwhelming
input
from
the
community
on
various
topics.
For
example,
this
recently
happened
that
we
wanted
to
add
product
telemetry
to
the
open
source,
keploy
platform
and
90
percent
of
the
users
are
okay
with
it.
O
But
there
are,
you
know
five
to
ten
percent,
which
are
very
highly
vocal
when
they
are
against
something
or
they
do
not
like
something,
and
this
kind
of
situations
create
a
confusion
with
the
direction
sometimes,
and
it
is
not
just
with
a
you
know,
a
simple
feature
it
can
get
to
in
even
to
the
technical
architecture
and
different
things
so
yeah,
that's
something
that
where
it
gets
trickier.
L
Thanks
neha,
so
you
and
rishabh
both
brought
out
aspects
of
community
in
this
whole
process
right.
So
my
next
question
and
again
I'm
from
github,
so
our
focus
is
all
around
developers.
So
I
really
want
to
know
what
has
been
experience
for
each
of
you
to
target
this
developer
audience
via
open
source
using
your
platform.
So
again,
neha,
maybe
we'll
just
start
with
you
and
go
around
the
clock.
O
Sure
I
mean
we
generally,
you
know,
talk
to
developers
and
sdts
in
the
go
community.
The
channels
since
deploy
currently
supported
go
we
talked
to
developers
on
github
around.
You
know
those
discussions.
What
could
be
added
more
or
not?
O
Even
when
we
changed
our
kiploy
logo,
we
took
leverage
of
github
community
and
the
you
know,
resources
that
we
have,
and
it
really
helps
us
with
coming
up
different
aspects
of
seeing
a
feature
for
our
users
and
taking
into
actions.
So
that
way
you
know
it
is
really
helping
us
to
target
developers
and
take
feedback
from
them,
and
you
know
reiterate
the
loop.
I
Yeah,
I
think
the
reason
why
we
started
open
source
and,
like
you
know,
targeted
developers,
was
that
during
our
like
the
place
where
I
worked
last,
like
you
know,
we
had
this
internal
tool
which
we
used
for
customer
support
and
all
the
customer
data
like
it.
It's
generally,
like
you
know
not
the
actual
business.
It's
actually
like,
you
know
kind
of
an
internal
tool,
most
people
don't
like
it
and
it's
always
standard.
There
might
be
a
little
bit
a
small
element
which
you
want
to
tweak.
I
You
want
to
update,
and
for
that
reason
you
might
be
like
you
know,
building
the
entire
thing
from
scratch.
So
we
wanted
to
avoid
that.
We
wanted
to
give
people
a
base
platform
where
they
can
build.
They
can
build
their
tools,
like
you
know,
to
to
organize
their
customer
data
to
organize
their
support,
request
and
stuff
like
that.
So
what
we
have
provided
is
like
you
know.
We
build
a
platform.
E
I
We
can
like
developers,
can
build
on
their
own
integrations
and
their
own
extensions
on
top
of
shaftwood,
and
so
far
we
have
seen
quite
a
lot
of
things
which
we
couldn't
even
imagine
if
we
are
doing
it
as
a
as
a
close
source
product.
So
I
think,
like
you
know,
being
being
director
of
developers
and,
like
you
know,
getting
their
attention
is
really
important
to
us.
L
Thanks
thanks
for
now,
rishabh
anything
that
you
want
to
add
here,
since
you
have
been
doing
this
for
a
very
long
time,
and
also
you
know
if
you
have
seen
any
change
in
last
few
years,.
A
Yeah
I
mean
so
we
we
actually
learned
two
large
projects.
One
is
erp
next,
which
is
like,
which
is
targeted
to
almost
every
business
out
there,
because
it
does
financial
accounting
and
there
we
are
not
mostly
they're.
The
kind
of
developers
we
are
dealing
with
are
mostly
freelancers.
You
know
so
so
some
company
wants
an
erp
implementation,
they'll
get
hold
of
a
freelancer,
and
then
you
know
that
freelancer
may
or
may
not
continue
to
contribute
in
the
community.
A
That,
and
and
out
of
that,
you
know,
we've
probably
able
to
identify
four
or
five
really
good
long-term
contributors
through
the
community
right
and
and
the
other
big
project
we
run
is
frappe
framework,
which
is
essentially
a
the
the
tool
that
we
use
to
build
erp
next
and
and
it's
it's
kind
of
a
low
code,
rapid
application
development.
You
know
that's
what
it
used
to
be
called
before
the
term
low
code
was,
you
know,
I've
seen
I've
lived
through
both
of
those
cycles.
A
So
it's
a
rapid
application
development
tool,
low
code
framework
in
these
days
and
that
is
more
targeted
to
developers,
though
we
haven't
really
been
out
there
promoting
as
much
as
erp
next-
and
you
know
our
experience
is,
is
you
know
I
mean
it
really
depends
on
the
quality
of
software
you're
you're
giving
out
right?
I
mean
you
know
we,
our
software,
wasn't
that
great
for
many
years
you
know
now
it's
reasonably
reasonably
good
or
I
would
say
it's
acceptable.
A
So
so
you
know
the
the
kind
of
software
you
put
out.
Is
you
know
the
kind
of
developers
will
attract,
so
it's
very
brutally
meritocratic
out
there.
So
yeah
I
mean
that's.
N
N
You
know
some,
not
something
they're,
mainly
looking
for
they're
looking
for
something
that
solves
their
problem
and
they
don't
care
if
the
product
is
open,
source
or
not,
whereas
like
if
you're,
focusing
on
building
a
developer
tools,
product,
which
is
what
we
are
doing
with
a
dev
tool,
and
I
can
speak
for
myself
or
like
how
other
developers
feel
if
there's
a
completely
closed
source
option,
and
there
is
an
open
source
option.
N
I
tend
to
gravitate
towards
the
open
source,
because
you
know
if
you
hit
some
feature
limit
or
something
like
that,
you
can
continue
to
extend
at
a
core
and
contribute
back
and
so
with
roy.
We
are
building
like
a
no
code
platform
that
basically
allows
you
to
get
started
like
a
no
code,
but
then
you
can
continue
to
extend
at
a
core
level
anytime.
You
need,
and
our
experience
with
you
know,
seeing
how
developers
are
extending
it
in
different
scenarios
has
been
really
interesting.
L
Thanks
thanks
so
much
harini,
so
I
think
we
are
on
time,
and
this
brings
us
to
the
close
of
today's
panel
discussion
thanks
a
lot
neha,
prana,
harini
and
rishib,
for
you
know,
sharing
your
journey,
your
experiences
of
building
your
organizations.
L
I
think
this
is
a
growing
trend
today,
so
your
experiences
will
help
lot
of
you
know
new
startups
and
organizations
who
are
going
in
the
same
directions
as
each
of
you
did
so
with
that
thanks
a
lot
once
again,
and
I
would
hope
to
talk
to
you
all
off
soon.
C
D
C
Well,
viewers,
please
tweet
your
favorite
pastimes
in
between
coding,
marathons
or
work
breaks.
Also,
please
join
the
discussions
and
github
subject
matter
experts
who
will
be
engaging
during
our
sessions.
Please
keep
the
tweets
coming.
I
believe
we
have
one
coming
up
now.
C
D
The
next
one
is
from
rohit
p,
shirkey
rohit,
says
amazing,
intro
by
nandan
milikani
about
how
india
is
leading
its
way
in
software
market
and
contribution
of
foss
in
of
oss
in
huge
success.
Stories
of
platforms
like
upi,
has
targeted
constellation,
github
yeah,
that's
great,
so
motivating
it
was
to
hear
nandan
talk
about
all
the
stories.
C
Yeah,
absolutely
you
know
what
even
am
in
kurmangala
where
nanda
lives,
and
you
know
what
it's
absolutely
right.
Even
the
coconut
sellers,
the
vegetable
vendors,
everyone
uses
upi
and
it's
amazing
and
blessed
to
not
carry
cash
around
by
the
way
mohit.
I
believe
we
have
a
super
interesting
conversation
lined
up
next.
D
P
P
Ms
roy
is
an
indian
economic
services
officer
and
has
held
multiple
roles
in
the
government
currently
with
niti
ayog.
She
leads
the
vertical
dealing
with
data
management
and
frontier
technologies.
I
have
closely
followed
her
work
in
building
the
national
strategy
on
artificial
intelligence,
blockchain
and
many
other
tech
led
initiatives
in
the
government.
In
fact,
last
friday
I
witnessed
the
launch
of
national
data
analytics
platform
which
will
facilitate
access
to
huge
repositories
of
published
government
data,
and
she
has
been
leading
in
that
initiative
as
well.
P
Miss
roy
also
heads
the
women
entrepreneurship
platform
at
nithyayog
that
works
towards
developing
the
entrepreneurial
ecosystem,
for
women.
Welcome
miss
roy
nitio
has
been
that
is
india's
premier
think
tank
helping
created
a
shared
vision
for
our
country.
In
that
aspect,
how
important
is
technology
strategy
and
how
does
niti
io
think
about
it?
For
india.
Q
Thank
you
here
is.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
organizations
who
have
given
me
this
opportunity
to
address
a
community
which
I
feel
is
really
driving
the
change
today
and
niki
is
all
about
transformation.
So
very
happy
to
be
here.
You
spoke
about
the
strategy
on
technology
neeti,
as
the
name
suggests
you
know,
is
not
an
organization
which
is
too
much
into
the
current
implementation.
Q
For
that
we
have
relevant
administrative
ministries,
but
pt
is
the
premier
think
tank,
which
is
supposed
to
kind
of
give
a
vision,
a
long-term,
medium
term
and
proposed
wrote
ahead
on
how
you
know
various
aspects
need
to
be
dealt
with.
What
needs
to
be
done
to
achieve
that
vision,
so,
in
that
case,
strategy
becomes
very
important,
and
that
is
at
the
core
of
niti's
function.
Q
If
we
just
focus
on
technology
per
se,
I
will
come
to
the
other
main
areas.
You
know
a
specific
technology.
How
do
we
kind
of
promote
development
of
technology?
How
do
we
promote
adoption
of
technology?
What
are
the
technology
spheres
that
we
should
look
at
then?
I
take
you
back
to
2018
when
we
came
out
with
the
national
strategy
on
artificial
intelligence,
several
ways.
Q
You
know
that
really
let
the
path
of
of
starting
a
dialogue
on
the
adoption,
promotion
and
building
the
ecosystem
for
development
of
technology
in
the
country
in
a
very,
very
cohesive
manner.
Q
I
I
wouldn't
say
it's
not
as
if
nothing
was
happening
in
before
that,
but
from
2018
onwards
it
it
has
been
happening
in
a
more
cohesive
and
collaborative
fashion
where
we
have
identified
various
you
know,
players
and
who
are
working
together
to
develop
a
strategy
where
niti
plays
a
very
critical
role
as
a
since
it
provides
a
platform
for
all
stakeholders,
including
the
government,
research
academy
or
industry,
to
all
come
together
and
in
a
very
collaborative
and
consultative
manner,
come
out
with
the
strategy.
Q
So
starting
from
the
ai
strategy,
you
will
see
niti
lead
the
way
in
other
areas,
whether
it
is
clean
energy,
whether
it
is
you
know,
the
clean
mobility,
when
you
talk
about
evs,
so
niti
has
been
driving
the
the
entire
strategy
space.
Their
adoption
and
proportion
of
technology
in
the
country
is,
you
know,
involved.
P
That's
sort
of
true
ma'am.
In
fact,
I
have
met
so
many
people
who
have
been
benefited
out
of
the
great
work
coming
out
of
nithya,
especially
the
green
energy.
What
we
talked
today
and
even
the
national
strategy
on
ai,
I
was
with
my
previous
organization,
and
we
have
seen
tremendous
work
happening
on
the
ground
because
of
that
policy.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
think
I
have
been
personally.
P
I've
been
a
big
fan
of
your
work,
around
inclusion
and,
and
especially
tech
inclusion,
and
you
know
that's
even
the
objectives
of
the
government
today
that
we
see
digital
and
tech
inclusion
is,
is
big
on
agenda.
So
how
do
you
ensure
an
inclusive
tech
policy
framework
and
its
rollout.
Q
So
I
will
again
take
you
back
to
2018,
and
the
cornerstone
of
the
strategy
was
really
inclusion.
How
do
we
ensure
that
we
don't
have
islands
of
you
know,
excellence
in
in
a
huge
area
of
you
know
where
not
much
is
happening
so
inclusivity
and
democratizing
was
democratizing.
Q
Access
to
infrastructure
was
one
of
the
key
things
which
we
focused
on
and
since
2018
we
have
been
addressing
it
in
different
fashion.
We
also
were
required
to
do
it,
because
that
was
also
the
mandate
given
by
the
government
and
in
all
of
whether
it
is
our
honorable
prime
minister
or
any
of
the
other.
You
know,
representatives
of
the
government.
Q
It
is
again
and
again
stress
that
you
know
you
know
inclusive
inclusivity,
no
matter
what
we
are
doing
needs
to
be
stressed,
so
I
will
just
give
a
few
examples
in
that
you
know
area.
First
of
all,
we
started
from
2014
to
really
leverage
the
india
stack
and
we
came
to
you
know
the
india
stack
experience
and
india
stack,
upi
and
various
other
initiatives
that
followed
that
you
know
that
particular
initiative
has
really
revolutionized
the
financial
sector
in
a
big
way.
Q
So
we
started
off
with
payment
and
then
you
know
we
have
this
wonderful,
constant,
based
data
sharing
the
framework
which
was
brought
out
essentially
developed
by
ice
spirit
where
nikki
collaborated
in
launching
the
paper.
Q
So
that
is
the
second
phase
which
I
will
say
really
mark
the
progression
towards
inclusivity,
the
depa
framework,
and
we-
and
you
know
the
framework-
was
really
very
proactively
adopted
by
our
regulators,
also
with
rti,
coming
out
with
the
guidelines
for
a
regulatory
sandbox
where
aaa
could
be
really
evolved,
as
well
as
giving
the
licenses
to
several
companies
to
be
the
consent
managers.
So
I
think
that
I
will
mark
as
the
second
most
important
aspect.
The
third
is
really
developing
the
digital
goods.
Q
So
one
of
the
important
platforms
which
we
played
a
very
big
role
in
conceptualizing,
giving
a
vision
and
then
incubating-
and
then
you
know,
handing
it
over
to
an
implementing
authority-
is
really
the
unit
platform.
Now
what
does
ulip
do?
Ulip
is
also
translating
what
happened
in
india's
staff
in
the
financial
sector.
So
we
have
a
three
layered
approach
where
we
have
integration
data
implication
at
the
bottom,
then,
in
the
middle
we
will
have
a
data,
governance
and
data
exchange
protocols
and
on
the
top,
is
the
consumer
interface.
Q
So
what
does
it
really
do?
It
provides
access
to
data
to
everybody,
so
you
don't
have
to
be
a
deep
pocket.
You
don't
have
to
be
a
big
company
to
have
access
to
data
and
develop.
You
know
various
tools
to
address
the
various
issues
in
the
logistics
space.
You
can
be
a
startup,
you
can
be
a
small
time,
you
know
company
and
you
can
address
the
last
mind.
Problems
of
the
logistics
sector
by
leveraging
julie,
so
ulip
has
come
a
long
way
and
in
this
year's
budget
tournament
finance.
Q
Minister,
you
know
recognizing
the
how
ulip
is
revolutionizing
the
you
know:
the
logistics
space
and
the
kind
of
aligned
with
the
kathi
shakti
initiative
of
the
government.
She
announced
that
the
similar
platform
should
be
built
for
passenger
traffic
travel.
The
next
thing
I
will
so
this
is
the
public
digital.
You
know
platform
now.
Two
other
initiatives
which
we
have
driven
from
neeti
is
one.
Is
the
national
data
analytic
portal,
which
you
yourself
mentioned
in
the
beginning,
which
was
launched
on
the
13th,
and
that
is
addressing
the
last
mile
access
to
data?
Q
Now
all
the
data?
You
know,
as
it
is
said,
in
various
promotional
videos,
we
we,
india,
is
very
data
rich
today,
thanks
to
the
digital,
you
know
push
given
by
the
government
and
very
very
successful
digital
india
movement.
But
all
these
terabytes
of
data,
which
comes
from
surveys
which
come
from
various
other
sources,
the
use
is
limited
because
that
last
mile
was
not
being
addressed.
So
ndap
is
addressing
that.
So
now,
as
a
journalist,
they
can
go
to
end
up
and
have
easy
access.
Q
A
researcher
can
go,
a
student
can
go
on
and
tap
and
have
easy
access,
and
this
is
in
line
with
government's
philosophy
of
providing
easy
access
to
data
and
democratizing
access
to
data
and
last,
but
not
the
least,
is
the
women
entrepreneurship
platform
which
we
have
developed
within
niti
and
it's
an
aggregator
platform
which
really
you
know,
is
providing
a
seamless
access
to
all
initiatives
which
are
there
in
the
ecosystem,
which
benefits
the
women
entrepreneurial
ecosystem.
Q
Q
It
provides
access
to
initiatives
through
a
smart
search
and
all
kinds
of
initiatives,
whether
by
the
government,
private
corporate,
any
other
international
body
at
the
click
of
a
button
with
smart
search
with
various
other,
you
know
features
which
are
there
on
the
platform.
P
How
do
you
look
at
democratizing
data
and
get
help
of
you
know
all
the
passionate
developers
that
we
have,
because
they
really
want
to
contribute
to
nation
building
and
not
only
developers?
We
have
a
lot
of
tech
providers
also.
So
how
do
you
get
them
to
support
the
program?
Support
your
initiate
the
initiatives
that
you
are
on.
Q
So
you
know,
since
github
has
done
such
a
wonderful
job
in
getting
the
developer
community.
You
know
collaborate
and
kind
of
develop
this
open
source
tool,
so
both
wep
and
ndap
are
really
digital
platforms.
I
I
would
like
to
restrict
my
comments
to
these
two
platforms,
because
I
am
personally
involved
in
it,
so
I
will
use
this.
Q
You
know
your
program
as
a
call
for
action
to
all
the
developer
community
to
come
and
join
hands
with
us
to
help
us
develop
it
now,
whether
it
is
end
up
in
ndap
also,
we
are
trying
to
see
how
new
tools
can
be
uploaded.
We
don't
want
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
but
of
course
it
is
being
developed
by
a
you
know,
one
by
one
company,
which
is
under
contract
so
going.
Q
We
have
to
kind
of
be
in
quote
unquote
within
the
frames
of
that
contract,
which
I
have
signed
with
the
tech
developer,
but
that
has
not
stopped
us
from
reaching
out
to
other
companies,
and
today
we
are
in
talks
with
several
companies
who
want
to
integrate
their
tools
with
indepth
so
that
the
ndap
engine
really
gets
energized.
We
provide
more
features
by
this
integration
and
though
the
public
launch
only
happened,
you
know
this
week
on
friday.
Q
This
is
these
are
very
early
days,
but
I
think
your
program
is
very,
very
timely
for
us
and
I
would
we
would
also
use
our
social
media
to
reach
out
to
this
community,
but
I
would
request
you
also
to
reach
out
to
the
community
today
to
come,
and
you
know,
discuss
with
us
how
they
can
collaborate
within
that
the
second
platform,
which
is
more
open
source,
I
would
say
compared
to
india
because
end
up
is
the
data
and
we
have
to
be
a
bit.
Q
Q
Whatever
happened
in
the
past,
let
me
tell
you
the
first
wep
platform
was
developed
by
the
nikki
interns
and
over
time
you
know,
various
partners
have
joined
hands
to
develop
various
modules,
say
flipkart
developed
the
community
page
and
we
took
towards
other
people
to
come
and
develop
individual
modules.
Now
we
are
trying
to
you,
know
kind
of
take
stock
of
what
we
have
and
whether
we
are
on
the
right
path
and
see
how
our
next
journey
next
phase
of
this
journey
should
evolve.
So
we
are
in
that
design.
Q
Thinking,
phase
and
wep
presents
another.
You
know
very,
very
important
platform
for
developers
to
come
forward,
use
the
platform
not
only
use,
but
also
work
with
us
to
develop
specific
modules.
Add
on
to
it
and
work
with
us
in
different.
You
know
aspects
so
that,
of
course,
we
are
open
to
have
a
dialogue
with
the
developer
community
and
see
how
we
can
evolve
this
platform
to
become
really
a
world
leader
in
an
aggregate
kind
of
a
sense.
P
P
I
want
to
stay
on
on
the
developer
topic
and
I
think
you
know
we
have
seen
that
india's
leadership
in
tech
is
is
kudos
to
the
developer,
the
individual
developers
of
mine
that
we
have
in
india
and
who's
doing
some
who
are
doing
some
awesome
work.
The
other
area
where
india
really
leads
is
open
source
software
development.
Q
So
you
know,
digital
india
mission
is
all
about
inclusivity
and,
as
mr
khan
is
the
ceo
of
ethiopian
says,
we
need
to
have
a
system
which
allows
a
thousand
flowers
blue,
so
we
do
not
want
to
be
restrictive.
We
want
to
have
a
system
which
allows
people
to
kind
of
come
up
with
solution.
Q
Auto
innovation
mission
is
one
such
initiative
of
etio,
which
really
promotes
this
kind
of
an
initiative
where
the
developer
community,
you
know
through
by
participating
in
their
challenges,
can
kind
of
contribute
to
nation
building
us
and,
as
a
prime
minister
also
keeps
on
saying,
you
know,
do
not
adopt
tech
for
just
the
sake
of
tech
use
tech
as
the
vehicle
for
problem
solving,
and
for
that
to
achieve
that,
you
know,
organizations
like
ethiopia
is
there,
what
kind
of
help
can
can
be
provided?
Q
Because
government
sees
itself
in
the
role
of
being
an
enabler?
A
catalyst
and
government
like
it
has
been
moving
away
from
the
business
development
phase
in
various
sectors
and
even
in
tech
space
government
wants,
to
kind
of
you
know,
be
the
enabler,
be
the
facilitator
and
allow
this
huge
demographic
dividend
and
the
huge
potential
which
we
have
in
this
country
to
take
this
mission
forward.
So
this
is
again
an
again
a
space
where
a
lot
of
collaboration
is
required.
Q
Where
you
know
you
must
realize
we
are
not
really
the
custodian
of
all
kind
of
you
know
or
we
we
don't
have
all
the
wisdom
and
we
look
towards
the
developer
community.
We
look
towards
academia,
we
look
towards
industry
to
come
up
with
suggestions.
We
will
have
an
open
mind
and
how
to
take
this
forward
is
something
that
I
assure
you
that
we
will
be
there
to
work
with
you,
but
it
it
can't
be
said
that
okay
government
should
bring
out
abc.
Q
It
has
to
be
from
both
sides.
So
in
case
you
do
not,
you
know,
find
us
as
a
good
collaborator.
At
that
stage
you
can
say
look
I
did
abc
and
I
did
not
get
a
response.
So
government
is
providing
platforms,
whether
it
is
the
utel
innovation
mission,
whether
it
is
the
end
app
where
we
have
you
know,
have
been
kind
of
doing
challenges
and
going
forward.
Q
We
plan
to
do
several
such
hackathons
and
other
challenges,
whether
it
is
eulip
where
nictc
has
already
done
a
challenge-
and
we
have
you
know,
have
several
winners.
So
I
I
would
say
that
the
community
also
needs
to
be
responsible
to
come
up
and
proactively
work
with
the
government.
P
Absolutely
true
I'll
switch
gears
and
I
want
to
probably
ask
you
the
last
question.
We
are
short
of
time,
but
that's
that's
your
area
of
your
passion
and
and
and
you
lead
the
women
entrepreneurship
ecosystem
at
meet
the
io
you'd
love
to
hear
more
about
that.
The
work
that
that's
happening
and
what
what
can
we
do
to
support
that.
Q
Absolutely
so
you
know
it
was
an
idea
and
how
I
see
my
work
is
to
come
up
with
solutions
for
dealing
with
specific
problems.
Q
So
when
we
came
up
with
the
vision
of
ender
it,
the
problem
was:
how
do
we
ensure
that
we
don't
need
a
huge
amount
of
work
to
draw
insights
from
certain
data?
Sets?
It's
not
as
if
you
know
we
are
creating
this
data.
We
are
not
creating
this
data.
All
that
we
are
doing
is
you
know
identifying
the
use
cases
of
the
data,
so
our
starting
point
on
ndap
is
first
identifying
the
use
cases.
Q
Otherwise
you
know
all
this
data
being
there
is
just
lying
there,
so
we
have
started
that
from
the
other
way
wrong.
We
first
identify
the
use
case.
Then
we
identify
the
data
set.
Then
we,
you
know,
look
for
the
data
and
put
it
in
a
schema
and
so
going
forward
for
that
use
case,
and
you
know
with
keep.
We
keep
on
updating
data
so
that
use
case
gets
solved
on
the
fly,
so
you
can
come
on
the
platform
and
use
the
features
of
the
platform
to
solve
that
one
particular
use
case.
Q
That's
a
journey
today
we
have
around,
I
think,
165
or
65
and
kind
of
I'm
not
very
sure,
but
these
many
use
cases
and
it
is
just
the
beginning.
Q
Similarly,
the
second
problem
that
we
encountered
was
how
to
overcome
the
information
asymmetry
that
exists
in
the
entrepreneurial
ecosystem
for
women
in
2017
in
the
global
entrepreneurship
summit.
Q
So
we
came
up
with
the
idea
of
a
platform
which
will
be
the
aggregator
platform
which
will
showcase
all
these
initiatives
at
one
place.
Now
that
does
not
mean
we
make
it
a
data
dump,
because
you
know
all
this
information
is
out
there.
You
just
have
to
google,
you
just
have
to
youtube,
so
we
wanted
to
be
better
than
that
now.
If
a
facebook
can,
you
know,
do
a
lot
of
analysis
and
give
you
a
kind
of
insights
based
on
various
searches
etc,
that
users
are
doing.
Why
can't
we
do
it?
Q
So
here
is
this
platform,
where
our
vision
is
that
we
will
a
you
know,
collate
all
the
information
out
there
about
schemes,
initiatives
by
all
agencies,
and
we
have
already
completed
the
work
for
central
government
schemes
for
state
government
schemes
and
several
advice.
Second
comes,
you
know
the
the
role
of
technology
where
we
will
use
aiml
kind
of
a
thing
to
for
a
you
know:
smart
matchmaking,
third,
a
smart
engine
which
allows
people
to
access
that
in
information
seamlessly.
Q
Fourth
have
as
little
interface.
You
know
human
interface
as
possible
so
that
through
technology
we
are
able
to,
you
know,
reach
out
to
a
large
audience.
Next
have
index
language
content
as
well
as
various
other.
You
know
availability
of
this
wap
on
various
devices
to
reach
out
to
the
community,
pan
india
and
not
be
constrained
that
only
you
have
to
you
know
only
through
a
web-based,
you
can
do
it
so
whether
a
chat
board
with
a
app,
so
all
that
needs
all.
Q
This
is
our
vision,
because
you
know
it
is
a
process,
and
next
have
you
know
things
like
mentoring,
compliance
funding
for
all
this.
Do
a
baseline
study
do
a
gap,
analysis
and
then
look
for
a
modules
which
are
outcome
oriented,
so
you
define
the
outcome
and
then
you
develop
the
you
know
various
interventions
and,
in
addition
to
all
that,
work
with
partners
on
the
ground,
we
don't
want
to
duplicate
anything.
Q
We
just
want
to
amplify
evangelize
all
the
wonderful
work
which
is
being
done,
but
in
silos
in
small
pockets
to
collaborate
and
scale
up
in
the
process
and
have
an
offline
module
also
because
of
last
two
years
you
know
because
of
the
pandemic.
Our
offline
work
got
a
bit
derailed.
We
hope
to
get
back
in
the
offline
space
as
well
and
look
towards
everybody
to
you
know,
join
hands.
So
here
the
role
of
developers
come,
they
need
to
go
on
the
platform
and
they
need
to
come
to
us
and
say
look.
Q
This
is
what
is
missing.
This
is
what
you
need
to
do.
So
I
have
explained
the
vision.
Now
the
thing
is:
do
w
wep
2.0
till
now
it
was
more
rat
hop.
Now
we
have
got
a
lot
of
interest
because
the
critical
mass
is
there
on
the
platform
going
forward.
I
I
hope
we
will
have
a
lot
of
you
know.
Action
happening
on
the
black
sea.
P
This
is
extremely
inspiring
and
especially,
I
think
when
we
see
technology
playing
a
role
and
creating
that
impact
on
on
large
initiatives
which
are
meant
for
community
for
society
upliftment.
I
think
that's,
that's,
truly
awesome
and
very,
very
inspiring.
Thank
you
so
much
ma'am
for
spending
your
time
with
us
today.
I
think
there
is
a
lot
for
for
me.
I
have
taken
I'm
taking
back
from
this
discussion
and
there's
a
lot
for
everybody
else,
who's
listening
to
you
to
come
and
contribute
back
to
our
nation
building.
Thank
you.
So
much.
Q
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
a
lot
of
your
participants
who
perhaps
are
listening
to
me
through
this
webinar.
Thank
you
very
much.
Absolutely.
D
C
D
I
am
just
trying
to
match
our
cool
indian
developer
community
and
the
coolest
projects
that
they
are
contributing
to.
You
definitely
are
a
marvel
fan,
then.
Are
you.
C
Well,
it
has
to
be
spider-man.
Do
you
know
that
oss
projects
and
libraries
on
github
are
being
used
by
some
of
the
largest
entertainment
houses
across
the
world
to
create
movies
and
magic?
And
on
that
note
viewers,
please
tweet
us
your
coolest
open
source
projects
from
india
or
your
favorite
superhero.
We
would
love
to
hear
them.
D
D
We
got
a
tweet
from
rohan
to
tweet
rohan,
says
great
to
hear
stories
from
the
trenches
from
companies
creating
products
using
open
source,
pranav,
neha,
harini
and
rushab.
That's
a
shout
out
to
our
panelist,
and
here
is
one
engaging
anchors
too.
Thank
you
so
much
looking
forward
to
more
such
tweets.
C
C
R
Hello,
everybody
and
welcome
to
our
panel
discussion
today,
which
is
on
devsecops
the
transformation,
and
my
name
is
amul
renna
and
I'm
going
to
be
the
moderator
today
and
I
am
part
of
the
github
advanced
security
team
for
asia
pacific.
R
It
gives
me
a
great
pleasure
to
welcome
the
panelists
today
for
us.
Maybe
I
could
start
with
introducing
the
panelists.
R
Is
the
chief
information
security
officer?
Satish
has
been
working
in
cyber
security
and
risk
domain
for
almost
30
years?
So
that's
that's
a
very
good
and
rich
experience
that
he
brings
us
today
and
we
look
forward
to
you
know
getting
these
pops
up.
Yes,
the
second
panelist
that
we
have
today
is
commander
praveen
kumar.
So
ravine
is
chief
information,
security
officer
with
z
and
praveen
has
recently
you
know,
he's
a
naval
veteran
and
has
recently
quit
navy
and
come
to
cv.
R
Street
praveen
also
brings
with
him
almost
20
years
of
rich
experience
in
cyber
security
and
other
warfare,
so
welcome
praveen.
We
also
have
abaya
vidya
with
us
today.
Abaya
joins
us
from
infosys
avaya.
Is
the
group
manager
information
security
will
inform
this
and
also
brings
close
to
20
years
of
experience
on
cyber
security
and
risk
last,
but
not
the
least.
We
also
have
sagar
today
with
us.
R
Sagar
narasimha
is
the
chief
information,
security
officer
of
amagi
media
and
again
brings
almost
17
years
of
experience
in
cyber
security
risk
and
consulting
so
welcome
all
the
panelists,
and
I
I'm
you
know
great
to
have
you
on
board
and
you
know
look
forward
to
talking
to
you
and
getting
your
thoughts
today
on
devsecops,
primarily,
which
is
gonna,
be
the
topic
for
discussion
today,
just
to
start
and
build
a
context.
R
You
know
from
the
days
when
application
security
was
just
about
a
penetration
testing
or
a
dynamic
testing
to
today
a
full-blown
devsecops.
You
know
implementation
where
you
have
penetration
testings,
you
have
sas,
you
have
composition,
analysis,
you
have
automation,
you
have
people
talking
about,
you
know
how
do
we
shift
security
left?
So
we've
really
come
a
very
long
way
and
I
think
many
reasons
to
the
same.
R
You
know
if
you
talk
about
what
have
been
the
real
drivers.
I
think
primarily
the
drivers
have
been
in
terms
of
data
breaches
are
on
rise,
so
60
of
successful
breaches
that
happen
today
actually
attack
your
application
layer,
and
it's
it's
really
really
very,
very
important.
If,
if
applications
are
your
most
vulnerable
areas,
then
you
know
you'd
have
to
take
care
of
your
applications
and
make
sure
that
you
secure
the
weakest
link.
R
I
think
also
in
terms
of
compliances
27001,
gdpr,
cert,
autosar,
rbi
guidelines.
I
think
regulations
and
compliances
have
been
becoming
very,
very
stringent
in
the
last
five
years
and
these
stringent
regulations
and
guidelines,
you
know,
enforce
organizations
to
look
at
application
security
very,
very
seriously
and
to
look
at
a
devsecof's
motion.
R
I
think
we
recently
went
through
a
very
bad
patch
of
forward,
but
what
covert
has
really
shown
us
is
organizations
looking
to
now
digitalize?
You
know
every
business
it
had
to
if
they
had
to
be
successful
and
they
had
to
run,
they
really
had
to.
You
know
become
digital.
They
had
to
go
on
web
applications
or
mobile
applications.
R
So
a
lot
of
application
development
started
happening
and,
with
a
lot
of
code
being
written,
there
came
in
the
probability
of
any
kind
of
vulnerability
getting
introduced,
so
that
again
has
really
put
the
bar
high
in
terms
of
looking,
you
know,
csos
and
even
the
development
teams
looking
at
trying
to
make
sure
that
these
applications
are
secure.
So
that's
very,
very
important.
R
I
think
few
other
areas
are
number
of
releases.
I
remember
talking
to
a
few
development
teams.
You
know
five
six
years
back,
I
think
the
number
of
releases
we
saw
per
year
generally
used
to
be
two
three
or
maximum
four,
but
now
we
should
talk
to
development
teams.
The
kind
of
releases-
or
the
number
of
you
know,
releases
that
are
happening
today
are
somewhere
like
one
one
in
a
week
or
probably
hundred
in
a
year.
R
So
if
you
have
so
much
of
code
being
written
and
getting
attached
to
a
particular
application,
the
probability
of
a
vulnerability
or
an
issue
getting
introduced
goes
up
that
much
so
again
brings
in
the
need
for
use
of
you
know:
application
security
or
automating.
The
application
security
I
think
open
source
has
been.
Is
being
used
a
lot
these
days,
I
think
almost
70
to
80
percent
of
the
code
that
form
composition
of
any
software
today
generally
is
open
source,
while
open
source
is
the
way
to
go
ahead.
R
But
again,
open
source
comes
in
with
its
own
challenges,
its
own
issues,
so
I
think
that's
again,
something
which
we
need
to
really
look
at
very
very
seriously.
So
these
are
few
drivers
that
probably
we
have
seen
which
have
really
pushed
the
transformation
in
terms
of
devsecops
and
why
organizations
today
are
getting
very,
very
serious
about
application,
security
and
overall,
having
implementing
a
you
know
true
devsecops
initiative
in
their
organization.
So
with
that
you
know
I
would.
R
I
would
want
to
start
off
with
you
know,
asking
few
questions
to
the
panelists
and
understanding
and
knowing
their
thoughts
on
what's
happening.
So
maybe
I'll
go
with
the
satisfac,
so
satish
you've
been
with
in
moby
for
some
time
now
and
you
know
in
bobi-
is
primarily
into
mobile
advertising,
so
I'm
sure
you've
gone
through
a
devsecops
transformation
journey.
So
maybe
you
know
if
you
could
just
give
us
some
idea
on
how
was
your
devsecops
journey
and
what
were
the
challenges
that
you
really
faced
in
implementing
devsecops
in
your
organization.
S
Sure
ramon
thanks
for
having
me
here.
So,
in
fact,
I
think
you
touched
upon
most
of
the
areas.
In
fact
today,
no
doubt
application
security
is
one
of
the
biggest
driver,
especially
in
moby,
being
a
tech
focused
company
and
a
lot
of
code
being
written
and
a
lot
of
innovation.
In
fact,
I
think
that
drives
the
whole
business,
pure
tech
focused,
of
course,
cloud
focused,
and
so,
while
moving
was
around
in
a
devops
journey,
but
I
think
devsecops.
S
In
fact,
I'm
sure
I
think
devsecops
has
evolved
over
a
period
of
time,
in
fact
just
to
see
how
the
overall,
because
fundamentally
security
was
always
like
it
does.
If
I
can
use
the
word,
security
was
like
a
retrofitting
into
the
overall
build
cycle,
but
I
think
that's
where
the
whole
deficiox
emerged
right.
If
you
look
at
the
emerged
as
an
approach,
in
fact,
overall
approach,
how
we
can
address
security
concerns
at
an
early
stage
and
in
the
overall
the
build
and,
of
course,
the
whole
the
cicd
pipeline.
S
So,
while
absolutely
while
the
speed
is,
is
one
of
the
key
key
driver,
but
again
cesos
are
so
while
the
tech
or
nations
understand
the
need
for
security,
but
but
but
in
the
whole
agility
more
right
many
times
in
fact,
teams
do
not
understand
or
realize.
So
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
lot
of
mind
shift
it's
a
lot
of
the
change
in
approach,
and
it's
all
about
how
do
we
incorporate
the
whole
security
in
the
overall
development
life
cycle?
S
R
R
You
know
changing
the
mindset
of
developers
who
really
resist
you
know
use
of
application
security
because
that's
an
that's
a
burden
for
them
as
that
they
feel
but
yeah
shifting
that
mindset
and
you
know
getting
them
on,
boarded
and
trying
to
communicate
to
them
that
yes,
this
is
a
must-
and
this
is
very
important,
is,
I
think,
that's
the
real
transformation
that
we're
looking
at
thanks
atheist.
R
So
you
know
again,
I'm
sure,
I'm
not
sure
if
how
relevant
it
is
in
in
navy,
but
just
to
get
an
idea
from
you
in
terms
of
you
know
how,
generally,
when
you
see
engineering
teams
and
security
teams,
you
see
a
lot
of
friction
as
we
were
discussing
and
understanding.
So
how
do
you
see
you
know
bridging
these
gaps
with
respect
to
you
know
getting
both
the
teams,
engineering
and
security
teams
together?
So
do
you
see
any
you
know
waste?
T
Ravine,
yes,
I'm
all
okay!
You
you
rightly
brought
out
that
the
journey
of
application
security
per
se
over
the
last
20
years
has
changed
you're
the
one
who
probably
has
been
through
this
journey
for
the
longest
period
of
time.
Let's
take
a
step
backwards.
Traditionally,
in
the
software
development
life
cycle,
developers
used
to
develop
core
testers
to
test
the
code,
then,
at
I
would
say
somewhere
in
the
middle
of
2000,
early
2000s.
In
fact,
maybe
security
folks
stepped
in
and
said.
Okay,
let's
start
looking
at
security.
Let's
start
we
started
talking
vulnerabilities.
T
Then
much
later
came
the
concept
of
devsec
ops
wherein
we
were
trying
to
integrate
with
the
developers,
whereas
before
this
we
were
trying
to
integrate
with
the
testing
forks,
the
ratio
behind
this
is
very
clear.
The
cost
of
fixing
vulnerabilities
at
the
beginning
of
any
you
know.
Software
development
life
cycle
is
much
lesser
than
the
cost
of
fixing
the
vulnerabilities
at
a
later
stage.
I
personally
feel
it
is
easier
said
than
done.
The
reason
being
the
core
expertise
of
a
developer
is
to
build
functionalities
right.
They
are
largely
looking
at
functional
requirements
of
the
applications.
T
They
are
running
against
time
to
be
able
to
bring
build
the
applications
as
per
the
requirements
of
the
customers.
Suddenly,
the
apsec
team
jumping
into
and
saying,
hey
look.
These
are
the
security
vulnerabilities.
You
need
to
look
into
more
often
than
not
for
a
developer.
This
is
greek
and
latin.
You
know
they
don't
really
understand
how
these
vulnerabilities
would
affect
in
in
the
longer
period
of
time.
T
We
at
ze
are
looking
at
a
three
prong
strategy
tools,
technology
and
processes
get
the
right
set
of
tools
which
are
easy
to
use,
make
them
available
to
the
developer,
so
that
you
know
vulnerabilities
are
highlighted
at
a
much
earlier
stage.
It's
one
of
the
examples
is
the
integration
of
github
advanced
security,
which
we
have
recently
undertaken.
T
T
We
have
a
team
of
product
managers,
development,
development
teams,
ui
ux
experts,
data
data
scientists,
as
well
as
cyber
security
specialists
as
part
of
the
sports.
So
in
simple
words,
the
sport
is
some
some
sort
of
a
self-sustained.
You
know
fully
equipped
to
architect
design
develop,
deploy
any
given
functionality.
T
In
other
words,
what
we
are
trying
to
build
at
ze
is
a
relationship
between
the
security
and
the
development
team,
largely
in
in
most
of
the
organization
is
transactional,
whereas
in
in
in
my
organization
where
we
are,
we
are,
you
know
grouped
as
spots.
It
is
a
holistic
kind
of
you
know,
relationship,
that's
what
we
have
seen
in
the
last
three
to
four
months
is
we
have
been
able
to
reduce
the
that
so-called
friction
between
the
development
team
and
the
security
into
a
large
extent.
R
I
think
you
hit
the
nail,
you
know
it's
the
relationship,
it's
it's.
Basically,
the
collaboration
between
the
two
teams:
how
to
get
them
together
to
make
them
work,
but
you
know
empower
empowering
the
developers,
training
them
guiding
them
on.
You
know
thoughts,
so
perfect,
perfect
thanks
a
lot
on
that.
So
by
moving
on
to
you,
you've
been
with
infosys
for
some
time
now,
you've
been
managing
their
devsecops
and
I'm
sure
I
know
you
for
last
five
years
and
I've
seen
you
know
the
devsecops
transformation
that
has
gone
through
in
infosys.
R
So
maybe
what,
according
to
you,
is
the
role
of
automation
in
application
security,
because
if
you
see
today,
a
lot
of
organizations
still
rely
a
lot
on
manual.
U
Hi
everyone
having
me
here
yeah
so
when
it
comes
to
the
challenges
before
challenges,
probably
I'll
talk
about
the
application
security,
automation
itself,
like
you
said,
the
post
pandemic
work
from
home
scenario,
forced
us
to
concentrate
more
on
application,
because
application
is
the
backbone
at
imposes
it's
not
only
about
the
applications
that
importions
use.
U
It's
also
about
the
deliverables
that
we
give
to
our
clients,
and
we
have
to
ensure
that
the
all
these
applications,
the
internal
ones
and
the
deliverables
that
we
give
to
our
clients,
they're
all
secured
and
the
post
pandemic
scenario,
told
us
that
taught
us
that
we
need
to
look
at
these
applications
for
every
sprint.
The
sprints
were
probably
two
weeks
apart
and
to
go
at
that
scale.
U
To
perform
assessments
at
that
scale
was
really
difficult
if
we
were
in
a
manual
assessment
mode
and
we
had
to
move
into
our
automated
assessment
mode
and
when
we
are
talking
about
automated
assessment,
it
is
not
only
one
thing.
It's
about
sas
dust,
I
asked
now,
so
there
were
so
many
assessments
that
we
had
to
do,
and
automation
was
the
only
way
to
go,
and
when
we
talk
about
automation,
we
were
not
only
talking
about
shift
left.
U
We
were
talking
about
shift
everywhere,
wherever
it
is,
the
complete
phase
of
the
life
cycle
manage
the
software
life
cycle
management.
We
had
to
be
everywhere
to
ensure
that
the
security
of
our
applications
are
managed,
and
for
that
you
know,
rather
than
talking
about
challenges,
I
would
rather
talk
about
the
focus
areas
that
we
looked
at.
One
was,
of
course,
the
invention.
You
know,
because
we
wanted
to
look
at
the
complete
inventory
of
applications.
U
We
had
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
applications
in
the
ecosystem
that
we
had
to
bring
it
all
together
and
one
one.
The
second
thing
was
the
technology
focus
so
infosys.
As
such,
we
had
multiple
technologies.
We
have
multiple
technologies
that
we
are
working
on
and
the
coverage
technology
that
can
cover
everything
into
end
is
also
something
that
was
challenging.
So
we
had
to
look
at
multiple
things
which
can
cover
that.
U
So
these
two
predominantly
was
our
focus
area,
and
the
third
thing
is
how
the
detection
part
of
it
and
the
remediation
part
these
two
are
in
line
with
each
other,
so
detection
does
not
have
any
use
if
the
remediation
is
also
at
the
same
level
of
it
and
to
enable
the
developers
to
be
able
to
remediate
quickly
so
that
they
are
able
to
bring
their
code
to
market
at
a
faster
rate.
That
was
our
focus
area
as
well.
U
So
these
were
some
of
the
focus
areas
that
we
did,
that
we
focused
on
for
automating.
Our
application
security
related
aspects.
R
Yeah,
I
agree
with
you.
It
is.
It
is
the
remediation
rate
and
not
detection,
because
if
you
may
have
the
best
of
technologies-
and
you
know
you
may
identify
thousands
of
vulnerabilities,
but
if
they're
not
fixed
before
you
move
your
application
into
production,
it's
it's
basically,
no
use.
In
fact,
the
industry
trend
today
is
that
in
the
first
one
week
of
identifying
these
vulnerabilities,
only
15
percent
of
these
vulnerabilities
get
fixed
and
that
number
goes
up
to
around
45
percent
in
the
next
three
months.
R
So
we're
looking
for
a
solution
which
can
help
organizations,
you
know
not
detect
but
remediate.
I
think
that's,
that's
that's
a
very,
very
critical
thing
to
look
at
thanks,
avaya,
so
moving
on
to
sagar
stagger,
I
think,
as
an
organization
as
a
cso
or
a
security
team.
I
think
very,
very
important
aspect
is
security
governance
to
look
at
the
health
of
applications
in
your
organization,
so
different
organizations
take
different
routes.
There
are
governance
tools.
There
are
multiple,
you
know,
tools
that
are
developed
in-house.
So
how?
R
M
Hey
all
thanks
for
having
me
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
so
to
answer
your
question.
Basically,
a
marquee
is
an
extremely
dynamic
and
an
extremely
agile
company,
and
we
are
extremely
business
driven
in
the
sense
that,
as
long
as
features
are
working,
it's
good
to
go
so,
which
means
we
have
a
versatile
set
of
tools,
different
platforms,
a
diverse
set
of
open
source
tools
that
we
consume,
and
you
know
our
developers
writing
in
all
possible
languages
which
effectively
means
that
we
from
a
security
standpoint
and
a
securities
tool
standpoint.
M
We
are
generating
a
lot
of
vulnerabilities
alerts,
observations
and
findings
and,
as
these
happen
across
different
tools,
there
are
different
severity
categories.
There
are
different
parameters
based
on
which
each
tool
categorizes
the
severity
across
you
know
a
particular
piece
of
code
or
an
application.
M
So
there
are
two
two
of
two
ways
we
are
trying
to
govern
this
one.
While
we
are
exploring
a
standard
industry
standard
tool
which
could
actually
aggregate
all
of
these
observations
and
standardize
them
across
the
organization's
risk
management
framework.
While
we
are
still
doing
that,
we
are
also
trying
to
automate.
M
M
Meanwhile
va
pt,
as
usual,
is
always
one
of
the
most
reliable
sources
of
our
capability
in
terms
of
identifying
the
security
posture
of
each
other
of
each
product.
So
just
before
the
product
goes
live,
or
you
know
periodically.
We
make
sure
that
there's
a
vapt
run
on
every
product
to
ensure
that
its
security
posture
is
compliant
to
monkey
standards.
I
R
I
agree
with
you
on
that,
thanks
for
you
know
giving
us
that
idea
on
how
do
you
funnel
and
get
everything
on
a
single
dashboard
to
present
it
to
the
top
management,
because
if
they
are
satisfied,
your
applications
are
secure.
You
know
you
get
more
budgets
so
moving
on
to
satish
now
satish,
maybe
you
know
as
we're
talking
about
devsecops
and
if
you
talk
about
website
cops,
you
know
what
comes
in
our
mind
is
shifting
security
left
moving.
I
think
praveen
spoke
about
it
but
moving.
R
You
know:
secure
security
from
the
cso
team
to
the
developers
and
helping
developers
identify
vulnerabilities
in
their
workflows
in
their
day-to-day.
You
know
job
when
they're
writing
the
code.
So
what?
What
are
your
thoughts
on
the
same
and
are
you
seeing?
Have
you
implemented
the
same
in
your
organization
and
are
you
seeing
some
impact
on
the
developer
productivity
per
se
by
shifting
security
left.
S
Yes,
somehow,
I
think
this
has
been
always
a
thought
or
a
discussion
like
it's
important
to
shift
left
because
see
that's
where
at
the
early
stage
you
should
start
thinking
security
and
coming
back
to
developers.
I
think
a
lot
of
training.
In
fact,
education
needs
to
be
done
because,
as
I
think,
praveen
and
other
families
said
fundamentally,
developers
are
there
to
write
code.
Their
focus
is
on
functionality,
not
in
security.
S
So
so
I
think
that's
where,
while
it
is
not
that
they
don't
understand,
but
then,
as
you
said
rightly,
the
productivity
piece
comes
in.
They
may
feel
that
okay,
this
is
one
more
additional
burden
for
me
or
I
think
that's
where
the
tools,
I
think
the
tool
said
the
new.
S
If
I
can
say
the
new
whole
evolution
happened
where
and
I
call
it
as
build
time
checks
or
in
the
id
itself
right.
If,
at
all,
there
are
tools
you
have,
you
have
the
ability
to
go
and
see
that,
while
the
developer
writes
the
code
at
the
there
itself,
imagine
now:
okay,
first
thing,
imagine
the
education
is
done
and
the
developer
is
aware
of
what
exactly
how
you
need
to
ensure
that
you
need
to
write
secure
code.
I
think
that's
where
that's
that's!
S
The
most
of
the
organizations
are
putting
efforts
in
trying
to
see
how
they
can
take
security
at
much
early
stage,
of
course,
right
from
the
early
design
board.
If
I
can
say
at
the
design
stage
at
the
drawing
board
itself,
I'm
sure
traditionally
also
we
should
talk
about
threat,
modeling
and
that
still
exists,
but
coming
from
the
developer
perspective,
I
think
it's
very
important
to
do
a
lot
of
training
awareness,
education.
It's
not
the
the
standard,
generic
education
very
focused
fat
training
for
the
developer.
S
Just
to
make
him
aware
that
how
why
it's
important
for
him
to
write,
sick
and
safe
and
secure
code?
That
is
one
sort
of
thing
and
second
provide
the
right
tool
set,
of
course,
because
that's
where
life
is
going
to
be
much
more
easier
for
the
developer
so
that
he
understands
and
then
of
course
the
the
next
as
part
of
the
build
checks.
S
R
Moving
on
to
praveen
praveen
again,
I
would
need
your
quick
thoughts
on
a
lot
of
open
source
is
being
used
today
by
developers,
and
I
said
this
is
this
is
much
that's
a
way
of
life,
but
how
are
you
managing
open
source
issues,
security
risks
because
it's
it's
a
very,
very
important
if
70
of
your
code
is
open
source,
you
know
you
need
to
be
very,
very
clear
on
how
do
you
manage
it?
So
what
are
you
doing
in
your
organization
to
manage
open
source
risks.
T
Thanks
so
much
yeah
open
source
risks
have
been,
you
know,
talked
about
in
various
forums,
and
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
talking
about
it
as
a
risk,
but,
as
you
rightly
said,
it
is
there
to
it's.
It's
there's
no
two
ways
about
it.
With
with
the
passing
years,
the
amount
of
open
source
code,
which
will
be
part
of
applications,
is
only
going
to
increase.
T
But
what
is
the
problem
with
the
open
source
code?
Let's
talk
about
that
fly
I
mean
largely
speaking.
The
nature
of
open
source
model
is
that
open
source
projects
make
their
code
available
to
everyone,
which
means
that
open
source
community
can
flag
potential,
exploits
they
find
in
the
code
and
give
open
zones
project
managers
time
to
fix
the
issue
sounds
great
right
as
a
as
a
security
practitioner.
You
know
there
are
a
whole
bunch
of
people
who
are
looking
at
security
of
that
part
of
code.
So
largely
where
is
the
problem?
T
I
feel
the
problem
is
largely
about
how
we
are
managing
the
open
source
code.
The
problem
is
not
with
the
open
source
code,
but
how
we
are
managing
it.
You
know
whenever
somebody
talks
about
open
source
code.
It
reminds
me
of
that
famous
you
know:
2017
equifax
breach.
You
know
all
of
us
know
right
they
were.
T
They
were
around
140
million
personal
data,
which
was
exposed,
and
there
was
a
huge
you
know
human
cry
about
that
particular
incident
and
most
of
us
know
that
was
actually
related
to
open
source
code
and
that's
where
people
started,
believing
that
the
problem
is
with
the
open
source
code.
But
the
problem
inherently
was
not
in
the
open
source
code.
It's
about
how
the
open
source
code
was
managed
by
equifax
in
those
days,
and
all
of
us
know
that
the
moment
of
vulnerability
is
flagged
in
an
open
source
repository
and
it
gets
remediated.
T
So,
as
I
said,
the
problem
is
not
with
the
open
source
code.
It
is
about
how
we
manage
it.
You
know
our
patch
cycles.
The
way
we
keep.
You
know
how
we
account
the
open
source
software
in
our
applications.
T
This
is
where
we
need
to
you,
know,
mature,
and
you
know,
having
our
inventory
clearly
flagging
those
parts
of
open
source
code
which
have
you
know
which
have
been
abandoned.
You
know
a
huge
part
of
open
source
codes
are
not
maintained
throughout
the
life
cycle.
There
always
comes
a
period
of
time
once
you
know
this.
The
support
system
for
that
open
source
repository
is
not
available
anymore,
so
which
means
each.
M
T
T
Libraries
instead
of
you
know
importing,
is
as
a
library
and
having
a
having
a
you
know,
repository
of
that
we
tend
to
copy
and
paste
it,
which
means
there
is
no
record
of
that
open
source
software
which
has
been
used
in
the
code.
So
largely
speaking,
proliferation
of
open
source
components
is
theirs
to
stay.
There
is
no
two
ways
about
it.
What
we
need
to
probably
do
is
to
have
policies
and
procedures
to
support
and
manage
them
efficiently.
R
Thanks
thanks
praveen,
that
was
you
know
amazing.
I
am.
I
would
have
loved
to
continue
this
discussion
this.
This
was
so
knowledgeable
and
and
learned
so
much
about
what
organizations
today
are
doing
across,
but
unfortunately
we
have
a
time
has
come
to
end,
and
I
would
like
to
before
finishing.
I
would
like
to
again
thank
you
all
for
taking
out
time,
and
you
know
joining
us
for
this
discussion
on
devsecops
and
I'm
sure
all
the
viewers
would
make
good
use
of
this
knowledge
and
would
benefit
from
it
thanks.
C
C
Well,
I
have
so
many
examples
in
my
own
life
about
how
code
is
empowering
us.
It
was
amazing
to
see
how
quickly
all
the
kids
around
us
just
took
to
online
tools
for
school
and
to
hang
out
with
their
friends.
You
know
I
just
did
a
trip
recently
and
you
could
just
translate
the
signboards
and
the
menu
cards
using
your
phone.
Oh,
oh
and
I
have
a
nice
one,
closer
home.
I
just
set
up
my
mom's
phone
to
accept
voice
commands,
and
now
she
talks
your
phone
and
hindi
to
make
phone
calls.
D
C
C
Yeah,
it
looks
like
carry
cool,
dude
is
tweeting,
hashtag,
github,
constellation
open
source
and
community
is
the
key
to
code,
is
building
india
initiative
from
scaling
the
project
to
the
product
in
the
form
of
a
startup
is
the
journey
that
github
as
a
platform
providing
github
india
yeah?
That's
true.
We
all
would
love
for
you
to
use
the
platform
as
well
and
tweet
and
engage
with
us
on
github
discussions.
D
P
Thank
you
really
delighted
to
be
here
for
the
next
30
minutes,
with
a
really
awesome
panel
of
experts
and
thought
leaders
in
their
respective
space.
The
topic
that
we
are
discussing
today
is
building
talent
and
skills
for
coding.
The
new
india
there's.
No
doubt
that
india
is
the
tech
capital
of
the
world
and
fueling.
This
leadership
is
our
brain
power
and
human
talent.
The
sector
is
not
only
generating
huge
employment,
but
is
also
adding
thousands
of
successful
entrepreneurs
every
single
day.
P
P
We
have
seen
many
tech
companies
moving
or
starting
to
set
up
centers
in
other
countries
as
well,
and
at
this
point
I
want
to
turn
to
our
experts
for
their
thoughts.
I
I
welcome
all
of
you,
but
my
first
question,
who
is
to
amit
ranjan,
who
co-founded
slideshare
in
20
2006.?
P
Was
it
c
o
o
till
it
was
acquired
by
lincoln
and
later
amid
joined
government's
digital
india
program
and
has
been
architecting?
Some
of
the
very
impactful
programs
like
digilocker
having
huge
impacts
of
millions
of
citizens,
welcome
it.
P
You
wear
multiple
hats.
You
have
founded
companies,
you
are
creating
products
investing
in
lot
of
companies
right
now
that
I
know
so.
What
are
your
thoughts
about
the
talent,
demand
and
supply
gap
that
we
have
and
what
are
you
guiding
startups
to
navigate
this
gap?.
V
Right
right,
so
you
know
the
whole
issue
or
problem
of
hiring
the
right
people
for
your
organization,
whether
it
is
a
startup,
whether
it
is
a
government
or
whether
it
is
a
large
corporation
that
tends
to
have
tremendous
mind
share
in
terms
of
you
know
your
daily
operational
activities
and
it
kind
of
assumes
even
more
importance
in
case
of
startups,
and
I
remember
way
back
you
know
in
my
early
days
of
slideshare.
One
of
the
lessons
that
I
learned
was
that
startup
founders
are
nothing
but
glorified.
Recruiters
right,
I
mean
so.
V
50
of
the
job
of
any
founder
is
just
making
sure
that
you
can
get
the
right
talent
into
your
organization
and
you
can
train
them
and
you
can
actually
work
with
them.
So
my
advice
always
to
startups
or
to
you
know,
young
companies
is
to
kind
of
you
know
whenever
you
are
thinking
about
recruitment.
V
You
know
henry
ford
had
this
this
great
saying
almost
100
years
back
when
he
said
that
the
most
important
asset
in
any
organization
is
its
people,
and
it
is
so
surprising
that
the
people
do
not
show
up
on
the
balance
sheet
right.
So
if
you
go
by
that
saying
that
the
people
is
the
people
function,
the
people
you
know
asset
is
what
really
determines
the
the
future
of
any
organization,
and
so
you
got
to
think
of
the
the
talent
problem,
as
essentially
a
people
problem
right.
V
What
you're
trying
to
do
is
not
just
hire
people,
not
just
kind
of
you
know,
get
them
into
the
organization,
but
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
to
build
the
right
culture.
The
culture
that
you
have
in
your
organization
should
kind
of
become
like
the
talent
magnet
in
the
ecosystem
that
you
are
in.
There
will
be
people
who
will
be
working
in
your
organization,
they'll
be
leaving
the
organization
they'll
be
going
out,
they'll
be
talking
about
it.
You
know.
V
Social
media
is
great
at
amplifying
some
of
these
experiences
and
messages
people
talk
about
their
experiences
on
social
media
platforms.
They
write
blogs,
they
post
it,
they
tell
their
friends.
So
what
you
really
want
is
to
kind
of
at
the
at
the
at
the
foundational
level
focus
on
building
the
right
culture
in
the
organization,
so
that
the
people
who
you
attract,
who
you
hire
essentially
kind
of
amplify
the
message
around
about
your
company
in
the
external
world
and
that
in
turn
kind
of
builds.
V
You
know
some
kind
of
a
magnetic
force
in
attracting
the
best
people
into
the
company.
So
once
you
do
that,
that
is
when
you
know
you
will
be
successful
in
getting
a
steady
stream
of
the
best
people
who
will
say
hey.
I
want
to
actually
come
and
work
in
this
organization
because
it's
not
just
a
one-time
problem
right
recruitment
is
not
just
you
know,
getting
people
one
shot
or
at
one
time,
and
then
you
know
kind
of
moving
recruitment
is
a
constant
thing.
There'll
be
people
who
will
be
coming.
People
would
leave.
V
You
need
to
replenish
them.
As
the
organization
grows,
you'll
see
that
startups
essentially
outgrow
themselves.
You
know
startups
from
start
from
a
zero
base.
They
go
to
one.
Then
they
go
to
five.
Then
they
go
to
ten.
Fifty
hundred
at
every
stage
of
the
journey.
You
know
you
are
essentially
re
living
and
rebuilding
the
organization.
You
will
need
different
kinds
of
skill
sets.
You
will
need
different
kinds
of
people,
so
the
key
thing
here
and
the
message
that
I
want
to
kind
of
leave
the
audience
with.
V
Is
that
don't
think
of
the
talent
or
the
recruitment
function,
just
at
the
hiring
at
that
or
at
the
recruitment
level?
Think
of
it
at
a
broader
people
level.
Think
in
terms
that
what
does
it
take
to
build
the
right
culture
and
the
culture
that
you
build
in
your
organization,
the
culture
that
you
inculcate
kind
of
should
become
like
the
magnet
of
attracting
the
best
people
towards
towards
your
organization.
P
Wonderful,
wonderful,
I
think
that
that
was
really
really
insightful.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
thoughts.
Before
going
to
the
second
question,
I'm
sure
all
of
us
have
heard
about
aicte.
P
I
have
been
personally
involved
with
this
institution
for
the
last
15
years,
and
I
must
say
today:
aict
is
completely
transformed.
It's
one
of
the
most
dynamic
regulatory
bodies
in
our
country.
I
have
seen
the
council
members
or,
and
everybody
really
open
to
partner
with
every
stakeholder.
P
They
want
to
imbibe
and
share
the
best
practices
and,
most
importantly,
you
know
they
are
creating
the
impact
that
we
need
for
empowering
one
of
the
largest
education
sector
in
the
world
and
truly
the
person
who
is
subtly
driving
all
this
goodness
and
change
is
here
with
us
today
really
honored
to
have
you,
dr
buddha
chandrasekhar.
My
heartiest
welcome
to
you.
So
you
know,
I
think
we
have
talked
a
lot
and
we
often
see
these
reports
about
the
the
talent
gap
that
we
have
in
our
country.
P
So
if
you
could,
you
know,
spend
some
light
on
on
your
thoughts
on
on
what
actions
government
is
taking
at
their
level
to
really
bridge
this
gap.
W
Yeah,
thank
you,
github
team
members.
I'm
really
delighted
to
be
here,
as
you
know,
under
making
india
initiative
and
perform
incentive
skills.
India
has
received
more
than
375
billion
us
dollars
as
an
investment
in
last
eight
years,
which
means
that
india
is
going
to
be
a
global
manufacturing
hub,
but
empowering
the
seven
crore
higher
education,
students
and
recent
graduates
to
access
the
industry,
aligned
courses
and
skilling
and
upskilling
their
key
for
so
this
continuous
upskilling
process
is
going
to
be
a
driving
driving
force
for
making
india
the
global
digital
talent
hub.
W
So,
interestingly,
if
you
see
the
recent
skill,
india,
skill
reports,
1989
2019
and
20,
it
states
one
very
important,
interesting
ingredient,
saying
that
only
46
percent
of
the
students
are
found
to
be
employable.
I
think
you
know
we
need
to.
We
must
accept
that
the
old
national
education
policy
is
more
towards
creating
a
worker
than
an
innovator
researcher
or
a
startup
or
an
entrepreneur.
That's
the
reason.
We
have
very
few
entrepreneurs-
and
you
know
the
startup
culture
is
not
grown
because
that's
the
way
the
old
education
policy
was
defined,
but
now
the
new
education
policy.
W
Because
till
now
the
old
education
policy
used
to
assume
that
every
student
is
same
and
used
to
deliver
the
content
of
the
similar
content
in
a
similar
format
to
all
the
students.
So,
as
you
know,
every
student
is
unique
in
nature,
so
for
them
the
the
way
they
learn
is
different.
So
what
we
did
on
the
national
education
policy
2020,
we
started
customizing,
adopting
and
personalizing
the
educational
system
so
that
the
student
will
adopt
the
content,
whichever
he
likes.
W
Let's
say
I'm
pretty
good
in
learning
through
videos,
so
I
will
get
the
content
more
on
the
video
side
and
if,
if
you
are
pretty
much
interested
on
the
reset
side,
then
you
will
get
more
research
oriented
material
so
that
your
understanding
level
of
the
subject
will,
you
know,
will
increase
and
another
main
ingredient
is
that
for
the
national
education
policy
2020
is
it
has
more
focus
on
the
skill
based
education
and
we
want
to
eliminate
or
reduce
the
gap
between
the
industry
requirements
and
and
the
academia,
because
still
now
what
is
happening,
the
student
comes
out
of
the
knowledge
I
mean
out
of
the
college,
with
knowledge
and
without
any
practical
experience
of
the
industry.
W
So
he
don't
have
any
communication
skills.
He
don't
have
a
professional
skills.
You
don't
have
a
practical
approach,
he
don't
know
what
is
happening
in
the
industry,
so
the
minute
he
jumps
into
the
industry.
You
know
he's
not
fitting
into
the
industry
requirements.
So
now,
from
the
eighth
standard
onwards,
we
started
implementing
the
occasional
courses.
We
started
doing
more
hands-on
training.
We
are
doing
a
cross
specialization,
which
is
very,
very
important
and
we
are
doing
a
mentoring
sessions.
W
We
are
giving
more
employable
based
opportunities
like
internship
opportunities,
where
the
student
works
with
more
than
three
to
four
industries,
slash
embassies.
You
know
when
they
are
in
college
and
once
he
comes
out
of
the
college
you
know.
If
he
wants
to,
he
is
interested,
then
he
can
do
an
apprenticeship
opportunity
where
he
can
work
with
an
industry.
So
we
are
doing
all
this.
W
You
know
various
initiatives
in
order
to
empower
our
students,
and
our
intention
is
very,
very
simple.
We
want
to
give
only
the
best
of
the
best
to
the
students
faculty,
as
well
as
to
the
industry,
as
we
see
that
is
using
under
make
in
india
process.
We
are
getting
investments
not
only
on
ite,
bpm
and
kpos,
because
you
know
that
is
where
our
strongest
area,
but
now
we
are
getting
investments
on
auto
components:
automobiles,
aviation,
biotechnology,
chemicals,
food
processing,
leather,
media,
railways,
roads
and
highways,
renewable
energy.
W
I
mean
what
it
really
means
is
our
opportunities
for
our
students
are
huge.
So
that's
where
we
have
taken
a
pledge
that
we
will
give.
We
will
prepare
all
our
young
minds
for
future,
so
we
have
identified
30
technologies,
you
know
which
can
rule
the
world
for
next
15
to
20
years,
so
from
artificial
intelligence
to
iot,
to
blockchain,
to
big
data,
automation,
robotics,
you
know
immersive
air,
vr,
media
cloud
computing.
W
You
know,
I'm
just
naming
few
health
technologies,
wireless
technologies
touch
technologies,
quantum
computing,
etc
edge
computing,
and
you
know
working
on
new
sensor
based
proximity,
location
based,
so
we
have
identified
such
30
technologies
and
started
skilling
and
upskilling
our
students
so
that
they
are
going
to
be
industry
ready.
So
these
are
the
couple
of
initiatives.
W
So
this
is
the
way
we
are
transforming
because
you
know
until
till
date
we
are
teaching,
but
now
we
want
to
transfer
till
not
we
are
giving
an
education.
We
want
to
empower.
You
know
we
want
to
lead
the
entire
thing,
using
five
pillars
of
national
education
policy,
which
call
as
access
quality,
equity,
affordability
and
accountability.
W
P
Absolutely
sir,
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
information,
but
I
have
personally
seen
the
impact
on
students
of
the
internship
program
that
you're
trying
it's
phenomenal.
I
think
that's
what
is
really
going
to
bridge
the
the
gap
that
we
call
about
between
the
academy
and
industry.
So
thank
you
very
much.
P
Our
next
panelist
is
someone
whom
I
have
been
watching
from
several
years.
He
is
the
ceo
of
india's
biggest
developer
community
company
having
a
community.
B
P
I
recently
came
across
a
report
which
mentioned
about
260
million
jobs
will
be
replaced
or
augmented
technology,
and
this
indicates
a
huge
need
for
upskilling
and
reskilling
talent,
something
what
dr
buddha
was
just
mentioning.
What
are
you
hearing
from
your
customers,
especially
on
the
corporate
side
or
startups
or
mncs?
What
are
their
requirements?
What
are
they
asking
you
to
do.
X
Please
tech
company
we're
working
with
startups
for
a
while
now
and
all
of
us
have,
as
this
need
of
skilling,
rescaling
up
skilling
their
existing
workforce
and
that's
something.
That's
that's
good
for
the
ecosystem
per
se,
because
if
I
were
to
put
myself
in
other
shoes,
hiring
as
amits
also
said,
is
a
problem
for
us
and
then
retaining
also
is
a
problem
for
us,
the
size
and
scale
of
various
startups.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
emphasis.
X
Over
70
million
dollars
is
being
formed
by
amazon
to
scale
their
10,
000
workforces
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
large
companies
are
have
already
started.
Skilling
reskilling,
their
other.
Their
existing
workforces
startups
are
also
now
slowly
but
gradually
catching
up.
So
we
see
a
lot
of
these
hackathons
and
knowledge
sessions
being
organized
by
large
unicorn
startups,
currently
to
engage
with
existing
workforce.
X
Add
knowledge
to
them
add
a
layer
of
learning
technology
to
them,
changing
their
their
their
the
field
of
domain
of
work
inside
their
organization,
helping
them
acquire
more
skills
as
part
of
the
same
organization
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
X
So
amazing
work
is
being
done
at
the
at
the
back
or
supported
by
aicte
at
the
at
the
college
level,
but
but
the
change
or
the
movement
or
the
or
the
or
the
ball
has
started
rolling
in
terms
of
people,
putting
in
lot
of
emphasis
on
skilling
and
re-skilling
as
part
of
any
organization
and
as
part
of
retaining
and
and
training
the
existing
workforce.
P
P
We
talk
about
aadhaar,
we
talk
about
upi,
we
talk
about
digilocker
cohen,
so
many
and
you
know,
whenever
I
go
and
talk
to
my
colleagues
and
friends
outside
india,
about
the
impact
of
upi
or
safe
safety
and
security,
I
have
because
I
have
an
app
really.
You
know
enabling
contract
racing
during
covet.
Really,
you
know,
has
my
head
up
high.
You
have
been
involved
in
many
of
those
personally
and
you
have
built
some
of
them
on
your
own.
P
We
obviously
want
to
see
a
lot
of
more
innovation
coming
out
of
india,
which
impacts
the
billion.
You
know
billions
of
people
in
the
country
and
outside
the
country.
Also,
what
is
going
to
be
your
guidance
to
our
young
audience
here
on?
How
do
we
build
such
kind
of
project
products
and
platforms.
V
Say
that
india
has
really
been
at
the
forefront
of
building
the
citizen-centric
modern
age,
new
age
technology,
oriented
platforms
that
have
a
direct
impact
on
you
know
on
governance
systems
and
whether
it
is
you
know,
aadhaar
or
it
is
upi
or
it
is
digi,
locker
or-
and
there
is
a
whole
lot
of
others
as
well,
and
I
have
been
fortunate
fortunate
enough
to
you
know
to
have
been
positioned
in
the
ministry
of
I.t,
where
I
was
directly
involved
with
you
know,
dg
locker
and
the
others
I
have
kind
of
you
know,
had
the
opportunity
to
see
and
experience
from
very
close
quarters,
and
you
know
going
back
to
the
point
that
you
know
we
are
discussing
here
and
rohan
talked
about
in
terms
of
free
skilling
and
the
kind
of
new
skill
sets
that
you
would
require
in
this
new
age.
V
One
of
my
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
I
experienced
when
I
started
working
in
the
government
way
back
in
2015
is
that
the
government
is,
you
know,
an
entity
which,
over
the
years
it
obviously
runs
the
company,
the
entire
country
and
the
way
it
has
been
doing
that
one
of
the
ways
at
least
it's
been
doing
that
it's
become
really
good
at
managing
projects
right,
but
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
relearning
or
a
reskilling
that
might
be
required
in
this
situation,
because
a
lot
of
these
technology
platforms
actually
require
you
to
actually
unlearn
a
bit
of
what
you
do
in
project
management
and
kind
of
think
in
terms
of
products
and
platforms
right,
and
that
is
something
which
might
be
a
little
bit
of
a
new
thing
that
you
know,
people
inside
the
government
would
need
to
imbibe,
and
so
you
know
my
role
essentially
when
I
joined
the
government
has
been
kind
of
the
biggest
role.
V
V
So
a
couple
of
things
come
to
my
mind,
which
have
been
you
know
very,
very
useful
here.
One
is
that
you
know
you
got
to
start
thinking
about
india's
problems
for
from
first
principles.
Right
I
mean
I
had
as
part
of
slideshare.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
build
a
globally
a
global
scale
product
you
know,
which
was
initially
targeted
at
the
power
users
of
silicon
valley,
but
once
I
came
and
started
working
in
the
government
of
india,
while
I
learned
a
lot
of
things
from
that
experience,
I
also
had
to
kind
of
you
know.
V
I
was
borrowing
some
of
the
best
practices,
but
I
had
to
put
on
a
very
india
specific
ad,
a
indian
way
of
thinking,
and
that
is
very
important
and
that's
something.
That's
a
phenomenon
that
plays
out
in
different.
You
know
in
different
ways
is
that
india
needs
solutions
which
are
very
india-centric.
V
You
might
borrow
ideas
you
might
get
inspired
by
what
others
are
doing
across
the
world,
but
you
got
to
kind
of
you
know,
take
those
ideas
and
then
implement
it
in
a
very
indian
specific
way.
So
thinking
from
first
principles,
you
know
thinking
about
what
kind
of
solutions
india
needs
from
grounds
up.
I
think
the
aadhaar
ecosystem,
one
of
the
really
powerful
things
that
it
has
done
to
the
country,
is
that
it's
made.
V
People
realize
the
the
value
of
the
api
architecture
and
the
api
systems
was
always
built
up
as
an
api
right,
which
meant
that
it
kind
of
solves
the
digital
identity
problem
and
once
it
does
that
it
also
kind
of
you
know,
enables
other
products
and
services
to
kind
of
be
built.
On
top
of
it,
be
it
upi
or
you
know,
digi,
locker
and
esign
and
there's
a
host
of
other
services.
V
So
the
the
api
architecture
and
the
api
way
of
building
products
and
services
is
something
which
is
kind
of
started
getting
deeply
ingrained
inside
the
government
and
that,
to
my
mind,
has
been
one
of
the
absolutely
fantastic
developments
where
you
know,
because
government
systems
traditionally
tend
to
be
billed
as
you
know,
stand-alone,
and
they
are
siloed.
So
once
you
kind
of
you
know,
get
them
to
actually
talk
to
each
other
using
apis
and
that
you
know
that
change
can
be
really
transformational.
P
That's
right,
and
I
so
much
agree
with
you
amit.
In
fact,
I
have
been
interviewing
a
lot
of
candidates
in
the
recent
past
and
whenever
there's
a
candidate
who
has
a
permit
experience
or
has
worked
with
the
government
or
has
seen
the
kind
of
work
happening
there,
they
talk
with
lot
of
pride
and
passion.
So
I
think
I
think,
all
of
us,
as
citizens
of
india
have
a
lot
to
contribute
back
and
not
to
benefit
out
of
the
innovation
happening
there.
P
So
I
think
students
who
are
on
on
listening
to
us
something
there's
something
in
for
all
of
you.
So
I'll
come
back
to
you,
dr
guddam,
and
I
think
all
of
us,
many
of
us
have
discussed
this
challenge
that
technology
specifically
changes.
P
You
know
people
say
that
technology
changes
with
a
blink
of
an
eye
how
easy
or
difficult
it
is
to
keep
the
education
ecosystem
in
pace
with
those
changes,
because
that's
what
we
always
complain
that
you
know
what
we
do
in
real
life
and
what
we
are
being
taught
there
is
a
huge
difference.
W
Yeah
I
mean
I
myself
is
a
technologist,
so
I'm
very
much
interested
to
answering,
because
when
I
work
for
various
companies
in
u.s
and
various
other
countries,
what
they
realized
is
our
country
is
more
transactional
based
and
technology
changed
the
way
we
interact
and
reflect
on
ways.
We
use
technology
in
communication,
collaboration
and
critical
thinking
and
to
formulate
a
creative
solution.
Also,
I
mean
see
the
way
we
have
used
technology
to
distribute
the
with
vaccinations
to
every
hook
and
corner
of
this
country.
W
W
So,
coming
back
to
the
national
education
policy
2020,
you
know
we
are
enabled
the
national
education
policy
with
advanced
technologies
and
it
is
agile
in
nature.
So
we
basically
works
in
a
very
scrum
model.
You
know
smaller
life
cycle
projects
so
that
you
know
we
can
accommodate
the
change
much
faster,
because
the
change
management
is
a
critical
for
any
project,
so
so,
as
a
technologist
come
become
project
manager.
I
understand
that
you
know
implementing
projects
within
time
and
even
in
faster
phases
is
very,
very
important
with
the
advanced
technologies.
W
Like
example,
now
we
are
coming
up
with
endear
h,
you
know
the
eye
for
the
higher
education.
We
are
digitizing
the
entire
higher
education,
but
using
enterprise
architecture,
which
is
open,
agile
in
nature,
and
we
are
creating
open
api
based
methods
because,
as
you
know,
india
2.0
architecture
has
a
open
apis
exposed
for
the
critical
infrastructure.
W
So
we
are
utilizing
that
and
we
are
remodeling
and
connecting
all
the
educational
digital
entities
with
it
example,
there
is
a
concept
called
abc.
You
know
the
economic
bank
of
credit,
so
where
there
we
are
using
the
application
of
of
you
know
of
the
of
the
various
existing
other
based
authentication.
We
are
using
digi,
locker,
etc.
So
it's
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
way
we
strategized
the
entire
higher
education,
as
well
as
the
school
education
sector,
is
too
more
aligned
towards
the
existing
processes
and
the
technologies
in
place.
W
At
the
same
time,
you
know
we
are
creating
a
two-way
apis
so
that
we
can
not
only
consume
the
data.
From
the
other
side,
we
can
give
the
data
so
that
they
can
utilize.
So
the
thought
process
is
just
to
replicate
the
model.
What
we
on
the
nha
so
in
energy,
what
they
did.
They
have
created
a
health
id
and
you
know
from
there
they
are
just
trying
to
control.
I
mean
you
know,
flow
the
information,
digital
information
from
a
patient
to
a
doctor
to
all
the
entire
health
network
right
in
a
similar
fashion.
W
Here
we
are
going
to
create
a
student
id
and
that
student
id
as
well
as
institute
id
and
under
the
infrastructure
id
of
the
institute.
All
these
three
together
are
going
to
work
and
and
transfer
the
information
from
one
place
to
another
place
with
help
of
this
open,
apis
and
and
enterpriser
architecture.
W
So
this
is
the
way
we
strategized
it,
and
I
I
completely
understand-
and-
and
you
know-
and
the
the
kind
of
a
re-engineering
of
our
economics
and
societies
are
happening
with
help
of
this
digitization
and
technologies.
So
we
are
keeping
that
in
mind
and
we
are
adopting
all
the
new
technologies
example.
We
even
went
to
a
digital
twinning.
So
recently
we
did
one
experiment
from
the
one
of
the
german-based
company.
W
They
have
the
physical
mission
in
germany.
We
have
taken
a
digital
twin
of
it
and
we
have
given
it
to
more
than
600
to
700
students
of
various
colleges.
They
worked
on
the
digital
twin,
they
tweaked
the
models
and
they
created
best
of
the
best
models
out
of
it
and
which
we
produced
the
outcome
solution
back
to
the
german-based
company.
So
we
are,
you
know,
trying
to
use
all
the
advanced
technologies
like
here.
We
are,
you
know
digital
twinning
and
trying
to
give
the
best
to
our
students
as
well
as
faculty.
W
I
mean
we
are
not
only
concentrating
on
students,
we
are
even
try.
You
know
focusing
on
faculty.
We
are
giving
them
more
advanced
technologies,
faculty
development
programs
so
that
they
can
decimate.
You
know
the
best
knowledge
to
the
students
and,
at
the
same
time,
as
you
know,
government
initiatives
like
software
technology
park.
You
know
export
oriented
units,
the
special
economic
zones,
and
recently
we
opened
up
the
foreign
director
investment
also
so
example
in
the
budget.
If
you
see
right,
we
have
said
you
know
the
anyone.
W
Any
foreign
entity
can
have
an
investment
in
the
form
of
center
of
excellence
or
a
startup
within
the
institutes
or
universities
itself.
So
we
are
opened
up
and
you
know
and
lots
of
universities
from
various
other
countries.
They
are
interested
to
establish
their
their
entities
between
our
colleges
itself,
so
I'm
imagining
kind
of
a
college
park
or
a
stanford
model.
You
know
where
you
have
the
companies
residing
within
your
institute
or
university
so
that
the
student
of
the
morning
session
goes
to
the
college
and
afternoon
session.
W
He
will
work
for
the
company
so
that
by
the
time
he
comes
out,
you
know
we
want
him
to
get
empowerment
on
the
both
the
sides.
You
know
one
on
the
degree
he
has
and
the
second
side.
You
know
he
has
a
practical
knowledge
of
working
with
three
to
four
companies
and
I
completely
understand
and
agree
because
you
know
I
myself
was
a
software
developer.
Even
yesterday,
night
in
late
night,
I'm
writing
code.
W
So
as
india
is
a
land
of
a
software
developers,
you
know
it
is
an
estimated
that
around
four
to
five
million
developers
are
there
in
india.
So
I
have
four
to
five
million
brothers
and
sisters,
so
I
you
know-
and
it
is
ranked
third
after
china
and
the
u.s
and
I'm
sure
very
soon,
you
know
we
will
even
cross
china
and
the
u.s,
because
the
kind
of
a
moment
what
I
see
the
kind
of
encouragement
we
are
doing
and
the
kind
of
a
pattern
our
students
are
following.
W
W
I
know
this
is
not
any
promotional
activity,
but
I
would
like
to
share
my
personal
experience
with
all
of
you,
because
I
see
that
you
know
there's
lots
of
projections
saying
that
we
are
going
to
have
more
than
30
billion
yearly
revenue
and
indian
software
product
industry
by
2025.
W
You
know
by
nascom,
etc,
but,
but
I
I
see
this
in
a
different
way.
You
know
india
is
aiming
to
become
a
global
supplier
for
software
digital
technology
solutions
period.
So
this
is
where
the
github
comes
into
picture,
and
recently
I
had
an
interaction
and
my
honorable
ministry
spoke
about.
You
know
why,
don't
you
teach
abcdfg
to
higher
education
students?
I
said,
sir.
They
already
know
because
you
know
they
studied
about
a
b
c
decision
school.
They
said
no,
no,
I'm
talking
about
a
means.
W
Artificial
intelligence
b
means
block
chain
c
means
cyber
security
b
means
data,
analytics
and
intelligence.
E
means,
electronics,
f
means
faster
coding.
Maybe
you
know
in
is
in
his
words,
maybe
faster
coding.
It
means
no
code,
you
know,
approach
and
g
is
github,
you
know
so
this
is
where
we
see
the
github
is
very,
very
important
for
our
national
education
policy,
because
it
is
a
hosting
provider
platform
which
is
giving
an
opportunity
to
all
our
students
and
faculty
to
control
and
manage
their
projects
by
utilizing.
W
The
version
of
version
controlling
and
collaboration,
because
working
individually
is
different
and
working
together
is
different.
They
all
are
working
together,
see
which
was
lagging
in
old
education
policy.
So
we
are
utilizing
the
github
platform
and
we
are
asking
them
to
work
together
as
a
community,
because
I
see
github
has
a
very
immensely
powerful
community.
I
think
and
it's
an
open
source
platform.
You
know
this
is
where
we
have
utilizing.
I
mean
you
know.
W
We
see
the
way
the
minister
of
education
is
working
now
it
is
only
as
I
said
it
wants
to
give
only
the
best
of
the
best
to
the
students
and
the
faculty.
We
are
encouraging
them,
saying
that
you
know
you
go
on
github,
try
utilizing
these
platforms,
you
know
now
we
have
a
very
powerful
student
community,
but
that
student
community
resides
on
github
and
we
are
so
happy
and
I'm
I
was
recently
reading
the
numbers.
W
To
see
that
the
kind
of
a
community
you
have
is
more
than
73
billion
and
with
four
million
organizations
I
mean
what
a
beautiful
platform
it
is,
and
this
is
where
our
students
are
gaining
insights.
You
know
they
are
learning,
they
are
doing
coding
and
they
are
using
student
offerings
which
you
have
given
in
a
real-time
experience
and
there's
lots
of
various
development
tools
which
you
have
given
for
free.
W
Of
course,
I
would
like
to
thank
all
github
and
github
partners
for
it
and
I'm
not
doing
any
kind
of
a
pr
here,
but
I'm
sharing
my
experience
recently.
I
visited
a
couple
of
colleges
where,
when
I
interacted
with
them,
you
know
on
the
center
of
excellence
groups
we
have
created
in
various
places
for
innovation
and
research,
I'm
so
happy
to
see
that
they
all
are
using
this
github,
something
called
campus.
You
know
you
have
a
campus,
you
know
where
global
campus-
I
don't
exactly
remember
the
name.
W
Generation
softwares
and
it's
a
blazing
fast.
You
know
I
really
love
the
way.
It
is
so
fast.
Yesterday
night,
where
I'm
pulling
the
code
from
other
developer,
I
was
amazing,
the
kind
of
fastness
it
has
showed
and
the
code
spaces
as
a
collaborative
environment
the
last
but
not
least,
you
know
I'm
just
going
on
and
on
but
the
security.
W
You
know
what
you
have
because
I
see
sometimes
what
happens
you
know
we
will
just
write
some
secret
or
you
know
some
kind
of
a
secure
code
and
securely
on
github
and
push
it
and
what
the
beauty
thing
of
github.
Is
it
automatically
detects
and
deactivates
all
the
secrets
committed
to
the
repos?
You
know
this
is
a
beautiful
thing.
W
You
know
why
I
don't
know
who
invented
this,
but
the
kind
of
a
contribution
they
are
doing
to
the
society
to
the
software
societies
is
just
infinite
and
the
project
coordination
is
last
thing
because
you
know,
as
a
project
manager.
I
need
to
manage.
So
I
sometimes
you
know
manage
this
using
all
the
tasks
using
this.
You
know
management
tool
which
you
have
so
last
but
not
least,
I
see
that
you
know
we
are
very
large.
W
W
W
I
think
you
know
these
all
are
possible
because
we
have
opened
up
the
doors
and
the
national
education
policy
is
fully
concentrating
on
innovation,
on
the
startup
ecosystem
and
I'm
so
happy
to
see
that
more
than
7.5
lakh
startups,
and
they
are
very
well
working
and
working
together
as
a
team
and
trying
to
do
something
you
know,
which
is
which
is
really
amazing.
I
see
someone
is
working
on
a
gene
technologies
which
I
never
imagined.
That
of
you
know
will
happen
from
indian
land.
W
I
mean
that
kind
of
a
technological
advancements
and
skills
and
knowledge
whatever
indian
students
are
displaying
and
they
are
not
looking
only
to
become
a
job
seeker.
They
are
looking
towards
the
job
creators
and
I
thank
github
for
giving
these
kind
of
opportunities
to
all
our
students
and
if
you
have
any
questions
or
concerns,
as
I
already
mentioned,
the
national
education
policy
is
open.
We
are
ready
to
accept
any
change
which
is
betterment
for
our
country
and
we
are
so
happy
to
be
part
of
you
know
various
other
organizations.
W
P
Thank
you
so
much.
I
can't
I
don't
have
words
to
actually
thank
you
enough
for
for
your
kind
words,
and
I
think
it's
it's
great
honor
for
us
to
receive
first-hand
feedback
from
you,
not
only
as
a
user
of
github,
but
also
when
you
see
others
in
the
education
ecosystem
using
and
benefiting
out
of
out
of
github.
P
All
I
can
say
is
that
we
as
github
are
really
committed
to
india.
We
are,
we
are
honored
to
actually
be
involved
in
in
most
of
the
projects
where
the
discovery
there
is
the
health
idea
at
nha,
and
we
really
want
to
be
involved
in
the
student
id
project.
P
X
Data
science,
including
data
analytics
data,
visualization,
cyber
security,
again
non-tech,
ui
ux
in
a
in
a
broader
sense,
mobile,
app
development
and
so
on,
and
so
forth,
either
some
of
the
skills
or
or
or
sectors
or
or
technologies,
wherein
there
are
a
lot
of
job
opportunities
that
have
come
up,
especially
in
in
last
six
months.
What
well
six
to
12
months
or
so,
and
I
think
I
think
this
will
continue
to
to
remain.
These
trends
will
continue
to
remain
for
maybe
next
12
to
24
months.
P
I
think
we
will
wrap
up
here.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you,
dr
buddha
amit
rohit,
really.
Thank
you.
I'm
sure
the
participants
have
learned
a
lot
in
in
our
discussion
and
my
session
to
all
the
participants
will
be
to
engage
with
our
panelists
on
the
social
media.
I
know
all
of
them
are
very
active,
so
whether
it's
linkedin
or
twitter,
on
on
their
behalf,
I'm
inviting
you
to
engage
with
it.
D
D
I'll
call
out
couple
of
them,
I
think
nandans
and
anuroi's
shout
out
to
all
developers
on
how
they
can
contribute
to
nation
building,
definitely
hits
top
of
the
chart
for
me,
and
second,
one
is
8
million
plus
developers
in
india
who
are
using
github
to
contribute
to
global
projects
out
there.
That's
the
second
one
highlight
I
think
it
was
called
out
in
thomas's
keynote.
What
about
you,
then?
What
are
your
favorite
moments
from
the
day.
C
I
think
I
love
the
video
and
how
code
is
building
india
and
we
are
on
it
and
I
loved
hearing
from
all
our
amazing
viewers.
So
the
comments
and
tweets
were
good
to
hear,
and
you
know
what
mohan
seeing
you
in
that
snorkel
gear
was
fun
too.
D
Also
a
shout
out,
and
thanks
to
all
the
fellow
hubbers
for
moderating
the
panel
and
all
the
participating
guests
for
sharing
such
insightful
thoughts
and
thought-provoking
comments
about
all
the
personal
examples
that
they
brought
in
into
those
panel
discussions.
We
have
lot
of
buzz
going
on
on
twitter.
Let's
invite
some
of
the
tweets.
Let's
say
them
here
on
what
our
audience
has
to
say
about
day.
One.
D
So
here
it
goes
first
one
is
from
jeet
2003.
He
says
it's
been
more
than
two
hours
and
so
many
new
things
to
learn
day,
one
of
github
constellation
india
2022..
C
D
D
C
Absolutely
you
know
what
we
are
happy
to
announce
that
everyone
whose
tweets
were
featured
today
will
win
swag,
so
everyone
whose
tweets
were
featured
please
dm
us.
Your
address
to
the
github
india
on
twitter
channel
also
hit
us
on
twitter,
and
let
us
know
your
best
moments
from
day.
One
best
tweets
still
stand
a
chance
to
win
more
swag.