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Presented by Admas Kanyagia, Senior Director of Social Impact, GitHub
Catherine Stihler, CEO, Open Knowledge Foundation
Hong Phuc Dang, Founder, FOSSASIA
As we strive to make progress on looming social issues like class divides, climate change, and access to education, innovation is key. New technologies are one of the most effective ways we can manage the complexity of these problems—bringing together institutions, developers, and companies to build collaborative open source solutions—and many of them are being built on GitHub.
In this session you’ll hear from people who are working at the intersection of social change and open source technology and walk away inspired by their stories of impact on some of the most important issues of our time.
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A
Great
all
right
good
afternoon,
I
know
it's
a
late
session,
so
I
hope
you
all
have
had
enough
coffee
enough
ice
cream.
If
you
haven't
I
would
be
happy
if
you
would
go
and
grab
some
quickly
before
we
get
going
because
I'm
hoping
that
we
have
quite
an
invigorating
and
exciting
discussion
today.
So
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
A
My
name
is
at
Moscone
yoga
I
lead
the
social
impact
team
at
github,
and
the
mission
of
the
social
impact
team
is
to
activate
github
people
product
and
platform,
to
address
the
pervasive
and
persistent
social
issues
that
we
see
in
the
world
around
us.
It
was
quite
telling
in
this
morning's
keynote
how
not
highlighted
the
great
incredible
work
of
Katie
Beaumont
and
the
larger
team
in
discovering
the
black
hole
image,
and
that
is
the
kind
of
work
and
opportunity
that
open-source
can
afford
us.
We
know
that
collaboration.
A
We
know
that
the
multiple
perspectives
and
really
the
ingenuity
and
energy
of
developers
and
others
who
are
on
the
platform,
are
actually
being
used
to
address
really
projects
that
have
incredible
social
purpose
for
the
world
that
we
see
today,
and
so
that
is
what
today's
conversation
is
about,
and
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
to
have
it.
I
would
like
to
introduce
our
panelists
before
we
begin.
A
I'm
excited
to
introduce
Hong,
funk
dong,
who
founded
Foss
Asia
in
2009
as
a
community
devoted
to
improving
people's
life
through
sharing
open
technologies,
knowledge
and
fostering
global
connections.
How
was
recently
elected
as
a
board
director
of
the
open
source
initiative,
and
she
also
acts
as
a
second
job
as
the
inner
source
manager
at
Zalando,
where
she
helps
to
bring
open
source
culture
practices
within
corporate
walls
and
supports
the
company
to
become
a
good
open
source
citizen.
A
Our
other
esteemed
panelists
is
Katherine
Stiller.
She
has
is
the
executive
chief
executive
of
the
Open
Knowledge
Foundation
and
has
been
in
that
role
since
February
of
2019.
Prior
to
this,
she
represented
Scotland
as
a
member
of
the
European
Parliament
since
1999
quite
an
interesting
day
today,
for
you,
Katherine,
I'm
sure.
As
vice-chair
of
the
European
Parliament's
internal
market
and
Consumer
Protection
Committee,
she
worked
on
digital
policy,
prioritizing
the
digital
single
market
and
digital
skills,
better
accessibility
of
digital
products
for
the
disabled,
as
well
as
citizen
online
data
protection
and
privacy.
A
She
also
wrote
a
number
of
influential
reports
and
opinions
calling
for
libraries
to
be
included
in
the
copyright
exemptions
that
we
talked
about
and
Mike
link
sayers
panel
earlier
this
today,
so
we're
so
excited
to
have
Katherine
and
her
perspective
to
join
us
today.
Welcome
Katherine,
so
I
invited
the
panelists
to
spend
a
few
minutes
just
sharing
about
their
work
before
we
dive
into
the
discussion
so
I'll
hand
it
off
to
Katherine
next.
B
So
thank
you
at
mass
and
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
being
here
today
and
it's
a
it's
quite
bizarre.
As
the
first
time
I've
never
stood
in
the
European
elections.
I
wanted
to
share
a
story
with
you.
My
husband
is
American
and
he
became
a
British
citizen
just
last
year,
and
so
the
irony
being
is.
This
is
the
first
time
my
husband
has
ever
had
the
vote
in
a
in
an
election
in
Britain
and
it's
the
first
time
I've
never
stood
in
that
election,
but
anyway
he
voted.
B
That
I
think
it's
very
timely
to
come
and
talk
about
the
benefits
of
open
source.
So
if
we
look
at
my
next
slide,
we've
got
kind
of
three
slides
here.
If
that's
okay,
if
some
compute
that
one
just
to
kind
of
see
about
what
open
knowledge
is
we
celebrated
15
years
on
Monday?
So
we're
so
happy
that?
That's
that
that's
the
case.
Why
don't
I've
got
a
button
to
and
I
sorry
there
we
go
I
didn't
politic
somebody
than
that
for
me,
but
I've
got
to
do
that
and
but
anyway,
here
we
go.
B
Then
we
look
at
seek
on
that
platform
that
allows
all
of
the
open
data
that
could
be
out
there
onto
something
that
can
actually
be
translatable
very
important,
and
then
our
new
work
on
frictionless
data,
which
is
described
to
me,
is
what
what
shipping
containers
aren't
the
shipping
industry
frictionless
data
is
to
the
data
world
and
it's
some
so
proud
to
be
part
of
our
organization
working
at
the
cutting
edge
of
that
so
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
the
conversation.
I've
all
certainly
not
hold
this
microphone
and
I'm
gonna
hand
back
to
add.
B
A
C
So
I
thought
that
I
will
start
to
tell
you
about
how
I
got
into
open
source
in
2007.
My
friend
had
me
install
Ubuntu
to
replace
windows.
Sp
editor
also
begin
me.
No
user
ID
really
light
it
in
a
way
that
you
don't
get
constant
update
all
the
time
and
you
don't
get
virus
alert
every
day
and
I
love
the
fact
that
you
can
download
software
from
your
terminal
by
typing
of
your
command
line.
C
So
that
really
got
me
excited
like
and
then
I
started
to
participate
in
the
local
Linux
user
group
get
together
almost
every
month
when
I
met
amazing
free
software
contributor,
who
taught
me
how
to
how
to
drive
light
on
how
to
use
a
very
good
software
project
in
scale
how
the
community
works
and
many
more,
but
it
was
then
the
software
that
got
me
inspired
I
was
really
surprised
how
a
person
could
contribute
voluntarily
into
one
project
over
15
20
years
until
so
excited
about
it.
How
so
passionate
about
what
he
is
doing?
C
I
feel
that
the
best
thing
that
could
happen
to
anyone,
at
least
to
me,
is
that
the
ability
to
be
able
to
work
on
something
that
you
love
and
be
happy
about
it
yeah.
So
what
I
try
to
say
is
it's
the
people,
the
community
that
taught
me
to
in
opens
the
door
for
me
to
open
source
and
then
in
2009
I
founded
force,
Asia,
together
with
my
partner,
Mario
Bellini,
who
always
is
also
here
today
for
Asia,
is
the
community
of
people
from
everywhere
who
want
to
make
a
better
future
with
open
technologies.
C
Some
of
the
core
activity
of
force
Asia.
We
develop
software
and
hardware,
a
drug
education
program,
organize
events
throughout
Asia.
We
have
a
very
active
online
community
on
Gita
over
3,000
members,
so
you
can
just
go
in
as
any
question.
Somebody
will
be
there
to
to
answer.
These
are
a
few
for
Asia
project
developed
by
the
community.
Everything
hosted
on
github
I,
just
cannot
say,
lie
of
a
few
things
on
the
list:
sue
CAI,
basically,
an
alternative
to
Alexa,
echo
or
Google
home.
C
I
believe
that
everyone
here
knows
Eventbrite,
you
need
a
ticket
to
get
to
this
event
rain
event.
Yay
is
a
solution,
open
source
solution
that
offers
similar
functionalities
and
features
exactly
like
Eventbrite.
We
are
using
it
also
to
organize
our
own
conference.
Next
flower
is
using
it
and
I
hope
that
github
consider
to
try
out
this
solution,
because
a
people
by
the
open-source
community
and
it
hosted
on
your
platform
github.
C
Pocket
Sian
laughs,
we
started
a
project
a
few
years
ago.
They
said
our
first
open
hardware
project.
The
aim
of
the
project
is
to
make
Sian,
affordable
and
accessible
to
people
in
developing
country.
Basically,
it's
a
multifunctional
device,
including
of
Scylla,
scarf
we're
generating
a
logic.
Analyzer
multimeter
and
many
more
I
also
have
the
product
here
today,
but
I'm
gonna
pass
it
over
out.
If
you
want
to
check
this
out.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Code
Hey
visit
one
of
our
education
project.
The
reason
why
I
want
to
mention
this
project
every
season
of
code.
Here
we
bring
in
over
600
new
user
to
you
know.
Basically,
we
teach
young
developer,
how
to
use
git
and
github
to
contribute
to
various
force,
Asia
repository
with
the
help
of
a
faucet
Asia
mentor.
Everything
happened
online
via
github
and
the
communication
and
everything
on
guitar.
C
This
is
a
picture
taken
in
March
at
the
celebration
of
force,
Asia
ten
years
anniversary
said
our
annual
event
always
happen
in
March
in
Singapore's.
So
if
you
want
to
visitor
check
out
the
website
for
the
next
year
event
and
a
week
from
now
on,
Thursday
we're
gonna
organize
the
open
text
submit
here
in
Berlin
in
motion
lab.
So
if
you
are
around
later
know
the
website
open
text
submit
dotnet
I
think
that's
all
I
have.
A
B
Would
you
start
so
I
think
it's
about
what
we
said
before:
I've
masturbated,
relatability
and
understanding
and
I
think
that
with
people
who
understand
they're
taking
that
technically
able
it's
great
but
for
those
that
are
not,
it
is
something
that
we
have
to
translate
and
that's
why
looking
at
projects
and
giving
examples
and
storytelling
around
some
of
the
great
work
that
happens,
it's
really
important
moving
forward.
So
I
think
it
is
about
understanding,
relatability.
D
C
I
would
say,
sustainability
and
scale
up
our
check.
I
understand.
Any
of
us
here
contribute
to
open
source
project,
but
it's
always
the
question
how
you
can
actually
scale
up
the
development,
how
you
can
sustain
your
community.
It's
not
easy
to
get
individual
who
work
from
everywhere,
getting
together
in
one
community
and
follow
a
common
goal
or
common
practices,
and
it's
always
the
charge.
I
mean
challenging
for
us
at
Faust
Asia.
C
A
And
you
know
interesting
time
right
now,
with
our
announcement
today
about
github
sponsors
and
I.
Think
one
thing
that
we're
really
thinking
about
is:
how
does
it
apply
to
projects
like
this
that
have
some
social,
good
and
social
purpose
and
the
world
around
us
yeah?
My
next
question,
for
you
both
is:
what
are
the
opportunities?
What
opportunities
do
you
see
in
the
landscape
that
will
help
deepen
and
amplify
the
impact
of
your
work.
C
C
I
can
say
so
there's
a
lot
of
activities
in
open
source
for
insane
because
of
open
source.
We
can
learn
from
the
best
people,
the
brightest,
my
of
all
the
amazing
project
and
can
hope
you
know,
contribute
a
lot
in
the
ecosystem.
How
you
get
people
allow
people
to
to
work
on
projects
together
and
another
opportunity
in
the
open
source
world
AI
CD
to
a
company
cooperation
enterprises
started
to
embrace
open
source
a
lot
like
Microsoft
released.
So
many
amazing
tools
and
the
company
that
I
work
with
solando
is
a
fashion
store.
C
B
Catherine,
thank
you.
I
think
that
there's
huge
amounts
of
opportunity
and
I
think
that
when
you
look
at
C
from
a
policy
perspective,
I
could
just
touch
upon
that,
and
one
thing
that
maybe
can
so
sooo
boring,
but
actually
is
so
important,
is
in
public
procurement.
If
you
look
at
your
public
procurement,
if
you
can
get
open
source
as
just
the
standard
way
that
business
is
done,
then
the
opportunity
and
the
innovation,
the
creativity
you
can
get
from
that
will
be
I,
think
a
fantastic
opportunity,
but
more
than
that
I
think.
B
I
think
that
if
we
can
bring
build
that
bridge
between
the
tech
and
the
human
side
of
things,
we
were
able
to
be
more
relatable
it'll
be
able
to
be
delivered
better
and
I'll.
Be
a
force
for
good
to
fight
for
an
open
world
I
want
to
see
as
a
reality,
not
as
something
that
is
just
envisioned,
but
actually
the
reality
of
an
open.
A
vote
of
an
open
place
in
an
open
world.
B
C
Emphasize
what
Katherine
just
said,
I
would
like
to
call
out
for
the
organization
like
Open,
Knowledge,
Foundation,
Open,
Source,
Initiative
and
many
more
development
cooperation
that
try
to
educate
people
in
lay
open
sort,
adoption
and
policy,
so
Dre
work
by
the
way.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
work.
A
You
know
I'd
love
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
something
that
you
just
first
brought
up.
You've
talked
about
policy
and
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
idea
of
the
ecosystem
as
well.
So
as
we
think
about
different
pieces
of
that
ecosystem,
you
know
one
that
I'm
particularly
interested
is
nonprofits,
not
nongovernmental
organizations,
as
well
as
government
itself.
What
would
be
more
helpful
in
your
work
with
government?
You
talked
about
procurement
specifically,
but,
as
you
think
about
you
know,
maybe
how
you
can
start
and
talk
about
your
work
with
UNESCO.
A
C
I
think
the
advantage
of
the
UNESCO
is:
it
is
a
global
organization,
so
it
has
a
very
wide
reach
to
to
the
world
to
the
community
and
we
work
with
UNESCO
on
different
hackathons
I,
an
event
where
we
educate
people.
They
also
have
their
own
force
initiative
within
the
UN,
and
we've
been
working
with
them
life
for
the
past
four
years
and
help
them
to
bring
open-source
education
to
country
in
Southeast,
Asia,
yeah,
so
yeah.
So,
but
it's
definitely
a
benefit
show
for
also
from
community
to
work
with
this
global
organization.
B
Completely
I
think
use
the
whole
aspect
of
the
global
nature.
I
mean
I,
manage
a
team,
know
remotely
from
Mexico
City,
Singapore
and
and
when
I
say
that
does
from
my
study
in
Dunfermline
in
Scotland
and
people
are
kind
of
like
that's
quite
an
amazing
thing.
You
can
do
that.
You
can
do
that
because
the
technology
allows
your
know
able
to
do
that.
But
equally
we
a
community
over
15
years,
which
is
global.
We've
got
people
that
we
knew
across
the
world.
B
This
is
something
that
is
of
great
benefit
when
we're
putting
forward
our
vision
of
this
open
world.
Were
your
open
sources,
the
heart
of
that
as
well,
but
I
think
that
if
you're
asking
us
about,
where
does
this
go
to?
How
does
it
work?
Fundamentally,
it
is
this
thing
about:
how
do
we
make
it
relatable?
How
do
we
get
people
to
understand?
We've
had
developed
a
school
of
data
about
data
literacy,
but
it's
just
it's
people
that
say
come
to
our
website
the
people
who
would
come
anyway.
B
A
Great,
thank
you
for
those
perspectives.
One
other
question
I
have
is
the
role
of
companies
like
github
and
open
source
companies
like
github,
so
you
talked
a
little
bit
about,
though
advantages
we
see
is
that
the
ecosystem
is
maturing.
There's
more
resources
is
more
language,
but
we
still
have
far
to
go.
We
still
have
a
lot
to
go
in
terms
of
relatability
and
accessibility,
but
what
could
companies
like
github
do
to
help.
B
Keep
the
conversation
going,
I
mean
I
you're
doing
I
mean
this
is
a
fantastic
event.
You've
got
people,
I
mean
I,
got
to
know
github
because
of
coffee,
and
so
the
great
work
that
you
do
and
I
think
this
is
something
for
you.
You
have
a
role
to
play
whether
you
know
how
you
do.
That
is
another
question,
but
I
think
the
key
thing
is
how'd.
You
get
reach
beyond
your
key
kind
of
challenges.
How
we're
going
to
get
that
relate
ability
to
communities
that
are
non-traditional
to
what
you've
used
to
been
dealing
with
yeah.
C
D
C
There
over
there
yeah,
so
thank
you.
You
know
for
bringing
us
together,
I
think
we
have
like
nine
ten
people
here
today
who
come
from
our
community
and
I
also
say
that
you
constantly
listen
to
to
the
developers.
You
always
have
continual
conversation.
What
can
you
make
better
for
the
community
which
is
critical
and
if
I
talk
on
behalf
of
post,
Asia,
I
would
say.
Of
course
we
want
to
scale
up
our
project
like
wholly.
A
An
incredible
vision,
so
one
one
thing
that
you
both
talked
about
is
this
idea
of
global
communities
and
I.
Think
it's
something
that
we
think
a
lot
about.
As
we
see
the
ecosystem
maturing,
as
we
see
opportunities
that
incredible
visual
that
nacho
during
his
keynote
about
really
that
open
source
contributions
on
github
come
from.
Most
of
them
really
come
from
outside
of
the
US.
But
part
of
that
conversation
is
really
about
inclusion.
And
what
does
inclusion
really
look
like
in
a
global
from
a
global
context?
D
C
Say
something
so
inclusion,
so
it's
I
think
the
key
thing
to
build
it
to
building
an
inclusive
community,
a
to
Trier's,
a
very
opening
and
welcoming
culture
for
the
community,
and
this
is
not
easy
at
all.
We
have
people
come
from
various
background
in
some
time,
I
feel
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
by
some
of
the
reaction
of
maintained,
nerds
or
developers
online.
You
know
people
get
sometimes
impatient
when
new
joinee
are
getting
on
board.
Is
false.
Asia
we'd
really
try
our
best
to
to
inform
the
community.
A
lot
of
conflict
happened
because
of
misunderstanding.
C
People
are
not
aware
that
we
all
come
from
different
backgrounds
and
then
some
people
would
get
offended
when
they
just
because
we
don't
see
each
other
in
a
way
that
every
how
everyone
come
from
a
different
background.
So
we
constantly
communicate
this
message
to
our
community
and
try
to
work
together
with
many
different
organizations.
So
I
think
the
thing
that
we
did
very
well
during
the
past
video
we
develop
a
community.
At
the
same
time,
we
constantly
look
out
for
lesson
good
practices
and
assemble
for
organization
like
DPN
community
kinome
foundation.
C
Of
course
you
add
the
most
important
people,
but
in
order
to
be
an
open-source
or
to
be
a
project,
we
also
need
people
who
can't
promote
the
project,
who
can
tell
us
who
can
do
documentation
and
who
can
do
design
and
may
and
many
more
yeah,
and
this
is
something
that
we
want
to
focus
on.
So
we
try
to
tell
people
that
if
you
don't
have
the
technical
background
or
knowledge,
there's
so
many
different
ways
that
you
can
contribute
to
a
project
and
we
need
to
push
more
on
this
Eric's
and
I.
Believe.
B
B
What's
the
reality,
and
by
the
time
you
meet,
the
policy
is
already
whatever
many
years.
Okay,
and
this
is
going
to
be
moving
forward.
I
think
one
of
the
big
challenges
we
face
in
terms
of
inclusion
and
community
I
think
this
is
something
which
is
a
great
advantage
that
you
all
have
and
I
really
do
think
in
terms
of
open
knowledge
foundation
with
their
networking
community
out
there.
It's
something
I
want
to
tap
into
in
a
better
and
a
more
constructive
way.
The
Mobe
we've
done
that
in
the
past.
A
Interesting,
no,
absolutely
I
think
that
these
best
practices-
you
know
thinking
about
leveraging
those.
This
idea
of,
like
really
valuing
all
different
kinds
of
expertise,
being
very
intentional
about
community
building
I'd
love
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
community
next.
So
you
know
what
has
that
been
like
I
know:
you've
only
been
at
open
knowledge
foundation
for
a
short
while,
but
I'm
sure
you
understand
sort
of
the
history
of
community
building
over
the
past.
You
know
over
the
past
ten
years
of
the
organization,
the
you
know,
Hong
you've
done
this.
A
B
I
think
the
whole
thing
about
not
being
in
control
I
think
the
whole
thing
about
the
fact
that
the
community
goes
out
and
does
and
grows
and
changes
and
develops,
and
that's
the
creative
sense
of
it
and
I
also
think
I
mean
it's.
Just
I
did
a
my
first
week.
I
did
an
article
and
the
community
in
Brazil,
translated
into
Portuguese
or
something
and
I
was
like.
B
This
is
amazing,
and
it
was
just
this
sense
of
being
part
of
this
there's
a
bigger
world,
there's
bigger
picture
that
you
can
see,
and
people
relate
to
that
and
I
think
at
the
moment,
bit
frankly,
the
politics
been
so
paralyzed
and
broken.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
this
world
that
we
want
to
see,
and
we
can
do
that
through
some
of
the
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
terms
of
some
of
the
project
work
there
certainly
you've
been
doing,
but
also
just
in
terms
of
what
we
see
as
the
future.
B
C
So
the
lesson
that
I
learned
from
the
foster
community,
the
past
ten
years,
I
think
something
got
to
do
with
empowerment
yeah.
So
we
have
I'm
a
developer
of
here
who
used
to
be
the
student
and
then
become
to
be
mentor
of
the
neck
project
and
also
for
Asia
intern
that
kept
together
with
very
senior
developers
sitting
here.
So
that's.
C
Actually,
there
is
no
hierarchy
or
barriers
between
the
people
in
the
community
and
what
we
try
to
achieve
is
in
order
to
sustain
the
community
constantly
need
to
give
the
responsibility
for
the
younger
developer
for
for
the
younger
generation.
So
our
student,
our
interns,
move
on
to
become
mentor
after
some
years
and
they
tacked
on
the
responsibilities
to
change
younger
people.
C
At
the
moment
we
own
the
work
we
also
a
mentor
organization
for
google
code-in,
which
is
the
program
for
force
for
young
student
between
13
and
17
years
old
that
show
them
how
to
work
and
how
to
work,
open
sort
and
contribute
to
the
community
in
a
very
young
age.
So
I
think
another
key
is
start
with
education
yeah,
it's
never
too
early
or
too
late
to
learn
something.
Yes,
empowerment
and
education
are
some
that
I
believe
is
the
key
of
drawing
community.
A
C
I
always
tell
people
we
are
on
get
help.
We
also
have
a
community
on
Guiteau
there's,
so
many
projects
under
foster.
You
can
check
out
the
repository.
We
actually
constantly
need
help
and
I
also
pass
around
our
products.
If
you
have
any
ideas
to
help
improve
help
to
build
the
next
open
source,
closer,
no
assistant
or
have
to
be
a
solution
that
can
replace
event
price
or
you
can
start
to
you,
infirmed
write
for
your
own
events.
B
I
think
you
said
something
there
about,
can
ever
be
education
about
open-mindedness
and
I.
Think
that's
something!
That's
really
strong
and
you
know
being
open-minded
and
being
able
to
see
the
opportunity,
but
I
think
you
know
in
terms
of
sharing
ideas
of
being
there
being
out
there
being
able
to
communicate.
We've
got
different
ways
that
we
can
communicate
different,
different
and
certainly
different
communities,
but
certainly
ways
that
you
can
give
ideas
and
share
that
I.
B
Think,
though,
that
for
the
future,
I
think
that,
certainly
from
you
know
the
only
being
that
open
knowledge
for
14
weeks
or
it's
just
it's
a
start
and
it's
a
journey
but
I
think
for
for
us
it's
getting
back
to
what
we
fundamentally
are
and
that's
about
open
knowledge
and
somehow,
along
the
way
we
got
caught
up
and
the
data
to
be
which
is
part
of
our
DNA,
but
it.
But
equally
it's
about
knowledge
and
that's
what
you
said
as
well.
It's
knowledge
that
it's
important
as
we
move
forward.
B
It's
that
it's
somehow
we
kind
of
lost
the
whole
thing
about
knowledge,
society,
knowledge,
equality,
you
know,
is
somehow
lost
and
some
of
the
debates
that
we've
been
having.
We
need
to
grab
that
back
and
see
why
that's
important,
because
that
is
them
poem,
and
that
is
what
will
take
us
forward,
and
this
is
where
open
source
is
so
important,
so
I'm
excited
and
I'm
learning
and
it's
always
you've
always
learned
I
guarantee.
You
know
and
that's
the
thing
is
to
make
sure
people
always
have
that
opportunity
to
learn
so.
C
A
Happy
and
I
think
that
you
know
part
of
the
the
work
to
date
has
really
been
about
fostering
conversations
like
this,
and
and
how
do
we
start
to
build
a
narrative
that
open
source
is
more
than
just
about?
You
know,
freedom
of
expression,
it's
more
than
just
about
you
know
the
opportunity
for
developers
to
contribute
around.
You
know
you
know,
programming
languages,
that
there
is
this
bigger
purpose
towards
the
technology
that
many
Aversa
building
that
has
an
impact
in
the
real
world
around
now.
This
is
a
completely
new
idea
for
us.
A
I
think
that
we
are
starting
to
see
and
it
really
came
around
after.
We
started
to
see
this
incredible:
organic
evolution
of
activity
on
the
platform
of
individual
developers
who
were
developing-
or
you
know,
working
with
many
others
on
code
to
address
this
particular
issue
that
they
saw
in
their
community.
You
know
such
as
assistive
technology,
because
somebody
and
their
family
was
disabled.
For
example,
two
large
philanthropic
organizations
like
the
Gates
Foundation,
who
are
using
open-source
to
expand
financial
inclusion
for
the
world's
poor,
and
this
was
completely
organic.
A
It's
not
specific
outreach
that
we
did,
but
I
think
as
those
of
us
who
are
sitting
in
the
social
sector
are
starting
to
understand.
Technology
can
be
an
incredible
asset
for
social
change
and
open
source
has
a
really
incredible
role
to
play
in
expanding
technology.
For
that
use,
it
lends
itself
actually
really
really
well
to
addressing
these
issues
because
one
it
brings
in
diverse
perspectives
that
are
truly
global.
A
A
Is
this
incredible
creative
energy
that
you
know
developers
have
that
those
are
on
the
platform
have
and
in
a
way,
are
starting
to
harness
to
use
for
these
purposes,
and
so
what
we're
thinking
about
the
program
is
in
a
couple
of
ways,
I
think
one
more
narrative
building
work
like
this:
how
do
we
get
the
story
out
around
the
incredible
work?
That's
happening
on
the
platform:
it's
not
our
work.
It's
work
like
the
work,
but
that
both
of
your
organizations
and
your
community
are
doing
so.
A
How
do
we
amplify
that
message
and
what
role
do
we
have,
especially
as
sitting
at
the
center
of
this
ecosystem,
to
do
I
think
to
is
really
thinking
about
inclusion
in
open
source
and
I.
Think
that
you
know,
we
know
from
the
research
that
you
know
open
source
is
not
necessarily
as
diverse
as
you
know.
A
Technology
itself
is
not
necessarily
as
diverse
as
the
world
around
us
and
as
the
world
is
changing,
as
we
see
the
fact
that
future
developers
are
not
going
to
be
coming
from
the
same
places
that
they
come
from
today
that
we
need
to
encourage
this
burgeoning
and
emerging
communities
in
Southeast
Asia
in
Africa
and
Latin
America.
There's
an
important
critical
piece
of
this.
A
That
is,
how
do
we
make
open
source
a
place
that
is
inclusive
that
is
inviting,
and
that
also
can
leverage
this
incredible
talent
that
we
see
across
the
world
and
so
starting
to
think
about
that
is
really
critical
as
well
and
now
you'd
say.
The
third
prong
is
really
thinking
about
ways
in
which
we
can
deepen
the
capacity
of
nongovernmental
organizations
to
participate
it
over
an
open
source
and
that's
really
all
kinds
of
nonprofits
or
non-governmental
organizations
form
the
mom
and
pop
nonprofit.
A
That
is,
you,
know,
needs
to
use
an
open
source
volunteer
database
for
managing
their
volunteer
programs
to
large
philanthropic
organizations
who
are
starting
to
pour
in
an
incredible
amount
of
resources
into
open
source
that
we
can
leverage
and
partner
to
government.
I.
Think
also
that's
another
critical
piece
of
this
I
think
with
government.
A
The
open
source
movement
is
a
little
bit
further
ahead
than
with
nongovernmental
organizations,
but
they're
critical
part
because
of
we're
seeing
incredible
ways
where
government
is
using
open
source
to
help
citizens
connect
with
their
government
to
get
benefits,
etc,
and
so
those
are
sort
of
three
ways
in
which
we
hope
to
start
to
impact
open
source
in
this
way.
But
it's
very
nascent
and
I
think
today
is
very
one
of
the
first
steps
to
doing
that.
Yeah
great.
A
So
we
have
just
a
few
minutes
left
I.
Think
before
I
started
this
panel,
they
said
that
we
couldn't
do
any
audience
QA,
but
I'm
gonna
take
a
chance
cuz,
we
do
have
time
and
we
do
have
handheld
mics.
So
I
wanted
to
open
it
up
to
the
audience.
If
there
are
any
questions
that
you
may
have
of
the
panelists.
B
E
C
Well,
I
think
it's
a
great
platform,
so
very
so
a
new
platform
that
foster
grimas
education
and
by
chance
at
love
for
Asia
some
wealth.
We
just
announced
the
force
Asia
Academy
with
Condor
offer
online
courses
that
teach
people
more
on
open
source.
So
when
I
study
in
Vietnam
and
I
understand
that
they
actually
don't
teach
the
the
idea
about
open
source
in
school,
of
course,
you
learn
how
to
write
higher
and
you
learn
different
programming
languages.
C
But
there
is
not
a
particular
course
that
that
teach
you
how
to
behave
or
high
in
a
community
or
how
to
contribute
the
community
but
but
I
totally.
If
you
asked
about
my
opinion
about
Khan
Academy
I
used
to
think
a
few
courses,
there
I
think
that
any
more
and
more
people,
so
that
is
a
platform
that
allow
people
from
everywhere
can
share
the
knowledge
in
London
remotely
it
is
and
Ray.
It
is
a
ray
initiative.
No.
B
Think,
that's
that's
quite
a
hard
one.
Unless
you
look
in
specific
project,
I
think
that
more
gen
and
the
general
basis
of
it
I
just
think
it's
about
explaining
what
it
actually
is,
what
it
means.
What
it,
what
why?
Why
would?
Why
would
someone
be
interested
and
I
keep
thinking
about?
Somebody
told
me
a
story
about
a
fridge
and
about
the
fact
that
you
know
we
buy
a
smart
fridge.
B
You
buy
a
the
physical
fridge,
but
the
software
in
the
fridge
is
not
yours,
but
if
there's
open
source,
it
would
be
yours
and
there's
something
about
owning
something
but
not
owning
something
that
actually
brings
value,
and
this
is
going
to
be
more
and
more
of
a
debate.
So
I
just
I
threw
the
French
thing
out
to
use.
It
was
not
having
a
conversation
with
a
foster
carer
and
she
got
it
by
the
fridge
example
and
I
thought.
C
Agree
with
you,
I
think
this
is
a
really
hard
question
and
people
open
it.
Okay,
so
you
do
open
source
what
kind
of
social
problem
or
challenge
that
you
have
to
improve.
What
area
in
the
in
the
society
that
you
actually
have
an
impact,
so
I
think
open
source
is
like
a
tool.
So
we're
not
talking
about
the
specific
problem,
but
this
is
the
basic
ability
that
people
have
the
resources
and
knowledge
to
fix
any
problem
that
I
have
implies.
It
depends
on
the
community
and
the
people
decide
for
themselves.
C
A
Would
agree
so
anyway,
we
are
out
of
time
and
I
hope
they
aren't
any
burning
questions
but
you're
welcome
to
you
know
perch
any
one
of
us
and
our
panelists
before
we
end,
but
incredible
conversation
about
accessibility.
The
importance
have
been
able
to
build
communities
in
ways
that
really
harness
the
global
nature
of
open
source
and
ways
in
which
we
can
really
bring
social
sector
organizations
like
NGOs
as
well
as
government
into
the
fold.
So
thank
you
both
for
joining
us
today.