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With Linda Raftree, Alexandra Grigore, Clayton Sims, and Mike Endale
Moderated by Mala Kumar
GitHub Satellite: A community connected by code
On May 6th, we threw a free virtual event featuring developers working together on the world’s software, announcements from the GitHub team, and inspiring performances by artists who code.
More information: https://githubsatellite.com
Schedule: https://githubsatellite.com/schedule/
A
So
we
have
an
awesome
session
coming
up
open
source
for
good
Cobin
19
pandemic
responses.
This
panel
is
gonna,
discuss
what
we've
learned
from
other
humanitarian
crisis
when
it
comes
to
using
open
source
solutions,
we're
going
to
delve
deeper
into
each
solutions
con
carrot
and
hear
from
a
group
that
utilized
Comcare
to
forge
open
source
solutions
for
african
code.
19
response
toolkit
I'm
really
excited
to
have
Mollica
Mark
Clayton,
sim
Alexander,
Gregor,
Mike,
andele
and
Linda
Raftery
joining
us.
For
this
exciting
conversation.
B
Hi
thanks
so
much
Dana
Martin.
Can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay,
oh
I,
guess
I'll.
Take
that
as
a
yes
welcome
everyone
to
the
open
source
for
good
Cova
19
pandemic
responses
panel.
So
my
name
is
mala
and
I'm
a
program
manager
here
at
github
on
our
social
impact
team
I
run
a
program
called
open
source
for
good.
Some
of
you
might
be
familiar,
some
of
you
less,
oh,
and
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
familiar,
the
broad
remit
of
open
source
for
good
is
to
essentially
make
open
source
work
better
for
humanity.
B
It's
a
bit
of
a
lofty
goal,
but
the
way
that
we
tend
to
approach.
That
is
by
working
with
what
we
call
the
social
sector,
so
any
organization,
whether
it's
for-profit
or
nonprofit,
international
or
US
domestic
facing
we
work
with
those
organs
organizations
to
figure
out
how
we
can
make
open
source
more
accessible,
more
relatable
and
easier
to
access
for
appropriate
solutions
and
the
in
the
social
sector.
B
I'm
really
happy
that,
after
a
year
of
research,
last
month
we
published
our
report
open
source
software
in
the
social
sector,
which
examines
the
barriers,
successes
and
opportunities
at
the
intersection
of
open
source
and
the
social
sector.
You
can
access
the
report
for
free,
don't
need
to
give
any
information.
You
can
access
the
report
and
you
can
learn
more
about
the
github
social
impact
team
at
social
impact.
Github
calm.
B
The
co-founder
of
the
africa
kovat
19
response
toolkit
and
alexander
grigory
who's.
The
chief
product
officer
of
sim
prince
welcome
to
the
panelists,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
stay
now.
Obviously,
Cova
19
has
affected
pretty
much
every
aspect
of
our
life
and
it's
it's
personal,
it's
emotional
and
at
times
it's
just
flat-out
overwhelming.
B
The
first
category
is
what
we
call
societal
societal
has
everything
to
do
with
mental
health
of
both
individuals
and
populations.
It
has
to
do
with
the
incredibly
unfortunate
rise
in
domestic
and
child
abuse.
That's
as
a
result
of
shelter
and
place
orders
worldwide.
It
also
has
to
do
with
the
also
incredible
incredibly
unfortunate
rise
in
global
hunger,
as
unemployment
goes
up
and
as
supply
chains
are
affected
are
affecting
through
aid
and
food
assistance
across
the
world,
and
then
of
course,
societal
also
has
to
do
with
this
distance
learning.
B
B
Another
category
is
economic
unemployment
in
the
United
States
is
at
one
of
the
all-time
highs
in
the
history
of
our
country.
We
have
currently
about
30
million
cases
of
unemployment
that
have
been
reported
and
then
worldwide
we're
seeing
spikes
in
unemployment,
especially
in
the
informal
sectors
throughout
sub-saharan
Africa,
South,
Asia
and
Latin
America,
and
unemployment
also
ties
in
directly
to
housing.
B
B
Interestingly
enough
open
source
actually
has
a
long
history
with
global
Public
Health
and
we're
proud
of
github
that
we
play
a
central
role
in
that
one
example
is
the
District
Health
Information
survey,
which
is
also
known
as
DHI
s2,
which
has
been
deployed
to
sixty-seven
low
and
middle-income
countries,
making
it
the
largest
health
management
information
system
in
the
world.
It's
an
open-source
tool,
that's
hosted
on
github,
it's
incredibly
pervasive
across
the
public
health
ecosystem.
C
Mala
thanks
everybody
for
coming
to
our
session
today,
I'm
glad
to
be
here
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
how
we
work
on
technology
in
the
social
sector.
My
work
is,
is
really
making
sure
that
that
technology
is
bringing
positive
impacts
in
and
making
sure
it's
not
bringing
a
negative
impacts
or
causing
harm
to
vulnerable
people.
So
I'm
really
kind
of
like
an
anthropologist
of
technology,
and
that's
really
where
I
work.
C
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
today
about
three
questions
that
we
usually
ask
when
we're
trying
to
bring
check
in
during
a
crisis
one:
does
it
solve
a
real
problem?
Two:
does
it
link
to
the
wider
ecosystem
and
three?
What
is
the
potential
for
harm
now
and
later?
So,
if
we
go
to
the
first
question,
does
it
solve
a
real
problem
here
we
want
to
think
about.
What's
the
research
that
we've
done,
do
we
understand
the
context?
Have
we
talked
to
other
people?
C
Do
we
know
that
the
people
that
we
are
supposed
to
be,
you
know
trying
to
help?
Are
we
actually
helping
them?
Do
we
know
what
they
need,
what
they
want,
how
they
hardly
work,
what
their
challenges
are.
We
want
to
think
about
whether
technology
is
actually
a
solution.
Sometimes
we
try
to
bring
technology
in
and
it's
actually
not
going
to
solve
a
problem,
because
the
problem
is
not
something
that
technology
can
solve.
It
might
be
a
political
problem,
it
might
be
a
problem
with
infrastructure
might
be
a
problem
of
funding
or
biased
discrimination.
C
There
are
all
kinds
of
problems
that
that
sometimes
technology
actually
contributes
to
rather
than
solving,
and
then
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
tech
is
appropriate
for
the
place
that
we're
working
in
during
that
crisis.
In
Haiti,
we
had
people
that
were
building
iPhone
applications
for
people
in
Haiti,
and
we
knew
that
most
people
who
were
working,
who
were
living
in
Haiti
and
really
affected
by
the
we're
using
basic
Nokia
phones.
So
things
people
were
building
we're
completely
irrelevant
to
the
the
people
that
they
were
thinking.
They
were
trying
to
help.
C
The
second
one
is
around
linking
to
the
wider
ecosystem,
and
here
we
really
want
to
think
about.
What's
already
there,
if
you're
working
in
tech,
you
know
that
there's
a
tech
ecosystem,
that's
interesting
to
be
interoperable,
that
you
probably
want
to
feed
into.
But
what
about
all
the
other
ecosystems
that
are
there?
There
are
data
systems.
There
are
health
systems,
social
systems,
economic
systems
that
we
want
to
try
to
build
around
and
build
in,
so
that
we're
not
creating
parallel
systems.
C
We
also
want
to
build
systems
that
people
already
are
using
not
build
them
but
add
on
to
systems
that
people
are
already
using
so
that
there's
greater
up
to
so
you
don't
want
to
kind
of
come
in
and
try
to
disrupt
everything,
everything's
already
been
quite
disrupted
because
you're
in
a
crisis
situation.
So
what
you
want
to
do
is
figure
out
what
do
people
already
know?
What
are
they
already
comfortable
with,
and
how
can
you
build
that
and
make
that
work
for
them
better,
maybe
by
adding
a
small
feature
or
tweaks,
or
something
like
that?
C
Of
course,
you
want
to
make
sure
that
what
you're
doing
is
illegal,
that's
just
kind
of
across
the
board,
and
the
last
one
that
I
want
to
talk
about.
Is
this
potential
for
harm?
So
you
know
here:
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
conducting
risk
benefits,
harms
assessments
a
lot
of
times
we
we
conduct
risk
assessments
and
think
about
the
risk
to
ourselves
in
our
company.
C
We
also
want
to
be
thinking
about
the
risk
to
the
people
that
were
working
with
and
making
sure
that
it's
not
the
poorest
people
or
the
most
vulnerable
people
who
are
taking
on
the
majority
of
the
risk.
We've
been
hearing
a
lot
about
that,
and
now,
with
coded
and
some
of
the
overreaches
and
privacy,
we
want
to
think
about
short
and
long
term
impacts
as
well.
C
Not
just
fixing
things
right
now,
but
thinking
about
what
could
be
the
potential
impacts
of
those
fixes
in
the
long
term,
you
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
involved
users
or
stakeholders
in
those
risks
benefits
harms
assessments
to
make
sure
that
we're
hearing
from
them
about
what
potential
dangers
or
risks
that
they
might
see
are,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
setting
up
data
governance
systems
that
can
make
sure
that
we're
being
responsible
and
that
there's
transparency
and
accountability
in
the
way
that
we're
working.
So
those
are
just.
You
know
three
questions.
D
D
Kovin
19,
it's
been
one
of
the
craziest
of
my
career,
but
really
not
for
the
reasons
that
I
expected
and
to
explain
why,
on
the
next
slide,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
guys
a
story
and
that
story
starts
in
Silicon
Valley,
which
is
a
place
that,
in
your
mind,
right
reason,
which
is
like
vending
machines,
full
of
Apple
products
or
obnoxious
bikes.
The
Googlers
used
for
group
meetings.
Silicon
Valley
is
the
epicenter
of
technology
in
the
United
States
and
unfortunately,
on
the
next
slide.
D
You
can
see
that
earlier
this
year
it
was
the
epicenter
of
a
different
kind.
It
was
the
site
of
one
of
the
first
outbreaks
of
Cogan
19
on
the
u.s.
west
coast
on
March
10th,
ten
percent
of
the
known
coronavirus
cases
in
the
US
for
located
in
Silicon
Valley,
now
fitting
to
their
identity.
The
valley
was
also
early
using
technology
to
go
on
the
offensive
against
Cove
in
nineteen
on
April
fifteenth
Silicon
Valley
was
the
first
major
US
city
to
launch
full-contact
racing
efforts
and,
in
effect,
torture
all
the
virus
in
their
population.
D
D
Have
it
March
for
one
an
important
case
that
entered
the
country
two
days
earlier
in
strat,
global
health
services
used
calm
care
to
build
that
contact
tracing
system
in
24
hours,
and
the
state
was
already
piling
on
rolling
it
out
to
the
primary
and
secondary
health
care
systems
48
hours
later.
This
is
a
really
representative
of
our
experience,
working
in
low
and
middle
income
countries
and
responding
to
cope
in
nineteen,
the
government
of
Sierra
Leone.
They
were
recruiting
different
digital
tools
for
copa90
mother's,
a
single
Keith
in
the
country.
D
The
most
unexpected
part
of
the
year
for
me
has
been
that
most
of
my
time
hasn't
been
spent,
facilitating
responses
in
Africa
or
Asia
or
most
our
fixed
place,
since
a
lot
of
those
teams
are
using
Comcare
something
else
in
their
own
autonomously
said.
Most
of
my
time
has
been
spent
hoping
teams
in
the
u.s.
understand
and
adopt
that
same
rapid
approach.
D
Now
the
next
slide
before
explaining
that
tools,
these
teams
are
using
for
contact
tracing
it'll,
be
helpful
to
understand
the
underlying
technology
they're
built
on
so
conker
is
an
open-source
no
code
and
user
programming
environment
lets
organizations
build,
deploy
and
maintain
applications
that
work
on
browsers
or
offline
on
mobile
devices,
without
meaning
programmers.
We've
built
this
to
make
high
complexity
apps
available
to
organizations
who
otherwise
wouldn't
have
the
resources
to
deploy
or
maintain
custom
software.
This
is
virtually
conquer,
the
largest
M
health
app
platform
in
the
world.
D
Five
hundred
million
people
are
registered
for
services
in
a
conquer
app,
that's
just
under
7
percent
of
the
global
population.
Now,
on
the
next
slide,
you
can
see
an
example
one
of
these
apps.
This
is
a
quick
diagram
that
lays
out
the
workflow
for
a
template,
application
that
we
released
in
March
and
then
encodes,
the
data
collection
decision,
support
and
long-term
tracking
from
the
WTO's
contact,
tracing
and
monitoring
protocol
and
everything
you
see
on
the
screen
here.
D
It
was
built
in
Comcare
the
menus,
the
data
models,
the
logic
and
the
power
of
that
is
that
organizations
are
able
to
import
this
application.
Template
but
then
further
customize,
the
app
for
their
context,
starting
with
95%
of
the
problem
already
solved,
and
this
template
only
took
us
about
a
week
to
build
and
come
care,
but
it
was
downloaded
by
500
organizations
in
the
first
24
hours
after
its
release.
Saving
500
collective
weeks
of
response
time
is
really
valuable
in
an
epidemic.
D
So
the
last
slide
here
we
never
actually
designed
to
conquer
specific
design
tools
or
share
them
for
outbreak
response,
but
back
in
2014,
Columbia
University
used
Comcare
to
build
the
deploy
contact,
tracing
tools
for
Sierra,
Leone's
Ebola
outbreak
and
there
she
had
an
app
on
our
exchange
and
it
was
adopted
by
teams
all
across
the
West
Africa
region
to
fight
the
disease.
Once
we
understood
the
value
of
our
tools.
D
In
that
context,
we
eventually
took
an
active
role
in
helping
build
and
deploy
templates
for
every
phase
of
the
disease
contact
tracing,
but
things
like
protocols
for
decommissioning,
emergency
hospitals
or
providing
services
all
neural
children
who
became
orphans
due
to
the
deadly
outbreak.
This
is
something
we're
building
on
much
more
proactively
for
copa90
when
we
realized
this
isn't
going
to
be
a
free
month
response,
we've
built
seven
templates
to
facilitate
health
systems,
responding
to
different
aspects
of
the
impact
of
coronavirus
in
the
spirit
of
our
open
source
routes.
D
We're
also
excited
to
help
the
community
to
deploy
and
show
their
own
templates
as
well
since
succeeding
in
controlling
Koba
19.
It's
going
to
take
the
strengths
of
every
member
of
the
global
development
community,
not
just
one
and
that's
something
that
Mike's
going
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
with
his
work
on
the
Africa
covin
19
response
toolkit.
So
do
you
like.
E
This
is
two
days
after
the
eto
peon
data
been
government
announced
that
they
confirmed
two
cases
and
a
hacker
that
I
am
just
sent
the
tweets
asking
for
other
hackers
to
come
together
and
build
a
set
of
tools
to
help
what
we
found
out
in
the
next
slide.
What
we
found
out
was
about.
Sixteen
hundred
people
showed
up
to
help.
E
These
are
doctors,
designers,
project
managers,
everybody
jumped
in
to
help
asking
how
they
can
help
in
the
early
insight
that
we
had
is
what
Clayton
mentioned,
and
what
Linda
also
talked
about,
which
is
building
on
top
of
existing
ecosystem,
was
a
single,
most
important
thing
that
anybody
can
do
since
we
are
racing
against
time,
so
these
groups
came
together.
These
are
passionate
a
group
of
people
who
came
and
focused
on
delivery.
E
More
than
anything
and
where,
as
a
result,
we
are
building
a
set
of
10
products,
all
of
them
hosted
an
open
source
from
github
and
they
provide
a
turnkey
solution
to
actually
run
quickly
to
respond
to
covet
90,
but
our
model
is
important.
At
the
beginning
of
this
journey,
we
set
a
very
tactful
goal
of
speed
over
perfection.
This
was
a
single
important
thing
that
we
did,
as
we
are
racing
against
time
and
allowing
these
local
civic
organizations
to
be
able
to
respond.
E
To
fact,
the
reason
most
important
so
in
the
next
slide,
we'll
show
you
how
we
fit
everything
together
and,
as
you
know,
no
single
product
is
gonna
solve
everything.
So
whenever
that
we
saw
a
gap
we
jumped
in
and
one
of
the
ten
product
that
we're
building
is
addressing
those
specific
cases.
So
if
you
have
a
Comcare
idea,
tries
to
perfect
well
and
good,
you
should
run
with
it
and
whenever
you
have
gaps
in
your
ecosystem,
that's
where
the
toolkit
is
gonna.
Be
super
helpful
to
you.
The
point
is,
as
you
can
see
on.
F
Hi
everyone
I'm
Alexandra,
the
CTO
confounder
of
sim
prints,
a
non
profit
company
from
Cambridge
UK,
building
tech
tools
for
international
development,
as
we
heard
from
Megan
Clayton.
Digital
tools
are
critical
for
global
health
and
they
become
exponentially
more
important
in
a
global
pandemic.
I
will
talk
about
one
challenge
that
many
programs
that
are
implementing
these
tools
are
facing
and
it
has
to
do
with
the
lack
of
unique
patient
identifiers
next
slide
please.
F
So
the
problem
is
that
in
many
developing
countries
there
are
no
robust
national
IT
systems
and
service
providers
can't
rely
on
traditional
ID
methods
like
national
ID
cards
or
birth
certificates,
Social
Security
numbers
and
so
on.
So
the
consequence
is
that
ensuring
that
the
right
services
are
being
delivered
to
the
right
people
becomes
extremely
difficult.
So
for
the
past
five
years
at
sim
prints,
we
have
built
biometric
tools
that
are
helping
health
care
workers
around
the
world,
deliver
better
services.
F
We
integrated
these
tools
with
most
open
source
data
platforms,
like
the
ones
mentioned
by
Megan
Clayton,
to
provide
unique
identifiers
based
on
fingerprint
or
face
recognition
in
a
secure
way,
while
maintaining
the
privacy
of
the
individual.
So
far,
we
deployed
in
12
countries
working
with
NGOs
and
governments
across
sub-saharan
Africa
and
South
Asia,
enrolling
and
identifying
more
than
400,000
patients
and
improve
the
delivery
of
healthcare
of
healthcare
services.
F
In
the
next
slide,
we
can
see
that
the
need
of
a
reliable
ID
in
crisis
response
has
been
recognized
by
the
World
Bank
as
a
lesson
learned
from
the
Ebola
epidemic.
Digital
IDs,
based
on
biometrics
when
implemented,
have
been
critical
for
contact
tracing
as
well
as
distribution
and
care
of
cash
and
aid,
basically
without
being
able
to
track
an
individual
and
the
treatment
they
receive.
It's
really
difficult
to
contain
the
spread
of
the
disease,
as
well
as
allocating
resources
effectively,
especially
when
those
resources
are
scarce.
F
Next
slide,
we've
been
working
on
a
face
recognition
solution,
as
specifically
for
coverage
that
can
be
plugged
into
the
coffee
response,
apps
linking
patients
with
their
records
through
a
unique
ID
that
is
randomly
generated
and
linked
with
their
biometrics.
The
Robo
metric
data
is
then
deleted
for
security
reasons
and
the
hash
template
is
further
used
for
matching
and
there
are
multiple
use
cases
for
biometrics.
F
In
this
response,
we're
now
working
with
various
partners
to
implement
the
solution,
particularly
for
contact
tracing
and
ensuring
continuity
of
follow-up,
as
well
as
preparing
ourselves
for
a
future
vaccine
distribution
where
accurate
identification
will
be
crucial
to
ensure
nobody
is
missed
and
on
the
right
hand,
side.
You
can
see
a
demo
of
the
concur
contact.
Tracing
application.
Clayton
has
shown
earlier
with
the
integrated
face
biometrics
to
provide
this
unique
patient
identifier
and,
lastly,
you
might
wonder
what
the
dissolution
is.
Open-Source
as
well
next
slide.
F
Please,
and
the
answer
is
not
yet
while
we
started
same
prints
with
this
vision
in
mind,
doing
open
source
right
is
not
easy
and
I.
Think
Mike
and
Clayton
can
confirm
this.
First
of
all,
there
are
no
open
source
digital
ID
platforms
out
there
used
for
healthcare
interventions
in
particular,
so
there
are
not
good
examples
for
us
to
learn
from
and
we're
very,
very
keen
to
be
pioneers
in
this
space,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we
are
doing
it
properly.
F
Specifically,
as
biometrics
is
a
sensitive
topic
where
data
protection
and
privacy
are
incredibly
important,
we
need
to
be
careful
and
think.
How
can
we
make
sure
that
this
solution
will
not
be
used
for
harm?
How
can
we
limit
the
scope
of
use
for
global
development
and
keep
maintaining
the
high
privacy
standards
we
have
in
our
projects,
such
as
running
community
sensitization
campaigns
using
informed
consent
adhering
to
TTP
our
regulations,
particularly
as
the
context
that
we're
working
in
deal
with
very
vulnerable
populations
and,
lastly,
doing
open
source
properly
requires
significant
investment?
F
We
need
a
dedicated
team,
we
need
to
build
a
community
and
maintain
it
and
finding
the
right
funding
as
a
young
nonprofit
working
in
the
global
health
space
is
challenging.
If
you
have
any
ideas
about
how
an
open
source
IP
platforms
could
work
specifically
in
the
technology
for
development
Li's,
getting
that
Geum,
I'd
love
to
brainstorm
and
collaborate
over
to
you
more.
B
Great
thanks
so
much
Alexandra
and
thanks
so
much
to
all
our
panelists
I've
had
the
privilege
of
working
in
global
health
across
sub-saharan
Africa
for
quite
a
while
and
I
have
to
say
working
with
you
all
has
been
wonderful
and
I've
learned
so
much
about
how
we
should
approach
Copa,
19,
pandemic
responses,
I'm
sure
our
audience
members.
Some
of
you
might
be
a
bit
overwhelmed
with
the
information,
and
some
of
you
are
probably
ready
to
jump
in
and
get
started
on
helping.
B
So
please
do
take
a
screenshot
of
the
slide
and
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
our
panelists
through
Twitter,
on
github
and
on
LinkedIn.
So
in
just
about
five
minutes,
we're
gonna
be
moving
over
to
the
discussion
thread,
but
I
wanted
to
kick
off
the
Q&A
here
on
on
our
with
our
panel
and
I'll.
Ask
the
question
that
I'm
sure
is
burning
in
every
audience
members
mind,
which
is:
how
do
I
get
involved?
Mike
and
Alex?
Can
you
kick
us
off?
What
are
some
ways
that
our
github
community
can
get
involved?.
E
E
You
know
create
a
PR
one
of
the
things
that
we're
really
proud
of
with
the
Africa
cover-to-cover
19
response
toolkit
is
it's
available
individually
or
it
can
be
used
as
a
whole,
and
my
hope
is
and
our
that
the
teams
hope
is
to
actually
the
adoption
within
African
countries,
especially
the
ones
they
needed.
The
most
would
use
it
immediately
by
just
grabbing
forking
it
directly
from
our
github.
That
would
be
the
best
place
to
start.
B
Yeah,
absolutely
so,
for
those
audience
members
who
are
driving
in
from
Africa
in
contact
with
Mike
or
get
in
contact
with
me
and
I'll
get
you
in
contact
with
Mike,
because
what
Mike
is
designing
is
really
a
turnkey
solution
that
can
be
implemented
all
throughout
the
continent.
Alex.
What
are
some
ways
that
the
github
community
can
get
involved
with
your
work
over
at
San,
Prince
I.
F
Think
for
us
there
are
two
ways:
one.
We
are
always
looking
for
volunteers
to
help
us
with
integrations.
There
are
a
lot
of
open-source
platforms
out
there
and
we
are
building
integrations
with
many
of
them,
but
there's
still
some
left,
particularly
some
tools
that
are
used
for
the
kovat
response,
so
we
are
currently
working
with
the
range
of
volunteers
that
help
us
with
integration.
So
if
you
are
an
Android
developer
in
particular,
would
love
to
hear
from
you
and
please
get
in
touch
directly
with
me
and
the
second
one
is
around
open
source
and
brainstorming.
F
B
Great
thanks
so
for
Clayton
and
Linda.
Another
question
that
I
know
a
lot
of
our
audience.
Members
want
to
know
is
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
are
working
really
well
in
the
open
source
for
good
space
when
it
comes
to
coping
19
pandemic
responses
and
what
are
some
things
that
we
should
be
improving.
Clayton.
D
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
and
I
think
we
mentioned
a
little
bit
in
the
talk.
What
I
think
that's
working
really
well
is
seeing
tools
that
have
existing
footprints,
we're
using
that
infrastructure.
You
know
you
mentioned
DHS
two
a
couple
times
at
the
talk,
I
mean
definitely
countries
where
their
existing
installations
of
DHS,
2
and
they're
reusing
it
and
using
the
modules
that
they're
being
distributed
from
that
team,
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
traction
there
in
terms
of
teams
that
are
moving
really
quickly
and
responding
to
the
virus.
D
You
know
immediately,
which
is
what
we
love
to
see
out
of
the
gate.
Unfortunately,
something
I'm
also
seeing
is
a
lot
of
teams
who
are
kind
of
jumping
in
to
Coba
19
response,
who
kind
of
don't
have
any
history
of
success
of
scale
and
missing.
Just
a
big.
The
gap
is
between
an
MVP
and
mission-critical.
In
this
context
you
know
especially
people
who
are
kind
of
coming
in
with
who
don't
have
that
background
in
public
health
and
don't
know
hard
that
can
be
and
I
think
in
our
in
our
discipline.
D
There's
a
lot
of
not
invented
here
syndrome.
You
know
people
jump
into
digital
developer
for
the
first
time
and
they
they
think
they
can
build
tools
that
kind
of
feel
more
mature
to
a
Western,
high
tech,
developer
and
kind
of
ignore
the
last
15
20
years
of
lessons
that
would
have
gone
into
the
field.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
we
could
use
a
lot
more
help
with
is
just
coordinating
how
we
can
get
people
involved
and
upskill
them
and
give
them
that
context.
Yeah.
B
Absolutely
I
think
it's
something
that's
something
that
I
can
relate
to
as
a
UX
designer
who's
primarily
worked
for
the
UI.
You
can
make
it
really
pretty
UI.
You
can
make
something:
that's
so
amazingly
appropriate
for
the
United
States
and
then
try
to
deploy
it
and
sub-saharan
Africa
and
you'll
get
a
bunch
of
like
stairs
I
think
it
was
an
important
lesson
learned,
so
both
build
off
of
what's
already
there
and
make
sure
your
context
appropriate,
and
on
that
note
so
Linda
you
run
something
called
tech
salon.
B
C
I'll
be
great,
so
we
you
know,
we
used
to
do
tech
salons
in
person
face
to
face
sort
of
small
conversations
that
we
had
in
the
same
room.
We
didn't
use
tech
for
the
tech
salon
because
we
wanted
a
real,
honest,
open
conversation.
I
was
kind
of
off
the
record,
but
we've
since
moved
to
digital,
and
so
we've
been
running
them.
C
You
know
on
digital
platforms
and
getting
a
lot
more
people
in
the
room
and
we've
been
focusing
the
recent
ones
really
on
the
tech
sector,
so
the
first
salon
was
about
you
know:
I
pulled
a
lot
of
the
lessons
for
my
talk
today.
From
the
first
alone,
we
listen
to
a
bunch
of
folks
that
had
been
working
in
the
Ebola
crisis
and
they
kind
of
brought
together
their
direct
experience
to
their
research.
What
were
the
tech
tools
that
workmen
didn't
work
in
the
Ebola
crisis?
C
We
did
one
after
that
around
how
communities
refugee
communities
are
adapting
and
using
and
what
they
need
in
terms
of
technology
and
what
local
organizations
are
facing
in
terms
of
tech
challenges.
Then
we
did
one
last
week
or
a
data
privacy
and
ethics
and
the
one
that's
coming
up,
which
is
going
to
feature
our
host
Amala
here
is
gonna,
be
around
exactly
that
topic
of.
How
can
you
volunteer
your
time
and
your
skills
during
the
chloe
crisis?
C
B
All
right
well,
thank
you
again
to
all
our
panelists
and
thank
you
to
our
audience
for
tuning
in.
There
is
infinite
amount
of
work
to
be
done
in
the
next
few
years
and
I'm
so
proud
of
that
here,
at
github
were
two
initiative
and
we're
kicking
off
some
really
important
initiatives
and
highlighting
the
work
that's
already
there.
So
please
stay
in
contact
jump
over
to
the
discussion
thread
at
github.com,
and
we
will
speak
to
you
soon.
Thanks.