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Join Georges Gomes and Rizel Scarlett today at 2 pm ET for our second episode of Start it Up Wednesday!
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A
A
We
chat
people
from
GitHub
aka
me
chat
with
different
startup
Founders,
to
learn
more
about
their
journey,
to
learn
more
about
their
products
and
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we
can
get
involved
in
our
own
startups
or
learn
about
how
they're
leveraging
different
GitHub
tools
as
well
I
want
to
just
say,
hi
to
some
people
in
the
chat
really
quickly
that
I've
seen
that
are
familiar,
I've
seen
Stephen
Brigham
I.
Remember
you
from
either
open
source,
Friday
or
started
up
Wednesday.
A
Last
time
and
I
like
how
you
did
The
Little,
P
tags,
I
think
it's
probably
because
of
div
riots,
I
love
that
and
then
we
have
people
from
like
all
over
the
world.
Like
someone
from
Chile
some
someone
from
Ghana
so
hey
everybody
super
excited
to
chat
with
y'all
and
hang
out
with
y'all
I
won't
take
up
too
much
of
the
time
talking.
I
do
want
to
turn
over
the
the
mic
to
Our
Guest
Today,
George
George.
Why
don't
you
feel
free
to
introduce
yourself.
B
Hello,
thank
you
for
having
me
Rizal.
My
name
is
George.
I
am
actually
43
now
and
I'm,
a
CEO
co-founders
with
two
of
my
friends
of
Dave
riots
and
I'm,
passionate
about
UI
and
ux
since
I'm
a
little
boy
as
a
true
story,
and-
and
we
started
to
write
a
couple
of
years
ago
now
and
to
really
help
designers
and
developers
work
better
together.
A
B
We
started
in
2021,
okay
with
two
two
of
my
friends
that
that
I
met
in
the
previous
previous
Journey
on
in
another
startup,
and
this
is
actually
where
we,
where
we
discovered
the
pain
of
front
end
and
with
designers
and
developers,
and
when
we
had
the
opportunity
to
do
something
else
together.
That
was
that
was
what
we
wanted
to
do
as
addressed
this.
This
pain
and
address
this
need
and
then
do
something
unique.
A
Just
because
that's
been
like
the
trend
lately
but
like
I
when
I
was
a
software
engineer,
I
I
got
to
focus
a
lot
on
on
front
end
and
react
and
stuff
like
that,
and
I
did
see
that
that
that
tension
or
conflict
between
like
design
to
development,
where
it's
like
you
have
to
wait
to
get
the
designs
and
I
really
I.
Don't
have
design
skills
I
just
wait
for
a
ux
designer,
so
I'm
ex
I'm
really
excited
to
learn
more
about
your
startup.
B
It's
it's
helped
a
lot
and
then,
if
it
shares
the
same
mechanics
and
the
same
systematization
through
the
design
system
and
makes
things
so
much
more
fluid
and
the
productivity
boost
that
you
get
from
that
is
is
fantastic
and
in
the
end,
you
get
a
fantastic
user
experience
as
well,
because
it's
all
almost
sort
of
system.
It's
always
the
same.
You
have
this
this
this,
this
good
design
output,
so
that
this
is
really
an
important
topic
for
us.
So
we've
been
building
tools
for
design
system
for
the
past
few
years.
Now.
A
Awesome
this
is
this
is
great.
I
I
didn't
even
think
about
the
fact
that,
on
the
design
side,
the
vocabulary
should
be
the
same
like
across
the
board
to
make
things
easier.
That's
actually
a
really
good
point
and
I
think
you
got
a
little
bit
into
it.
But
what
exactly
inspired
you
and
your
friends
to
say
all
right?
We
are
definitely
going
to
create
this
startup.
Was
it
like?
A
A
B
So
the
many
things
but
really
the
the
struggle
that
we
went
through
with
the
with
our
first
startup.
It
was
very
hard
to
have
it
was
it
was
a
relatively
large
company,
and
so
when
you
have
multiple
teams
working
together
and
building
products,
and
when
you
you,
some
teams
write
parts
of
the
product
and
in
GitHub
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
it's.
We
have
a
lot
of
teams
and
they
work
into
different
products.
B
You
had
product
owners
and
you
have
developers,
but
not
really
designers
per
se,
and
so
this
is
what
the
struggle
is
one
thing
and
then
the
fact
that
the
designers
came
in
created
a
new
dynamic
in
the
way
we
build
products
today
and-
and
the
tools
have
been
very
siled
I
think
you
have
the
tools
for
designers.
You
have
the
tools
for
developers,
but
this
there
is
this
fantastic
space
in
the
Middle,
where
you
can
have
tools
where
both
both
can
can
actually
strive.
A
Nice
I
love
it
I
love
it
that
way.
I
like
the
way
you
described
it,
a
tool
where
both
developers
and
designers
can
Thrive,
and
then
we
have
a
ton
of
people
like
saying
their
their
framework.
That
they're
really
appreciating
someone
said
parent
stack,
I,
don't
even
know,
if
maybe
that's
preact
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
as
much
but
then
React
to
what
else.
I
saw
say
that
they,
like
Django
and
they're,
letting
AI
tools
take
care
of
the
Annoying
front-end
stuff.
A
But
let's
see
if
you're
ready,
I
would
love
to
see
the
demonstration
of
this
because
I
think
like
for
me,
I'm
excited
by
the
way
that
you
described
this
I
even
checked
out
the
website
and
I
saw
that
you
had
multiple
tools
that
that
y'all
have
built
out.
So
I
would
love
to
see
like
what
are
we
gonna
share?
Yes,.
B
Okay,
if
I
try
to
share
on
my
screen
now,
alrighty
so
I
have
my
Safari
on
one
end
here
and
I
have
my
figma,
which
are
the
tools
used
by
the
designer
and
I'm
here
on
github.com
and
one
of
the
tools
we
have
is
a
tool
that
lets
you
actually
import
an
existing
website
so
from
code
to
figma.
So
if
I
I'm,
just
gonna,
put
github.com
here
and
then
I'm
going
to
import,
so
it's
going
to
take
it's
gonna
take
some
time.
B
This
is
analyzing
the
website
code
entirely
and
recreating
the
vector
and
the
vectors
and
all
the
the
text
elements
inside
inside
figma,
wow
and
so
the
designers
can
then
pick
up.
So
this
is
used
in
multiple
ways.
It's
just
a
better
way
of
doing
screenshots,
it's
a
better
way.
If
we,
if
we
look
at
the
website,
you
will
see
it's
a
website
that
is
full
of
animation
and
it
has
code
and
it
has
effects
gradients.
B
B
A
A
B
B
Nice
pretty
cool,
it's
pretty
cool
people
are
using
it
in
multiple
ways,
replacing
screenshots
because
you
can
coming
in
and
you
can
change
here.
You
can
change
the
copywriting,
you
can
put
a
comment
in
figma
and,
and
you
know,
and
share
with
people.
So
it's
like
a
super
super
collaborative
and
also,
if
you
have
Legacy
websites
to
be
able
to
redesign
them
very
quickly.
You
know
people
are
spending
days,
re,
recreating
Brands
and
that
here
it
takes.
You
know
five
minutes
or
no,
not
even
30
seconds,
and
you
you
get
that.
B
So
so
this
is
really
the
technology
that
we
built
to
transform
code
into
into
figma,
vectors
and,
and
so
one
of
the
the
main
products
we
have
is
story
to
design
and
and
and
this
will
connect
really
coding
a
more
intricate
way,
and
so,
if
I,
if
I
I
picked
up
here
today,
the
The
Storybook
of
of
the
design
system
of
GitHub,
which
is
called
the
primer
and
I,
picked
up
the
react.
Library
and
you
can
have
the
the
buttons.
So
you
can
have
the
the
different
buttons
of
of
now.
B
So,
if
I
go
into
the
playground-
and
you
can
see
the
different-
the
different
colors
of
the
of
the
GitHub
design
system,
with
a
different
size
of
the
buttons
or
you
can
have
the
group
buttons
as
well
yeah
different
size,
you
can
disable
and
stuff.
So
this
is
really
what
the
developers
are
using
in
code,
and
this
is
a
storybook
where
you
can
have
really
the
catalog
of
those
components
and
I
think
the
switch
also
is
interesting
here.
B
You
can
have
the
switch
like
these
and
you
can
have
also
a
small
switch
like
this,
and
so,
if
I
pick
up
this
URL,
which
is
the
URL
of
the
storybook
I,
can
put
that
into
story
to
design
which
is
a
another
one
of
our
figma
plugins.
Okay
and
it
will
load
the
storybook
and
then
I
can
start
getting
the
buttons
and
I
can
say.
Okay
I
want
to
have
the
buttons
with
the
different
sizes.
I
want
the
different
Vines.
B
So
this
is
coming
from
the
storybook
I
want
to
have
the
disabled,
State
and
I
want
to
simulate
the
over
effect
and
the
focus
and
I
end
up
with
60
violence,
and
so
I
can
do
this
and
put
them
into
figma
and
off
we
go.
It
creates
the
all
the
combinations
of
the
60
components
in
figma,
and
so
then
designers
can
consume
these
straight
out
of
the
figma
like
this.
B
The
figma
elements
so-
and
you
can
do
many
many
other
things
like
this,
and
so
so.
The
product
is,
is
obviously
a
little
bit
more
complex
than
this.
But
you
can
you
can
import
more
stuff
and
if
I
just
do
the
the
switch
very
quickly
I
think
it's
fun
to
toggle
switch
and
I
can
speak
up,
become
the
smaller
one
and
I
want
the
disable
and
I
want
the
loading
and
I
want
the
different
sizes
and
I
want
the
over
effect.
The
focus
and
I
can
import.
B
Yeah,
it
helps
them
to
I
mean
not
only
they
can
quickly
get.
You
know
thousands
of
variants,
so
they
can
pick
up
what
existing
code
and
right
away
start
designing,
but
also
when
you
start
into
a
project
where
you
have
Legacy
code
and
you
don't
have
the
design
you
can
use
it
and
then,
when
once
you
have
story
to
design
up
and
running,
the
maintenance
of
your
design
system
in
figma
is
so
much
easier,
because,
basically
you
can
instruct
developers
to
change
something
on
a
component.
B
A
Wow
wow:
this
is
awesome,
I'm
really
tempted
to
ask:
how
does
it
work
but
I
know
it's
not
open
source,
so
you've
got
to
keep
those
keep
those
Secrets
under
wrap.
A
lot
of
people
are
asking
they
they
miss
the
name
of
the
first
plugin.
Then
maybe
there's
some
people
coming
in
late
they're,
like
What's,
the
name
of
that
plugin.
A
B
No
I
think
that's
that's
what
I
wanted
to
show.
We,
we
have
other
other
plugins
and
you
can
see
actually
every
single
product
in
dividers.com
and
we
also
have
some
open
source
projects
that
are
that
are
very
interesting.
I.
Think
for
for
the
coders
that
are
here,
I'm
gonna
share
that
this
one,
which
is
jam,
packed
and-
and
you
will
see
the
guitar
page
here,
but
Jam
Park
takes
a
website
a
static
website
and
it
will
optimize
images.
It
will
modify
the
HTML
to
have
multi-size
images
for
Multi-Device.
B
B
It
will
calculate
what
is
above
the
fold
and
after
the
fold
and
and
provide
some
lazy
loading
for
everything
that
is
after
after
the
fold.
So
this
is
what
we
use
on
every
website
that
we
have
every
every
static
website
that
we
have
like
the
royal
com.
This
is
optimized
with
with
impact
and
and
like
the
same
will
will
be
for
story
to
design
website.
B
This
will
be
optimized
for
with
Jam
pack,
and
so
this
is
every
single
optimization
that
we
came
across
over
the
years
and
we
had
to
manually
build
into
the
websites
with
genpact.
We
just
we
just
create
the
website,
push
it
to
a
webpack
and
let
it
optimize
the
images,
the
lazy,
loading
and
everything.
A
Wait
I'm
so
curious
to
see
it
working
but
I
know
you
didn't
prepare
demo,
so
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
Oh
I,
we
do
have
a
question
that
I
do
think
is
interesting
and
I
think
they're
asking
if
that
the
plug-in
that
you
initially
showed.
Does
it
work
on
a
website
created
what
react
or
does
it
need
to
be
server-side
rendered
like
next.js,
no.
B
It
works
with
any
technology.
We
actually,
we
actually
analyzed
the
website
the
website
at
the
Dom
and
CSS
level.
So
no
matter,
no
matter
what
the
technology
is
used,
ultimately
react
next
views.
Well
anything
will
create
the
Dom
nodes
in
the
browser,
and
this
is
what
we
use
to
create
the
vectors
then
in
in
figma,
so
it
works
with
anything
here.
A
That's
so
awesome,
there's
lots
of
people
just
saying
they
love
this
just
in
case
you're,
not
able
to
see
the
comments
right
now,
but
they're
like
what
an
amazing
product
someone
said:
I'm
coding
in
gats
BJs
a
wireframe
app
that
will
be
very,
very
useful,
app
for
front
end
without
design.
So
I
guess
they're,
saying
that
this
is
going
to
be
helpful,
and
someone
said
this
is
like
magic
and
Powerful
I
I,
really
liked
that
initial
demo,
you
did
with
the
the
HTML
to
do
this.
B
Yeah,
it's
very
it's
very
impressive.
Every
time
we
demorate,
especially
with
a
website
like
GitHub
like
it's,
it's
pretty,
it's
pretty
impressive
to
to
see
the
details
and
because
every
image
every
SVG
will
be
translated
into
vectors.
So
you
can
you
get
really
the
the
real
thing
with
the
gradients
and
and
everything
so
yeah.
We
spend
quite
a
lot
of
time
into
this
technology
to
transform
the
the
code
into
the
figma
vectors
and,
and
the
results
are
very,
very
impressive.
A
B
A
B
It
just
helps
this
helps.
Sometimes
you
want
to
know
how
to
do
things.
You
pick
up
a
website
and
we
also
have
that
a
Chrome
extension
that
goes
with
it.
So
if
you
have
a
private
website,
if
you
have
a
website
behind
the
login
page,
you
still
can
use
it
with
the
Chrome
extension
and
then
you
you
actually
capture
with
the
Chrome
extension
and
then
you
drag
and
drop
it
here,
and
so
you,
you
can
go
through
through
any
network
or
login
that
that
would
prevent
to
use
this
inputs.
Yeah
awesome.
A
Okay
and
I
know
that
you
probably
didn't
prepare
a
demo
for
this
either,
but
I
was
a
little
bit
curious
about
like
the
Ides
that
you
all
have
developed
like
I'm
just
curious,
and
then
you
all
say
that
you
can
create
an
IDE
for
anybody's
custom
like
problem
I'm,
curious
about
that
like
to
me
I,
just
think
of
an
IDE
as
like
a
general
thing
that
you
can
just
write
whatever
code.
You
want
in
it.
So
like.
What's
the
idea
behind
that
yeah.
B
B
B
Yeah
exactly
I,
think
yeah
and,
and
the
thing
is
we-
we
wrote
this
reported
vids,
which
is
a
web
compiler
or
bundler
or
Dev
server,
and
we
put
it
for
the
browser,
and
so
this
gives
us
the
ability
to
actually
compile
the
web
development
in
the
browser
directly,
okay,
without
having
a
node
service
or
or
anything.
So
this
is
a
very
lightweight
way
of
building
code.
B
On
the
on
on
the
front-end
side
and
I
think
this
is,
you
know
very
similar
to
what
code
sandbox
has
created,
with
jump
with
send
pack
I,
think
that
is
called
and
also
stack
Blitz
with
the
the
the
node
containers
or
the
web
containers
where
they
run
actually
a
fake
node
executable
into
the
browser.
So
it's
all
about
this
idea
of
creating
a
development
environment
in
the
browser
which
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
code
space.
B
Where
code
space,
you
actually
run
the
compiler
and
the
node
server
right
on
the
in
the
back
end.
So
you
have
a
real
server
running
and
and
and
those
initiatives
are
towards
running
everything
in
the
front
end,
but
obviously
nothing
more
works
perfectly
in
the
front
end.
It
has
to
be
the
other.
There
is
a
lot
of
workarounds
to
make
it
work,
and
this
is
what
vit
here
in
the
browser
does
with
code
spaces.
You
run
anything
because
you
have
a
server,
you
run
node
and
there's
no
question
asked.
So
it's
a
different.
B
It's
a
different
mindset.
We
build
this
to
really
be
able
to
run
coding
the
browser
with
no
infrastructure
so
because
you
run
in
the
browser,
so
there's
no
infrastructure.
There
is
no
started
time
right
away.
You
have
it
so
that
that
is
why
we
we
build
this
this
and
it's
used
so
in
web
components.com,
and
it's
used
also
in
lwc
studio,
which
is
the
same
technology
but
running
for
Salesforce,
light,
lightning
design
system.
A
Awesome,
this
is
really
really
great
and
honestly
I
get
really
excited
about
any
type
of
like
browser
within
your
IDE,
whether
it
doesn't
matter.
The
approach
that,
like
on
the
company
or
organization,
has
taken,
like
you
said,
different
ones,
have
different
goals.
Oh
also
before
I
go
forward.
Alex,
just
pinged
us
asking
what's
an
IDE,
so
I
I
kind
of
broke,
my
rule
of
not
saying
acronyms,
because
I
know
that
sometimes
beginners
are
watching
or
people
that
aren't
into
web
development.
A
A
This
is
like
maybe
it'll
like
do
a
little
squiggly
line
and
say
like.
Oh,
this
isn't
actually
a
function
or
something
like
that.
But
what
I
was
saying
is
why
I
get
excited
about
integrated
development
environments
that
are
available
in
your
browser
is
because
I
think
it's
really
helpful
for
folks
who
might
not
have
like
computers
where
they
can
like
get
started
immediately
on
coding,
like
maybe
their
computer
is
not
powerful
enough
or
maybe
they
want
to
try
out
coding,
but
they
don't
necessarily
know
like
how
to
get
started
like
I
know.
B
In
fact,
more
and
more
people
we
can
actually
code
but,
and
especially
designers,
actually
yeah,
but
the
the
biggest
problem
is
how
many
common
lines
you
need
to
learn
to
launch
this
stuff
and
git
and
and
the
options
of
git
and
and
then
how
to
run
the
bill
and
how
to
deploy.
And
so
those
are
just
elements
of
technicity.
B
But
in
the
end
it's
not
code,
I
mean
deploying
and
git
and
and
in
common
lines
and
doing
LS
in
directories
and
stuff,
and
so
sometimes
you
just
need
to
write
a
for
Loop
somewhere
and
two
lines
of
code,
and
that's
all
you
need
to
know,
and
especially
with
HTML
and
CSS
and
so
yeah
with
big
big
Believers
in
what
you
said
is
that
you
just
take
your
IDE,
especially
online.
You
take
it.
B
You
put
the
lines,
the
two
lines
of
code
that
you
need
to
put
and
and
off
you
go
and
the
rest
is
it's.
Just
technology
is
just
behind
the
scenes
and
you
shouldn't
care
about
it,
and
we
believe
that
more
developers
could
could
actually
code
and
contribute
to
the
code
if
they
don't
need
to
worry
about,
building
and
updating,
npm
and
and
all
those
kind
of
stuff
yeah.
A
No
I
totally
agree.
I
love
the
way
that
software
development
is
moving
in
this
direction
of
like
let's
take
away
all
of
that
like
the
difficult
parts
and
just
let
you
all
be
focused
on
coding
even
like
I
know
how
github's
releasing
or
we
we
officially
announced
co-pilot
for
CLI,
like
you,
you
mentioned
with
like
not
knowing
what
to
do
with
ls
and
stuff,
like
that.
Now
you
can
just
type
and
be
like
Oh,
I
wanna
go
to
a
new
directory
or
whatever.
This
is
great.
We
have
a
couple
of
questions.
A
B
I
think
probably
the
best
content
is
to
follow
the
the
Twitter
and
Instagram
accounts
for
both
HTML
to
design
the
story
to
design.
We
have.
We
have
these
and
and
we
publish
and
and
it's
thanks
to
Pierre
in
the
team
we
publish
a
number
of
videos
for
specific
features
and
so
yeah
we
have
the
div
riots
account,
but
we
have
also
for
every
product.
B
A
B
A
B
B
We
can
work
and
both
HTML
to
design
and
story
to
design
will
work
with
a
native
if
they
are
compatible
with
the
react
native
web
wrapper
that
some
I
think
most
libraries
in
react
native
do
support
so
that
if
they
work
on
the
web
we
can
capture
we.
We
have
been
having
people
asking
to
capture
and
do
Android
to
figma
or
iOS
to
figma,
and
this
is
still
in
in
the
backlog
for
us
to
support
those
specific
use
case
today.
It's
really
on
the
web
and
anything
that
is
on
the
web,
but
responsive.
A
B
So
we
it's
not
what
we
do.
We
don't
think
it's
similar
to
Zeppelin,
even
though
I
think
Zeppelin
is
in
the
same
space
in
ending
over
designers
to
developers,
but
we
try
to
avoid
that
end
over.
You
know
that
that
that
feels
to
mean
waterfall
and
also
more
of
a
pipeline,
and
we
like
to
create
stuff
that
is
more
collaborative
and
more
blurry
in
terms
of
who
can
do
what
and
and
so
that
that
that's
more
the
the
kind
of
of
the
things
we
build.
B
A
A
Yeah
well,
yeah
I,
think
I,
sometimes
tools
when
they're
in
the
same
space.
They
like
they're,
complementary
of
each
other
like
you're,
like
oh
I,
use
Zeppelin
for
this,
but
I
use
divides
for
something
else.
Exactly
so
I
know
that
we
like
and
I
know.
This
question
is
a
little
bit
more
tough
for,
for
maybe
a
a
more
proprietary
company,
but
like
what
GitHub
tools
are.
Are
you
all
using
that
have
been
able
to
help?
You
continue
to
develop
your
product,
yeah.
B
B
A
B
This
is
our
repository,
the
riots
and
we
have
about
a
hundred
and
four
repository.
Some
of
them
are
private.
Some
of
them
are
public
and
so
jam
pack
is
your
public
as
you've
seen
the
main.
The
main
repo
is:
is
this
one
and
I
think
the
biggest?
The
biggest
use
that
we
have
is
on
is
on
the
GitHub
action,
so
I
I
looked
it
up
to
then
we
use
about
10
000
minutes
of
GitHub
action
every
month,
because
we
actually
run
the
test
for
our
female
plugins
the
test.
B
For
the
back
end,
we
do
the
release
from
the
GitHub
action.
When
we
tag
a
branch
we
do
deploy,
previews
and
I
can
show
these.
We
have
run
nightly
run
so
every
night
we
run
everything.
We
build
everything,
we
run
the
tests
and
this
is
automatically
triggered
on
GitHub
action
and
we
also
run
on
every
PR.
We're
gonna
run
a
lighthouse
test,
I'm
going
to
show
it
a
little
bit
and
we
build
as
well
for
every
Branch.
B
That
is
failing,
and
if
we
look
at
the
details,
we
can
see
that
it's,
the
lighthouse
part
that
GitHub
action
will
tell
us,
and
then
here
we
can
see
that
this
page
breaks
the
lazy
loaded
elements
of
the
lighthouse
and
so
we'll
be
looking
at
it
and
fixing
it.
The
other
sites
this
is
another
site
is,
is
done
and
GitHub
will
actually
try
to
find
to
detect,
which
our
GitHub
action
we
try
to
detect,
which
website
and
which
product
is
impacted
by
the
change
and
only
build
that.
A
B
A
This
is
awesome.
This
is
awesome
to
see
how
you're
you're,
leveraging
GitHub
actions
I
always
say
like
even
before
GitHub
I,
I,
I,
think
or
even
before.
I
worked
at
GitHub
I
think
that
GitHub
actions
is
what
really
drew
me
to
GitHub.
I
was
like
okay
at
first,
like
github's,
a
place
where
we
store
code
and
then
I.
They
came
out
with
GitHub
access
I'm
like
wow.
B
B
All
right,
so
it's
key
and
it
saves
us
so
much
time
and
you
know
with
a
small
company
like
us,
we're
running,
you
know
quite
a
few
projects.
We
have
four
four
production
products
and
and
a
couple
of
of
Open
Source
projects.
So
yeah
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time,
so
we
need
to
automate
as
much
as
we
can
and
then
Gita
has
been
GitHub.
Action
has
been
very
handful
for
that
yeah.
For
the
other
thing
that
we
use
a
lot
is
the
packages.
B
So
this
is
where,
when
we
build
artifacts
so
because
we
have
a
figma
plug-in,
we
have
a
Chrome
extension
on
top
of
the
back
end
that
we
have
all
the
front
end,
and
so,
when
there
are
separate
artifacts
like
these,
we
build
them
and
automatically
with
GitHub
action.
They
they
appear
here
in
the
release,
and
so
then
we
can
deploy
those
artifacts
into
you
know
the
Chrome
web
store
or
the
Fig
mask,
or
and
and
every
release
comes
comes
in
with
the
all
the
assets
here.
A
A
B
A
B
I
know
I,
think
the
the
I
mean
it's,
it's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
obvious
and
everybody
will
say
that,
but
finding
the
product
Market
fit
is
what
is
the
most
challenging
part.
Yeah
I
think
really
understanding
what
people
want
and
why
they
want
your
product
is,
is
the
most
challenging
part
I
think
it
is.
B
A
B
We
we've
been,
we've
been
lucky
enough
to
to
find
this.
This
Market
fit
and-
and
you
can
see
when
we
show
HTML
to
design
like
here,
people
are
lighting
up
and,
and
this
is
what
is
happening
and
and
and
this
is
when
you
know
you
have
public
market
fit,
but
it
is
very
hard
to
find
and-
and
this
is
a
real
Challenge
and
I'm-
not
saying
that
we
found
you
know
it
very
easily
and
it
came
the
the
day
number
one.
B
A
It's
obvious,
but
I,
don't
think
it's
that
obvious,
like
I've,
had
a
lot
of
people
on
open
source
Friday
come
on
and
talk
about
like
they
started,
making
up
a
project
for
themselves
and
then
later
on,
they're,
like
oh
people,
are
using
it
and
they're
like
wait
a
minute
people
don't
necessarily
want
the
direction
that
I'm
taking
it
in,
like
I,
have
to
make
like
to
keep
people
happy.
I
have
to
take
it
in
the
direction
that
they
want
it
in,
because
these
are.
A
B
A
Then
also
I
forgot
to
point
out
that
you
know
you
were
showing
off
the
the
GitHub
tools
I
wanted
to.
Let
people
know
that
we
have
a
program
called
GitHub
for
startups,
so
this
enables
like
startup
Founders
to
get
GitHub
Enterprise
I
believe
it's
for
I
have
to
double
check,
but
I.
Think
it's
like
12
months,
free
and
I.
B
A
Code
spaces:
you
have
co-pilot
like
a
whole
bunch
of
awesome
stuff
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
to
point
out
that
Corey,
who
is
part
of
the
the
GitHub
startups
team
at
GitHub,
pointed
out
that
saying
like
hey.
If
you
have
any
questions,
feel
free
to
reach
out
at
startups.
Github.Com,
oh
and
Alex,
just
Alex
just
reminded
me:
it's
free
for
a
year,
20
seats,
all
right
cool,
some
other
questions.
I
wanted
to
ask
you
with
the
the
little
bit
of
time
we
had.
So
we
did
talk
about
the
challenges.
B
You
know,
because
we're
so
small
we're
really
involved
with
customers
every
one
of
us,
and
so
we
work
with
teams
that
are
very
mature,
other
dumb
or
that
are
younger,
but
it
is
the
fact
that
you
are
helping
them
and
you're
you're
really
in
the
heart
of
you,
know,
providing
your
service
and
helping
them
on
a
day-to-day
basis
is
I
mean
it's
full
of
joy
for
that
when,
when
people
are,
you
know
when
they
tell
you
this,
is
this
save
my
saved
my
day?
Save
my
life
and
the
exaggerating?
A
B
A
A
So
my
other
question
to
you:
I'm
trying
to
see
because
I
know:
I
I
focused
a
lot
on
your
on
your
product
demo,
but
I'm
curious
like
how
do
you
prioritize
like
the
features
and
and
product
development
I
know
you
talked
about
you,
you,
you
got
to
make
sure
you're
in
a
good
product,
Market
fit
but
like
how
do
you?
How
do
you
decide
like
okay?
This
is
what
we're
gonna
put
on
a
roadmap
versus
we'll
punt
this
for
later.
B
Maybe
things
have
changed,
and
maybe
you
don't
need
to
do
it
anymore
and,
and
the
other
thing
is,
is
if
you,
if
you,
you
really
need
to
you,
you
may
invest
in
two
things
that
you
will
never
use
because
you're
planning
too
much.
So
we
try
to
do
things
that
we
need
right
now
and-
and
we
do
this
nearly
on
a
weekly
basis.
Basically,
so
what
do
we
need
to
achieve
this
week
and
so
who's
doing?
B
What
and
who's
working
on
what
and
everybody
picks
up
the
tasks
that
he
wants
to
do,
and
this
is
how
we
work
as
simple
as
that
on
a
weekly
basis.
We
look
at
okay.
What's
what's
our
goal
this
week,
when
we
go
when
we
sign
off
on
Friday
night,
what
should
have?
What
should
have
we
achieve,
and
this
is
how
we
work
week
by
week
we
obviously
have
a
vision
of
where
we
want
to
go,
but
that's
a
Target,
that's
a
guideline
and
then
how
we
go
there.
B
It's
it's
on
a
weekly
basis,
and
this
has
been
working
very
well
for
us.
I
think
and
just
the
number
of
products
that
we
have
created
just
is
is
showing
how
productive
this
has
been
and
and
and
it's
and
it
works,
because
also
you
know,
people
can
get
fatigue
in
working
on
something
for
many
many
weeks,
and
so,
if
from
one
week
to
another,
the
the
you
know
the
tired
and
they
want
to
work
on
something
else.
They
work
on
something
else,
and
you
know
the
the
positive
energy
is.
A
A
Just
did
this
I
just
did
that
like
I,
like
little
small,
wins
and
then
I
like
that,
you
said
that,
like
you
know
things
change,
I
I,
don't
like
when,
like
you
know,
you're
working
on
a
big
project
and
then
like
you,
almost
reach
the
end
and
then
the
company
is
like
yeah
we're
pivoting
like
forget
about
that
and
you're
like
well.
I
just
spent
so
long
on
this
so
I.
That's
a
really
interesting
perspective.
B
Yeah
but
I
understand
that
this
works
for
us,
because
we
are
very
small
and,
and
also
we
have
a
team
that
likes
to
work
like
this.
You
know
I
can
definitely
understand.
I,
wouldn't
not
work
with
with
any
size
and
any
team,
but
this
is
how
we
roll
and
the
fact
that
we
are
also
full
remote
requires
some
special
treatment
of
of
the
backlog.
A
B
Really
go
and
do
it:
that's
it
for
sure
and
and
then
I
think
again,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
will
will
say
the
same,
but
Be
Frugal
go
go
slowly
and
seek
that
product.
Market
feed
so
fit
that
really
the
thing
that
that
ticks
with
a
lot
of
people,
but
it
can
take
a
long
time
I'm
a
little
bit.
You
know
I'm
a
little
bit
annoyed
when
I
read
things.
You
know
influencers,
for
example,
in
in
on
Twitter.
B
Also
that
will
tell
you
I
build
this
on
a
weekend
and
now
it's
giving
me
ten
thousand
dollars
a
month
and
so
on.
This
is
not
the
real
life.
I
mean
it
to
do
ten
dollars
in
a
SAS
products.
It
takes
a
lot
of
work
and
and
everywhere
every
successful
you
know,
every
successful,
open
source
project
has
been
built
for
four
or
five
years
before
it's
really
taking
off.
So
it's
a
long
journey.
It
takes
time,
and
so
everybody
needs
to
be
aware
of
that,
and
and
so
it
needs
to
be.
B
We
need
to
be
frugal
and
we
need
to
wait
until
we
get
that
point
where
we
can
really
really
rock
it
up,
but
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
I
I
think
that
some
people
are
irresponsible
in
saying
that
this
is
too
easy
that
you
can
do
that
from
one
day
to
another.
This
is
reckless
and
it's
a
way
to
to
kill
the
the
startup
opportunity,
because
once
you
once
you
don't
have
any
money,
then
that's
it.
That's
that's
the
end.
Yeah.
A
Oh,
my
gosh,
that's
a
good
point
that
you
made
and
I
do
feel
like
I,
don't
know
if,
if
it's
social
media
or
what
that's
created
this
Vibe
of
it's
not
even
just
startups
like
even
in
like
when
I
see
people
say.
Oh,
you
can
be
a
software
engineer
in
just
five
days
or
you
can
get
into
devrel
and
then
like
I
I.
Try
to
like
not
be
a
gatekeeper
and
not
say
no,
you
can't
get
into
devrel
or
no.
A
B
B
B
A
A
What
you're
saying
so
the
last
question
for
you
before
we
move
into
the
fun
questions
is
like.
How
can
viewers
support
you?
Like?
Should
people
like
I
know?
We
talked
about
Twitter
I,
know
like
following
you
on
Twitter
or
following
your
company
on
Twitter.
We
talked
about
Instagram,
but
is
there
anything
that
people
can
do
to
support
usually
with
open
source
projects
I'm
like
Ogle,
star
the
project
or
go
contribute,
but
I
know.
This
is
a
oh.
B
B
A
B
A
B
B
So
I
looked
I
I
was
looking
at
my
phone
to
to
find
out
and
I
think
you
know
for
a
long
time,
especially
in
remote
I
used
to
miss
meetings.
You
know
you
you're
in
your
stuff,
you're
in
your
floor.
You
have
this
meeting.
You
have
the
first
reminder.
There's
in
five
minutes.
You
have
a
meeting
on
the
corner
of
your
screen.
Then
you
forgot
about
it
and
so
20
minutes
later
you're
late
and
so
I
found
this
app
it's
on
Android.
A
B
B
B
Swing,
Factory,
yeah
and
so
I
was
I
was
employed
there
for
the
summer
and
I
had
to
take
the
results
of
the
sewing
which,
which
was
shirts
and
fold
them,
and
put
them
into
plastic
bags
and
into
boxes
yeah
and
after
folding,
ten
thousand
of
them
I
could
I
couldn't
even
look
at
other
other
shirts
anymore.
This
was
the
most
valuable
job
I
ever
had
from
there.
I
I
worked
very
hard
at
school
and
and
I
very
quickly
had
a
engineering
and
jobs
as
soon
as
I
could
you're.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
so
much
for
coming
on.
I
only
have
one
thing
to
remind
you
all
about.
Is
that
again,
please
reach
out,
and
let
me
I
probably
should
have
stayed
highlighting
that
comment,
but
please
reach
out
at
startups.github.com.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
any
like
inquiries
about
GitHub
for
startups
program,
again,
that's
a
program
that
helps
to
accelerate
other
startups
and
helps
Founders
and
basically
with
it.
You
get
like
20
seats
for
GitHub
Enterprise
and
it's
free
for
a
year.
A
In
addition
to
that,
I
want
to
remind
y'all
to
like,
if
you
liked
this
episode
of
like
started
up
Wednesday
feel
free
to
go.
Watch
the
past
episode
feel
free
to
we'll
re-watch.
This
episode,
it's
gonna
be
on
YouTube
and
it's
still
going
to
be
on
LinkedIn
as
well,
and
then
next
week
we're
not
having
an
episode
because
I'll
be
out
of
office,
but
on
April
26
will
be
back
to
hear
about
a
project
that
calls
themselves
the
Firebase
of
Internet
of
Things.